Poker Strategy Secrets: From Rookie to Pro in 10 Months | Hayes Pullard DSH #1111

There's some interesting fantasy bets on up.

Have you used Polymark yet?

Yeah, let's go through some of these because you play fantasy.

Who do you think the top fantasy running back will be at the end of the season?

Oh, that's a tough one.

You're talking about the goal line and the touchdowns because I want to go for a receiving back, but I think I have to go with Derrick Henry.

But I mean, you can't sleep on David Montgomery and Jamar Gibbs.

Like, I think it's going to be one of those three.

Okay.

Oh, my gosh.

I know everybody wants to say Saquon.

Saquon's number.

Saquon's number one.

My gut right now is like, bro, you're going to get slapped in the the face later.

All right, guys, Hayes is back.

Is this the eighth Pokémon, man?

You guys have been crushing it.

Yes, sir.

Yes, sir.

Seven successful tournaments.

Now going on to the eighth championship tonight.

We're really excited about it and shoot.

Excited for all these players that's about to come out here and try and go win, you know, the 100K purse.

Let's go, it's 100k today?

100k purse.

50k for first place.

So, you know, we got a lot of celebrities coming to go get it.

A lot of competitive celebrities.

You guys have been leveling up.

The first one was like 10k, right?

Yeah, so moving from, you know, 10K on the single tables and then 50,000 for

the invitationals.

But now, you know, since it's the championship, let's bump it up and, you know, ramp it up and just have some fun with it.

Let's get it, baby.

And you got the flip-flops you could bet on who's going to win and stuff.

Absolutely.

You know, you got the odds, the worst odds, the best odds.

You got some of the poker pros that got great odds, even some of them that have bad odds.

And you got people texting me like, oh, what are these type of odds?

I'm like, bro, if you hate the odds, bet on yourself, man.

If you think you go with somebody, did you bet on yourself?

No, I did not.

I don't think I'm going to win.

I mean, it's so much to do with poker.

You know, like the cards is the cards.

Like, you can't, you know, you know, do anything about it.

I can have aces, and somebody has a pair of jacks, and the jack comes on a flop, the aces are nothing.

No, for real.

Every tournament, someone gets out within the first, like, 10 minutes.

Yeah, that's my goal is not to get out in the first 10 minutes and walk around.

Like, oh, what happened, Ace?

That's you.

You know, it was a poker pro.

Guess not.

Absolutely.

Who's at your table tonight?

Oh, shoot.

I think it's the Bryce Hall, Mika, Jose Conseco,

Bob Moneri.

A really cool, really cool group.

Yeah, so we're going to have some fun over there.

Yes, sir.

Hopefully, you could be the last athlete left.

That part, that's the goat, because there's a lot of trash talk coming around.

Bryce Butler, Prince of Mukamur, Pat P, and even Adrian Peterson, the GOAT himself.

So I'm excited to see you.

We're going to have some AP playing, man.

Yeah, it's been a minute.

It's been a minute.

That is the GOAT right there, though.

Absolutely.

I remember having him in fantasy in high school.

Really?

Oh, my God.

I would win every game because of him.

That's awesome.

That's crazy because I was about to say I didn't start playing fantasy until like two years ago.

And like to hear people say, like, oh, like, I had AP back in the day, Zeke back in the day, like, it's awesome here.

Oh, so they were balling then well you probably couldn't play as a player right no 100 but the crazy part is i think you can you just can't do it for money which i think because austin eckler is in you know fantasy so he plays with his friends sometimes he plays with us like i'm like oh so you can play fantasy you just can't do it for money that makes sense because they don't want you incentivized absolutely absolutely because i mean you you got the inside scoop if you really want to do it you know like i'm about to have two touchdowns today i already have the script like i'm ready to go so yeah there's some interesting fantasy bets on up have you used polymark yet no i have not i've heard a lot i've seen a lot of friends with the electronics.

Yeah, let's go through some of these because you play fantasy.

Who do you think the top fantasy running back will be at the end of the season?

Oh, that's a tough one.

That is a tough one.

My bad.

I'm trying to remember.

Yeah, you're all in the top five.

I mean, you...

You're talking about the go-line and the touchdowns because I want to go for a receiving back, but I think I have to go with Derrick Henry, like just because, you know, he's up there.

He's always getting those goal line touches.

I mean, Lamar Jackson them, but I mean, you can't sleep on David Montgomery and Jamar Gibbs.

Like, them boys are going.

You're talking about 50 points a game, and they're, you know, sharing two touchdowns, two touchdowns a game.

So, like, I think it's going to be one of those three.

Okay.

I'm putting the hat on Derrick Henry, though.

Good picks.

Derrick Henry is third on Polymark right now, 18% chance.

Oh, my gosh.

I know everybody wants to say Saquon.

I know it.

Saquon's number one.

My gut right now is like, bro, you're going to get slapped in the face later because Saquon's going to be number one.

I have Saquon in all my fantasies but for some reason i just i don't know he just gets weeded out of game sometimes where derrick henry when they get in the red zone he's getting the ball i feel you know so as a gives fan losing saquan was really heartbreaking for me

and you lost him like right like next door like you could have just sent them anywhere else i mean they didn't want to pay him that's unfortunate a lot of people didn't want to play running backs this this past year i mean the cowboys had an opportunity to go get derrick henry for eight million bucks and just was like no we're gonna go get that was too much eight million i mean that's all he was pretty that's what he got paid for Baltimore for, I think, was a one-year deal.

That's a steal.

I mean, not many backs got paid.

I mean, Austin Eckler got two years for $5 million.

Like, he's having a year, you know, with Washington and Jaden Daniels and them over there.

But yeah, that was

not a terrible year for running backs, but I mean, you've seen all the complaints like they were because you imagined it.

Absolutely.

So I hope after this, you know, this year and next year, like all these running backs can get paid because they're doing what they're supposed to be doing.

It's just different teams.

And you see Saquon balling out.

Derrick Henry balling out.

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Some Eckler balling out, like even J.K.

Dobbins, who left the

Nothing against Dak, but I mean, you can't, you know, injuries are invettable, but inevitable.

But

yeah, it's just a tough sport.

We all know it's 100% injury proof.

So it's hard to get out there and do it week in and week out with 18 weeks of football, you know.

It is pretty nuts because they used to be one of the highest paid positions, right?

Absolutely.

absolutely i'm one of them you know for sure so i mean the market is going to continue to grow these backs are getting you know bigger and better and i think the best way to to handle it now is you see detroit they have you know sonic and knuckles over there as they call themselves yeah every team has a one and two and i think that's the way you carry yourself i mean unless you have a Christian McCaffrey.

I mean, that's the only way you let that, you know, horse go.

But I mean, even then, like, you, we saw when he got hurt.

He got hurt.

Jordan Mason was out there balling.

Like, we almost forgot about Christian McCaffrey like that.

but it's good to see like these NFL players that are backups getting the recognition that they truly deserve because they're ballers as well.

Absolutely.

You miss playing?

Absolutely.

Every day.

Play flagging these days.

I think I'm going to be, I usually one time a year put the cleats on and play on Turkey Day.

So that's always fun.

We go right here at All American Park and play.

So just get out there and play some linebacker receiver like the old days.

Get that fill in, that urge, that competitive spirit out there.

I love it.

Yeah, I bet.

That must be tough for athletes to just hang it up all of a sudden.

Man, Man, especially when it's unexpected and you don't even know when it's going to, you know, be that time, it's, it's, it's a blessing when you can actually like, you know what?

Like Kenyon Drake, Marshawn Lynch, like, oh, you know what?

I'm, I'm done.

Like, I'm going to hang it up.

So that's, that, that's the blessing.

When you don't know when that, that, that time is, it's kind of hard.

Yeah, for football, that's common, right?

Average career is what, two and a half years in football?

Absolutely.

I want to say it was after my rookie contract, like ended up trying out for a couple of teams and then just stopped receiving phone calls.

And at that moment, you know, after a year and a half of just training and just, you know, hoping to get that call, you don't receive that call.

And it's like, okay, what do I do next?

Like, do I keep training and figuring out like when I can go play again?

Or do you go figure out, do you go get a job somewhere?

Like at that moment, I, you know, was sitting in my garage.

I'm like, well, let me text Blake.

Let me text, you know, all these NFL coaches.

And at the time, we started, you know, Enclave and Key.

And, you know, it was just, you know, getting off the ground.

I'm like, you know what?

I'm going to go into coaching, continue to, you know, get in that sport and, you know, grow in that aspect.

I ended up coaching at USC and then went to the New York Jets right after that and it was like you know what like I really want to join my best friend and you know my partner today Blake Wynn and you know grow something special I love it and the rest is history is the history this thing you're doing with CPT is gonna revolutionize poker it already has I think but absolutely I mean it's it's it's we just want to grow together you know this poker community has you know just tried to find that that spirit that energetic you know side of it and that's what we want to bring to the table we wasn't trying to change it at all you know sometimes it's like okay like it's new are they trying to take it over are they trying to be w hustle?

I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, guys.

Like, we're just trying to bring people that aren't professionals in a room to learn how to play poker.

And you can also bring your personality.

Like, I'm not sitting at the table like, all right, I have seven outs with 27.

Well, I don't even know any of that information.

My gut says vote or my gut says call.

And sometimes I'm right, sometimes they're wrong, but I think that's the fun in it.

You're drawing the sport because each each player today has millions of fans.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

And I mean, credit to them because without them, you know, this, this, this, you know, seven successful tournaments does not not happen without them, without the fan base that, you know, continue to watch every tournament.

So my credit is always out to them because that's the reason, you know, the sport is continuing to grow.

Absolutely.

I saw you were a track runner on your Wikipedia.

Oh, snap.

You're bringing it out the Spark.

That's right.

I got a fun question for you.

Oh, let's hear it.

So, do you know I show speed?

Oh, yes, I do.

Could you beat him in a 100-meter race?

Absolutely not.

That kid is fast.

I've actually seen that.

I give credit where credit is due.

I do, you know, step in when I see like the Tyreek Hill and the Noah Lowes and all that.

But no, I'm not beating, you know, I am at Showtime speed.

What was your event when you were a runner?

Just a hundred meter.

I mean, I did it as the third sport.

You know, I went from football to basketball and then I did not want to just fall out of shape.

I was just like, I guess it's track.

I'm not going to go play baseball.

Like, I'm going to just go out there and run some track.

I usually just do it to stay in shape.

And, you know, I get out there in a 100-meter and I'm getting dusted.

Like, I'm playing against, or I'm running against, you know, the black mamba who was at Oregon, De Anthony Thomas.

I'm running against George Farmer, who's, you know, they were running 10 sixes sixes and 10 fives.

Yeah, in high school, that's fast.

Like these guys were the fastest people in our, like Robert Woods, Marquise Lee, like track stars.

Like I'm the same size that I was when I was, you know, a sophomore track runner at 220 pounds.

Like I'm running 11 flat as a PR, you know, personal best, like at the end of the day.

So like I'm just doing it for conditioning.

I feel that.

Do you think speed can run faster than an 11?

I mean, I'm not running 11 probably right now.

Like if he wants to get a 40, like I might get get out of him.

You might get him.

My start, my get off is extremely fast.

Now, when you're talking about a turnover, like, I think that's where he can probably carry to the 100 and beat me, but maybe 40, I can definitely get him.

He shocked me against Noah Lyles.

He kept up with him.

He for sure did.

That was surprising.

I don't know if Noah was, you know, really going, but I mean, it's, it's still pretty impressive to see a lot of these individuals out there.

I mean, they're, they're young and getting it.

Absolutely.

Yeah, Noah probably didn't want to get injured, honestly.

For sure.

I mean, I've even seen, I don't know if it was ISHO Speed, but

it was a guy going against Sauce Gardner, and he was, you know, playing one-on-ones and sauce was guarding him and then he ended up taking him over the top and catching the ball but yeah sauce had a a full jeans sweat like suit on like playing 50 i'm like all right bro like you don't really want to do this i even see tyree kill getting burnt by his own kids at the camp i don't know how serious it is but i'm like all right bro like these kids are you know sauce everything's on video these days yeah but it's awesome you know it's good for the kids it's good for everybody watching like i think it's aspiration inspiration to be able to see people to go out there and just play football run around like you know promote you know a healthy lifestyle just get outside and have fun.

Get off the phone, get off the game.

I know gaming is big, but, you know, just get outside sometimes.

Yeah, I love those one-on-one destroying football videos.

Yeah, I think it probably been destroyed.

Those are dope.

I don't even watch football, but I'd rather watch that than like a game, honestly.

Absolutely.

No, I absolutely agree.

Like, football is like...

It's a slow game, let's be honest, like watching it.

Yeah, like you only, you know, want to watch when something exciting happened or those tight games or, you know, big time rivalries like, you know, we just had with Buffalo and Kansas City when you see two future Hall of Fame quarterbacks out there.

It's like, oh, snap, like, this is going to the wire.

Oh, it's fourth and three game on the line.

And then Josh Allen just runs and knocks off and scores.

I'm like, oh, wow, like this is, this is what you call entertainment.

Yeah, you know, like, that's for sure.

You probably watch it from a different lens because you can understand the intricacies of the game.

Absolutely.

But the average person's like not understanding any of that.

So I try and get like out of so much strategic just because I can like watch him like, okay, that's a run.

I know this is going to be cover three.

Like, knowing it that far is just like, it's like, you know, when people play poker, and when I talk to Rampage and Wolfgang and some of these poker posts, I'm like, bro, have you ever got back to the poker table and just played like when you first learned how to play?

Like just playing random hands, trying to, you know.

get lucky and hit the river like do you ever get back to that he's like sometimes but you know you you kind of don't want to fall in that trap because you play you know for cash so often you obviously that's assured you know your livelihood your career so i'm like i understand that well shoot i hope i never lose the the fun aspect yes money is money and when you lose it but at the end of the day i i treat poker as you know you got nine individuals at your table like these are the relationships that we're going to build, you know, sitting next to, you know, yourself.

You also sit next to AP, who I've never met, but looked at him as a GOAT.

You also got Bryce Hall and, you know, all these big-time influencers next to you.

Like, that's the relationships you get to, you know, create in 72 others.

Absolutely.

Who's the best poker player you've played against?

Oh, wow.

I would have to say Blake.

Really?

He's that good?

To me, he is.

I mean, whether he's playing tonight, right?

No, he's not going to play tonight.

You know, that's commish.

He's going to, he's going to stay out of it.

But no, like, he's the one that, you know, taught me how to play.

We used to play, you know, at the home games for, you know, very, very low stakes.

And I mean, just trying to read him and figure him out because I think that's where my game is.

Like, I'm very energetic and, you know, just trying to get people's personality up and out and talking.

And then you see all of a sudden somebody gets quiet.

It's like, okay, they probably have a strong hand right now.

Like, Blake is the same person as you already probably know, Blake, all the time.

And it's like, I can't get a read on him.

I think he has, you know, trips or, you know, something right here.

And he's like, oh, nope, he was bluffing.

Like, he'll get me.

And I'm like, oh, my gosh.

Those are the same.

Absolutely.

you can't read them.

I'm giving a trophy to Blake.

I know everybody, you know, says, like, you know, the red pages and whoop cakes, but I'm gonna go with my best friend.

What about hoops?

I know we talk hoops a lot.

Who's the best basketball player you played against?

Oh, my gosh.

I mean, I playing at 24 in Summerlin, like, you get a lot of like, you know, um, um, overseas players coming there.

Like, I don't, I don't never know their names, but I'm in there.

I'm like, bro, this dude's cold, they're jumping through the gym, like, they're shooting from like once they cross out of court, they're pulling.

I'm like, all right, like, and they're all your height, you know, that, but they're true.

No, they're in the league.

I'm in the news, they're nice.

I'm like, bro, 6'5, 230, like, and he's a Ford.

Like, and I'm trying to guard him at 6'feet, 220 football player.

Like, I'm like, okay, like, me putting my hand up in your face is just like looking like, oh no, you know, some of these hoopers are playing against, like, Wembley and

KD.

Like, that's literally how I look at them.

Like, I can't stop this guy.

Like, I don't know.

Bro, Wemby is different.

I saw a video of him standing.

He was facing the hoop and he turned around midair and blocked the shot.

Yeah.

It was nuts.

Like, just running and just got it out there.

Yeah, like he looked behind his shoulder.

It was amazing.

I mean, even when he shoots the ball, like the ball sits like in his palm, like his hands is still like free.

And I'm like,

like the Avatar player bounce ball, but no, he's changing the game.

I mean, we all seen it when KD came in the league.

It was like, all right, like, this is what it's going to go to.

Even with Giannis, like, we knew this is what's going to go to.

Like, we love the Kyrie's.

We love the James Hardens.

Like, that was, you know, the game we would watch.

You know, the Russell Westbrooks, like these small explosive guards that can go, you know, in the end, dunk on you, shoot a three in your face.

Like now, you're getting the Giannises, you're getting, you know, the KD, the more polished KDs with Victor.

And I'm, shoot,

I'm sure, you know, in the future it's going to be even crazier.

You know, Cooper flags, a freshman, you know, all American in the making over there at

Duke.

And, I mean, even, yeah, it's just a lot of talent coming out.

They're different.

Like, these kids can score from anywhere.

It's really impressive.

Are you on this Dalton Connect bandwagon?

I'm on the Laker bandwagon.

I haven't jumped on Dalton yet.

I just have to continue to watch.

I mean,

I'm just a fan.

I want to win.

That's all I truly care about when it comes to the Lakers.

I mean, you got to, not even you have to support him.

Like, I'm going to support him until he doesn't do what he has to do.

But I'm always a Laker fan.

I'd love to see Bron get one more.

For sure.

I mean, I hope he has one more in him.

You know, that age is very serious, as we saw with Tyson out there trying to fight Jake Paul.

But he's still out there dropping 30-something points.

AD's out there know, complimenting the game really well.

I mean, you got

to be this season.

Yeah, I mean, I mean, you already know, like, it starts off like that.

And then, again, you got to play 80 plus games.

Like, you know, like, that's that's exhausting.

You're playing every other day.

You on a plane every night.

Like, I've never been an NBA player, but just hearing it exhausting.

Cause, you know, just playing in the NFL, like you practice from Monday to Thursday and you take off on a flight on Friday.

You hang out on Saturday.

You play that game on Sunday.

And right after the game, you get on the flight and come back home.

And then you do it week in and week out.

And mind you, you may play on Sunday, and then guess what?

You got to fly out on Wednesday for a game on Thursday night football.

So that's where it's like, oh, snap, like I, and that's, you know, hitting every single play.

And I'm like, wow, like, I could imagine playing 80 of these.

Like, that would be exhausting, even with baseball.

So baseball's even worse.

Exactly.

And I'm like,

so credit to, you know, everybody's sport because there's always, you know, something that, you know, is a, you know, a plus and a minus.

And, you know, everybody has it.

But I give them credit.

A lot of injuries in basketball this season already.

I mean, I saw a list.

There's like 10 people that are out for like a month plus already.

I mean, I'm surprised with the

what you call it, the Cavs.

They're undefeated.

I'm surprised.

They just lost last night.

Oh, they did?

Oh, snap.

I went to watch their games.

I'm like, Rob, I always see highlights of sports.

15-0, though.

That was impressive.

That was impressive.

I mean, from a team that you probably couldn't even.

If you probably bet that, like, they were going to go 15-0 at the start of the season.

You would have been cashing.

Like, yeah, you would have been cashing out billionaire.

That's impressive to see a lot of these teams do it because you know it's competitive.

That's playing basketball at just 24.

You got the best team and lose.

How often do you bet in these days?

Not so often, just because I'm so focused with CBT and making sure we close out this year with a huge bang.

I think my last bet was the Trump stuff.

Oh, you bet on Trump to win?

Yep, absolutely.

That was a lock.

How early was your bet?

Because he was underdog at first.

He was definitely the underdog.

I think I placed my bet in July.

Damn.

So you had conviction in July.

Yeah, so I mean, it wasn't nothing, you know, insane.

Like, I didn't bet, you know, like tens of thousands, like somebody's individual.

It was just, you know, a couple of hundred bucks just to get some skin in the game.

But yeah, that was that's probably been my last bet that I've made.

I'm probably going to make a bet on somebody tonight to win CPT, but I'm trying to keep that under wraps right now.

I got about three people that I want to

parlay, but we're going to thread it a little bit.

I got Nemo tonight.

Really?

Yeah, just because think about it.

She's made the final table every time.

I 100% agree.

She's really good at poker, and you can see, you know, a little bit of her chess strategy.

I know, you know, her and Bote say it doesn't apply to one another, but

you can see it, you know, like

how it does carry over.

Like, yes, I'm a football player, but I, and I go play at 24 to play basketball.

Like, some of that does carry over, whether it's, you know, a little bit of the athleticism, the explosion.

Definitely the competitive nature.

So like, there's definitely some carryovers, but I definitely see, you know, Inemo doing really, really well.

She's at an extremely competitive table with Maria Ho, Rand Page, Wolfgang, Paige Lipinski, Daniel Liman.

Like that's a competitive table.

So like I'm curious to see who comes out of that table because that's the person that, like you said, is going to be final table.

You can't get all of them.

Like Enemo's sitting and Botez is at that table.

So

that's a stack table.

So like you're talking about a bunch of poker pros,

a couple of people that you know are, you know, Bonnie and Clyde, like, which is Paige is Daniel.

Like they play poker poker sometimes.

Like, I'm gonna see what happens.

Like, the cards are gonna be the cards.

You can only bluff so much, and you already know when the blinds increase, it's like, okay, like, I don't even have enough money.

I'll see what happens.

I remember, like, halfway through, like, 10 people got knocked out in like five minutes once the blinds went up.

Because you got at some point, you got to just like, you don't even have enough to play a blind, so you just got to go all in.

And it's like five people go all in.

It's okay, Ace King, Jack three, four or five, and then four, five hits the straight.

Like,

how does that happen?

That's how it happens, man.

But that's awesome.

Poker is an unforgiving sport, you know?

For sure, for sure.

I mean, I think that's the fun in it.

It's just like when we play, you know, basketball, football, when things go our way, we're ecstatic.

When it don't, like, I still think you should be ecstatic, you know, like it's like dropping 50 points and you lose.

What can you say?

Like, you're sweet, yeah.

Absolutely.

So, that's opportunity.

Like, I have the best hand, but I lost to you know, somebody other dog.

And sometimes you're on the other side of that, right?

But that's why you got to respect both sides of it.

Yeah, that's the beauty of the game, man.

Who's your favorite poker player?

Oh, my gosh.

I've, it's crazy because like Blake, like hanging around with Blake and Mark and all these individuals, you know, just learning poker.

Cause I, just like me and you, like, we learned how to play poker about nine, ten months ago.

Like, that's when I learned.

And I've never, you know, watched any of these YouTubers.

I didn't even know who

Phil Helmuth was until the day he came in here.

I'm like, who is this giant individual that walked in?

I thought he played basketball.

And it was like, bro, that's Phil Helmuth, like one of the best poker players in the world.

Oh, like that's, I guess that shows how much knowledge I have.

Just like he walked in, but didn't know who Keenan Allen was.

Yeah, that that was fun to tell oh you play for the chargers like oh that's awesome same with austin eckler so i would think just from you know how people

uh talk about this individual and you know what i've seen of him like phil ivey is probably you know one of my favorites him and daniel uh negranu um just from the standpoint i don't know like i just love how charismatic they are their character when they're you know sitting at the table phil seems i mean not phil uh yeah phil ivey seems like he's very low-key um doesn't really care about you know all the press clippings he's just out there you know, doing his thing, which, you know, I really love.

And then you have Daniel doing his thing as well.

He's very, you know, talkative, energetic.

And that's how I like to play poker.

So like, I think that's where I gravitate a little bit more.

So those two are probably my favorite poker players.

I love that moment.

I'd love to see them play here one of these days.

Daniel Lynch.

That's the goal.

So if we can, you know, we would love to, you know, have.

Shoot, these are the top individuals in poker.

Like, why not have them, you know, into CPT?

You know, Daniel, Phil,

Phil, Helmuth.

I mean, shoot, Maria Hoe is in here today.

And everybody else, like, you know, let's just get them in here.

And I think that will continue to grow poker as a whole.

Yeah, it'd be cool.

I get sometimes the images involved.

You know, you get knocked out by a rookie, but again,

it's not professional poker because we've set it up with the blinds and everybody that doesn't know how to play and do know how to play or barely knows how to play.

Like, it screws up.

Like, you're trying to calculate odds and percentages and outs, and this person don't even know what they have.

You know, it's like, oh, like, I think I lost.

Nobody, you have, you know, a royal flush.

Like, you know, like, it's funny.

We had a table last time, like, just flips over, like, oh, I have a flush.

Like, no, you have a straight flush.

And we've seen our first straight flush in CBT, you know, last tournament.

Somebody had the nut flush versus the straight flush.

And we just like, oh my gosh.

But the person that had the straight flush didn't even know.

Dude, I'm like, luckily he turned it over because if you would have threw it in, you know, that's a muck.

That's a forfeit.

But he turned it over.

He's like, yeah, I lost.

I thought I had something.

And nope, he had something.

So you have those elements.

And I hope, you know, Phil and Daniel and him don't get pissed off at stuff like that.

Like, it's just like, wow, like it hurts.

But it's like, bro, that's kind of funny that that actually happened.

It takes you back to the home games when you first learned how to play poker.

And that's what I never want to forget.

You know, just like when we play basketball, like.

you play it because it's fun like when we go to the nba and nfl like it gets very business oriented like we're gonna do it this way we're gonna do it that way like no like if you take it back when you're a kid you're gonna go out there and ball out right that's when that's why somebody like some of these teams are like balling out like you can see they're having fun doing it when you're having fun like you can't beat it absolutely like the knicks last year last season yeah they were all friends you're just like bro this is awesome like they look like they were playing in the backyard like every single game i'm like oh my god and they didn't have the most talent exactly and like that's what even boston started to look like they just stopped caring about not that they cared about ego like it's just like they're just playing basketball right jalen brown tatum porsinga uh drew i'm like wow this team is impressive they were flowing well it's old school lakers with like ory Derrick Fisher, Kobe.

Like, I'm like, oh my, I've seen this before.

I'm like, yeah, they can't be stopped.

Absolutely.

They're not going to lose.

Did you see ego get in the way of sports for you with certain teammates and coaches and stuff?

Absolutely.

I mean, different teams have different, you know, personalities.

And you're talking about a football team of 53 individuals from, you know, the highest paid individual, maybe being a quarterback or a DN or receiver, all the way down to somebody that's, you know, a rookie making $400,000.

So.

You see it from top to bottom, but I think that's where you give a lot of credit credit to the leadership in the building.

When I was in Jacksonville, you had guys like Kalaeus Campbell, you had Paul Puzlusny making sure the group stayed tight, no matter what each individual made.

And I mean, even at times, you see like, hey, I got a $90 million contract, but...

Hey, we're going to spend X amount of money on, you know, making sure all the players get Chick-fil-A before every single game.

And they would pull that from their own checks.

And it was like, wow, like, that's awesome.

I mean, you see it all around sports now, like even Showtime with the Dodgers.

He was like, take a piece of my check and go get good players.

Whoa.

And I'm like, why why don't teams do this all the time?

Like, I get it, you about your money, but if, like, if I'm sitting in LeBron's seat, I'm like, bro, take about $50 million from me or $100, whatever the number is.

Like, I have so much money at a point in time.

Like, take a little bit of this money and let's go build a championship team.

Like, go get a bunch of ballers.

I'm not saying, like, you know, he did offer that last season, actually, I remember.

Yeah, and then took a max contract.

Like,

find anyone.

Yeah, I mean, you can go, you can go find somebody if you, like, you're a Laker.

Like, you know, like, like, that organization can go get anybody they want it's like the dodgers it's just like the yankees like it's just like the cowboys like these are like america's teams you're talking about like in the biggest markets like you can go get these players if you wanted to yeah it may cost you a little bit of extra but you got a player willing to give you that you know right to to do so so I mean, to each his own, like, I'm that type of player where I'm like, hey, if I got to take a pay cut to create a dream team around me, like, I'm down for it.

Cause like, that's going to just bring in so many more banners, bring me so much more money from, you know, on the court, off the court.

Like, I think you like how you look at yourself and the people around you, like that's, you know, your network, which is, you know, your best work.

So that's how I like to follow it.

Yeah, two things on that.

The off-the-court money, if you play it right, is more than the on-court money.

You're seeing it with Tom Brady and a few other players investing into all these sports.

No, absolutely.

Yeah.

Secondly, Jalen Brunson, when he took that pay cut, he got a lot of hate.

What did you think about that?

I don't think that's fair.

And I don't even think I've heard that hate.

Like, can you brief me on it?

Or just like, why would he take?

Because it was a huge pay cut.

It wasn't like a couple million.

I i don't know the exact numbers but it was tens of millions i believe and people are like why would you do this it's not even a guaranteed chance of winning a championship

yeah i don't understand why people would hate somebody that wants to purely win a championship for the city that he's in like i don't i don't see what the hate is yeah you're not you know the top 10 player that's i guess the highest paid player in that position because you took this pay cut but Why is everybody worrying about my personal financial issues?

Like we, for some reason, when we talk now, like out in the world, we can't talk about financials, but yet mine is public and you feel like you have, you know, a two-see to be able to come in it.

So like, I would say like

block out the haters, which I'm sure he's done.

It's like, bro, like, my objective is to win a championship for New York.

Like,

that's been the goal since day one, and I still believe it.

And if management believes it, like, take, take this money.

Like, let's go figure out how to do it.

And I give credit to him because I didn't even know that until you just told me.

He was a ton, like commentators all over Twitter.

Yeah, it was a lot.

I mean, yeah, it's it's a tough topic, but bro, they're making so much money.

Like, imagine, like, we, what's a, what's an average baseball salary, like, 50 million a year?

Like, yeah, bro, like, if you didn't pay me for a year, like, you think that's gonna hurt after I just made 50 last year?

Like, especially if you manage your money correctly, like, you're talking about money that just you can retire after that, you know, uh, contract.

And theirs is like eight, nine years, right, for baseball.

So, like, I don't know.

Like, I don't think players should be getting hate you know for trying to you know win a championship for the city that you know they're playing for like i think that's always a goal in in any profession we're talking about like you want to win the championship the super bowl the world cup like that's the goal um so yeah i don't i don't agree with the hate towards the players yeah i thought you're a commentator whether you're you know a fan like it would just be wild to me to hear a fan say that like oh my gosh you took a pay cut to try and win a championship it just sounds weird as you know as i'm saying it right now like it's it's wild yeah because sometimes if like one or two guys are taking up 80% of the salary, it could hurt the team, right?

Absolutely.

Like that's that, that's old school basketball where two people get paid and you just fill the roster with the rest of the people.

Like,

why not get five like elite starters?

Shoot, maybe it's stretched to six.

Like you can have six men of the year.

Like, you know, like, I think that's the best team, especially if you take out ego.

Like, why wouldn't you do that?

Yeah, I mean, you're seeing it with teams right now.

One through five is all solid players that could get 15, 20 a game.

That seems to do that.

That's the best.

You like when one player can get you, you know, 40, 50, you know, every once in a while, like, you know, every 10 or so games, but it's like

you got to be figuring out a way to be consistent.

That's every sport.

If you're not consistent, you're not even going to make the playoffs.

And if you're not consistent in the playoffs, you're not going to win the whole thing because you got to win four out of the seven games to be able to go to the thing.

Like, yeah, you can drop 40 game one, probably 15 game two and win, but shoot, if you drop eight the next game, like that other team gets that momentum.

And if they can keep grabbing five people that drops 15 sometimes 25 and you know like those are the teams that win consistent yeah these days you need a bench too yeah absolutely because everybody got to sit down like you know like because you can't go round one seven game series round two seven game series after you just played 90 plus games during the season and now you're going to go play an extra you know what 28 to you know 30 something games like that's a lot on the body especially when you're trying to peak in the the finals you know like that's what you're essentially trying to do you're trying to you know, treat it like it's a stock.

So when you get to the finals, like, I'm peaking at this time.

Like, that's how all the sports is.

Yep.

I know it's early in the season, 15 games in, but there is a polymarket futures bet on who do you think is going to win the title this season.

Who do you got right now?

Boston.

They're actually the favorite.

So that's like that's a team that you just, you, you can't, you, you,

I don't, I don't see a missing spot in that team.

You know, like, you like with Jalen Brown, Tatum, Porsinga,

Drew I mean bro like Derek White even

what's it what's the old-time

Horford like he's popping threes like like he's Tatum in them he's not even playing center anymore I'm like bro how do you beat this team and that coach is like zero to nine I forgot his name but yeah he's one of my favorite coaches in the NBA like he gets that group going like you can tell like they're playing basketball with egoless you know opportunity out there and when you see that like I mean as an athlete I'm sure you see that as well like it's it's refreshing to see because you know, you can see some guys where it's like, oh, pass that individual the ball, and you just watch that individual all game.

Nothing against like guys like, you know, Luca when he didn't have Kyrie and Clay now.

Like, it was impressing to see him drop 50 points a game, but I'm like, he's not going to go anywhere, like, because he's the only one scoring.

There's nobody else on the team.

Now, when you see Kyrie, it's like, okay,

you got Luca dropping 25, Kyrie dropping 25, and shoot, if you get Klay dropping 25, like, oh, that's 75 points right there.

You got a chance.

You know, like, so, so like teams are starting to realize like everybody's following suit like you just have to do it like it's it's it's it's the pattern and you you want to be on the forefront of that you know when you see it like as a gm as a head coach like but some people are stuck in their old ways and you know that ego is a problem

to any aspect in in life yeah we'll see if you're right man they got 25 chance right now so yeah well i'm going boston that's and i hate boston i mean as a laker fan i hate it but i genuinely love the basketball that they're playing.

Yeah, it's hard to beat.

Well, dude, it's been cool.

Where can people keep up with you?

Yeah, appreciate you.

I mean, shoot, I'm Pilard on Instagram.

You know, I'm always going to be in the forefront of celebrity pupa tour.

Shoot, tune in tonight and shoot, we're going to have some fun.

Yes, sir.

Keep you in tune, guys.

Peace.

Yep.