Spotify SCANDAL Exposed: Major Labels CHEATING the System! | Chip Tha Ripper DSH #573

Because I was on your Spotify.

You don't drop many albums.

You know what?

I don't.

I try to go quality over quantity, but I'm going to start trying to, I want to balance that out.

Yeah, because it was 10 years.

Yeah,

that's a long time, man.

You really perfect that stuff.

I don't want to just give people music just because it's time for music.

I want to give them something they can use.

Yeah.

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All right, guys, Chip the Ripper, King Chip.

You got two names.

Yeah, two.

How many people are established enough to have two names, man?

I got two, man.

When did you make that switch?

Well, I did a...

Sad attempt to change my name, but little did I know Chip the Ripper was not something you can just tuck away and bury so

and then I ended up doing some really cool things as king chip So I just kind of got stuck with two names to Spotify accounts.

Nice, you know, but it all rose lead to me.

I love it man, and you've been in the music industry for pretty much your whole adult life, right?

Yeah, yep.

Mm-hmm.

And was that always the plan growing up?

It was.

I mean, yeah, since a kid.

Yeah.

Nice.

Since a kid.

And what was that first kind of breakthrough moment for you where you started seeing some big traction?

High school.

Oh, high school.

High school, yeah, man.

It was, you know, my story was one that kind of started out.

Well, it started in the neighborhood,

the neighborhoods where I'm from, and spread into the high schools and went high school to high school.

you know, got into the clubs, the club DJs would start playing it, and then the radio caught wind of, you know, how much noise it was making.

And then at the same time, there was like line wire.

I remember Lime Wire.

Yeah, so Soldier Boy.

Yeah, you know.

So, simultaneously,

as it's spreading like cancer and regionally, where it's coming, where it's from,

it's making its way on Line Wire and going to places I don't even know.

I have no idea.

So, I'm showing up to places, and they know who I am and been knowing who I am for years.

And I'm like, well, I've never even been here.

Yeah, it was Linewire.

That's dope, bro.

What was that first big hit?

Hit song.

Oh, man.

In Cleveland,

I had this big song called I'm Fitted.

And I'm Fitted just means like,

I got a really nice outfit on.

And then there was another record called Get It Girls.

And

yeah, those two

are pretty big.

And they were solo episodes, just you?

Well, one of them, just me, and there was the other one, Get It Girls, featuring another artist from Cleveland named Al Fatz.

Nice.

Yeah.

So this scene in Cleveland was pretty popping back then in the music scene?

Honestly, it was something that we kind of kick-started.

There was myself along with a few other artists.

So my very first mixtape, I just kind of pulled all those artists

onto the project because I felt like it would be a lot stronger if instead of me just making my first mixtape,

I would just do it with all the artists that I saw that were around me that were doing...

doing really cool things as well.

So that project is called Bitch I'm from Cleveland.

What a name.

It's a legendary mixtape in cleveland that's cool for sure yeah so you grew up watching lebron oh yeah man yeah i grew up

um actually his uh his agent rich paul grew up in my neighborhood so he was always like a staple like a superhero in our in our neighborhood yeah you know and uh and then and then he met and then he met braun and you know but he was already somebody and oh yeah and together

oh yeah yeah and then yeah in our neighborhood you know i'm from the same neighborhood as bone thugs Thugs and Harmony, so it's

east side of Cleveland, St.

Clair, but yeah, he was, yeah, he was definitely somebody the whole time.

Yeah, I saw you say on another podcast, it was like a pretty rough neighborhood, a lot of crime, man.

Yeah, I mean, you know, hopefully

we can get it better, but unfortunately, yeah, it's like that.

Yeah, so this was kind of your escape to get out of there, right?

The music?

Oh, yeah, without a shadow of a doubt.

Yeah, I definitely use music to escape and to

offer a different perspective to whoever was listening on behalf of where I'm from.

Right.

And I think growing up in that environment like inspired your music too.

Yeah, I mean

the two biggest inspirations of my music is of course being from the part of Cleveland that I'm from.

But also, you know, I was born into that family that's in the ghetto where we weren't like our surroundings.

Like my grandmother, she wasn't having it.

So, you know, I was born born into a family of educators and

you know you know like my dad got his master's degree you know he got it right out of the ghetto you know him and my uncle damn you know what i mean so like

we live in the same place but we just in in our household it was just we striving for greatness we wasn't trying it wasn't no adapting to our surroundings that wasn't an option yeah so that's interesting so that being said did you have trouble finding people to hang out with and relate to with that mindset no I was just different

yeah yeah it was I mean we was in we definitely was all in close proximity so you know finding a friend wasn't hard okay but um

but I just was there I just I was just a little different you know why didn't you make that move out here

you ever played GTA and you beat the game yeah and then it's like nothing really else to do yeah yeah so I felt like I re I got to that part in Cleveland yeah and I just wanted to

put the next game in and play that one.

Phil up.

What year was that?

2011.

2011.

So now you're taking over L.A.

next.

Man, you know what?

Everybody in the world wants to take over L.A.

LA's a hard one to take.

I don't even know if it's takeoverable.

You can just surf the wave, but you can't own the ocean.

Because there's too many big people here.

You can't even.

Yeah, you can catch a nice little wave and surf it.

But I don't know if it's a place you can just take over.

It's too big.

It's too

much politics already going on here.

For sure.

But you have collabed with some of the biggest, man.

I was checking out your new album.

You had Wiz Khalifa on there, right?

Yeah, yeah, Wiz, man.

Shout out to Wiz.

That's legend.

Super talented, brother, man.

What was that, like, a song with him?

It was really...

It was clutch.

It was like...

It wasn't even something that was planned.

It was just something that...

I don't know.

I think the album kind of made itself in some ways, but that was one of the ways.

Because I just bumped into him and was like,

yeah, I'm going to turn the album in.

He's like, oh, where is it?

Too late?

I'm like, nah.

He said he was going to knock the verse out.

And, you know,

I'm sure he's busy, so I didn't really like.

I wasn't really holding him to it.

He just said he would do it.

But he did it.

He did exactly what he said he was going to do.

Wow.

And just randomly ran into him.

Yeah, yeah.

So it was, it was clutch because that record wouldn't have made the album, but I loved it.

It was so good.

but it wasn't done so it wasn't gonna go on album yeah but then Wiz turned it all around and it's like the it's like the best one that's so cool yeah and you must have had a good reputation right because he wouldn't just do that for free for anyone no I mean you know we we definitely go back man he's a he's a big inspiration to me and he's really a real he's a real dude that's awesome you know what I mean for real yeah and you also are super tight with kid cuddy too right oh yeah that's my brother you've been on so many songs with him yeah yeah how did that relationship start

oh man just you know,

mutual friend.

Mutual friend years ago, many years ago.

In Cleveland?

Yeah, in Cleveland.

Is that where he grew up too?

Yeah.

Wow, I didn't know that.

That's cool, man.

Dude, he's got so many iconic songs.

Most definitely.

I mean, he was all I listened to in high school.

That's the guy.

Most definitely.

That's my bro.

Yeah.

Hell yeah.

I want to talk about the new album because I was on your Spotify.

You don't drop many albums.

You know what?

I don't.

I try to to go quality over quantity, but I'm going to start trying to, I want to balance that out.

Yeah, because it was 10 years.

Yeah, yeah.

That's a long time, man.

You really perfect that stuff, huh?

Yeah, man.

But you know what?

The experiences are important, though, to me.

Like,

I don't want to just give people music just because it's time for music.

I want to give them something they can use.

Yeah.

So sometimes I got to,

like looking back, it's like I wouldn't change it because I got so many useful experiences that I can incorporate into the music now.

So, it's like it makes the music more rich.

You know what I mean?

That makes sense.

It's got replay value, and you can use it.

It's a perspective that you can implement that may be more powerful than one you already got.

So, you know what I mean?

Like, that's kind of how I see the useful music.

I love that.

Do you have a main message of the songs you're trying to get across to your listeners?

Or is it different on each song?

I mean,

I think that overall

I'm trying to have a relationship with the listener.

So when you ever, any relationship, the goal is to relate.

That's why it's called relationship.

So I just want to relate to the listener and then

also incorporate a perspective.

You know, so like, I guess that's the goal, really.

You know what I mean?

How'd you get your own Fortnite, Matt, man?

I'm jealous.

Man, I teamed up with some really cool developers, man.

And

they are, well, like Brian

yo Greg Jesse like they they get it popping you know they I had to put on the

the motion capture suit and because I got a live performance I mean I got a performance yeah and in Fortnite and

I got a map too that they're not the same thing

two separate things so you performed I performed yes the performance is in Fortnite right now dude that's dope yeah I got like an 80-foot crocodile that's like behind the stage.

It's like, it's crazy.

It's awesome, man.

Yeah, I saw a couple of those concerts on Fortnite.

They're sick.

Eminem did one.

Yeah, yeah.

And I think

Olivia Rodrigo might have done one.

Yeah, there's been a few big ones on there, man.

They're changing the game.

Yeah, definitely.

It's definitely a dope experience, man.

I did a map of Cleveland.

Well, like specific landmarks from Cleveland and put it on the map.

It's a Zone Wars map.

Cleveland versus

LA, I think it's called.

I love that, man.

Dude,

it's one of the most popular maps, too.

I see it on my homepage.

Oh, dope.

It's got thousands of players, right?

Yeah, man.

It's really cool, you know, and I'm going to start doing some cool stuff, like just

giving fans incentive to play in the map.

My son, he's really good.

I'm not that good, but every time I get a kill on him, I act like it's like the greatest thing that ever happened.

That's hilarious.

I'm going to add you, man.

We'll play.

I'm pretty good.

Man, my son is really good okay he's i'll have to play with him because i'm in unreal like the highest one yeah yeah i'm pretty nasty dude oh you guys should get together dude i was a pc gamer my whole life and i quit for business for like five years but see i can't build i don't play build but he but this my son he plays and he has first of all he's not even using the controller he's using the keyboard and the mouse that's what i do yeah and he's going crazy like

he's going they call out a sweat fortnight yeah i don't i don't play build mode dude

he he's building on the keyboard mouse like he's going crazy he's building doing

i'm like how are you moving that fast and that accurate like yeah i'm good with that oh yeah he's if he wants to play zero build man hit me up and that's what i told him i'm like yo the building you you're gonna you're gonna get me every time with this building but like

yeah zero build that's what i need to get him russ has been uh exposing some of these labels i don't know if you saw it russ the rapper yeah on Andrew Schultz podcast.

What did you think of that whole incident?

What he exposed the labels?

Yeah, for faking their Spotify streams.

The labels are doing that?

That's what Russ said, yeah.

Wow.

Man, I mean,

yeah, you, you, um,

does it make money?

Does it make when you fake your Spotify streams, is it, do you get, is it like printing money?

No, I don't think you make money, but um, when you inflate the numbers, he was basically saying it leads to you getting on the charts.

And then that leads to bookings.

And then it's like they make money in the long run.

I see.

Dan, that's kind of...

I don't know how I feel about that.

Yeah, so basically, someone like you who's not doing that, people are outranking you.

And it's because he alleges it's from the labels, basically.

I mean, you know what?

At the end of the day, you know,

it all boils down to what you can pay for.

You know what I mean?

There's always going to be something new that hits the market, whether it be the black market or the retail market, that is going to spark your interest and you're going to want to pay for it.

So everybody's looking to provide that.

And then it just so happened to creep, that plague just so happened to creep onto the Spotify streams and the billboard, you know, it's affecting all that.

But,

you know, it's just, it's just how,

you know, it's just, I guess it's just how it goes.

Yeah.

Were you ever signed at any point or have you been independent?

I've been independent the entire time.

Yes.

My entire career.

Because back then it was normal to get signed so why did you not pursue that road you know what um

the closest I got gotten to signing with a label was um

uh

I think it was in like 2020

2013 or 4 no 2014 or something like that but I got an offer from a major label and

It wasn't the money that was the money was great.

It was just the back end terms.

You wanted a 360?

I didn't even have a problem with that it was just like they were almost like owned every owned me yeah in the sense of like

my likeness like I couldn't even sell a shirt with my silhouette because that's my likeness you know what I'm saying so

it was tough it was like

if I do if I didn't like do really good numbers and they would pretty much drop you not drop me they would just own me right so you were like a slave to them almost yeah I wouldn't you know, it's just like, I think the smarter thing to do now,

now that we live in this day and age, is get a line of credit.

Get it, you know, get with the LS, get your LLC and stuff together, and get business credit.

You know, just get a bunch of lines of credit and pay for the things that the label pays for yourself

with the credit.

And, you know, just you know, route your tours and do all that and make them money back, pay your credit, you know, and just, because labels is

they're a little more than a bank, but they kind of like a bank.

Yeah, if they're not doing any marketing, they're pretty much just giving you money.

Yeah, so you can get a line of credit, and your music's not involved with that.

So, you know,

no one owns the rights to your music because you got lines of credit to spend on it.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

So, I agree.

There's so much you could do on your own these days.

I feel like labels have lost their value for the most part.

I mean, I don't think they lost their value.

It's just that they got to come up with a better business model.

Because,

you know, people are smart now.

You know what I mean?

Like, and people aren't as desperate as they would have been when there was no other way to be a star except to be on a label.

Now being on a label is not the only way to be a star.

So it's like they got to kind of, you know,

compromise.

You know and kind of step off their high horse a little bit.

You know what I mean?

How do you feel about modern day rap and hip-hop as someone who's been in the the game for a while?

You see most of the people that have been around hate on it a little bit, but how do you feel about it?

You know what?

I love anything that

brings feeling.

And I don't let the politics of anything get in the way of me seeing how it makes me feel or seeing how it makes other people feel.

Because sometimes I might not get something on my own, but when I'm around a bunch of people that do, maybe there's something about it that I can like appreciate.

And then I can, then it's then it's hitting me differently.

So, you know, I don't look to hate on things.

A lot of that's just a lot of people probably look to hate on something,

and you know, that's cool.

You want to test the durability of it, but yeah, if you're seeking it out, it's gonna manifest, right?

Yeah, yeah.

So, do you have any favorite artists right now?

You know what?

I got favorite songs

because I don't think there's many artists that

I love everything they've done except for like Curtis Mayfield.

Curtis Mayfield?

Yeah, like I like like old, they're like old school.

But

I love a lot of stuff that

I hear, like a lot of the

new songs.

You know, whether it be from, you know, like Travis, Future,

you know,

man I can go on and on I mean yeah I feel like naming naming two people already now I feel like I got to say like 30 more names no no I feel like certain people I used to like a lot there sometimes their songs don't hit the same you know yeah so it's more like song-based rather than artist based for me

yeah I mean it's just about

you know

the way you look people listen to music in different ways And like the things that they're looking for in order to call it good may be different than what I'm looking for.

Like, like, and I used to have a different,

my criteria used to be different for that.

Like, now it's changed.

Like, now I just want to feel it.

Before I wanted to hear it, I wanted to, you know, analyze the lyrics, you know, dissect it, really

look at it under a microscope.

But now I just kind of absorb the overall vibe and the overall,

you know, it doesn't have to be as clever and intricate and witty and everything.

now it can just like make me feel like something 100%

all right enough with the music let's talk dating man you got you got an interesting perspective on dating oh yeah I want to dive into how that happened like has it always been that way

well

I think

I think polygyny is what for someone like myself

I think it's my nature.

It's not the same for everybody, every man, because every man is not the same, you know, but for myself,

I feel like it's always been my nature.

And to have someone you can share that with and like who can encourage it and like,

you know, like kind of like live with me in that space, too,

is really, really cool.

So you all live together or is it different?

Well, not at the at the moment.

I mean, but the idea is to

have a tribe, you know, that,

you know, lives and works together and contributes, you know, together.

I've seen dating shows on it.

I think, I forget what type of religion does it, but somewhere, and they have like eight girls and one guy in the house.

Eight, whoa,

never works out.

I mean, eight is a lot.

That's a lot, man.

Do you have a cap like number?

Not really.

I don't really think of it like that.

Yeah.

You know,

I think it's kind of odd to like have a projected number of women that you want to be with for some reason.

I don't know.

It's like you just, if it happens, you just, yeah, join the trust.

It's just real, yeah.

Yeah.

Damn, that's interesting.

I just feel like, I don't know, jealousy and stuff.

Has it worked out for you, like, when there's two or more?

I mean, it has to be

honest and true.

You know, because sometimes you may have a party or a person involved that's in it,

you know, for a particular reason and not because that's their honesty and that's their truth.

You know, so they may have something they're trying to accomplish.

Right.

Or, you know, like sometimes you have

a woman that's really not,

you know,

she's not really her thing, but she's just doing it because she really wants the guy.

And then it just kind of gets crazy.

Yeah, because someone in your shoes, people want that recognition, right?

I mean,

you know, it's

a love connection is a powerful thing.

It doesn't even,

I mean, I've seen a lot of guys with a lot less going on have,

you know, the same, you know, happiness, you know, when it comes to that kind of thing.

So.

That is interesting, man.

Yeah.

I don't know if I could do it.

I mean, it's...

Not for everyone, I guess.

For me,

it wasn't something that I proposed.

It was something that my lady,

yeah, my lady, my fiancé was like, yo,

it would be cool if when she first told me, I was just like, I thought she was trying to set me up.

Aha.

Yeah.

But, but no,

she was honest and true.

That's so cool.

So, in my case, I didn't have to,

you know, I didn't have to like

do any convincing or anything like that.

So, she gets hooked up with other guys too?

No, polygyny is specific to there being only one man,

but multiple women.

Got it.

You know, so like no other dicks in the mix.

Shit hanging out on your wall, man.

Dude,

it's been fun getting to know you, man.

Anything you want to promote or close off with?

Oh, man.

Just kingchip.com.

All right, cool.

Link to the video.

Check out the new album, man.

Yeah, new album, the Charles Worth LP, man.

Pour my heart and soul.

21 tracks.

Yo, check it out.

Awesome.

Thanks for watching, guys.

As always, see you tomorrow.