Change Your Life with Psychedelics | Ash Ruiz DSH #409

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My father passed away when I was 16 and that was a huge gift for me because another big question was what does it mean to be human?

And I kept having this reoccurring dream of me being in the middle of the rainforest.

I was a tree in this dream.

I was like a human tree and it felt so good.

Completely rooted on this planet.

My branches were open to infinity.

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All right, guys.

We're here with someone I just met today, but I knew I had to get him on the show.

Ash Ruiz, my man.

I love the colors.

Thank you so very much.

Alpha.

Okay.

You just have great energy.

Thank you so very much.

So do you.

Yeah, man.

I'm so happy to meet you.

Dude, same.

I'm glad to be here.

We were in the same room for an hour.

you didn't say a word to me but i could just feel your good energy man

very cool i was so honored to be a part of that session yeah yeah i was just enjoying everything that was happening energetically yeah and all the honesty that was spoken there's nothing more powerful than honesty i mean it completely opens up a portal you know from from heaven absolutely and and fills it's the fragrance it fills this this world with its fragrance.

I mean, honesty is my favorite.

Absolutely.

How did you gain these powers to be able to feel these energies that are coming out of people?

Wow.

I think since I was a little kid, I always had this question about, you know, I'd look around and I'd see all the adults and I'd love them dearly, but then they were doing so much crazy.

I was like, how can I do something different?

How can I show up differently?

What are we not noticing?

What are we not seeing?

And then I was a part of this boy band called Menudo and thrust onto this global stage and

being around so many people that supposedly had it all, all the success, all the money, all the fame.

And yet they were treating waiters like

and yet they were not happy.

And yet, and so again, that question, okay, what are we missing here?

What's going on?

How can I show up differently?

And that inquiry just continued to open me up, continued to, whatever calluses were were forming around my heart with

being in such a tough industry and with so much dysfunction happening in my life,

those questions allowed all of those calluses to soften, revealing

the power of,

as cheesy as it sounds, the power of love and the power of

of honesty and being present.

And when we open up in that way, gosh, all of our cells open.

You know, our sense of solidity opens.

You know, we look at what we think is solid.

So I had all these ideas that I thought were solid about who I was, where I was,

what was life, what was real, what wasn't.

And in that softening, even those ideas started to melt.

And even those identities started to melt, revealing something totally stable and totally clear and an intimacy that I've I've yet to see broken.

Wow.

That's a crazy journey.

And you chose to walk away from fame rather than just stay in that lifestyle, right?

Right.

Especially my idea of fame and

the version of fame that was happening on the planet at the time.

You know, being a part of this boy band, we got a lot of opportunities.

But again, I just saw that it was empty.

It was like empty calories, empty promises.

I, you know, my father passed away when I was 16, and that was a huge gift for me because another big question was, what does it mean to be human?

You know, and I kept having this reoccurring dream of me being in the middle of the rainforest, planted up to my knees.

And just, I was a tree in this tree.

I was like a human tree.

Wow.

And it felt so good.

And I was like, oh, wow, completely rooted on this planet, but yet my branches were open to infinity.

And

that felt, I wanted to, I wanted to explore the possibility of living like a tree, pretty much.

That is so cool.

I'm a big believer in your dreams have meanings.

Yes.

And I have a dream journal that I've had for years, and you really do learn a lot about yourself from dreams.

Right.

I mean, it's awesome.

The messages we get.

And that's why I love plant medicine because it's kind of like it's kind of like dreaming

from in another space, you know, where it's like it's the intersection of our soul wisdom and our unconscious, our subconscious mind coming together, revealing, you know, these scenes

where things can get reframed.

Aspects of our past can completely get reframed in an instant in a very theatrical way.

And it's so powerful.

Yeah.

You know.

Yeah, I'd love to dive into your plant medicine journey.

I know you're big on ayahuasca.

Is that the first one you started with?

Well, the first ceremony I ever did was with Huachumas, with,

what's the other word for it?

San Pedro.

I've heard of that.

And I was 17.

But yeah, I would say ayahuasca is my main medicine.

And, you know, what I like to say is my real main medicine is pure beingness, this moment here with itself, that which is closer than any time, closer than anything that could have ever grown or disintegrated, that which is naturally is.

And ayahuasca is my favorite permission slip to noticing what we don't notice because we're so caught up in the psychedelic of our mind, of our perception.

See, what I love about psychedelics is that it meets the psychedelic of mind.

One of the definitions of a psychedelic is to see things that aren't there.

As soon as we believe a thought, we're automatically seeing things that aren't there, a stressful thought.

So let's say we imagine, oh,

this person's not going to love me.

And then we have all these scenes of how that's going to happen and how we're going to end up on the street or how we're going to, we're in a psychedelic trip.

Yeah, we are.

I never thought of it that way, but you can go down deep rabbit holes just with those thoughts.

So I love how the psychedelic of the soul meets the psychedelic of mind as a way to cancel the two out.

There's this Indian sage by the name of

Papaji, affectionately known as Papaji, H-W-L-Punjaji.

And he says something called,

along the lines of imaginary medicine for imaginary disease.

And that's the way I see plant medicines.

Wow.

Yeah.

So elaborate on that.

Imaginary medicine for imaginary disease.

Right.

So this imaginary disease of all of our traumas, all of our conditioning,

all of our unmet karma, unresolved anything, all of that has to do with ideas and descriptions, definitions.

And in that world, that movie world, we just don't notice the screen is always here.

You know, it's like before the movie starts, screen.

When the movie's over, the final end credits and that last big high note,

screen.

And then what's so fun about, you know, you're speaking to my friend Deborah Silverman on astrology and all these wonderful modalities and powerful systems of the soul that invite us to recognize that we can wake up, that we can notice that even during the movie, there's a screen here.

There's something at peace, something still, the movie of our life, the movie.

And so imaginary medicine, so it's like the dream medicine meeting the dream ailment.

Yeah.

And in that, we can notice that which has, has, has never given into completely the dream, you know, that which is always at home, always at peace.

Incredible.

Do you think ayahuasca is a drug where you need to be ready to take it or do you think everyone should try it?

I think, you know, because we're all so different and each of us, it's so important to question, to really be honest with yourself if you're ready for that.

It's so important to explore steps you can take.

Maybe starting off with little psychedelics like

assisted ketamine sessions.

Yeah.

And then maybe some psilocybin and then moving into

deeper waters such as ayahuasca can be can be really powerful.

I like that.

Yeah.

I'm actually looking into those ketamine sessions right now.

Awesome.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Have you seen any studies with those or any friends that you know that have benefited?

Right.

So many friends that have benefited.

And me myself, you know, as soon as I came back from the jungle, I was so excited.

I did, I kind of did ayahuasca first,

but I was so excited to explore the benefit of all these other, I saw them as gifts.

I see them as gifts.

And so, yeah, I had really profound experiences with ketamine.

It kind of allows us to find some space.

You know, a lot of times we're so caught up.

We're so wound up in this idea of who we are as something separate.

and all the things that are wrong with us and all the things that we need to fix and all the desires that we have that as soon as they happen, they feel really good, but then we want more.

And that's all, what an adventure that is.

But, you know we don't notice that there's spaciousness here and ketamine helps us find that space wow uh-huh that's cool and in that space we can maybe um touch upon a sense of fulfillment a sense of peace you know could you imagine where it's like you know there's only two ways to do anything one is in stress and one is in peace and to feel that peace and to be like oh well i can i can take the steps to fulfill my dreams in a peaceful way

even getting i can get a lot of done at peace and it's interesting because we don't notice that that's an option available to us yeah because i think we're just moving so fast right we want to get there really really quick and yet we don't notice that we're also completely still there's a part of us that has never moved anywhere and you're really good at tapping into that just being in the present I feel like people struggle either in the past or in the future, tend to focus on.

I mean, they're so tempting.

Yeah.

They're both so cute.

They are.

I used to dwell on the past all the time, like what if I did that, you know what I mean?

Right.

And then if we start noticing, oh wow,

if we're having a thought about the past, the only place that that is appearing is right now.

If we're having a thought about a future, which is another word for past, the regurgitated past, we can say the only place that that thought is happening is right now.

If we're having an experience in another dimension, the only place that is appearing in is right now.

Wow.

If we're having a past life experience, the only place that is happening is right now.

Yeah.

That's so true.

Wow.

That's trippy to think about.

Isn't it fun?

Yeah.

Those past life experiences, you learn a lot as well.

I've been dabbling with it.

Yeah, they're so powerful.

They're so powerful.

I've explored nine of mine so far.

Oh, that's true.

There's still so many more.

But you really, you have this trauma that you don't know about from past lives.

Right, right.

It's important to clear it.

Yeah.

And then what I love about past life exploration is that we eventually discover you know that everyone here on the planet is one of our lives

that this soul that you are one of my lives you are one of my lives you at home are one of my lives

one of my lives and then you know we can really fall in love with each other Is that because we're all connected, you're saying?

Right, we're all connected.

And just how I was speaking to this moment is right here and everything happens in this moment.

It's only one soul having these lives.

You know, it's one aware, infinite, universal consciousness experiencing itself in infinite ways.

Jeez.

Man, we could go deep on this.

Oh, Lord, have mercy.

So basically infinite dimensions.

It's like infinite dimensions that are only serving as the exaltation of this that is never known a dimension.

This that is closer than a dimension, closer than anything that can be described, even infinity, even something more primal.

I need to take some ayahuasca to get through a poem, man.

This is crazy.

I have a poem that kind of speaks to

this.

It's one I wrote called Abundance Jackson.

It's here.

And it simply says,

Sacred Geometry, watch it fly out of me.

Sonic astronomy, this be vocal alchemy.

Toning my way into Ganesha's balcony.

The view from in here is a celestine prophecy.

Angels with microphones, goddesses sing, Lakshmis ascending on butterfly wings.

Cosmic disclosure.

Cosmic disclosures about identity.

The only life here is the one listening.

The only life here is the one listening.

The only life here is the one.

Listen so sweetly that you disappear.

Listen so clearly until you're not here.

Not here as a thought, not here as a body.

Not here as the one trying to get to the party.

Because right where you are without changing a thing is the one celebration, the only big bang.

You've never not been the pure presence of love.

You cannot experience there's not enough for atoms keep flying right out of God's pocket.

It's your face on the the ID that God has in her wallet.

No need to say it, but I'm going to call it.

You've always been you and you've always been balling.

Your name is Abundance Jackson.

Your name is Prosperity Jenkins.

Your name is Infinity Smith, exalting the reality of indescribable bliss.

Your name is God loves me, Gonzales.

Your name is God is me, Ruise.

Your name is the sacred, immeasurable beauty that brings everything here to its knees.

Confusion.

Confusion's not just for the wealthy.

Confusion's not just for the poor.

Confusion's but the unquestioned assumption that this moment should be something more.

More this, more that, more Cadillacs, pure imagination, when maybe not tending to the here and now contributes to global devastation.

Maybe not taking the time to invest in the silence found in meditation gives rise to the hurt and the pain we inflict on ourselves.

We inflict on ourselves, only ever ourselves.

Misidentification, skin lines, timelines, them dead lines drawn on a map.

The only word I can find to rhyme with the assumptions of lines is crap.

The you, me, that gives rise to destinies has only ever existed as flashing possibilities, a thought in the mind of God, a God in the mind of thought.

It's a good thing this here golden perfection has never ever once been caught up in mental aberration.

Thank heavens for evaporation, for the ingredients of separation can't survive the shine of this here confirmation.

Your name is Abundance Jackson.

Your name is Prosperity Jenkins.

Your name is Infinity Smith, exalting the reality of indescribable bliss.

Your name is God Loves Me Gonzales.

Your name is God is me, Ruiz.

Your name is the sacred, immeasurable beauty that brings everything here to its knees.

Wow.

Dude, that was incredible.

You have great memory.

That was a long one.

Okay.

Wow.

I am impressed.

Air, air.

Yeah.

That was an air thing.

That was beautiful, man.

Thank you.

Thank you.

It's rare to see someone so at peace with themselves, man.

Thank you.

Like you are.

I've actually never seen this.

Oh, I so maybe with a few other people, but yeah, I'm super impressed.

As soon as you said that, I so received that, and it's so beautiful.

I just felt my grandmothers smiling, my grandfather smiling, all my ancestors.

Wow.

You know, it's like when we get to discover the option of being at peace with what's here, it reverberates throughout all of time.

Amazing.

Is this spiritual journey something your family embrace?

Did they support you on this?

To some degree, I had a Cuban grandmother that loved, she was like

spiritual buffet.

She loved all the religions.

Her and her

and her husband at the time,

they bought a school bus and they would pick up all of us cousins and the school bus and go to a different religious establishment every weekend.

That's actually cool.

It was so cool.

Different perspectives.

All the different perspectives.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then I had another grandmother who was this little Italian lady who would walk around saying things like,

Life is consciousness.

And then she, one day I was like, I'm bored.

I'm so bored i'm what do i do i'm so all my friends are gone and i'm just here and i'm so bored and she was like you're bored okay and she picked up a rock and she put it in front of my face and she said ashley this is a rock what if i were to let go of this rock and it just stayed floating right in front of your face would you think that's cool and i was like

yeah that would be cool like

And then what if that rock started spinning around your head,

moving like this?

Do you think that'd be

that'd be that'd be really cool.

She She was like, you're living on that rock right now.

She said, boredom is the only miracle.

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Wow, that's deep.

It's like, how the hell could you be bored on this spinning rock flying through infinite stars?

And we get to be bored.

It's a miracle that we're bored.

There's

so many things you could do, right?

So many things, so many things we can notice.

We can even just brace ourselves.

Like, oh,

we're moving.

Yeah.

Wow.

What a journey, man.

Yeah, she was sweet.

So what age were you when you first did ayahuasca?

First time?

My first time was in 1996.

Dang.

That's before I was born, man.

Okay.

Wow.

And I was 20 years old and

I had met these anthropologists that invited me to ceremony with a tribe called the Schwar.

And

I went and I had such a profound experience.

When I approached the medicine, I had already had an experience in Machu Picchu, kind of like of noticing this blank state of being.

I call it the plain ass cracker.

Because, you know, nobody wants the plain ass cracker.

We want to focus on the cheese whiz, on the guacamole.

We want to focus on the Texas caviar, you know, and that's all the fun things, anything that we can describe, anything that we can label, anything that we can name, anything that we can strive for.

Wonderful, adventurous.

But yet this plain ass cracker is still right here.

Wow.

And so I got off this helicopter.

We were going to film a music video in Machu Picchu with this boy band.

And I get off the helicopter.

A couple months after my father passed away.

So I was marinating in these questions.

What's real?

What's important?

What does it mean to be human?

And as soon as I stepped off the helicopter on that sacred land, I disappeared.

The whole world disappeared.

The whole universe disappeared.

I can still see llama and I can still see ruins and I can still see production crew and I can still hear the music, but none of it had an independent nature.

It was all but the celebration of, it was like everything was the celebration of no thing.

And then I had to sing.

So no matter how loud I sung, the sounds were were the celebration of silence.

They were evidence of silence.

And it was a boy band.

So there was a lot of shaking, a lot of moving, a lot of gyrating, a lot of twerking.

No matter how much I danced, all the movements were evidence of this.

That's totally still.

And so

it was so profound.

And so when I got to the medicine, it was.

evidence of what has never taken medicine before.

Because I like to say you know awareness has never been touched by the medicine wow there is something in us something

infinitely vast in us that has never been touched by the medicine and never been touched by the disease never been touched by the conditioning never been touched by the trauma never been touched by this lifetime that lifetime or that lifetime but that's so totally deep and still we just don't notice it incredible so it was was a powerful ayahuasca experience.

So powerful that you ended up living with that tribe for a bit, right?

I did.

I did.

I lived with them.

I woke up and had the sun for breakfast.

We would walk up to this little hill area.

And as soon as the sun was rising, the sun would create the day.

We'd look at it and move our heads back and forth.

And then with our eyelashes, we'd see the light moving like this.

And for this particular tribe, they were talking about this spider that would weave our day into existence with the sun's light and that was really cool to spend time with them that's really cool yeah it's actually i'm reading a lot of studies on just getting sunlight in the morning in general it's really good for you right oh my gosh circadian rhythm it's so good a lot of times i'll open my mouth and just be like

i'm gonna need some sun

some sun rays

yeah and when you look at the sun as soon as it's going down um when your eyes slightly like this and you move like this

it's such a wonderful way to take in those sun nutrients really yeah try that out yeah try it out it's fun so how many years were you with that tribe well i wasn't with them for years okay um that would have been really cool but after three months i was like okay this was awesome i love y'all

and they were just living like on the land yeah totally living on the land that's cool and it was really beautiful to sit with them What we mostly did, which is what I mostly do with everyone I know still to this day,

is ayahuasca.

Is we'll just sit and laugh.

We'll sit and laugh.

So yeah, there was there was ayahuasca.

And it was interesting because it didn't matter the age.

There were four-year-olds in ayahuasca, seven-year-olds in ayahuasca.

Yeah, and in these particular tribes, there's a lot of them where,

you know, I don't know if there's a particular age limit.

It might differ from each tribe, but there are children that take the medicine sometimes.

That is crazy because their brain's not fully developed.

Right.

I know it's really interesting, you know, all the different options there are on this planet to be human.

So after the tribe, what was that next step in your journey?

The next step was coming back and integrating.

Yeah.

You know, coming back to the States.

You know, I just left this boy band and then I moved to Peru and then I was with this tribe.

And then it was kind of like, oh, I want to go back home and get a job and spend time with family.

And, you know, how is this new perspective that I have going to change my relationships and the way I see my mother and the way, you know.

And so it was powerful.

I came back to the States and I started a new band.

Oh, yeah?

There was like back to the boy band before ayahuasca, then the boy band after ayahuasca.

So you didn't want to leave the music industry?

Well, it was interesting because this, with Menuto, it was all pop and it was the music industry.

With this new band called Inner Voice,

no, called Here to Here,

it was, you know, we got to design it the way we wanted to.

So we were going from retreat center to retreat center.

I was, you know, we were known as, you know, the soundtrack of the present moment.

So I was performing with this band

for people like Deepak Chopra and Ekartole.

And,

you know, we did stuff with the Dalai Lama and the Tibetan State Oracle.

We would just go from retreat center to retreat center.

From, we were performing in the palladium.

We would, we did a palladium tour.

No, Palladium?

Is that what it's called?

With the stars?

Oh, Planetarium?

Planetarium.

That's what it was.

Those are cool.

Yes, we did a whole tour of Planetarium.

Really?

And we would just borrow what they had already created for,

you know, what band was that?

Like

Rabbit in the Sky, Rabbit in the...

I haven't heard of that one.

I can't remember my Brian Simon.

It was before my time.

And it was kind of before my time, too.

Like a really trippy band

led zeppelin it was it was for led zeppelin gay led zeppelin

and so we would just borrow what they had created and we would put our own music to it our live sets and it was and it was amazing and uh and that was another way to like just learn and rest yeah and get to hear all these different teachers and their perspectives these spiritual luminaries and their perspectives and and then just really feel into what resonates and what doesn't And it was so powerful, such a powerful decade, about 14 years that we did that.

Beautiful.

The power of sound is so fascinating to me.

Yeah.

I just had Robert Edward Grant on the show and I just learned about how it can really influence your subconscious depending on what you're listening to.

Yeah.

For good or for bad.

Right, right.

And then, you know, how some people theorize that sound is what built the pyramids.

Yeah.

I mean, it's so powerful.

I think he's on a mission right now to figure out the exact music to unlock the pyramids, which is crazy.

What's a mission to be on?

Isn't that awesome?

Him and Billy Carson.

Blessings to him and all the people that are helping him.

Yeah.

Mission.

Yeah.

It's beautiful.

So, after doing that for you said 14 years?

About 14 years.

What did you do after that?

Well, in the meantime, well, during that 14 years, I would occasionally do

ayahuasca ceremonies, but it wasn't so popular.

It wasn't like it is today.

Yeah.

And then I, you know, during the pandemic,

I was just called to show up in that way more.

I was seeing a lot of spiritual malpractice, we can say.

Very innocent, but

there's the tendency that the human mind has to take anything sacred, including plant medicines, and corrupt them,

turn it into its own.

It's like ego's version of ayahuasca, ego's version of this religion, ego's version of past lives.

And without the vigilance to recognize that tendency, something so beautiful can all of a sudden turn really crazy.

Yeah.

So how do you find the right practitioner to go on this journey with?

Right.

It's so important to spend time with your own soul, to really get in touch with your own intuition.

And that's really going to help navigate your experience.

being quiet, really listening when you're speaking to someone, hearing their story, really hearing, feeling into the heart of what it is they're saying.

And then, of course,

you know,

the prayers that we have, the intentions that we set, you know, having a silent prayer of, you know, universe, I am going to be available for you, guiding my each step to the perfect teacher

can be a really powerful prayer to get someone started on that.

Nice.

Yeah.

Because I know people that have experienced with some bad people, like you were saying earlier, and it ended really bad.

Right.

Right.

It can get so scary.

It's like one of the most, you know, for me, in ayahuasca ceremonies, it has to be the safest place on earth.

Yeah, that's important with any psychedelic.

Right.

And when people are giving it to them in their mom's basement, it's, you know,

not really the best place because then the guy ended up walking outside and there's a bunch of houses and he's naked.

Oh, dear.

It can get bad, man.

It can get really, really bad.

You got to be in a really good spot.

Absolutely.

So the church that I work with, it's Leaf and Divine.

And we really really emphasize the importance of

preparation.

So, you know, a month-long preparation before ceremony.

And then integration.

We offer integration for free for the life of the church

where anyone who's ever done a ceremony with us can come on and just share their experience and hear others.

and their experience and their journey.

And it's so healing.

Integration is so important because, you know, the medicine, you have that, that, it's only 2% of one's healing, that really profound experience.

But if you don't embody it, integrate it, take it in deeper into your bone marrow, it's just something that came and went, and you're still being

informed by the trauma and by the fear and still making decisions from that space.

Medicine's only 2%, you said?

I would say 2%.

Yeah.

It's a powerful 2%,

but you really got to show up

and be available for integration.

Yeah.

I want to close off with aliens, actually, because people that take ayahuasca, they all report seeing some sort of entity.

That always fascinated me.

What's been your experience with that?

Wow.

Oh, my goodness.

I love that you bring this up.

One evening after an ayahuasca ceremony and I was coming down from the medicine, I was in my little hut and I had a python as a roommate that just lived in the corner.

And I'm and I'm and I was lying there.

And then it just felt like the whole space, it didn't feel like I was lifted somewhere or I went somewhere.

It just felt like all the atoms, it was kind of like the green screen of my experience just went

and shifted.

And all of a sudden I was on a giant mothership.

Whoa.

And there were beings from all over the galaxy, all different kinds of faces, all different kinds of sacred geometric structures,

different frequencies of energy.

Some of them were more solid, some of them were more disembodied, more ethereal.

And we were all there to recognize what we all have in common.

So we may look differently.

We may sound differently.

We may be in different parts of infinity.

I have different address in the cosmos.

But when it came to our true essence,

there was one essence.

We were all the same.

That was that one consciousness.

And I'm looking around and it was so beautiful to notice, you know, to have this group confirmation of like, oh yeah, this is what's real.

This is what's true.

And this is what all of our lives get to honor and get to be at the feet of and do our best to

celebrate throughout the universe, perpetuate throughout the universe.

That is so beautiful.

And you weren't even on ayahuasca.

This was after.

This was after ceremony.

Wow.

And it was really interesting because it was a ceremony where right before

this moment happened, I was thinking, my ego that was on ayahuasca was thinking, damn, this is so good.

How do I share this with everybody?

How can we market this?

You know, this needs to be put in a bottle and be sold at all the, and, and, and how do I recreate this?

That was a big thing for my ego.

How do I recreate this?

Oh, that was in a powerful moment of peace.

How do I recreate it?

And in that instant, it was like, this is good.

How do I recreate this?

And there was a voice.

There was some awareness that said, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's cool.

You're seeing dimensions.

You're seeing past lives.

You're going here.

You're going there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's awesome.

And what about this moment is the same

when you're scratching your ass?

What about this moment is the same when you're tying your shoe?

What about this moment is the same when you're happy, when you're sad, when you're dreaming, when you're awake in this state, in that state, when you're on ayahuasca, when you're on Kool-Aid, you know, what about this moment is the same?

And so it really turned up the volume of this that doesn't move, this that is closer than coming and going.

Yeah, incredible.

I can't wait to take it one day, man.

If I ever do it, oh, I would be so honored.

It would be such an experience.

Absolutely.

Gosh, it's been a pleasure.

Anything you want to so much.

Yeah.

Anything you want to promote or close off with?

I mean, I just, everyone that's listening right now, I just want to just acknowledge that, you know, your heart is so huge and your capacity for love is infinite.

And your capacity for abundance is infinite.

And your capacity for an adventure,

a life full of adventure is infinite.

And

I see you.

We're doing a spiritual cosmic fist bump right now.

Love it.

And if you'd like to know more, visit me on Instagram at illusion slicer.

And that's my handle, Illusion Slicer.

Cool.

I know there's no illusion to slice anywhere.

Or you go to my website, ashrewees.com.

Love it.

Thanks so much for coming on, man.

Thank you so much.

Thanks for watching, guys.

See you tomorrow.

Thanks.