Are Expensive Waters Just a Scam? The Shocking Reality | Cormac Hayden DSH #867

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Are expensive waters just a scam? Dive into the shocking reality on this episode of the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! Join Sean and special guest Cormac from Oasis as they uncover the truth about bottled water companies using tap water and the hidden contaminants lurking within. From sparkling waters lined with microplastics to energy drinks, discover how these products may not be as pure as you think.

Cormac shares eye-opening insights into the water world, revealing how most bottled waters are not regulated like drinking water. Learn about the importance of filters, the danger of forever chemicals, and how top-quality waters are scored. This episode is packed with valuable insights on how water choices can impact your health and longevity.

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CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Intro
04:34 - Scoring Water Quality
07:01 - Tap Water Solutions
08:01 - Best and Worst Tap Water Cities
11:19 - Water Obsessions
13:23 - Ideal Drinking Water
15:43 - Benefits of Hydrogen Water
17:40 - Water Scoring Methodology
20:30 - Tate’s Future Plans
23:00 - Legal Challenges in Water
23:20 - Theats Study Overview
25:20 - Future Water Positives

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I was researching you.

Apparently, these bottled water companies are literally using tap water.

Yeah, most of them.

And what's crazy is that you'll get a lot of bottled water that's like spring water.

And because people will think about like, oh, this or that, we want it to be from the spring.

But when you turn to sparkling water, it's all tap water.

Same with energy drinks.

It's all tap water going through RO.

And then they put it with cans that are actually blinded with microplastics.

All right, guys, his first show.

He's He's been making a scene all over social media.

I'm sure you've seen this guy if you know anything about water.

Cormack from Oasis.

Thanks for coming on, man.

Thanks for having me.

You've changed the game for a lot of people's lives.

Yeah, I guess so.

It's the water world is a crazy world, and not a lot of people know about it.

Yeah.

When did you become aware of what was going down in the water world?

Honestly, when I moved to LA about two and a half years ago, I came here.

I came from the Midwest.

drank top waters, drank from the hose all my life, came here, and I got sick immediately.

That's crazy.

I didn't have have to go to the hospital or anything it wasn't like anything crazy like that but i started drinking from the tap water here stomach aches i couldn't sleep at night and i looked it up and sure enough it's poison wow yeah and now they just announced they're gonna recycle wastewater into the tap water in la right yeah toilet to tap and it's already fat enough i mean yeah i mean

most people drink put in their food every day they drink it for hydration they give it to their pets, but it's literally just toilet water.

Yeah.

And if you look into it, it's 300 times the health guidelines of so many different contaminants that if you saw what was inside of it, no one would be drinking it.

That's insane.

And people also showering it and then the steam, right?

Yeah, that's the thing.

It's like a gas chamber, literally, because you have the steam and it's just, you're breathing it in all day.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah.

So you think a filter would help with that?

Or?

Yeah, for sure.

Definitely a shower filter.

Yeah, the best filters to get are like a home filter.

You want to get reverse osmosis.

Most people know that.

But you also need a carbon filter on top of it because a reverse osmosis won't filter on all vocs wow or chloramine or chlorine so you want carbon filter you want a reverse osmosis filter and probably a voc filter geez um

i don't know do you use a filter like a brita or anything i use um a shower filter and then britas i don't trust because they're literally being sued right now like yeah actually they don't cover what they filter nine contaminants yeah and there's like 500 i used to use one in college and i thought it did stuff yeah same so i fill up the picture and the with the filter like i'm the healthiest guy on campus right now yeah turns out it's just it's awful man all marketing right it's all marketing that's everything same with bottled water yeah so yeah when i was researching you apparently these bottled water companies are literally using tap water yeah most of them and what's crazy is that you'll get a lot of bottled water that's like spring water and because people will think about like oh this or that we want it to be from the spring yeah But when you turn to sparkling water, like LaCroix

bubbly, it's all tap water.

Same with energy drinks.

It's all tap water going through RO.

Holy And then they put it with cans that are actually lined with microplastics or plastic on the inside.

Are you serious?

So there's just like so many layers to it.

And then for the cans, the sparkling waters, the FDA doesn't consider them drinking water.

So they're not required to share their water reports with any consumer.

So if you try to call them, email them, DM them on social media, they'll deny you every time.

They won't let you know it's in their water because they're not drinking water, I guess.

That's crazy.

So Red Bull's monsters, they're probably using toilet water.

Yeah, yeah.

Red Bull, I actually looked up recently.

They're one of the few that uses spring water.

Oh, okay.

But most other brands, yeah.

You would think Red Bull, it's probably terrible, but that's what I thought, yeah.

You should switch to LaCroix for the Red Bull.

I used to drink LaCroix thinking I was fancy.

I know, dude.

And they use fucking toilet water.

Yeah, just take a cup in your toilet, you're good.

Yeah, and now even these glass water, some of them aren't good for you.

Yeah, it's it depends.

I mean, it's you really got to look at the source.

Like, you can put a fancy bottle on a shelf and say it's purely natural, but if you get it from

they can just get it from tap water and say it's completely fresh and it's good for you that's insane same with fiji i just drink fiji too yeah their marketing is crazy great go to any luxury gym any podcast big podcast they have big fiji bottles because it's a point of status and

it's just it's some of the worst water they have like a ton of arsenic in it water their their water sits on can in in the bot in the plastic bottles as they ship it overseas like a lot of it is in the sunlight it's just that's insane yeah that's how you get more mycoplastics from the sunlight, right?

Melting the bottle.

Yeah, the polymer.

Now, some people think your scoring is strict.

What do you say to critics like that?

I think we're in a new era of

we've gone the past hundreds of years trying to survive and build this baseline of making sure everyone has enough food, has a right to medicine, has enough water.

But we're in this new era.

this new era of longevity, of how we can make our lives better and live longer and just have better lives overall.

And so that's, that's what I'm fighting for.

And I think obviously people like Brian Johnson are kind of leading that charge of questioning, hey, maybe we have a ton of abundance now.

You can go to the grocery store and buy anything you want, but is that stuff actually good for you?

Yeah.

And so how I rate the water is based on ideal scores.

And if we're not living, trying to live up to our ideal life as a society, I don't know what's the point.

You're like David Portnoy of the water world.

Yeah.

Obviously you've given out many 80s, 90s, 100s.

No, no, because that would be lying to people.

If they bought a hundred water and it was actually only a 50 right they could do better what's the point yeah but if you set the bar high i think the goal is for all these brands to change and to provide better products for people right what's the high score you've given

the highest score is like a 95 okay halstein or halstein i haven't heard of that i think it's halstein yeah it's actually i'm pretty impressed they do the most some of the most research i've ever seen they get their water from the austrian alps wow and they they tap this like natural reservoir and it's completely natural, very expensive.

That's why I don't drink it.

This is like a next runner-up.

But they test for PFAS.

Most brands don't test for PFAS.

PFAS isn't even regulated, yet it's in most of our water.

It's definitely

in your top water.

And they've known about it for over 50 to 60 years.

So why do you think they are not regulating it then?

The EPA just came out with like guidelines and recommendations and they're going to try to enforce them.

But it's the government.

Like if no one is there to question them or these brands even, they're going to do the most minimal thing they can do.

So that's kind of the mission is to call them out.

Because I think they could step up and do better.

But yeah, I get so many messages each day about how someone's dad used to work in the army and on their site they found positive PFAS in their water.

Oh my God.

And they had died early from cancer.

What?

So it's this like well-known thing that PFAS is super correlated to cancer.

Holy crap.

I didn't know you could die from that that quick.

Yeah, I mean, it's forever chemicals.

You can't like,

you can't digest them.

They're just inside of you.

Do you think tap water is fixable at this point, or do you think it's just too far gone?

I think it's a luxury thing.

I think we'll need technologies like Ephora or like companies like that

or a ton of other filter systems like Aquatrue is a good one.

Sans is a good one

that figure out how to use this water because there's so many people and we're going to need the water not just for drinking, but for showering and like watering.

But I think the wealthiest people in the world would choose not to drink tap water because once you strip it of it goes through that process,

it's just like eating a Twix bar or eating something that filled with a high fructose corn syrup.

You're not going to want to eat it, right?

Who would have thought drinking water could fuck up your life?

I know.

Water is water, right?

Yeah.

No, growing up as kids, we were taught to drink tap water.

It was good for you.

Really?

Where I was from, yeah.

Really?

Yeah.

In Minnesota, it was the same thing.

It was like you compare city to city, and we thought we had the best water because we're the land of 10,000 likes.

Right.

And I looked it up.

It's like we rated a 10 out of 100, basically.

Holy crap.

What's the worst and best cities in America for tap water?

Honestly, don't know off the top of my head.

LA is definitely one of the worst.

Major metropolitan areas are some of the worst for sure.

Well, they used to say New York City was good, but I don't know if that's...

That's not true.

Yeah, probably not.

Yeah, yeah.

The source is pretty good, but the pipes are so old

that it becomes super contaminated.

You'll find good ones in like remote areas of Colorado or Montana or even in Shasta County in California next to mountains and lakes because they'll just tap the natural sources.

But if you're in a city like Miami, yeah, you're toast.

So is this a U.S.

problem mainly or is this worldwide?

What kind of DMs are you getting from international people?

I think it's a worldwide problem.

Jeez.

The U.S.

has more guidelines in terms of people have to share this data.

Europe is probably the best because they have the strictest health guidelines.

But nowhere else, no one's questioning this.

Like I get DMs from Dubai.

All the water is in plastic water bottles it's so hot out there they have to be drinking hundreds of thousands of microplastics each day right um

yeah i mean that's one of the goals is to go test everywhere because i think it's a worldwide problem yeah how how are you testing these these waters uh we have a few lab partners one is called simple lab they're like my top score they're one of the um earliest people and like most prominent players We have a few other labs, but it's really expensive, honestly.

Really?

Yeah, to test like a single bottle for everything from heavy metals to pesticides to PFAS to microplastics probably costs maybe like $2,000 to $5,000.

Just for one bottle?

One bottle.

Bro, that's crazy because each bottle is a new batch.

So

you got to be testing them once a year, probably, right?

Yeah, at least.

And then many brands have like different types of water, so it could get expensive.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah, that makes sense why you charge for the site.

I saw some people pissed about that, but if you're paying $2,000 a bottle, I mean, that's expensive.

Yeah, that's kind of the goal.

I mean, to me, it's crazy apart from like the business side of if you're spending $10, 10 20

you're probably spending hundreds of dollars on water each month is it that crazy that you'd spend five ten dollars to know if it's healthy or not but i feel like people have just grown up

thinking that whatever they get from the grocery store is healthy and like they never questioned it and it starts with like questioning that and knowing no i see the value it's definitely a psychological block because people are just like it's water you know what i mean why should i care but i think people are developing some awareness yeah it's funny like i'll meet people who go to the gym seven days a week.

They eat only organic.

They do cardio.

They do the sauna.

They do the cold plunges.

Yeah.

Then they drink from the top.

It's like, bro, your body is 70 to 90% of water.

Yeah.

Like, that's the basis for your health.

So they're literally offsetting all their gains from doing all that.

Everything, man.

Just from water.

Yeah.

I don't even go in pools anymore.

Really?

I can't.

Why not?

Dude, because tap water, like, I don't go in steam rooms if it's not like the highest quality gym.

Oh, yeah.

You're literally inhaling tap water.

Yeah.

And pools have chlorine and all this weird stuff.

Yeah.

It's not good.

I've avoided them too, just because

it just doesn't feel good.

No, it doesn't.

You feel like shit out there.

Yeah, for sure.

Especially steam rooms, dude.

I used to love steam rooms.

Yeah, I feel like a suffocating steam rooms.

You definitely are.

Yeah, yeah.

Saunas are good, though.

I love saunas.

Yeah.

Are you obsessed about anything else other than water?

Obsessed about anything else other than water.

Health-wise?

I mean,

for me, this extends far beyond water.

Like, this is everything that we eat and consume, right?

Like, Aging 1 is one of the top supplements.

And I don't know if you knew they have a warning at the back that says there's lead in this product.

Holy crap.

And they tested chocolates, dark chocolates, super healthy for you, right?

I think 23 out of 28 of them came back with positive lead

in the dark chocolate.

So my mission right now is to just break apart every all of the products we consume and like figure out what's really really going on here.

That's a great mission.

Yeah,

it's been something I'm interested in my whole life.

Yeah, going up against big food and big water is going to be tough, but I think it's valuable.

Yeah, for sure.

I mean, they always teach you, you kind of got to question everything these days.

If they tell you it's healthy, you got to ask why.

Yeah, and most of the times they won't have an answer.

New superfood, right?

Yeah.

Acai kale used to be a superfood.

Now it has heavy metals.

They're finding out.

Yeah,

it's everything.

even like most of the sea salts in the world are like filled with lead too what or olive oil like

you probably heard this that they don't have enough olives in the world to produce all the olive oil like how do you think they're filling the bottles

seed oils canola oil seed oils that's disgusting i actually just bought brian johnson's olive oil oh really last week yeah yeah i haven't tried it yet but i'm really excited his food is honestly tastes so bad really but i'm such a fan yeah i haven't tried the food it's so bland that's how you know it's healthy yeah yeah that's the problem it's like what line do you want to cross to get to this health point yeah and i mean i choose to like optimize my health so i can have fun in other areas yeah like i'm not someone who doesn't like go and have fun with friends on the weekend or like have a cheat day for sure but it's about optimizing 80 of your life so you can have fun like all of it absolutely and not get out of balance yeah i like that i like that for sure um fluoride that's in water too right yeah it's in most water is that in bottled or just tap

um A lot of fluorides, like, because they pumped it into our water sources, it gone into lakes, streams,

rivers.

So it's in a lot of water.

Holy crap.

There are a lot of springs that don't have it.

So you can usually find some pretty quickly.

But a lot of people say like it's good for you to drink fluoride.

But if you ask your dentist, they tell you not to swallow your toothpaste.

If you look at the back of your toothpaste, they say not to swallow

the toothpaste.

So

that's to avoid it for sure.

I remember getting teeth cleanings as a kid and they used fluoride all over my teeth.

Oh yeah.

Because it's good for your teeth.

Yeah.

But you just don't swallow it, you know?

Disgusting, dude.

So what's the ideal water when it comes to like bottle?

Because you hear sprain, you hear filter, distilled.

There's all these different kinds of water, right?

Definitely.

So from an ideal point of view, is you want it to be sprain.

You want the sprain to probably be an aquifer

and it had to be natural.

So like the filter is gone basically down down a mountain.

It's filtered through granite and natural sediment.

It's picked up minerals.

It's filtered out a lot of the contaminants.

And it's done that for decades.

And then it's naturally rises out of that, out of that sprain.

So there's nothing being pumped into it and then bottled in the darkness and then kept cool.

In the darkness.

Yeah, because the sun can activate bacteria and bacteria can grow in the water.

Wow.

But no company is going to admit if they bottle during the day, right?

Probably not.

Damn.

Yeah, I didn't even think about that.

But yeah, the microplastics too with the sunlight.

There's a company called the Live Water that like markets just that is they bottle at the source and they do it in the darkness and they pump it right into glass.

So they're one of the key ones.

Interesting.

I never drink out of plastic.

I carry this thing around me wherever I go.

Yeah.

If I go to a friend's house and they only have plastic, I don't drink it.

So I only look for glass.

What about when you fly?

You just don't drink the whole flight?

I usually don't drink water.

At LAX, they just got Evian and glass.

That's the only one I'll do.

But as soon as you get outside of LA, it's

tough.

Vegas has nothing.

Yeah.

I had to choose between smart water and freaking Aquafina today in Vegas.

Oof.

Yeah, might as well die of thirst.

Yeah, right?

Those are probably bull zeros on your score.

Yeah.

What about this hydrogen water?

I'm seeing that on social media.

This is crazy.

So there's a ton of health effects, benefits when it comes to hydrogen water.

It's definitely on the fringe, so it can't be guaranteed yet.

But I've heard stories of people will bathe in it and their injuries will heal heal like 10 times faster.

Damn.

Like they'll break their ankle and they'll bathe in it pretty significantly throughout the day, and within days they can walk on it.

Holy crap.

Right.

It's it's kind of expensive, but it has a lot of anti-inflammatory properties.

So it's pretty promising.

The other one is deuterium-depleted water.

This is, have you heard of this?

No.

I haven't either until recently.

It's pretty wild stuff.

It's deuterium is a form of hydrogen, but it's a stronger isotope.

I mean, it's like harder to break it apart.

And most of the water on the planet has around 150 ppm of this deuterium in it.

And the higher it has, the less able your body is able to like use it and break it down.

Interesting.

But there's been studies of societies that have only drank deuterium-depleted water.

They live longer.

They're having babies into their 60s.

Whoa.

They're like just living.

healthier lives.

That's insane.

Yeah.

Having a kid at 60?

Where do you buy that?

You can get online.

It's like really expensive.

Like if you only drank that, it would be

$5,000.

Holy shit.

Yeah.

Do you drink a gallon a day?

I wish.

I can't.

You can't?

I can't.

Yeah, that shit's probably $10 a bottle, right?

Yeah, yeah.

Shout out to the companies, though.

Yeah, but apparently, if you drink quality water, you don't need to drink a gallon a day.

Of water?

Yeah.

Oh, I thought you meant a determined depleted water.

No, no, in general.

Yeah, I probably drink like four of these a day.

So you are drinking a gallon a day?

Yeah, definitely.

Okay.

Yeah, that's important.

Yeah, I mean, who knows, dude?

dude there's so much advice you never know what to listen to but that's why i like your your scoring system because it's straight objective your opinion isn't a factor if it has this that's the score it gets you know what i mean yeah that's the point and i'll have ceos these water brands like call me up and like they're like be like i love what you're doing but you should change this about your score and i'm like

CEOs that literally called you yeah all the time that's crazy and they'll they'll see when their score changes because they'll get a new report yeah and I'll get a text from them the day of that's hilarious I mean you have a lot of eyeballs on you right now.

Yeah, the goals have more, for sure.

Yeah, you've crushed it.

What was that first model video that

took this off?

Probably Mountain Valley.

Everyone drinks that one.

Yeah.

They're great too because if you're into health, Mountain Valley.

They actually got a new report that was pretty good.

But the point of the video was their old report.

They had

like 10 contaminant contaminants in it.

And if you buy Mountain Valley, you probably think it's super clean.

Yeah.

But the point was just to call it like, hey, if you're ordering this stuff, there's disinfectant byproducts in here.

There's, I think there was radium in here, so it's radioactive.

Like, do you know this?

And people are just like, what?

Like, I thought this was the best thing ever.

That was the first glass water I switched to.

And I saw that video.

I think you gave it like a 58 or something.

And I almost canceled.

I have the five-gallon subscription.

I almost canceled it.

Dude, that's crazy.

Yeah.

I pay for four or five gallon things a month and I give it to my dogs because people give their dogs tap water.

They're probably taking years off their dog's life without knowing it.

Dogs and pets can tell is i'll give my i have two cats and i'll give them tap water and they won't drink it wow they'll only drink it if i give them this that's crazy yeah it's wild i mean people just

they don't even know they're harming their pets you know what i mean they don't even think about it um another thing is mountain valley is like one of the only companies that offer the five gallon glass jugs so one of the biggest problems in this space is if you found a good water source of which i found a couple and i'll talk to these companies they don't know how to ship it across the us U.S.

in these in these glass jugs.

So there's almost an infrastructure problem of how do you get this clean water to millions of people across the world?

That's what I've noticed.

Recycle it in

an economical way.

Yeah, because when I was looking at five gallons, it was really only one option.

Yeah.

Mountain Valley, and the rest were like sketchy tap water ones.

So yeah, the rest is sparklets, culligan.

Yeah, sparkle.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I definitely get the glass.

That is crazy, man.

Do you even drink sparkling water?

No, I can't.

It's tap water.

So even the glass one, that uh, what's the fancy glass one everyone gets?

It's like green.

I forget the name.

Oh, Pellegrino?

Yeah, Pellegrino, right?

Yeah, that one comes from a natural spring, too, but has a ton of contaminants, so I don't drink it.

God damn it, Tate.

Stop telling people to drink tap water.

I know, literally.

That and Perrier is just like Perrier's in plastic, so yeah, yeah, I can't.

I can't drink that, yeah.

But they say it's good for digestion, but if it's tap water, it's probably worse.

Yeah, it's probably better than tap water, but geez, it's still still like man, so you're gonna start doing like packaged goods too,

TBD.

I want to be as unbiased as possible, but

I really want to solve the problem of giving people clean water to drink and clean food.

And might that might require building factories and shipping and logistics across.

Wow, you got big plans, man.

I guess, and you're young.

Yeah, it feels old though.

Yeah, yeah,

yeah.

I have

ever since I was in school, I like, I've been obsessed with building companies.

And it's interesting is

before this, I had an AI company.

We were funded.

But then I ran into this problem and I started sharing with people and I was like, man,

the smartest people in the world can go invent AGI, but nobody's focused on this thing that's killing us every single day.

So I kind of just felt called to do this.

And ever since then, it's kind of just clicked.

Holy crap.

But there's like a ton of money and opportunity for this.

I guess, but there's like, once you do what's actually you're you're meant to do, I feel like there's more opportunity.

You probably feel way better too.

Definitely.

Making a better impact.

Yeah.

No, I relate because I used to chase money.

Now with this pod, it's different.

Yeah.

I feel like you're bringing ideas to people and having meaningful conversations.

And that's important because people don't talk about this.

100%.

Like you're just growing up and you're just drinking plastic water and thinking it's healthy.

100%.

You're also doing it differently.

Like you're pumping out so many podcasts each day.

Yeah, we got eight today.

Wow.

That's wild.

You're really grinding.

But you're pumping content too daily.

Yeah, you got to.

I look forward to your reviews, man.

Appreciate that.

I was a little mad when you stopped showing the score, but I get it now that I know you're paying $2,000 per bottle to get it tested.

Yeah, I'm experimenting for sure.

The scores are back now.

Oh, they're back.

Yeah, they're back.

You got a lot of heat.

Too many haycocks.

You ever get worried that the water bottle company will try to legally come after you?

Yeah, I'm sure they will.

But what's good is that in this space, the divisiveness can always...

be like used in our favor.

Like as soon as they do, we'll just post a video about it.

Really?

Yeah.

And then like, because because when we posted how Waterloo refuses to share what's in their water,

millions of views on TikTok, millions of views on Instagram, hundreds of thousands of people saying they'll never buy Waterloo anymore.

Like, these companies should be incentivized to actually do better instead of suing us because they're just going to have consumers switch on them.

Wow.

So, you really gave them a low score.

Yeah.

Well, not on purpose, right?

Yeah, yeah, it's objective.

I almost want brands to come and like challenge us because that'll only help us.

Yeah.

That's great, though, if they're improving their product.

I mean, that's what you wanted.

That's the goal.

Yeah.

Most want, though.

Damn.

Well shit.

What's next man for you?

What's next?

I mean there's still a lot of work to do, right?

Like millions of Americans still drink the top water, literally just toilet water.

People outside the U.S.

have no idea what's in their water either.

Just bringing this product to

everyone in the world, basically.

Keep educating people.

And then you saw the plastics and testicles.

Yeah,

so the idea is to like, you think water's bad?

Talk about every other food.

Or did you hear about the phthalate study too?

No, I didn't see that one.

So do you know what phthalates are?

Oh, no.

Phthalates are plasticizers that are used to make plastic more flexible and durable.

Okay.

And they're used in everything.

So they'll come off from factory runoffs, but they're also used to like wrap all of our food, all of our toiletries and our cosmetics.

They did a test, I think, in January.

They tested like Chipotle burritos, Annie's mac and cheese, Fair Life chocolate milk.

and the recommended amount of phthalates you should consume is zero.

This stuff had tens of thousands.

Holy shit.

So you want your Chipotle chicken burrito wrapped in aluminum?

It was like 20,000.

Oh my gosh.

I used to eat that daily.

I know, Chipotle smack, but skip the aluminum foil.

No, I stopped eating it when I found out about seed oils, but that's even worse with the aluminum foil.

Yeah.

And I used to cook in aluminum foil.

Really?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Everyone does.

That's true.

You got to wrap it up after.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

And you even put on the grill.

Parchment paper, right?

Or just nothing.

Yeah, literally.

God damn.

There's so many things that we just thought were normal growing up.

Yeah, I know.

There's

my friend was also telling me a study, kind of gross, but

there's a trail in Seattle and they hike this trail.

And people will hike it so long they have to go to the bathroom on the side of the trail.

And now that they're finding that when people go poop, the poop won't decompose because it's so full of microplastics.

What?

Yeah.

So it's just like we're at a point now where it's like, that's wild.

and our body can't like get rid of it fast enough.

And now it's at a point to where

men's semen count is like 50% less than it was 40 years ago.

Largely due to all these microplastics.

It's in your clothing too.

In your clothing.

I just found out if you go on the sauna with underwear, you're basically putting microplastics.

You're just cooking yourself in it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And people wear shorts and jerseys all the time and cotton shirts.

For sure.

Yeah.

Man, scary world.

Yeah, but it's also bright.

Like at the same time, there's so many brands that are launching products that are microplastic free.

Right.

So it could be a really good world.

And once we get over this hump, we're going to be getting sick so much less.

We're going to be feeling better later, having babies into our 60s, 70s.

Like, it's going to be a fun time.

That'd be awesome.

Because right now they're capped at like 35, 40.

Exactly.

So 60 is great.

And there'll be way less pressure on women because I know a lot of women my age right now rushing.

having kids because they only got like three to five year window.

Yeah, you get to 30 and you got to lock it down.

Yeah, you start freaking out.

For sure.

So another 10, 20 years for them would be massive.

100%.

It's been fun, man.

Anything else you want to close off with or promote?

No, nothing to promote other than check your water on the waste sites.

Cool.

We'll link it below.

Thanks for coming on, man.

Thanks, man.

Appreciate it.

Thanks for watching, guys.

See you tomorrow.