Why Men Are Under Attack in 2024: UFC Fighter Speaks Out | Jorge Masvidal DSH #930

Like if you're a man, they try to confuse you so much.

If you're in the this, if you're into that, if you're in the right body, if you know, if you're toxic because you're fucking like sports and you like women and this and that.

So it's a crazy time nowadays to be a man.

We've never been more attacked as men in the history of men.

You know, just for being a man, you get fucking

crucified and shit.

It's crazy.

All right, guys, Jorge Masvedal here today.

What happened, man?

Got knocked out early.

He got me.

I had some good hands.

The first one, I had a nice boat.

I was doing good on my chips.

I had threes with sevens, and buddy had eights with sevens.

So he got me, man.

There was a lot of stuff on the table.

I thought I was good with

my set to turn into a boat.

I put him on the straight, so at first I was a little hesitant.

I didn't want to bet too much or anything.

So then when I made the boat, I was like, I think I got him.

Wrong, you know.

Boat over boat.

Boat over boat.

You play a lot of of poker?

I used to play a ton of poker from like,

I started at 14.

Then at 18, I was always in the casinos.

Then I'm going to say from like 24, 23 years old to about like 31, played a lot.

Damn.

Five hours a day, a lot.

Okay.

So you were nice.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So you were making a living off it or just on the side?

When I was still fighting early on in my career, like I was still fighting for like Strike Force and some other organizations.

I was playing a lot.

And shit, I would make some ends meet numerous times, you know, get a little tournament, cash out in the tournament, go to a cash game, make some money, you know.

So there was a time where it was putting some food on the table, you know?

Do you think being good at poker helped you with the mindset with fighting too?

Maybe just like the patience part and stuff, you know.

But I would think to anybody here, you know, all my athletes out there here, probably stay away from poker, hit the gym hard, and that'll make you a better fighter.

Absolutely.

But it's definitely fun.

It's one of my I love it because it just takes my mind off everything.

When I'm in the table, I'm not thinking about anything or what I got to do and what I'm going to do.

I'm just having a blast.

I feel that.

Did you watch the Paul Tyson fight?

Not really, brother.

I had an event that day.

I have a bare knuckle league and we went live that day.

We had 12 UFC veterans fighting, total of 11 fights.

We had a great fucking show, so I didn't get to watch the Tyson Paul fight.

I saw some highlights on social media and stuff, but I can't say I watched the whole thing.

Yeah, what do you think of the highlights, though?

You fought Jake Paul, so...

No, oh, you didn't?

No, no, no.

Oh, I thought you bought him.

I'd love to.

No, I'd love to.

I'd love to fight Jake Paul and break his face.

Not in person.

I I'd just break his face.

No, I didn't get to fight him, though, but I just, I don't know.

I really, you know, for that type of money, man, you got to be violent.

You know, you got to be fucking

putting people to sleep, man, getting all that type of money.

It's just both sides was like a little lackluster, man.

I'm not going to lie.

You know, but there was the John Jones fight on Saturday, which was amazing.

That made up for it.

Yeah, that made up for it.

I mean, dude, that finish was one of the best I've ever seen.

Yeah, yeah.

The whole fight itself was amazing.

You got him as your goat, John Jones?

He's definitely up there.

There's not, I think, one guy over everybody in MMA, in my book, in my opinion, but he's definitely up there as one of the greatest of all time.

Undisputedly.

The longevity is insane, too.

The longevity is insane.

The way he's finished some of these top guys on his way up was some of the most impressive stuff that I've seen.

Like Shogun, Lioto Machita, how he finished those guys, and those guys are amazing to me.

Some of the very, very best.

Jones is a special guy, man.

Yeah, and you've had a long career too, man.

Not a lot of guys last that long.

No.

What do you attribute that to?

Jesus, God Almighty.

I love that.

Yeah.

Purpose, right?

Yes, sir.

Yeah, Jesus.

Has that always played a big role for you?

Yeah, definitely.

Religion's the number one motivator for me.

Not religion.

I would just say my relationship with God, you know.

Was that something your family kind of put you in growing up?

Nah, just something happened to me in my childhood when I was young, like around five years old, that changed my outlook on life and a lot of different things.

So since that moment on.

Nice.

Yeah, I think a lot of guys struggle with that purpose, right?

Like an identity crisis almost.

Oh, yeah.

Especially I think nowadays with

Like if you're a man they try to confuse you so much if you're in the this if you're into that if you're in the right body if you know if you're toxic because you fucking like sports and you like women and this and that So it's a crazy time nowadays to be a man.

We've never been more attacked as men in in the history of men, you know just for being a man you get fucking

You know, crucified and shit.

It's crazy.

Right.

A lot of shame and guilt, right?

Yeah, yeah, you know.

was that a big reason you were a part of that that trump movement um because you felt like that was under attack by the left i i was part of the trump movement because he's it's a much bigger than even that you know besides gender ideology and identity stuff i i just feel that trump overall to sum it up kind of rather quick i feel that uh He tackles the issue of communism and socialism like nobody does.

And I believe in my heart that the Democratic Party has been infiltrated by communists.

And there's only one guy that's fucking fighting him head on, and that's Donald J.

Trump, you know.

So that, in short, is like a lot of the good that I think he does, besides the economy, keeping the border safe and stuff.

But I really like his stance against socialism and communism.

And he understands it's right around the corner.

It's not some far-distant theory, no, it's like right there, you know.

And I appreciate what you did because you were rocking with him for a while.

Yeah.

And back in 2016.

And back then, you would get like a lot of sponsorship money would go away.

Gone.

Gone.

Gone, gone.

Unmonetized on YouTube, Facebook, and Instagram.

She lost millions overnight.

Man, almost Facebook and YouTube overnight with no warning, nothing just unmonetized me.

And like all my earning potential.

There's still to this day is like shit on it.

Dance to this day.

To this day, I'm both YouTube and Facebook.

So you lost millions by backing him, basically.

You know, but really, I don't give a fuck because this is the greatest country in the world.

I'd rather lose my salary than, you know, not I'm not saying that I won the election, me, you know, standing up for it, but it does feel that if I have a platform, I have to use it to speak the truth, to feel what I think is right for myself and for my peers around me.

So I never regret it.

I don't give a fuck.

You know, we'll do it all over again.

I love it.

You were the first fighter, I think, to back out.

Oh, 100%.

100%.

That's why he loves me.

And now John Jones is doing it.

A lot of guys.

A lot of guys.

I think a lot of guys supported him low-key.

Yeah.

At first, but...

They didn't want to come out here and feel that drama, that heat.

Me, I'm a thug.

I don't give a fuck, man.

You're not scared of the internet cancel culture?

No, no, none of that.

You know, gotta take the money away.

I don't give a fuck.

Yeah.

God's got my back.

I'll figure it out later.

Wow.

That's big, man.

Could you beat Bradley Martin in a street fight?

Who the fuck is that?

You don't know who that is?

He must be like some Bruce Lee motherfucker.

You're asking me about him.

This guy must be like John Jones or something, bro.

He's a big dude.

Big dude?

Yeah.

Somebody.

I got to pull up a bunch of people.

He's got like a big...

Yeah, he's 260.

Oh, I know who you're talking about.

Yeah, yeah.

The dude that asked every fighter if you.

Yeah, yeah.

I wish he'd asked me that question.

Logan Paul beat him he pulled up to uh or Logan Paul pulled up on him and that and that was like uh like MMA or boxing I don't know what they did they didn't film it, but you saw after how his head got I like Logan Paul and all but if it's a fight I'll put that guy in the hospital

Yeah, yeah really well, it's what I do for a living bro.

I don't fucking cut TikTok videos for a living, you know Yeah, you don't mix the friendship with business No, I will.

If it came to a fight, I would love to fight him, but when I step in that cage, it don't matter if it's my mom.

It's one speed.

I'm not going to knock her out, but she's not going to win.

You've probably had to fight close friends before in the past, right?

Yeah.

In the sport, I find some people that I'm cool with.

And then just growing up, you know,

with motherfuckers like me, I got into some fight with a couple of my friends.

Not something that I did a lot or something that I'm proud of or care to ever do is fight with friends, you know.

Yeah.

But fighting professionally, I love it.

It's the funnest thing I've ever done.

Yeah, you're still doing it, man.

Now you're boxing.

You just boxed an idea.

Yes, sir.

Yes, sir.

Do you plan on fighting again, boxing?

No, not boxing right now.

If something comes up, I'll take it.

But right now, my eyes are focused.

I'm coming back to the UFC April.

Oh, nice.

Let's go.

Yes, sir, Miami.

You got an opponent planned?

Not yet.

Hopefully, we know by December.

But as of yet, we're just scoping them out, seeing who's available.

Let's go.

So you like UFC more than boxing?

100%.

That's why I picked UFC from the start, you know?

Yeah, I feel that.

Well, dude, that's awesome.

Yeah, I watched that match.

It was a good match with you and you and Nate.

I thought you were going to take it.

I thought I won it, man, but

you know, the judges saw it differ.

Yeah.

Nate, though, walked out with a headache, busted lip, busted eyes, so he knows he didn't win, you know?

Yeah.

I mean, there was a fight before Jake Paul's fight with the girls.

Oh, yeah.

And people were pissed because of judging.

Yeah.

Like Serrano, apparently.

Serrano and the other girl.

Yeah, yeah.

Serrano won, apparently.

I heard.

Do you think there should be a better system for judging?

It's complicated.

You got to go attack the infrastructure of judging, you know, especially for MMA boxing.

It's it's a whole other fucking thing.

Boxing is more corruption than anything while we have these fucking ridiculously incompetent judges.

It's straight up corruption.

In MMA, it's a combination of maybe a little bit of corruption, but a lot of ignorant people should not be judging fights.

So, you know, it's getting a lot better.

A lot of fighters and a lot of...

Individuals that have been in the sport, whether they be a coach or a sparring partner, are getting involved in the sport and officiating.

So now I think it's going to start getting better and better.

I feel like it's getting better every year yeah why do you think there's so much corruption in boxing money so they get paid off basically the judges judges commission you look a lot of these big-time fighters they were giving out big massive gifts to referees to judges to anybody associated with the things you know they were gifting them cars large bonuses for christmas things like that and and the money in boxing is so much that you can corrupt people that that's a lot of reason why at the same time boxing kind of fell off because this a level superstar over here didn't want to fight anybody that could possibly beat him.

So he would just rather keep his O than lose it, you know.

So that's something boxing didn't used to be like that in like the 80s, the 90s.

And slowly but surely, they started making more belts, more divisions.

And that's it.

It kind of like messed up the sport.

But the sport's in a much better place.

And I think boxing is in its best place it's been for a while.

Yeah.

You attribute that to the influencers getting involved, kind of bringing it back to the spotlight.

I think a combination of things, the influencers and

long night.

i think that and fighters saying you know the last like four or five years like man all these other greats fought each other way past their prime let's not do that let's just get to it you know and i think ryan garcia gets a lot of credit for that because he kind of set that off with tank davis he fought one of the most dangerous guys and since then people started more like calling out each other and fighting each other and how it's supposed to be because if you're the best in the world you're fighting everybody you're not just fucking fighting Joe Blow and a 60-year-old.

You know, you're fighting the fucking world's best, no matter who they are or where they're from.

That's the greatest thing about sports and combat, you know, but in boxing,

it's starting to get better.

There's a great fight right now.

David Morel's fighting

David Benavidez.

That's going to be one of the fucking

best fight.

No, no, no.

That's coming up.

That's in December or something, but that's going to be a fucking amazing fight.

Yeah, I'd love to see that instead of just patting your stats for like 20 fights, right?

Right, yeah.

Being 20-0, but you fought against no one good.

No, but you bunch of taxi cab drivers fucking some third world country.

Did you do that when you were coming up?

Fight easy fights?

No, no, because in MMA it was

there wasn't such a talent pool that you could pick from

guys that weren't that good because everybody was kind of decent.

And MMA's like not like that.

So if you lost MMA, it wasn't the end of the world.

It's like just get back on the horse, win a couple fights, do it impressively, and you can get back on track.

So in MMA, it was just everybody's fighting everybody free-for-all.

I feel it up.

You posted on X, Herb Dean is the worst referee in the game.

Yeah.

What made you feel that way?

Because he's the worst fucking referee in the game.

On a personal level, I like the dude.

I get along with him well.

But

if you just go look up my fights that he's called with me and the horrendous jobs that he's done a couple times with me, he's done atrocities.

And it's been more than like three of them.

It's literally, I think, three of them that he's completely dropped the ball.

So I

like he called it too early or what happened?

Numerous, numerous fucking things.

Like I fought Donald Cowboy Sarone, and

I fucking dropped him.

And when I dropped him I get on top of him and

the

the 10 second thing rings you know so right after that I drop him and I'm hitting him and he pulls me off and he waves it off like this right so you never you never do that unless it's off if it's the bell rung you go like this but he comes in and he waves it off so right after he does this the bell goes

So I would have had two seconds that he robbed me from fucking smashed potato in this guy's face, but not just that.

He did this.

And and it's all on video when you do this that means the fight is over he didn't do this separate it's the next round he did this and the bell sounding made me think oh okay the fight's won i raised my hands donald's corner comes in which i don't blame him they're supposed to do so they do they they did a great job they grab their guy and they take him to the corner and sit him down and herb looks at them And he's like, oh yeah, the fight's still on.

You can see it all on video.

It's like all on video.

And not only is he like a bad ref, but he lets himself get like

impulse and and have like feelings when he shouldn't have feelings when you should do what it's right like you literally stopped it like a second or two before that bell rings and then you you let it continue you know so then it goes into the second round the same thing happens i drop him again he gets back up and he's up in the corner and i start landing body shots on him and then this guy just gets in and stops it you know like it wasn't a bad stop anyways it was gonna end up being bad for Donald.

He was going to take a lot more damage.

But now he's standing on his fucking two feet, hands are up.

He's defending himself intelligently and he fucked it up but it's not just with me he's he's up over like 20 30 fights that i've been sighted to you that i've seen with my own eyes bro that's crazy i think he's one of the worst referees period they put him on all the big fights though right i know because he's just there you know but i really think he's fucking trash damn that's wild because i thought people considered him the best ref yeah nah i mean everybody has opinions i fought another guy jake ellenberger and jake ellenberger caught my leg and when i took my leg the way i took it out is i exposed my back so as i exposed exposed my back, he came with a flying knee.

The counter to that is like you could either block or you could attack the foot that's in the bottom and sweep him.

Okay.

So, I swept him, but his foot got caught in the cage.

That ain't my fault.

Is that my fault?

You're trying to kill me with a fucking knee to my face.

Now, I made you miss.

Now, your foot got caught in the cage.

Am I supposed to stop?

Hell no.

So, I start fucking giving this motherfucker shots and trying to kill him.

Herb Dean stops it, right?

And then, like, two minutes later, he's telling the commission, no, no, his foot got stuck.

This is a no contest.

What the fuck you talking about?

He's the one that threw a strike and that's how his foot ended up there.

Wow.

He hadn't thrown that strike.

So I just think this guy's fucking basud out, bro.

Damn, that's crazy.

Yeah.

Is there a rule for that, though, if your foot gets stuck?

No, yeah, it's fight.

You know, it's like if you're on bottom and I fucking throw a punch at your face and you move your face and I hit the canvas and when I hit the canvas, I break my fucking hand.

Whose fault is that?

Right.

You know?

Yeah, you got to take responsibility, right, for the position you're in.

That's why I joined the sport.

Full accountability, man.

Yeah.

I'm a chess player, so the only way you lose is off your mistake.

Nice.

So it's similar.

What's your favorite piece?

Ooh, that's a good-ass question.

I've never even asked that.

I would say probably the horse because the horse is tricky.

Yeah, the knight.

You can't predict a lot of shit with the night.

Yeah, you play chess?

Not great at it, but I love it, brother.

It's a good fun sport.

It's a fun sport, man.

Yeah, it is.

Love it.

It's a lost game, though.

A lot of kids don't play that stuff these days.

They don't.

Same with fighting, right?

That's not really a commonly.

I think more common though.

Oh, it is.

When I was growing up, it was maybe boxing and like karate and stuff and then the ufc came and

yeah i did karate that was a joke though i feel like i don't use any of that yeah you know some karate's are wish washy some are more legit you know but ever since the ufc came into the picture it's like a different

and that was before you like got into fighting right like it came out later ufc yeah UFC came out on my birthday November 12 when I was nine years old 1990 something I forgot the exact date oh okay yeah I discovered it and I was 11 like two years later And since then, I was completely hooked to it, you know?

Damn.

So you got this dream for a while.

A long time since a kid.

I told my mama, mom,

you can put that fucking apron up.

You ain't got to work no more.

Son's here, got a plan.

At nine years old, you said that?

No, like at 12, 13 years old.

She's like, well, what's the plan?

I told her, listen, they got this thing called the ultimate fighting championships.

If you win a tournament, which meant you fought four times in the night, bare knuckle and you beat four guys,

you got $50,000, right I told my mom I'll do like three of those a year we're fucking rich and my mom looked at me like you the dumbest son of a bitch she some guys get in a cage this is back then we're talking about like 30 years more than 30 years

you're gonna get in a cage with and do what you go no you get in a cage right i'm trying to explain so you get in a cage right with another guy that's been like training

and then we fight And there's like no rules.

And then the winner advances and then you fight again.

And then the winner advances, and then you fight again.

And then she's like, What the fuck?

And then, and then if you win that one, you fight a fourth time.

And my mom's like, What the fuck are you talking?

This is a craziest.

I'm taking it to church right now.

Crazy.

No gloves, too.

God damn it.

Back then, but by the time I got around to it, there was gloves.

There was a lot more rules and stuff.

But this is when I'm like 13 years old, you know, and the sports are getting sorted out.

Yeah, well, they brought the bare knuckles up back now, right?

You said, Yeah, I have a bare knuckle league, bare knuckle MMAs, all the same rules as MMA, but just no gloves.

Wow.

So those punches do way more damage.

Way more damage.

There's a lot more submissions, a lot more action on the ground because the gloves kind of stall things out as far as like grappling goes.

But when you take the gloves off, more submissions, more knockouts, more everything.

Wow, I gotta check that out.

You said you just had an event, right?

Yes, sir.

It's got game, bread, bare knuckle.

When's the next one?

We're gonna have the next one probably March, April next year in Miami.

Okay.

It's gonna be lit.

I'll pull up.

Oh, that sounds fun.

I'd love for you to pull up, bro.

You have a blast, man.

Yeah?

Yeah.

Have you fought in that?

No, I can't.

I'm signed to the UFC, so.

Oh, okay.

It's my company, but I can't fight nowhere else but the you FC.

Nice.

So you won that tournament, though, with the four fights?

That's how you fight?

No, no, no, no.

So when I told my mom this, I'm 13 years old, right?

And this is what's happening at the time.

I don't turn pro till I'm like 18, 19, and the rules change already dramatically by the time I'm like a big guy, you know, and I could already compete in the UFC.

Yeah, because four fights is too many, right?

I mean, four fights in one night.

It's nuts.

No weight clashes.

You could eye gouge.

You could hit somebody in the fucking jewels you could fucking fish hook them you do a million different things that you can't do no more damn which loss hurt the most for you like you still think about you know literally every single one of them wow any one of them i don't care if it was for a title or for this every single loss hurt fucking like a million needles and every single victory was what small one or big one was like the greatest thing ever in life you know high highs and low lows yeah yeah yeah because you come in with a plan and it probably doesn't work out half the time right you know you spent you know besides your whole life to that point whatever months it's down dude

not fucking you know doing all the shit that leads to failure you know doing everything that leads to success and sacrificing yourself and then uh you come up short it hurts you know yeah but as a fighter i mean

as a fighter you keep fighting unless you're john jones it's inevitable you're gonna lose yeah you just get better and even john jones has had some nights that you know the judges gave it to him but a majority of the people that watched felt oh he lost that fight, you know.

So nobody's really like undefeated in that cage in a way.

You know, the judges might have said you won, but it's hard to go out there without taking damage and actually winning every fight.

Absolutely.

What was the favorite fight you've ever had?

Shit.

All of them, man.

Ben Askron.

Ben Askrin was fun.

But, you know, his bitch ass was just a five-second thing, man.

It's just...

All of them are fun.

All the fights are fun.

The 25-minute ones, the 5-second ones, I love it, man.

I love the fight.

That's why i got into it so young and i didn't really care about the money if the money came i was awesome but just that they were giving out fifty thousand dollars for one championship i was like that that's amazing that they're even paying me because literally at the end of the day what i love most what i have my basketball game my pickup game is is fighting you know do you still have the same passion now as you did when you first started definitely when i'm competing you know once i'm in there once i'm in the spawning room once i'm in the gym you know when i was younger i was a little bit maybe hungrier to learn more stuff to be more in the gym but when it's competition time just as hungry, I feel that, dude, it's been fun.

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