Getting Fat On Purpose, Only Eating Raw Meat and Making $45M From Crypto I Gavin Mayo DSH #411

My my thought is the USA they run the world.

They're not going to give their one superpower up, which is the US dollar.

Oil is not going to settle in Bitcoin.

The social security payments that this grandma is going to get is not going to settle in Bitcoin.

So then what is Bitcoin going to be used for?

It's just all manipulation right now.

They're going to start to gain control of it and then it's going to be manipulated and it's not going to move at all.

So

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algorithm it helps us get bigger and better guests and it helps us grow the team truly means a lot thank you guys for supporting and here's the episode all right we are here with gavin mayo today i met you in the crypto space man you've done a lot of interesting stuff yeah it's been a while i think probably known each other for almost three years now before we even have this podcast but yeah glad to be here thanks for having me i feel like we caught that last bull run together we made some good money and oh yeah got closer when you made money with someone i feel like you develop a bond there yeah it was it's it's crazy too because there were a few kind of big players in that space everyone kind of knew each other at the time and then everyone was just making so much money and uh yeah i think back to those good old gold basically 2021 all of 2021 was just for everyone was crazy now it looks like it might happen again but you have an interesting take on bitcoin do you predict that bitcoin might drop to zero

yeah so

I actually think that Bitcoin will move in opposite cycles after this cycle.

So I've always told people I do think we'll probably hit 100K, maybe 150K.

It really just depends what the stock market does.

Because remember, crypto is based off US dollar money printing and tenure yields.

It's not based off of if this ETF is getting approved, if people want to do this.

But the thing I tell people is, what does Bitcoin actually do?

What is it?

I don't know, maybe digital gold at best, but gold's been around for centuries.

Bitcoin's been around for 15 years while we've been printing money and rates have been at zero.

So let's see Bitcoin survive when rates are, I don't know, 3%, 4%,

no money printing, we're in a depression.

What does Bitcoin do then?

It's just a speculative asset.

So that's kind of what I tell people.

And for Bitcoin to actually survive and be widely adopted, like some of these Bitcoin Maxis thing, do you really think the US dollar is going to

stop being around?

My thought is the USA, they run the world.

They're not going to give their one superpower up, which is the US dollar.

Oil is not going to settle in Bitcoin.

The social security payments that this grandma is going to get is not going to settle in Bitcoin.

You're not going to buy milk with Bitcoin.

So then what is Bitcoin going to be used for?

What, to scam other people or, I don't know, pump it up to the moon?

And it's just all manipulation right now, especially with this ETF getting approved.

Everyone's bullish.

I'm actually bearish because what's going to happen?

It's going to be just like silver in the 1800s.

Yeah.

They're going to start to gain control of it and then it's going to be manipulated and it's not going to move at all.

So they're just buying the news.

Yeah, I mean,

the ETF is, the news is bullish, I guess.

That's why we're pumping right now and probably one last blow off top.

I mean, we see it in the stock market too, but I'm not too bullish.

And I'm probably one of the only people that will say this about Bitcoin.

They say that, yeah, crypto is the future.

I think it's a scam.

It's all just, and I'm in crypto too.

I'm one of those guys.

I have like most of my net worth in crypto.

I trade crypto every day, but I'm also smart enough to know that when the time comes and I think it's time to get out, I don't care.

Bitcoin can go to $10 million.

Once I'm out, I'm out.

I'd rather just have nice, tax-free wealth, buy some real estate and chill out.

I don't need to gamble my portfolio on Bitcoin.

And most people that have actual money, we're talking 100 million plus, they don't put their money in Bitcoin.

Maybe two, three percent that they make from bond yields, they put it in crypto or a speculative asset.

Yeah, but most people are not, even with this ETF, everyone's like, Yeah, but now all the big players are going to put in.

They're not.

No,

it's just to rake in fees from D-Gens.

That's basically it.

That's what the hedge funds are thinking.

Absolutely.

So I know you became a millionaire in your teenage years.

Was that from crypto?

Actually, not really.

So I became a millionaire when I was 19, right before I turned 20, literally three.

I've always always said before I turned 20, I wanted to be a millionaire.

And I think three days before I was in LA for my birthday trip is the first time I ever kind of left my hometown other than college.

And that's where I ended up staying.

So yeah, it was like three days before crypto did have a little bit to do with it because this is when shit coins were going crazy.

So I was killing it there.

And yeah, for the most part, it was my first ever business that I ran with my business partner.

It was like a subscription-based subscription-based Discord thing where you were just teaching people about stocks.

It was like 25 bucks a month.

And yeah, it was mainly from that.

And then after that, everything just went pretty crazy.

Nice.

So are you still heavy in stocks or did you realize a lot of them are kind of manipulated?

I don't care about manipulation.

I actually like manipulation.

I mean, I don't care if something's a scam either.

I'll still make money off of it.

Everything in life is a scam.

Your job is to...

figure out how to monetize off of it and just be done with it.

So I don't care if something is a scam or even like all these Ponzi that are created, I'll get in a Ponzi, but I'm going to get out before everybody else.

But yeah, so I still trade, I trade equities, I trade commodities, I trade shit coins, I trade crypto, whatever I think looks good, I'll trade.

So I'm actually pretty heavy into stocks.

I have a pretty big portfolio and I do options on SPY, QQQ, and VIX.

Okay.

Yeah, I think there's certain people that do have an edge, whether it's analyzing charts or just information.

And you seem to be one of those guys.

Yeah, it's not like gambling.

Like we're in Vegas right now.

It's not like gambling where some people say they're good at gambling.

Yes, you can be better if you do better better math but for the most part trading is based off of and to be honest gambling is too based off of your portfolio value so if you have 500k you probably can do a lot better than someone with 5k because if you're wrong and you put all your 5k into a position then damn but if you're only 5k into a position and you're wrong you can just dca 15k the next time 40k the next time you're eventually you're going to be right stocks just unless we're in a great depression they don't just keep dipping stocks are quite easy Now,

crypto, maybe it's a little bit harder because there's so much manipulation.

Sometimes you'll, you know, you could be shorting it and they think it'd be up 10% the next day.

You're just completely wrecked.

So you got to be careful with crypto.

I don't believe in Forex.

I think anybody that says they make money in Forex is lying.

No one makes money in Forex unless they're getting people in their broker because there's no rhyme or reason to the market.

So I stay away from Forex unless it's like a long position.

And yeah, I like commodities as well.

But yeah, my bread and butter, I would say, is shit coins right now because no one smart trades them.

They're just all

trade DJN, and you turned $100 into $1.5 million with shit coins, right?

Yeah,

back when you would just throw a dart at the wall and it'd go to the moon, but that doesn't happen anymore.

Now

I actually go for, I trade shit coins like I would trade equities.

I'm like, in, I go, I find large cap shit coins,

I don't know, one to two mil liquidity.

You can chuck like 30 ETH at.

I buy when they're red, when it's completely nuked, everyone's selling for losses.

That's when I start to buy.

If it keeps going down, I keep DCAing.

With ETH, Solana's is a little bit different with eth those things are going to bounce so i mean i'll chuck 30 eth at it i go for 10 30 them out it's like 9k you know what more do i need than that so sometimes i'll even throw if it's huge liquidity i could throw 50 to 100 eth at it and come out with i go for like 10 30 i'm not trying to hold it for a 10x yeah that could be great but that's just gambling you know it will bounce i'm just getting in at the bottom getting out for small profits no one trades like that and i'll i'll make hundreds of transactions a day sometimes i'll even find small caps things with like 30k liquidity put 0.2 eth ETH, sell for 0.25.

You do that a bunch of times.

I mean, 0.05 ETH, I mean, it's 100, 200 bucks, but like just over and over and over, there's just opportunities all day in shit coins.

Yeah.

Everyone wants to buy and just hold them to the moon.

Everyone, dude.

I mean, I've made that mistake, to be honest, but which shit coins did you catch?

Did you catch Pepe?

Yeah, actually, I was in Pepe at block zero.

Wow.

And I did the math.

So I bought, I think, 0.5 ETH and it would have been worth, I think it was like 750 ETH at the top.

Jeez.

Obviously sold.

I'm not, I

during that time after Pepe, what I actually started doing, and I don't do this anymore because volume isn't enough, but I started just, you know, sniping.

If anybody's not familiar with sniping, you're just basically buying a shit coin at blocks to go use some type of software to get in before everyone.

It's like a bot.

It's just gets, you know, you buy like 0.05, whatever.

And if the thing goes up 100, 200, 300x, you make a ton of money.

But I just started sniping everything in the month of May, just 0.02 into like everything.

And I would just have a a roll I'd hold for three days and I would just

99% of them would be rugs but the one you get like a thousand X on so you're like 0.05 ETH would be worth like 50 and then it'd make back all the other losses plus more wow so I sniped Hmong I was like this one of the top holders in Hmong I sniped so many so many coins during May and I made a good amount that was a super profitable strategy I wouldn't do that anymore right now but Jared from Subway did that right Yeah, I mean, Jared from Subway is just, I have a Mev bot too, but I can only make like one to two ETH a week on it.

It's not like Jared's where he can make one to two ETH per coin.

It's just, it catches people that with really low gas and just, they get screwed.

But yeah, Jared from Subway, he snipes, but he also is a sandwich bot.

Like, I see him in every coin all day long.

He probably makes four to five ETH per big coin launch.

There's like a few a day.

Like, I think the guy makes, I don't know, 582 a mil a week.

If shit coins come back and we're in an actual bull market, he'll make like.

probably three to four mil a week.

Straight money printer.

How is he able to do it and no one else?

Well, he's, it's not even, it's probably not even him.

It's just just a software that he built.

It's a bot.

He's probably doing it on auto.

Like, he's not sitting there and clicking all day long.

He has a bot that is just front-running people.

Wow.

So, people, I have to use MevBlocker on all my wallets, or you'll get, you'll get jared from Subway.

You'll get screwed.

The one time I forgot to turn it on, and I was on a new wallet.

And next thing I know, I got like, I got

mev for like 0.4 ETH.

It's just annoying.

Happens to people all day long.

But yeah, he's able to do it.

I mean, if I knew, I would build my own, but some type of software.

Yeah, Yeah, that's interesting.

I want to get into some of the health hacks you do.

You do some interesting stuff.

Yeah,

it's a bit weird.

A lot of people aren't really into it, but

it's opening up, though.

I think before it was super weird, and it still is weird, but you know, people are opening up from what I see.

I mean, yeah, people are opening up to the whole thing.

I mean, we can talk about what I do in a minute, but people are opening up to the whole carnivore thing.

But what I do is a step above that.

And yeah, just some of the things I do is weird, I guess.

so you only eat raw meat right yeah for the most part like 99% of the time sometimes if I don't have food I which I usually do like I literally even on the way to not Vegas I went to Aspen a week ago I carry a doctor's note to be able to bring my food on planes but I don't want to get it scanned because you put through a scanner radiation it's like super autistic stuff but

yeah I mean I have to bring my food everywhere I'm trying to gain weight right now so I mean I don't know since the last time I saw you it was probably like two years ago in Vegas or a year ago and I've gained 65 pounds since then.

But I don't even look fat right now.

Like, that's because I'm eating raw meat.

Viral fat molecules are much smaller than if I was eating McDonald's.

I'd probably look fat right now, gaining 65 pounds.

But I think it's been about three months where I started to just, I wake up in the middle of the night.

I literally drink a milkshake because I'm eating all day, every day, stuffing myself.

So right now I'm trying to get...

I still got like another 60, 70 pounds to go for my.

How are you trying to get?

I probably want to weigh 270, 280.

Jeez.

Why so much?

6'4,

6'5 ⁇ .

So, I mean, I won't look terrible, terrible.

I might look a little bit fat.

Maybe it'll start coming through my face.

But yeah, it's a common misconception that being fat is bad for you.

That's what I'm, I'm probably one of the only people to say this.

People think I'm crazy, but everyone's like, oh, if you're fat, you're unhealthy.

And this started in, I don't know, the 1960s, 70s, where like people started having body dysmorphia, and then the whole bodybuilding thing came on, and you should be super low-fat.

But in reality, it just makes people crazy.

I mean, mean, that's why you see all these

people doing drugs and crime and stuff.

A lot of people say it's because they're raised, but in reality, it's the diet they eat.

It's humans are not meant to be eating fast food all day and McDonald's.

And again, fat is good for you.

Even bad fat is better for you than no fat.

That's like the craziest thing to think about.

But yeah, I'm trying to get as fat as possible right now.

What is fat?

It's technically a nutrient in the body.

If you're eating good foods to get that fat, it's good.

How do you soak up toxins?

Through fat.

So if you have a good amount of excess fat, you don't have to be fat year-round.

It's almost like you're a bear.

You can shed it off, gain 20 pounds, lose 20 pounds.

Maybe in the summer you're lighter.

But for the most part, I'm trying to get up to a super high body fat.

And again, I won't look like that because I'm eating healthy foods.

I maybe look a little bit fat.

But yeah, I'm trying to get up to a super high body fat and then just sit there for about six months to a year.

get as healthy as possible and then start to kind of lose it and when you lose it that's when you feel like amazing because your body's just running off basically those fat fuels.

You don't have to eat any carbs, you don't have to eat anything.

You're just eating less calories per day, and you just feel amazing.

But since I've become fatur, I feel amazing.

I mean,

I feel so much more calm now.

I have amazing sleep.

I didn't really have bad sleep before, but yeah, just everything.

I've never had digestive issues anymore.

I used to be lactose intolerant.

Now I drink a gallon of milk a day.

Drink a gallon of milk a day?

Probably like maybe half a gallon, maybe three-fourths.

Is it raw milk or red?

Yeah, yeah.

I get all my food from an Amish farm in Pennsylvania.

Wow.

For the most part, sometimes if I go out to eat, which people are like, how do you go to restaurants?

It's actually pretty easy because most of the times they'll give me a raw steak.

Or if I go for sushi, it's the same thing.

Like, I have a place I go in Miami.

They know me.

They give me a raw steak, raw chicken, raw fish, whatever I want.

Have you ever gotten sick from eating raw meat?

No, and again, it's a, you know, people talk about conventional thinking, how it's wrong, how the whole everything you've been taught is a lie since birth.

It's the same thing with diet.

it's the same thing that why would it be bad to eat raw food as an animal we're animals right so why can a dog eat raw meat or why can a i don't know any animal meet raw meat but when we have raw meat it somehow can make you sick people get sick and then they blame the raw meat when it could be in reality something completely different maybe their body is just

and again i don't believe in germ theory either i don't believe that you could cough at me right now and that I get sick and I contract a cold from you.

You can't contract a virus.

It's not alive.

So

that's the whole thinking of the whole thing.

It's almost like a logic thing.

Why?

What is raw meat?

Well, what is on it?

Bacteria?

But isn't those bacteria and enzymes?

That's what helps you digest the food.

Anybody that eats raw meat, you can ask them to.

They could eat it for months, months, feel amazing.

The second they have cooked food, they feel tired and bloated.

So why is that?

It's probably because it takes longer to digest.

It's harder.

You cook a steak.

It probably takes

a long time probably more than half the time they digest and it's raw.

And you feel so much lighter after after, too.

So, I mean, some people can't get past the raw food, but let's just say you don't want to eat raw steak or raw chicken.

Just have some, if you like sushi, have some sushi, drink some raw milk.

Have, you know, that's my diet is basically just raw meat, butter, milk, a lot of dairy, eat a lot of cheese, unsalted.

And

yeah, it's basically it.

Just a little bit of fruit.

I have fruit like once a week, maybe once every couple days.

Yeah.

Vegetable juice, just celery and carrot, and that's basically it.

It's a diet predicated on

a guy named Arginus Von der Planets.

He died back in 2013.

He fell off his balcony, but he was curing a lot of people of cancer and a lot of different diseases.

Wow.

Just through diet?

Just through diet, nothing else.

He never...

And I mean, I think he had, I don't know, like 98, 99% success rate.

He probably cured like 350 people.

And of the seven that he didn't cure, they didn't do what he said, or they were extremely skinny, and they were just so far gone that he just couldn't do anything.

Wow, that is interesting.

Yeah, you got to try out the raw milk.

You also bathe in milk, right?

Yeah, so the whole bathing, again, it's part of the diet.

I pour milk, apple cider vinegar, salt,

what else?

Clay and coconut cream in a bath.

Just a bunch of different stuff to neutralize tap water.

Tap water's got so much random in it.

Ideally, you want to go to a hot spring, but if you don't have that, bath is fine.

And how do you,

how does toxins get out of the body?

It perspires through the skin.

So when you bathe, you are releasing those toxins.

Like if you get out of the bath after an hour-long bath, you wipe your skin and stuff.

That's all like sweat and toxins just on your skin.

That's how you get that out.

All those plastics and seed oils that you've eaten your entire life, it builds up in your lymphatic system.

So the only way to melt those is to get your body above 100 degrees, or I think like 104 is where I set the bath at.

So you're basically forcing a fever.

You're melting all that.

You might feel sick after your first one because you're literally dumping all these poisons back into your body to get expelled but yeah I mean that the quickest way to become healthy is baths no one really does it I do hot tubs a lot is that the same effect or not I mean does your hot tub have chlorine probably I mean if it's tap even if it's tap water like it is it has chlorine so all you're doing is sweating and then chlorine is getting back into the skin and just

so it's kind of I I wouldn't do it in a hot tub.

I wouldn't really ever sit in chlorine or even bait.

I don't even take showers.

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all right so i take hot tubs is that as effective as taking a bath i mean

what is in a hot tub is it tap water yeah

If it's tap water, then there's probably chlorine and there's probably chlorine in your hot tub too.

Most hot tubs have it.

So bathing in that is definitely not good.

That's why, I mean, if you can, dump some apple cider vinegar, some milk, whatever to neutralize some of that stuff.

Which type of milk?

Raw milk?

Yeah.

Yeah, that's another thing.

A lot of people, they'll go to the store and they'll pick up a gallon of milk, but it's pasteurized.

What's pasteurized?

They heat it to, I don't know, 140, 50.

They're just killing all of the bacteria, exactly what you need for the raw milk to be effective.

So

it's pretty hard to get unpasteurized milk.

The only place I know you can get in America that not from a farm is at Irwan in L.A.

And they charge you like 20 bucks, probably.

Yeah, yeah, but yeah, Raw Farms is good.

I don't think it's as good as the Amish Farms, but yeah, I get all my stuff from an Amish farm in Pennsylvania.

Now, you don't take showers.

Do you get complaints that you smell bad?

No, not really ever.

I mean,

if I need to bathe, I go to the ocean every day.

I like going to the ocean, sitting in the sand, whatever.

Usually I'm in Miami, but it's not like I...

I've probably taken a shower.

I don't know.

I mean, I took one this morning because I'm in Vegas.

I try not to because I want tap water touching my skin, but for the most part, just baths and the ocean.

A lot of people, they no one talks about the bath stuff, that's the easiest way to get insanely healthy.

And all the doctors will be like, Oh, this and that.

The only thing that it could harm is maybe if you want to have kids, probably don't want to take baths.

You probably it might make you a little bit infertile for a few weeks, but after you'll be fine.

But everyone does the saunas and the cold plunges, which are complete crap.

I don't know who created them or who, and same with the red light therapy.

All this stuff is just created for marketing.

People want to build saunas or steam rooms or red light therapy can fix you, whatever.

It's just, it's all.

I don't believe in the cold plunges or the saunas or anything.

Wow.

So why are baths so much better than showers?

Well, baths better than

cold plunges and saunas, you mean?

Yeah.

I guess, so a hot bath, you're actually able to perspire all those toxins on your skin.

A sauna, say it's, I don't even know how hot saunas are, but number one, it's going to be hot, bro.

They're like 160 to 180.

If you want to do that every day, it's going to damage your lungs.

It's going to damage your eyes.

You're also sweating, and then the sweat is staying on top of your skin.

So then it's going to perspire back into your skin.

It's just going to sit there.

All the toxins are going to be on there, and it's not going to actually be neutralized.

Like the bath, there's milk, there is apple cider.

The second that you're sweating out, it's instantly neutralized.

So you can sit in the bath for an hour or two.

You can't sit in the sauna, and it's not long enough to actually heat your body to that level.

And then cold plunges are a whole other thing.

People are like, oh, it increases testosterone and just do a cold plunge every day or a cold shower.

Total BS.

What produces testosterone?

How does your body make more testosterone?

Through nutrients.

So, how is getting in cold water going to make your body produce more testosterone?

So, that's a complete lie.

That's just logical thinking.

Second off, yes, you feel great after it, just like you feel great doing coke.

Because the second you step in that cold shower, you're in shock.

Your body goes into a fight or flight mode.

It's in shock.

But after you're like, oh, I feel like I had a cup of coffee, it's the same thing as drinking coffee.

It's not healthy at all.

It's not sustainable, and there's no benefits to it.

It's all complete crap.

Anybody that says, oh, it helps with circulation or whatever, there's nothing that can help more with circulation than a hot bath.

Cold, not good.

Hot, good.

That's all I'll say.

Now, I know you frequent nightclubs.

Are you a big party or a big drinker?

What's your take on drugs and alcohol?

Yeah, I actually don't frequent nightclubs anymore.

I mean, I try not to.

Sometimes my friends like to go out or some girls want to go out, sure.

I mean, I went for New Year's, but I'm sitting at the club.

I'm like, f ⁇ , wish I was like somewhere else right now.

I like nice dinners.

I like just chilling at home, but

I don't really ever drink.

I've never tried a drug in my life.

I smoke cigars.

That's about it.

If people like drugs, sure, maybe some people help them let go, but I don't see any net positive to doing drugs.

Let's say you don't like drugs.

So, okay, there's no point.

Let's say you like them.

That's not good either.

You don't want to get into drugs.

So that's one thing I've always kind of stood by.

I was never able to do drugs as a kid.

I would get drug tested anyway.

For what?

I was a swimmer.

So in college we were NCA drug tested and as a kid same thing because I was competing professionally.

Damn you were nice then.

Yeah I kind of got lucky in that in that front.

I was never even able to take them nor did I even have any

I didn't have any inclination to take them.

My parents don't drink ever.

They've never touched drug in their life either.

So I probably got it from them because they would act like weed is the same thing as crack.

And I kind of had that instilled in me.

I don't think that's the same now, but I wouldn't, I don't, I don't even want to try weed.

i don't want to try

whatever that

maybe when i'm 40 or 50 and i go through it maybe if i want to go through like a partying stage maybe i'll go do some some crazy but for the most part i'll drink like a couple times a year if i'm gonna drink i try to eat drink like organic wine that's the only thing i really drink i don't really drink anything else and uh sometimes sake but that's about it now do you buy this whole organic thing what's your take on organic produce yeah no it's it's true i mean if you want to go get organic strawberries versus regular strawberries they spray the regular strawberries with a bunch of BS.

You do not want to eat inorganic fruits.

I mean,

you could soak it in some water, put the water and test it and see how many chemicals are in it.

Organic is definitely better, but they still, they just, if you're getting your stuff from a supermarket, there's always going to be something or that it's hard to really do, but you always want to buy organic.

That is true.

It is more expensive for a reason because

who knows?

I guess they don't spray it.

It makes it harder.

Yeah.

Now, these Amish farms you order your food for, do they deliver?

Yeah, they deliver anywhere in the U.S.

Oh, wow.

If you're outside the U.S., you got to find other plugs.

Like, I have plugs all over.

I was in Bali.

I had a plug there.

I'm in Dubai.

I got a plug there.

I got a plug in.

I had some guy, paid some guy $150 to bring me a bunch of stuff in the Maldives when I landed at the airport.

Nice.

And in the U.S., while I'm traveling, even overseas, it works.

I just have this doctor's note where it says, like, if I don't eat every hour, I'll die.

And I just, I act like I'm crazy.

Like, I'm just begging the people.

I'm like, no, I have to bring it through or I'll get really sick.

They're like looking at the note.

It says, like, Gavin Mayo needs this.

And they're just like, this looks so fake.

But they have to bring in a bomb expert and everything.

But they always let me through.

They technically have to because I just like freak out.

Like, you have to basically go in with the fact that they're not taking my food.

They try to every time.

And I'm just like, that's excessive.

Same with water when you bring in water.

Yeah, I mean, I can't bring the milk, but everything else I can bring.

I bring in butter.

I bring in all raw meat.

I was just traveling for the past two weeks because the holidays.

So I had like a whole bag just full of food.

I'm just dumping it out.

And they're like, who the f f ⁇ is this guy?

We got to start flying private, man.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, like today I'm probably leaving Vegas.

I'll probably fly private back to LA.

But

yeah, I think flying private is pretty retarded, to be honest.

It's just such a waste of money.

Especially JSX is a good thing.

Yeah, JSX is basically private.

I mean, I'm only going back because

my friend has a plane here already, and he's a pilot.

He flies for fun.

So I might just go back.

So stuff like that's not bad, but I know what you mean when you're paying for the whole flight, like AD Gs to get to Miami from here.

Yeah, I used to fly private, not too much, but I've done the flight from LAX to Miami by myself for some reason.

Like it was just a really good week in business, and I did that, and I was like, why did I just spend, I think it was $35 or something.

Yeah.

And LA to Vegas, sure, it's still a waste of money because you could just spend 30 more minutes at the airport, just get clear, go through, don't pack a carry-on.

Yeah.

So, I don't know, flying private is a bit, I mean, I know billionaires that don't fly private private just because they can't be asked.

They don't care to,

they're frugal.

They don't want to spend 200K to go from LAX to Japan.

Yeah.

It just depends where.

Unless you own the jet, like Cardone, then it's not worth it.

Yeah, even if you own the jet, it's just so if you're flying every day or a couple times a week, then yeah, you should own a jet.

But, I mean, I travel for fun.

I'm not really traveling for business.

So I did the math.

I mean, I was in 25 countries this year.

Damn.

If I had a jet, I probably still would have been just about,

I probably would have still lost a little bit of money compared to just flying around.

I mean, business isn't bad, especially Emirates.

Like, I stayed in Dubai for a month or two this year.

I kept hopping in and out, and I'd always try to fly Emirates.

It's basically the same thing as private.

You literally, they have a separate line at the airport.

You go through the security, it takes about five minutes.

They like walk all your bags over, and then they literally just have a shuttle straight to the front of the plane.

You get on the plane, wait a few minutes, and it's off.

You're probably saving 20 minutes by flying private from Dubai.

There's no point.

I feel in the U.S., it gets a bit annoying, but yeah, for the most part, flying private is a waste of money.

I feel that.

Why are you traveling so much?

25 countries in one year is crazy.

Just felt like it.

I mean, I just didn't really have anything to attend to.

Obviously, I can do business anywhere in the world.

I wanted to meet a lot of people that were in different countries.

So I started the year last year in the Middle East, hit Egypt, Dubai.

Where did I go after that?

London, Tulum.

Stayed there for a few weeks.

Came back, Aspen for the winter obviously got a hit

back to I think back to the Middle East I went to Maldives Asia I was in for a month and a half Australia New Zealand basically just all over the place but it would be it would just be I'd get to a country if I liked it I'd stay I never stayed anywhere longer than three weeks and then at the end of the three weeks like the day before I'd be like where should I go next book the flight and you didn't have a return flight you just no pretty much never sometimes I had things planned like I went on a hunting trip to Africa.

So I had that planned from like a month and a half before.

But that's, I think, the most I planned in advance.

What were you hunting?

Small game.

So, I mean, we got giraffe, blue-wheeled a beast.

You hunted a giraffe?

Oh, yeah.

That's dope.

Yeah, I don't want to piss any of the vegans off.

Yeah, I shot a giraffe, zebra, blue-willed a beast, bush pig, basically, all the small African game.

You can hunt anything.

Everyone thinks, oh, but they're extinct.

What about zebra?

You can hunt anything you want.

You can hunt lion, hunt crocodile, hippotamus, elephant, you you can hunt leopard, whatever you want in Africa.

Was there any sketchy encounters there with the animals?

No, so I was hunting small game.

The only thing that could kill you on the ranch that I was on is leopard, which they won't because they're so rare.

And blue, what is it?

Cape Buffalo.

Those things will charge you.

They've killed a lot of people.

But as long as you're in the vehicle and you're pretty much good.

Now, if you want to hunt bigger game, like lion and elephant, you're on a whole different ranch.

It's like a separate thing.

These are private ranches we're hunting on.

It's it's all legal it's all you have like hunt license and everything but uh yeah that's a whole different thing because these lions if you're trying to shoot them they'll literally charge at you damn and if you are not a good shot you're dead i mean no we

were uh our guide that we were with i i went i've been there twice now so yeah i took my grandfather there and my cousins my uncles because it was my it was his dream to hunt that's how i got into hunting because of because of him nice so i took him that's why i got into whole african hunting it was amazing but

we went there one time but the second time we came back they said the week before they took someone out and he got mauled by a lion.

Holy

no, not they didn't, but their uh their neighboring partner with a ranch, they took them out.

And yeah, the guy got mauled.

Like, wow, it happens all the time.

So I don't know if I'm too into the big game hunting yet, but uh, I mean, my friend wants to do it.

He's like ready to go for a lion.

I'm like, all right, you gotta, he's never even shot a rifle until this past time we went.

And I'm like, probably work your way up to that.

Yeah, yeah, no, it's risky because, like, you have three, four seconds.

Like, the second.

Oh, that's it?

Yeah, and these things are huge, too.

So you shoot it once.

You got to shoot it, like, and you have a high-powered rifle, too.

So you get, like, two shots.

And if you miss, then, I mean, they'll have people with pistols next to you, but, like, you can't rely on it.

A pistol won't kill a lion.

Yeah, yeah.

Well,

if two of the guys are just, yeah.

But yeah, those things will, people get mauled every day.

Wow, that is scary.

I've seen your take on video games, and I think it's interesting for someone your age.

So many people your age are interested in video games and play them ridiculously.

Yeah, video games is just another form of dopamine let's say you like watching movies sure let's say you like gambling sure let's say you want to play video games it it's not a good thing to do every day but if that's your thing and you do it once a week whatever i i don't play video games i never was really really into it but i think there's like a few weeks in college i was playing super smash bros a lot and i was like this is fun as well i mean it's fun uh i'm trying to think the last time i played a video game when i when i go home to my hometown i have like an xbox and i'll play like zombies maybe with my brother for like 20 minutes but yeah I wouldn't I wouldn't get into video games again there's not really a net positive to video games just like drugs unless you're doing it for a living right so

if you like it if you like it it's not good because you're gonna probably do it in place of other things that will give you more satisfaction and if you don't like it then why the are you doing it you know yeah you're also not a fan of sporting events and concerts yeah not really i actually don't like really music in general i hate loud music like at this casino i got to get out of vegas because i'm like

tick tick like i i just can't even though i do well in vegas i don't really like the whole loud music thing i don't like a bunch of crowded areas and uh sporting events i just don't see why you would go to a sporting event unless you're betting on the game what's the point of watching other guys sweat i mean some people like it as a game but whatever it's not really my thing yeah you went viral for that one clip about becoming a billionaire oh yeah what was your uh take on all the feedback you got from that yeah i mean they just don't believe that i'm the youngest billionaire i can't believe it I'm 22 years old.

How can they not believe I'm a billionaire?

But no, in reality, that clip was obviously a joke.

A lot of people are like, you're not actually a billionaire.

I searched you up.

And it's actually weird.

For some reason, Google says I have a net worth of 837 million or something.

Wow.

I don't even know.

The internet is very retarded.

I didn't even, so many people were posting.

It actually went like gig viral.

I probably got like 50, 100 million views across.

all platforms and people were just kind of hating on it.

I was like, obviously, it's a joke.

Because when someone asks you your net worth, you're not going to be like, yeah, my net worth is actually 83,690,003 cents.

Like, you're not going to tell someone your actual net worth.

And everyone would lie anyway.

So I was just like, yeah, I'm the youngest billionaire.

But anybody that actually wants to be a billionaire, I think, is a moron.

Because

why do you want to be a billionaire?

What is the point?

What?

So you can be in the back pockets of the government or you can...

I don't know, probably cheat your way to the top.

How do you make that much money?

You have to do some type of shady thing.

Maybe you own a giant business.

Maybe you're going to hit with lawsuits every single day it's it's one of them it's either you probably own some type of fun where thousands of people are on your back you have thousands of lawsuits or you own some type of giant company or you're in the bed with the government and that's a whole other story on why you don't want to do that so to actually make that amount of money people don't realize how hard it actually is i have no inkling to become a billionaire not my thing i'm not actually the youngest billionaire Obviously, I like to make money.

I'm a hustler.

That's how I was born and that's how I've always been.

But I don't don't necessarily think of it like a numbers game.

Like, oh, I want to reach $1 billion someday.

I think someday, I mean, I'm 22 now.

By the time I'm 60 with smart investments and I'm very good at trading and I'm very good with understanding the markets.

But yeah, inflation too, I think probably could get there, but it's not like I would even care.

That is the only way to do it without some.

I mean, you have...

the amount of stress you're under as a billionaire, you can't even enjoy life.

It's almost like running for president.

Like, you just, it's not where I want to be.

Yeah.

I want to do way, way different things.

That's true, though.

You see a lot of the billionaires like Zuckerberg and Bill Gates, they look really stressed.

Yeah, those are like giga billionaires.

Even people that have like one to two billion, I mean,

they've had to do something or they own some giant company and that's a whole other thing.

If that's your thing and you, that once, that's your life purpose, then sure, but I have other purpose in life than running for a company.

No, I agree.

Ty Lopez talks about this actually.

He says make 100, 200K a month, stay low-key, and you'll be the happiest you've ever been.

Yeah, yeah, that's kind of how I've been.

I mean, I've pretty much been off the internet for two months now.

I completely stopped tweeting.

I only post things on Instagram, like just stories when I'm out having fun.

But I just completely stopped social media.

I stopped making videos.

I stopped giving voice messages on my Telegram.

I just, I get bored really easily.

I was kind of done with it.

I feel that.

Gavin, it's been fun, man.

Where can people find you?

Yeah, if you want to find me, my Instagram is at Mayo.

I mean, that's the only place I'm really posting.

I used to post on Twitter.

Maybe I'll come back at EarnMayo.

and that's basically it.

I don't really, I mean, my YouTube is at EarnMayo, but I don't really post on there anymore.

And

yeah, all right, brother.

Thanks for coming on.

Awesome.

Thanks for watching.

Yeah, great.

Great seeing you again, man.

For having me.

Yeah, see you guys tomorrow.

See ya.