Fixing Your Bedroom Life I Jackson Hightower DSH #454

33m
Jackson Hightower comes to the show to talk about the topic of fixing bedroom life

APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://forms.gle/D2cLkWfJx46pDK1MA
BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: Jenna@DigitalSocialHour.com

SPONSORS:
Deposyt Payment Processing: https://www.deposyt.com/seankelly

LISTEN ON:
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759
Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Listen and follow along

Transcript

ED was used to be something that guys in their 40s, 50s, and 60s would get.

It's like trending downwards.

30 guys in their 30s, guys in their 20s.

The stats are pretty crazy.

30% of guys in their 20s are having some sort of ED issue at some point.

And then it sort of scales up 10% per every decade after that.

Wherever you guys are watching this show, I would truly appreciate it if you follow or subscribe.

It helps a lot with the algorithm.

It helps us get bigger and better guests.

And it helps us grow the team.

Truly means a lot.

Thank you guys for supporting and here's the episode.

All right guys, you got Jackson Hightower here today.

Very powerful message for guys out there, man.

There's a lot of people struggling in their sex lives.

So thanks for coming on to educate.

It's my pleasure to be here.

Thanks for having me.

Yeah, dude, how'd you get started in this journey?

Oh, 15 years ago or so, I started studying the erotic arts, tantra, Taoism.

I had some pretty challenging experiences when I was younger as a result of never really being educated in the space.

You know, I would be intimate with women, had some challenging experiences, you know, premature

erectile dysfunction, not really knowing how to navigate a woman's body.

And so I kind of was introduced to David Data when I was 25.

And I just sort of, you know, went on that path.

He's one of the great sort of masters of like masculine, feminine polarity and dynamics.

And I I really just like went down the path pretty hard.

And I just, I'm a big learner.

I love to explore.

I love to experience.

And so I got into it and I started navigating this path on my personal life, kind of like didn't tell any of my friends.

Right.

That was outside of the professional stuff I was doing.

And

here I am now.

So

sex ed class in high school was a joke.

It is a joke.

Yeah.

I mean,

you know, teachers aren't really well equipped to discuss these types of topics.

You need some sort of specialized training or understanding or, you know, and so they're just giving you like the basics like here's how to put on a condom and you can have a child when you have sex without a condom.

But there's so much more nuance to it, you know,

and you know, I don't think they should really teach anything at school.

I think it should be taught outside of school or with some sort of apps or programs or things like that.

Because right now,

kids are being educated through by

right.

That's really where the education comes from, you know, and then that's a whole nother, you know, conversation.

Yeah.

But yeah, it's, it was a joke, you know.

Yeah, I feel like right now it's almost like a sex epidemic of just guys that are just struggling.

Even in their 20s, we were talking about.

Yeah.

So my DMs,

I would say 25% of them are guys in their 20s who are addicted to and have erectile dysfunction.

And so it's actually called induced erectile dysfunction.

ED was used to be something that guys in their 40s, 50s, and 60s would get.

much more common.

And now it's like trending downwards.

30 guys in their 30s, guys in their 20s.

The stats are pretty crazy.

Like you're looking at, you know, 30% 30% of guys in their 20s are having some sort of EED issue at some point.

Yeah.

Yeah, which is a lot.

And then it sort of scales up 10% per every decade after that.

And it's just astounding, you know, and so PIED, they call it, is, is like this new thing because of the prevalence of

just so easy to find and to navigate, you know.

So is it a mindset thing where they're getting turned on by certain videos?

And then when it comes to real life stuff, he just can't get it up.

Yeah.

So

creates this like non-real situation right which is it's a fantasy it's a movie it's shot with actors and they're you know performing etc and what happens is it

they've done a lot of studies and they say the sort of acts like a drug on your system so the dopamine reward response pathway dopamine is the thing that makes you happy right we go online we're getting you know dopamine hits from likes and follows so similarly when the guy's watching

and sort of like the the intense visceral nature of of the videos that are you know being created nowadays um before you know playboy is a static image right you're looking at just a picture of a beautiful woman naked well now it's much more than that obviously um

and so when a guy's like okay cool i want to be happy i want to feel get out of this like depression or slump or whatever it may be the body says what's the quickest path to pleasure and so they've been habituated to to watching the dopamine goes up up up up up But what happens is you need to keep getting that high and that novelty and the intensity gets higher and higher higher and higher and the novelty of the needs to get higher and higher and higher so you're looking from straight to you know maybe it's homosexual to three ways to gang bangs to all sorts of different kinds of it's much more intense faster quicker harder and the neuroplasticity in the brain is actually changing so video can really affect the neuroplasticity in a way that a static image really can't so the brain chemistry is actually changing.

And so when you're with a real partner, it's never as intense, right, as that, like hard, quick, quick, you know, fast stuff.

And so, you know, guys are watching, I think the average time is like 10 minutes worldwide, like they're watching it.

Guys in the U.S., it's actually like less.

I think it's like seven or eight minutes.

And so you're getting into this habit of like quick, you know, release and then, you know, this satiated feeling.

Well, that affects a lot of different things.

You know,

it makes you not want to necessarily, you know.

finds a partner, right?

You're getting on dating apps because it's easier.

Well, it's if I'm satisfied, right?

And I'm going three times a day.

well, why would you want to go out?

Well, you don't have the energy to go out.

You don't have the desire to go out because it's just sort of just like you're just dissipating.

You're raining you.

Totally raining you.

Totally.

Three a day is nuts.

Is that people doing that?

That is crazy.

Oh, yeah.

I've never done three a day.

Yeah.

I mean, three a day.

And some older guys who are my clients, it's three a day.

The guys in the 50s, 60s.

And so I think obviously the pandemic didn't help, right?

The pandemic, I think revenues in the industry went up like 25 to 40% after the pandemic.

You know, which is like everyone's at home.

It's like, what am I going to do?

And then guys post-pandemic, it's like, okay, well, I'm going three times a day.

They don't have the vitality anymore.

Like that's a, that's a really important energetic source, right, for your body.

You know, so, so, so, yeah, it's, it's wild.

It's a really interesting thing.

So that coupled with the testosterone epidemic right now.

Testosterone and then sperm counts.

You know, T levels, there's sort of conflicting studies on what's happening with guys' T levels.

Some say it's 20% over the the last 40 years.

Some say it's up to 40% on average.

There's obviously a problem, right?

What's happening?

And so the T,

T levels dropping plus, you know, the increase in

just the availability of it, right?

You can get it anywhere.

You know, it's a $100 billion industry.

In the U.S., I think it's like 15 billion

out of the whole world.

So the world is 100 billion.

U.S., it's 15 billion.

Yeah, that's nuts.

I mean, you know, 17 of the top 100 sites are sites.

And every,

this is a really cool, interesting.

So 35% of all downloads on the internet are no way yeah holy yeah so it's just like it's rampant you're like well how do you put the toothpaste back in the tube yeah you know it's it's it's challenging right and so it's like how do you educate guys more of like here's what's going to happen here here's what may happen as a result of this right and that's that's sort of where where I spend a lot of my time which is just like let's just you know look you're not going to close in a day that's not going to happen it's a big big titanic ship but you got to let people know here are some things that may happen as a result of what it is that you're doing.

So making smarter decisions.

You know, absolutely.

Yeah.

Do you feel like the way they're prescribing ED now with Viagra and Cialis is kind of not the way to go about it?

Yeah.

So I'm, I'm a, my motto is like as natural as possible for as long as possible.

Obviously, pharmaceutical drugs have their benefits at certain times.

What I'm seeing is the prevalence of

the younger guys is creating this induced ED, right?

And then companies like HIMS and Roman and all these other pharmaceutical distribution companies, because that's what they are, they're just hammering silenophil to tattophyll, generic forms of Viagra on younger guys.

And then what happens is, you know, younger guys like, oh, I have EDL, take Viagra.

Well,

the psychological dependency that you get once you start taking a Viagra-type product, I mean, you can't not take it.

I mean, what it does for you, if it's working, right?

You know, it doesn't work for everyone, but if it does work for you, like it's giving you a massive, um, you know,

embellished experience of what you're actually really capable of.

And so you're like, well, if you're with a girl and you're doing, you're taking Viagra and, you know, being intimate with her, and then you stop.

She's going to be like, what happened?

Right.

And so you get in this psychological state of like, I have to have this in order to perform.

And that's, it's super dangerous, super dangerous.

And so I, I'm always like, guys, like, you have to remember,

you know, there's no such thing as a silver bullet.

You have to make sure that like, there's a consequence to every action that you take.

And if you're going to take something that's going to give you a false sense of

capacity or skills, what's the downside of that?

A, you're going to have to take it for life.

B, there's a lot of physical side effects of it, but then the psychological side effect of like, well, what's going to happen if I don't have this with me?

Right.

And then I can just pop it.

So

I'm concerned about a lot of stuff that's happening.

And I think that these companies, because they're so well funded and they're making billions of dollars, they've done a really good job of decoupling.

You know, it's like, oh, it's a HIMS,

right?

Well, the bottle, have you seen a bottle of HIMS?

It just says HIMS, but it looks like a pharmaceutical bottle, but it doesn't have any of the other writing on it that you'd like to do.

You got to admit, their branding is

doing a tremendous job of decoupling the psychological stimulus.

Like, oh, it's a HIMS.

It's not a drug.

It's a HIMS.

Well, it's actually sildanafil tadafil.

I don't know how many guys know that those are just generic forms of Viagra.

Wow.

I didn't know that actually.

There you go.

I wonder what blue chew is.

It's a generic form of Viagra.

I see that all the time on podcast.

So, you know, that's what these companies are doing.

And they do a great job with marketing.

And, you know, that's their job.

And

obviously for certain people who need it, like, that's fine.

But I just am, you know, I wary and I caution guys.

I'm like, hey, there's going to be a negative side effect.

And you want to be really mindful about what that is and make the smartest decision possible with the most amount of information that you have.

Right.

Because there are, you know, creating an herbal V product, like,

no one's really done it yet, but like, there are ways that you can help your system and help the root, right?

Because Viagra is never healing the root issue.

If your issue is circulation or if your issue is the mental state and the addiction to the

you're watching, you're never healing what's going on with you.

So you're just sort of symptomatically, okay, I'll just take this.

And yeah, that's

dangerous.

Yeah, it's just, it's not, it's not a good way to live your life, but we're in this quick fix culture.

Right.

You know, it's scary.

Yeah.

So people with this PIED, this induced rectal dysfunction, when they cut the out, does that solve the problem or is it still there?

So the answer is yes.

And it, the amount that they've been entrained and habituated in their body for that period of time, like usually determines how long it takes them to get back onto a normal cycle.

Got it.

Sometimes it could be, you know, a couple months.

Sometimes it's a year.

Depends on how much, you know, they go.

Right.

I have guys like, hey, you know, I'm addicted to watching since I was 14.

I go three times a day and I'm 24.

I'm like, wow, that's crazy.

Think about the cumulative effects of that on your body.

So I can't tell you this is how long it's going to take, but I can say you have to start now and look forward, right?

And when you start now, it's like you also have to, you know, get your diet right.

You have to get your, you know, get off your ass and not have a sedentary lifestyle.

You know, if you're obese, you have to like lose fat, right?

Because that's going to help with testosterone.

And also doing other things, exercises and things like that, taking herbs that are going to help your internal system, you know, get, get to a place where you need them to be.

Yeah, it's a full approach.

It's not just one.

A holistic approach.

Absolutely.

It's not like a little silo where it's like, you can just focus on that.

You got to do, you got to do do everything.

Yeah.

Right.

Mental, physical, spiritual.

Absolutely.

I want to dive into the spiritual side.

You mentioned sexual energies earlier.

I'm actually a believer in that.

Yeah.

Because there's these people hooking up with new people every day.

I think that's kind of toxic to their body.

Yeah.

I mean, there's, you know, this belief that, like, you know, there's obviously karma.

You're exchanging DNA.

You're exchanging energies when you're intimate with someone, right?

You're literally like inside of a woman, right?

So

there's a lot to be said for that.

You know, you want to be mindful that you're not doing it frivolously.

You want to be mindful that you're doing with someone that you actually have a connection with.

Obviously, that's sort of like the most sort of enlightened path, right?

Which is like being really mindful.

You know, and there's also the path of like, you know, trying to learn and explore and trying to get to know how to navigate, you know, a partner.

But yeah, there is a lot to be said for the sacredness of sexuality.

And so, you know, obviously I've gone through my, you know, my 20s and my 30s.

I've had a lot of experiences.

And so then as you learn about some of the stuff I've learned from Taoism and Tantra, you start to have much more mindfulness about your sexual experiences.

And it actually became a lot more of no for me as I've gotten older.

Whereas when I was younger, you don't really know that sort of stuff.

I never learned about these things.

It's like, cool, let's go have fun.

But as you get older, it's like, okay, actually, let's, let's, what are we doing here?

Right.

And also making sure that the partner has agency in the decision-making process.

Right.

Um, so that you're both on the same page.

Yeah, I think we should change the narrative because as young guys, you're taught to just go out there, get your body count up, and you're cooler.

The cooler you are, the more bodies you have.

Right.

I think we should change it.

Yeah, I agree.

I believe that having experience that's consensual, that's respectful, where both partners are clear on your goals and what you're available for is really important.

If you're not available for a relationship and that's something that you need to communicate that at the beginning and allow the partner to have agency in the decision whether they want to engage or not.

And then also being much more mindful about

how many or

dating around or whatever it may be.

just being clear with your communication with people so that they have an awareness of what's going on because sometimes you know a guy be like oh I don't want anyone to know that I'm you know into dating three different you know women or whatever it is

we come to the age where it's like you got to be clear and up front with that sort of stuff right so and if they say no that's like that's you got to deal with it and then you got to focus on you know the the partners that you have that are interested in that absolutely you know um and more you know finding more celibacy but again that's tough as a young guy it's like you you want to go out and you want to like be intimate.

Sex is the most fun thing on the planet to do, in my opinion.

So it's like the hard little, you know, path you have to navigate.

One of your most viral clips was you said not to go out on a first date over dinner.

Yeah.

That's probably 80% of first dates.

I know.

I just, it's like, so, it's just played out.

Like, so, and obviously, like, this is my, my, my perspective, but I want to learn as much as I can about someone on the first date, right?

You can sit there and talk to somebody all day long and they're on their best behavior and whatever.

But if you're doing an activity or you're doing something that creates a bit of like a stressful situation to see how they react, right?

Or to see if my goal is like, I want to be with someone who's athletic and fun and can do things like that.

I want to see them in the situation so that they understand how they react to stress, how their bodies move, things like that.

So I just, I usually encourage guys, you know, yeah, you can always go out to dinner.

That's sort of easy, but it's just kind of played out, right?

So it's like, try to find something a little bit more creative to do where you learn more about the variables of what's important to you in a shorter period of time yeah and learning through their actions not necessarily what they're just talking about to you so you know i like that i like that it's just like a different little you know and also encouraging guys like yeah be more creative like you know go find something else to do that's fun right

um

so that's you know because i go i go to dinner date still of course but also like i'm i'm encouraging myself to say like okay let's do something different also to see how they react yeah are they interested in that they're just trying to get you know a meal whatever you you know what I mean?

Like, there's a lot of that.

Yeah, it's hard to move because if you'll know if you like someone pretty quick, I feel like.

Yeah.

So you could be on the main entree and you'll be like, I want to leave at this point.

Exactly.

You want dessert.

Exactly.

Going out of walks, doing activities, like finding something to do that's a little bit different

is always more fun.

It also adds like an element of like, oh, this guy's a bit creative, right?

A woman's like, oh, he's cool.

He's doing something slightly off, off, you know, off-piste, which is nice.

Yeah.

So,

so, yeah, I always tell guys, like, have a little bit more fun with it.

I feel that.

Um, all right.

So, do you believe men and women can be friends without any sexual attraction?

So, yeah, look, there's always the answer is yes.

Some of my best friends are women.

Are you interested in coming on the digital social hour podcast as a guest?

Well, click the application link below in the description of this video.

We are always looking for cool stories, cool entrepreneurs to talk to about business and life.

Click the application link below, and here's the episode, guys.

We've never been sexually intimate.

You never were physically attracted to them.

Nope.

And I've learned so much from them.

And, you know, I grew up an only child.

I didn't have any brothers or sisters.

And they were like sisters, right?

Where it's like, I learn, we grow, like, I get insight from them on how women are because women are complicated, beautiful, complex beings, right?

And so, what better, how are you going to learn from about women if you're only hanging out with guys?

True.

Can't.

Yeah.

So I spent a lot of my 20s really spending time.

I had great, you know, girlfriends who taught me a lot about how women women are.

And you get to have insights.

You get an entree into their lives in a way that isn't sexual.

I have had female friends who we were intimate when we started, and then we realized it wasn't the way to go.

And then we became friends.

Interesting.

Yeah.

So that's another, you know, something that also can happen too.

And they've become incredible,

you know, mentors and guides for me on sort of like how to be and approach and be with women.

So,

so yeah, I think it's totally possible.

And I think it's really healthy because we live in a world where it's like there's men and women, right?

If you don't know how to integrate with them in a way that makes sense, you know, we don't live in this culture where it's like the guys are going out and hunting and the women are in the village doing the community stuff.

Like, we live in a very integrated society.

So, I think that's the best way to do it.

Yeah.

I think you have that control over your biological sense, right?

Because as men, we are programmed to reproduce.

So, we are attracted to multiple girls.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We have have a biological imperative um and at the same time you know the decision to be intimate is always with woman right she has the final say that's true you know um so i think that if you have discipline you know in your own life now again off you have if you're in a partnership your your relationships with them may shift and change if you're married your relationships with those female women may shift and change but the reality is it's like it's good to have other um uh female influences in your life and i think for for women to have guys that are friends just so that they can can learn about men.

Same same thing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Have you ever experimented with like open relationships?

I've never done it.

Okay.

I

it doesn't really work for me.

All my relationships have been monogamous partnerships.

Yeah.

I think that it's sort of like this idealized world that you can, you know, again, open relationships was where like you're either in multi, but you're in a polyamorous relationship where you have multiple girlfriends and you are in a relationship with each of those women.

Then there's open, which is like you're in a relationship with one person, but maybe you're sexually intimate with someone else.

It's kind of just like, I don't know, what are you not getting from your partner, right?

Is there, is your partner a real match for you or not?

I think it's very rare to find something that really works because, you know, when you're intimate with someone, especially as a woman, there's a lot of emotions that get involved.

So for me, it doesn't work.

I don't know a ton of people who it works really well for.

I don't know any.

You have to communicate so well.

You have to be so so evolved.

You have to have boundaries and whatnot.

And I think

it's an exercise in how much you can handle, right?

Because if you're in an open relationship, then that woman may be also be sleeping with other men.

And

is that something that you want, right?

Especially if you're getting to the point where like, do you want to have children and family with this person?

To me, I'm not into that.

No, I'm not.

Especially at the energy transfer, too, because you don't know what kind of guy she's hooking up with.

And then you're inheriting that energy.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't think it could work yeah um do you have a lot of guys message you with insecurities yeah

like about their size size um a lot of guys have performance anxiety and again part of it's because you're being entrained in learning how to have sex from watching right and you know they recruit guys that are hung well yeah and it's like it's a movie right it's not a real i mean there's actors doing things and they're actually having sex but if you're learning that like oh that's what sex is supposed to be like and that's what my supposed to look like, then you're like, oh, 50% of guys have that's under average size.

You're like, well,

where does that leave half the guys in the world?

So that creates a lot of insecurities.

It creates a lot of lack of desire to go out and be intimate with women because either they don't have the size they want or they don't have the skills and the performance capacity that they see these guys in the movies having.

And so

that leads to them not even trying to be intimate.

It's like 60% of guys are don't even engage in sexual activity because of performance anxiety because they're afraid of the fact that like they may not be able to do what they want to do

up to yeah, so there's there's some interesting data around that, but a lot of guys are hurting.

A lot of guys are in pain.

Yeah, I mean, the biggest word that I get is like, I need help.

I need help.

I need help because they don't know where to turn.

And so, you know,

for whatever the issue is, there's kind of four main categories, right?

Like ED is one, premature is one.

and you know, size obviously is one, and then, you know, fertility is another area, but also the addiction to

is a huge one that I've gotten much more recently.

So kind of five main areas that,

you know, I focus on.

Wow.

But, but yeah, there's a lot of

men are in pain, I think, globally.

And they're ashamed to talk about it.

They don't have an outlet.

There's shame, there's guilt, there's embarrassment, right?

And whether there's religious, you know, things that are involved where, you know, a lot of religion suppresses sexuality and conversations about sex.

So,

yeah,

there's something that's happening now.

And my goal is just to bring light up to stuff and let's talk about it.

Let's get people into a different frame of reference.

If you can change one little thought pattern that a guy has about his experience with his own sexual energy,

that's going to create much more beneficial relationships with a partner.

How do you have a healthy connection to yourself?

If you're jagging off three times to f ⁇ and releasing and losing all that energy and power, then how are you going to take that into a partnership?

Right.

So, um, you know, it takes discipline, it takes drive, it takes effort, but I really believe that men have it in them.

We're just inundated with some of the stuff that's like, it's like, it's always, you know, grabbing at us.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, between OnlyFans and that blew up during the pandemic.

People just still never got over it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's sort of normalized.

It's really normalizing,

I think.

On Instagram, I get 50 messages a day for like

my spam.

Yeah.

And

so it's a fascinating world in this like quick dopamine hit.

And

yeah, I don't know where it's going to go.

It's scary, man.

It's really, it's alarming.

No, it is.

I discovered on accident.

I mean, that's how it should be, right?

Yeah.

You shouldn't be just blasted with it on social media.

Yeah.

You know, and you know, DMs and they're like, oh, check out this page.

And you click through and you go through to their OF and you're like, okay, well,

you know.

Yeah.

Yeah.

scary, dude.

And a lot of people can't last long, and they think because of videos that they need to last an hour.

So they bust in, like, like you said, like a minute.

Yeah, for sure.

So they're getting habituated to, you know, they find the video, they're doing their thing.

And then your body, you know, it's like muscle memory, right?

If you're habituating yourself to quick, intense release.

Well, you know, and the average watch time is 10 minutes globally.

In the US, it's like probably less than eight.

So it's like, how are you going to perform?

And, you know, like how you practice like you play.

You know, you take that by yourself into like game time situation scenario where you're with a woman and like the stakes may be a little bit higher.

You're either not going to get it up or you're going to go really quick.

You know, 25%

of men experience premature.

And then, you know, I think about, was it like 15 to 25% of men experience performance anxiety in some capacity?

That's 40% between those two alone.

And then ED on top of that, and you're like 20 and you know, 30%

roughly at between 20 and 30 years years old.

So, like, our odds are not in our favor.

Yeah, for like 70 percent.

And by the way, it takes a woman like 14 to 25 minutes in order to have really of like foreplay and sexual activity for the most part.

And these are sort of obviously averages and generalities, but like you put all these things in play and you take the woman needing much more time.

Well, where does that live?

This is like a huge gap.

Yeah, massively gap.

Do you get a lot of girls in your DMs complaining?

So, I've started to get more.

Obviously, my content was really geared towards men, but over the last, I would say, six months, I have a lot more women following and then sending DMs asking, you know, hey, I'm, you know, I need some advice or help about my partner.

How do I, you know, broach this with him?

And, you know, a lot of it is, how do I help him the best way, right?

How do I get this information to him so that he receives it well?

And

you know,

what I've learned is that, you know,

us men, like, we're very sensitive sensitive in that area.

Like that is our most sensitive area of focus.

It is our vital force.

It's where a lot of our value and our worth is tied.

It shouldn't necessarily be, but it kind of is.

And so, you know, when I, when I talk to women, I'm like, look, you know, you have to be incredibly compassionate.

You have to stroke their ego in that area and find something that they're good at and talk about that first and let them know that you appreciate how it is, you know, whatever it may be.

They may need to embellish.

I don't know.

Maybe the guy's not good at anything.

I'm not sure.

But you got to stroke the ego and let them know that like this is something they do well.

And then slowly integrate some of the other stuff and all the other videos that you, where you want them to encourage them to get better.

But like emasculating a guy about his size or his ability to last long, whatever it is, like you literally just shut him down for sure.

Totally denied.

Yeah, totally demoralized.

And it's painful and it's really hard to recover, you know?

You know, I'm sure there's guys out there who've ever been, been like, oh, like, you know, you're not big enough or you didn't last long enough.

Like, it just stays with you, right?

And it torments you and you can't get it out of your head, you know?

And so it takes a lot to be able to work through that.

Right.

And obviously it takes a lot of work, you know, and discipline on yourself of like, okay, well, how do I get better?

How do I get bigger?

How do I last longer?

And it's just like going to the gym.

You don't look at the mirror and magically build muscles.

You got to work.

You know, you got to put in the work.

You got to put in the time and the effort.

You know, doing exercises that seem weird, but like, guess what?

Like, it's effective.

Yeah.

You know, so

absolutely.

There's a lot of people right now in their 20s and 30s and 40s trying to have kids right now.

Yeah.

And they can't.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, sperm counts.

There was an Israeli study, I think, that they said, like, sperm counts have dropped 50% since 1972.

Wow.

Which is like, astounding.

Right.

And so you get into, well, how much of infertility is caused of men?

right?

And how much, everyone thinks it's the women's issue.

Well, it's not always the women's issue.

You know, I think three, like 30 or 40% of infertility cases are because it's the male problem.

And so, you know, the sperm counts are going down because the tea is going down.

Tea is responsible for healthy sperm, right?

We're not getting the right minerals in our diet, right?

Like zinc, boron, selenium, potassium, sodium, you know, from our diet.

We're eating food.

We used to get, you know, healthy minerals from food.

And since our soil is denatured, we're not getting that as readily anymore.

We have a sedentary lifestyle, which a lot of guys don't realize.

But if you're sitting down all day long,

you're nuts.

You're supposed to be, they're outside your body because they need to be cooler.

But if you're sitting in this position where your legs are tight around your body and around your nuts, you're just hot all the time.

So getting up, walking around, being moving, we used to be much more moving around in our culture and a society.

And so now, you know, that's an issue as well for sperm.

So there's just so many things that are happening all at the same time, right?

And you're like, wow, this is a real epidemic.

But like, nobody's talking about it.

No one.

Like, sperm, T, like infertility, like size, ED, all this stuff, you're like, wow.

Yeah.

So

it's a big problem to tackle.

Huge problem to tackle.

And it sounds like microplastics and this estrogen being everywhere is also contributing to that.

Oh, my God.

So it's like it's death of a thousand cuts, right?

So these chemicals are introduced in the United States.

They're never,

you don't have to do any testing on them, right?

Like atrazine, for instance, right?

It's a crop that's sprayed on all non-organic crops all around the world.

You know, atrazine is a known estrogenic, like endocrine disrupting factor, which means it has phytoestrogen in its chemical composition.

The phytoestrogen gets into your body through food, through water, and then it actually acts like estrogen.

So as a guy, estrogen is important, but not at the levels that we have it in our body.

And so you have,

it basically like caps your your in the simplest way is like it just inhibits your body's ability to naturally produce testosterone um which is scary and it's stored in fat it's hydrophobic which means afraid of water so it stays in your fat cells and you know if you're that means that the best way to naturally reduce your test or increase your testosterone is actually to lose fat because the estrogen is stored in the fat.

So if you lose that, then you have less estrogen in your body.

But it's atrazine, it's plastics, it's fragrances, it's, you know, sunscreen, it's mycotoxins, it's phytoestrogen, you know,

mycotoxins and like mold, like coffee and grains and cereal.

You've got things in like,

what's it called,

fungus.

You know, it's really,

it's everywhere.

Everywhere.

You know, fragrances, plastics, anything that comes in sort of plastic packaging, it's like, it all has plastic in it.

Crazy.

And they all are, you know, over the past 40 years, it's this proliferation in our society of all these substances with no regulation.

So the United States is the only country that doesn't really regulate anything.

Europe has really good regulations on these things because they're a little bit more evolved and they're less capitalistic than we are, I would say.

And even China regulates some of these chemicals, which to me was like astounding.

It doesn't make any sense.

I didn't expect that.

Yeah, so the United States has literally zero regulation on any of this stuff.

And so, you know, a lot of these things have been known to cause gonadal changes, hormonal changes in small animals and fish.

And so it's like, you have to extrapolate that over a human body, right?

It just takes longer, but it has the same effects.

Right.

And so then you get men with much more estrogen in their system.

Well, how does that affect their behaviors, their actions, the way that they are in the world?

Men are like testosterone is the hormone that makes men men also makes them healthy and virile, helps their immune systems.

So testosterone isn't the enemy.

Men need testosterone, but it's being decimated.

And so as it's being decimated by phytoestrogen,

our culture and our society shifts and changes.

You know, and we hear about this stuff like men aren't the way they used to be anymore, right?

Well, it's because their hormones are different.

So you can't necessarily blame them for it, right?

They're getting inundated with feminine chemicals, feminine hormones.

So, you know, you, so you, you do the math, like, how does that affect our world, right?

And so it's, it's a, it's a pretty crazy topic of conversation when you really go meta on it.

It is.

You know.

Yeah.

Thanks for bringing light to this, man.

Anything else you want to close off with or promote?

Let's see.

Yeah, I mean, you know, I would say, guys, like being really mindful of the decisions that you make,

taking a close account into the effects that it's having on you, like getting off the phones, going out in the world, going and talking to women in real life, like getting some, you know, huevos and being like, cool.

The worst thing she can do is say no, right?

But like having a genuine, honest approach is really important.

And don't give up on yourselves, right?

If you have problems or whatever, like call it out.

Be like, hey, I want to work on this.

Find someone to work with you, coach you, etc.

Find great influencers who have great, you know,

things to say and share.

Learn, read, focus on yourself, but don't go in that path of like red pill, blue pill, black pill,

where you disengage from society.

We don't want that.

We want you to like engage in society in a healthy way.

Love it.

Thanks for coming on, man.

Very educational.

Yep.

Thanks for watching, guys.

Hopefully you learned something.

We'll link Jackson's IG below if you want to reach out to him.

Otherwise, see you next time.