Digital Marketing Secrets from a Casino Power Player | Jerry Morris DSH #918

You're a casino's dream personality, dude.

Yes, without a doubt, for sure.

You drink while you play.

Yeah, I drink aggressively while I play, too.

Honestly, it's like sometimes I do sober days, and like all the bartenders and waitresses will laugh because when they come in, they like to kill the shops.

We're like, nope, not this time.

All right, guys, Jerry Morris here today.

First podcast in a while, right?

Yeah, it's been years.

Dude, why the break?

I don't know.

I feel like I just gave up on posting content myself.

And your podcast podcast is dope.

So that was easy to do.

I feel like, dude, do you feel like you got lost in the social media sauce?

Yeah, getting lost in helping other people's brands on social media.

I feel like caring more about others than my own content.

So there's just never a need for podcasts.

It didn't really help benefit me in any way, I feel like.

But, you know, I watch yours all the time.

I love the clips and everything.

They're good.

I appreciate that.

Pods are making comeback.

I thought they were dead years ago.

Dude, they are booming right now.

I feel like they're booming more than ever.

Bro, two of them this week sold for nine figures.

I saw that.

And multiple in the past that sold for nine figures.

Six this year.

Yeah, podcasts are in.

They're back, back, man.

For sure.

What have you been up to, though?

Been up to, you know, sports betting businesses, social media businesses, just staying in that lane.

I'm definitely not a content creator myself, but just helping market and, you know, helping other people with their businesses.

Yeah.

How'd you get involved in sports betting?

I mean, I've gambled most of my life, I'd say.

I've always sports bet, but just opportunities just align through social media and through knowing people where

basically being able to help other people, you know,

scaling businesses.

What have been your biggest bets that you've made?

The biggest bet this year I made was 20,000 on a five-team parlay.

I don't know, like over a million dollars.

And it lost first leg.

You were confident with that one.

Yeah, I was.

That's basically when I'll bet sports, like I'll start somewhere and just kind of raise it up.

So if I win, then I'm happy to put more on it and I'll keep doing that.

And then eventually I'll get to like where I'm comfortable to throw 20K on something.

But obviously when that loses, it's sad and then I kind of chill back out.

Jeez.

What's your best sport to bet on?

Baseball, for sure.

Really?

It's the only sport I actually enjoy betting on.

I feel like, because baseball, I I played in college.

I played it my whole life.

When I watch it, I feel like I'm pretty good at it.

When other sports, the Lions, the Vegas is too good at what they do with Lions.

I feel like I'm not sharp at all.

I'm kind of a degenerate with gambling.

I'm just guessing.

I'm flipping a coin.

How do you win flipping a coin over and over and over again?

It's like playing Baccarat, guessing the same thing.

And just, you know, I feel like it's a losing edge.

So baseball, I feel like I can actually win.

I feel like I win every year and begins.

That makes sense.

And you've helped Sean Perry grow a lot too, right?

Yeah, me and Sean have done things together in business and helped him with marketing.

And, you know, Sean's killing it.

He's obviously, Sean is a sharp in sports betting, so it's a little bit easy to help brand someone that's actually proven to be a good gambler.

So it's fun working with him.

Yeah, I've seen him make some crazy bets, dude.

Yeah, he put a million on the Super Bowl last year.

1.2, I think, actually.

He lost.

That was on screen.

He did lose crazy last ending.

That was actually the biggest bet of the entire year because, yeah, like on screen, like meaning like a ticket with a bet slip.

Yeah, MGM confirmed that was the biggest bet of the Super Bowl.

Wow.

And you can't even go to a sports ticket right now and try to bet a million dollars at any window.

Damn.

Yeah, they have limits pretty much everywhere, especially if you're good.

Sean's limited from most casinos.

He can't even bet at most sports books.

If he does, they'll let him, if he wants to bet 100K, they'll let him bet five or one or one dollar, and then they'll move the whole line on him.

And it ruins everything else he's trying to do.

So he stays away from sports books for the most part.

Dude, I saw some crazy post literally two days ago about sports books.

MGM lost 70 million.

In sports.

In sports books.

So the only way that I feel like that could happen is if

the public is really winning a lot, which does happen from time to time.

But in general, it's like anything else in gambling.

Casinos exist because the house always wins.

I feel like they definitely have an edge.

So, unless the public wins huge, that's the only way I could see that happening.

That's why I was surprised.

It was last month.

So I don't know if they felt like

surprising.

Yeah.

Probably just a public run where things weren't going.

The end of the day with sports, you're betting on humans to do things, and humans are humans.

Sometimes, you know, acts of God happen.

I've won a huge parlay last year where I needed a home run with one outlet in the ninth inning, and it happened.

No, I made like 180K.

What?

It was crazy.

holy so you know random things like that probably shouldn't have happened but got lucky obviously geez so are you up or down on sports betting overall uh sports betting overall up just because of baseball season i i don't really bet a lot on other sports and baseball i i consistently win multi-six figures every every year in baseball for sure that's pretty good to just have on the side like just degenerate parlays dude you know oh you do parlays only yeah parlays only that's like the worst odds i thought yeah they are everyone thinks i'm an idiot um everyone thinks i'm an idiot until they win and then if i hit like two or three lucky ones in a row like i said i'll scale scale up.

So if I hit that 20k one, you know, it kind of sets the tone forever after.

You're fucking wild.

You're like the Mickey Mace of the sports better club.

I definitely can't say that.

But yeah, definitely.

I mean, I enjoy it.

I'm definitely no professional sports better by any means at all.

I would never tell anyone to take my picks, honestly.

It's a risky game to get into.

Yeah, for sure.

I don't even, I mean, I like to gamble, right?

Like, I have.

cards on my forearm.

So, I mean, it's part of my personality, I guess.

I've always done it, but I wouldn't really suggest people to gamble unless, like, for me, I like to use it for networking.

Yeah.

Like, I've met most of my clients or my biggest clients or my closest friends through gambling one way or another.

Really?

And that's how I met Sean Perry through gambling.

You were at a casino betting?

Yeah, I was at a casino betting, and one of our hosts linked me with one of his friends, and his friends linked me with him, and it went full circle.

So I try to gamble more for the networking than I do, like to try to actually win money, because I feel like I'm realistically going to lose long-term gambling, especially table games.

No, that's smart.

Things like that.

You're not going to win long-term.

Might as well get something out of it because if you network with someone, then you make money with them.

You're not going to make your money back.

Yeah, exactly.

That's how I look at it.

Maybe I'm a gambler justifying it to some extent, but

yeah, obviously that's definitely the way I do it.

I try to network every time I'm gambling.

If I lose money, I hope to meet at least one to three people that I can do business with, make money with, or whether it's six months down the line, do some deal with that'll end up bringing you back full circle.

100%.

And the host strategy is smart, being friends with casino hosts.

Yeah, yeah.

Casino everyone.

Yeah, and the way if you gamble, you know, somewhat often or more than the average person, you should be using stuff from host anyway.

Like, I try to take full advantage of it.

Most of my hosts joke with me and laugh about it because I'll just try to abuse it.

Yeah, they be competent.

Yeah, hotels, food, you know, cars, the win competition.

It's 1.5 mil a month.

And you know what's crazy?

Wynn is in my experience, no disrespect to Wynn.

They don't give me anything.

Oh, really?

Yeah, I tried once because I like Wynn.

I think it's a nice vibe, but I usually gamble at like ARIA or Red Rock mainly.

Those are the two casinos that, you know, they treat me well.

I have really good relationships with hosts, and I love being there overall.

Good vibe.

But Wynn, I don't really gamble much.

I tried to get a host there once, and like, they've given me a couple free hotel rooms, but it's not like the same experience as I go to like Aria or Red Rock.

That's just my opinion.

No, I feel that because I think a lot of ballers go there.

So like 10K at the win is not.

I was going to say, yeah, 10 to 50K, 10 to 100K, I would say is probably nothing to win versus the people that are probably getting a jet and wiring in 5 million or have 5 to 10 million on credit.

Yeah, the ballers go to win.

Absolutely.

Yeah, Wynn has the ballers.

Red Rock's more the local vibe.

I like Red Rock.

Yeah, I like Red Rock a lot.

Obviously, you know, just being local, being in Summerlin, kind of off the strip, they're never going to have like the same action like MGM or Wynn would, but Red Rock's a great vibe vibe in our world the social media and you know influencers everyone's there it's like it's always a fun time it's like a party being in that high limit room absolutely if you go after a ufc event it's electric yeah it's my favorite time to go social electric dana white's out there aiden ross yep yeah i've uh i've seen them gamble i've been in the same room as them gambling they they gamble crazy it's really win or lose uh i've seen both of them win and i don't think i've ever seen dana lose wow yeah honestly i haven't seen dana gamble often maybe like two or three times but he was winning the times i watched it seems like every time i see him on social media he wins yeah i mean he's smart about about it, though.

That's why.

I feel like there's been videos about the way he gambles.

Like, he'll go in, win, and then leave right after.

Yeah.

Like, that's typically not the way I gamble.

I usually stay in there way too long.

Yeah, you're drinking, too.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

I'm charging shots.

I feel like Dana's very smart about it.

I don't even know Dana personally, but just seeing clips of him, the way he gambles, he seems like a real sharp dude.

For sure.

You're a casino's dream personality.

Yes, without a doubt, for sure.

You drink while you play.

Yeah.

Oh, I drink aggressively while I play, too.

Honestly, it's like sometimes I do sober days days and like all the bartenders and waitresses will laugh because like when they come in they're like to kill the shots we're like nope not this time you know it's hard to turn non-free drinks though for real yeah and honestly like like i said uh before when we were uh starting up i don't really like party at clubs as much or like house parties like i used to when i was younger obviously but for like my type of partying vibe i would say is more you know going to a casino and drinking and like gambling whatever i'm comfortable gambling that day like that's more of a party than going and spending money at a club i used to live in miami for three years i did all that you know spending a lot of money at clubs and i think it's stupid now Dude, I'd rather be around people I like and meet new people.

Like in a club, it's loud.

You're not meeting anyone.

You leave, your ears are ringing, and you look at your credit card the next day, hungover, like, why the fuck did I do any of that?

Spend 10K on a table that cost them nothing.

10, 20, 30, whatever it might be.

It's you spent 30 on a table?

I have in the past, yeah.

Holy crap.

That must have been during like a Super Bowl or something.

Yeah, and there was just one really degenerate month we had in Miami.

It was like me and three friends.

We spent way too much money across four weekends.

I live.

Jeez.

And that was like two or three years ago.

Was it in the cluster or was it just on a table?

It was at one or two really large tables together, and it was every weekend.

Jeez.

So yeah, I used to like walk into Live, and people would say, like, welcome back, baby boy.

That was way too well known at Liv.

Yeah, I was way too well known at Liv.

That was like the past, though.

Yeah, I went through that club phase in like, I don't know, right after college.

Yeah.

So over it, though.

You know, it's funny.

So I've moved a lot in my life.

I grew up in New York.

After New York, I went to school in Springfield, Mass.

After college, I went to New York City.

After New York City, City, I went to Miami.

After Miami, I went to Vegas.

Every single time, I said, I'm not going to party the same way I did before.

And I did exactly what I did before.

So that's like I always do.

Even in Vegas, you're going to the clubs here?

No, not clubs.

Now, like, I'll drink while I'm gambling or, you know, more of that type of setting.

But in the idea of like, I'm not going to drink a lot.

I'm going to get healthy.

I'm going to lift.

Like, I'm going to do three months sober.

And then it never happens.

So I think the people you're around, you know.

Yeah, you are who you surround yourself with.

I could definitely agree with that.

Yeah, you got some degenerates around you, man.

Yeah.

I mean, you know, doing business in the gambling world and enjoying it uh and obviously enjoying drinking i feel like that's my personality i'm very extroverted and yeah you know like to party like to have fun like to have fun for everyone else too you're only young ones man it yeah maybe i'll grow up one day yeah i don't think you'll die with any regrets no definitely not for sure that's what i respect about you yeah some people just They're so plain.

I don't know how to describe it.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah.

I couldn't see myself ever living that way, honestly.

I like to do it.

I've always said this.

I like to do whatever I want, whatever I want.

And I always try to live my life up to that standard.

And if I can't, then I have to work harder at whatever I'm doing to be able to do it.

Would you say you're an adrenaline junkie?

Um, yeah, I would say that.

Yeah, for sure.

You like the thrill?

I like the thrill, yeah.

And I like doing adventurous stuff.

I love cliff jumping.

I love uh, you know, skydiving, yeah, stuff like that.

So, yeah, I would say I'm an adrenaline junkie.

Yeah, not to the point where I'll go out of my way to do a bunch of stuff, but like if it if the opportunity presents itself, yeah, I'm there.

You'll be sure, yeah.

What's the highest cliff you've jumped off of?

Probably like 50 feet.

That's fucking high.

I've done 40 and I was shitting myself.

Yeah, 40 is kind of crazy.

They're high.

It was only because I'm kind of sketched out about it too, in a way, right?

Like, if it's there's a place in my hometown where there's like 50-foot cliffs and buildings, and it's like a quarry, but the water is pitched like perfect blue, yeah.

So, like, you can take a GoPro down there 20 feet under and see yourself and film yourself.

Like, jumping into that, like, I'm comfortable, you know.

When I was younger and stupid, I would jump into like crazy cliffs with like black water, you don't know what the hell's underneath, you don't know if you're hitting a crane underneath, like, more scary stuff, you know.

No, it is risky.

The risk to reward on cliff jumping doesn't really seem there, yeah.

That's why it's got to be the right setting, but I love doing it for sure.

It's like a fun hobby.

I've seen someone do 80.

I know people that have done 80 into 11 feet at the bottom at Fawn's Leap in New York.

I think it's definitely hit.

Maybe it's 60.

Yeah, you do.

Like when you land, you have to kind of curve your body.

Yeah.

But it's always really sketchy.

And it's like, it might not be 80, it might be like 60, but you have to like climb, like there's a cliff and you have to climb a tree all the way up.

What the?

And yeah, when I watch people do it, I'm like, that's too psychotic for me.

Like, I would never do that.

That's the next level.

Skydiving's pretty crazy, though.

I love skydiving.

I haven't done it yet.

Really?

You definitely have to.

I want to.

Skydiving is, it's really, it's a crazy experience.

It happens so fast.

The stomach drop in your stomach is something like a roller coaster can't give it to you.

It's way crazy.

Oh, it's that bad.

Yeah, it's awesome, though.

And like your face is like, you know, wind's pushing against it.

So it's fun, though.

I always joked when I was younger saying, like, I'd love to wake up every day and jump out of a plane, like get my skydiving license.

And that was like three years ago, and I never did it.

But I've skydived probably like four or five times in my life.

And if someone ever asked me to do it, I'd be like, yeah.

Yeah.

So next time I go to Dubai, I definitely want to skydive.

I'll definitely take you up on that offer.

Don't you need like a thousand jumps to get your license?

I think it's something like that.

Maybe it's less, honestly.

I don't think it's crazy.

apparently skydiving is more safe than driving a car no which i guess statistically makes sense right there's people driving cars everywhere and there's less accidents and skydiving than there is cars yeah but yeah apparently that's a stat i don't know how true it is or not i also heard flying safer than driving cars that i could believe too i could see there's not many plane crashes yeah i mean there's definitely not yeah um there's a lot of accidents it's the same idea though statistically right like planes versus cars Every person has a car.

Everyone's driving to get everywhere.

We both had to drive here to get here today, you know?

Yeah.

Versus we're not flying here, which would be crazy if we could.

I'm looking into a driver right now, dude.

Really?

I think you should.

I study all these top entrepreneurs, and a lot of them have drivers.

Yeah, I mean, it makes sense if you're busy and you're doing stuff on your phone.

Like, that makes sense to me.

That's a good, like, positive ROI investment because, you know, if you're being driven and you're making money or, you know, doing your business while you're being driven, why drive?

Yeah.

Versus even risking using your phone while you're driving.

100%.

I wish I had a driver.

I was going to do that when I lived in Miami.

Just never really pulled the trigger.

Driving would be great for it because all the traffic.

Yeah.

Like a sprinter van.

I think if you need a sprinter, like a dope ass, like Maybach or

Miami.

It's a little up in style too.

Yeah, exactly.

One of those cities.

I'd say Miami and Vegas too.

There's a lot of nice cars out here too.

It's not like Miami where like every Lambo you see, you're wondering if it's rented or not.

Out here, they're more scarce.

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah.

You big on cars?

Yeah, I like cars a lot.

I'm big on anything that like you do every day.

So like I'll spend a lot of money on a car.

I'll spend a lot of money on my mattress or my pillow.

Facts.

Anything I'm doing every day that affects my life, I definitely love.

And I do love cars, yeah.

Dude, I agree on the mattress.

I used to cheap out on those.

Oh, no.

I couldn't.

I couldn't.

I just spent 4K on the mattress.

No way.

I think the most I spent on a mattress was 7K.

And I financed it in Miami.

And I ended up moving six months later.

And I left the mattress because I was hurt.

I tore through ligaments in my foot.

I had no one to help me move.

And I was just like, you know what?

Fuck everything.

Like, I'm leaving whatever's here.

I'm just taking the loss.

Whoever scored that is.

Yeah, I was so pissed.

Yeah, I bought a eight sleep.

Have you heard of those?

No, they.

Dude, it tracks everything.

Oh, really?

So you have like a smart mattress.

Yeah.

Okay, cool.

I used it for the first time last night.

Dude, it freaking tracks how long long you snore.

Wow.

So I snored for eight minutes.

It tracks how long you're in deep sleep.

Okay.

It tracks the temperature of your body.

It's nuts.

Really?

Yeah.

I don't sleep well, I feel like, just in general.

I feel like I've like, my brain is so ADHD.

Like the second I think of something or I'll try not to even get up and go to the bathroom in the middle of the night.

Because if I do, my brain will just activate and then I can't go back to sleep.

I'll toss and turn.

I'll sit on my phone.

I'll end up starting to work at 5 or 6 a.m.

or 4 a.m.

just because it's like I can't go back to sleep.

Like, screw it.

You're just constantly.

Yeah.

And then I feel like my lack of sleep by doing that over time, eventually I'll snore the whole time.

So I'd rather not have a mattress that tracks that because that'd probably be pretty embarrassing to say stats.

Dude, I used to think like that, too.

Like, I could not sleep at night.

I realized I had to physically tire my body out during the day.

Yeah, I literally, I feel like I can't.

I used to like smoke weed to go to sleep, and I used to tell myself I had to.

And I got away from that.

I was like, I'm going to do a self-experiment with myself.

That's not true.

It's just like a belief that I made myself believe in.

And now I don't need to smoke to go to sleep, but I still don't sleep well.

So it doesn't make a difference.

Yeah, I will say sleep has definitely optimized my life because I used to skip out on sleep for five hours a day.

Something I feel like would help my life greatly if I got more.

Oh, it would.

Yeah.

You'd be a new person.

And I feel like that's like proven already.

I feel like that just science, you know, as humans.

Yeah.

I'm sure you see a huge difference, right?

No, for sure.

How much attention do you pay to health?

It goes in waves.

There's times where I really lock in.

I focus on everything.

I focus on my diet.

I focus on lifting,

but not enough.

I mean, you know, whole first conversation, we're talking about drinking and farming.

You bailed a lot on more basketball invites.

Yeah, I have.

Yeah, that's true.

It's kind of embarrassing.

And I actually love basketball too.

So I used to love it a lot more.

I hurt my foot two years ago snowboarding, and it's never been the same since.

And that's kind of why I bail on it too.

When I played basketball, like I played for the first time since playing with you months ago,

like three days ago.

And after like five runs, I was like limping up the court.

I was like, yeah, I'm nervous to play basketball.

I'm nervous to snowboard.

And speaking of not caring about health, I probably should have done more PT.

I probably still should should do PT.

The injury was two years ago.

So what was the injury?

I tore three full ligaments in my left foot snowboarding on the last run.

Dude, yeah, it was really brutal, bro.

I was in crutches for six months.

I didn't need surgery, but that was, I'm someone that's like very happy at all times.

Like I have a tattoo of a smiley face on myself for that reason.

Like generally, I'm pretty happy.

I don't let things that I can't control bother me.

That was like the most depressed I've been in my entire life, probably.

That injury?

Yeah, that injury because like it was like six months of, I had to move out of my building.

I lived in the Epic Building in Miami on like the little townhouses.

And I had to crutch.

It took me probably 30 minutes to crutch to my house and back.

What?

I had stairs in my crutches.

Yeah, because it was so far away.

I had stairs in my house.

So I'm on crutches.

I couldn't, I wasn't even sleeping upstairs in my bed.

Holy shit.

And I was just so frustrated, dude.

Like, especially in Miami heat, like to get down from my house to go to wherever I have to go.

I would crutch.

I'd be sweating my ass off.

And then I have to go stand outside and sweat more.

And I'll never forget one time I was like crutching to my McLaren.

Yeah.

And like, you know, the crutches barely fit in the McLaren.

Like trying to do everything I can to get them in there.

I have the window down, like, they're hanging out the window.

And the whole Spurs basketball team was pulling up to the hotel because where I live was like a hotel and residency.

And every Spurs basketball player just had their phone out, just laughing at me filming.

I was like, yeah, I get it.

Struggling.

That's rough.

It was funny, though.

You're making me not want to go snowboarding ever.

Snowboarding was probably my favorite thing that I've ever done in my life.

Like, that's like my happy place.

Talk about adrenaline junkie.

I go down the mountain as fast as I can with my knees bent, literally pure, just vertical straight down as fast as possible.

Damn.

I don't do park.

I don't try try to do jumps.

I literally just go straight down.

Holy shit.

And yeah, it's honestly missing it the last two years is like, that's, it's sad.

So you hit a bump and you just went flying and then so we were with a bunch of people that don't regularly snowboard.

And I hate doing that, honestly.

I try to avoid that, but it was a big group of people.

Not even, it's like everyone's going so slow, you know, they need your help.

Like when I, like I said, I like to go down the mountain full speed.

Yep.

When you're with someone, it's like you're either going to leave them at the top of the mountain and then they're panicking.

And, you know, I'm big on people should get lessons if they snowboard or ski.

Like get lessons so you can do it yourself without, you know, bothering someone that is really good.

But so we were with this big group of people the whole time.

I was going so slow.

The last two runs, finally, everyone went in.

Me and my friend Chris were like, screw it.

Let's just full vertical down the full mountain.

Like, let's get, you know, what we want out of this.

Did it the first time?

It was dark.

It was icy.

We couldn't see well.

First one was really sketchy.

We did it fine.

And then we were like, screw it.

Let's do one more.

And that second one, like, I took, it was the worst fall ever.

Like, I probably toppled 50 feet down the mountain just tumbling over and over and over again.

Holy shit.

Because you couldn't see what was in front of you?

I just, I clipped a little piece of ice while I was probably going like 50 miles an hour.

And literally, I toppled so far down that mountain.

And the way it ended was like my feet just collapsed straight downward.

Oh, my.

So, like, that's like what hurt.

I don't even know how I didn't break both feet, but just my left foot.

Like, I knew it right away.

Like, right away.

I was like, my foot's broken.

Like, call someone.

Like, my foot's broken, I'm sure.

I see it.

And it's so cold you didn't feel the pain, right?

I felt, I didn't feel it immediately, but I knew it.

Like, I do really well with pain too.

I broke my arm snowboarding in the past, too, and it was the same thing.

Like, someone came and helped me.

I was like, my arm's broken.

Like, very calm.

And they were like, are you sure?

I was strong.

I was like, bro, my arm's broken.

That's nuts.

They were like checking me for concussions.

I was like, my arm is broken.

So with pain,

I do really well with it.

So like I knew for sure.

Yeah.

But it wasn't like excruciating.

I wasn't like screaming or crying.

I was more just sitting there like, damn, bro, I really just broke my foot.

I was just thinking about the crutches, bro.

I hate crutches.

I hate crutches.

They need to invent something better.

Yeah, thank God it wasn't both feet.

Could have been in the wheelchair.

I've been in a wheelchair.

Oh, really?

I tore my glute in track and field.

No way.

How long were you in a wheelchair for?

Fucking a week in high school.

So people had to push me around to class.

It was embarrassing.

You probably got out of class like 10 minutes early.

Yeah, I had to.

That was lit, but no, it was embarrassing, dude.

Yeah, that's like, I wouldn't be embarrassed by it, but it sucks.

It's like, that's like a real struggle.

You need constant aid and help from people.

Yeah.

Well, here's why it was embarrassing.

I tore my glute in the race.

So people were running over me in the last 50 meters.

No way.

And in track and field, you don't wear underwear.

No way.

So you could see my dick and balls pretty much.

Oh, my God.

I need to see a clip of it.

Yeah, I'm on the floor.

Like, they're lifting my leg up.

No way.

I don't even mean to laugh at at that.

That's actually, I feel bad.

It's whatever.

Like, it happened.

Damn.

Well, at least it was in high school.

Not like now.

A lot of trauma from high school, dude.

Really?

Yeah, that's real trauma.

No, I got bullied, bro.

Where did you fit in on the high school team?

I fit in on very similar to, like, I guess now, like, I know, I knew everybody.

I was, you know, very extroverted.

I partied a lot.

Yeah.

So you were playing.

I played sports.

Yeah.

I mean, I don't like to call myself a cool kid, but yeah, I knew everybody.

I had good relationships with everybody.

Okay.

Yeah.

I didn't really get bullied, and I didn't bully people either.

Like, I would never, yeah, I would never bully anyone.

I tried to keep friends with everybody, whether they were different than me or not.

Yeah.

You never know how people are going to end up, dude.

Yeah.

Now I bet all your high school bullies watch you.

Oh, no, they do.

Oh, wish I was friends with Sean.

No, you never know where people end up.

One of my classmates is an Olympic gold medalist now.

No way.

Yeah.

Crazy.

Super nuts.

Yeah, that's insane.

I know you're super tight with Bryce Hall.

How'd you meet him?

Yeah, Bryce is a really good friend.

We met gambling, actually.

We were sitting next to each other at a table.

literally just taking shots and gambling.

And Bryce ordered, Bryce is a very similar personality to me.

And he just ordered like seven shots for the table, thinking everyone would take them.

Everyone just declined.

Like at this point, we didn't know each other at all.

We were just like chopping it up, talking here and there, whatever, you know, gambling, we're winning.

So we're like, you know, exciting, dapping each other up, whatever.

And like, everyone was like, yo, I'm not taking these shots.

We had seven chilled tequila shots in front of us.

Me and Bryce just looked at him.

I was like, bro, I'll take all of them with you.

Like, let's just, let's do it every time, whether we win or lose, I just take it.

So mine and Bryce's friendship purely started from drinking and gambling, I'd say.

And we both won in the session, which I feel like helped.

Like energy was good.

Definitely helped.

You know, both drinking, you know, it was fun.

When you win with someone, it's a bond.

Like, I'll be gambling next day.

Automatic people don't know who they are, but if we win.

Yeah, if you win, it's automatic, too.

Yeah, exactly.

That's kind of what me and Bryce did.

You know, obviously, I knew who Bryce was at that point.

He didn't know me, but

it clicked pretty instantly.

We have very similar personalities, and we won the session.

We were drinking a lot.

I think the way me and Bryce formed our friendship after that day, we did the same exact thing like another eight days in a row.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Just like, let's take shots.

Yeah, let's take shots and play blackjack.

And we kept winning, which is not normal, obviously.

Nah.

You know, but that made it like easy to keep saying, yeah, for both of us.

Like, if one night I didn't want to do it and he did, like, I'd be like, nah, come on.

And then it'd be vice versa.

So we just ended up like pressuring each other to gamble and drink until we both like had enough of that.

You know, now we'll both still do it, obviously, but it's not the same versus like that first week.

We were, we were here at Ari or Red Rock every single day.

Just blackjack.

Keeler shots.

Yeah, we were doing really well.

We both just kept winning.

And it's like, how do you do that?

Martin Gale?

No, not even.

I don't believe that.

Yeah, I don't believe in that.

I feel like if you have unlimited money, maybe, right?

Like, if you have enough, but like, if you come with a budget or a bankroll and you know that, like, you don't want to go cash advance or your cash advance is already full because you already did it, um, that's like when you, I don't, I don't really believe in that.

I like to play kind of the same in blackjack.

And then I do what's called blackjack fire.

One of my friends made it up, and it's like a non-written rule in blackjack that we fully believe.

Like, I will do it every single time.

Really?

I'll play the same bet every single time.

And the second that I hit a blackjack, that next hand, we call it, we just fire.

Like, if I'm betting a thousand a hand on blackjack, that that hand after blackjack, I'm betting five or 10K.

Really?

Yeah, like I'll just fire.

You believe in like momentum then?

Kind of.

Like, if we joke about it and call it blackjack fire, everyone knows the rules.

And that's what we always say when we do it.

And it'll either completely destroy a session, or if you hit two of them in a row, you're up so much you can leave the table.

Right.

So it's like, all depends on how lucky you are.

That hand after blackjack, that decides if I win or lose.

Yeah, I feel like a good blackjack session comes down to like a couple hands.

Yeah, like a double and a split or something like that.

Or that one time you decide to get ignorant and put more money on it, and then you have to double and split.

It's always, I feel like it's university.

It it always just happens do you split often uh every time i get a chance to and then depending on the shoe too like i'll split things i'm not supposed to just kind of mess the deck up or yeah you know i'll only play double deck blackjack too i refuse to play six decks or eighth decks like if it's not double deck i will not sit down do you do you notice you win more with the double decks yeah i i don't like six deck unless there's like a match of dealer yeah which is the only way i would do it but yeah double deck strictly usually is it because you just lose track of what's coming out yeah also i don't even try like i'm relatively bad at math i think about that with everybody i'm not even gonna sit there and try to count cards like you can just tell the way I play.

I'm certainly not counting.

It seems too fast to really count, honestly.

Yeah, I feel like you need to have the brain for it.

There's definitely people that can.

Like, I know people that can count cards.

Yeah.

There was one time I got dealt, and a dealer said ace.

And when I wasn't going to hit, he said ace.

And I was like, what do you mean?

And I was like, that was weird.

And I hit and it was an ace next.

What the hell?

I was like, are you fucking counting?

It was crazy.

I think the dealer was literally counting his own deck.

They probably get taught how to count, honestly, because then they could spot it.

Because then they can spot it.

I feel like it's easy to spot, though, if you see someone like betting really low and then out of nowhere bet really big and face cards come out.

Yeah, I feel like like that's how you can get banned from a casino super easily.

Have you ever seen a counter at one of your tables?

Um, yes, I actually recently watched someone get banned for counter,

yeah, but he was being really ignorant about it, like, he was doing you know, fluctuations of numbers, and he was also like kind of talking about it.

And then, oh, that's dumb, yeah, yeah, he got exited pretty quick.

Yeah, he just drew attention to himself.

Yeah, I don't think he realized that he'd get banned, and he wasn't making that much money, he was playing kind of small, but that's super dumb, just yeah, it was a really stupid way to not be allowed to

get banned.

There's only like three casino groups, yeah, yeah, exactly.

and when you get banned if it's a place you like then it's generally and you're banned from like five other casinos yeah exactly mgm caesars and uh who owns red rock it's like uh stations stations yeah those are like the big three exactly so if you get banned from one of those you're you're wiped yeah exactly and that sucks you know if you're like going there or whatnot yeah have you seen mickey mace gamble in vegas ever so i've never personally gambled him i uh i spent the super bowl with him this year actually um really humble dude i that's one thing i could say about him just meeting him for the first time you know seeing all his clips on the internet you're not sure like who he'd be like when you meet him.

That guy is a real celebrity in a casino, and he's really cool.

He stops everywhere.

He'll take pictures of fans.

That's what Bryce does, too.

That's what I really liked about Bryce right away.

Seeing how humble he was.

You walk around a mall with Bryce and a million people are stopping him.

That's making it a casino.

So I've seen him one time.

He won one of my friends 180k in like a 40-minute session.

Damn.

But I've never gambled.

Bacharat or?

Yeah, Bacharod.

Yeah, that's the game, man.

Yeah.

And I've never gambled him personally, but just, you know, spent the Super Bowl with him watching it and then watching him win my friend 180K afterward that's nuts what did he start with to win the 180 i think he started with 50 i want to say wow yeah almost four hours it was either 50 or 100 i got there late i was like kind of i was doing other things i was on my phone working and stuff so i wasn't like fully attent to watching it but i was kind of just watching from a glance and i watched them celebrate you know screaming tapping each other up yeah it was cool to watch that's fire why do you think asians are so good at baccarat you know what's crazy i don't know i don't know but

i also know they love baccarat yeah like that's like i think that's the only asian game i could be wrong but baccarat the actual rules are in Asian oh really like yeah like if you ever get the little pamphlet that they give you baccarat like it's Asian at the top I didn't know that yeah and then um yeah I don't know why they're so good do you play baccarat no but every time I go to a casino and see the baccarat it's like 80% Asian yeah it is always 80% Asian and I what I've noticed about baccarat is like I feel like it's not that popular in the in the gambling world it's always like in the way back of a casino yeah they hide it because it's the best odds it's the best odds and you know i feel like if you have big money it's the best way to make a lot of money maybe that's why asians like it or wealthy asians because you know it's the best odds odds.

They're they're smart.

They're not playing blackjack with negative edge, and Baccarat's kind of a 50-50.

You catch four in a row at 50K a hand, you're up 200k.

Yeah, you go up quick.

They didn't have it on the cruise I was just on.

I was bummed.

No way.

Yeah, I went on a Virgin.

They probably had a lot of slots just taking fun money.

Triple zero roulette, though.

Oh my god, of course.

I'm surprised there wasn't five zeros.

They keep adding zeros.

You know what's funny?

Every casino offers cruises.

I think that's the funniest thing because they know that you'll just go and probably gamble 90% of the time you're in that.

And you'll lose it.

I'm sure they have a partnership on that.

For sure.

Yeah, literally every cruise has a partnership with a casino.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that's one thing I've always noticed is casinos every year trying to get me to go on cruises.

Oh, yeah.

They probably offer you them for free, right?

Yeah, I think I'm going to do it this year.

Have you ever done it?

Yeah, I'm going to do it.

I don't even know what they are.

I keep slacking you on actually going to get the pamphlet of all the different lists.

Usually it's Carnival, I think.

Yeah.

So I'm going to go.

I'll tell you in like 48 hours because I've been saying I'm going to go and I haven't.

Do you even play roulette?

Oh, I love roulette.

That's actually my favorite.

It's like the worst odds.

Yeah, the way I play is really, really sick, honestly.

It's a problem.

Do you have a strategy?

Yeah, I do.

It's kind of hard to explain.

I just play the second digit of whatever the numbers are and repeating.

So, like, say, five is on the board.

I'm going to play 5, 25, 15, 35.

And if there's like, obviously, you see, like, I don't know, like 20 numbers.

So, I'll just take that second digit.

So, if it's like 25 and 14, I'll play all the zeros, all the fives, and all the fours.

So, 14, 4, 24, 15, 5, 25.

And that's like how I play.

So, you've noticed those last digits repeat sometimes?

Yeah, I feel like they always do, one way or another.

Obviously, Roulette, like you said, the way I play is like only like big numbers inside.

So, i either lose aggressively really fast or i win aggressively really fast and then i've actually used siri too uh i can't take credit for it i watched one of my friends do it first yeah he was asking siri um one two three or four and that was like for the outside like even odd red or black so that was the four and whatever siri would say he would do and i always play inside so i was like hold on let's make this way more exciting yeah i was like cut 36 out because i don't i don't ever play 36.

so i'll say hey siri pick a number one through 35 and i the first time i did it i hit for like 70 What?

And then the second time I did it, I hit for like 105,000.

Dude.

And Siri's legitimately made me more money gambling than I have myself.

That's actually nuts.

You were betting like 2K?

Yeah, like 1K number.

Wow.

To hit.

So if it hits, it's 35K.

Dude, that's nuts.

And there was one time, it was actually on a streamer of vlog, too, of like me showing someone doing it.

And I picked a number with Siri, and then I had them do it, and it hit.

It was Tifu's vlog, actually.

Wow.

Yeah.

Oh, I think I saw that one.

He hit three for 35K because I was like, and I was, I was really drunk.

You hear me like mumbling to him.

I'm like, just tell Siri.

And he he does it and it hits.

And I was like, see, Siri's incredible.

Dude, I remember that video because didn't Bryce Hall get in a beef with someone?

Yeah, I think so.

I think it was that day.

It might have been a different day.

I'm not sure.

But yeah, that whole beef was like, I was sitting, I was at that table when it happened.

I was confused about that beef.

I didn't really fully understand it.

Bryce was just losing and getting tilted.

Yeah, he was tilted for sure.

But also, like, he was kind of taking jabs for no reason.

He was trolling.

And then I found out after we didn't know who he was.

Like, he loves to troll.

So I think he just trolled the wrong person at the right time.

But, I mean, I've gambled a lot with Bryce.

Like, Bryce is very humble and very chill.

So, I mean, that day, obviously, he was just, you know, more tilted and didn't like being trolled, which I can understand.

If that was me, I probably would have had a very similar reaction.

Yeah, if you're down bad and someone's making comments.

I usually don't threaten to hit people because I can't fight.

You know, I'd probably get my ass beat if I said that.

But just in general, yeah.

I feel like that's not really who Bryce is at all.

And I feel like the internet took it that way just because that's what the internet does.

Dude, they love to shit on him.

One thing about Bryce is, I don't know how he fucking deals with all that hate.

Like, it's impressive to me.

I think he's great at it.

He's

great at it.

I don't think he cares.

He doubles down into it, and he's really loved by a lot of people, too.

From what I've seen, just you know, over the last seven months, he's loved by way more people than he has hated.

At least what I think in my opinion.

I just think the internet runs with anything that gets views.

As you know, being in our world, that's how the internet works.

People do anything to get views.

Also, the haters won't come up to you in person.

No, absolutely not.

And that's the haters are usually the way I look at a hater online, it's like somebody that's already beneath you, and they have nothing else really going for them per se.

And they're usually, you know, below you in some way, shape, or form.

It's easier just to go type a hateful message.

I tell a lot of my clients that too, right?

When I do like mass media stuff or I'm making people viral in different ways through the different things I do, like they'll be like, but there's hate comments.

I'm like, that's going to happen.

What do you think celebrities deal with?

Bryce, any celebrity, they all deal with that because when you have mass internet people all looking at you at the same time, there's going to be people that

aren't comfortable with their own lives and they will just go type whatever they want.

It's honestly a good sign for me, though.

Yeah, I mean, I tell people, the more people comment, the more it's going to go viral.

So like, let them keep commenting.

I actually, right before I walked in here, just sent that to somebody.

They said, hey, do you think we could switch this post because

I don't really love the comments on it?

I said, bro, I hope there's a thousand more comments on it because it means more people are going to reach you.

And the ones that are smart enough to actually click your page and like your content, you're going to get more followers.

I'd rather that post reach 5 million people than one.

I don't care about the hateful comments.

I care about who goes to your page afterwards.

Yep.

If you see any viral video and you look at the comments, it doesn't even matter what platform it's on.

There's hate.

There has to be.

That's what makes videos go viral.

You know, it's sharing it.

It's commenting on it.

That's like how algorithms work.

They're looking for engagement.

So if you don't have engagement, obviously, you know, I'd rather have hate than, I'd rather have hate and love than no love.

You know, that's how you grow a brand.

You won't go viral.

Yeah, it's like you're going viral.

How do you build a brand without like building an actual audience?

Yeah.

Yeah.

My advice to content creators coming in is you're going to get hate.

Just learn how to cope with it.

My advice to content creators, same thing.

You're going to get hate.

Hate's good.

Learn to double down on it and definitely run with it.

You can't be mad.

You can't be someone on the internet and then care what people think, right?

That's the whole point of being on the internet.

It's like you're doing it because you don't already care.

You're doing it for whatever your vision is or your goal.

And if you can't deal with haters, then the internet's probably not for you.

Yeah.

As long as you're literally being yourself, like

what you believe in too, yeah.

Like literally, they're helping your algorithm.

Like haters literally drive an algorithm, make things go viral.

Absolutely.

So I encourage it.

Bryce is going all in on Trump too, which is dope.

Yeah, and I love it.

Obviously, you know, I'm a supporter of Trump too.

And I definitely, you know, I think it's good.

Someone like Bryce, who has an audience in 20 to 24-year-olds in that area, I'm glad he's going on.

Yeah, and I know he hates being called the TikToker, but he was like the first major TikToker.

I love joking with him, calling him a TikToker.

But yeah, obviously, I think Bryce is really good at his audience.

He's really good at the internet.

He's been doing it his whole life.

So I think it's good that he's using his platform for always things he believes in.

He always liked to fight when he was younger, too.

Now he's fighting professionally.

So I think that's cool.

Would you ever fight for money?

No.

Even a million dollars.

A million dollars.

If I thought I had a chance, if it's against like a fighter, like that Derek kid from Jake Paul's better company, Derek, I'd fight you right now.

I'd probably fight Derek for free because he's skinny.

I actually think I called Derek out on a video.

I'm friends with Derek.

I'm friends with all the better guys.

I'm close with all of them.

I like all of them.

Good dudes, good group of people.

I love what they're doing.

I think I actually on camera did say, Derek, I'd fight you for free.

So this will be the second time, Derek.

I will fight you for free.

I'm calling you out, man.

I will say he's more athletic than I thought.

Yeah, he just ran half a mile.

And he kind of like trains and shit.

I feel like he'd beat my eye.

I'd still do it.

No, he trains he ran uh half a mile in two minutes eight seconds yeah he's definitely he looks like a track star which is insane for sure he looks like a runner i wouldn't i wouldn't put that past him yeah that's a 415 mile pace so yeah the last video i saw of him fighting too he definitely he's got it you know he's definitely steiny right um i think there was like a clip i don't know if it was like an actual fight like in a ring i think they were like just like had gloves on the middle parking lot he was outdoors yeah yeah but um yeah i saw like one clip of that i think he got like one good punch on steiny i don't think i even saw the full clip of it no i don't know how it went full fight but shout out to derek man he talks his talk at least he backs it it up, though.

I love that.

Talking about like content creators and like doing whatever, not caring about hate.

I feel like Derek's like a perfect example of that.

Yeah.

And he learned it from Jake, I bet.

Yeah, I'm sure.

And I think he's smart.

You know, I feel like he gets a lot of views and people either love him or hate him.

And either way, they still follow him.

That's like the nature of being a content creator.

Whether people love you or hate you, they still follow you.

You're doing your job.

You can funnel the hate into success, too.

100%.

Jake just built a nine-figure brand in two months.

Exactly.

And he used to get the most hate of it.

You can, I feel like when you're building a brand and an audience, too, you can always pivot, right?

You can always like change what you're doing.

You can always rebrand, especially when you're young.

Like, I feel like there's there's a tons of examples of people that have done that very very well over the years like you can just rebrand you know you take your audience and go into something else that you believe in yeah so i think as long as like you said it's what you believe in and you don't care about the hate it's like you can always turn it into success absolutely and i always like to make like people that hate i try to kill them with kindness after you know you kill someone yeah exactly like they're they're doing it because they want a reaction so when your reaction's like oh it's all good man love you anyway people are like wait what why are you being nice to me i want to hate you and then you don't give them a reason to hate you and it's like it fucks with them it messes them up yeah it's fun yeah How do you spend all the money you win when you gamble?

I mean, honestly, I usually try to keep a bankroll to gamble more, depending on like what we were talking about with parlays.

Like, I'll try to keep it up and spin it up.

But one of my friends two years ago, he always said, like, why don't you buy something?

Like, you're an idiot.

I know the way you gamble.

Like, you'll just keep doubling up.

You get drunk.

Like, you'll lose all your money in a night.

So now, if I go up big in a night, I give half the money to my friends right away.

And I like to buy watches.

Like, I'll take half the profit and just I'll buy.

That's like the thing I've been doing recently.

I just buy watches.

And I really like doing that because the value is good.

Right now, the market's down.

I really like watches just as much as I do cars.

So, like, right now, I'm wearing an AP, you know, like, I like to buy like nice APs or Rolexes, any chance I get from a big win on something.

This way, it's like, even if I do lose after, it's like, I still have the AP.

You have something to show for it.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Watches are good for networking, too.

Yeah, absolutely.

It's part of the first reason I started buying watches because the only people that know watches well are usually people of success or, you know, my typical client, I would say.

So,

yeah, watches watches is like a good bonding experience, good networking, and I really like them.

I used to wear a lot of diamonds and stuff.

I don't really wear a lot of diamonds or jewelry anymore.

Yeah, so like I'll do very minimal on my wrist, like a watch, and then maybe like a bracelet or two, but that's that's really it for me in terms of jewelry now.

Absolutely, you think you're gonna stick in Vegas for a bit?

I know you move a lot.

Yeah, honestly, I think this.

I stayed in Miami for three years.

I don't know if I'll get to Vegas for three years.

I'm already like, I kind of want another spot in Miami, so I'm already looking now.

You want to go back?

I don't want to go back full-time.

I think I'll always have something to do here.

Just the nature of like, you know, networking, the area I'm in, the people I'm around, and then just the businesses I'm involved in.

Yeah, so I feel like part of me will always be here, but I don't want to like live my whole life here.

Same.

Like I'd love to have a house here and a house in Miami, eventually spend more time in Miami than Vegas.

But for now, like I could see myself at least the next full 12 months from now being in Vegas.

And I've been here for like seven months.

I'm the same, dude.

I want a spot on the East Coast, West Coast.

Yeah.

Perfect world.

I'd like Dallas, New York, LA.

Vegas, Miami.

Damn, all of that.

Yeah, like that's no, like, that's where I'd want to have like my homes across anything I do.

Like more long-term plan.

Yeah, so one center, two, yeah, just one of them, kind of my five favorite places to be in the country.

But, like, right now, Vegas, Miami, I'd say.

Like, that's where I want to be back and forth, but Vegas, more full-time than Miami.

Where's number one for you if you had to pick?

Right now, Vegas, that could change, but like, I could see, I mean, next year, I might say Miami.

Okay.

Yeah, Florida, I'd say Florida or Vegas.

Vegas is a hot take.

I don't hear many people say that's number one.

Just right now, I feel like I'm different than most people.

You know,

like for what I do with work and what I'm doing in the sports betting world world and just like marketing and gambling world.

Um, I think being here is better for networking and better for business.

I think that I can build that for a year right now.

And that's why I say right now, because I could build that for a year and then I could leave.

That's what I did in Miami kind of, you know, I met everyone I had to.

I made money with everyone I had to.

I built an incredible network and relationships with everybody.

I still do a ton with people in Miami.

I don't have to be in Miami to do that anymore.

Versus here, I feel like I'm still networking.

I'm still meeting people.

It's someone new every day or every event.

And then, you know, when that network's built and, you know, I've done a lot of business from it, that's when I'd be like, all right, well, I don't really need to be here anymore.

I already kind of solidified what I do.

Yeah.

Then I'd probably be happy going back to Florida.

Got it.

Any goals that you haven't accomplished yet?

Here?

Yes.

Just in general.

Yeah, definitely.

For sure.

Financial?

Financial.

I want to own a jet.

That's definitely a goal.

That's doable.

Yeah, for sure.

I mean, I feel like it's definitely doable.

Steeple do it just bought one.

Vegas Matt, I think, just bought one as well.

I heard that, yeah.

I didn't know.

I haven't seen her talk to Vegas Matt in a little bit.

I'll probably see him this weekend, I'm sure.

Tomorrow, yeah.

Yeah, I'll definitely see him tomorrow for sure.

But I would say that's probably the biggest financial goal.

I'd love to, whether it's equity with friends or I'd like to own a jet where I'm not spending ridiculous amounts of money on jets

or not really having to worry about flying where it's like, I know there's a jet in the hangar and wherever I'm going, the jet's going.

Like that'd be, that'd be the best financial goal for me.

Yeah.

It's hard to think of a better purchase than a jet.

Right.

And that obviously means like, you know, to buy a jet comfortably, being able to afford what it costs monthly, that's at least in my head, I guess, like $100 million.

So I guess that's a financial goal.

It depends.

$100 million.

You can split it with like four people.

You'd be surprised, actually.

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, way better that way.

And then maintenance isn't that bad either.

Maintenance, and if you're chartering it, chartering kind of pays it back, too.

Yeah, kind of offsets it.

No, when I'm ready, I'll hit you up.

We'll do it.

I'd love to, bro.

Let's make that our goal.

We'll probably need like 5-mil liquid at least.

Yeah.

Yeah, and that's doable, too.

Do you think 5-mil gets like a nice jet?

Not a nice one.

I haven't looked into them all that often right now.

That should start, though.

No, if you're talking nice, then yeah, probably tens of millions.

Yeah, yeah.

And I don't need anything crazy.

I'd say it has to have like six seats, right?

If we're going to split it, we want to take friends places at least six.

But if if it's only four it's kind of tight four is tight and then you know i feel like you can't even use it the way you want right if i want to own a jet like i said i want to be able to do whatever i want whatever i want and jet with four people wouldn't really no you can't even go coast to coast fast because it's the propellers exactly yeah you gotta stop a gas probably two or three times yeah all right bro it's been fun where can people find you uh at jerry m on instagram that's the main platform i don't really do any content anywhere else and at jerry m one story a week baby one story a week that's it

great seeing you sean peace