The Rise of European Hoops: Is Team USA in Trouble? | Nick Dais Part 2 DSH #870

Playing college kids that are going to be accountants and like photographers.

No disrespect to either professions.

But Luke is playing against professional basketball players that are 28, 30, and he's winning MVPs at 17, 18 years old.

So the game, to your point, bro, is definitely caught up in the rest of the world.

But overall, with Team USA, it's not impressive to me when they went gold.

All right, guys.

Had to get him back on the show.

We got Nick here again.

Let's go.

And he went fire all that first time.

Yeah, it was getting fried.

It was getting cooked.

So I guess what's the saying?

All publicity is good publicity.

Yeah.

Are you here to double down on that take?

Are you willing to acknowledge it might have been a stretch?

I mean, it does look pretty bad now post-Copa America.

I'm going to stay true to it, man.

I'm going to stay true to it.

I think

the manager is out.

Bro Halter's out.

Yeah.

Which, you know, it's always weird, right?

Could you imagine firing someone, then bringing them back?

Because that's exactly what happened with Team USA.

And I think now they're going to go after a big-name European guy.

I don't know if this is like racist or nationalist, but I don't want my American coaches to be American.

I want them to be European.

I think like immediately, if you're watching soccer on TV, that's just me.

And I'm a lifelong soccer fan, born and raised with the stars and stripes.

But if I hear a British accent, if I hear a French accent, Brazilian accent, I'm in.

When it's an American dude, I'm like, a little hesitant.

You know, Jürgen Klinsman during his era, he's the one that sort of started the dual citizenship guys.

You'd be like, wait, Sean Kelly's German, but his mom is American.

Let's get him.

Sean's one of the best center forwards in Germany right now.

Let's get Nick, who's Greek and American.

He has the citizenship.

Let's get him.

So he sort of started.

the springboard of dual citizenship guys, right?

And that helped a lot with the program.

But,

you know, losing in Copa America the way that they did it was supposed to be like a trial run before the World Cup since the Copa was here and the World Cup is going to be here.

They need a big name manager.

And they have pieces, man.

They have a lot of promising pieces.

And it's not just like American people saying that they're good pieces.

It's like, you know, Pulisich and A.C.

Milan had a career year.

McKinney played really well at Juventus.

Bulligan in France, like they have guys, you know?

So I'm going to stay with it, bro.

Let's go viral again.

Let's get fried fried again.

I embrace all the smoke.

All right, so you got the U.S.

team winning the World Cup.

Yes, sir.

Let's go.

Staying true.

What about the U.S.

basketball team?

Look, man, I think, you know, I get a lot of heat for this on my show.

Don't care about it.

Really?

Yeah, I think if you're an American basketball player, I don't want to hear about your gold medals.

Wow.

I think it's expected.

They're minus 900 to win the gold.

So I just almost lost to South Sudan.

I know.

It was very alarming as a 44, 43-point favorite.

Crazy.

But I also think that when the time comes, it's one of those teams that are going to be like, all right, man, it's the real shit now.

It's not a scrimmage.

It's not an exhibition.

Like, let's get shit popping.

You just look at the roster.

It's the most complete roster.

I will say if they don't win gold,

I think you might be in trouble moving forward because Canada is fantastic.

They got a lot of NBA guys.

I mean, shit, their backcourt is SGA and Murray.

Yeah.

They're starting five solid.

Very, very solid.

And these are guys that, you know, they've gone up against the dudes on America too.

They're not intimidated by them.

A lot of times, that's what happens with these other countries.

They're like, holy shit, LeBron is there.

We're like Jamal Murray.

Yeah, I've beaten him 12 out of the last 13 times we played.

So I think USA and U.S.

basketball, I always get heat for this.

I'm like, you know,

the quicker you mention a player's gold medals on his accolades, the quicker I'm going to check out of the conversation.

Like, I love Carmelo Anthony.

He's the only big name superstar to ever actually come to the Knicks.

Yeah.

Everyone loves New York, but he's the first one to actually come there.

But when I argue with my friends about Mello, they're like, Yo, he got three gold medals.

I'm like, all right, we're done with the comment.

I don't want to hear it.

Because it's like expected.

You know what I mean?

Like, you're minus 900.

You're the mecca.

You're the real standard of basketball.

The biggest league in the world is in your country.

Everyone wants to come here.

So it's not like impressive when they win the gold, at least for me.

I rather they should win by 30 each game.

I don't care care how good these other countries have gotten, but like, all right, when you play at Canada, maybe you win by 20.

That's just how I feel.

I feel uh, it does seem like other countries are catching up, though.

Oh, for sure, man.

Definitely.

And then you just look at, if you look at the all-NBA team from this past season, 2024, it's only Tatum that's American.

Wow.

You have out of all 15?

No, no, no.

On the first team.

Oh, first five.

Yeah.

And then if you look at the NBA, NBA MVP,

last couple have not been American dudes.

It's been Jokic.

it's been Giannis, it's been Embiid.

I know Embiid now plays for Team USA, but originally he didn't.

So the European game is closing in, man.

And these guys are coming in more developed.

They're coming in more successful with accolades overseas.

Like one of my best takes ever, dude, was I was all in on Luca coming into the draft because that was the year that him and Aiton were going, like, who's going to be one?

Who's going to be two?

And, you know, my dad is Greek, and we watch European basketball basketball on like a Tuesday afternoon in New York.

It'd be on.

And a lot of the Greek club teams, they're really good.

And we'd see Luca at 17 just violating dudes.

I'm like, yo, this guy's not in the NBA.

My dad knew more about him.

He was like, hey, man, he's one of the big prospects.

I was like, this kid's going to go to one because Aiton's playing college kids that are going to be accountants.

and like photographers.

No disrespect to either professions.

But Luca's playing against professional basketball players that are 28, 30, and he's winning MVPs at 17, 18 years old.

So the game, to your point, bro, is definitely caught up in the rest of the world.

But overall, with Team USA, it's not impressive to me when they win gold.

I feel that.

Yeah, you've been at this for nine years now.

Yeah, nine years.

Sports almost every single day, right?

Yeah, 2015, bro.

My whole life was that.

I was always a sports dude in my friend group.

And especially when the betting came into it.

Like, even at a young age,

when I was in high school, my teachers would be like, who do do you like in the Monday Night Football game?

Think they cover?

Like, that was always my thing.

I feel like everyone has nerd qualities about them.

You might be into comic books, might be into wrestling.

I was always into like betting and numbers.

Like, that was always, you know, statistics.

That was the only class I paid attention to.

You found your strength college.

Yeah.

Doubled down on it.

Yeah, just doubled down.

Are you up this year on betting?

Am I up?

Yeah, well, I did hit some crazy, crazy parlays.

like most recently at Copa America, I hit a Colombia 3-0 and Brazil 4-1.

Yeah, the correct scores are.

Yeah, yeah, holy crap.

So I get that reaction a lot.

And I'm not going to say it's not difficult.

And I don't want to come off as some like correct score guru.

I will say in soccer, it's a lot easier to sort of handicap, right?

Because it's harder to score.

So you saying, well, this team is so much more superior than the other.

3-0 is in play.

You look at the goal line.

It's them to win by two goals is minus 160.

So maybe I should bet 2-0, 3-0,

right?

You look at the game with Brazil and Paraguay.

Brazil was coming off a lackluster performance against Costa Rica.

They tied 0-0.

Everyone's like, holy shit, what happened to the Brazil I knew and loved?

And then they play Paraguay, Paraguay, an inferior opponent, a familiar opponent too, because they play each other in Copa America World Cup qualifying.

And

yeah, man, it's just, you know, you expect when a team is up 2-0, 3-0, the other team's going to try to press and maybe pull a goal back.

And that's what happened.

And then they leave themselves open to counterattacks.

And then that's what happened to make it 4-1.

I actually watched that game in person.

It was here in Vegas, and I was hammered, bro.

And I'm yelling.

I'm like so many Casamigos on the rocks.

That shit was packed.

Yeah.

And the Brazilian players are literally warming up where you are, like in front of me because we had Winfield Club tickets.

Shout out to the win.

And they're warming up.

And it's like the 75th minute.

They're about to make substitutions.

I'm just yelling at the top of my lungs at the players, like, yo, Rafinha, don't score.

Endrick, don't score.

They probably don't even speak English.

They don't, yeah, they don't speak English.

They speak Portuguese.

And then all the people in the section with me are like,

yo, what?

Why do you want them not to score?

And then some people are like, yo, what'd you bet?

I'm like, yo, I bet 4-1.

They're like, for real?

I'm showing them my tickets.

Like, holy shit.

Damn.

And then, bro, like the 88th minute.

Everyone's yelling, don't score.

So I had the whole crowd behind me.

That's hilarious.

To your initial point, um with the betting i've hit some monster futures uh i had the mavericks and the celtics to be in the finals at the start of the playoffs i had the uh i had england in the euro i had england winning the euro cup i had uh colombia winning the euro cup at uh the copa america so i just like whenever i make a prediction right and and some people don't understand this

so your sports betting crowd would understand this

Who I think is going to win and who I bet are completely different conversations.

Ever so often, it is the same.

So, like, who I thought was going to win was Colombia, and who I bet was Colombia.

Start to finish, I thought they were the best team in Copa America.

They lose in extra time to Argentina.

Oh, so you had that before the playoffs even started?

Yeah, I'm telling you, all these bets are before.

Wow.

So, like, Celtics and Mavericks, I made the bet before the playoffs started, but I gave out the Mavericks like around March to win the finals at 40 to 1.

So then what you could do when you make that bet is you could cash out.

You could hedge against it, right?

And that's what I did.

I had a 40 to 1 on the Mavericks.

And what I did was the Celtics were like

minus 2, 220, minus 225.

And I'm like, damn, do I run the risk of betting them after game one if the Mavericks do win?

Because then I could get maybe like one, minus 130, minus 140.

I'm like, man, Boston is so much better.

It's the same way I felt about Spain.

I'm like, I wish I was holding a Spain ticket against England.

Because just like start to finish, the Celtics were the best team.

They crushed them.

Spain was the best team.

So there's opportunities that you can make to hedge on the way up when it comes.

So to answer your initial question, I know it was long-winded.

I'm up, but I got really lucky on some like parlays.

Like the parlay was 255 to 1.

Holy crap.

So like these aren't things that you're hitting all the time.

Like the correct score alone for Colombia was 10 to 1.

Paraguay, Brazil, 4-1 was 22-1.

So those alone are basically parlays, which is also cool with like correct scores or finals matchups and futures, UFC props, round four submission.

You can see those being parlays because the payouts are so, so nice, right?

Like if you hit me up, you're like, yo, Nick, I need a parlay.

You're expecting like 20 to 1 odds, right?

You don't want me to be like, yo, here's a four-leg parlay pays minus 115.

You're like, no, bro, I want some good shit.

Well, I could be like, hey, man, why don't you bet this guy by submission round four

because his opponent is fighting a five-round fight for the first time.

This guy's a Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt.

Like, there's ways you can get edges.

So, I've hit a lot of monster bets like that.

But I'd say that this football season was probably my worst from a against a spread record.

However, what I did this year for the first time, and I think it's being accustomed to the Vegas culture and talking to pro sports betters out here, I bet more on the games I felt comfortable with.

So, like, my record was about like 51%, coming off of 60% the year before when you first had me on the show.

To now, it's like, you know, I could go one in four on the week, but if that one game, I was like, yo, this is like,

Sean, take

the subscriber money from YouTube and fucking bet this.

There's ways that you could still be up.

Okay, that makes sense.

Yeah, so it offsets the losses because you're betting more on the wins.

That makes sense.

Yeah.

Some betters make money winning 40, 45%, right?

Because they just go all in on certain games.

Nah, totally.

Yeah.

And to that point, like, you know, if

my all-star whale play or whatever it is, like my platinum play, you know, the people that sell their picks.

Yeah.

That's like my most confident in that hits.

And I'm telling you, like, yo, you should throw, you're $100 better, right?

In this hypothetical, Sean, you should put $1,000 on this, bro.

It's a lock.

Like, it's my favorite play of the month, of the year.

And, you know, every now and then, man, I think all sports betters, I think all sports fans, they get that conviction about one particular play.

And, dude, I'm probably like eight and three in those, like, man,

I just feel it, bro.

Like, Max Holloway, when he fought Justin Gaetchy, fighting up at 155.

I'm like, yo, you guys are bugging.

I was the only person I felt like in media picking Max with like confidence.

I'm like, dude, he has six months to train for this fight.

He's not taking it on short notice.

Max is

longer, rangier, could keep him at distance.

Yeah.

You know, Gage is a wild striker.

Max is just going to pick him apart.

And like three minutes into the fight, I'm like, oh my God, this is going to be an all-time tick.

Dude, I saw a lot of people make money on the Ryan Garcia one, betting on that one.

Yeah.

Did you bet on him on that?

I didn't.

No.

I

did mention on like my social media.

I'm like, you know, Ryan was like a five to one underdog.

Like, I think that's kind of crazy.

You know, Haney haney isn't exactly the the most

he's not a tank right like tank puts people away puts people to sleep um haney is more technical and you know it's it's a lot of the records too like last time you saw ryan he lost boxing has gotten to a point now and boxing isn't like my favorite i do respect the art and i i do love fighting but Boxing is, oh, you got a loss.

You suck.

You got three losses.

Oh, get this guy out.

Why is he on pay-per-view?

Where in the UFC, the biggest stars have five, six, twelve losses on their resume.

Yeah.

And

hey, man, sometimes you could leave a fight

off a loss and you're better off for it.

You know, like you got to add context to it.

Did you take this on short notice?

Are you fighting at a different weight class?

Is this your toughest opponent?

Were you a plus 400 underdog and you impress people and you look good?

You know, like,

I know it didn't age well, but Alex Volkanovsky, he was the champion at Featherweight, 145 in the UFC.

He fights Islam, and he was a big underdog the first fight, and he, people thought he won that fight, and he leaves that fight better than he came into it.

Dustin Poirier in his last fight against Islam.

It's like, yo, he looked really good.

It's a momentum builder, and it happens.

And I say the most recent one, you probably remember this, Dan Ige.

took the fight like three hours before.

Didn't know it wasn't schedule.

It's like, that's how you become a legend.

And yeah, you lost.

You look at his schedule, like his strength of schedule and his resume and his record.

Oh, he got a loss.

But it's like, yeah, bro, he took that shit on four and a half hours notice.

Yeah.

He saved the, not the event, but like he saved the fight on there.

And yeah, he lost, but he looked good in round three.

Like, what the fuck?

We thought he was going to gas out.

Absolutely.

So you could look better in losses.

For sure.

Have you been to a WNBA game yet?

I've never been to a WNBA game.

Would you ever go?

Yeah, I would go.

I'm a sports fan, so I'll go to it.

I'll be honest.

I'm not like going out my way to but but if you were but like dude i don't go out my way for a lot of things like you know there's been ufc events and i love ufc it's like hey man do you want to go i'm like i don't know it's kind of an underwhelming card i'd rather stay home uh believe it or not bro i love football hate going to football games facts i think the product on tv is so much better and then you know you have your red zones you have your youtube packages and you're like yo fuck man

imagine watching that shit here with all the screens that you got in here It's like, whoa, you should do viewing parties and whatnot.

So the product at home is so much better.

And

I try not, it needs to be an occasion, right?

Like Brazil, Paraguay, I go into that.

I went to Uruguay, Brazil when it was here in Vegas.

Had my parents come visit.

We got Winfield Club tickets.

Like it needs to be a little bougie and it needs to be a little bit of an experience.

But,

you know, the A's are coming here to Vegas.

Like

the amount of free tickets I would get when I was back home in New York, because my dad got that coffee truck on 49th and Park Ave.

And like all our customers would be like, hey, man, you want to go to the Met Game tonight?

It's like, I don't want to go, bro.

It was 150 games a year.

Yeah.

And I got to drive an hour and a half and then sit in traffic.

And it's 98 degrees of humidity.

You know, from the East Coast, how that humidity sucks.

So

with the WNBA,

I do want to see this rookie class, though, man.

Like, I think it'd be dope if you were to be like, yo, you want to go to Indiana to watch Them in the Sky play?

And like Angel Reese and Caitlin.

Like, yo, that might be dope.

But to watch, like, the Aces play

the Liberty, even though they're probably the two best teams in the league, nah, not really.

Yeah, I'm not too hyped about it.

Um, did you see the USA women's basketball team just lost?

Yeah, and and uh, they lost a lot to um

pretty much everyone that they left off the roster, yeah, crazy, right?

And yo, it happens

politics, yeah, it's it's it's politics for sure.

Like it at any, any level of

national team, there's always politics, right?

Jalen Brown.

Yeah, Jalen Brown, prime example.

That's crazy.

He won East and NBA Finals MVP and was the first $300 million man, and he's not good enough to be on this roster.

I think there is definitely politics in that.

You know, you look at in soccer, this coach favors these players because they came up with him.

Well, these players are now 36.

Why don't we play this 22-year-old?

Yeah, but this is my guy.

Sean is my guy.

I've I've been coaching Sean since he was 12, and now he's 36.

Yeah, having a women's soccer team, right?

Oh, yeah.

Dude, that was the downfall for the women's soccer team.

Like, they, uh,

um, Rodman, Dennis Rodman's daughter, yeah, she's nasty.

Uh, Sophia Smith, nasty.

They weren't getting as much playing time because they were playing the Rapinos of the world.

And it's like, dude, Rapino was my favorite player.

Like, 2011, 2015, like, she's nice.

She's nasty.

But you're just not that person anymore.

Like, age catches up to you.

Your performance is not that.

And even Alex Morgan, to an extent, it's like, yo, these young girls will make the team better.

Like, why are we still?

But to your point and how you started this, this initial question, it's, there's politics involved, man, and, and anything with sports.

And then it's sad because when you're in the middle of that, like if you're a player that, you know, you don't have an allegiance to the, the coach and the older players and you don't have allegiance to the young players, you're like, fuck, man, what about me?

Yeah.

Why do I got to suffer this?

Why can't we play Sean?

Sean is our best player.

why are we playing nick nick sucks you know so like you fall into that and it's it's terrible you're at a crossroads as a fan it's tough because you have a personal relationship you like that player right like you're a big mellow fan but a lot of people wanted him out yeah i mean shit i tell you about eli manning bro like eli manning i think is the the best example after

after 2017 he was just not that guy and It set the franchise back.

And that happens a lot too, sometimes where, you know, you have a quarterback and he's aging and he's just not as good, but he's giving you Super Bowls.

He's giving you all these great moments and memories and you want to hold on to that.

But then what happens is you're the Giants now where you've been a mess for about eight years.

I'm being polite.

I think it's longer than that.

But you were holding on to Eli Manning.

You were holding on to these pieces that just weren't what they once were.

And then you sabotage the franchise, you get the fan base angry, and then it spirals.

Crazy.

I remember asking you about Saquon on the last time we filmed.

filmed.

Yeah.

And he's gone now, right?

He's gone now.

And I've never been more confident in a player winning an award.

I've been talking about it from the day he signed with the Eagles.

Saquon Barkley is going to be the offensive player of the year in 2024.

I think he has the Christian McCaffrey year that McCaffrey had last year.

I think if you look at play style, situation, offense, offensive line,

the

fuck you attitude now, like, bet, y'all didn't want to pay me.

I'm going to go to the rival, to the one team that every fan of the Giants hates, and I'm going to go crazy.

You know, he played at Penn State, so there's like a Philly, Penn State, I guess, or Pennsylvania.

Yeah, yeah.

It's just the best situation he's been in, man.

And, and I think what Philly saw last year

was running Jalen Hurts with this tush push and the Philly shove, the brotherly shove.

It's like, this guy was getting beat up.

And then come post Thanksgiving, December into the playoffs, like, dude was hurt.

He wasn't playing as well.

So I think you have this 27-year-old running back with a fuck you attitude.

You only paid him a two-year deal, really.

There's a player option and team option mutual agreement for year three.

Yo, you're going to run him into the ground.

That's what I think they do.

Absolutely.

Giants record predictions for 2025.

I mean, bro, like

so underwhelming, man.

Do they still have Daniel Jones?

Yeah, Daniel Jones is coming back.

He's in a approved deal once again.

I like the direction they're going in, but it's still,

you know, they cleared out a lot of the older players, guys that

justified the money.

But like, am I going to pay a safety $15 million when my team has all these other holes?

McKinney, that is, who ended up going to Green Bay.

I don't know, 5-12, 6-11.

So you're realistic.

Yeah,

I pride myself on being pretty subjective with my teams.

I don't go into into every year being like, we're winning the Super Bowl.

We're winning the finals.

Yeah,

I think

all things go well.

Maybe they go into week 18 with a chance at a wild card.

But it'll be one of those situations where you see the graphic and it's like, Giants to make the playoffs.

This team needs to tie.

This team needs to lose.

This team needs to win by three touchdowns, like all that crazy shit.

But I just don't think the team is really good.

I think the offensive line is still an issue.

Has it been an issue for a decade?

I find that really really hard to believe.

But

yeah,

I'm not that excited about this year, though.

I am excited about that moving forward.

What about the Knicks?

Because there's a lot of talk about Brunson taking that pay cut.

I mean, dude, as a Knicks fan, like, build that dude a statue.

Retire the jersey right now.

$113 million pay cut.

Yeah.

As a

non-Knicks fan and as like someone that now

understands money at 33 years old and understands just how much money that is, you're a fucking idiot.

That's a lot of money to leave, right?

But hey, man, look, I think I'm a firm believer.

And it was something I wanted to ask you.

And I kind of wanted to surprise you with this.

You have a lot of people that come on your show that make me laugh, bro.

Like, you have people that come on here, and I'm not going to name any names, but like, they'll be like, oh, dude, having $100 million isn't a lot.

And I'm just like,

the delusion, bro.

Like, sometimes, like, you know, I don't don't like counting people's pockets or anything but i can tell you one thing bro and this is the god's honest truth um

the moment i started making money was the happiest i ever was

like i'm a believer of money buys you happiness really what you do with it is going to depend on it right like if you're an asshole you're just an asshole with money if

if you get a phone call from

a family member or your lady or one of your best friends and like, yo, I'm in a spot.

My car broke down.

Fuck, I got to do this.

We got a baby on the way, whatever it might be.

Be like, yo, how much would you need?

I need $4,000 to, you know, all right, here.

Really?

Yeah, here.

Like, you know, I did that for my parents, man.

Back around the holidays.

My mom called me.

My mom called me and she was just like, you know, we got, sorry, mom, but.

You know, we got some bills coming up.

Like, you know, I want to, now that I moved here from New York, right?

we've made fourth of July and Christmas like the annual trip my parents come to visit my dad is self-employed so he can't like take time off my mom's a teacher yeah so

it was like around Thanksgiving and I was back home and my mom is like you know we got a little caught up with some bills and you know life just happens man things break down whatever it might be I was like yo how much you need And she told me the amount.

I was like, all right, give me till Friday.

She's like, really?

I was like, yeah, Friday came, bam, sent it to her.

I was like, yo, you know what?

I don't even want it back.

And she started crying.

And like, to me, that's happiness, bro.

That is.

Like, that, that, you can't like that three, four, ten, twenty thousand dollars you give to someone that you really care about and you know, like, really cares about you, like, it's mom, right?

It's mom, it's dad.

It's like they got your back, right?

And to me, like, that, that is something where, man, even on like a smaller scale, bro, like, I went back home and I just paid an $800 dinner with all my buddies that like I don't see.

And

I just went and I did that slick shit where I went to use the bathroom.

I just paid it.

And then the guys were like, yo, where's the bullet?

I was like, oh, I took care of it.

They're like, bro, we had three bottles of wine.

And we had

all this fucking sushi coming out.

I was like, yeah, bro.

Like, y'all my guys, man.

You guys are my childhood friends.

And you guys hold me down.

You hold me accountable.

That's happiness to me, bro.

Like, having the freedom to be able to help the people that you can, like,

there's certain things that you just can't put money on.

And, you know, to circle back to this like that's a lot of money that he gave up But to defend him a little like maybe he wants to win in New York, bro like you become a legend dude right like oh if they win now oh my god That's gonna be the greatest move of all time probably for real and you know, maybe some people like they're not about money and maybe he was a guy and I don't know.

I don't know Jalen Brunson, but maybe he was the guy that was like, look, man, I'm kind of undersized.

Maybe if I could get a second contract, that'd be dope.

Like, I don't really have crazy spending habits.

Like, you see how he dresses?

He kind of dresses like bummy.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm sure it's probably high-end bummy stuff, but like, he shows up in sweatpants and hoodies and like, you know, ball caps and whatnot.

Maybe he wants to just play with his boys that he went to college with and he won with.

And they're like, yo, bro, wouldn't it be fire if we won in New York of all places?

The 94 team gets celebrated.

They came in second.

Yeah.

Like, imagine if they won.

Like, Lynn Sanity was running wild for three weeks and they wanted to retire the number seven or 17.

Yeah.

Like, it's, it's for some people, man, money isn't the, the, the root of happiness.

And for others, it is.

And I, me personally, I'm like, yo, once I started making money, I've never been happier.

Cause it's like little shit, bro.

Like, you take your friend out to lunch, you just pay for the lunch.

And I know I'm talking about like $25, $30, $100 lunch, but like, just little gestures like that, like to them, it's like, damn, yo, that $100,

now I can put it towards something else.

Yeah.

You know, so like to me and with Brunson, maybe for him, it's bigger than money.

And he's cashed in.

Like I was talking about on my show.

Now he's north of 200 million that he's made in his career.

Wow.

It's a lot of money, bro.

I know a lot of people that come on your show are like, oh, yeah, if you have $100 million, like you're a piece of shit.

And I'm just like, Sean, what are we doing?

Yeah.

It's interesting to see people's perspectives, man.

Yeah.

And that's what I think everything is, man.

We were talking before we started recording how like.

You don't like to generalize anything.

Yeah.

That's kind of how I live my life too.

And I also think perspective, you know, like maybe you grew up and your, your family was the jobs family.

And like all you knew was money.

Like literally a platinum spoon in your mouth you were born into.

So to you, you might be like, yeah, I grew up with this shit.

Like it's

whatever.

Like I don't know any different.

But if you're someone like me that, dude, I used to make $450 a week working with my dad at the coffee truck, waking up at 2.30 in the morning.

flipping eggs, doing all that shit, and then creating my content also on the side.

And now, like,

I make that in an edit.

You know what I mean?

Like, that's that's my one day.

So, for me, it's perspective.

And, like, whenever I get opportunities to do more and more, I'm just like, yeah, Sean, you need an editor for something?

A one-off?

Or, like, yeah, man, I'm down.

Oh, you got too much on your plate.

Don't worry about it.

My plate is not full yet.

I'll be able to handle it.

Trust me.

Do you know what I had to do to make $400

fucking three years ago?

So I just think perspective and not generalizing anything.

I think that's the best way to look at it.

I agree.

Yeah.

Cause I get heat for having OF girls on sometimes, and dude, some of them are really intelligent.

Yeah.

Like, I'm not even going to lie.

I believe it.

But they get a ton of hate on social media.

Of course.

It's the stigma, right?

It's the

immediately, oh, I do OnlyFans.

Oh, you're a piece of shit.

I have a lot of friends that do it.

And like.

Even when I go out on dates and the girl will be like, oh, yo, I do OnlyFans.

I'll just be like, yo, size 10.

And they're like, what?

I was like, I wear size 10 sneakers.

I was like, you could take care of me then.

You know, like fucking around or whatnot.

I'll be like, yo, dope, dinner's on you.

Like trolling.

Obviously, I pay for everything, but you know, it's just like, I don't know, man.

I know, I know girls that have OnlyFans and they're in great relationships.

They're married with kids.

But hey, man, if you can make $20,000 a month, 30, like some of the numbers that you hear, why not?

I'd show a little nipple if I can make 20K a month.

I feel that, bro.

How's dating out here?

I heard it's rough.

Dating is very interesting.

I would say dating here in Vegas is

because you're from New York.

I love my East Coast girls personally.

Yeah, I kind of like Spanish chicks more than anything, really, yeah, from a young age.

Like, I grew up in Queens, so like you like those Latinas, oh, yeah, 100%.

Um, but look, yo, dating out here, it's it's cool, man.

Again, it's like generalizing.

Like, I've went on dates with girls that work in the nightlife and bottle industry, and they've been hell.

And I've dated other girls that are in that, and they've been awesome.

Like, I've been the reason it didn't work out.

You up in?

Yeah, just like, yo, I'm, I'm just, I'm just busy.

And I need you to do something.

Like, I'm, I'm very busy.

I'm going to cancel on you.

Not because I'm being a dick and to make you like me more.

It's like, yo, I get, I'm a Swiss Army knife at the studio.

You see me there.

Like, you're there till midnight some nights.

I, I do a lot of shit there.

And to what I was just saying before, like, I'm a hustler, bro.

Like, I want, yeah.

You need someone to cover a three to six?

I'm in.

Maybe I made plans with fucking Katie to go get lunch at four o'clock like yo work came up my bad i'm yeah work comes first for you yeah work comes first the show comes first um cam and mace they come first like there are certain things that are priorities in my life that when i get a phone call about it it's like yo everything kind of stops man like

i'm making good money now i'm in a very very good place i'm happy

Like, yeah, I don't want to fuck those things up that make me feel that way.

Yeah.

So dating in vegas is is fine man like there's a lot of beautiful women out here for sure um but also like

my experience i've noticed that they treat guys the way guys the stigma is treat girls they kind of like

maybe one-night standish or maybe like they just want to get their thing in and then that's it that's not my vibe at all yeah not mine either yeah I need to date that girl.

Like, I'm not going to do a one-night stand personally.

Well, I also think, like, yo, I've gotten older, right?

Like, I was in my fuckboy era.

we all went through it in college and i i feel like i i told a lot of my friends like i feel like every guy and i think guys could attest to this like you kind of got to get your hoe out your system until the right person comes along and you never know when it's gonna be hopefully it's not when you're 48.

yeah that's that's weird like i'm 33 now i don't want to be 42 single having never been in a relationship

it's like yeah it's gonna be hard to go to you know if you have a family you're like hey man you want to come to the barbecue and you have two kids and i'm just over there, like,

hey, how's your cousin?

Is she single?

It'd be weird, bro.

Like, I don't want to be that guy.

Like, that shit is weird.

I see some dudes.

I see some dudes in like their 50s dating like 21 and 22 year olds.

I was like, that shit is nasty, bro.

Like, I'm 33.

If I, if I meet a girl and she's like 21, that's even weird to me.

It's tough to converse.

It's weird, bro.

Like, even though it's allowed and it's fine.

And, like, yeah, she's hot.

It's like, well, yeah, what can I talk about?

Right.

Yeah, you've just been through some shit.

You need to be able to relate.

It got to be be something you gotta you gotta have something i i look for a girl to have an ambition it's a big turn on for me when they cancel really because like they're busy i'm not saying cancel because like

oh i regret like making plans for them but i mean like hey i got i got called into work

um

something came up and like i know it's a legit right like i'm not saying hey i can't make dinner i got called into work and then you're at haka san yeah but that's different but i'm saying like to me like it just shows me that you're doing some shit Cause I'm busy.

I'm wildly ambitious.

I'm, I got this thing in my mind where, like, yeah, when I'm 40 years old on my birthday, I want to be able to call my accountant and be like, yo, can I retire right now if I wanted to?

And I just want him to say yes.

Like, all your funding, your, your lifestyle, the things you like to do, I just want him to be like, yeah, you could if you wanted to for the rest of your life.

And that's what, like, I strive for.

Absolutely.

You'll find her, man.

We'll see.

We'll see.

Uh, major moves happening in the sports media space, dude.

I want to talk about this stuff.

So with Skip Bayless, Bayless, they're saying, I don't know if he got fired or he's leaving, but this is his last year, right?

And meanwhile, his ex-partner Shannon's got the number one podcast in the sports media space.

What's your take on that situation?

I just think that it's very difficult when you break up an initial thing like a Stephen A and Skip

to replace it.

And then when you do replace it, ego gets into it.

I think that's what it all is.

It's ego.

You know, you and I do a show together.

I leave the show.

You hire Bob.

Bob is now your co-host.

Bob don't work out.

You hire Mike.

Now Mike and you do better than what you did with me initially.

You know who's going to get a big ego?

Mike.

Right.

I want more.

Why is Sean making?

Wait, Nick was making how much is Sean and I'm making this?

So I think money comes into it.

I also think that

there are a couple of things in content right now that I think have plateaued.

It's red pill stuff.

It's the OnlyFans girl being a piece of shit stuff.

It's hot take sports takes.

I think those have like plateaued.

Like Skibalis is the hot take king.

He created the LeBron James is not a top 50 player of all time.

What the fuck?

What is going on?

What is he talking about?

And then that's the conversation for three days.

Other shows on the network are now covering Skibalis' take, right?

Like that's influence, that's power.

And I think his thing has just kind of plateaued, man.

Like that kind of content, I think, has plateaued.

Like people don't want, people want debate.

I think debate is still in,

but they don't want the hot take.

They want you to really believe in what you're saying.

Don't say things because it's going to go viral or it's going to be clip worthy.

or it's going to spike up the algorithm, whatever it might be.

I know I kind of tied all those things into the same thing, but that's what I think is happening with Skip.

And I I think that now the sports media landscape has changed.

And a lot of that has to do with what we're doing.

That it is what it is, too.

Like Cameron and Mace, man, like those guys, they've changed it.

Like

they've shown people a blueprint that, yo, you don't need an ESPN Fox CBS to make millions of dollars.

And you go up there and, you know, they show up in suits.

They talk wild.

They talk reckless.

They call out athletes.

They kind of say it how it is.

It is what it is.

Yeah.

And they express that.

They have an amazing partnership with each other.

They have an amazing partnership with their sponsor.

And they allow them.

They're on YouTube.

Like,

you know, they talk the way people in barbershops talk, the way you and I would talk about sports.

Like, man, this guy ain't shit, bro.

How you get a hundred million?

But when you say that, you're saying that in the context to other professional athletes.

Right.

So I think just things have changed, and maybe that kind of content has gotten stale.

That's interesting.

And I know last time we talked, you said you want to sign to ESPN one day.

So, has your opinion changed after seeing it is what it is?

Well, I linked up with them now.

So, it's been good.

You know, I got to host their show also, which was really dope.

And I do a lot of the behind the scenes, and I make my cameos

on the show also.

Yeah, I think still, like, if I got a chance to work with ESPN, I would love to.

I want to say no.

Um, but I think now I'm in a position where I feel like my show has hit a next level and my show is doing really well.

And I would rather take less and do what I'm doing now than take more and then being like, oh, you have 90 seconds to get your take in.

Cause there's a lot of that too.

I think another reason with the sports media landscape is you have a 10-minute window between commercials.

You have a six-person panel.

Yeah, he had so many on his show.

How are you going to get all your shit in, bro?

Oh, I think Jalen Brown should have been on Team USA.

He won NBA Finals MVP.

All right, Sean's turn.

It's like, well, I can't elaborate.

Maybe Sean says something and I want to comment on it.

Maybe Sean says that Tatum isn't better than Derrick White.

I'm just saying this hypothetical.

And I'll be like, yo, Sean, you're crazy.

Like, why do you believe that?

Don't you think X, Y, Z?

It's like, no, you can't because we have three and a half minutes until we go to commercial and we still need Susie and Mike to comment.

on the Jalen Brown thing.

So I just think that the media landscape has changed and there's a lot of ways for you to make money now.

Podcast game's blowing up.

We got Shaq starting a show now.

Shannon Sharp's killing it.

Stephen A.

Smith has a show now who you interviewed.

Yeah.

So I think it's shifting towards podcasts.

Oh, yeah, for sure.

Because you get a freedom.

You get a freedom on there.

You're not back behind a network.

You know, a lot of people don't know that.

Like, Stephen A's podcast has nothing to do with ESPN.

It's all like independently.

It's his.

Wow.

He has separate sponsors.

Yeah.

Like if you watch the show, it's like pretty sure he has like a fan dual sponsor.

That's cool.

Everything on ESPN is ESPN bet.

So like there's different things man there's the coolest thing about creating content is that you're not married to one thing one company now you should have your priorities in order where like you know if if i'm hosting veterans minimum and i have a co-host on there and they're my co-host and they get paid handsomely and they're doing well

They're allowed to go get other opportunities, but like don't forget where your bread is buttered.

Don't forget that this is the springboard, right?

So like you're able to do different things.

And like, you know, we're recording this in the middle of July

to add context to what I'm going to say now.

I might be on like four different shows come September working with different people.

And

with each show, I'm talking about different things because I wouldn't want to start a sports betting show with you

because I have my own.

I'd rather you come and listen to my show.

I don't know shit about it.

Right, but I'm just saying in this example, just in general, like I've been offered many times to like, oh, come host a sports buddy show.

Why?

I have Veterans Middle, the number one sports bunning vibe on the internet.

That's how, like, I paint the picture.

So, I'd rather you come and listen to me there than start a sports bunning show with someone else.

Yeah.

So, that's how I think the

sports media landscape is.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

And that show on TNT is ending, right, with Charles Barkley and Shaq.

That's going to be a big change.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They're going to, they'll get picked up, though.

You think so?

Yeah.

I'm surprised TNT ended that.

A lot of money, man.

I think TNT just couldn't outbid the new people coming in.

You're talking about, like, I think I saw 75 billion.

Holy.

So, NBA is not going to be on TNT anymore.

It's going to be on.

Nah, it'll be on

a lot of, like, Amazon is going to have some games.

ESPN, like, the media deal is, is bonkers.

Wow.

It's like $75 billion.

So, yeah, maybe TNT is like, oh, we can't hold that.

Dude, I can't wait till Vegas gets a team.

Oh, yeah.

That's going to be psyched.

That's going to be sick.

Yeah.

It's been like the

unofficial word.

I'm hearing rumors LeBron's gonna be a part owner.

I mean who knows?

But we'll see.

Nah, LeBron, I mean, his dream was to bring a team.

I don't know about bringing the team to Vegas, but it's been known that he wants to be a team owner.

I'm like, shit, man, who wouldn't want to live here, bro?

Isn't this the best city?

Dude, I love it.

Other than the heat, that's the only downside I could think of.

Yeah, but still, whatever.

You stay indoors, bro.

Yeah.

But other than that, I mean, the food's great.

Networking's solid.

Networking is the best.

No one comes to Vegas and is in a shitty mood.

Yeah.

Facts.

I've never hyped.

Ever.

Everyone comes to Vegas.

They're hyped.

It's also cool because, like, you know, I have a running joke on my show where it's like, we don't live in Idaho, bro.

Like, people come and visit here.

Like, this is a dope spot.

Again, no offense to Idaho.

I've never been, but like, this is, this is like a Miami.

This is like a New York.

It's an LA.

You know, you have people come to visit here frequently.

Dude, I've filmed 15 times a week, as you know, and I've done that for a year and a half with no issues in Vegas.

Yeah, because people are always in and out.

People are always here, bro.

They're always here.

And when they pull up, they're in an amazing mood.

Now, at the end of the trip, maybe the tables got them.

Maybe those champagne rooms and the strip clubs got them.

It's a different conversation.

But initially, everybody I meet in Vegas, they're through the moon.

Facts.

You mentioned Braun earlier.

Where do you stand on all this Brawny drama?

Because there's a lot of hot takes on that one.

Shit, man.

I feel there's a lot of pressure on the kid.

Obviously, his dad helped.

Let's not be idiots.

His dad helped.

But, like, fuck it, bro.

I would probably do the same for my kid.

If I can get him into the league and

pull the strings on organizations and finesse my way into having my kid in there, like, fuck it.

No, I don't think anyone's ever going to do that.

Yeah, from a parental point of view, I would do the same shit.

Yeah, I think anybody would.

And, like, all right, bro, like, it's not his fault his dad was LeBron James and your dad worked UPS or whatever he's doing.

Like, no, if I said that, like, my dad flipped eggs his whole life, still does.

All right.

If my dad was LeBron James, I'm sure he would probably get me into the league.

Like, how many people in other industries,

they hand over their hedge fund or their law firm gets passed on

the Kelly group all the time, right?

All the time.

So, it just happened on a prime scale in a space where, bro, the bus family that run the Lakers, that's how they got their power.

It's heritage.

It gets passed down.

So, whatever, they just did it in sports.

And it was the first of its kind.

That's why it was frowned upon because the only other time off the top of my head that i can remember

a parent and a kid playing together was griffey but like griffey was nasty the griffy son was better than the father right so it wasn't like oh man he finessed his way to get drafted and to play with his kid like nah nah ken griffey jr was that dude he was that guy yeah right where like bronnie he had the the heart issue right he had the health issue at usc so he didn't get to play as much so maybe if he did play and he was healthy maybe he performs better maybe he plays better.

But yeah, I mean, nepotism, right?

Like, he got his, his son into the league.

Part of life.

Yeah.

I got no issues with it.

I got no issues.

Giannis did it too with his brothers.

Yeah, and they're trash.

Yeah, there's two of them on the team, right?

Three?

Yeah, two, two, two.

Yeah.

There's four of them all together.

Apparently, the youngest one is really good.

He's like better than all of them, except for Giannis, obviously.

But yeah, man, like that shit happens in every line of work, bro.

Every line of work.

Like, you know, an internship, a kid gets it because his father runs it or the uncle runs it.

Like it happens all the time.

So, why is this any different?

100%.

J.J.

Redeck, you think that was a good hire for the Lakers?

I think the Lakers, and I feel this way about LA teams in general, it always needs to be a splash.

It always needs to be a big hire.

It always needs to be something that's going to make headlines.

It's a superstar-driven city.

If you look over the last couple of years, every move that they've ever made has been a big name.

Matthew Stafford, LeBron James, Anthony Davis, Otani, right?

Like it's always Mookie Betts.

It's always a superstar.

LA and New York, they ain't got time to develop an 18, 19 year old two guard.

They don't got time to develop a quarterback.

Like we want that shit right now.

Let's get an established piece.

Let's get shit popping.

Facts.

I'm not trying to wait for Brandon Ingram and Lonzo Ball.

And D'Angelo Russell.

Like, no, no, no.

We could trade them to get AD.

Bet, let's do that because we know what AD is.

He's a top 10 guy in the league when he's healthy.

We could sign LeBron James.

Let's do that.

And look at the history of their league, bro.

Outside of like Magic Johnson, they brought in Kareem.

They brought in Kobe.

Remember, Kobe didn't get drafted by the Lakers.

No, he didn't?

No, he got drafted.

I believe it was Charlotte, but he never played for Charlotte.

Like, he got drafted by another team, but then the Lakers made a trade for him.

Shaq.

Played with the Magic, gets signed to the Lakers.

So like, they're just a city that always goes for the

splash plays.

Like, go back to the 90s, they signed Wayne Gretzky, and it, like, changed hockey in LA forever.

Right.

And it was like Gretzky was still good, still amazing, but he wasn't the Gretzky.

He was on Edmonton winning all those Stanley Cups.

And it's like, that's just what that city is like.

Yeah.

Facts.

If you got the money, big market.

You got it, man.

You got it.

What did you think of Clay leaving?

I think it was time.

You didn't want him to retire there?

Nah, man.

I'm in a.

So, like, I know before we were talking about Jalen Brunson earlier on the show, and I'm pro player getting your money you gotta

I know it's astronomical amounts of money that we're talking about but their lifestyle is way different right so 200 million to an NBA player and 200 million to me is like vastly different because the way they live and the way I live now obviously my life would change if I made 200 million dollars clay

It's been written for a while, right?

I think the one thing that I had an issue with Clay is, hey, man,

you made over $100 million

in the two years you didn't play.

And last season, where you had a career worst, like you were getting paid for that.

So to turn and to slander the organization and say, oh, man, they did me wrong.

Did they, bro?

You didn't play for two years.

You got, they paid you.

That's where I'm like, don't, what we were talking about before.

Don't forget where your bread is buttered.

Yeah.

Like these people hooked you up when they didn't have to.

But

now you're saying that you felt slighted or whatnot.

It's like, did we forget about that?

Because it happened three years ago, we forgot about it.

I know we're a society that, like, if it happened two weeks ago, we forgot what it is.

But I just think Clay going to Dallas is a dope move, man.

I think it's a good move.

I think they need another shooter.

I think he could be rejuvenated.

Maybe he has that FU season.

Like, y'all must have forgot.

Now you're expecting him not to be a Splash Brother.

He's probably the fourth option if they bring back PJ Washington.

And it's like, now you're in a better role.

At this point in your career, you're in a better role.

That's interesting because the NFL has injury clauses.

So the NBA, I'm not sure if they do that then.

Well, the NBA is fully guaranteed.

If you get hurt while playing the sport,

it's still guaranteed.

But, you know, it was the famous

Jay Williams when he got into the motorcycle accident.

It was like in his contract because they knew that he had like in your contracts.

It happened with Pat Mahomes.

Like, if you, if you go watch

Patrick Mahomes before he signed the big deal,

he was playing pickup basketball at the YMCAs.

He was going like snowboarding and shit.

Once they gave him half a billion, like, hey, man, you ain't doing that extra shit.

You're not playing pickup basketball at the YMCA on a Wednesday.

You're not, no, you're, if you get hurt, you could play.

You get hurt.

That's avoided.

Now, if you blow out a knee week three of the season on the field, it's fine.

gonna get your money, you're gonna get paid because it happened on the field.

But yeah, there's injury clause in every contract, especially when they know that you have a lot of like extracurricular activities you're into, you're into skydiving or some shit.

They're gonna account for that, yeah.

They're protecting their money, man.

Yeah, Nick, it's been cool.

Anything you want to close off with?

I know you're taking a break from podcasting, right?

Yeah, I've just been for the rest of the summer.

Um,

just gonna pack it in, come back fully, fully strong for football season.

Um,

yeah, man, just been going at it for like nine years, and I feel like now people are starting to see it.

And uh, you know, I was I got the host It Is What It Is with Cameron and Mace.

That's awesome.

And uh, there was a comment that one of my really good friends, Mustafa, left, and he was like, Man, this 90-second clip has thousands of hours behind it.

And I was like, I think that's a perfect explanation.

I was like, I called him, and I was like, Bro, this is one of my favorite comments of all time because it's true, man.

Like, people see what they see now, but it's like, bro, we had to go through and still do through a lot to get to where I'm at now.

And did I ever tell you the story about how I met Camon Race?

No.

Oh, man, this will be a cool story to end on.

And it's the epitome of right place, right time.

Are you a believer in that?

I do.

I think you meet everyone for a reason.

Yeah, yeah, totally, man.

And, you know,

as you know, I'm at the studio all the time.

And it was on a day that I went food shopping.

I just didn't want to cook.

I was like, man, I've been running all these errands for like two, three hours.

I'm not in the mood to cook now.

I got to be at the studio at six anyway.

Let me just go now.

I can eat at the wind.

Right.

It's like 1.30 in the afternoon.

I show up to the studio.

I see

there's a dude in the actual studio space.

He has his back to the window.

You've been to the wind, so you know

the fishbowl effect.

He has his back to it.

I go in.

I leave my backpack in there.

Brian is in the control room.

He's like, what the fuck are you doing here?

You're so early.

And I told him what I just told you.

In there is his dude Larry.

Now, Larry is like Cam's right-hand man, but at the time, I didn't know.

He's like, hey, man, Larry, nice to meet you.

As I go to shake his hand, the dude in the studio turns around.

It's Cameron.

Wow.

And I'm just like, yo, is that fucking Cameron?

And Larry is like, yo, you know, Killa, you know, Killa Cam.

I was like, bro, I'm from New York.

I just moved out here.

Help with the studio.

He's like, bro, you got to meet Cam.

We got to meet Cam.

I meet Cam.

We exchange numbers.

We exchange Instagrams.

He's asking about the studio, wants to rent it.

They come back a couple weeks later.

Cam is, they do two shows with Paul Pierce.

It was really good.

They get great feedback from their team and their entourage.

And their fans are like, yo, where the fuck are you guys recording?

Like, this shit is fire.

Yada, yada.

They go on and sign their underdog deal.

I shoot them a text, like, yo, bro, this is so dope, so inspiring.

Like,

good luck.

If you're ever in Vegas, like, I'm going to let you buy me a beer or some shit.

I said something silly like that.

Like, you paying for dinner, right?

Because I knew they signed their underdog deal.

And a couple of weeks weeks later i get a call from cam and he's like yeah i'm thinking of moving everything to vegas i'm like oh he's like yeah i got a lot of good feedback i was like bet bro let me know how i could help you know set you up at the studio whatever it might be he's like all right cool calls me two weeks later he's like yo you edit i'm like yeah he's like what do you do i was like oh i do this this and that he's like all right calls me about 10 days later he's like yo you're my editor i'm moving out there wow we're starting sunday and this was like maybe the monday before He's like, yo, you could do it?

I was like, sure.

How quick of a turnaround?

He's like, yeah, I need it for the next, the next day.

I was like, all right.

He's like, are you comfortable with this number?

I was like, yeah, I'm cool.

He's like, all right, bet.

Hell yeah.

No pen, no paper.

No, nothing.

Handshake deal.

Not even handshake on the phone.

Kind of just like that.

And that's how it's been so dope, bro.

Like, one of the coolest fucking people I ever met.

Dude, their clips are hilarious.

So you edit those?

I didn't even know that.

Yeah, I do.

I do pretty much everything.

Dude, I saw one about him talking about he can't watch a basketball movie unless the guy can play basketball.

It's one of my biggest pet peeves.

It's hilarious.

It's one of my biggest pet peeves, bro.

When I watch movies or shows and they're doing an athletic thing and they're not athletes, like you could just tell when someone like shoots a basketball, you're like, Oh, you've played before.

I think of uh high school musical, Savage Lefran.

I think of, yeah, that's a good one.

But I think of uh, if you ever watch the Netflix show Stranger Things, yeah, I've seen that.

Um, there's a black kid, right?

Yeah, they play basketball, and they're like, Yo, bro, what this just looks awful, or when they're throwing the football and it looks like they're throwing it left-handed and they're not lefties, but yeah, like, I do, uh, I do a lot, I do a lot of shit for them, man, and it's been great.

Like it's elevated my brand.

It's elevated my platform.

And it's it's just been dope.

And just like the free game that you get being associated with them.

And

like hearing about like these dudes have been celebrities for 30 years.

They've been in the spotlight almost as long as I've been alive.

So like their experiences and when they tell you certain things, you're like, damn, you come from a place of knowledge.

And like the last thing, I know you want to wrap up soon, but like, you know, one thing man that I always pride myself on and I feel like I do a really good job on is

I always listen to older folks

like

when I was 28 my friend Ty was 35 at the time or 33 he was like yo bro when you get to my age if you stop podcasting you're gonna regret it

he's like because I did because I was working on something and then I stopped and now I regret it so I always do a good job when like I meet someone that's 42 they're like yo bro bro, you know what I wish I could have done at your age?

Maybe save half my money or maybe invest half my money.

Now I'm like, okay, I respect him.

I know he's looking out for me.

I just feel like I've always done a good job of like people that are older than me.

I listen.

I know it sounds so simple, but it's like, I learned that.

I thought you did that, though.

Yeah, I actually listen.

Like, yo, you have a different perspective in your life.

that I haven't reached yet because I'm not your age.

So when there's a 40-year-old friend that I have and he's like, yo, bro, I wish I would have invested in fucking Google or some shit.

You should invest maybe in this or you should maybe do that.

It's like, yo, they're coming from a place of, it's kind of like a time machine.

I look at it, bro.

Like they're already ahead and they're giving me free knowledge and free game.

And I've always prided myself on like,

all right, man, I'm going to listen.

Like, you have an experience that I have an experience.

Oh, I love that, dude.

Great advice.

I just think that, yeah, yeah.

Well, we could, we could rap on that.

I just think that like, yo, yo, be open to that, man, because they got game, they got years.

Like, if you think of how, how long a year is,

they have 10, 20, 30 years of experience in that field.

And it's just, it's, it's been a great.

Dude, that's fire advice.

I was looking at my friend group the other day.

I'm, I'm the youngest one, but by far, like, my friends are 10 years above my age on average.

Yeah.

That's helped me a lot in business and life, personally, and professionally.

Yeah, dude.

Like, you know, maybe you come across, and I hope you do one day, you come across six, seven, eight-figure deal.

And you have a friend that went through it.

And they're like, yo, bro, I remember this in the contract.

This fucked me over.

Cause like, you know, once your contract ends, they still own your IP.

Right.

Like, be careful with that.

They fucked me up.

You know, like, it's, it's free game.

And I know you have lawyers and attorneys, but it's also.

when it comes from that perspective too, it's the best, man.

And like, you know, the people you keep around and the people you interact with, it doesn't always need to be about money and success.

Like, maybe you just need people to be like, yo, you're being a piece of shit there.

That's how i view my friends yeah like all the people i keep in my circle is like yo bro do me a favor never wear that again on a show you look like a clown yeah that's honesty and loyalty yeah yeah bro like you know i don't know if it's a new york thing or east coast thing but like bro when when uh growing up like my friends and to this day we say the wildest to each other like My hair, when I had Stephen A on the show, my hair was like all fucked up.

It looked like I had a two-pay on, right?

Yeah.

So my friends were like, damn, bro, biggest interview of your career.

It looks like you got a two-pay on.

I I love that.

I was like, damn, yo, you're right.

They're like, come on, bro.

Like, you killed that interview, but like, you gotta look sharp.

Don't do that again, right?

And that's that's the people I keep in my life.

Yeah, you need that.

You need that.

Nick, it's been cool.

We'll link yourself below, man.

Thanks for coming on again.

Always a pleasure, bro.

Thanks for watching, guys.

As always, check them out below.

Peace.