Lucifer NEVER Existed: Shocking Biblical Revelation Exposed! | Esoteric Eddie DSH #568

In the during the process of writing that book, I learned that Lucifer never existed in the Bible.

Oh.

Yeah, never existed in the Bible.

And I was perplexed at how we could create such an archetype, such a character, and without him ever actually existing in the Bible.

Right?

Because most of our world is based on the Abrahamic faiths.

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All right, we got esoteric.

Is it esoteric?

Esoteric.

Esoteric Eddie here today.

How's it going, man?

What's up?

What's up, man?

It's going good.

Glad to be here.

Dude, your work is so fascinating.

I'm curious what you're working on right now, but we'll dive into what you previously covered as well.

Yeah, yeah.

What are you up to?

Man, right now I'm getting ready to work on my fourth book, my fourth book, fourth and fifth, actually, the fourth book, the fourth non-fiction book, which is going to be covering the historicity of Jesus.

Finally, it's a lifelong subject that I've been meaning to get into.

And then that's the non-fiction book.

And then the fiction book, I'm going to get back into fiction.

That's actually where my love with writing started way back in the day.

Wow.

So I want to get back into that.

I'm going to be revamping

the psychedelic thriller that I wrote when I was like in early high school.

Hey, that is cool, man.

Like 10 years ago, yeah.

What's some things you found out about Jesus?

So far, I'm just now getting started on the research.

Typically, well, now it'll probably take me about six months to eight months until I finish the book.

But so far, what I've learned is,

well, there are three main different theories about him, right?

There's the theory that, number one, he just, he wasn't real.

Yeah.

Right.

It was all just mythology mixed in with astrotheology and stuff like that.

And then there's the other theory that, you know, maybe

the more prominent one is that he was the son of God, right?

Son of God and all of that.

And then there's one that's kind of in between that, where it's like he was a real person,

but he was more so a political figure that borrowed a lot of his ideals.

Not necessarily borrowed, but was influenced by a lot of the ideals coming from the Essenes, the authors of the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Gnostics, and

was very just political and was eventually murdered and martyred because of that.

And then that martyrdom created the mythology around him, the celestial divine mythology around him.

But I'll find out, man, about eight months from now, I'll have a clear answer on what I think and what I believe.

So you haven't formed a conclusion yet on the three?

No, man.

I mean, I'm a default Christian, so I grew up in a Catholic and Christian home.

Right.

And so I'm a default Christian.

Christ is the only person I've ever prayed to, the only person I ever felt comfortable praying to.

But to be honest, like as a person, I'm not convinced that he was a real person yet, you know, and that's what I seek to find out.

Is there anything taught within the religion industry you grew up in that you think never happened or you think is far-fetched?

Oh, a lot.

Yeah, a lot, man.

First of all,

thanks for having me on.

Glad to be here.

And thanks to everybody listening.

And

yeah, so I go by esoteric Eddie, and I've been working under that brand, that name for for two years, just two years.

But prior to that, I've lived a life as an artist, content creator for similar subjects, but just different aliases, different purposes.

But under Esoteric Eddy, the past two years, I've published three books, three books,

dropped a lot of documentaries and videos and just small pieces of content across my platforms.

And I bring that up to say

Most of my content has to do with deconstructing religion.

So that's kind of why I laugh when you ask that, because most of my content is about deconstructing religion and why it's a fallacy or a facade.

And it's not my purpose to be vindictive about it.

I'm simply looking at this stuff as a historian.

And so the first book that I published that got me popular within these spheres was my book titled The Lucifer Mystery Revealed.

And

during the process of writing that book, I learned that Lucifer never existed in the Bible.

Wow.

Yeah, never existed in the Bible.

And I was perplexed at how we could create such an archetype, such a character, and without him ever actually existing in the Bible.

And

so that's a major one, right?

Because most of our world is based on the Abrahamic faiths, Judaism, Islam, Christianity.

And

it's unfortunate because even right now, the whole Israel-Palestine thing is like pseudo-religious.

It's not necessarily just about religion, but it plays a huge role.

And it's unfortunate because the people at the top, in my belief, don't actually adhere to the religions at all.

So it's just us people down here who are being played, you know, thinking that these religions, you know, hold real weight within the upper echelons of our world, but they don't.

It does seem like religion is being used to divide.

Oh, yeah.

And I'll even go further than that.

And I'll say that religion was created to divide.

Wow.

And you found evidence of that?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

So, in my Lucifer book, I speak about a little bit about that, but I get more so into it in my second book, The Anunnaki Theorem.

Right.

And also, I have free documentary versions of all my books on my YouTube channel

that people can watch.

And so, what I learned was

Judaism was specifically created

to control people.

So,

and with that inherently comes division,

right?

And the Bible even tells us that, right?

So the early Israelites, and before I go on, are you religious?

I'm not.

No, okay.

Just curious.

I'm spiritual, but I'm not religious.

Okay, okay.

You know, I used to say that too, but I'm not convinced that I'm spiritual,

even spiritual.

Really?

Yeah.

I'm like, am I even spiritual?

So you don't believe in astrology or?

I do, I do, but like, I don't really, like, live my life based around these things.

Like, I do believe in them, and I think all that stuff is fascinating, but I'm an existentialist more than anything.

For me, it just means I believe there's a spirit.

I think there's levels to spirituality, which you're probably alluding to, but for me, I think there's a spirit.

Yeah, yeah.

See, I'm like kind of both because I'm like, I'm definitely not religious.

That's for sure.

But I'm like, am I even spiritual?

You know, but I think I'm existential.

To me, that means like, I know we are infinite.

Like, I know that we have an infinite consciousness, which we can also get into later.

Yeah.

And I know that we have a creator.

But I'm not here to like live by that dogmatically.

I'm here to also embrace my humanity and my, you know, my action.

You don't believe in destiny, fate.

No, I do.

I do.

I do.

But like.

Belief and like living things out is two different things to me.

You know what I mean?

Like, yeah, I can believe them, but like, I don't like live these like hard-centered beliefs or anything you know that makes sense like i'm just i'm for real i'm just i know i'm infinite i know i'm a spiritual divine being like there's no doubt about that but like right now right here i'm just i'm just eddie you know like i'm just a human living out this this avatar this specific time timeline here and i i'm not afraid to be human you know like that's what we are right now so i'm here to embrace that Yeah, sorry to take you off on a tangent.

No, no, I love that stuff.

That's why I wanted to go there.

But anyways, getting back to it.

So

what I learned was, first and foremost, the early Israelites were a branch of Canaanites.

And

the Canaanites were a branch of the wider Phoenician kingdom, Phoenicia, Canaan, all these ancient cultures and religions that were residing in the modern-day Levant.

which is like the Holy Lands, Syria, Lebanon, Jerusalem, all that stuff.

And so prior to Judaism, that entire part of the world and pretty much the entire known world were polytheistic.

They're polytheists.

They believed in multiple gods.

And so Judaism broke off from that world and slowly created Judaism.

And the reason they created Judaism is because they were trying to stop themselves from ever being controlled again.

Because

the Jews were taken captive by the Babylonians.

This is true in history.

So the Jews were held captive

by the Babylonians.

Hold out of bees there.

They were held captive by the Babylonians and almost completely wiped out during the Babylonian exile because of that.

But luckily, King Cyrus the Persian came through and took over the Babylonian Empire for some time.

And Cyrus was, luckily for the Jews, Cyrus was religiously tolerant.

So he let the Jews free and said, you can go back home if you want or you can stay here.

And some of them stayed there, and that's what created the Babylonian priesthood within Judaism.

Wow.

But a lot of them went back home.

And when they went back home, they were instructed by King Cyrus and

the Institute, the Royal Institute of the Persian Empire, to go back to their people and give them a new law.

And that that law should work in accordance with the laws of the Persian people.

And as long as it did, that they can practice the religion freely.

And so the Bible tells us this.

And the Bible tells us that the prophets Ezra and Nehemiah went back to Jerusalem after the Babylonian exile with a new law.

And this law was intended to unify the people so that they would never be weak again

so that another empire would control them.

That new law that they went back with was the Torah, was the Tanakh, the Old Testament.

And so they went back and created the Bible specifically to center their beliefs, to center their control, and unify the people.

And that blueprint was recreated with Christianity.

And when the Roman Empire was on the rise, they had a similar problem that the Jews had.

And that problem was that their people were too chaotic.

They were too weak.

They weren't unified.

They were believing in all kinds of stuff.

You know, paganism, the Roman gods, the Greek gods, this and that.

So Rome took the same blueprint and decided to make Christianity the universal religion.

And so they centralized power.

And so they had one government,

one government, one rule, one God, one everything.

These were

the first formations of the one world government idea.

And so, yeah, religion, man, the Abrahamic faiths, starting with Judaism, were specifically designed to centralize power, to control people.

And that blueprint has been recreated time and time again.

It seems like a lot of history has been lost over the years.

How were you able to uncover these truths?

Just a lot of work, man.

A lot of homework, a lot of research, a lot of sacrificing, a lot of nights, a lot of days.

But like where are you studying this exactly?

Because it can't be on the internet, right?

A lot of it is.

Oh, it is?

A lot of it's internet and books.

So

I started, I mean, this has been a lifelong fascination for me.

So I've been fascinating in the Bible since I was a kid because I grew up in a religious family.

One of my earliest memories, one of my earliest core memories, like one of the first five memories I have was me walking into the daycare at church and then seeing this huge portrait of Jesus.

It looked huge to me at the time because I was like five or something, you know?

And I just remember staring up at that thing and thinking like,

like, who is that guy?

Like, why is he there?

You know, so I had a fascination with him and the Bible at the very beginning of my life.

And that fascination led me down this journey journey of wanting to uncover truths.

And so I've read a lot of books, rare books, old books.

I've watched a lot of documentaries, a lot of videos, YouTube stuff, you know, here and there.

But a lot of heavy stuff too.

I've listened to a lot of lectures, full-on lectures, like master degree-level lectures.

I've had to read a lot of papers, like old, old papers, PDFs, stuff like that.

And I've also had a lot of conversations with people, firsthand knowledge.

I've gotten a lot of first-hand knowledge from having conversations with people and just a lot of experiences, life experiences as well, psychedelics, mystical experiences that kind of put things into perspective for me.

But to that question,

it's funny to me because

a lot of people just rely on people like me, you know, who make content, you know?

And like people will make fun of me sometimes, like, oh, you probably just watch YouTube videos or whatever.

Fair, fair enough, you know,

for today's age, but they're wrong.

I mean, I'm the guy who makes the videos, you know, and I've been doing

a lot of research for close to two decades now.

And what's funny to me is that like a lot of people will only, I can tell when people are only watching the YouTube videos because they say the same rhetoric,

the same rhetoric.

And there's certain subjects, like certain sub hot topics that every, that get recycled every so often.

Every YouTuber in my space makes videos about them and i've done like a lot of research on some of those subjects for example one would be the world war iii letter and albert pike so there's a theory out there that um confederate general and high-ranking freemason albert pike wrote a letter to giuseppe mazzini who was an italian revolutionary yeah and

basically communist socialist, detailing how the three world wars

would play out.

Wow.

And the theory is that he wrote this in the late 1800s, way before the First World War.

And this is a subject that gets regurgitated on, you know, considering that.

I've never even seen it, yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

And I made a video,

you know,

diving into this, and I dove into this the same way I dive into anything with my unbiased historical method.

Yep.

And so it took me about a week of sifting through, like, took me a week, right?

Sifting through so many PDFs and books that I have and, you know, cross-referencing things until I finally ended up at the source of this theory.

And long story short, it's false.

Wow.

It's false.

He never wrote a letter predicting the three world wars.

It didn't happen.

It was a game of telephone.

And I have a video explaining that.

So I'm just saying that to...

you know, stress the point, man.

I can tell when people are only just watching the videos or when there's people like me who are actually doing real, I don't even like to say research because it makes me feel sound like like I'm degreed or something.

I have no degrees, I'm a college dropout, but I definitely do study.

I mean, you can call it research, but I definitely take time out of my life.

I sacrifice time out of my life to study these things, actually study these things.

Now, when you're studying these ancient civilizations, was there always war or was there times of peace?

There's pretty much always war.

Wow.

There was pretty much always war.

Our modern timeline, according to the mainstream Academicians, is only 7,000 years,

which is pathetic and kind of silly to think that everything we know has only happened within a span of 7,000 years.

And we know that's not true because we have sites like Gobekli Tepe, which go back like

9,000 to 14,000 years.

We're always uncovering stuff that goes further and further back.

And so,

Yeah,

we have not only been around for 7,000 years, but our modern civilization has only been around for about 7,000 years, going back to the Sumerians.

So the Sumerians were the first.

They were very fascinating people who gave us all the first, the first governments, schools, writing systems, beautiful structures that were aligned to celestial counterparts.

And

even these people were a warring people.

And that's the reason why they fell.

That's why the Sumerian kingdom fell, because they were never unified.

It's the same problem that the early Jews had, same problem that the Roman Empire had.

They could not unify.

And so the early Sumerians were always warring with each other.

And these city-states had their own god, their own Anunnakis.

And so

they were never unified.

And so eventually, Sargon of Akkad,

the ruler of the Akkadian Empire, came through and just wiped him out.

Wow.

Just wiped him out.

How did he wipe them out?

Actually, he did it through a campaign of appealing to the people as a divine ruler.

So he actually won the hearts of the people.

There's a legend that is told about him.

And in the legend, it is said that his mom, it's a strange story that's very similar to the story of,

I believe it's Moses.

But anyways, in that legend, it is said that his mom was a priestess of the cult of Isis.

Or Inanna, sorry, Inanna.

And that she

became pregnant,

probably

divine immaculation or whatever, divine conception, you know, that old excuse that they would use.

Yeah.

Yeah, so she got pregnant, but she had to hide the baby.

So she put him in a basket, floated him down a river, and he was raised by a farmer.

I think I've heard this for some reason.

Yeah,

this is a story of Moses.

Okay.

Right?

It's Moses, right?

He's the one I was put in the basket.

I think so, yeah.

I used to go to church when I was super young.

Yeah, pretty sure it's Moses.

One of those guys in the Bible.

Yeah, it's kind of weird, right?

So it's like, huh, did somebody copy this?

What's going on?

So, so Sargon basically appealed to the people and said, like, I'm divine because my mom had sex with an angel or whatever.

That excuse they use when they have a, you know, that, that, uh, that side piece.

Yeah.

You know, so he's like, I'm, I'm part divine, but I'm also like one of you because I was raised by a farmer.

And so for whatever reason, that worked with the people.

And they're like, yeah, you know, I guess it's kind of similar to like Trump today, like siding with the Midwestern people and everything.

Right.

You know, like how he won the whole Midwest.

Similar, similar concept.

So he won them over with that kind of concept.

And they liked him and he was able to unify the people, unify them enough to kind of like destroy all the other detractors.

They say history repeats itself, right?

Did Sargon reincarnated.

Wow.

Is it true all humans originated in Africa?

Dude, I mean, no.

Because you hear that all the time.

Some of us came from other worlds, I believe.

Yeah.

But

generally speaking, I could say, yeah.

That's where it first started.

Anthropologically speaking, sure.

But what I'm actually, this is an ongoing piece of research for me.

I'm trying to find out the origins of white people.

Because that fascinates me.

It's like nobody can really put a hold on it.

Like we,

like, we know where dark people came from, mostly from Africa.

Right.

So was everyone black at the first, I guess I don't even know what to call it, but

were all the first humans black, basically?

I would say so.

Like, this is an ongoing research for me.

It's not something I've concluded yet, but I've always said that the original people of this earth were black people.

Okay.

You know, I think the original humans of this earth were black, darker-skinned people.

And at some point, white people came on the scene.

It's almost as if they came on the scene.

They literally just showed up.

Yeah, that's fascinating.

We got to figure out what happened.

Yeah, well, so what I'm finding is

there was something that happened during the Indo-European migration.

It's what they call it.

The Indo-either, some people call it the Indo-European migration, some people call it the Indo-Aryan migration.

But there was a time period where white people or

the skin color of the people of Earth started to become more white.

And

that whole history, that whole debate is what fueled a lot of the Nazism, a lot of the occult beliefs of the Nazis.

Wow.

The Nazis were searching for the origin of what they called the superior race.

And

they were going into strange places to try and find these origins, like Tibet.

I have a documentary on Tibet that touches a little bit on this.

But yeah, there's pictures of Nazis out there in Tibet.

Really?

Yeah, you can find them online.

Wow.

There's pictures of Nazis in Tibet, like measuring people's skulls and like chilling with the monks out there.

Interesting.

Because they wanted blonde.

They wanted blue eyes, right?

They were very specific with what they wanted.

Yeah, because they understood that the ancient texts spoke of a strange race of beings.

All ancient texts have spoken about a race of beings

that created us.

And so the Nazis, like a lot of other fringe cultures and,

you know, surrounding the occult and esotericism believe that we were deliberately deliberately created by a race of strange beings either from a different star system a different planet you know and uh

and that that is that story is retold in the bible and this is something that i speak a lot about

That story is retold time and time again.

For example, in the Bible, in the Old Testament, when man is being created,

we are told

in the English version, version, and God said, Let us make man in our image after our likeness.

That is in Genesis 1.26, in any English Bible.

And you'll notice there is plurality there.

God said, let us make man in our image.

And so a lot of theologians have tried to explain away the plurality there by saying strange things like it's God talking to Jesus, God talking to the angels.

But the fact of the matter is the plurality is there because the word that was used in Hebrew wasn't God, but was Elohim.

And so when we read it properly, we are reading, and the Elohim said, let us make man in our image after our likeness.

And the word Elohim basically translates to the powerful ones.

So now we're being told the powerful ones created us.

And the early Israelites, the early Jews who wrote all this down, again, were a branch of Canaanites who were polytheistic people.

So they were carrying on the tradition of their ancestors who believed that we were created by a race of beings known to the Sumerians, the first people of our modern timeline, as the Anunnaki.

And so this theory...

has been around forever.

And again, people like the Nazis have taken it to extremes, thinking that their specific race, like the white people or the specific white Germanic people, were

descendants of these gods.

And the rest of us darker people were from Earth.

And so we're

different.

Right.

So again, man, this is an ongoing research for me.

You know, where did white people really come from?

And I got to find out.

Yeah, and it's something that's also fascinating to me because for my entire childhood, I always just saw myself as like a Mexican.

Yeah.

Because I'm Mexican, right?

But I identify more so as Chicano, right?

Mexican-American.

But I realized as I started learning and educating myself through all of this that I'm not Mexican.

I'm not like technically Mexican because

a Mexican is somebody who's indigenous to Mexico.

And Mexican and Mexico are indigenous words.

They're not Spanish.

They're words that are indigenous to that land.

I didn't know that.

Yeah, the Machica are the people of Mexico.

And the Machica means the anointed people

and the machica the actual machicans are you know shorter darker skinned usually have like the strong mayan bit bridged nose yeah right stark black straight hair little to no facial hair that's not me you know so what i learned is that obviously i'm more like european more spanish because at one point the spaniards came obliterated everything pretty much mixed in with the people there and created a new race of people, which was a mixed race of people, which are the Mexicans of today, like myself.

And even further than that, my last name, Gano, Kano,

was imported from Spain.

I used to think it was Mexican.

It's not.

And this is crazy.

I learned that I have, that my last name was imported from

a royal

man who was the fifth husband of the last reigning heir of the Mayan, of the Aztec Empire.

Whoa, you got deep lineage.

Yeah, yeah.

So the last heir of the Aztec Empire was a queen known by the Spaniards as Doña Isabel.

And she was Moctezuma's daughter.

And when Moctezuma was basically assassinated or whatever, his last dying wish was for them to look over her daughter, his daughter.

And they allowed her to be incorporated into the new kingdom.

They used her to help appeal to the people as a mediator, to the real Mexicans.

And so she's beloved by both sides.

But she had five husbands.

The first four died mysteriously.

The fifth one, however, was a royal from Spain known as Juan Cano.

And

they had babies and created a new lineage.

And what I learned was that from the point that the original Canos from Dania Isabel branched off into different last names,

that point from when my grandpa was born is only about 200 years.

Wow.

So

I might

have some compensation in there somewhere.

I might be entitled to some

wife.

You have to look into that.

Some free tacos at least.

Wow, that is fascinating.

Have you researched any of these crazier conspiracies like aliens, reptilians, anything extraterrestrial?

Oh, yeah, man.

Yeah, yeah.

Aliens was one of the first.

subjects that I was fascinated with as well as a kid.

I remember watching Unsolved Mysteries with my grandpa.

Classic.

Yeah.

I remember watching the Betty and Barney Hill video.

And actually when I was around eight years old, my grandpa told me that he saw a UFO.

Wow.

And that was like a really life-changing moment for me and another one of those life experiences that continued me onto this path.

Because my grandpa used to be a pastor.

He used to be a pastor.

And again, we grew up in a Christian home, so the idea of aliens was never really like taken serious or anything, you know.

But one day,

I saw my grandpa smoking a cigarette off by himself like he usually would.

And so I decided for the first time to go ask him, you know, like, why are you always smoking a cigarette by yourself?

And he decides to tell me, you know,

it's because he saw a UFO one time.

And he was always kind of wondering about that and hoping to see another one.

And so that tripped me out.

And I was like, whoa, so like, aliens might be real.

And so that opened up a whole new area of research for me.

But I've never personally seen I've seen strange stuff in the sky, but I've never personally seen anything that I can conclusively say was a UFO or an alien or anything like that.

But I have read a lot of books, watched a lot of documentaries, spoken to a lot of people on that subject.

And what I do know is that for sure our government in specific has a lot of documentaries that are now declassified having to do with that subject.

And they've been studying the UFO phenomena.

for since the 50s at least.

Wow.

Since the 50s at least.

And we're now seeing it come out, right?

We're seeing it with like this UFO Senate hearing

with that guy, David Grush, and all of this stuff.

So it's like they're slowly disseminating it now and slowly opening themselves up to the public about what they know and what they've been researching.

But when it comes to aliens and UFOs, my opinions and beliefs have changed on them.

I used to believe...

you know, the general belief that there were little gray alien men coming from different planets on spaceships or whatever.

I don't believe that anymore.

I believe what's happening is a very complex situation and it's a mixture of what we would call dark ritual magic,

the collective psyche,

and

quantum interdimensional experiences.

Wow.

Yeah, it's a mixture of all of that.

And the reason I believe that, for one, is

a while back, I decided to try and make a compilation video of UFOs just for fun.

Sometimes I make compilation videos.

I've been doing that since I was a kid.

And so I set out to try and find videos of UFOs.

I couldn't find a single convincing video of an actual mechanical craft.

Yeah.

Not one.

They're all blurry, dude.

Blurry, whatever, right?

But even the blurry ones, it's like they're not really mechanical.

But what I did find, and what you can find, are hundreds, if not thousands, of videos and images of orbs, of these light formations.

And so it made me realize that UFOs

or what we call UFOs aren't what we think they are and are not what we are being told they are.

And these orb things, these light formations have been around for centuries at least.

Wow.

There's a famous case,

witness case of these orbs known as the Nuremberg UFO incident.

You can look it up on Google, Nuremberg UFO incident.

And it was so,

it was such a widespread phenomenon or experience.

Like hundreds of people saw them.

Hundreds of people saw them.

And this one dude drew a picture of it and wrote about it.

It's pretty cool.

And he talks about it.

You know, this was like in the medieval times, you know, I forgot when exactly, but like somewhere between 1100 and 1400.

And

he talks about these orbs.

He says in the sky on this particular day, there was these strange circular objects, black, red, blue, whatever, just dancing around in the sky and fighting each other is what it looked like to them, like they were fighting each other.

So these orb things, whatever those are, have been around forever.

And so to me, those are the real UFOs.

Wow.

The mechanical craft,

to me, those are government psyops.

Yeah.

Government psyops that are testing out anti-gravity technology that we have been studying since, again, the 40s and 50s at least.

Yeah, you saw it with Nikola Tesla, right, with Scalar Energy.

Yeah, yeah.

He was studying this stuff,

talking about it.

And he actually gave a pretty,

what's the word, ominous speech

in 1938, one of the last speeches he ever gave before he passed away.

And in that speech, he alluded to two discoveries that he made that he was going to tell the public when he had finalized his research.

He didn't tell us what he found, but he alluded to what he found.

And he said it has to do with the very smallest molecules and the very biggest of macrocosms and gravity and matter.

And so a lot of people think that he finally understood that the fabric of the universe

is interlinked all throughout.

And people think that he might have discovered what we call the fifth force of the universe, which I speak about in my third book, which has to do with consciousness.

And this fifth force is a theoretical force that NASA and DARPA have been studying again since the 50s and 70s.

And there are declassified papers on this now.

And this fifth force is this interconnected force that, if tapped into, could allow the capability of interstellar travel,

anti-gravity technology, and all sorts of strange UFO capabilities that we are now seeing.

Wow.

And is that basically interdimensional travel?

Well,

this is basically it.

So if we were able to tap into the fifth force, which resides everywhere around us and all throughout the universe, basically what that means is we would have an endless amount of energy, a fuel source.

It would be like sailing a boat through an ocean that runs on water.

So you couldn't die, basically.

Yeah.

So if we could tap into the fifth force, right?

Yeah.

That means we could create zero-point energy technology,

which would allow us to traverse the universe endlessly.

Time travel.

We could time travel.

We could just simply space travel.

We could do all kinds of things, maybe start to understand

what's the word like

dimensional

earth, Earth, what's the word?

Worm?

Wormholes.

Yeah, we could traverse wormholes.

Yeah.

Which NASA, there's a strange paper that NASA has going back to the 70s speaking about wormholes and the theoretical mathematics and science behind it.

And it all

depends on the fifth force, which, again, some people believe Tesla finally discovered.

That'd be cool.

What's your take on wormholes and black holes?

Those used to fascinate me as a kid.

I always wondered what exactly would happen if you went inside of one.

Oh, man.

Well, the way I understand it, right, it's like, I mean, it's all theoretical at this point.

Like, it's all theoretically possible.

We just can't wrap our heads around how to create the technology.

It'd be a huge endeavor.

Yeah.

But, yeah, I think they're theoretically possible.

And

I think it's...

Not just possible, but I think it's in our destiny to get to the point where we can do these things.

Wow.

And Tesla talked about that too.

He has a paper called Man's Destiny, where he spoke about us humans being basically, I'm paraphrasing, God's little spirit machines.

And this is a concept I speak about in my third book as well, The Crystal Lattice Mind Illusion.

I speak about our mind and body having a connection.

They're two separate things.

The mind and body are two separate things.

And together

they form the spirit machine, which Tesla also spoke about.

And it was, I believe, in our creator's intention for us to tap into this mind and body connection and to further tap into the fifth force around us along with the other forces of nature so that we can do these amazing things along with healing ourselves.

Because when we tap into the mind and body connection, we can also control certain parts of our body, beginning with our thoughts.

It all begins with the mind, the mindset, the perception.

And so when we really hone in on that, we can start to change our lives inward and then outward.

Yeah, look at Joe Dispenza, man.

He's having people cure cancer with their minds alone.

No way.

I haven't seen that.

He's cured paralysis with just thought.

No way.

Yeah, he was in a bad motor or, yeah, he got hit while he was running by a car or something,

paralyzed, cured it with his thoughts.

Yeah, there you go, man.

It's because

thoughts are very powerful, right?

And consciousness itself is very very powerful.

And we're now starting to realize that consciousness is not being produced in the brain.

It's not produced in the brain.

It's not happening in the brain.

It's happening with the brain.

Wow.

If they were able to prove that.

Pretty much, we're getting there.

We're getting there.

And this is what I speak about in my third book as well.

And we're starting to realize that in many different ways.

But

first of all, the mainstream theories on consciousness for decades now, hundreds of years or whatever, have tried to explain away

the miracle of consciousness by saying that it's all just in the brain.

There are about five or so major theories on consciousness as of right now.

And I speak about those in my book.

But all of them are pretty much the same.

They all just say that we're just robots and that consciousness is the result of all of our stimuli, all of our sensibilities working together at the same time, creating an illusory 360 experience.

For example, I can smell, taste, see, and intuitively feel things.

And because I'm doing that all at the same time, it's creating an illusory 360 experience of me being a person.

Right.

So if you were like slowly strip that away backwards, then you would lose consciousness, you would lose yourself, and you would be nothing but just flesh.

Interesting.

That's the mainstream explanation of consciousness.

Yeah.

But we know that's not true.

Inherently, we all feel that.

It's not true.

Because

if that were true, if consciousness was just produced by the brain, it's just an experience, an illusory experience, we would all basically be the same.

We'd be no different than

robots, but we all have a unique individuality.

And we can all go against our nature.

Your nature might tell you to eat, but you could say, no, F that.

I'm going to fast for 30 days.

That's true.

We do have that free will, right?

Exactly.

And so,

and further than that, right?

The theory of evolution was debunked by its own creator.

Was it?

Yeah.

Most people don't know this.

So in school, they teach you.

about Charles Darwin.

Yeah.

But they don't teach you about

his partner, Alfred Wallace.

Charles Darwin was not the only dude that created the theory of evolution and

the survival of the fittest theory.

There's another word, forgetting the other one.

But anyways, we'll call it the theory of evolution for now.

He got a lot of that.

He got help for a lot of that from his colleague, Alfred Wallace.

But Alfred Wallace, a few years after they came out with the theory of evolution, renounced it.

Wow.

He renounced it.

And he said that the theory of evolution, although it could explain how a lot of physical attributes came to be, how a lot of traits came to be, it could not properly explain how consciousness came to be.

And more importantly, why consciousness came to be.

That's true.

They never talk about that part of it.

Yeah.

And Wallace was a trip.

And we have

these letters of his.

Today still, these letters of his where he talks about this, or he says, like, I don't believe in the theory of evolution anymore it does not properly explain consciousness in the mind wow and he came to this conclusion because he started going to spiritual parties

these seance parties and so back then in the late 1800s seance parties were like really famous thing you know and so he went to these parties where people would gather around in circles and like play the ouija board and really summon spirits and interesting yeah there'd always be like a like a resident clairvoyant who would who would channel the spirits and in his letters that we have to this day he spoke about those and he said that he saw some crazy stuff.

Like he saw tables moving, he saw apparitions appearing and speaking to them and then like floating away.

Wow.

And he said some of these apparitions came out of the clairvoyant's head.

Like they would come out of them

and like look at them or whatever and then go back into their head.

So he saw all this crazy stuff.

And that's what made him realize, like, yo, man, like, the mind, consciousness, reality is like way more complex than just,

you know, the physical world.

Yeah.

And an interesting point that he made was, if one cell is not conscious,

then the addition of a million cells should not make it conscious either.

Saying that the brain is not where consciousness is happening.

It's happening with it.

That is so interesting to see, to dive into where consciousness stems from is a whole nother journey.

Yeah, man.

So that's what I get into in my third book.

And

quantum physicists, especially the more fringe physicists, are now realizing

that what we really are is consciousness

and that we are simply interfacing here through the body.

It's kind of like a turtle and its shell, as I like to say.

The turtle is in the shell,

but it is not the shell.

The turtle is not the shell.

The shell could be damaged, just like our body can be damaged, which will impede how the turtle lives.

But again, the turtle is not the shell.

We are simply interfacing through it.

Wow.

And one person who also realized this was a Mexican scientist by the name of Jacobo Grinberg.

Interesting guy.

I got a documentary on him, too.

And he was an accredited, degreed person, got degrees here in the States, got degrees back in Mexico,

opened up institutes in Mexico to study psychology and consciousness.

And he started doing these meditative practices where he would have two people face each other and and meditate with each other and try to build some sort of energetic connection for like half an hour that's cool and then he would he would split them up he would split them up and then place EEGs on them

and then he would take one of them and then flash their eyes with like light or images and the other person's brain would read the same activity No way.

Would read the same activity.

Wow.

And so what you realize is when people would meditate,

they were in in fact building some energetic connection.

But that that response was faster than the speed of light.

Whoa.

And

that made him realize that there is some sort of unseen realm, some sort of unseen dimension that he called the hyperfield.

And it is this hyperfield that we could call the matrix code.

And in this unseen realm, unseen dimension of our simulation is where the coding is happening, where the programming is happening.

And if we could tap into that hyper field, we could change our reality in certain ways.

We could heal ourselves, heal others, and to the extremes, literally change our reality.

That is so cool.

We had to figure that out before we passed away.

Yeah.

Well, yeah.

And he was planning on doing a bigger experiment where he was going to have two people on the other side of the world attempt to build this energetic connection.

Wow.

One person here, one person in India, but mysteriously, he disappeared in December of 1994.

Maybe he figured it out and just left.

Just took off, right?

I was like, peace out.

Yeah, nobody knows, man.

Unfortunately, he had this like crazy girlfriend

who he expressed to his brother he was afraid of.

Like towards the end of his life, he was like sleeping in different houses.

And for some reason, he was afraid of her.

So some people think she might have.

We'll end it off on this.

Astral projection.

Ooh.

One of my favorite topics.

Have you experienced it yet?

And what have you studied about it?

Yes, I have experienced it involuntarily.

Involuntarily experienced it back when I was 13 and 16.

I was reading the Emerald Tablets of Toth at 13 years old.

Wow.

That's a young age to be reading that.

Yeah, I'm telling you, man, I've always been into this stuff.

And for those who don't know,

people in the spiritual space tend to claim that the emerald tablets of tooth

were written by the egyptian god toth yeah tehuti

and sure maybe but the truth is the emerald tablets of tooth the book that we have was actually written by a guy named by um maurice d'orial

who was a really strange dude and i have a video on him too And he was just like an occultic

fanatist.

And he claims that he got this book from some pyramid in Mexico and was given permission to translate it by some Tibetan monks.

But he was kind of a known,

I don't want to say con artist, but kind of like

salesman, you know, kind of like a known salesman.

Like he came up with a lot of weird fanatical ideas.

Yeah.

And this was just like the most successful one that he had.

But

nonetheless, he channeled or deciphered the Emerald Tablets of Toth.

And even if they are fake, they're still like a fascinating read that still does something to you when you read them.

Wow.

And so I read them at 13 years old.

And in the book, it teaches you how to astral project.

Oh, it does?

Pretty much, yeah.

And like how to fight off demons and stuff like that and summon them if you want to.

And so I go to sleep the first night of reading that.

And I wake up

to go to the bathroom, or so I thought.

I get up to go to the bathroom, and suddenly I start falling to the floor slowly as if I was in water.

And so I thought, well, I must be dreaming, right?

Oh, I guess I'm dreaming.

I just kind of laid there on the floor of my bedroom for a little bit.

And then I went back to my body, woke up again, or so I thought.

I was like, all right, let's go to the bathroom.

Same thing happened.

I just kind of slowly floated to the ground.

And I was like, all right, okay, I guess I'm dreaming again.

Third time, I finally wake up.

Time kind of speeds up.

There isn't like this density anymore.

I'm like, oh, that was a weird dream.

All right.

Went to the bathroom, did the thing, went back to to sleep.

Didn't think much of it.

I didn't know that I had astral projected at that time.

Yeah.

Until three years later, I'm about 16 years old.

I'm on house arrest for some dumb stuff that I did.

And so

I spent most of that summer being on house arrest, just getting back into my studies, reading stuff, getting back into the Emerald tablets.

Same thing.

I go back to sleep and I have an astral projection experience.

But this time I know what it is.

I know that I'm having one.

So I wake up, I'm in my spirit body, and I instantly know, oh, heck yes, I'm astral protecting.

But I regrettably did not turn around to look at my body.

But I did look around my room, and I left my room, went through my door, and I go to the hallway, and I'm instantly faced with like this dark, energetic being.

Oh, wow.

This negative energetic being.

Demon.

If you want to call it that, sure, right?

And so I see it, and it doesn't have a face or anything.

It's just this negative, energetic being.

It's just darkness.

And at first, I'm struck with fear.

But the American tablets, again, teach you how to vanquish these things.

And I have a video breakdown on that too.

And it's just as quick as I was struck with fear,

there was this like laser beam or something like

shot from me.

to the book that was on my shelf and back to me as if like the information downloaded wow and was like yo remember like the technique and so basically i just became light and like shot light at this thing and it just was vanquished.

Dang.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's sick.

Right.

And so I went back to my body after that.

And I'm a natural skeptic.

So I was like, there's no way that was real.

You know what I mean?

That wasn't real.

Like that must have been a dream.

Yeah.

But what made it real for me was the next morning, my mom took me out to get some food.

And before.

All the haters say, how can you go get food if you're on house arrest?

Because I saw somebody say that one time.

When you're on house arrest you can only go places with your parents duh so i had to call my po like i would have to call them like i'm leaving between this hour and that hour

gold bracelet uh no this luckily no i had like a weirder program where this guy would come and show up at my house randomly oh that's weird yeah and i would also get random folk phone calls yeah and it would it would be like this automated thing before ai

and it would like repeat these numbers and i would have to repeat the numbers back at it it would be like nine eight seven whatever like random numbers and i would have to repeat it.

Can't you do that anywhere, though?

I mean, today it's probably all different.

Like back then, it was like rudimentary technology.

It was so lame because it would never recognize my voice.

You'd be like, this is not Eduardo.

I'm like, yes, it is, man.

It's me.

Nine, eight, seven.

Like, it was so frustrating.

And the guy, it was funny, like, whenever I would fail it, he would have to show up.

But he knew.

He's like,

I know it's not you, man.

That's stupid machine.

So if AI is good for anything, please update that.

Well, now they have the ankle monitor.

Oh, the ankle monitor, yeah.

But so, yeah, I go out to breakfast with my, with my mom, and she's like asking me, you know, are you okay?

How are you doing right now?

Yeah, I'm like, I'm fine, I'm good.

I didn't even tell her about the experience.

And she's like, are you sure you're doing all right?

Because last night I passed by your room, and I felt such a dark presence that I had to stop and pray for you.

Whoa.

Yeah.

And that's not very like typical of her to say.

Yeah, I don't believe in coincidences.

Yeah.

So when she said that,

I got the chills and I was just like, like, oh, that's weird.

Yeah, I know.

Everything's good.

I didn't want to tell her because I didn't want to freak her out.

That's crazy.

Who do you think that entity was that you vanquished?

You know,

I didn't really know what to think about it until recently.

I think it was just a test.

Oh, wow.

I think it was a test from whoever, from Toth, I don't know, from the gods.

It was just a test to see if I had actually learned

what I was.

That's cool.

It's something I

want to experience one day.

Yeah, yeah.

There's a lot of cool techniques that you can practice.

There's a guy by the name of

Robert Monroe.

Have you heard of him?

No.

So Robert Monroe used to be a radio broadcaster, turned mystic.

He realized that there was some interesting

experiences that could be created

through the manipulation of frequencies.

You realize that the brain has two hemispheres, right?

We have the left and the the right hemisphere, and they work for different reasons.

They don't work harmoniously most of the time.

But if you can get them to work harmoniously, to vibrate harmoniously, you can induce astral projection.

You can induce lucid dreaming and probably some other altered states of consciousness.

And this is what the mystics have always been doing through kundalini and through meditation is calming the mind, calming the systems, and getting everything to work harmoniously.

And so the left and right hemispheres, they work for different reasons.

But through

binaural beat

I used to listen to those.

Yeah, so through binaural beat healing, through sound healing, you can induce astral projection.

Wow, I need to start again then.

Yeah, I used to listen to those in high school.

I astral projected once on accident.

Oh, no, what?

So that makes sense why it happened.

How was that?

I didn't know.

I thought it was a dream, like your first time.

So I was flying just in the air, dude.

It was sick, but I didn't know it was astral projection.

Yeah, and he has an institute to this day, the Robert Monroe Institute in Colorado.

I'm going to check that out, man.

Dude, you can go over there and they'll teach you how to do it.

Eddie, it's been a pleasure.

I could talk to you for hours, dude.

We'll have to do a part two.

Yeah, man.

Anything you want to close off with or promote?

Oh, dude, absolutely.

Yeah.

You can find me on IG at Esoteric Eddie.

And you can find me on YouTube at esotericed TV.

I'm always working on stuff.

I've got three books, a bunch of documentaries.

You can find all of it on esotericeddy.com.

Perfect.

We'll link it in the video.

Thanks for coming on, man.

Thank you.

Thanks for watching, guys.

See you tomorrow.

Peace.