From Food Stamps to Making $4M a Year I Lara Rahib DSH #385

I got to figure out a way on how to find a way to still sell online but not have to utilize Amazon.

And that's when I discovered like Shopify and dropshipping and all that stuff.

I ended up, you know, hiring different mentors to learn like the ins and outs of like ads and things like that.

In three months, I did $1.1 million of sales.

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All right, guys, Lara Rahib here.

Thanks so much for coming on.

Absolutely, man.

Crazy story.

From food stamps to doing $4 million a year.

That is a crazy journey.

I don't even know where to start.

But I guess, how are you making the money?

We'll start from there.

So, e-commerce.

So,

2016,

I started on Amazon actually.

I had like a mission to like retire my parents because they were still working.

My mom had like chronic arthritis.

My dad was sick, but they were still working because they needed money.

So I ended up dabbling with multiple businesses.

Like I tried like Kindle publishing, you know, a cleaning business, tutoring business, like all these different things, but nothing like made the money that I wanted it to make.

And then I was scrolling Facebook and then I came across like an ad for like e-commerce, you know, and then I was like,

let me try this, you know?

So I started it.

It was Amazon at the time, 2016.

And I started literally like after like four months of doing Amazon, I was making like $30,000 profit per month.

Dang.

And then I was like, f it, like, this is the ticket, you know?

So I ended up retiring my parents.

They lived in San Francisco at the time and it's expensive as there.

So I moved them to Temecula, bought a house there.

You know, they didn't have to work anymore.

And then my business from Amazon went to.

So it was like doing $30,000 dollars profit per month like i had a mortgage that was almost like three thousand dollars and then they basically stole my business oh they undercut you yeah they undercut me and i started making like two thousand dollars profit per month i heard they do that to good products yeah for sure like they can see everything on the back end you know so they're like why wouldn't they and they can like buy as much inventory as they want you know multi-billion dollars um so anyways what ended up happening is i was like okay

i can either you know two thousand dollars profit per month wasn't paying for, so I could either go find another job, you know, because I had a lot of skills, you know, had a degree and all that stuff.

What was your degree in that?

Biology.

Okay.

Yeah.

So,

but I was like, that's not what I want, you know.

After you get it like a taste, you don't want to, you know what I mean?

Yeah.

So I was like, all right, I got to figure out a way on how to

find a way to still sell online, but not have to utilize Amazon, like a third-party platform.

And that's when I discovered like Shopify and drop shipping and all that stuff.

And I was like, okay, f it, like, I'm going to try it, you know?

So I ended up, you know, hiring different mentors to learn like the ins and outs of like ads and things like that.

And so, um, in three months, I did $1.1 million.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Your first three months?

Yeah.

Holy crap.

Yeah.

So that was like a 24% profit margin, you know?

Wow, so you made 250.

Yeah.

And I was like, okay, boom, like this is is the ticket, you know what I mean?

Um, so then, like, it

like the rest is history, pretty much.

I just kept doing that.

Um, the brand that I had on Amazon, like, I moved to Shopify, you know, because I had the skill set now to like run ads outside of right.

Oh, so it's the same product, you just moved it.

No, no, no, different product that did 1.1 million.

But once I figured out the skills and like the strategies to actually get a product to that point,

I moved my products from Amazon, my brand, used those skills to scale it using like Google and Facebook.

Nice.

Yeah, so then ever since then, you know,

it's been like all e-commerce.

And then like a consulting thing opened up, you know, because people wanted to know like what I was doing.

So I saw it as an opportunity like to open up like a consulting agency.

So now we have like the e-comm Wolfpack Coaching Program.

Lots of real estate investing and things like that.

I love that.

But all because of e-comm, you know.

Yeah.

A lot of dropshippers fail or they just, I don't know what it is.

Maybe they can't find products or something.

Why do you think that is?

There's multiple things.

I think the big thing is like e-commerce is like four puzzle pieces.

It's not just like one thing.

It's not like you just have to find a product and it doesn't matter your website or anything like that.

It's like four puzzle pieces.

Like you have to get the infrastructure right, right?

The four puzzle pieces are product research, website optimization, ads, and logistics and brand building.

If one of those puzzle pieces is off, it will fail.

So you can't just like have a good website, or I'm sorry, have a good product and put it on a website and hope it sells, right?

You have to have a good product and a good website, you know, so everything kind of goes hand in hand.

Plus, you have to have good ads,

you know?

So a lot of people fail too because they, you know, try it out.

They try one product and they're like, oh, it didn't work.

But they're not actually learning the actual skills and the infrastructure that you need to, you know, build a sustainable e-commerce business.

I agree.

Cause I think the ad part is probably the hardest, right?

And the most important.

Yeah, 100%.

I mean, the ads aren't that hard, to be honest.

Like, I think what most people struggle with is like product research.

Right.

Yeah.

From like experience of seeing, like mentoring a lot of students, product research is, they get like analysis paralysis, you know, like they don't know like, is this good?

Like, should I move with it?

You know, like they start thinking, like, should I, um, if I don't, if I wouldn't buy this, maybe I shouldn't sell it.

You know, they start getting in their head, which is like really like

them over.

People want perfection, but you're never going have everything lined up i think you learn a lot just by doing it 100 taking lessons from that yeah 100 it's a process you know yeah uh so right now tick tock shop is hot right have you done anything there i have but the problem is with tick tock shop it's like amazon so you don't have control over your business okay um when it comes to shopify you have full control you have a hundred percent control you you know own the customers you can remarket to the customers send them you know sms bunt like messages, you know, email marketing, all that stuff.

When it comes to TikTok shop, like you don't own the customers, it's kind of like a third-party platform how it runs.

You don't get their emails or anything?

No, like you can't like export and get like a bunch of, you know, it's literally just a, you don't even need a Shopify store.

It's literally just on TikTok.

Like people just buy on TikTok.

So since people just buy on TikTok, like you don't have any control over anything else.

Like TikTok can take you down.

TikTok charges fees.

Plus, they're very strict.

Like you have to get your product out within two days or basically you get like penalized.

That makes a lot of sense.

Are you using any AI now in any part of the business?

Absolutely.

There's all kinds of AI when it comes to like finding like trending products, building websites.

So many different like AI tools, like writing product descriptions.

You could use like chat GPT, you know, writing your ad copy, all that stuff.

like you could literally use AI to do wow you're writing it your ad copy with AI yeah you can absolutely I need to look into that I just started running ads last week oh yeah definitely chat GPT you could just give it a prompt and I mean you might have to tweak it a little bit you know because it's not perfect you know what I'm saying you're gonna know more probably about like your industry or what like you're looking to like your ideal customer than than chat gpt you know but it gives you a good basis like to work off of yeah for sure it won't have that emotional element right you can use use that and then change some words yeah 100 yeah i like that um in terms of the ads are you still running a lot on facebook mostly google oh google wow so google's working better for you google is king like the google algorithm the way it works is it basically hand feeds you buyers like it it's very smart like it knows like like it tracks you right you go on google it knows what you're searching for it knows like where you're going like it kind of like follows you around kind of thing um but yeah the new performance max like with Google is like super powerful.

Um, performance max, is that their new AI or something?

It's like a new campaign strategy, like performance max campaigns.

I gotta look into that.

Yeah, so you got me excited,

yeah.

So, performance max.

Um, the thing with Google, like, versus Facebook is Google

very low.

Like, you don't need to have like videos like to launch.

Like, it's literally like product pictures for your shopping ads.

Um,

and like, it's low maintenance, like, it's very consistent, you know like if you have a high like return on ad spend like it's pretty consistent like you might have like maybe a like say your return on ad spend is like 5x you might have a day maybe it's like 2x but it it won't go below like a certain threshold and you don't have to constantly be uploading new like creatives like Facebook you know like new videos and constantly looking at your ads every day you know like I probably check my ads like once a week damn yeah Facebook ads be giving me anxiety yeah it gives you anxiety 100%

Yeah, when we used to use it, when I used to use it heavily, like you'd wake up and like your ad account's shut down.

And

you're making a lot of money and you're like, like, what now?

You know, like, they shut your ad account.

My business manager got shut down.

Yeah.

They shut everything down.

And then like, you get, you try to open up another account and then they hit you with another like circumventing policy and like all this stuff.

And it's just.

Facebook is a f ⁇ ing missing nightmare.

I've never had a Google Ads account shut down.

You're right, though, about that for sure.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Depends what kind of ads though you're doing.

It is tough to set up Google Ads like because they don't like

drop shipping from China and things like that.

So we have like a way to kind of go around that.

You know, if you're watching this Google, Google, for sure.

Yeah.

That's someone else talking about it.

Yeah.

I saw a clip on your YouTube.

You only work four hours a day right now.

Yeah.

That's impressive because you're doing four million a year.

So yeah.

So that comes with like not just e-commerce, but like all businesses, right?

Like real estate investing, consulting, you know, all that stuff.

Yeah.

And why do you choose to work so few hours?

It just depends.

You know, some days it's like four hours, you know, some days it's like eight hours.

It just kind of depends on the project.

Like if I have a new project going on, I might work longer than that, you know, but literally like I choose when to work, you know, like

yesterday, like only worked maybe two hours.

You know, it just kind of depends.

The important thing is having the right team and the right, you know,

people backing you up.

and putting systems in place.

You know what I'm saying?

Because if you don't have systems in place, you're going to be working all the time.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

That's why we get a lot of people, you know, like doctors, nurses, construction workers, literally everything you can think of that, like they make good money, but they literally have to show up.

Like they can't just travel and make money.

Like they have to physically be at a job to make money.

Yeah, there's no location for them.

There's no location freedom.

Yeah.

Yeah.

With you, you can work from anywhere in the world.

Doesn't even matter.

You could vacation for a year right now and your business would still run.

Yeah.

How do you do that?

Like, I'd still have to do things.

I film content and like, you know, things like that.

What were the most effective systems you built out to save time and money?

I think having the right team.

What were those hires like?

What was the order?

I think

it's very important who you hire.

Like your business can, because we've had instances where like we did hire the wrong people, you know, and like you notice, like, oh, like my business

wrong.

It's going wrong, you know?

So you kind of just have to fire those people and start from scratch and really focus on putting the right infrastructures and systems in your business first by yourself and really understand like the ins and outs of your business doesn't matter what business it is you know and putting the right people in the right place

and firing faster than you can hire right you know because if you could easily hire someone they can come to an interview and they're like this person's like badass but then you realize like a month later what the is going on like it's all talk like this is not working out and you got to be able to fire them but that's a tough thing yeah we've made mistakes where like we didn't fire them fast enough you know and they cost you money because yeah they cost you emotional attachments sometimes literally yeah because i've had on sales reps that i like personally yeah and i it's hard to fire them but they're just toxic to the workplace 100

yeah yeah same for with our consulting like firm you know like we've had like salespeople and like you have to have the like the right um culture you know what i'm saying because one thing one person can really like bring the entire culture down.

And like your business,

like everyone, the energy, you know what I'm saying?

Like, can make people like,

you know, like, don't want to work for you.

Don't put 100% and like energy feeds off energy.

You know what I mean?

Did you always have a big drive to make money growing up?

Yeah,

my dad, he was always like, he owned businesses.

It wasn't like online businesses, but it was brick and mortar.

I'm Middle Eastern, so like we kind of like, they do

that's all they do you know those deadly you go to the 7-Eleven down the street it's probably like some middle eastern yeah

but uh yeah so like I kind of always I've always had jobs you know I was a real estate agent worked sales jobs science jobs all that stuff but the thing that got me always I never like got along with my bosses and I always realized too like

like no matter what job I have like I'm always going to have to show up to make money.

No matter what it is, whether I'm working in a lab, i'm a real estate agent you know i'm working a sales job i'm i have to be there you know what i'm saying um physically so it made me think too like i don't want to work until i'm like 60 you know 70 i want to be yeah you know what i mean i want to be able to like enjoy life and

you know do things like other people like can't do you know yeah when you made that million three months did your life just completely change yeah i think it like a huge light bulb went off and you're like

like this works, you know, like

it's like it's insane, you know what I'm saying?

Like it's not just like the online space like works selling products online.

Like you see all these companies selling products, right?

Yeah.

And

it just like absolutely changed.

Yeah, because I could have if that didn't happen like

and like it didn't like spark, you know what I'm saying?

Like that didn't happen.

Like, I don't know what I would have done because I'd be at like $2,000 profit per month from Amazon.

I had a mortgage that was like three grand, just retired my parents.

So it's like, you know?

Yeah.

Were you able to keep some of it?

Cause I know when you make money quick, sometimes you just blow up.

100%.

So you were disciplined with it.

Yeah, 100%.

Yeah.

I'm big on like investing, you know.

I have a lot of like real estate properties out of state, mostly in Indiana, and like storage facility.

Okay.

That's like, I, I don't like to like just have my money like in the bank.

Like if I have enough money to like invest in something that makes sense, then I'm going to invest in that thing, you know?

Yeah.

Well, having money in the bank, you're losing money.

Yeah, exactly.

You know what I'm saying?

But there are like different accounts.

I forgot the name of the bank, but I know you're talking about high-interest savings accounts.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

CIT bank.

Yeah, yeah, things like that.

They give you like, I don't know what it is, like a

5% a year or 4%.

It's better.

It's better to be actually like 6%, but they kept lowering it.

Like, I'm thinking of changing, like, I'm with Chase, you know, but I'm thinking of it.

Yeah, dude.

Most of the traditional banks, yeah, you know, they don't really give you, but it's like it's just sitting there, so it's like

what's

going on.

You want it to grow, you know?

Yeah, shout out to Graham Stefan because he's the one who showed me those banks.

I used to use Chase and stuff, but they give you 0.1%.

Yeah, yeah, 0.1%.

It's like five bucks every year.

Yeah, for real.

Why'd you choose Indiana?

Do you have family there or something?

No, I was studying a lot about like investing in real estate

and

like different markets and things like that.

I follow this guy

on

Instagram.

Shout out to Invest with Ace.

He

basically educated me a lot on like investing.

And I went with Indiana because the cash flow is there, you know?

Like, for example, if you were to buy something here in California, you'd probably be in the negative, even if you rented it out and like all the, you know what I'm saying?

So Indiana is perfect because the rents and the price, like the way it works, it's like you'll still have cash flow.

Like

the property will pay itself off.

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With the renters, plus you're going to have like that equity like increase every year.

Smart.

Yeah, because Indianapolis is popping off a little bit.

So if you get a spot on the bottom, I usually don't invest in big cities because there's too much competition with like investors But if you go like an hour out of like a city, you know like like say an hour out of Chicago or like an hour out of Indianapolis, that's like where the money's at got it.

Yeah, the suburbs.

Yeah, because yeah, cities are like try investing here in LA.

And even Vegas is tough.

Like you got to go kind of outside.

Yeah, Vegas used to be good though, man.

If you got in like a long time ago, man.

Same with Arizona.

yeah the houses i live in now were like 400k now they're 1.2 million like 10 15 years it's insane you triple your money and it's pretty safe too because you could take loans out against the house you do a bunch of tax stuff yeah so real estate's definitely a safe investment yeah for sure he locks are great like uh equity line of credit you know yeah i've used that a couple of times like with the primary residence you know you get a line of credit you use it to buy a property and fix it up and then you um refinance with the bank and they give you more than what you put in.

And then you just pay that HELOC back and take that money

and do it again, you know?

Yeah, that's like a money burner.

Yeah, that's cool.

And you said you had some storage facilities?

Just one.

I just started doing that, purchased it in November last year.

Going good so far.

You know, it was a learning process for sure, like getting the right systems and things in place.

Everything's pretty automated, though, with the storage.

Nice.

Yeah.

You don't have to demand.

No, I have someone over there that does like the boots on the ground.

And then I have like a team, like I hired a company called xps to basically do like the call like people when people call in like call center excuse me and like management and things like that nice anything else you're investing in other than real estate no i tried crypto it was a nightmare really it's up right now have you checked it

dude i don't want it to no i didn't sell i just i lost like probably like 20 grand back in like 2017.

oh what'd you buy what coin dude i don't even know like just a bunch of like altcoins like different but i i did have good coins you know i still have, but I don't, I never like check up with it.

Like, dude, like Bitcoin, and um, there's an what is that other one?

Ethereum, X, oh, Ripple, Ripple, yeah, and all that.

I mean, you should check because if you bought in 2017, you yeah, I know it did go up, but it wasn't like crazy, you know, like I have four thousand dollars like sitting there, it's not like millions.

Well, right now, it just hit, it's about to hit all-time highs, so but now it's like, are you gonna buy at all-time highs?

You know what I mean?

That's what you kind of do.

But the thing is, is like

getting good at one thing instead of like diversifying too much is like the way to go because like when people start like diversifying too much, like okay, I'm in Bitcoin and I'm in stocks and I'm in real estate and I'm in this and I'm in that, I'm in that, like you lose your focus, you know what I'm saying?

But if you put your 100% into like one thing, like the way I did like with e-commerce, put literally 100%,

like you'll really get the reward, you know?

That's what I, that's what I think.

For me, it's like e-comm and real estate, you know,

That's like the big thing like I don't really care about like Bitcoin, you know, I want to put a hundred percent of my focus like where I know I can like excel and where I know like it works, you know instead of like dabbling in different things and losing my focus while I'm dabbling with those different things and missing out on opportunities with the things that I do know, you know, I agree because when I made a ton of money off crypto, I invested in restaurants, I invested in Forex, I invested in random

watches, and they all went down.

That's what I'm saying.

Like you get like

money happy, you know, and you're like, where's my next like thing?

Where am I going to make my next like million dollars?

Where am I going to make my next, you know, half a million?

You know, and you get like money, like you want to put it here and here.

People are talking about this and you get like FOMO and you're like, let me put it here, you know, but it doesn't work that way.

No, it doesn't.

Yeah, I love it.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

Yeah.

You got to stick with what you're good at.

100%.

And put 100% focus.

And now you're getting really good at coaching stuff, right?

That's how I found out about you.

I got an ad i was like wow let me let me hit this person up yeah yeah for sure um

yeah so we started i started consulting back in 2018.

so a lot of people like from the amazon people like we had a big group like people like doing amazon everybody's business like when

wow it wasn't just me um and then they saw what i was doing they're like what the you know help me out and i saw it as like being an entrepreneur like i saw it as an opportunity why wouldn't i open up like a school like a consulting agency?

And that's what I did.

You know, I started like coaching, you know what I'm saying?

And I came up with the Econ Wolf Pack coaching program.

So I'm known as the Econ Wolf.

And so the Econom Wolf Pack, you know.

So we started doing that.

I had a student that

was very, very successful.

And me and him just clicked, and we actually ended up being like partners.

Shout out to Yamil Kahat.

So me and him now have, you know, scaled also like our coaching business

to like five million dollars a year.

Wow, so cool, and being able to help thousands of people make a living, whether it's on the side or full-time

must feel great because you're saving families, yeah.

And we we donate a lot to like make a wish foundation, yeah.

Um, so last year we donated like eighty thousand dollars.

Yeah, why are you passionate about that one specifically?

Uh, just because it's like kids like going through like illness, like, could you imagine like being a kid, like

having cancer or like a disease where like you actually can't be a kid.

Like you're literally in and out of the hospital 24-7 or like five days a week, whatever it is.

You can't like enjoy life.

And like just being like always in that like really takes a toll on the kid and their family.

And being able to like grant them with one wish, whether they want to go to like Disneyland or whether they want to, you know, go meet Taylor Swift or whatever the f it is.

You know, could you imagine like the shift when they when they get that wish and like their mindset or like their life, them and their family?

it makes a huge difference.

I love that.

Yeah, I'm in the process of registering my dog right now to be able to visit sick people

at the hospital because that can make their day.

100%.

Yeah, dogs are super healing.

Yeah, it's a big thing.

My dad passed away from cancer in 2021.

Oh, so

yes, yeah.

So it's like,

I mean, he lived a good life, you know, he was 80 at the time, but like, can you imagine like someone being like five, you know?

Yeah.

That's so crazy.

It's just crazy.

Yeah, and I know you grew up in a kind of rough environment, right?

Your parents were always working and you said they were both sick your whole childhood.

No, not whole childhood, just like

as you know, they weren't sick.

Like my mom's really healthy.

It's just like working like too much, you know what I'm saying?

My dad had like different like stores, like gas stations, things like that.

Um, and he was there all the time, right?

Right.

Morning till evening or night, you know what I'm saying?

Um, so they were working all the time, you know what I'm saying?

Like, there wasn't like someone that would, they didn't have like employees.

It's hard to trust people, you know, things like that.

So it was just, yeah, they were working a lot, you know.

Did you go?

Oh, sorry, go ahead.

They gave us a 100% good life.

Nice.

That's good.

Did you end up going to college or was that?

Yeah, I did.

I got my degree in biology.

I wanted to actually be like a forensic scientist.

Like that was my like passion, like goal, like solving crimes.

But once I realized like I'm going to be, I worked in a lab and then I was like, I got fired from that job because I was always showing up late because I didn't have like a passion for it.

You know, it was like just another job making like 44 grand a year, you know.

This was back in like 2010.

But

then I

thought, like, dude, I'm going to have to be in a lab till I'm like 65 and like go to court and like do.

I was like, I don't know.

That's just not the

I wonder how much forensic scientists make because that is an important job.

You're solving murders.

Friend that I went to college with that does it here in LA actually makes good money.

I mean, probably like, I don't know 100% sure, but I would probably think 80, 90.

I mean, it's not like LA, that's not fine.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, in LA at least.

Yeah.

If you're in the Midwest, that's like taller.

Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

But man, if you're going to Erewhon out here every week,

yeah, it's expensive, but it's good, dude.

It is really good.

Can't deny that.

If you lost all your money right now, do you think you can make it all back?

Yeah.

Wow, the confidence there.

I love it.

Yeah, 100%.

I talk about this actually a lot.

Like, if I were to lose like everything right now, like, what would I do?

It's really easy.

I would open up 0% interest credit cards, no interest for 12 to 15 months.

Don't you need good credit for that though?

Yeah, but did I lose my credit?

Oh, sure.

Okay, so we're assuming the credit's 800.

Yeah, no, I mean, you can get a 0% interest credit card with like six something credit, you know.

But if I lost everything, you know, but I still had my credit, I would get a 0% interest credit card and start building building my business from there.

You don't need a lot of money to like build an e-commerce business.

You could literally start your ads with like 10 bucks a day on Google.

Wow.

Yeah.

It's not like a...

And the product is dropships.

You don't need to spend any inventory costs.

Yeah, 100%.

No inventory costs.

Eventually you might want to get inventory, you know, just because

you have more control and you can.

brand it the way you want and like things like that.

But I wouldn't recommend like getting inventory right off the bat.

You know, that's the best way to do e-commerce is to mitigate risk as much as possible.

Yeah.

And do it where you're testing the product, make sure it sells.

Once you're getting like 10, 15 orders a day, go ahead and buy inventory.

Because once you buy inventory, you're going to increase your margins too because you're buying in bulk.

Absolutely.

What were the biggest challenges scaling for you?

Like in the beginning, like when I first started, I would probably say like PayPal holds.

I was going to ask about payment holds.

Every e-commerce guy like PayPal holds like chargebacks like things like that when you first start and like really understanding like

like like you have to have a good logistics system you know like a good supplier that's gonna get it out fast and you have to input like your tracking and PayPal and stuff like that

so that was like the biggest challenge because like you make a bunch of money and then PayPal is holding like fifty thousand dollars and you're like

how am I gonna buy more product or how am I gonna do this?

But

eventually, they'll release the money.

But avoiding that is super, super crucial.

It's hard to avoid the PayPal one, though.

You just got to get, you got to put tracking numbers in PayPal.

You get an app called PayPal Track, and they basically

automatically put your

tracking numbers from Shopify into PayPal.

I didn't know that.

Is that a new thing?

No, it's been around.

No one tells you that.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah, I had PayPal PayPal holds, Stripe holds.

Yeah.

Squares holding my money right now.

What?

Like, what were you like?

Yeah, Econom.

But now Squares holding my money.

I haven't had a single refund, single chargeback.

I'm like, are you serious?

Like, who knows what they're doing with that?

Yeah.

Sometimes I think, like, I used to think like PayPal holds your money and like they take it and invest it.

And then when they're done, like, they give it to you.

No, they literally probably do that because banks do that.

When you deposit your money in a bank, they use it 10 times.

Yeah, it's crazy.

Yeah, they lend it out to 10 different people.

It's insane.

I I mean, banks are a money printer.

That's what we got to get into.

Yeah.

But you're at the point now where is money even the main thing?

No, not really.

Like you get to a certain point.

Obviously, who doesn't like money, right?

Like, I mean, you'd be lying and full

said you didn't, right?

Because

it's not about the money.

It's about what the money provides, right?

Like the freedom, right?

If you didn't have money,

you don't have the freedom, right?

You don't have the

money's like an accelerator, right?

It allows you to do things that.

So is money even the main thing for you right now anymore?

No, um, you know, uh, money, of course, like you would be lying if, if you said, like, you didn't like money, right?

Who, who doesn't like money, right?

But it's not, it's not the paper, right?

It's what the money provides.

It's like the freedom, you know, the money's like an accelerator, right?

It allows you to do things that you didn't think you can do, right?

Like retire your parents or, you know, give someone, like donate money, like for a good cause things like that um i don't think it's so much now once you get to a certain point like a certain level it's not so much like about the money that you think about it's like what the money can do for you you know because it's not people get fixated on like a certain amount of money like in the bank like

um like i want to have a million dollars in the bank like well that's really not gonna do anything for you like yeah you're gonna have a lot of money but you know you need to take that money and do things with it yeah but the point is is like no it's not like the money it's more like changing lives and like doing things where I don't want to die and be remembered like, oh, yeah, I remember Laura, like the one that made a lot of money.

Like, I don't really want it.

I don't care to be remembered like that.

I want to be remembered, like, oh, Laura, yeah, dude, like, she changed a lot of lives.

Like, she impacted a lot of people.

You know, that's what's important to me because, you know, like, if you think of people that have passed away, like

Martin Luther King and like thing, you know, like things like that, like people think about what he did, you know,

to impact and to like change people's lives, not like how much money he made.

That's exactly where I'm at, too.

Cause so many people have money.

Yeah, like anyone can make money, you know what I'm saying?

It's not even like a flex anymore.

Yeah, like, you know, and I'm not saying like

you can't like go out and buy things you want, you know, but just making sure like you're not like overly

like going crazy, you know, because that really gets to your head, you know, like a lot of people like like people that don't have money even, like they go and like buy a new BMW or buy a new, whatever, Mercedes to flex, right?

But they don't have any money.

And that's like, there's also people that have money that do things like that to like show like they have money.

Yeah.

And I'm not saying like it's bad to like buy luxury things.

Like I've, I've bought luxury, you know, like if you enjoy it, sure, treat yourself, but it shouldn't be like the main focus because you'll lose yourself in that shit.

You know what I'm saying?

Like you'll, your, your life is basically pointless.

Like you're just making money to what?

Like, buy shit.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, like, change the life.

Like, do something that's going to actually impact the world, like, impact people.

I love that.

Yeah, I love that so much.

That's why I started the podcast, honestly.

Yeah.

To change some perspectives, impact lives.

I get messages daily now saying, like, you've changed my life.

People come up to me.

100%.

So cool.

That means more to me than to make money.

Yeah, yeah.

And when people, like, recognize you, like, in public, and like, and they're like, dude, like, I love your content.

You know, I don't know if you, you get that, but sometimes I get that yeah sometimes but no but like people come up to you you know and they're like dude i love your content like i've learned so much like blah blah blah like it it's like makes my gig

that's awesome you know and like you sit and talk with them like get to know them a little bit you know what i'm saying it's cool for sure laura it's been fun anything you want to promote or close off with uh yeah i mean if you're looking to you know build a six seven figure e-commerce business go ahead and follow me at the econ wolf um send me a dm or go ahead and go to theecomwolf.com.

We'd love to help you get to six, seven figures in your e-commerce business.

Whether you're a beginner, intermediate, go ahead and reach out.

We'd love to help you and change your life.

Love it.

We'll link it in the description.

Thanks for coming on.

Thanks so much, John.

Thanks for watching, guys.

See you next time.