Crypto Whale Trades: The $100M Secret (FOMO) | Nick Murphy DSH #929

The bit like the cryptocurrency industry.

Yeah.

And that just makes more eyes on crypto, more interest in crypto.

I mean, hell, there's a chance that you know the U.S.

Treasury ends up converting over to more of a digital system.

We'll see.

That'd be nuts.

There has been rumors of them having a digital coin, though, right?

Yeah.

I've heard that for years.

I mean, well, and Trump has said a lot of things about he wants, you know, the U.S.

to be the biggest crypto holder in the world.

Yeah.

Let's see what happens.

All right, guys, Nick Murphy here from Ace Trading.

It's the earliest he's been awake in a while, right?

That's what we do.

Come on, man.

We got the Vegas time, though, you know?

Let's go.

Two hours behind.

On the Ace of Spades, too.

Hey, you know, you got to rep.

Starting the day off right.

You've been busy these days, I'm sure.

Very busy, man.

Very busy.

Trading and with crypto at an all-time high, I'm sure business is booming.

Business is booming.

It's, you know, with our business, it's a little different.

You know, we are on the execution side.

So, you know, price being up just means more people are trading, which is good.

It's definitely busy.

But during the bear market, you were still doing well?

Still doing well, man.

The difference was people were kind of getting out of positions or getting on the sidelines and just waiting to see what happened.

So it was just kind of chill.

It was weird.

We kind of had the same effect back about two months ago when markets kind of pumped up and then stopped.

Everybody's waiting to see which way it broke.

Interesting times for sure, man.

Yeah.

You think this time will stick around?

I couldn't tell you, man.

With our business, we are solely caring about volatility and trading the volatility.

So if the markets are volatile, we're doing well.

Yeah.

So the more volatile, the better.

That's how we see it, man.

I mean,

at heart, we are what's called a market maker.

So, you know, I've got the market maker mentality.

We execute our OTC trades, which is over-the-counter trades.

So block trades, big size,

minimum trade, 250K.

But we are the best in the business when it comes to executing large trades, large size, with little to no market impact.

So if you were to come to me with a thousand Bitcoins, say, Nick, let's sell all 1,000.

or if you were to do it yourself, you would just sell it all one time and you'd fuck up the market.

The market would go down.

Your average execution price, if you will, would go down.

If you came to me, we're very, you know, client objective based.

So I would say, hey, you know, what are you looking to do?

What's your timeline look like?

I've got a thousand BTC, then let's run an algo that slowly unwinds its position over three days, five days, seven days, 10 days.

And we would do that based upon your objectives.

I like that.

Has someone actually approached you with that many Bitcoins?

We've had much bigger.

Really?

Yes.

And a thousand?

Yes.

Dude, a thousand is like, I can't even do the equation on that.

I mean, those trades take a little bit longer.

I mean, if you really want to not affect the market, you know, not push the price around, you got to be very careful.

Yeah.

Even as far as like, you know, the crypto whale alerts, you're familiar with those?

Yeah, I've seen that.

If people just see you move a thousand BTC on the blockchain, people are not like, oh shit, what's going to happen?

Exactly.

Yeah, I saw one the other day where the guy had like 2,000.

Exactly.

And what did everybody do?

They sold.

You're like, well, everybody's like, what's going to happen?

Like, somebody moves just at 2,000 and they're 3,000 of 1,000 Bitcoin.

Any of those, it's going to make alerts in the blockchain.

People are like, oh, shit.

Crazy.

I wonder how Michael Saylor buys this because he buys huge tranches.

Well, buying is different.

That's dollars to crypto.

You know, you can't track the dollars going into the market.

Yeah, but I think he announces when he buys.

I mean, I couldn't tell you, man.

I don't know if

that's the smartest move or not.

I don't know the guy, so I can't tell you.

I have not watched his trading patterns.

Do you do every coin or just the top ones?

So it it depends on what what's niche about our business is yes mainly and I'll say you know market color wise we've really only been seeing BTC ETH Solana and stable coin trades as of late for the majority

but our trading strategies don't just you know they're not just effective in the majors they're also very effective in illiquid markets so for example

Let's say you're a crypto PR firm or a crypto law firm, right?

Yeah.

That over the past couple of years, you've had clients that you brought on and they've paid you partially in crypto, partially in cash, the crypto being their crypto coin.

On paper, as that crypto PR firm or crypto law firm, on paper, you might have a $2 million position of shit coin XYZ, right?

Now, if you look at the daily volume of trades, it might be trading $45,000.

So how are you going to unwind that position?

You can't.

They can't.

Your other desks out here, which are some of the greatest desks in the world that I've learned a lot from, you know, Cumberland, Falcon X, you know, Wintermute, all these other desks that do amazing at what I mean, these are the guys that have inspired me to do what I do, but they don't focus on that stuff, to my knowledge at least.

But, you know, these are trades that we will take because

if it's something trading $100,000 in daily volume and you need to unwind a $2 million position, if you were going to do it,

you would be paying a shitload in execution fees on the exchange.

You would have to sit there and just click, click, click for hours.

And it just, the chances of it working the way it would with you doing it versus us doing it would be very different.

You know, with us, you know, I could unline that trade.

It might take a month.

Might take even more than a month, but we can do it.

I think the SEC with new leadership is going to change their stance on crypto.

Hey, we'll see, man.

We'll see.

I think they will, too.

I think they will.

It's been hell the last five years.

Oh, man.

They've gone after every U.S.

crypto company.

All the big ones.

Yep.

Yep.

All the exchanges.

And thank God some of them are fighting back.

Yeah.

I mean, they don't have any other choice.

I mean, that's the thing.

Well, I mean, I don't think it's been the smartest thing

for the SEC to do.

They're pushing everybody offshore.

Yep.

And Trump just announced he wants no capital gains tax on U.S.

cryptos.

Yep.

Which is huge for you, right?

Yeah.

Well, I mean, it's huge for everybody.

Everybody, dude, because my clients are not just U.S.

or global.

Right.

But it's huge for everybody because what is it doing?

It's just further legitimizing the cryptocurrency industry.

Yeah.

And that just makes more eyes on crypto, more interest in crypto.

I mean, hell, there's a chance that, you know, the U.S.

Treasury ends up converting over to more of a digital system.

We'll see.

That'd be nuts.

There has been rumors of them having a digital coin, though, right?

Yeah.

I've heard that for years.

I mean, well, and Trump has said a lot of things about he wants, you know, the U.S.

to be the biggest crypto holder in the world.

Yeah.

Let's see what happens.

I think that'd be good for everybody.

That'd be major.

When did you first get into crypto?

Oh, man.

About 2013, 2014.

Yeah, very early.

There was a lot of that.

Let's be very real.

A lot of that's long gone.

But full-time professionally doing crypto since about 2016, 2017.

And was this the first crypto company you pursued?

No, it wasn't.

I launched a fund very early on, right at the peak of the first market push up and down.

Learned a lot, but ended up switching things up, going to a couple other avenues, venues, different things,

and finally found the niche of what I do now.

And I've just built a big team around it.

And not a big team.

Let me take that back.

Not a big team, but a very, very good team.

Dedicated, hungry people,

smart, smart, brilliant people.

I wanted to create the all-star team for execution.

I love that.

And you're one of the top, if not the top, in the world right now.

I mean, I'll say what, you know, in terms of size-wise, no, we're actually very, you know, very small in the grand scheme of things.

But in terms of how we operate and the things that we do and the way we operate,

I would say confidently, we're one of the best in the world at what we do.

I mean, numbers don't lie.

I mean, that's the thing is.

I mean, numbers don't lie.

And like, how about this?

How about a client retention rate of 100%?

Whoa.

That's what I like.

In crypto, that's unheard of.

I mean,

we're picky with who we work with.

And, you know, I like to just become friends with my clients, get to know them and better understand what they want.

So you mix friendship and business.

You know, business becomes friendship if you do it the right way.

Interesting.

Yeah, that's a tricky thing to balance sometimes.

It definitely is.

It definitely is.

But I think you're right.

If you do the business first, it's easier.

Of course.

I mean, always like for us, we always just want to keep the client's best interests at heart.

Like, I'm not greedy.

i'm probably the least greedy person in this entire industry wow um i've built the entire business off referrals um

and we don't market anything send me people bub

i'm gonna send you some people for sure that's what we got got you do you have mentors showing you how to do this stuff

mentors have been the world to me um i would not be where i'm at without good mentorship uh chicago is like the heart of a good you know trading i mean it's it's got the background with the futures industries everything that Chicago has done for the trading world.

I have a list of mentors that without them, I would not be here.

And

there's maybe top five that really stick out

that I talk to almost daily.

Okay.

Just get guidance.

Sometimes I just care about beers, shoot the shit.

Just talk about markets, talk about

problems that I'm going through or difficulties that I'm dealing with in terms of running the company or the business or certain just market situations.

situations, but the mentors have helped me learn so much.

And so then I like to really give back and like pay that forward.

So I try to like teach.

And my favorite part of my job, honestly, is like bringing new people on and like helping them grow and succeed.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They've saved me a ton of time, money, and stress, man.

Oh, dude, without a doubt.

Man, my first lawsuit, I was tripping.

Without a mentor.

Same, same.

Holy shit.

Yes, yes, dude.

I thought the world was ending.

So did I.

And now it's like, it's like, as I think you can agree, though, like, as you get older, problems that you thought were like huge at age 23 at the time they were.

But as you get older, you know, you get smarter as the problems get harder.

Yeah.

So yeah, shit's still tough now.

But if you're going to be real when you're mentoring somebody, you got to tell them like shit doesn't get easier.

Yeah, 100%.

They say money makes it easier, but I don't know.

Yeah, I mean, it makes it more enjoyable.

But

no, but it does not make it easier.

I mean,

it's all about like just learning.

It's like, I try to go into any scenario and learn.

So I'm actually curious of how you got to where you're at.

A lot of failure, honestly.

Lost all my money twice.

Had mental health issues.

Yeah.

The whole entrepreneurial journey.

I mean, it's not easy.

Nah, it gets glorified these days, which I don't think is

good on social media.

It's, I mean, that's why I really, I don't even have notifications for Instagram anymore.

I'm just like, I don't, don't want to see this shit.

Yeah.

It's a distraction.

And it's like so glorified of the positives.

Like, I've thought about just doing like a, you know, an Instagram page of real shit.

Like, oh, here's Tuesday.

I'm kind of pissed off today.

What do we got?

I thought about it too.

It just, let's be honest, doesn't get the views as the materialistic posts.

I mean, it's like, why the fuck should we be posting anyway?

Yeah, and the lifestyle posts, and that's how people get drawn into entrepreneurship.

It's crazy.

Which is a terrible thing.

No, but I'm all for that.

I love, I'm always like, say, say, some, I'm going to use an example, somebody that I went to college with, you know, or high school with starts a clothing brand, right?

I can 99.9% guarantee is going to fail.

I will still be the first person to buy that shit because I'm proud of them for taking the leap of faith.

You know what I mean?

The leap of faith to get out of corporate, to do their own thing.

Because even if you fail, which I've failed, you've failed.

We've all failed.

You still took the fucking leap of faith.

And that's like the hardest part at the start.

Yeah.

That's a big step.

I remember my first business was in the clothing space.

I thought it'd be a huge company.

I mean, but that's the, it could have been, but like,

what were you doing before that?

I was doing, I was just a college student.

I was broke.

But then I started an empowerment.

So you went straight into entrepreneurship.

Yeah, I never had a job that's crazy

i did corporate for like a year and i'm like nope i'm good on this like i knew it wasn't for me yeah it's working for someone else no i mean it's just like the freedom to do what you want but also like so okay so you had the leap of faith but you did it on your own that was just very cool well i had a safety net you know my mom's upper middle class so if it failed i knew i could just live in her basement or whatever so that and i tell you what if everything went to shit today i would rather go back and live in my parents basement for two years if i had to that's where i to rebuild something yeah i'd rather do that than you know not try at all.

Yeah, exactly.

Paying college debt and six figures.

Which, what are your thoughts on college debt?

Oh, it's terrible.

I mean, we just paid off my fiancés and it was just like years of interest.

And yeah, it's terrible.

It's crazy.

I just don't know.

Is it going to stay?

Is it going to go away?

Who the fuck knows?

I know.

I thought it was going to go away at one time, but someone vetoed it or something.

I don't know, man.

Did you go to college?

I did.

I did.

I went to University of Missouri.

Okay.

Was it worth it?

I mean,

was it worth it?

Yes.

I'm not going to regret going.

I made a lot of good friends, but

I had a lot of fun.

Okay.

That's where the partying started for you?

We had a good time.

But still, you know,

I definitely learned a lot about

people and interacting with people.

In terms of the coursework, there's been many times I've been like, yeah, I would much more appreciate some of those business classes now.

Yeah.

But even then, like, why would I go back now?

I mean, I graduated.

I have a degree.

What's your degree?

It's business marketing and finance.

Okay.

Yeah.

So you're actually using that.

I mean, I am, but like, you know, realistically, did I actually learn the stuff there that I do here?

I don't know, man.

I'm sure the principles are there.

Yeah.

But I think for me at least, hands-on and being in the, you know, in the grind doing this stuff is where you really learn it all.

We got to talk about your mottos.

No, the mottos, man.

You got three mottos.

I do.

I have three models of life that I highly encourage other people to put in there.

No, I have it.

I had it.

My phone's over there, but I had it as the wallpaper of my phone, and I still do.

But I would send it to other people, and I got to the point where I had to put my fucking signature on it because everybody else was using it.

Model one, fuck them all.

I'll explain that because the second that you stop caring about what other people think is when your life really changes, in my opinion.

We can come back to that.

Rule two, model two is a question that you can ask yourself.

And it applies to almost any situation.

Rule two,

does it make a difference?

Because most of the time it doesn't actually make a difference.

Like, you know, you'd be like pissed off, you're stuck in traffic, you know, this, that.

Does it actually make a difference?

No.

It really doesn't.

You know, in a deal setting setting or this or that, or whatever.

Ask yourself the question: does it make a difference?

Probably doesn't.

Rule three is the toughest one of all.

Don't overthink shit.

Very difficult.

Yeah.

I'm an overthinker, but if you combine all three of these and take a deep breath every now and then, not too bad.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I love all those.

Yeah.

The overthinking, man.

I used to be the biggest overthinker.

I still am.

I would lay in bed at night and think about shit.

I mean, I was just telling you,

I was texting my team this morning at two in the morning, like, what do you think of this?

What do you think of this?

Yeah, but I mean, it's

taking a step back is not the worst thing.

Yeah, you got to be in the present.

Yeah, the first one, though, that was a game changer.

I grew up a massive people pleaser, and I would put other people before me for like probably 20 years.

And that's how do you do it now?

I don't do it now.

I mean, I'm still pretty giving, I think, but in the right setting.

But now I really got to put me and my family first.

You have to.

I mean, it's at the end of the day, the only thing you can

actually control is yourself.

Yeah.

And that's hard to realize, hard to understand.

And I'm still the same way too.

Like, I'm a people pleaser still, but I'm learning every day that I need to focus on me too.

Yeah, yeah, it's from for me at least, it's from childhood trauma, not fitting in, trying to like please everyone.

Yeah, no, I've also got childhood trauma as well, man.

It's tough.

I think everybody's got some sort of trauma in their life.

Yeah.

And it's just how you kind of fuel that energy into like something positive.

Yeah.

Well, I noticed a lot of entrepreneurs have some deep trauma, actually.

Yeah, that's like, actually, it's funny you mentioned that.

And this was not at all planned, by the way.

But it's funny you mentioned that because I think that there should be some sort of a i've been thinking about maybe doing a nonprofit or something um

specifically geared towards like high level and high achieving people mental health because i've found like i'm more likely to talk to you as another successful entrepreneur about difficult scenarios or like problems that I'm going through because you've probably been through very similar ones.

So it's like, you know, being able to like talk to that stuff, not more like mentor to mentee, but like just friend to friend.

And like, I don't know, it's interesting.

Yeah, like AA, but just entrepreneurial trauma.

Yeah, we could, yeah, exactly.

We can think of a fucking fun name for it, but I mean, we'll see.

But I mean, it's just like, it's just, there's a lot of trauma.

Dude, fucking half the days that we go through are traumatic.

Like, you know, there's days where we have great days.

There's days we have shit days.

And that's something you got to realize.

It's not going to be up and up the whole time.

No, I mean, nothing moves up in a straight line.

Yeah.

So now when I have bad days, I'm like, all right, that was needed.

Things have been too good.

I mean, the timing is always right on point where it should be.

I mean, you don't realize it in the moment, but maybe a year from now you do.

Yeah, absolutely.

What's been some of the highs for you and some of the lows?

Highs and lows in general or what?

Yeah, more specific.

With your business stuff, I guess.

With business, man,

shit,

the last year and a half, two years, banking has been tough in the United States.

It's been a really tough problem to do anything crypto banking.

You got shut down?

Yeah, man.

I mean, but like different accounts, you know, the major banks, they just hate crypto.

And I think a lot of this is tainted by the bad actors in the game.

Like we were just talking about the kid who did the massive rug yesterday.

I mean, there's fucking crypto.

It was massive.

I mean, for him, it was fucking massive.

They're just like, you know, like, that's the kind of thing that makes crypto look bad.

And then it's like, you know,

you know, I think a lot of people screw up with their banking and have screwed people like you and I on our banking.

I tell my banking people, I'm like, this is exactly what I do.

Here's how my business is going to work.

Here's how the flow of funds is going to work.

This is what I do.

Boom.

And they're okay with it until they're not.

Then all of a sudden, boom, accounts are shut.

Yep.

I got banned because someone that was in crypto just sent me money.

Just was somebody random?

Like he got banned.

So like, I guess everyone he sent money to got banned too.

What did he do?

I don't know.

That's the problem, though, is see bad actors in the space.

Probably, yeah.

I mean, but now you can breathe and it'll kill your account.

Like, it's ridiculous.

It's nuts, dude.

I mean, there's probably, I don't know, five, six different crypto banks in the U.S.

that I think do a fantastic job, but they want you to keep a million on reserve.

It's like, why the fuck are we not trading that?

Like, I should be trading that money, not leaving it in the account.

Yeah, banking, I'm on my third one, man.

So, hopefully, they figure that out with the bank.

And which one are you using?

Got to keep a million in there?

I'm going to keep that secret.

We got to talk about your dog, man.

Yeah, the dog.

Wait, wait, wait.

Which part?

You painted your labradoodle.

So, so, okay.

So, long story short, the name of the company Ace Trading is actually because my dog, his name is Ace.

He's about, he actually dude, today's his birthday.

He turns five today.

He turns five today.

Yeah.

So you got to go home, get him a cake and whatnot.

But no, so whenever I've made this company, created this company, I'm like, what the hell should I name this thing?

And somebody jokingly said, just name it after your dog.

And I was like, fuck it.

We'll just name it Ace.

And afterwards, I was like, actually, this is a great idea because it's a three-letter word and it starts with A.

So it's at the top of every list

of every like directory, A, Ace, boom, easy.

And I like the way, like, if you think about how

two of my counterparties are talking, like, oh, who'd you execute that trade-through?

Like, oh, I did it through ACE.

It just sounds good.

Clean.

It's clean.

So, yeah, so Ace trading my second dog, my younger dog.

So he's actually named after Dom Perry Young.

So he's Dom.

So I have Ace and Dom.

Ace of Spades.

Dom Perion.

So one of my off-shorts, he's called Dom Cap.

So I'm either going to have to find more alcohol brands or more, I don't know, but definitely.

So, so yes, back to your point, yeah, for Halloween a couple years ago The groomer he was like yeah, we should we should paint him like do some like dog dye and this is before everybody was doing it.

Yeah, because now it's pretty common.

It's all over the internet, but no, he looked like a Bengal tiger for a fucking year.

It lasted a year.

Damn.

Yeah.

Cars would pull over on the side of the road.

Holy crap.

Yeah, we'll throw up the image on the on the pod.

Oh, yeah.

No, there's some good ones.

There's a lot of good ones.

He looked straight up.

And people, I like to fuck with people.

It's like I'd be walking the dog and people would be like, oh, like, what kind of dog is that?

Like, is it and i like it got to the point where it got asked so frequently that i have like a full tale of the story like oh yeah it's a tiger doodle like like no way i'm like yeah i think he's like the second or third one in chicago and like uh you know like no way i'm like yeah yeah look him up on google blah blah blah yeah people loved it but i didn't because i didn't realize the walks would take 10 times as long ah

That's funny, dude.

I love dogs, though.

I got two dogs.

What kind of you have?

Australian Shepherd and Golden Mountain Dog.

Golden Mountain Dog.

You heard about it?

No.

It's a Golden Retriever and Bernie's Mountain Dog.

Okay, so yeah, I've got the Golden Doodle Ace and then the Aussie Doodle Dom.

Nice.

So the energy of the Aussies, man.

Oh, man.

He's bouncing off the walls all day.

That's

how old is he?

He's just turned six.

Okay, yeah, yeah.

So, yeah, man.

This ace is five today.

Dom is one.

Yeah.

Dom is fucking nuts.

I bet.

That young puppy energy.

Dogs changed my life, though.

Same, same.

I had terrible anxiety before.

Same, bro.

And it went away as soon as I got one.

Yep.

Isn't that crazy?

And they, like, they sense your energy.

Like, if I'm in one of those moods and I just sit down on the couch, or anybody, anybody that's at my house, they will both go to sleigh biome.

Crazy.

And just chill.

Yeah, they'll won.

I agree, man, though.

Ace and Tom saved my life.

Yeah, if you guys are dealing with anxiety, get a dog.

A thousand percent.

Game changer.

What's next for you, man?

What are you working on?

Just building, building, building.

I mean,

now the banking is, you know, for what I can tell, knock on, but solved, we can actually scale the business.

Nice.

The company just hit its year mark back in September.

So very proud of all that we've achieved this year.

Damn, a year old?

Yeah, this company, yeah.

Damn.

This company is a year old.

Well, a little bit over, but I was doing similar stuff before and ended up just kind of spinning this company out of the last company I'd founded

with just, you know, bigger goals.

And I really want to push this thing, you know.

It's

a very niche service, the way we do things, the way we trade and like service our clients.

Very like

high-end white glove service.

It's all objective-based, like I said.

My goal is to keep expanding, growing, building, teaching the team you know the the right attitude the mentals you know the morals of the company just doing the right thing not fucking people over and that's another thing in this business i feel like happens way too often is people just they're all for like one rip off somebody and then one and done like i don't want to just make a rip off somebody and audio spy i want to have them as a client for life.

I think that's why even moving company to company from leaving my last firm to this, I have 100% client retention rate.

i've got the best clients ever like without them and my network none of this would have been possible i love it uh but but i want to get you know if if if somebody new comes in as a client i want to service them so well that they are they are always thinking about me they're thinking about my business they hear crypto they think nick murphy they think ace trading because i want them i want their cousins i want their brother i want their friends everybody is clients and to provide everybody the same level of just top-notch service that's the way to do it man yeah because crypto space man there's a lot of scams There's a lot of scams.

There's a lot of like, you know, there's a lot of really good people, a lot of not scams, let's be real.

But there's a lot of bullshit, too.

Yeah.

And it's like,

you know, a friend and another mentor of mine once told me,

I won't get into business what he does, but, but he once told me, you shouldn't worry about that.

That's what I'm here for.

I'm here to worry about that for you.

So it's like, if, if, if we're, you know, involved in anything crypto, uh, execution-wise, it's like, don't worry about it.

I don't want my people to worry about it.

Like, let us deal with it and handle it for you.

It's like, if you're sick, what do you do?

Do you go to the doctor or do you go to your buddy that went to med school for a semester?

I go to the doctor.

If you get legal, if you need legal help, what do you do?

Do you go to an attorney or do you go to like a fraternity brother that maybe went to like half a semester and fucked off?

Yeah.

Or Chat GPT.

I was going to say.

No, it's like, so when it comes to trading, like if you want to do, if you want to execute large-scale trades with little to no market impact, come to me.

Come to us.

Come to Ace.

It's a great service because people don't realize when you have that much and you sell, you don't get all of that in cash.

Buy, sell, whatever it is.

I mean, crypto to crypto, fiat to crypto.

Like, if you don't do it the smart way, you know, like and execute it, you know, we are 100% algorithmic.

Like, we'll chip away positions and not impact the market.

That's the whole goal.

That's the key.

Because when you sell a big position, you can tank a coin like

5%, 10%.

Easily.

If not more.

Yeah.

Yeah, I've seen some wild slippage, actually.

I mean, that's especially with some of the DeFi coins now.

Yeah.

Yeah, we actually have been able to.

I've got a good friend that built out a DeFi execution platform, like a DeFi execution layer that's, I think he's going to be releasing soon.

But

like I said, a good friend of mine, we've been using it some here and there.

But it actually allows us to trade high frequency in DeFi.

Wow.

Without incurring all those fees of gas.

Sometimes we have positive slippage.

What?

Yeah.

How is that possible?

That's more technical than I.

But yeah, no, I mean, keep an eye out for that.

I mean,

there's a lot of things cooking.

Hell yeah.

We'll link your site below and your Instagram.

Anything else, my man?

You know, I really just want to appreciate you bringing us on.

And yeah, man, just keep doing what you're doing.

I'm proud of you as an entrepreneur.

Thank you.

Great meeting you, man.

You as well.

Yep.

Thank you for watching, guys.

Peace.