The Truth About Making $1M/Month on Social Media | Marquis Trill DSH #945

Travel, watch what you say, watch what you say on these podcasts, because the Fed's watching, the FBI's watching.

That's why you gotta watch what you say.

Yes, sir.

But he was responsible for a lot of big celebrities losing their accounts, paying 5K to get it back.

And he was running a whole, you know, scheme with that.

That's crazy.

Crazy.

I'm all ethical over here.

That's the thing, right?

One thing I learned about making money is if you make it unethically, you're going to lose it.

All right, guys.

First pod in 10 years.

Marquise Troll.

Thanks for coming on, man.

What's up, man?

How you doing?

Good.

Brought him out of retirement.

Brought me out of retirement for sure.

You've been low-key.

Super low-key.

With social media and everything that's going on.

And just everybody exposing everything pretty much.

I was just kind of trying to stay out the way, you know?

What made you step back so long ago?

Because I feel like

you were really big 10 years ago posting every day, right?

Yeah, every day.

I was loving social media.

But just when Facebook meta in general just started suppressing the content where you weren't being seen by everyone in the whole entire world, and they kind of like put everybody in a box.

That's when I was like, nah, I can't.

I feel that I can't produce this every single day.

Yeah, because I can't.

Now you only hit like 5% of your followers.

Not even.

Not even.

Maybe one, maybe two.

Dude, my story views.

I'm sure like the non-followers, right?

It was like.

I get more views from non-followers than followers on my reels.

Exactly.

Isn't that crazy?

It's insane.

That's why I just stopped in general.

And then the whole crypto thing happened and I kind of like went into a rabbit hole with you.

You caught that wave?

I definitely caught that wave.

So when did you get in crypto?

2017.

Oh, so that was the second wave, right?

Yes.

And right after Super Bowl, I put a certain amount of money in Bitcoin because of my friend told me to.

I didn't want to put it in the bank.

And a couple months later, he was like, yo, go check your account.

I was like, all right, cool.

I checked it.

I didn't know how to get it out, though.

That was the crazy part.

And the only thing he told me was do your own research.

Did my own research.

I tried to transfer the Bitcoin to these

wallets.

Yeah.

And then from the wallets, I put them on the exchange.

And that's when I found out about Binance.

Once I found out about Binance, it was pretty much a wrap after that.

You started trading altcoins?

I didn't know about all coins.

I was like, altcoins, two cents, three cents.

Oh, no.

That's how you make 25.50x.

It was over after that.

So I've just been chilling low-key.

I haven't really been doing anything except for just helping people out.

The people knowing what I do behind the scenes.

I feel that.

What's been like on you mentally, just having all this money, not knowing kind of where to go from there?

Personally, it's just like being one with self, trying not to, you know, fall out of the loop.

You see a lot of people purchasing things and buying things.

When you purchase and buy things, things get notified, you get red flagged, you c have more enemies.

People are watching you more.

I just try to stay, you know, I learn from people's mistakes.

Watching social media, you see how people, things happen to people.

Oh, yeah.

So I just try not to let that happen to me.

100%.

You flex a a little too hard you flex too hard the government's gonna get you or somebody's gonna get you oh yeah and you you put more eyeballs on your profile whether that's girls whether that's guys hating on you whether that's people that grew up with you yep

you know i'll never flex again i i made that mistake in la flex 100k cash on my instagram story next day whole gang's at my apartment yeah don't yeah i'll never you learn though you learned yeah i'm never doing that again yeah it was so dumb too i was thinking like when i came up to the pod i was like yo i'm gonna wear chains i'm not gonna wear chains i'm gonna wear earrings.

I'm not going to wear it.

For the culture?

For just, like, not for the culture?

I was just like, no, I'm not going to.

Yeah, I don't even wear any of my watches on the pod or anything.

Yeah.

Because you never know.

You never know.

Because we're here now.

And there's no telling IPs.

Anytime you're in a major city, you got to kind of, especially L.A.

or Miami.

Just be aware.

These places are not

the place to play around.

Absolutely.

That's why you're on the nomad lifestyle right now.

Nomad lifestyle.

Traveling, living my best life, traveling to different countries, meeting new people, staying in places for months at a time,

giving back to the locals.

Nice.

That's pretty much what I'm doing right now, other than social media tech stuff.

Yeah.

You're

going to TikTok next week, you said?

Yeah, going to TikTok next week.

They've deleted a couple of my clients' accounts.

Damn.

So it's like.

What was the reason?

What's the deal?

There's no reason.

It's just targeting.

My clients are pretty popular.

So just them being targeted, getting deleted over and over, us having to pay for it over and over.

So it's like, pretty much we need a rep

from our agency.

So just, just, hey, who's the rep?

Who's going to help?

And we need to get this fixed.

That's the whole business model.

People deleting accounts and then you have to pay the same guy to get it back.

The same guy.

Did you see someone got arrested by the FBI doing that in Vegas a month ago?

No, no.

Tell me about it.

Oh, what's his name, dude?

You don't have to tell me the name just too.

No, so he went on Adam 22's podcast and was talking about his business.

And then the next week he got arrested by the FBI.

That's why

these podcasts get you in trouble.

Watch what you say.

Watch what you say on these podcasts because the feds is watching.

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watching fbi's watching that's why you gotta watch what you say yes sir but he was responsible for a lot of big celebrities losing their accounts paying 5k to get it back and he was running a whole you know scheme with that that's crazy crazy i'm all ethical over here that's the thing right one thing i learned about making money is if you make it unethically you're gonna lose it you know what i mean

i don't know any scammers that long term they're just there's no such thing as a long term yeah that's what i'm trying to tell people it's like people like oh you're a scammer you don't you don't post anything you don't do anything.

You don't show us what you're doing or how you're making your money.

We see you living.

We see you look good.

You've been on social media for a long time, but what do you actually do?

It's like,

that's how you're supposed to live it.

You know what I mean?

Like, unless you're an NBA player, but you don't know NBA players' personal lives unless they showcase it.

I think a lot of people don't understand that the richest people in the world are not on Forbes.

You know what I mean?

They're not.

They don't even have social media.

They have no social media.

You don't know what their personal kinks or lifestyle or what they're doing on a day-to-day basis.

So it's just, it's just from

understanding life and people, I think it's just best.

It's just kind of like stay under the radar.

Yeah.

You know?

Yeah.

You're low-key, but you got some notable followers.

Right.

You got the top celebrities in the world and billionaires following you.

Right.

I've been doing this for a long time.

Like, I've, what everybody's doing right now, the whole,

I wouldn't say podcasting, but just in general, just being on social media, posting, giving educational knowledge and saying, follow me for more.

And these are the best 10 websites, AI.

like I've I've I did that long time ago right you know what I mean and I'm still doing it but just on a lower profile when I meet people person to person I say hey I can help you with this I try not to put it on social media too much because everyone's doing it so it's like if I started now I would kind of like look like the copy kind of cocky yeah when I'm really really the original person doing it even when social media back when meta was giving me certain like

authorizations for my account because my account was so big they were allowing me they they did all the test fronts on my account so the whole comment top comment like i was the first person to do the oh yeah uh feature wow and i actually used it on all the celebrities in shade room and all that stuff so i was getting followers doing that so i i would do that first i would say something serious at first and then i found out oh this got me more engagement when i said something funny or i said something relatable or i said something encouraging people And then I started getting more followers and followers.

But then you have like the hater side of the thing where people would be like, oh, he's just coming in just to be commenting or he's just saying this just to be saying it don't follow him and then some people would block me and stuff so i got a lot of people that have blocked me from doing that but i was also like one of if not the first person doing that so a lot of people know me from just comment yeah that was a big update when the verified comments showed up first that was a big deal it was crazy you could gain so many followers it's now everyone's doing it everyone when everybody was hating on me because i was the first person to get the feature yeah then everybody got it now everybody does it so i don't even do it no it's done it's done now that that feature is it's done yeah so it's no point you see this latest one with the close friend story close friend story

that's nuts i was like

well i don't know where they're going where with what i'm too scared to use it on my account but people are getting mine is off i just have mine off people are getting 20 extra views though yeah it's nuts and a story watcher or just watch all the stories using their platform that hack i remember that one too yeah it would automatically view stories yeah that still works

yeah damn stories a day i thought they would have updated that one by now

it still really you can do about 100,000, 150,000.

Damn.

That's a lot.

And what percentage of them come to your page, you think?

I'll probably get a couple thousand followers up there.

Oh, wow.

That's pretty good growth, Hawk.

Dude.

This Close Friends one is nuts, dude.

You think so?

Dude, if you have 10 million followers, which you do, right?

You could add all of them to your close friends.

Your story views go up 30x

overnight.

But you gotta do close friends individually.

No, there's an API that adds all your followers.

Okay, we gotta talk about that.

We'll talk about it, yeah.

It's pretty nuts.

A lot of the music labels are using that right now on their artists.

It's not gonna get them more sales, but yeah, it's a good thing.

Get some more views on stories.

I don't even watch feed posts anymore.

No?

No.

I love my trending posts.

Really?

Yeah, I love my explore page.

I'll watch reels just to study what's going viral, but I'm talking about the feed.

Like, I don't know.

It's your feed.

My feed, you follow.

Yeah.

No, I love my explore page.

My explore page is curated to me

like perfectly.

I only do explore page.

Yeah, for sure.

And stories sometimes.

I love stories.

Yeah.

But it's cool seeing what's going viral and seeing where the trends are going.

Yeah, I mean,

I think social media platforms are pushing the trends.

I don't think people are pushing trends.

I think people are watching what's trending and the media companies, these platforms are pushing what's trending.

Really?

And people copy other people that's trending.

You're interested.

I could see that.

You think the people are going viral, but it's really the platform pushing those people.

Well, YouTube definitely does that for certain creators.

They've been doing that for a while.

It's like a little hack.

For sure.

You think other platforms do that, though?

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Wow.

Trying to think on Instagram who they're pushing, but

I don't know.

I feel like YouTube is the worst.

I'm pretty sure you've seen a lot of girls going viral.

They have 20,000 followers, but they'll have a picture that have 30,000 likes.

Oh, like the OF girls?

The OF girls.

And there's some that are not OF.

You know, just as long as you're aesthetically pleasing and guys are liking your account.

within the first 30, 30 minutes, you know, 15 minutes, and people are sending it, that's what they're basically focused on on those platforms.

So, how many sends you're getting and how fast people are liking and commenting on your platform, then that basically triggers the algorithm.

The algorithm,

and it gets it popping.

That makes sense.

But nowadays,

followers, they understand what's going on.

They know most of this is marketing.

They're not even following the stuff that they like anymore.

They're just, oh, thanks for giving me that content.

Swipe.

Hope I see you again.

Swipe.

They're not even following what they like majority of the time.

Right.

So it's a little harder these days yeah it is for sure i've noticed my views are down right now i don't know if it's because of the election or whatever but

i've definitely been shadow banned at some point because i had a few they got the system now where you fix it's all green is yours yellow what do you mean yellow green in the background it'll tell you if your account is shadow banner and what you need to fix what you need to take down oh i have that on tick tock i have three strikes on tick tock but instagram i'm not sure yeah yeah you can see it on the back end oh you can

i'll show you after but yeah certain guests you have on, and then your views are down 80% the next day.

Oh, yeah, okay, so that's yeah, that's something different.

So, uh, AI face recognition, uh, also the person captions, the name that you're of the person that you're using, and oh, even the text?

Oh, yeah, for sure.

Wow.

That's why I tell people when people are messaging me on Instagram via DMs, I tell them don't use certain words.

If they say a certain word, I say delete that.

No way.

They can read DMs.

You serious?

All that, yeah, for sure.

So when I have Tate on the show, because he's coming on, should I even say his name in the caption?

I mean, you know,

I wouldn't say his name, but you know,

you can use some for him and then use some for not him.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Well, the facial recognition is going to pick up on it no matter what, probably.

Damn.

Maybe that's why you wear sunglasses now.

Yeah, suppressing.

You know what I mean?

Holy crap.

That's what it is.

I mean, they have to because they've been getting pressed by a lot of people, getting sued by a lot of people, pushing certain agendas, people having free speech and not free speech.

And we know, not we, but the platforms know what these these people are talking about and if there's something that they don't support then but they they kind of like have to candace owens lost monetization yesterday on youtube did you see that i didn't oh you didn't but i know what's happening right now she got three strikes in one day on youtube that's what happens it's nuts you you licensing is crazy i literally just signed three contracts with three licensing companies um I wouldn't say they extorting me, but

it was sort of like extortion.

So these, it's a little, I'm gonna tell y'all a little something.

So this is how I found out.

So you learn by trial and error and you learn by getting scammed.

The further you go in whatever

system platform you're in, I would say it's best to get scammed and it's best to get in trouble so you can learn the real rules of how this stuff works.

So what I was doing was I was doing the whole faceless YouTube thing, right?

Making thousands of dollars doing faceless YouTube channels.

Bunch, right?

I would buy the

YouTube from a person from India and have like a million subscribers and then I would delete everything switch everything and then start putting AI content in licensing agreements I would take other people's content and post it yeah so then when I was taking other people's content and posting it it was going viral and I was getting paid but then the licensing company that actually own the content will come and say hey

they'll throw a strike on my account and then they'll say hey you need to pay us $500 so you can use this

video video and we'll take the strike off.

And I was like, oh, okay, cool.

Here's 500.

And then I got another strike from another company that owned another piece of content that was on my page.

And it was like, all right, cool.

They were like, we want $700.

I was like, all right, cool.

Cause of course you don't want no strike concern.

Yeah.

So then after I paid them, they hit me up in an email and said, hey, we like the content that you're posting.

We have a whole library that.

you can use if you pay this much a month.

And I'm like, okay, so I could pay $5,000 a month.

They have thousands, hundreds of thousands of videos that they go out and scout on social media platforms, get the person, because this person that went viral in the middle of Kentucky has no following, but the video went viral.

They go and say, hey, we can do a licensing deal and we can get you on shows like Ridiculousness or we can get you on shows, Barstool wants to post you.

So in exchange for clout, we want to license this.

uh video for you if anybody posts it we'll give you a percentage of what we make the person pay

So I'm like, okay, that's that's how they're doing it.

So they're just reaching out to all the people that go viral in the messages.

Hey, we'll, you know, do a partnership with you.

Wow.

And if they don't do the partnership, they'll say, hey, we'll pay you $500 or $200 for the video for licensing.

You still own it, but we want to own it too.

And we just want to go out and get all the people.

And then that's where you see all the ridiculousness.

America's Funny Home videos.

platforms that you go to the bar and you see all the like top funny videos and stuff like that.

That's those companies.

Crazy.

So anybody, like even you could do it, you just pay them 5,000, 2,500, and they'll whitelist your YouTube, your Instagram, your Facebook, and you post the content.

Now, what YouTube did was they changed the rules where you can't just post the content by itself.

You have to be creative.

So, you have to do a review about it.

You have to do a half and half screen.

You have to do a reaction video to make it original.

And once you make it original, then you can monetize.

So, what I'm currently doing with a lot of creators, and I'm just, this is behind the scenes.

Like, Like, when I find something out, it's pretty easy to do.

All you have to do is just put the pieces to the puzzle.

I've reached out to influencers, say, hey, I have a licensing deal.

I'll whitelist all your accounts.

All you have to do is make reviews, reaction videos to these videos from the library that we send you every single month.

Make 30 a month.

We'll split the revenue,

smart, run it up, right?

So, when I found that out, it was it was pretty much game.

I just added another

revenue stream for life, you know.

I saw Jason Dorillo do this.

Were you part of that?

Listen.

Yo, I can't, listen, shout out to Jason Dorillo.

You know what I mean?

But I can't say that.

NDA, NDA, yeah, yeah.

Nah, he was blowing up.

Yeah, that's my guy, man.

We go way back.

You know, I won't talk too much about Jason, but,

you know, before his TikTok journey, we had a little situation going on.

Oh, yeah.

Now he's top town on TikTok, right?

Right before the start.

So shout out to Jason Dorillo, man.

It's cool to see old school artists adapt to social media like that.

You have to.

A lot of them become a lot of people.

Make a following.

All these artists that were, if you're a one-hit wonder, if you had two great albums or you're still trying to, not trying to, you're still living off your career, make a living off your following and monetize it.

They're doing it the wrong way now by just taking sponsorships and just taking dollars to post a crypto or to post a product.

Like.

Not genuinely though.

You can monetize your own following just by using ads, just by posting other people's content just by doing a licensing agreement on your Facebook a popular artist might have two million followers on on Facebook you post content on their Facebook they're getting about sixty thousand to a hundred thousand dollars a month damn just on Facebook ads crazy so

it's a whole different revenue ballgame yeah some of these history pages are huge too huge and they're gonna keep growing because you're posting the content people are seeing the content they're following the page you're monetizing the page the content is coming from from somewhere else and it's just right every single month

same thing that's cool yeah i think snoop dog has like what 50 mil or some shit snoop dog chris brown i don't want to say too many more names but you chris just moved out here he's been hooping with us everybody's moving out here you know vegas is

up top in the hills yeah so Vegas is probably might be the new Hollywood in the future.

I mean, they're moving all the movies here now, too.

It's way cheaper.

Yeah, way cheaper and way better.

As far as living, the cost of living is way better.

It's way more chill.

You get everything that you need, whatever month it's in.

There's some conference, there's some concerts.

There's basketball, there's football.

UFC this weekend.

UFC headquarters is here.

Yep.

It's crazy.

So DraftKings, shout out to DraftKings.

DraftKings is here, too.

They just sponsored the pod.

Shout out to DraftKings.

You know what I'm saying?

So, yeah.

Yeah, these sports betting companies, man.

Jake Ball's.

They're killing them up $6 billion.

Crazy.

From last year.

Jake Ball is killing it with Better.

You got what's that one that sponsors Gilbert Arenas?

I think like Fantasy Underdog or something.

You have fantasy sports picks.

You have

steak.

Steak.

They're coming.

Printing money, man.

They're coming.

Is that a space you're looking into right now?

No, I'm not really into gambling.

Just for the simple fact, I know the statistics on winning and losing.

Oh, yeah.

What percentage of people lose?

Majority of them.

I'd assume so, yeah.

If you're a small better, you're a big loser.

Right.

Just being honest with you.

You put in and you, what's the thing it's called that that they do where you gotta bet on 12 different things oh the spread no no no not the spread called parlay parlay parlay yeah you know how many people do parlays a lot there's groups on facebook and instagram and telegram parlay put in five dollars win 2500 parlay p baby you're gonna win six of those and you only need to lose one to lose all your money yeah so that's what majority i think a person that's what majority of the money is being made on and then these people that are advertising on instagram saying they can help you win yeah but i think it's literally a 50 50-50 chance at the end of the day.

I see those ads on Shaderoom and World Star all the time, the sports betters.

Sports betters.

I'm saying they're making money.

They have to be making money.

They have the house, they have the cars, they have everything.

But the risk to win is like 50-50.

Like if we can go to the casino right now and play any game, you're going to win, but you're going to lose just as much if you keep playing.

Yeah.

The longer you're there, the worse.

Yeah.

So if you're making $2,500 and you're making $3,000 or $10,000,

then what are you going to do?

You're going to bet $5,000 next time or $3,000.

You lose that.

Are you done betting?

All right.

You lose again, you $6,000 in the hole.

You're only profiting.

You probably spent that on rent.

Yep.

I don't sports bet.

I don't gamble or sports bet.

It's not worth it.

You think those World Star shout-outs still work?

I used to buy those like five years ago.

For girls.

Oh, for OF girls.

Yeah, for OF girls.

I'm not for guys or not for artists anymore.

Shout out to WorldStar.

Shout out to Q.

But

yeah, that game is pretty much over.

It's all about Twitter meme pages now.

Yeah, I can't go on Twitter without seeing an ass within a minute, bro.

They're right in the comments.

Boom.

Every comment.

30 seconds, right there.

They must have like a bot because there's definitely a bot or a V Ace.

Yeah, they're their ASAP.

First comment.

It's like, damn.

I wonder if that's actually converting.

You think it is on Twitter?

It's definitely converting.

Really?

Yeah, you know, I have an agency.

So it's definitely converting.

Okay, how's that going?

Because the space got saturated, right?

OF space

or did it not slow down for you?

Like, I heard it got pretty saturated with OF managers and everything.

Girls hopping on.

I wouldn't say saturated.

I would say more people are seeing the opportunity to make it.

So it's still a good opportunity?

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

From the management side, from the girls' perspective, even from the fans' perspective, I just think everyone is growing.

in all their own ethical ways.

You know what I mean?

Like the girls are growing because they're getting seen.

Now they are into marketing, which they weren't into before.

They're growing their pages.

They're following.

They're getting brand deals now.

They're on the OnlyFans.

The OnlyFans is growing.

The management is helping them do every single thing from the Reddits to the Twitters to the dating apps, X, Y, and Z.

And the fan gets the benefit from all of that.

They're getting the content, they're getting to see the girls that they want to see, and they see the marketing, which is going to what they actually like.

There's a lot of people that create small pages so they can see the things that they actually wouldn't follow or like to view on their personal pages, right?

You know, on the back end.

I just had one of the top OF girls on last week.

a million a month dude yeah oh crazy crazy can you believe that i could believe it a million a month i could believe it it's nuts going hard socials social media yeah but there are a lot of there are a lot of girls that don't have social medias that are crushing it really there are a lot of girls that don't show their face that are crushing it faceless of faceless of because it's the the whole perception and the ideology of like who is this person i can't see this person but she's doing this she looks like this and there are a lot of guys that actually like that there's something for everyone on the platform whether it's social media whether it's only fans there's something for someone and they're gonna if you market yourself right you're gonna get that following and if it's a hundred thousand people only if that hundred thousand people know you you have that hundred thousand people audience and whatever you're selling that's your target market

so A lot of people like get a little bit weird when they try to like touch small audiences.

A lot lot of people try to go for the big thing when you can literally kill the small thing and make way more money than you would trying to be big because you're competing with way more creators and people in a bigger audience and a bigger niche.

But the bigger niches pay little crumbs.

Entertainment CPM is like, I think like $1.92, and you're only going to get $1.25 on revenue.

So it's like, but you do finance, you do education, you're going to get $10 to $35.

You do cars, you're going to get $15 per CPM.

So it's like,

why not do that?

But it's not what people are into.

Right.

If you're into money, do things that make money.

But you also, you know, people want to be happy, fake happy.

Yep.

Yeah, the girl doing the middle of the month was doing cars, luxury cars.

That makes sense now.

I didn't know it was 15.

Wow.

Yes, bro.

It's 15.

So not only are you making money on YouTube, not only are people reaching out to you, fly you out to Dubai and all these car meets, and you get to be be with these exclusive exotic cars and do the reviews just like the real estate agents are doing with these 15 million dollar homes all across the country

then you can monetize that from the viewership of the high quality profile clients that follow you to only fans that want your content that's insane marketing absolutely that's that's

have you been in the management game for a while uh two years now oh it's two years yeah so actually

long story short um did a deal with only fans like a long time ago.

They actually reached out to me in 2017.

I knew what the platform was, but I was just like, yo, subscriptions is really hard right now for someone to pay me for my content.

I'm literally putting content on YouTube right now.

Like, how am I going to get people to pay me when I'm getting paid from ads?

And it's a free video.

I know how fans think, so I just wasn't really into it, but I've always kept in contact.

So back in 2019.

Seeing what happened.

I was like, yo, it's getting bigger and bigger.

So I just got on.

They gave me like a guide account.

So my God account, I was allowed to bring people on to the platform and then I could charge a certain amount that I was bringing people onto the platform so if I wanted to do a 20% split or a 30% split just bringing them on I could do that that's where they gave me the guide account then the platform got sold

and then I lost like my contact but then I got into it earlier on with these same people and then we created a beneficial

agreement nice.

So the management is going good.

There's always guys, there's there's always girls, there's always people creating content.

And it's pretty easy.

The pay rates and what people are doing consistently, I just think that

a lot of people hate it, but there's a lot of people like it.

I mean, we literally did $6 billion plus this year past recently.

Damn.

So

somebody likes it, you know?

Yeah.

I was kind of like shaky about it at first because, you know, I'm more like ethical, nice guy, clean cut, graduated from college, you know, adult entertainment is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But it's like,

I'm also a businessman at the end of the day.

But I like money.

I like marketing.

I've always been into like

the girls.

I've always been into like fashion.

I've always been into like culture and music and stuff like that.

That's always been my thing growing up because I am black.

That's our culture.

So I just think it made sense for me to get into that.

I'm more on the marketing side.

So I am an adult.

I do adult things.

I party at our club.

I don't drink or anything.

I don't smoke, but I am an adult.

And when you're an adult, you do adult things.

You know, we're not kids anymore.

So it's just do things ethical.

Do things right.

You know, don't try to take advantage of people, and you're going to live a good life.

I love it.

You're still clubbing, though?

A little bit.

People in our world, they like to go out to have a good time and come meet me here.

Come to dinner.

Then it's a club.

It's not like, hey, come to my house anymore.

Let's chill and hang.

Maybe a vacation.

Hey, we're going to Cabo.

We're going to Tulun.

Meet us out there but it's still clubbing girls with that so yeah i've had some good networking clubs i'm not gonna lie but it's not really my scene to be honest yeah but if people invite you if that's the only place you can meet them

hey what's up we're there can barely hear you and it's a little bit quicker in the club too i think it's a little bit more personal when you meeting people at a restaurant it's a little bit timid yeah kind of unsure when people invite you out when you go into the restaurant going to the club i think the deals go a little bit faster because it's like they just want to see your face, they want to see if you're real, they want to hear a few things, but they already pretty much know about you.

And then the deal is pretty much close.

It's hey, text me tomorrow, I'll send that over and we'll get started.

Fuck.

In the restaurant, they're asking you a bunch of questions.

It's more like.

It's like an interrogation sometimes.

Exactly.

Yeah.

So I just kind of like the club.

Yeah, I feel that.

Do you have a Guinness World Record?

Where'd you read that at?

I might have done some research.

Where'd you read that?

Where'd you get that?

Where'd you get that?

I watched some of your old pods.

Oh, my God.

What happened there?

So unofficial Guinness World Record.

I have the most following on any social media platform.

So Justin Bieber,

I think Justin Bieber holds a record for, or Selena Gomez holds a record for the most.

I don't know who holds it these days, but somebody holds it for the most followers.

I hold it for the most following.

So I followed 3.9 million people originally when we started.

back in the day when we were doing the follow for follow.

Oh, I missed those.

So everybody hated on that too.

All these unethical, you guys think it's unethical, but this is how you grow an audience when you don't know what the hell is going on.

That's how it started.

This is how it originally started.

Growth hacking.

That's what that is.

Some people don't like it.

Some people call it unethical.

But I think whatever the platform allows you to do, do it before it gets taken away.

So now no one can ever beat that record because you cannot follow more than 7,500 people on Instagram and you can't follow more than half of your audience on any other social media platform.

So if you have a million, you can only follow 500,000 on Twitter.

You can never reach my status.

Not in the, you know, I'm not saying it like that.

You guys, I know how you guys are out there, but I'm just saying you could just, it can never be done.

You know what I mean?

So, I do hold the record for that.

That's impressive.

Yeah, it's pretty crazy.

All by myself, did that

manually?

No, manually.

I was in college.

I did that manually.

I changed my, I'm gonna tell you how I did it.

This is how you know I did it manually.

I changed my Apple settings on my computer.

I put the speed up.

I used the keypad.

I used the platform called Manage Flitter.

Manage Flitter, I put my arrow right on Manage Flitter for each profile that said follow.

I target every single person.

I target like rappers, rappers' followings.

I target like athletes following.

I did this all day.

Just double tap.

Just double tap.

I was following thousands and thousands of people an hour, just every single day for a long time.

Literally.

This is how I'm able to do this.

And this is one, two, three, four, six.

That's a lot of people I'm following.

Plus, I already had a large following, so I was able to do that.

Crazy.

And then I exceeded my following of my followers.

And that's how you made your first money, right?

By building that followers.

That's how you build my money.

That's how I made my followers.

That's how I became trusted in the game.

And I was a real genuine person, too.

Like, I was like, yeah, I'll follow you back.

I will follow people with one following because you never know.

A lot of people that I follow, that I support, if you go and look at my followers.

They're big people now.

And they remember me when I was supporting them and saying, oh, you know, thanks for the follow.

Hey, shout out to you.

I see that you're liking a certain person.

When these people were small, and now these people are huge, and we still have a mutual understanding for each other on these platforms, you know?

So it's like, it's good to see people go from small to big when you were supporting them when they was just getting their journey started on social media platforms.

Yeah.

What's your advice now to people?

Because I think 90% of people live in paycheck to paycheck right now.

Yeah.

So when.

I think me personally, I think a lot of people are going to be influencers or micro-influencers.

That's just my take on it.

Just for the simple fact that jobs are going to be scarce with AI.

With AI, technology.

I think a lot of people are staying at home.

I think, I know we're not a communist country, but I think

it's becoming that.

Yeah.

Because

people can't afford things.

The average medium household is like $54,000 a year.

So it's like if it's $54,000 a year, that's medium, which means middle, which means between super rich and super poor.

So if medium is $54,000, what's half a medium?

What is it?

$22,000 a year?

$27,000, right?

So

there's somebody making 000 or 20 27 000 a year yeah they can never i wouldn't say never but they can never really reach the heights of getting to middle class or even upper class they could they would never reach that because they're doing a day-to-day they're taking care of their kids they're going to work and they're going to sleep every day they don't know what it's like so that's why a lot of people are making money on social media from people like that that want to get out of that that want to strive to be great, that want to make money on Amazon and want to make money on social media, don't know how.

Reaching out to people that look like they know how or are really doing it, they sell them a course or they do like a Zoom call with them, they give them the information, but it's really, it really has to be in you to do that.

You really have to understand what's going on on Amazon platform for you to sell something on Amazon to make $100,000 a month, you know.

But ads are a great way to do that.

And I just think like the top three platforms right now for ads is Snapchat, TikTok, and Google.

Wow.

I like Facebook too.

I know a lot of businesses use Facebook, but just if you're a person starting off, if you have no money, Snapchat, TikTok, and Google, Google is going to give you $500 to match your $500 on the ad credit, no matter what.

You have a brand new account on Google, they're going to give you $500 to match your $500.

It's $1,000.

If I have a high-ticket price and I'm selling something, whether it's a product or whether it's a course or whatever it is, you got to understand what the metrics is for impressions.

If it's $1 per thousand people, I spend $100, my ad gets seen to 100,000 targeted people.

If you're selling something for $2, okay, and you make a sale, you got to divide that and do the math on how much you're going to make per person that buys that product based on your ad revenue sales, which is pretty easy to figure out, you know?

So it's like you got that for Google.

Snapchat has a credit line, which most people don't know about.

They're also going to match your

ad space.

So if you spend $200, $300, $500, they're going to give you an extra $500 on a platform.

Plus, they're going to give you a credit line.

Now, you have to have a business to get the credit line, but the credit line basically gives you anywhere from $10,000 to $20,000 to use on their platform for free first, and then they're going to bill you a week or two weeks, or you could do it monthly.

They're going to bill you.

So I've tell people to do that all the time.

And TikTok, it's limited right now.

So limited offer.

You guys need to go out and check it out.

They're doing a one to two dollar split on ads.

So if you spend a thousand, they're going to give you $2,000 on ads right now.

So you spend $1,500, you're going to have an extra $1,500, $2,000, $3,000 to spend on the platform, on TikTok.

And that's happening right now.

I believe it's like

TikTok for me or something like that.

Yeah.

Is that for TikTok Shop?

Because they're promoting that?

TikTok Shop is killing it.

That's where the micro-influencers are coming in.

They're not even using big influencers.

They're using influencers with 100 followers to go live all day to sell products on their platform.

And it's working.

It's literally working.

It's a lot of agencies that's working with TikTok right now with small influencers.

So if you think that you need a big big influence you think you need a big following no connect with the agency because a lot of people are creating brands and they need bodies yeah they need bodies and they need real reviews not fake reviews not just marketing advertising they need real you know advertise followers don't matter like they used to bro did you hear what instagram just said no instagram said hey we're not pushing the big creators anymore.

We're pushing the smaller creators.

It's time to push the smaller creators.

So all the people that have big followings,

you literally not getting pushed anymore unless you're in a niche and you're just literally pushing that content over and over and over.

Everything on Instagram is niche-based.

So whatever you, if you're trying to grow on Instagram, pick one thing and crush that one thing and talk about that one thing.

That's it.

Don't try to be all over the place.

Don't try to be broad because once you start being broad, your audience might get bigger, but now you got different people that like different things.

So if you post something about one thing and they're not interested in that one thing, you get low engagement.

If you get low engagement, Instagram says, oh, okay, their following is going down.

It's not relevant anymore.

They're not popular.

We're not going to show it to the audience because it's no point in keep pushing the algorithm to these people if they're not messing with it.

Right.

It's based off the retention, right?

Right.

I would suggest creating a new page and talk about something else, new company, new everything, and then just push whatever you want to push separately on that page.

Smart.

How tough is dating with your nomad lifestyle?

Because you're always on the move.

Dating is.

When I was living Nomad, I was just dating people all around the world.

I went to an HBCU, so I went to Prairieview A ⁇ M University, which is an all-black college.

Dated all black women.

I'm from the hood.

I'm from South Central.

Dated all black women.

When I graduated, and then I went to U of H and started going to Texas A ⁇ M.

I started learning about kind of like diversity.

Then once I did my first traveling experience to Cancun, I'm like, okay.

It's international.

Then I went to Europe.

It's overseas, right?

And I'm like, yo.

And they like black guys, right?

A lot of races like black guys.

I think black guys are the only people that are liked by all races in general.

You know,

I think a lot of other races are like, oh, I don't like this type.

I don't like this type.

But I think black guys in general, black Americans, because some people think black is everywhere.

It's not.

Black is America.

Black people in general are just more liked culturally from all races, all different types of women around the whole entire world.

So I've been diverse recently, just dating in and out, but I just recently just got in a relationship.

So I'm just working on that.

So it's good to be in a relationship.

If you need to buckle down, if you need to buckle down on your business or you're trying to grow, I would say don't get in a relationship if you can't handle it because it's just going to pull you apart.

You have to spend more time with that person.

You have to spend more money with that person.

You got to give them all the energy you can.

So if you're not that type of person, you're not set in your life, you know, date, but don't get into a relationship unless that person is supporting you or they have their own thing going on in the same room as you.

And you guys meet up when you can meet up in a dating life experience, you know?

Do you have trust issues though?

Because you're dating when you reach a certain level, you know, so do you feel like they're kind of using you?

No, no, no.

Me personally, I know who I am and I know who I date.

So I would never have

trust.

So you don't think they're using you for your followers or your mind?

Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

I date people that are pretty much the same as me.

Okay.

Unless they're from overseas or something like that, then it's more like they're a super genuine person, really nice, don't ask for much wants you to be super nice as well to them and they bring a lot to the table the only thing is they're in a whole another country so that's where you get the whole green cards flying them over to visit you're going over there gets expensive yeah it starts to get a little expensive but i feel like dating in general i think it's a good thing it's a big topic on social media platforms and everybody has their opinion but i think the best thing to do is just find your friend

If you want to date, you could date.

I think guys can date much older than women can.

I think guys can date until they're 70, 80 years old, right?

If you have the right bag, you have the right amount of money.

I don't think you don't see women in their 60s divorced going out and dating a 22-year-old, 24-year-old, advertising it on social media platforms or making it an actual thing.

And I'm not saying women should do that.

And I'm not saying men should do that either, but I'm just saying in general, just try to find your person and your friend.

At the end of the day, and I think you'll live a way better life.

Because I think a lot of people just try to go for looks, love, what a person has,

but that doesn't reciprocate.

It doesn't last long.

You're wasting your time in general.

Find your friend.

Your friend is going to be there whether you're with them in a relationship or not.

And then once things hit the fan, once you start to grow, they're literally growing with you.

You guys can meet at a mutual, respectful level and say, hey, I think we should date.

It's been a long time.

We've talked about other people that we dated, laughed about it, cracked jokes about it, and you know, made fun.

But I think it's best to date a friend.

That's an interesting take.

I've never heard that angle to be friends first and then date them down.

You can be friends.

People are in the rush these days, but they're not having kids and they're not getting married.

So at the end of the day, what are you doing?

If you really like someone, you really love someone, make a commitment.

The same commitment you make to work, the same commitment you make to something that you love the most, you commit to every single day.

You put in a lot of time.

If you're going to commit to a person,

marry them.

Oh, I don't want to get married.

I'm not ready.

Okay, but

you guys are having sex.

You guys, you're spending money on this person.

This money's spending time with you.

So it's like, what is the real goal?

Why not just date, don't commit,

and date multiple people?

But at the end of the day, people don't want to do that because this person, this girl, or this guy is asking you for commitment, but it's half of a commitment.

It's just to lock you in, but it's not to really keep you forever.

Right.

So that's why I think a lot of people go.

crazy.

Yeah.

So what do you think of the red pill movement?

I don't think that shit is real.

What do you mean?

I don't think it's real.

I think it's

I Mean

I Don't think it's real bro.

I I do social media for a living and study humans Everything is manipulation everything

marketing products

Social media in general manipulation.

How can I get this person to follow me?

How can I get this person to buy this product how can I say something to get a person mad hey let's set up this podcast you say this I say this let's get the folks riled up in the comments let's get more followers get more engagement but at the end of the day what's the end goal and who's teaching these people and what are humans learning from watching these types of content

they're getting tricked

if somebody will tell you you in a bad relationship and sleeping next to nobody or they'll tell you hey leave that man and they have their own problems with their own man at the house.

Or can't keep a man.

Yeah,

how could you do that?

That's why it's best to just, I think, I think one of the greatest books is the Bible.

I'm not religious at all, and I'm not an atheist.

When people say, You don't believe in this, but you're atheist.

Just don't call me, I'm just nothing.

I'm spiritual at the end of the day.

But I think the Bible is a great book just to have so you can understand how life works because everything goes in a circle.

You know, there's a Jesus sometimes in some people, there's a David sometimes in some people.

And there's different stories in the Bible that people are doing currently today.

The way people move, the way people stab you in the back.

I think people should just read it not as a religion and read it, understanding how life works, circle of life, so you can kind of like grow faster.

I think 0 through 18 is one quarter.

18 through 30, which is 12 years, is one quarter.

30 through 50 is your third quarter.

And then 50 until you die is your fourth quarter.

You can't do everything in your third and your fourth quarter that you could in your second and your first.

Right.

You could never get those opportunities again.

A lot of people say you do.

If you look at Silicon Valley, a lot of people that are creating companies are in their 40s and 45 years old, so it's never too late.

But at the end of the day, your looks and how people treat you on social media, they won't look at you the same.

You can't be a 45-year-old rapper trying to rap and trying to come out early.

It's just rappers are for you know 15 to like you know 30, maybe.

Yes.

But you could be a country singer forever

see how the different demographics hold you accountable for the type of things that you do it's just about culture and it is a wizard it's always gonna be like that you even have people trolls shout out to the trolls on social media platforms you guys are almost undefeated the internet is undefeated and then the trolls are like second undefeated because sometimes you can if you're smart enough you can kind of manipulate a troll on social media platforms if you're really good and if you can withhold withstand yeah them coming at you and keep attacking you um but the trolls are even like

have no remorse or no ethics because they're behind the keyboard.

Yeah, they're ruthless, they're ruthless.

They will say the craziest thing.

You could go on just a post of somebody passed away on Instagram and Shea Room is posting and they're like, They're gonna comment on what that person did for a living and hold them accountable for what they did for a living and say something really terrible about that comment.

It's insane, it's nuts, it's insane.

Oh, I thought there were a rapper.

Why they got a GoFundMe?

Maybe you need to bury somebody as soon as possible.

The family have no,

they have no passwords to their Twitter, their Instagram.

They have no passwords to their Wells Fargo account.

They don't have access.

Now, if you have life insurance, yes, but a lot of people don't get life insurance.

And I suggest everybody to get life insurance.

You don't necessarily health insurance, you can pay out of pocket, but I would say get health insurance and get life insurance.

Million dollar policy, at least.

You never know, man.

Never know.

You never know.

People are dying every day for no reason, unethically, ethically, for COVID shots.

Rich homie Kwan.

It's crazy.

Two days ago.

Crazy.

Shout out to Rich Homie Kwan, man.

He's come to the club a lot of times.

Yeah, that one was nuts, dude.

I didn't see that one coming.

I didn't see it coming.

I didn't see any of our, you know, people of our generation losing their lives so fast.

You could just see the guns, the drugs, the

Rico cases,

scammers.

Like, like you just see everything coming to light now because of social media or depression.

You don't know what a person is going through.

Imagine being at the top of the game and then having your run and not knowing how to handle being just regular again.

But, you know, people talking about you, people dissing you, trying to stay in the game, trying to still do music because that's all you know.

It's not like you can go work a job or work at McDonald's.

Shout out to Spectacular.

He's been doing a great job with transitioning as an artist from Pretty Pretty Reiki to doing his thing on the social media platforms and doing marketing and leveraging it and connecting with other people of significance.

Yeah, I get his ads.

He's killing it.

You've got to transition, ladies and gentlemen.

Transition.

Make sure you transition with your age, with your time, and your group, and take your money and maximize it.

Times 10.

Absolutely.

Very important.

Now, you said you grew up in a rough environment.

So, was there a specific moment that made you want to go the ethical route?

I think seeing all my friends be successful, and I think me being in the the gangland environment, I think into me being alive in it and never having a real situation, never getting shot or never being in like a tough situation where I had to like do something to somebody.

I think that made me realize, like, okay, I think I'm an angel at the end of the day because I've lived in between Hoovers,

A-Tre gangsters, rolling 60s,

F MS13.

Damn.

So Mexicans over here,

Hoovers over here, A-Tre over here.

you got 60s over here, and then you got like dark side, 40s, and bloods.

All in one area.

No matter which way you go, you run into somebody.

Crazy.

And when they're trying to recruit you?

Recruit, beat you up, take your shoes.

I've never had that happen to me ever.

What?

Ever.

I've rode the bus.

I've went to go see girls in people's hoods.

Never had a situation.

I think, I don't know, but I know how to look at people.

I know how to talk to people.

You know, I've got a lot of people.

Your energy is pure.

My energy.

It's about your energy.

But I've had a lot of friends pass away.

I had a lot of friends get into the gangland environment, and they're in jail right now.

I had a lot of people do bad things, and they have to pay the price for that.

And I've been around it, and I've held my shit down.

I held myself down, but I've never been the person to be a follower.

I think it's about being a follower versus being a leader and just holding your ground.

It's like a lot of people will respect you more if you just hold your ground and stand on your ground and do your own thing.

For anybody out there that's,

if you're being pre-pressured to do something,

I would just say stand on your 10 toes.

You know, if you feel like, and if you feel like deep in your heart you don't want to do something, don't do it.

Right.

Because at the end of the day, the price you have to pay is

worse than getting beat up or getting called a

bitch or whatever the case might be.

You're going to see who's the bitch at the end of the day.

Trust me.

I promise you.

You're going to see who's the bad person, who's going to be put in jail, who's going to be shot, who's going to be put on a dummy mission to go do something stupid, and you have to pay the price for that for a long time.

So I just think I'm blessed.

There's a lot of people that's not blessed where I'm from.

I always go back to the hood.

I always go back to the projects.

I'll roll up in my Rolls-Royce Lamborghini.

Not that I have one, but I do roll up in a Rolls Royce and Lamborghini and give back to the community.

Do you think this is fixable within our lifetimes, like those communities?

For sure, because they're getting pushed out by gentrification.

So gentrification and technology are going to put those people in a better position.

A lot of people see it as, oh, they're taking their homes.

And it sounds crazy to me.

I know a lot of people are going to say something crazy in the comments, but I see it as them getting forced out into a better position because they're only going to stay in that spot.

It's their home.

It's messed up.

But I think with,

you know, people getting put into the right position and them getting moved out.

to a better position because you can't move nobody out without putting them somewhere.

That's one thing you can't do.

You can't kick someone out of somewhere without putting them somewhere and giving them some money.

So that's going to help them too.

So it's taking them out of the hood, taking them out their ops situation, getting them out of the gang life.

That's a lot of people that move to Pomona, Pasadena, further out in the valley.

They still try to keep that gang life going, but it's like, it's kind of hard to gangbang it when no one's outside and there's nothing going on.

They got to spread them out, right?

They can't put them all in one area again.

Exactly.

So

I think personally, I think it's good.

i think we'll definitely see it in our lifetime with technology and people start to grow because there are a lot of people doing a lot of great things for children in the community

i do think that instagram and social media platforms gives a person to see like hey i can make it out hey i can't rap hey i can be a doctor hey i can make money on social media shout out to funny mike funny mike's one of my guys from louisiana

he's been killing it on social media platforms he's been genuine He does what he wants to do.

He cusses.

He's ghetto.

He's black.

He's a father.

He's a brother.

He's a great friend.

He showcases that all on his YouTube.

And guess what?

Still has families reaching out to him.

He's blowing families up on YouTube, teaching them how to do YouTube.

He's taking other people's kids and bringing them to the house, leaving them there, having them build a following, and then letting them go back home and build their following and posting them on the platforms and stuff like that.

So it's like you could be yourself.

You could be genuine.

You could be culture and still push, promote positivity and still be family oriented.

A lot of people try to like

fake it.

Yeah.

I mean on social media platforms.

So I think we definitely can make it out here in these streets.

Yeah, the faking stuff long term just doesn't work out.

It doesn't work out.

You got to keep up with it unless you have money.

And even then, your money is going to dwindle away.

If you ever bought anything that's worth a lot of money, it's always,

unless it's art.

unless it's property or real estate or something like that, it depreciates.

Oh, yeah.

A car depreciates unless it's a classic.

You know what I mean?

So as soon as you drive it off the line, it depreciates.

You want to get things that are inflated majority of the time, that have inflation, natural inflation.

I think, what's the inflation rate every single year?

2.5?

That's what they said, but this year it's terrible, right?

Yeah, it's probably like at a high five.

But every year, inflation on your money is 2.5, anywhere from 2.5 to 5%.

So in 10 years, 50% of your money's worth is going to be naturally gone.

Crazy.

You know what I mean?

So it's like, I remember when bag of chips are 99 cents.

I remember that.

$25 chips, right?

Y'all remember that?

Now the $25 chips are a dollar and a dollar bag of chips, 99 cent bag of chips are what?

Two bucks?

Yep.

Like $2.10 or something.

Yeah, candy went up.

Candy doubled up.

Ice cream, everything.

Eggs are like $10 a month.

Pay attention to your surroundings.

That's what I would tell people all the time.

Pay attention to your surroundings.

Have multiple revenue streams and kill it and have good connections.

The money is out there.

They're printing money every single day.

I think they have uh for 2024 i think they have they have the permission to print what 38 million notes jeez 38 million notes you can go to um federalreserve.com.gov and look up how many federal um notes they're going to be printing every single year and they always say they exchange the money which means You know, when you turn your money in, you were a business, you turn your money in, it goes to the Brinkstrike, Brinkstrike sends it to the Fed.

They exchange the money, right?

They exchange it.

but there's five percent left over that they don't swap out really right or they quote unquote burn or the government asks for money wherever that money is going it's going to someone that person is spending that money on something whether it's luxury items luxury items then get spent resold it's just the money just trickles down to the next person that's why there's so many people getting richer and richer and richer if there's no money how are people getting how are new people getting rich how are they new millionaires don't don't listen to what these people are saying out here talking about there's no money and it's not enough money for everybody it's enough money for everybody out here literally everyone yeah a lot of fear-mongering a lot of that just to keep you suppressed and keep you down but just definitely do it i'm gonna tell people to be successful literally i know people heard this before but to be successful you need 10 000 hours put 10 000 hours into your craft seriously

Eight hours a day, if you could do it, right?

Eight hours of sleep, eight hours of work, eight hours of free time.

Now, if you want to go hard, do 12.

If you do 12 hours every single day, 365, I think you could be successful in three to four years, right?

If you do the hours, 10,000 hours.

If you're going to do eight hours, it's going to take you about five years.

But you have to do it every single day, weekends, every single day.

You got to put in eight hours of your craft.

Now, if you want to span that over a course of two years, you could put anywhere from 14 hours to 16 hours a day.

And that's what we did.

But you can't have a job

unless you are not sleeping.

So it's like you have to have somebody to support you, your mom, your girlfriend, a wife, a brother, someone to support you through your journey that's going to say, hey, this person's going to make it.

They're serious.

They're taking this shit serious.

They're working hard every single day.

I'm going to support that.

That's why I think a lot of people fear

other people being supportive.

And I think a lot of people fear of this person won't support me through my journey because it looks like I'm just taking

from you or I'm taking from someone and I'm just doing whatever I want to do when this person might have dreams and goals too.

So it's like, all right, let's do you first and then let's do me after.

I've never seen anyone on social media or I've never seen any basketball player or any, I've never seen it.

If that person did not put the work in, they did not get what they wanted out of it.

Yeah, you can't skip that step.

You can't.

You can't.

They have

industry plants.

You know, they have people that put the money, the machine behind you.

But we see what happens to those people.

I won't say any names.

I won't say any names.

I'm not trying to go viral, but you see what happens to those people.

Those industry plants, they die out in two years.

Yep.

They die out in four years because the fans, like, oh, this person's fake.

Oh, they was fake to their friend.

Oh, they can't make songs.

Oh, they can't write songs.

Oh, this guy can't even play basketball.

He can't even shoot.

This percentage is terrible.

He got ranked really high because he had connections and people that were pushing him, coaches, and all that.

Then he got to the NBA and he's just trash.

Can't dribble F.

He's can't drip.

He can't play under pressure.

Bright lights is too much for him.

He has a problem problem outside of the basketball court.

He doesn't put in the work.

You'll see it.

And I don't have a drop-off.

Happens all the time.

I remember when we were playing basketball, and I was so, I wanted to be in the NBA so bad.

And then I saw that paperwork that the colleges get,

where you actually get paid to come play the bigger teams.

So a bigger school like Duke will pay a smaller school like $200,000 to come, right?

But the school will take the $200,000, pay for the bus, pay, because you're not flying really in college, like you're driving.

Pay for the bus.

We would eat dominoes or like

buffets, right?

When I seen that $200,000 and how much these colleges was paying other colleges to play us during their preseason,

I was like, oh, this is a money game.

I was like, this is a money game right here.

Okay, cool.

Let me start throwing these parties.

Let me start using my influence at this school.

to start throwing parties.

Let me take my OP check, my overpayment check, take that, put it into something that's going to generate me more money in college.

That's what I was doing.

People were buying cars and chains.

I was putting my money back into myself and getting money from the students on campus throwing parties.

From the freshmen all the way up to the seniors to even dealing with the fraternities and sororities, doing partnership parties with them.

And we would have a thousand people at the party and we charging $10, $15 a head.

You know what I mean?

We have the local people performing.

at the party to make them come.

So that's the type of stuff that I was doing once I saw that paperwork.

Because the paperwork is crazy.

You don't know how much these schools are getting per player.

They give you a scholarship.

Now they have the monetization platform.

You know, it's great.

But during our time, they didn't have that.

Oh, no.

NCAA was printing in your time.

NIL changed up the game for sure.

Changed the game.

You still play?

Yeah, I still play basketball.

Shout out to the Migo.

Shout out to Quavo.

We beat two chains

for that game.

I think it was the Academy game.

I had like 25 or something.

Let's go.

We might have to to run while you're out here.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Let's do it.

I just saw the league you were playing in.

I followed them recently.

Oh, the Summerlin one?

Yeah.

24-hour fitness.

Yeah, yeah, I need to go up there and dig out a little bit.

It's a good league.

You should join.

Yeah, I definitely like it.

Well, dude, it's been fun.

I'm glad you are you're back in the spotlight.

Are you gonna do a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of this?

Your podcast will be the first post on my page since I think 2022.

I've only posted once every single year to let people know that I'm still alive and still doing stuff, and I'll throw a bunch of stuff in one long reel.

But after this podcast, I'm getting back into it.

I reached out to a lot of people that do like quick Instagram reels and things like that and shorts.

So let's do it.

I'm going to do it myself, but in my own way, and showcase a little bit different than how most of these people are doing it.

Hell yeah, man.

You'll be the first.

Appreciate you, dude.

It's for sure.

It's been cool seeing your journey.

Thanks for coming on.

Yeah, for sure.

Thanks for watching, guys.

As always, we'll link Marpie's below in the description.

See you guys next time.

Peace.