Why Social Media is Destroying Real Connections! | Bobby Part 2 DSH #644

Did you find yourself in situations where you were outnumbered ever?

Oh, wow.

Make me think about this.

So, it's Saddam Hussein's hometown.

Okay.

All right.

It's a metropolitan city.

A lot of bad guys tried to hide in with the good guys in Iraq.

Iraqi police bring back someone they captured who was like very powerful.

The entire army that was in Tikrit saying, if you don't render us your prisoner, we're coming to the palace and we're going to kill all of you.

And that was the scariest hour of my life

all right part two with bobby we've gotten a lot closer so this one will be fun man i'm pumped how you doing good i'm good brother thanks for having me back what's up absolutely man so how you liking it in vegas you've been here like a year now right yeah um i was here before during covid which a lot of people escaped california because i've lived up in the bay area and it was real shut down so a lot you know a lot of people from california came out here to kind of get away and get a little bit more of that good old american freedom.

But

it was dead here.

It looked like the zombie apocalypse out here as well.

So I was here, but I really wasn't because it was closed.

This time around, I'm enjoying it.

I'm starting to feel

like I'm home or where I belong for the first time in over 20 years.

You know, I've moved a ton.

Haven't really lived in Jersey since like 2004.

So,

yeah,

it's been a pretty long road, but I love Vegas.

I tell everybody Vegas is, if you want to be a creator in any type of space,

even Hollywood's coming out here, I believe, to the north part of Vegas.

This is where you got to be.

It's cool to see you say that because a lot of veterans struggle to find, like you said, the second home once they get back.

And, you know, I see so many of my friends just bouncing around, living in basements, cars, or whatever.

But it's cool to see you found a home, man.

Yeah, yeah.

I laugh and I say like the first, the first almost 40 years was a hell of a ride.

And it was tough because the next 40 to 60 or 80 or 100 are going to be absolutely ridiculous.

And actually, your guest, I was talking to one of the guys yesterday.

He said

he fully believes that with technology now, we can live till we're 150.

Wow.

And I looked at him and he was, you know, you could tell somebody's just like saying some shit to say.

No, he was, he really believes that if with the food and the knowledge we have, we can live till we're 150 years old.

Wouldn't surprise me because there's people hitting, you know, 80 to 100 these days without the technology.

And now they got all this AI stuff.

They'll be able to detect health issues super early.

That's always been an issue.

It's funny, though.

You see the guy, the old guy who smokes two packs of marble reds and eats a ton of bacon and drinks nothing but black coffee and he lives till he's, you know, 99 years old, no issue.

And the guy who's like going to the gym every day has a stroke at 38.

You just never know.

Genetics, yeah.

It brings up the question is if, because like some people think you have a date already set in stone of when you're going to die, you know what I mean?

Do you believe that?

Dude, the more I look into numerology and astrology, it's kind of scary.

Yeah.

I don't know if I'm fully into it, but I don't know.

What do you think?

I think if that's true, then whoever's trying to take my life,

he's sweating because I've been getting away.

I'm at least my 15th life right now, especially after Iraq.

You've had a couple in your death.

You're talking to my house about one of them about being blown up by a mine, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, you know, back in Iraq, when I was there in 2007, especially before that,

IEDs were huge, improvised explosive devices.

I always said it was a coward's way out.

They don't want to stay in and fight us.

So we're just going to

blow the Americans up from a cell phone at 500 meters away

in the safety of our building or wherever they are.

So IEDs were, I think, one of the most casualty-producing

ways that Americans' lives were taken

in the entire Iraq war.

So that was their biggest weapon.

Yeah.

I didn't know that.

I thought it was gunfire mainly.

No, small arms fire is you know it is drastic but um

i mean you're talking in ramadi and like fallujah and some of the invasions uh of like the cities in the initial push the gunfire was a lot more but once they got they got they got smart i mean some of these ids were so improvised like

so we we have different ways that we're going to clear a building like if we know somebody's in a building if we have a vip or like a bomb maker or somebody and we already have intel or we have a snitch and we're going to go hit a house it got to the point where like

we first of all night vision and all anybody knows if you use night vision your depth perception is off you got to train so many hours and it just sucks i didn't know that oh try yeah try to clear a building in real time with with night vision it sucks so you if they got to the point where guys would literally break a house and we say go loud when you go loud it means we're not trying to sneak anymore we don't care about the enemy hearing gunfire we don't care about white Are you tired of ordering on a menu in a different country only to be served snails?

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Light, so we're just going loud.

They would go in a house, breach the front door, and the IEDs were now made where as soon as a light or a flashlight hit it, it would blow up.

Wow.

So crazy.

And how big was the radius?

I don't know.

I think just any type of light.

We used a lot of,

you know, the Surefire brand, which is pretty powerful on our M4s and a lot of our equipment over there.

So yeah, you go to clear a house at night thinking you're just going to go take

somebody and ask them some questions or whatever the case is.

You're worried about gunfire, maybe somebody with an AK, and you walk in, you kick the door in, you go look up the stairwell and there's a bomb and you hit the sensor and it blows the whole house out.

And you have no time to react, right?

No, you're dead.

You don't

know.

You're just.

That's scary.

Did you did you find yourself in situations where you were outnumbered ever

no no we were we were pretty lucky there was one night where oh wow you make me think about this so i lived in a birthday palace in tukrit so uh outside of um cobb spiker in northern iraq was so takrit is saddam hussein's hometown okay all right it's a metropolitan city probably the size of

Inner Vegas, like the strip and maybe to like just before like Spring Valley.

So they all supported him him there.

At the time we were there, you kind of knew who did and who didn't

because of

there's a lot of poverty.

So you know like his supporters lived in like some really dope houses.

And then they also had like yellow markers like

some of the streets like the curbs were yellow.

And

so what I'm trying to say is I lived in a city that was

pretty corrupt because it's a dom

and we lived in a little palace with the Iraqi army.

So the Iraqi army at one point came back to the little, uh, the little palace that we were at and said that

they had acquired a high-value target that they believe was like in charge of an al-Qaeda cell, but he was also

like a general or like a colonel or somebody in

either the Iraqi army or the Iraqi police.

I think it was the Iraqi army.

So he was a bad guy.

You know,

basically, a lot of bad guys tried to hide in with the good guys in Iraq.

There was no like, hey, that guy's wearing that uniform.

This isn't World War I.

So the only time I think we would have been outnumbered is we were literally in the palace and the Iraqi police bring back someone they captured who was like very powerful.

And they got a call from literally.

The entire army that was in Takrit saying, if you don't render us your prisoner, we're coming to the palace and we're going to kill all of you.

Wow.

So they tell, and I'm a private, like, they don't tell me much.

You know, I found out more after, but they're like, hey, wake up.

It was like two in the morning, get to the trucks.

And he said, like, do not let anybody in this compound.

But they're coming.

And that was the scariest hour of my life.

Just literally, like, there's walls that are maybe 10 feet, 20 feet at the most, brick.

You're in the middle of the city of Tikrit, 6,000 miles away from Jersey, you know,

20 years old, and you're told that 300 Iraqi soldiers are coming to take back their prisoner who's a part of al-Qaeda and they want him back.

Oh my God.

And there's like 15 of us.

Did anyone pull up?

They never came.

Oh, thank God.

Thank God.

I would have been, man.

But that was one of the most, I've had some pretty scary nights, like actually getting hit by an ID and certain things.

But that hour of just sitting there, it's like...

It's like waiting for the bully to just beat you up and he never comes.

That's terrible.

Yeah, it's petrified.

Did you reach a certain point where you kind of accepted death was pretty possible yeah

have you heard that before i've heard of people come to peace with it but i don't know how to relate i've never that was a perfect yeah that's a perfect way to put it you're always scared anybody who says that they were not scared on a deployment to you know overseas is full of yeah like

you're scared I mean,

I'm scared to get kicked in the balls.

Like, of course I'm scared to get shot, you know?

But you do come to this point where like

i don't know if you're just you accept death or you just you you forget about home and that is just your reality now like i was there 15 months you know like after 10 months on a deployment going on patrol every single day and like

that like i don't i don't say i deployed to iraq i say i lived there that was home

there was no if i thought about home or jersey or you know going back to germany or like the end of the deployment i don't know how I would have drove myself nuts.

It's like guys in jail, you know,

they say, like, if you count day to day, you're going to drive yourself crazy.

Yeah.

So, I did, in a way, accept death by just being able to perform.

Because if you do not accept the fact that you could literally have your torso blown off by a can of Pepsi while doing a dismounted patrol, you're never going to be able to operate at your full capacity.

You're never going to be able to walk down a street.

Every single window, every kid playing soccer, every freaking goat, cow, car is going to just make you want to throw up and you're not going to be able to move.

So

you're walking around not knowing who to trust.

So were you even engaging with the locals at all?

All the time.

Oh, you were?

Yep.

Yep.

All the time.

We did a lot with the Iraqi police and we basically had a map, like a huge map, and we had pins like that, like thumbtacks.

And the color of the thumbtack basically told how they felt about American forces.

So if it was red, it was like they kicked us off their property.

You know, it was bad.

Our interpreter was like, no, they were probably Saddam loyalists, or they could have been a part of an al-Qaeda cell at the time, or whatever the case is, they did not want Americans there.

Then we would go to other houses.

If it was like blue, they invited us in.

We drank chai, we sat down and

had great conversations with them.

So,

yes, we basically tried to knock on every single door from Cadesilla all the way through the city of Tikrit.

Wow.

Obviously, it's impossible to do that because there's a lot of high-rises, but

anytime

you got, and some of you guys that have been overseas can attest to this, it sounds crazy and morbid, but I remember times being on a dismounted patrol where there was a lot of buildings around us, like let's say Saddam Boulevard in the center.

It's like the biggest,

we called it the gut.

Like, because if you go through there, you're basically going to get in a fight.

And we would,

I personally would always have candy.

And it wasn't just to give candy out.

It's because like I always believe the sniper is not going to shoot through children to kill me.

Wow.

So, I would always get a bunch of kids around me and take a knee and hand out candy

so that I had sniper cover with kids.

Yeah, kids are off limits for snipers, right?

Kids and men.

I hope so.

They were at least

in the movies, at least.

But then that same guy who doesn't want to shoot a kid will blow up himself in a marketplace.

So

were there suicide bombers there?

Oh, yeah.

We had a vehicle-borne IEDs, which is a V-bid.

I have a funny story about that.

A lot of people don't get to see the things that I saw, but I was also living it like for the first time as a kid, even though I was like an army soldier.

Like I was a child, you know?

Yeah, you were like 20s, right?

I was 20.

So I remember we got, we were working with the Iraqi army once, and in the middle of the city was like

a depression, kind of like the size of a soccer field.

And we got intel that there was a car there that could possibly be weighed down or be like a bomb.

So we went with EOD guys, explosive ordnance guys, and some of the Iraqi army guys.

And sure as hell, it was like a regular car, but it was like, you could tell it was weighted down.

So,

long story short, it ended up being a bomb.

So, the EOD guys, and I'm 350 meters away in an up-armored M1151 Humvee,

inside with like headphones on, like looking out this four-inch thick window.

And these guys, the EOD guys, you crazy bastards, they come out in like spacesuits and walk almost right up to this car

with a huge like, you ever like, you know, the pool skimmer?

Yeah, yeah, the net.

It looked like that.

But at the end, they had a blasting cap and they put it in the car and then they walk away.

What does the cop do?

They blew the car in place.

They did a three-minute countdown and blew it up.

But they got that close to that thing.

Dude.

You couldn't pay me enough.

And I've been blown up, but I didn't like walk up to the bomb and go, hey, blow it.

Yeah, those EOD techs are nuts, man.

They got balls.

So is it true when you see a grenade that that someone throws, you're supposed to jump on it if there's people around you?

I guess that's up to the person.

There's a lot of people in this world that I'd kick it towards.

But that's a decision that very few have had to make and only a fewer heroes have made, you know, so I don't know.

I do know that like...

There was different tactics when I was there.

They had a lot.

A lot of the issues that we had were crowds and then hearts and minds.

So

when I first got there, I was there under Bush.

And then middle of the deployment,

Obama won.

And then when Obama won, obviously presidents, when they come in, they want to make change.

So he decided that American forces would now allow vehicles to pass them and ride with them

so that we could seem a little more equal.

Well, he's not the one worrying about the car blowing up.

Or, you know, somebody, you stop because somebody's crossing the street and then a car comes from the side and takes your whole squad out.

So when people have asked me,

and I brought up earlier about

how our politicians are so separate,

I am one of the few people and my battle buddies that have been directly affected.

Like my direct daily life was affected by the decision of a sitting president because I was a gunner in the turret in Iraq.

who used to be able to keep cars 100 meters away and try to keep some type of safety boundary.

And because of the president's decision, they could now pass me within three to five meters.

Wow, that's scary.

I used to do this and my soldiers would say, like,

why do you do that?

And I would just say, so when I'm back home in my casket, at least my face is still there for my mother.

Jeez.

Because when those bombs go off, a car bomb, you're done.

Yeah.

Damn, what a decision.

And now the current administration, how do you feel about that?

With Biden?

You know,

a lot of people would think, because I'm like this tattooed up white guy that I like sell like Trump hats out of my trunk.

But I just went to college in San Francisco when I walked away from the Department of Defense and got tired of like, you know, just training all the time and dealing with the DOD.

I went to barber school and then I went to cosmetology school at Paul Mitchell in the Bay Area.

My wife

and her, you know, came from a really strong liberal family.

I have a lot of, you know, gay friends and some trans friends.

I love everybody, but I get put in the bubble because of how I look.

People just, they just assume I'm like kicking down doors and, you know, throwing Bibles at people.

What I will say is I've never, I've never voted.

And the reason I've never personally voted is because I was a soldier, I was a sergeant, and I had a job.

And

like, I tell you, you're my friend.

If you're my friend, I'm loyal to you forever.

That's it.

So I was loyal to whoever the sitting president was and my chain of command.

So I felt like if I voted, I'd have a bias.

Interesting.

So I just wanted to do my job to the best of my ability at all times with no bias.

So I've never really voted.

I was in San Francisco when it was announced that President Biden won.

I was actually filming a commercial for film school

right up by the famous houses that are called the Painted Ladies.

We had to, after two hours of filming and about 40 people on set, we had to break down and go home.

I've never seen in my life so many young white girls dance around with champagne and scream and people beep horns like it, like it was, it was crazy.

Wow.

The entire city of San Francisco erupted.

I was literally in the heart of the city when they announced Biden

won.

I've never met a Biden sporter.

It was, I'm telling you, when Biden won, San Francisco was,

it looked probably like Portugal at the World Cup won or something.

It was nuts.

Wow.

Like little, little white girls who probably never had to deal with anything crazy in their life.

They're in San Francisco going to college at a park on a blanket.

Like, come on.

They're running around dancing as if like it was the greatest thing that happened to the world.

And I love that they felt, I want people to be happy.

But this administration has proved, and it has nothing against who the person is or the administration.

But

this is like, is this real life?

Like, as far as I'm concerned,

this is our time.

And we're supposed to be the most educated,

you know, group of people because of technology than any other time in the world, right?

Yeah, but we are the dumbest group of people I've ever seen.

It's crazy to me.

Yeah, and one of the things you say is people kind of forgot how to connect with each other, right?

Yes, you think that's because of social media.

You know, my wife's 10 years younger than me than I am

and super hot.

So, you know, I didn't grow up with social media.

You know, we had, I think MySpace,

MySpace was a thing after high school.

But I, you know, I didn't grow up with social media.

Like, we had like, I still had a Nokia phone, and I played snake on it.

Yeah, yeah.

And, you know, and I had a beeper.

What's up?

It's a little,

you know, it's probably

a quarter of this.

Oh, it's a phone?

No, no, it's a little pager.

Okay.

So like if your mom wants to get a hold of you, your pager has has a number and she'll page you like

whatever your code is like my dad always did 911 because he was a cop and that meant like call me okay you know and then i'd go to a payphone and i'd call him oh she couldn't even talk on it you know okay it just vibrated on your pants interesting yeah a lot of yeah a lot of guys used it to like sell weed back in the day

but uh communication when i grew up was what we're doing right now like this is a lost art you know um talking to people and for some reason

i don't see it getting any better And I'm guilty of it.

Like, I'll be home sometimes on the couch and I have my beautiful wife and my daughter right there.

And my daughter's on her iPad and my wife's on her phone and I'm on my phone.

And

it's depressing, man.

I don't know.

It's addicting, dude.

It's tough.

And I try not to go on my phone when I'm physically talking with people, but it's super hard sometimes because our lives are so like all over the place, you know?

What do you think is next?

I did just hear that Elon Musk has successfully rendered the first Neuralink.

Yeah, first human got it.

I'm not going to get get it yet, though.

Do you know about that a little more?

Is it more to connect you to your phone and it's like a Bluetooth in your head?

Basically, yes, you have access to, I believe, the internet in your head.

So if you want to Google something in your head, you could just do it without a phone.

Wow.

Yeah, I think you said the first few thousand will probably be people that have disabilities or paralyzed.

Yeah, apparently it can cure that, which is nuts, because it fixes the missing thing within the brain.

That's crazy.

Yeah, so I mean, I'm excited for it.

We'll see what happens.

It's a little scary, though, I'm not going to lie.

Yesterday, I was driving home from the wind,

and I was just looking at the buildings.

And I follow Las Vegas of like 1950, you know, on Instagram.

I get to like look at Vegas

in a way different view than we'll ever see it.

And I was looking around and I was just thinking, like, what is Vegas going to look like in 500 years?

Could you imagine?

Flying cars, probably.

I mean, that's it, even if we're here in 500 years with all this World War III talk going on, right?

Yeah.

I think that

at the biggest level of leadership, meaning presidencies or

those men have never really lived a hard life.

So I don't think if it comes down to nuclear war, if they know that if they press the button, they die too, I think they'd be too scared to push it.

Yeah, I think everyone's scared to be that first one, right?

After what we did in World War II.

No, I think they're all pussies and like they'd be scared to actually go to war.

I don't think that, like, do you think, well, maybe Trump would press the button knowing he's going to die?

Like, oh, if I press this, they're going to bomb me in five minutes.

But I, you know, just most of the people that get into like that, that high a leadership, the president have never had to be on a roof getting shot at or like been homeless or watched their mom do drugs or like whatever the case is.

They've lived a pretty successful life of hardships, but not like.

threats.

Right.

So they'd probably compromise with the other president before they press the button.

It's also super hard to know who our actual enemies are because I don't trust the media.

And they painted China as an enemy.

They painted North Korea, Russia, and you really don't know.

My brothers.

You would know because you were physically there.

Yeah, but were they even the enemy or were they freedom fighters?

Right.

I look back now.

Like Amir Al-Bazi is a friend, is a friend of mine.

He's about to fight for the belt in the UFC.

He's from Baghdad.

Wow.

When I was there, he was a kid.

Damn.

He was in probably middle school.

And now I'm giving this guy a hug at the UFC Apex.

Why did I go to Iraq?

Because of 9-11, you know, painted some hate into my heart because my dad almost passed away.

Like,

I was the perfect incubator for hate.

And I look back now at 18 years later and I think, why?

Look at the country.

Like, who is the enemy?

My older brother's in China right now.

My nephew is half Chinese.

His mother is not American born.

She is from China.

Like, so I support

Chinese people through and through.

That's my blood nephew.

It's my first nephew.

China's supposed to be an enemy, but my brother's there having a blast right now.

And he said it's beautiful.

The people are intelligent and articulate, and he loves it.

Chinese people are hard workers, man.

I don't know who the enemy is.

I think we're the enemy.

I think every person individually is the enemy.

Facts.

I think it's on a human level, right?

Yep.

I mean, who even knows about North Korea?

I mean, maybe they're chill dudes over there.

I don't know.

You never know.

That movie, maybe we should.

That was a good movie.

That was a good movie.

That was funny.

Any tattoos you regret?

Yeah.

Yes, if I can give some advice to you youngins.

Obviously, I'm real tatted up.

I would say that if I could take most of my face tattoos off,

I would

because there's been

tattoos are weird.

Being in the content creator space, it's been...

pretty positive but coming from like the dod police and certain things has been pretty negative um I would tell anybody like under 40 years old that doesn't have like a job and a pension and, you know, a successful business, do not tattoo your hands, your neck, or your face because you're going to get judged.

You know, I'm very good at opening my mouth, smiling, and letting people know who I am based on like what's on the inside and not on the outside.

And I surprise a lot of people.

I get people like.

They want to cross the street sometimes and then I'm like, hi.

And they're like, oh, you're like not a murderer.

I know I look like I just got out of prison.

So I would say the face tattoos, and if I can give any advice to you

young men and women out there, do not tattoo your significant other's name on your body.

So almost 18 years ago, I was on my way to Iraq and I was married to somebody I had just met.

I thought I was in love.

Oh, you just met?

We were together three months and got married.

Wow.

Yep.

Because I didn't think I was going to come back from Iraq.

And if I died, she would have got like 400,000 cash.

So I was just like, might as well, because then I'm not coming home anyway.

Why not like you get money for it?

Wow.

I didn't expect to come back.

But I got her name tattooed on my entire back.

Jesus.

Want to see it?

I've seen it.

You can show the camera if you want.

I will.

Yeah, fuck it, right?

It's probably the biggest name I've ever seen tattoo-wise.

I had her name across my whole back,

and then I had to get it covered.

Oh, my gosh.

Crazy.

And now it's a skyline, right?

Now it's the New York skyline.

Wow.

Did she do the same?

I don't think so.

I don't know.

I hope so because I know she's remarried with a with a with a you know beautiful son now, but uh she at the time she got my name down her spine.

Wow.

Yeah.

So the other way, like yeah, yep.

So for her new husband's sake, I hope my name's not down her back anymore.

Yeah, I was never a fan of the names because you never know, even friendships could be lost, significant others, you know, names or Chinese symbols.

So like I just said, my sister-in-law's from China.

I go to my dad's.

We're at my dad's pool.

And she looks at me and goes, Bobby, what do you think that says?

I have a Chinese symbol on my chest.

And I said, what do you mean?

It says respect.

And she goes, no, it doesn't.

And I was like,

shut up.

Yes, it does.

So apparently I have

in Chinese,

it means to put on a hat.

No way.

On my chest.

The guy messed up.

Yeah.

Bruh.

Yeah, if you're going to get a Chinese tattoo, you better get a Chinese guy doing it.

Yeah.

I know we got to go.

I'm going to give you a fun, fun thing before we go.

So in the addiction community, one of the biggest things is the serenity prayer.

Everybody knows that.

So anytime anybody that's in the sober community or like, you know, knows about addiction, they see the serenity prayer, they put it immediately with addiction, right?

I get out of the army, I'm home, I'm putting a trampoline together in my dad's house.

My brother's friend, who I've never really met, comes over and says, do you want to help?

And I said, yeah.

He takes his shirt off and he has the serenity prayer from the top of his neck down to the bottom of his back.

And I'm like, oh man, how long you've been sober?

And he goes, what are you talking about?

I said, what do you mean?

What am I talking about?

He had

this three feet long serenity prayer in his back.

And he had no idea.

I said, bro, every time you take your shirt off, people think you're a recovering drug addict.

Wow.

And he has lost it.

You have no idea?

No.

So we're talking about tattoos.

Do not get the serenity prayer until you do your due diligence.

That is rough.

Bobby, man, where can people find you, learn more about you, your vlogs, and what you got going on?

So right now, I just started a new podcast called the Life of War podcast.

I wanted to do something for the veteran community and for mental health to give back because we're losing up to 25 veterans a day to veteran suicide.

And so, yeah, you can tune into at life of war

on Instagram.

It's pretty much the same.

And then I'm doing a vlog every week.

So every week I'm finding a veteran who's pretty much where I was six years ago, doing drugs, down, depressed, doesn't really want to be alive.

And I'm taking them to an awesome event every single week, and we're filming it.

So, uh, yeah, come support.

Yeah, check it out, guys.

We'll link it in the video.

Thanks for coming on, brother.

Thanks for watching, as always, guys.

See you tomorrow.