Unlocking Consciousness with Ayahuasca | Drew Bankey DSH #1141

Of whatever that passed away, a pet, family, friend, whatever, or a parent, that energy is still there.

And you can talk to it with a faith that it's really there.

And I think people really need to take faith and it's there.

Wow, that's deep.

So even pets, you think?

Dogs, cats?

I think anything.

All right, guys, we got Drew in today.

We are in Vegas.

First time here in a while for you, right?

Yeah, it's been a while.

You know, I used to do trade shows in a prior life.

I was

a sales rep for a distribution company for head shops and stuff.

So I used to come here for trade shows a lot.

But yeah, this is my first time coming here for podcasts.

So thanks for having me, brother.

Absolutely.

It's cool to see you get acquainted with your former veteran of 17 years.

Yeah, you know, seeing him, it's been literally since we were in Iraq since the last time I saw him.

Wow.

You know,

the unit that I started off my second deployment in 2007 in Ramadi, Ambar province,

I was a cult team leader.

He was

my supervisor, so he was above me.

And

our unit kind of started breaking up after a while and going to do different missions.

And they were taking people from our unit and filling different spots.

So yeah, last time I saw him was in Iraq until last night.

So it was pretty funny.

Crazy.

Yeah.

Did you have a spiritual side to you back then when you were serving?

There was, but I didn't know about it.

You know, it's always, yeah.

I think the whisper, what I talk about, like the whisper of the universe has always been there, but you know, I haven't been able to listen to, you know, until I drank ayahuasca in 2016.

So

yeah, we'll dive into that because you had all this trauma from serving and your childhood trauma.

And then in 2016, you take ayahuasca.

Yeah.

So,

you know, I was adopted at birth.

So literally, I've, from birth, I've been a different, I've been through a constant transformation transformation that's been happening ever since day one.

So I was Joshua Brandon Robinson for the first five days of my life, and then I was Andrew Roy Banke after that.

So from day one, it's always been, you know, a transformation into something like evolution.

So

and that's been the path, especially, you know, over the past couple of years has been acceleration of all that.

Absolutely.

So did you have a lot of identity issues growing up?

I wouldn't say that because I didn't know about me being adopted until I turned, almost turned 18.

Whoa, that's late.

Yeah, and that was a big shocker, you know, and that was my first like big trauma.

You know, a lot made me distrust a lot of people.

I had abandonment issues.

And those were my first

traumas that started to form, you know, my identity and my process here.

Yeah.

What do you think the right approach to adoption is?

Like, do you think you should let the kids know at an early age?

I think there's no template, you know, case by case.

It's case by case.

I think, you know, looking back, definitely at the time when I found out it was very hurtful, everybody, I was hurtful on all sides, you know, my adopted side, my biological side, everybody.

But now, you know,

getting older and going through the process, you see, especially being a parent now, you know, I have my oldest child is 21 and I have an 18 month old.

So I have four children all together.

And having children is starting to make sense of why things happen.

You know, they were doing, they made the best decisions at the time, what they thought were the best.

And I think that's always true generally for most parents.

Yeah, I love that.

Let's talk about this ayahuasca journey now.

Let's do it.

2016.

You said, we were talking out there.

You said the first night was really rough, right?

Yeah.

So

rewind a little bit to 2014, I had a suicide attempt.

And I was in the process of starting a company, Glass Guy Distribution, I had a 12,000 square foot warehouse in Fort Wayne, Indiana, that my investors had already owned.

We were remodeling it, putting in new offices and everything for a company that they were backing for me.

So I had investors that were

really

starting to go all in for Glass Guy Distribution, which is a company that I was starting.

And a distribution company for head shops, bongs, just everything that you could think of in a head shop at the time.

And

yeah, I just had a break one moment and had a suicide attempt, wound up in the ER after being pretty much unconscious for almost around 24 hours.

Damn.

And that was the beginning of my mental health treatment.

I didn't have any mental health treatment really before that.

And that was the beginning of the VA starting to treat me

for

suicide.

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So I had depression, anxiety, and PTSD, ultimately, you know,

to make a long story short for PTSD.

And I didn't know I had PTSD before that, got diagnosed and everything.

So 2014 and 16 was in the VA healthcare system.

I was on around five different medications.

Oh, I had to get off of to clean, to detox before I did my ayahuasca ceremonies.

But a lot of talk therapy, even had a service dog, and none of it was really helping.

And it was a conversation with another veteran close to 2016 timeframe that

had went down to Peru and I saw just there was something different in the way of who I was talking to and I was recognizing there was something different

so ayahuasca become my passion and I started researching it and for the next two months or so and found all I found was places in South America and it was outside of my budget at the time to go down and do anything like that

so

my girlfriend wife my wife now girlfriend at the time started researching

ayahuasca places in the States and SoulQuest church in Orlando come up.

They just closed just recently,

actually just a few months ago, they closed after being open 10 years.

But they had just started, they were like a year into it.

So there was like 20 people in the ceremony.

She booked a ceremony and she's like, hey, we need to start clearing out for this.

We need to stop drinking.

We need to

stop having sex, eating spicy foods, all these things.

You got to go vegan, right?

Pretty much.

You know, you can eat a typical, like a traditional meal down in Amazon would be fish, but no seasoning.

So basically, boiled fish and rice with no seasoning.

So a little seasoning is possible.

So we stuck to a diet as much as possible.

You know, I didn't realize at the time, but I was alcoholic.

I was drinking

two or three crown and coke mixed drinks, like tumblers of like Yeti tumblers a night.

Damn.

And that would be

three, four, sometimes seven nights a week, I would do that.

So just getting, going through that process, I realized I was an alcoholic even before

the ceremony, you know, because I kind of went through not like vicious alcoholic withdrawals, but there was definitely, you know, physical signs that I didn't even realize.

So just getting it cleaned out to go to ayahuasca ceremony.

And they say once you set the ceremony, the ceremony starts anyways.

Just drinking it is just a small part of the actual ayahuasca ceremony.

So it's like a full cycle.

Yeah.

Well, understanding it now that I like I do, it's the

spirit and everything, it's much stronger.

It's not contained just in the liquid.

It's in the ether.

It's around us right now.

You know, it's as we're having this conversation just because we're mentioning it.

Anyways, back up.

Yeah.

We did the first ceremony on Friday night, drank.

two or three cups and it was just hell.

I didn't see anything.

I was in the bathroom a lot.

You throw a lot, right?

Yeah, it's just, you know every

you it it escretes every place you know and I just leave it at that but it was just a cleansing that first night and I didn't see anything so the next morning after that first ceremony excuse me after that first ceremony

they have what they call integration ceremony uh integration circle about 10 o'clock 11 o'clock in the morning so everyone they you sit in a circle and everyone goes around talking about their experience yeah there's like 20 people there going around and everyone's oh so beautiful All these different colors, colors that you can't, you know, even articulate what they look like.

They're not from this planet.

Aliens, I saw my dead grandmother, all this stuff.

It gets around to me, I was like, I went to the bathroom 15 times, you know, and it was, yo, the worst flu ever.

And I want my money back because I don't want to be here for the second ceremony.

Oh, you said that?

Well, yeah, it was definitely talked about a lot.

I talked with the staff and stuff.

I didn't want my money back.

I just wanted to leave.

I didn't want to do the second ceremony.

And they talked me in.

They're like, lots of times if you're doing two ceremonies back to back, one ceremony is one way and the next ceremony is next night's the other way.

They're like, stay around and we'll make sure you get a good dose, you know, first cup.

And yeah, that second night, Saturday night, I took the first cup and 20 minutes after that, I felt like I was about to take my last breath.

I saw a light coming at me.

My very first thought was someone had got in their car.

We were at like this house outside Orlando.

And all our cars are parked in the front and we're like in this big backyard of this, not a mansion, but it's a big, big property.

Anyways, I'm thinking someone got in their car and it's driving around the back and just like blasted out of their mind, you know, and it's driving around the back and coming at me.

And as it gets closer to me, I see it's one light.

And the next thought is, I'm so messed up.

I didn't know I walked down the street like there's a mile when we're coming into this place.

We went over railroad tracks.

I'm so messed up I'm sitting on a railroad track I'm about to get ran over by a train

and as the light hit me it engulfed me and it was the light you know people talk about like being engulfed by a light stuff like that and I went through you know

kind of a near-death experience but with psych you know not a near-death but that type of experience going down the tunnel and seeing pictures of myself pop out And at that time, I perceived them as past lives.

Now I perceived them more as dimensional spaces or or

frequency points where I'm existing in different dimensional spaces or frequencies or time and spaces.

I don't see them as past lives.

Past lives

kind of adds fact to a linear time frame.

And I don't see any

through all my time from 2016 till now, I don't see any evidence that there's any linear

structure to this universe.

What about aging?

I think it's perception.

You know, I think it's just our perception in this small moment.

We're seeing through our senses, through

the light fractals, through our cones and our eyes.

You know, we only have a couple cones.

Like

butterflies have more cones, so they're seeing different things that are not here.

We're seeing and experiencing just a small pinpoint of reality.

And

we perceive it as the majority or most, and we perceive the spiritual side as a small part of an other, but really it's just the exact opposite.

What we're experiencing right now in this physical is a small pinpoint of the experience of the whole creation.

That's interesting.

So you had an out-of-body experience?

Several.

I've had a near-death experience in 2019.

I'm a sun dancer as well.

So a sundance is a Native American ceremony where you fast for four days without food and water.

Usually a sweat lodge in the morning before, for the day and after.

So total eight sweat lodges, four days without food and water, zero.

So you're super dehydrated.

Super dehydrated.

And by the second or third day, you know,

the veil of existence starts to break away.

And this is without any Medicaid, you know, this is without anything.

So when I say fast, it was food and water, no psychedelics or anything.

A lot of people don't know about Sundance, but it's something I experienced in 2017, 18, and 19.

and part of it also is a piercing.

So there's a movie out there.

It's called

A Man Called Horse.

So there's a clip in it where the guy has pierced his skin and there's a rope attached and he's like hanging from the ceiling.

That's

not exactly what the sundance I experienced was, but the piercings are.

Like the I have pierced my chest and back and attached a rope to a tree until you danced away and pulled.

So this normally happens on day three or four, the later parts of it, the later days of a sundance when you're already halfway out anyways.

And

you have visions

in that space.

Sounds sometimes.

In 2019, I pushed it too far and I had a near-death experience.

And I had the choice to come back.

And

I was able to see how my death or coming back and

resurrecting myself or whatever, however you want to put it, how each experience would affect.

And I waited out and I saw that coming back, but I made a deal with myself that I would be able to remember that space

of my near death.

Whoa.

And I didn't know I was dying until I heard someone say,

someone called 911, he doesn't have a pulse.

So I set out of, that's when I set up and when I sat out of my body.

And in those, that moment of me setting up, that millisecond of me setting up like total clarity hit of everything you know all the emotion of pain went away and just overwhelmed with clarity and a lot of love and joy I have heard that about near-death experiences actually like a enjoyable experience yeah I mean what it did for me in the long run to a long story short you know there's there's I wrote two books on on this subject and there's tons of interviews to go that go more in depth about it But long story short, what it did for me was take away the fear of death.

And I realized that we are dictated by the fear of death is one of the main things, falsehoods of

this reality that are not,

you know, we're taught in a way, especially in the Western world, you know, where

reincarnation is not really part of a lot of our religious practices here in this, in, in the Western world.

but the reality of it is i don't think we ever die you know i don't think there's ever a moment that we die that's interesting yeah a lot of people fear death even as a kid growing up i feared it now i've accepted it more yeah the body dies obviously the physical body will pass and go back into the process of you know fertilizing the earth and eventually being

those chemicals will come back together in a human body once again one day or an or an animal body or whatever.

But the energy, there's two facts that we can agree upon.

Energy never dies.

It just is transferred from one point to another.

That's something we can agree upon as a collective.

Another fact is there's energy inside of us.

Because when we die,

we get shocked with the paddles and a spark gets put back into us, jumpstarting us like a car.

There's an electrical spark in us that Reiki healers use, the meridian points that there's proven fact that we have energy coming off of us and we can raise and lower that energy depending on our conscious state.

You know, Reiki healers understand that.

So

those fact, if we put those two facts together, that says we never die.

Like

our consciousness never dies.

Like I, in my near death, it was like I said, I did not know I was dead until I heard someone say he does have a pulse.

I'm going to call it a 911.

Because never, there was never anything that signified to me that anything happened.

My consciousness, like if you were to close your eyes and I was continued talking, that consciousness drew was always

present, omnipresent, all the time.

Yeah.

Why do you think the memories get wiped in between lives?

Because I feel like there's a lot of valuable information in every life.

Well, we're all particles of source here having an experience.

And our mandate here is to have experiences to expand the consciousness of the whole source.

And

the most valuable experiences are when we're trying to recover from

some event and it's hard events, maybe a breakup in relationship, a loss of a job, all the way up to like mourning, mourning

a co-worker, a friend, a family member, a parent or a child that's where you get into really, really deep lessons in spirituality.

Because

you can talk about this stuff, you can talk about spirituality consciousness all day long, but

when you're going through it and having to apply those truths and theories to what's happening in your everyday,

that's the true test.

So mourning, when figuring out how to mourn in a proper way, like celebrating that life and understanding that

there's a good chance that whatever that consciousness is of whatever that passed away, a pet, a family, friend, whatever, or a parent, that energy is still there.

And you can talk to it with a faith that it's really there.

And I think people really need to take faith and it's there.

Wow.

That's deep.

So even pets, you think?

Dogs, cats?

I think anything.

You know,

I had a horse that just passed a few months ago.

His name is Atlas.

So

he passed

right after we had a Roar Borealis Borealis that was witnessed in Colorado.

Wow.

I didn't know it reached Colorado.

Yeah.

And I got pictures.

It's beautiful.

That's cool.

Check out my Insta.

It's all on there.

But

yeah, he passed away

the day after the Aurora Borealis.

So he was able to see the Aurora Borealis.

And a day or two after he passed, the Atlas Comet went by.

So synchronicities, you know, I live by synchronicities all the time too.

So and

there's

it's just a beautiful thing like

yeah, the Atlas comet went by and just all types of stuff.

Yeah, synchronicities and coincidences, people call them, right?

Yeah, I don't think there's any, I think coincidence is a man-made word to explain something that is going to be suppressed.

You know, the government, the powers to be, have lied to us about UFOs.

They've lied to us about consciousness.

They've demonized it.

They've pushed money into Hollywood to demonize it,

to make it

in the woo-woo category, all this stuff.

So when people talked about it, they were discredited.

But now we're starting to figure out that they were studying it all along in the background since the 30s, 40s,

or maybe even before.

Right.

The CIA was remote viewing very early on.

I mean, we're talking about consciousness, like, and I think, like, not jump to the end of the conversation, but this, the UFO phenomenon is being suppressed because of our relationship to the pilots and what's in the UFOs.

I think,

you know, I've obviously spent a lot of time in Native American ceremonies and around a lot of Native American elders.

There's always, they've never had a disconnect.

They've always known there's been a relationship and they've never not talked about it.

Here in the Western world,

it's been disconnected and put in a category that makes anyone talking about it not have any credit.

When in reality,

that relationship, the consciousness ability that we all have inherent in us, every single one of us,

bar none, has this ability and it's our choice to unlock it and expand it.

They've been messing around with it and they've been messing around with psychedelics, consciousness, and it's all one bag.

Yeah.

The UFO connection, it's all one bag.

I agree.

I had a pilot on yesterday, and he flew over South America and talked to Native people in that area, and they all said they see that stuff every day.

It's normal out there.

I've had experiences

with

grays in ceremony.

I've seen grays that come into ceremony.

They taught me how to heal with my hands one time.

It was...

In a ceremony in Creststone, Colorado.

There was three grays come in.

They walked around.

They were starting to heal.

I telepathically asked them to help to show me how to do that.

So they were walking around guiding my hands, showing me how to push energy out of my hands, basically Reiki heal on a really,

really

extraordinary level.

That's awesome.

And my wife was in that ceremony too.

And at that time, she was having like cramps.

And she had, from her first child, my stepdaughter, she's 20 now, and she's in Europe, by the way, traveling, having a great time.

She's living an amazing life.

She just started a trip with her boyfriend for like two weeks in Europe.

Nice.

Anyways,

after

my wife had hers, she could not have children anymore.

Like, she was like, there was something wrong.

Like, it was, she didn't have a hysterectomy or anything, but there was this problem.

So she couldn't have children anymore.

But that time, during the ceremony, she was having pains and

just pains in her abdomen, like

bad cramps over the past couple weeks leading up to the ceremony.

I asked the Grace,

I was like, you're showing me how to help everyone else in this ceremony.

There's like 20 other people in the room.

I was like, why don't you show me, why can't you show me how to help my loved one, my wife?

Like, that's, you know, first and foremost, that's how I want to help, you know?

Like,

there's nothing stopping.

And the response was, there's nothing stopping you from helping your wife.

I said, well, show me.

And I was tearing up.

I was weeping a little bit.

And they held my hand.

They wiped a tear off my eyelid.

And they rubbed it on her navel, around her navel.

They said, close your eyes and focus on love.

I have two children now that are proof that

something happened that day.

I don't know what it was.

And I don't know.

I'm not saying it was that day.

But I'm saying what.

What is the truth now?

I have a son named Hawk that's about to be three on January 11th, you know, 111 baby.

Numerology.

Yeah.

111, 2022.

On the way to the hospital before he was born, me and my wife both simultaneously saw a UFO that was that was following us.

That's crazy.

Yeah.

And Ember.

She's 18 months old.

Ember Elamina.

So Elamina is to illuminate.

So her name is the Ember to Illuminate.

And there's a lot of power in words, as you demonstrated outside.

You know, I think people need to take the naming part of their kids seriously.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Words are power.

You know, there's a, there's,

and

there's so much I can say about words and spelling and stuff.

You know,

amen is giving your power to someone else, but the I am is is recognizing that the power lies within you and you don't have to have a third party to connect to the power.

And that's ultimately my overall statement in my existence in this world is to bring forth that and help people foster their own connection, their direct connection to whatever they call it source.

I call it source, call it God, Buddha, or whatever label you put on it, it's the same vibration.

And I think source is the best

representation of that.

I think I have on the back of my first book, the first edition of it, I have on the back of a channeling I got from source the very first time I kind of recognized and channeled source.

It said, i am the source of all creation you are the creator through the power of manifestation step into your power to facilitate the upcoming evolutionary shift and that was the very first channeling from source i channeled osiris jesus and many things before that but it was a pinnacle moment in a channeling one time when i was channeling osiris and i heard jesus speak And Drew has always, back when I channeled

a lot, I would do

public channelings in Florida and stuff like that and video channelings and stuff.

But Drew would always be present, but his voice and his vocal cords were being used almost by something else,

but he was present in the moment.

And I was channeling Osiris one time, and I heard Jesus speak, and Drew was in the background, and I said, you sound like the same thing.

And that's when Source said, you know, that's, you finally, you know, said the magic words.

And that's when I started to understand the powers of i am you know the i am meditation or mantra with the sun meditation in the morning is a very powerful thing that the vedics uh sumerians were talking about that's been washed away and

i didn't know that was a thing because i always heard of amen from praying amen is giving your power to something else i am

is stepping in and saying i am

the I am and so is everything around me.

The cult leaders, they stop and they don't add on the last part of everything around me.

Interesting.

That's deep, man, because there's a lot of people that pray and they end it with amen.

That's giving, yeah, that's giving, you know, that's, that's saying, okay, I kind of need a third party to connect me to something else, the I am.

And this, you know,

people should look in the Vedic.

Vedic texts and things like that, the original sun meditation and learn the powers of sun meditation.

Look into breathatarians, you know, just just do their own studies this is

i i tell people all the time don't listen to what i say as fact like do you allow it to spark a google search you know or go to library and start to look up some of these things and find the find the truth out for yourself because ultimately this is an experiential thing you know i can talk about ufos all day i had a face-to-face experience near chaco canyon uh where i saw et without psychedelics or anything face-to-face was it a gray um no it was a shadow.

Oh, wow.

At first, I thought it was a shadow from a street lamp.

I was on the back back deck of a BNB.

I was traveling years ago.

Me and my wife were

celebrating an anniversary, and we went hiking in Chaco Canyon before that.

I took a drum there and sung a prayer song in the canyon after hiking, seeing the petroglyphs, seeing the Fibraci sequence a lot and starting to get like, I was almost

reading, but just by looking at the petroglyphs, I was getting messages from each and every petroglyphs.

Downloads, downloads.

And so I sung a prayer song, a Lakota prayer song in that canyon, just kind of thanking the spirits and went back to the BNB.

That night, woke up in the middle of the night to a ring in the ears.

At that time, I smoked tobacco.

I rolled my own tobacco.

So I rolled a tobacco up and went outside and went on the back deck and

lit it.

And as soon as I lit it, I just started like

the,

I was overcome with a vibration that started from within me and permeated out.

And it was to the point where it was just like overtaking me.

And so it got me to like hack or spit.

So I leaned forward to spit over the edge of this deck.

And as I leaned forward, I seen two feet beside me.

So we're in a town.

And I live out in the middle of nowhere.

I have a homestead.

We live off-grid, so I don't have any street lamps where I'm at and stuff, so I'm not used to that.

So my first thought was, there's a street lamp behind me.

I turned around and looked, there's no street lamp or anything.

When I turn back around

and I see this, the shadow like mirroring me, and I look and I was like,

I can't, I don't understand why this is a shadow.

And about as I'm thinking that, its eyes open up.

And light starts pouring out of its eyes as soon as

its eyelids start to break.

And as it's opened up,

I start to see like galaxies, stars in its eyes.

And the best way I can describe it, it pulled my soul out of my body.

Maybe it didn't pull my soul, but my soul came out of my body and went through its eyes.

Holy And I started flying through the universe.

That's insane.

And I got download after, I got download after download that I'm still processing.

And I don't, I couldn't even tell you what, I couldn't even tell you any specifics of what was told to me in that moment.

That's incredible.

And no psychedelics either.

That's no psychedelics.

So I come back into my body.

You know, I kind of feel my heels hit the ground.

So I felt like I wasn't like held in the ground, but I feel like maybe I was levitated a little bit, you know, looking back on it.

I look at it and it still has its eyes open.

It's like.

two bright lights, you know, just blinding white light coming out of it.

And I just run inside, lock the door.

I went back into human, right back in the human

freight or flight, locked the door.

I wake up my wife and I was like, you're, you know, you got to wake up.

You got to come look at this.

And she's like laughing at me.

She's, I tell her the whole story.

She's like had like experiences from when since she was a kid with all types of different things.

So nothing really like surprises her too much.

So she's like, she's laughing at me because I locked the door.

She's like, you lock the door like that's going to stop anything.

You know, if this is what it is, you know, what you did just describe, it's gonna go straight through the door, you know?

Yeah.

And

the kicker of that whole situation was a dream I had about maybe a week or two later where

I'm on another planet and I don't see my body or anything.

I just kind of like see myself walking.

I'm walking around on this other planet.

I see aliens walking around and no one's like paying me any attention.

And all of a sudden I blink and I'm like on this deck and I see me walk out and light a cigarette.

And at that moment, I realize like I'm looking at myself from another perspective.

And

in that moment, like that, that

taught me that experience.

I went through the whole experience of me walking.

Seeing Drew walk up, but from the other perspective of the ET

or higher being, angelic being,

whatever you want to call it, I don't know what it was.

It's something outside of space-time, you know,

higher dimensional, higher-dimensional, whatever you want to call it, you know, it's something that I can't articulate, but this is what I experienced.

And it showed me, basically, taught me bilocation, how we're bilocated at the same time, and multi-located.

We're not just bilocated.

I think we're living in multi-dimensional timeframes.

And as our consciousness expands, I think we

start to be operational or

active in more and more frequencies or different dimensional spaces.

As our consciousness expands in this one.

Yeah, because I've heard theories that we are aliens, right?

Absolutely.

I absolutely think we are because

for one, we have

stardust.

There's like

studies that's been found that we have particles of stars or remnants of stars in our physical makeup.

Wow.

Our eyes are made of, we have crystals in our eyes, you know, our body makes DMT.

There's,

and the relationship, the star being relationship, the Native Americans have never, if you go to tribes, and not just in North America, South America, you go to tribes in Africa,

they all talk about star beings or people from people from the stars,

you know, the shiny craft beings.

Like these are all off planets.

And they're not talking about them as these are beings coming out.

They're talking about the relationship of.

They're talking about the ancestral relationship of.

If we're talking about quantum entanglement,

people tend to put a boundary on that

when they start to dive into quantum entanglement and how energy all connects.

And they think it's only present maybe here on this earth.

Well, it's present everywhere.

it's, you know, it's present everywhere in every being.

Yeah.

You know, it's about frequency of vibration.

Tesla had it.

Tesla had it dead on.

And they took them out.

Story time.

In Florida, a few years ago, I was in between leading ayahuasca ceremonies, and me and my wife went over to a friend's house, not involved in psychedelics, but a friend of ours that lives in Florida.

They have a few dogs, and they had a new dog they were training with a collar on that had,

every time she pressed a button, it would have a beep.

I wasn't paying any attention, but this dog started jumping on me and she was hitting this button.

I was hearing this beep.

And then I put it together.

I was like, hit that button again.

And I heard the beep.

So what I'm saying is I was.

in between ceremonies and doing so many ceremonies around the same time because when I lead a ceremony, I also drink

basically micro dose.

You know, I don't take a

a full-on dose that you would take if you were like going in for a ceremony.

I take a micro dose.

But being I had so many ceremonies in that short time frame,

I could hear that frequency.

So my hearing was tuned up to a wider range of what it normally is.

And the same is true with sight, vision, all your senses, to include.

uh senses that we don't even know about you know i could see that because there's stories now of people restoring their vision poor vision yeah i it's funny i just had uh lasix a few months ago oh yeah yeah and i went from uh not wearing glasses at all couldn't see far away uh too clearly so i had lasix to fix that but now i have to wear glasses for my short vision so i it was a trade-off yeah um i think uh long vision is more important yeah so so i might be looking at stem cells someday if i oh in the eye that sounds painful i don't know i i've i've heard that stem cells not not just in the eye but stem cells like in your body can oh the ivs yeah the ivs

fix.

So I think there's a spiritual component to stem cells, so I'm a little cautious with those.

So I think when you're getting stem cells from another human's body, they're transferring spiritual energy as well.

What do you think about AI?

Do you think there's any spirituality in AI?

Not yet, but I think one day there could be, right?

All those movies.

I think there's spirituality in all existence.

Really?

So even AI right now, you think, has it?

Yeah, it was an idea in someone's head at one time.

Yeah, so an idea.

How does that translate to spirituality?

Well, if we're talking about manifestation, you know, manifestation is real.

We've been doing all along.

Sometimes

when we're manifesting, we use more physical, the physical force than

the spiritual or energetic force to manifest something.

But I asked the spirits one time, I was like, how is everything sacred?

Because

as I was going through my teachings, I heard elders always say, like, everything is sacred.

But that don't make any sense.

Like, what about the bad stuff?

You know,

what about guns?

What about, you know, the bad stuff that happens to people, babies, or whatever?

You know, it's, you know, all the bad stuff that happens.

But it was all in someone's mind at one time.

Wow.

It was, it trans, it's transferred from a picture of thought into the physical, no matter what it is.

That's true.

So that's how everything is sacred.

Interesting.

Yeah, there's no good and evil, right?

There's no

subjective.

The duality ends at the end of our 3D existence.

And 3D, 3D existence is not a physical thing.

It's a consciousness

frame of reference that we have so so 3d is is governed by the laws of duality good and bad good and evil you know a mirror back and forth moving past that is you know the the message that comes through in ceremonies through experience experiencers that have ufo experiences face-to-face or encounters, abduction, what do they come back and always say?

Oh, they're they're talking about one.

They're talking about we got to prepare for this.

We got, you know, we got to understand oneness.

We got to understand connectedness.

All this stuff.

That's what the messages keep telling us.

So why don't we listen to that?

Right.

You know, there's a reason why it keeps coming through.

Yeah.

And the connectedness, we,

when

it, it's not a physical point.

You know, we can, like,

I can be in 4D, 5D, and still be here in the physical, Just my consciousness having this conversation, even I'm probably in 4D or 5D.

I'm starting to talk outside of that duality and starting to advocate for the oneness and source energy that we all share.

That's how when

you start to date someone and after a while, you start to finish each other's sentences because you're within their aura.

Our auras are about three feet out that go around us all times.

That's our standard aura

that can be, a lot of people agree upon.

That can be expanded out or in depending on our conscious state.

People that run ceremony or lead ceremony with psychedelic, especially with ayahuasca, understand there's a process you can do to really expand that bubble or perimeter of your own aura to cover the

container of the ceremony.

And that's what I do and have learned over time.

That's part of what I do when I start to lead a ceremony with ayahuasca or San Pedro or Bufo Avarius I've lead I lead ceremonies with Bufo Avarius 5MEO DMT as well

so it's very important that I hold that space as well yeah because we all have an energetic field right 10 10 feet out from our bodies

I've been I've been told it's it's around three

to three to six feet is the the average aura so where our auras are intertwined right now so when you get into a relationship especially if you're you know your partner, you're sleeping together, you're in a car a lot, you know, you're having dinner a lot, your auras are intertwined a lot, and then you start finishing each other's sentences, you know, having, having the same thoughts.

And it's,

you know, it's romantic, but also there's a scientific reason behind it too, that I think is...

the science moving forward over the next couple years, next 10 years, is going to be integrating a lot of

energetic truths and spiritual truths into modern day science.

Absolutely.

There's something.

And I'm interested in that.

I'm definitely interested in seeing the bridge and hopefully being one of the people advocating for the bridge between science and spirituality because it's all creation and we need to find a way to integrate it.

There's the borders are, all borders are self-made.

I flew here

from Colorado is at night, but if I flew during the day, I would look down and I wouldn't see any lines of state borders.

Those are man-made and those are just ideas.

Wow.

And they teach you that growing up on the map.

They teach you a lot of things.

They also teach you to, I pledge allegiance to the flag.

And if we know

from spiritual practices in the East, mantras are very important.

Words are very important.

We just saw in the pre-interview when we were sitting outside in the green room about how energy is very important.

Yeah, you had that pendulum exercise.

So now we know they've been studying consciousness all the way back then.

Don't you think that maybe that Pledge of Allegiance and all the mantras that we have, maybe they're siphoning our energy and tricking us into giving them our manifestation energy to build a cage around ourselves unknowingly.

Wow.

That's deep.

Because they make you pledge every day in school, every single day.

Yeah, and if you're not, know, if they're not, they punish you.

You're not a patriot.

Yeah.

I remember.

Look at this is my,

and this is a, I have a flag that goes all the way up here.

Wow.

And I got that right before I, right before I did my first ayahuasca ceremony.

It was just being finished up.

I think I had one more session.

And coming out of my second ayahuasca ceremony, a lot of clarities came.

And this is one of the clarities.

I was like,

mantras are very important.

Words are powerful.

That means they have been you, it like all this hit me all at once, dude.

You know, it just got thrown in my lap of

crumbling of the society and

the atrocities against of consciousness using their understanding of consciousness to

siphon our energy, man, to make us say these things over and over.

Think about it.

It's been magnified billions, trillions of times that that mantra has been said

over and over, especially with a deep heart.

Oh, that's, that's that recipe right there, a deep heart and a, oh, man, I'm doing the right thing.

Right.

Coupled with that, oh, man, you're talking about a huge manifestation energy.

Yeah, because they make you put your hand on your heart.

Yeah.

Holy crap.

That is crazy to think about.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's like they want us to live in a 3D mindset, right?

Yeah.

Like intentionally.

Well, you know, it's a 40-hour work week, white pick a fence, just below poverty line.

So you have to give money to an insurance company or the government, whatever you want to call call it.

You know, they're basically fronting as an insurance company saying, you give me this money every month, something happens, I'll be there.

But we've been shown over and over again, especially over the past couple of years, they're not there when shit really hits the fan.

Yeah.

You know, I wouldn't rely on the government.

That's why people,

so I do the podcast, Space.radio, on Saturday and Sunday night.

Every Saturday and Sunday night, Space.Radio, check us out.

But a lot of the conversations over there

talks around experiencers getting messages to homestead, be more self-sufficient, maybe not be preppers, but maybe it wouldn't be hurt to be prepared a little bit, have a go bag, something like that.

You know, not delve off deep into it and

buy a silo in

Idaho or something like that.

But

just live a little bit more in balance, you know, and I tell people, even if you live in the city, an apartment, you know, you can get a tomato plant, get a couple seeds and start a tomato plant and grow a tomato plant in your window and eat that tomato or whatever, you know, whatever.

Eat something that you've grown and

you're jumping into a sacred cycle, a sacred ceremony that we've been a part of for thousands, thousands of years since humans first started.

Think about it.

If everything's a ceremony and even eating is a ceremony, we're feeding ourselves, you know, physically, but there's also an energetic exchange, spiritual exchange.

It's sacred because you have to do it to survive.

So really, it's become a ceremony.

And when you add in growing your own food, you can even do this without growing your own food.

You pray over your food

and you don't have to have any certain prayer.

It's just sending an energy

of gratitude and thankfulness to the water, food, whatever it is you're taking in.

that can be magnitude if you grow it a little bit.

Like, you know, I live on a homestead.

I'm full on solar.

You know,

we have two green, two and a half greenhouses.

We have an outdoor garden.

We have chickens.

We get eggs from them.

We have goats, you know.

And my podcast studio that I do my broadcast from is all runoff solar.

You know, I remind people all the time that's run off solar.

And my house, we have everything that you would have in a normal house.

That's awesome.

So I'm here to like show that it can be a balance.

Like you, you don't have to live in a cave to be spiritual.

The point is a melding of these two worlds, you know?

Yeah.

A good friend of mine, Billy Carson, I know he's been on here a lot, his famous book,

Woke Don't Mean

Broke, I think is a beautiful message because if you truly understand

this experience and what we're going through, why wouldn't you manifest yourself in, you know,

abundance in all areas, not over abundance, but abundance in all areas.

So I think

it's a good message that we need to.

This creation is about us making, I believe, in soul contracts, you know, and all that.

And I definitely wrote a soul contract when I come back from my near-death experience.

And oh, so you could write them during the life too, not just before?

I think, especially in certain moments, like a near-death experience is a moment when you can rewrite your soul contract, you know,

first I um first psychedelic breakthrough, you know, there's there's usually some type of some type of choice like that moving forward.

Yeah.

And

actually, as I'm saying that, I think we have that choice in every moment, you know, every day when we wake up, we have a right to recite our soul contract.

You know, how am I going to be, how's I, how am I going to, and it starts off of how am I going to be as a partner, a friend, you know, and they're on out.

Yeah.

Because the real work, you know, as I sit here and speak, you know, a lot of people get focused on cleaning up the oceans or doing these massive things to help the environment.

And I know there's a lot of worry out there of what's going on in the world, especially in the United States recently with attacks and all that.

But the message ultimately is we need to focus on ourselves.

The real work starts here,

in each of us individually.

What we're seeing, what we're seeing outside is a perception.

Like, you know,

I see the beginning of a revolution, revolution, not of, not in a negative way, very much the opposite.

I see it as a start of a very, very positive revolution.

I see it start of a new age in humanity.

We're about to have open contact.

I mean, we have drones flying everywhere that's unchecked.

They're flying over airports.

They're flying over military installations.

You know, we have an inauguration coming up.

You know, my question has been, I put it out there in public a few times, like, if we're not doing anything about these drones that are flying over New Jersey and other parts of the United States, flying over airports that we know that are federally regulated over airports, like

why we don't know what they are, like the narrative the public that's been put out by the White House and Powers to Be has said that they don't know what they are.

That's crazy to me.

Yeah.

Like what?

We're about to inaugurate another president on the 20th.

You know,

no matter your political viewpoint, what if those drones are flying over the inauguration?

What is our course of action then?

Is there going to be interaction then?

Are we going to move the venue?

Are we going to go inside?

How far is this going to go with the drones before someone tells us what's going on?

I don't believe that they don't know what it is.

Trump has alluded to that they know what it is.

They know where they're coming from, whether it be all planet, this planet.

But it's very alarming, you know?

Do you think the government's purposely instilling fear when it comes to UAPs, drones, and aliens?

They have all along.

So why wouldn't they know?

That's what I think, too.

Especially if we're about to have open contact.

Yeah, yeah, it's hard to believe anything they say about aliens.

But anyone that's had experience, bona fide experiences with ET or seen crafts, they've had physical experiences that they've had, like bringing in the ears, vibration, things like that.

And there's an awakening that happens.

Like you can never go back and not believe once you've had an experience.

So,

you know, I've had visions

a while back about we were going to have a mass contact event.

Like there was going to be a lot of ships showing themselves at the same time.

Whether this be the beginning of or not, I'm not sure, but

I hope it is.

Yeah.

You know,

I really hope it is.

I also was shown, and there's a clip I found I did on the Curious Chimps podcast back in 2019, before running up to the election and they're like hey Drew like what any closing thoughts I was like yeah I'll just share like a dream I had been having recently I had a dream and the message

in the dream was very clear it said Trump would be the last president of this current governmental structure

and then 2020 coming in as we know he didn't get he didn't get elected so I was I spent like a year like questioning myself I'm like man like I was pretty sure about that and even enough to mention it on a live broadcast.

It takes a lot of

a lot a lot of persuading for me to do stuff like that.

You know, I've been speaking since 2019 on this stuff and speaking about consciousness and UFOs, you know, it's, it's, it's a tricky business.

Yeah.

But

yeah, so coming up close to this last election, it was clear to me the energy.

I could feel the energy moving forward and actually bet on Trump winning, you know, made some bets online.

On Polymarket.

Yeah, made some bets online, made a little bit, nothing to brag about or anything, but it was, I wish I, I wish I would have trusted my instincts more.

Yeah, because he was underdog at first.

Yeah, I could have really cashed in.

But

yeah, when he got elected, I was like, okay, you know, this is, this is, for me, it set a time frame within the next four years.

I believe we're going to see a reform in government.

Maybe not, maybe not even a government anymore you know maybe we might go to tribalism or something like that I mean they're already announcing dojo is gonna remove 80% of jobs right yeah I mean crypto if you're not in crypto right now like what what are you doing you know if you're not in crypto right now you're not paying attention to the news like why not you know people like oh I don't want to do that it supports this person this person that person like the signs are very clear if you don't have if you don't have a crypto account right now like what the hell are you doing yeah you know because the next four years like this is your chance to

make money.

So it's like the prophecy you were talking about, the Trump prophecy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think he's going to be.

And you can already see the signs.

You know,

RFK comes in, and if he delivers on the mandates, I saw you just had Donnie Jr.

on recently.

I saw that.

I listened to that interview as

I was in the airport and traveling and stuff.

So I could

get kind of a feel for where you're at in this moment.

So yeah, it's

but to be clear, I'm not political either.

You know, I didn't vote.

I didn't vote either.

I didn't vote because I don't, I don't believe in, I don't believe there's any,

I believe it's kind of a show.

I don't, I don't believe there's any parties, you know.

No, they divide us intentionally.

Yeah, they divide us intentionally.

And I think this is the age of oneness coming up.

You know, this is the age of understanding source and our connection to our cosmic brothers, our connection to the sun.

You know, there's, there's bretatarians out there.

There's, there's 200,000 people on this planet that don't eat food or water.

They, they eat the sun.

Holy crap.

You know, for how long can you do that, though?

Um, I've heard some people have been alive over 20 years.

Wow.

You know, and it's, I understand it.

I'm not saying I'm at that point because I'm definitely indulging in food.

I love my food.

But

I could see how it could work.

You know, you could get your consciousness to a state of, okay, this is energy because anything we're taking in, like we're taking, if we're eating a hamburger, if we're eating a salad, it still comes from the sun.

That energy that gets transferred through

photosynthesis,

I'm not pronouncing it right at all.

But

that energy that gets transferred to the plant, we ingest and it's washed down energy from the sun.

So, you know, talking about morning meditations meditations and with the sun, you know, the first five minutes or so that the sun comes up, they do morning meditations looking directly at the sun.

Those first

couple minutes, yeah, those first couple minutes, it's not, you can do it.

But I've found that the mantra that is best suited for that is I am, I am.

And that means everything that's in between you and the sun, including the sun and back, is all part of yourself.

And you're sitting there with that, with that mantra and with a couple with the sun, you can start feeling sun coming in.

You start to understand how Reiki healers heal with their hands through their meridian points.

You know, that's why people use pendulums and they hold them over their hands.

Like you're, for instance, if I hold a pendulum over my left hand, it would go clockwise.

If I hold a pendulum over my right hand, it goes counterclockwise.

Wow.

So positive and negative body term, positive and negative terminals, if you know anything about electricity or anything, no, that's the basis behind electrical charges and stuff.

That's how Reiki healers work.

They visualize and understand and feel.

There's a certain point.

Have you ever felt like a tingling in the middle of your hands?

Especially my fingertips, yeah.

Have you ever felt like your cell phone's in your pocket?

Maybe you have it on vibrate, and you go to find your cell phone and it's not in your pocket.

Yeah, that's a kundalini awakening.

That's that's your that's energy basically coming out of your um your root chakra around around your anus and everything and it vibrates like wow I've and

that's how I know when I'm around I used to I don't it doesn't really affect me anymore like I used to be

when I'm going through the process it affect me in different places different people I meet a lot now it doesn't affect me like nearly to that degree but sometimes I feel like basically a cell phone in my pocket like vibrating my privates and to that point and there'd be no cell phone it'd just be I was around someone or around a certain area.

You know, I like to visit petroglyph sites and things like that.

One thing I found in a, I've been to around five different sites in the United States.

Every single site I've been to, I found a Fibonacci sequence in every single one of them.

Holy crap.

The ancients were trying to let us know this is the key to understanding.

our existence is understanding the swirl of energy that's around all of us.

Yeah, could you explain a sequence for people watching, the Fibonacci sequence?

So the swirl, there's an energetic swirl that engulfs all of us.

We all have a Merkaba.

We all have a Merkabah that's our energetic signature.

And that's what we look, that's what everything in existence, manifestation, whether it be in the physical or not, even an idea has a Merkabah around it.

That is just the template of it.

Once we put an idea into it, it starts to become whatever we...

decide on but that energy the invisible energy that's around all of us and before the show, me and Sean sat down and we did an exercise with a pendulum.

And you can do this at home.

You can take, we use a lighter, for instance, and just set the lighter on the ground.

You don't have to light it.

It has nothing to do with the flame.

People get caught.

People find rabbit holes to go down when I explain this thing.

But just put a lighter just so we can, you know, agree upon maybe a Bic lighter or something like that.

Put a lighter on the ground, hold a pendulum over it, and think about it in different ways.

Maybe the physical way of it, the physical aspects of it, a plastic a spring in it butane and the other way maybe it lights sage for you maybe it lights tobacco maybe if you were stuck out in the wilderness you light a fire like how important is that lighter then how sacred is it to you then when it comes to your life like think about it in that way this exercise is designed to when you change the way you talk about something one way or another The more sacred, more gratitude you send to object,

it will activate and kind of move the pendulum around in a circular motion.

That circular motion is the Fibroti sequence, the swirl that we see dictated on, even in Egypt, all over the world, but

even here, the United States, petroglyph sites had these all over.

Sacred sites all over the world have them.

But it's the energy that flows, the chi.

They call it the force, you know, in South America.

There's different words for it, but it's it's the energy that's coming from source that we get to dictate.

And, you know, it's the putty of existence that we get to meld.

Yeah, that was a really cool exercise.

A lot of power and pendulums.

Yeah.

I'm going to my first time ever, a full moon sound bowl session next week.

I'm really excited.

Nice.

Have you ever done one of those?

Yeah, I've done a lot of.

I bet you have.

I've done a lot of different things.

UWippi ceremonies.

Uwippi ceremonies is a Native American ceremony without

any psychedelics.

It's just song.

People can look up

Black Elk Speaks is a book that talks about the UWIPI ceremony.

So I experienced three of those ceremonies.

Those are on full moons or they're not on full moons, but they're only songs.

So there are about 26 different songs that are sung.

back-to-back connected.

So they're sung in groups.

Wow.

So there'd be like eight, eight, and eight.

But when you're singing a group of songs, the song from one connects to another, so there's no like pause in between,

and that vibration will open up different channels.

You know, I've experienced Bigfoot in one of these ceremonies, and Bigfoot is very deeply connected to the ceremony.

Looking back on it, I didn't know it at the time how deeply Bigfoot was, but yeah, I definitely become a believer in that ceremony.

That's interesting.

Yeah, I've always theorized that Bigfoot is interdimensional, right?

Absolutely, yeah.

Yeah, I don't think it's physical.

So,

not delving too far into it.

People can do their own research on the UWIPI, but the UWIPI ceremony I was in,

I witnessed Bigfoot, and he entered and exited the room, a closed door room, closed windows, doors locked, curtains on the windows, pitch dark, just being entered and exited without going through a door or anything.

So it's, I totally believe it's

interdimensional.

Was it a friendly presence?

Absolutely, yeah.

I think,

i don't think there's any

i don't think there's any hierarchy past 3d i don't think there's any hate past 3d wow i don't i think i because that's the message if we're one how can we how can there be any hate let me push back on that a little bit because there have been alien intergalactic wars though right

so i don't know if that stems from hate but there must be something causing divide in the upper echelons i don't know if it's i i don't know i know i have um

ryan bled so

he's been on or wait his his son has been on yeah i think uh is it ryan or chris chris and ryan chris is the dad ryan's the son okay so ryan i listen i listen to ryan's podcast yeah he's so i agree with him when people talk about negative et i don't believe it how how can you

if they're if they're higher consciousness beings if et is higher consciousness beings and we're at the point when the message keeps getting screamed at us that we're all one

how

How can there be any?

If you're truly embodying the idea of oneness,

how can there be any conflict?

How can there be any hierarchy?

I think it's so far out of the realm of our existence thus far as humans that we really can't fathom

a world without conflict.

It'd be hard to fathom as a human, yeah.

Yeah.

Because it's been

it's generational.

I mean, you know, it's programmed into us, it's programmed into it, every movie, but

what is evolution, you know, if we're evolving, like we have to let go of some things to make room for others, yeah.

But what about like uh reptilians, the shadow government?

I believe in that, you know, I believe that there's been, especially with everything that's coming out with what we were just talking about earlier, consciousness, UFOs, uh, psychedelics, and demonizing it.

Um, I think I'm not in the Greer camp, but I definitely agree with a lot of things that he says.

And I think that there's a big psyops going on to

artificially make

an idea that there is outside of ourselves a higher realm that's controlling us or this, that, and the other.

I think it's a psyops thing that's run by the government.

Really?

I believe in Blue Beam.

Like, I believe, you know, in

all these things they talk about, like the false alien invasion.

I think that's a possibility too.

Like

we're seeing,

and it coincides with the Trump prophecy I was talking about.

I think we're seeing the last grip holds of a dying system

that

has been, the truth was told in 2020 when COVID went out, come out.

Why was 2020?

chosen as that year.

Around 1840 something, I forgot the name name of the guy, the date was set as 2020 that we start to have clarity.

Wow.

Because he coined the phrase 2020 vision.

So as a collective force, we all agreed that 2020 meant perfect vision, clarity, right?

Yeah.

All the way up till January 1st, 2020, when we had to start writing it down.

So unknowingly, you know, the universe put this into, put this in that 2020 would be the year that we start to have clarity and perfect vision as a collective.

Because as we write it down, we write January 1st, 2020 on our checks, on typing it out in an email or whatever, seeing it.

And not consciously, but subconsciously, you're going clarity.

And that's going out into the universe.

That's magnified by 8.6 trillion, give or take, you know, whatever.

Whatever population is.

Yeah.

So

manifestation, words are power.

We need, you know, Dr.

Emoto, I know a lot of listeners will know when I'm talking about Dr.

Emoto.

Those who don't, look it up, The Secret of Water.

It'll blow your mind.

Like

the studies found out that

both positive and negative vibration affects water.

What are we made out of?

We're 80%, 75, 80% water as human beings.

So we can take that truth that Dr.

Emoto found with just water, just a glass of water, and apply it to ourselves.

That's why music therapy, sound bass, that's why why music and vibration is so important in ayahuasca ceremonies.

You know, when I sing or play, I play didgeridoo, I play a lot of flute, I also sing sacred songs in ceremony.

There's definitely points in the ceremony where I'm seeing music and

I'm writing, I'm painting a picture in my mind's eye, but using music to do it.

Wow.

So you're seeing the actual music?

Yeah, Icaros, especially Icaros

that you have that are connected to different spirit animals, older Icaros that are like connected to the Anaconda, things like that.

You know, the Anaconda will come through, but

the picture is made by your own voice, your own vibration.

And you kind of start channeling it from, you know, a higher source or whatever.

That is crazy.

Spirit animals, what's the reason for those, you think?

Well,

it's a spiritual language.

Every religion, every spiritual practice has its own language of describing something.

If you listen to it, the vibration of it, whether it be Christianity, reading the Bible, reading the Quran, really,

all of it, Buddhism, Hinduism, if you feel the vibration that's hidden below the words and

everything else, it's all source

in the background.

So spirit animals for native americans like they they mean different things the eagle means different thing that the hawk means a different thing an owl means a different thing like and it's it's uh regional so depending on what your tribe is like um an owl might mean something a positive thing a lot of tri a lot of tribes if an owl shows up so they know someone's about to die within the next four days or something whoa you know if an eagle shows up they're like oh you know the crater is here like that because the eagle flies the highest uh the protector of the the eagle would normally be like a hawk.

So people that find feathers or have experiences where like a, you know, an eagle swoops down while you're driving down the highway or something like that, that means, you know, a spirit animal is reaching out to you and you need to look into that just as if you were seeing like 777 or number sequences, you know.

Interesting.

You will look into what that means.

The universe is always speaking to us.

you know and people that has done psychedelics and done ceremonies you know they start to see sequences and start to see different points of the universe speaking.

Maybe you're behind a car and looking at the license plate and a number sequence or a letter speaks to you about something on that car or the color or whatever.

Or maybe

it reminds you of a dream that you had.

You know, I've had several instances where I've had dreams, repeated dreams, and then they manifested in the physical.

And I've had several visions that have manifested in the physical.

That I've seen in ayahuasca ceremonies and then

I end up having that same experience.

So I think

I don't think time is real.

I think it's all happening here and now.

And I think when we start getting an understanding and a higher vibration of it, we start to have experiences showing us proof of that.

Yeah.

Do you think dreams are your higher self communicating with you?

Higher self would put a hierarchy on it.

I just believe it's a different part of yourself.

It's maybe a different vibration.

And I wouldn't say,

I try not to say anything that signifies anything of a hierarchy because that's one thing that's very,

that's very put across a lot.

And especially when I would start having all these visions, like I was having downloads, visions, and

ask for signs of, you know, proof of something connecting, like having a dream and just asking for proof, like show me a sign and signs would come.

But

so I've always been a skeptic and I guess I've asked so many times for it to be proven that now I just, I have a faith that is there and I see it in everything.

I see myself in everything and I see the universe in everything and I see

I think we're entering a beautiful era in our existence as human beings.

I think we're on the verge of

evolution of humanity.

You know, I think so too.

You're hearing it from a lot of different people, even different like cultures and different spiritual beliefs are all kind of saying the same thing, which is interesting.

Yeah, there's so there's this collective dream that's had a lot, and they call it the shaman's dream or awakening dream.

And a lot of people are coming forward.

I had it years ago.

There's a series of dreams that people have, and it's a certain

point in a spiritual growth pattern.

I've seen,

I was talking with my buddy earlier.

The spiritual growth pattern is

individual, so no one's the same, but there are some type of patterns to it sometimes.

There's a dream that's shared that's told a lot by people, or a series of dreams that's told a lot about people.

People seeing floods, people seeing volcanoes, people seeing

earthquakes.

all these natural occurrences and also like war, fire um terrorist attacks things like that basically mayhem you know and

um i had this dream years ago and and seeing it watching the news like watching the news and seeing two or three different tornadoes on the same screen like i remember having that vision wow you know i had a guest that had a vision of 9-11 before it happened a channeler that's crazy yeah so i could definitely see that you know i and we look at it says such important things you know but in the grand scheme of things, we don't die.

I think our energy lives on forever.

I think we keep coming back and doing this.

And as many times as we want,

I think we go and be an animal.

If we need to work on patience, we take on a life as a rock.

We live as a rock for 10,000 years and we learn patience.

I don't think it ever stops, man.

And knowing that you don't have an 80-year template anymore.

You have have an eternity to build on your work and purifying yourself, being a better person or

whatever your calling is.

I definitely have had a calling and messages, prophetic messages or whatever you want to call it, to be a messenger for humanity, to help them through this time.

And

one thing was told to me very clear, there would be a point in my time when people would try to deify me.

but don't let them because this is exactly what you're doing.

You're here to dismantle all that.

So there's no third party.

Has that happened to you yet?

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's, I mean, not to the extent where, you know, people wanted to start a cult, but, you know.

Just happened to Billy, Billy Carson.

Did you see that?

No, I didn't see that.

I tell you something about Billy.

A lot of people talk about Billy.

You know, there's been a lot of talk about Billy.

But this is what I know.

I used to, I had him on my podcast years ago.

I used to have dreads.

Oh, yeah.

So a few years ago, I had a show that I started myself, you know, just

from the, you know, did it from the ground up.

And

it was called Eagle's Nest Podcast.

And I met Billy when I was co-hosting on another podcast.

I invited him to my podcast.

A little small little thing.

So he was on there and we

started talking.

We realized we were both on the vibe of a lot of things.

I asked him about the Jesus and Osiris connection, if he thinks it's the same soul, because I saw similarities between the relationship between Osiris and Isis and Jesus and Mary Magdalene and others.

So I saw

these two soul groups that were meeting in different times and I asked him about that and he was reviving on that anyways

this is what I say about Billy when my son Hawk was born early Billy Carson was one of the very first people to reach out and donate money to me wow

and he did it anonymously he never asked for any recognition or anything but when people started talking about Billy like you know, I know that some of the stuff he may be, you know, may not be believable.

Some, he may be fact-checked.

You know, I know that he went, he went through a debate that's, that's hurting him and all this stuff, but that's what I know about Billy Carson personally.

He's always been good to me, man.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He did, I sent him my books.

He did a video talking about my books.

And, you know, I posted a few times on my socials talking about how great my books were and stuff.

So I have nothing but love for Billy, man.

Yeah.

I really do.

Shout out to Billy and Liz.

You know, they're, they're doing God's work the way I see it, you know, and doing the work.

There's going to be haters, man.

Oh, yeah.

There's, there's always going to be haters.

You need thick skin in this space.

I'm getting some hate right now.

It's, uh, yeah, five years ago, it would have really got to me.

Yeah.

But I've developed some thick skin.

So yeah.

You know, I'm, um,

I put a goal at 2024.

One of my goals was to be on Sean Ryan by the end of the show, in the end of 2024.

And I didn't, didn't get that one.

But my goal for 2025, and I've had dreams about it.

I've had like two dreams.

I'd be in the green room at N Joe for Joe Rogan.

Let's go.

And yeah, I'm going to do it, man.

You're going to do it, bro.

You're right there.

I'm going to do it.

You got

people in your network that have been on that show.

Yeah,

I see it, you know, but I've always had a problem with patience.

Yes.

You know, I always want it right now.

And if I don't meet a goal, like

even leading up to the end of last year, like I'm in contact with Sean Ryan's producer and stuff like that.

You'll get on that show, too.

Yeah, I'll get on eventually.

But

once you get on one of them,

it's all like a small world.

Yeah, but man, I appreciate you having me, bro.

It's been a great conversation.

It's been super fun.

I do want to ask one more thing before we wrap up.

Absolutely.

I want to ask about dinosaurs.

Dinosaurs, I think it's

a perception thing.

I think there's a dinosaur-dragon connection.

And I think dinosaurs lived in the time of humans.

And I think it's masked by the stories of dragons.

So if we caught, the names are so so close, you know,

but if we separate them with two different names, then one becomes a mythical creature and one becomes part of history.

But I think dragons were dinosaurs living during human times.

And the storyline behind dragons were meant to cover up a truth that the powers to be thought it wasn't right for us to know at the time.

Wow.

So you think they actually existed?

I think they exist.

I think they exist.

I think there's a lot of truth.

There's too many stories for them not to be true.

Like, you know, when

you have a few stories here and there, we can say, okay, that was maybe just an idea or a vision or some type of maybe they maybe they ate a mushroom or something like that.

And it was a small group of people.

But when it's repeated over and over, like what we're finding right now, like there is no conspiracy.

Like, what, how many conspiracy theories have died and got switched from nonfiction to fiction over the past couple years?

Yeah.

You know, I think we're going to see a massive uptick in that.

I think that's only going to continue on and speed up over the next couple of years.

Oh, it already started.

I mean, chemtrails have been proven to be true.

5G has been proven to be true.

Almost every conspiracy growing up that I remember has been proven to be true now.

Yeah, it's crazy.

Dude, think about my kids, my younger kids.

They're growing up in a whole different, whole different idea.

Like, I grew up where aliens weren't real for the the first part of my life.

Right.

You know, and now I'm, I'm going into a different,

especially from my own experiences.

But I, by the way, I didn't have any UFO experiences until after ayahuasca.

Like, ayahuasca opened, opened the vibration and opened me up to start having those experiences.

Right.

So I definitely think it's a vibrational thing with the ETs because I wasn't able to see them or perceive them before.

100%.

The blood cells talk about this.

Yeah.

Certain people can just summon them out of the air.

Yeah.

And if Ryan or Chris is listening to this, like, let's connect.

Like, we need to talk you know absolutely um i got a

a few plugs i want to put out yeah um got um

got a project coming up in may we're going to be doing a c5 in uh san luis valley there's two meteor impact craters so i'm going to do a c5 from inside a meteor impact crater what's a c5 um close to like uh the greer thing calling calling in a shop like having having a group people and having a shared intention of having a ufo experience

So,

and also, I don't know if you heard of Grant Cameron.

He's someone,

he won't be able to come in person.

He's up in Canada and rarely ever travels to the States, but he's UFO expert

trying to get him down and trying to get this

actually a film thing that's based around

psychedelic assisted C5 contact events.

So having taking small amounts, like a microdose, having the whole group take a small

amount of psychedelics mushrooms and going into a collective prayer and trying to do a C5 like

a Stephen Greer type of thing.

That's in May.

Yeah, it's tentatively in May.

One thing that's locked down, I will be in Joshua Tree the first week in February.

I think it's 7th and 8th, whatever that Friday and Saturday is, 7th and 8th timeframe, maybe 6th, I don't know.

I don't have my phone in front of me.

I will be in Joshua Tree.

I will be leading two ayahuasca ceremonies.

And we have a few open seats left.

Uh, it'd be a traditional ayahuasca ceremonies, and there'll be additional uh add-on ceremonies that um can be added on to that.

But that will be in Joshua Tree, and you're invited too, man.

Oh, thank you.

If you want to, if you think it's time to drink ayahuasca, maybe this is your sign, like come do it.

We'll put a link below, man, yeah, to your events.

Yeah, you can find me at uh, Sacred Dreams Within is um, my church.

Um, I got a psychedelic church in Colorado, Retreat Center, 501c3,

and uh, register with the state in 2020.

SacredDreamsWithin.com, and any of the socials you can find me at Drew Banke.

I'm not hard to find.

Beautiful.

We'll link it all below.

Thanks for coming on, Drew.

Yeah, brother.

Yeah, that was fun.

Let's run it back sometime.

Yeah, we will.

All right, brother.

Check them out, guys.

Peace.