Getting Banned on TikTok Making $15K a Month at 14 & Dropping Out of School I Jake Sujanani DSH #384

Like I was talking to my dad about this.

My school is recently starting to build a business institute.

They're pushing like you have to go to college, get a job, work your entire life.

It's never teaching you like you could actually be something and create something out of yourself.

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All right, we got a 14-year-old on the show today.

Youngest guest I've ever had.

And I've had over 600 episodes.

So this is, this is exciting.

Jake Sujanani, thanks for coming on.

Appreciate it.

14, man.

So you've been in business from how long?

Well, so I've always kind of wanted to make money.

I really started like, even since I was 12, like I was doing like the pressure washing, whatever.

I did window cleaning.

And then.

Literally last year is when I actually started getting to the online space.

So I made like $600, whatever just doing odd jobs like pressure washing and then i found out found out about amazon affiliate marketing and i blew up on tick tock like you can still find the account 200 000 followers and that's when i really started making money online wow so you were 12 when that happened or 13 i was i was 13 when that all started middle school yeah middle school i was in eighth grade killing it in middle school man that was doing good it was like

my best month i did like 7 000 straight from commissions and then on top of that sponsorships from whatever these chinese amazon sellers yeah and that did extremely well wow so from there did you focus on that or did you switch it up from from i completely switched it up so it was almost a whole community of us it was like five of the biggest guys on tick tock it was a whole niche at the time amazon deals and then you just promote your affiliate link but like i saw that it was dying and i also got banned on tick tock like my account got age restricted because i'm 14 right um so i'm like all right i need to get into something more long term like i really want to build a personal brand because at the time, time people were just following me for the deals.

No one actually cared about me, right?

So I saw that it was dying.

And I'm like, all right, I'm just going to start posting about myself and my journey to, you know, start making money online.

Yeah.

Wow.

So you're in high school now or still in middle school?

Yeah, I'm a freshman now.

Okay.

And do you plan on going the full four years?

Yeah, it's been in my mind to switch to online school.

A bunch of different guys who are in sort of my position.

Like one of my friends is 16 and he switched to online school and he told me it was the best decision he he ever made but at the same time for me i don't know how much i just want to be at home all the time right yeah like i like interacting at school and stuff like as much as like i would say like you know i don't like it you know the things they teach but at the end of the day like yeah i'm gonna graduate like i don't see why not there's no point in not you probably got kids hitting you up non-stop in school asking for how to make money that's probably the most annoying part like if i was to put a label on the most um annoying part about all of this is just the people like it almost feels like people are always trying to use you or trying to get something out of you, right?

Like at school now, it's like if people are talking to me, it always seems like something related to how I'm making money or like how I could teach them, you know, putting them on, whatever.

And it's just, it just kind of gets old, right?

You got trust issues.

No, literally, that's why I talked to literally like four or five of my friends that, you know, that I've known since before everything.

And that's literally it.

Dude, that's crazy.

Yeah, making that money at that age, because now you're up to 15K a month, right?

Yeah, 10, 15.

At that age, that's like being a millionaire.

I mean, what are you gonna use that on at 14, you know?

No, literally, like, that's probably the that's the tricky part about actually making money like before you have a car, before you know, I live in my parents' house.

I don't pay for anything, you know, I eat for free.

And really, like, the only thing I could even spend my money on is just whatever saving, and then I buy clothes, whatever, like, that's really all you can do.

So you're just stacking her now.

Are you investing in anything?

No, literally, like, it's just been either sitting in in my account or I buy clothes.

Yeah, you can't even open up a stock account, right?

Cause you got to be 18 for that.

No, yeah.

I mean, sometimes my dad helps me with different stuff.

Like, we recently just got my LLC set up.

Like, I don't think I've ever paid

a single cent in taxes my entire journey doing this.

And,

you know, now we're working on getting the LLC set up.

They don't teach you that, man.

I remember my first year in business.

I was like, what is this?

What is this tax bill I'm getting right now?

No, I'm saying a lot of, like, a lot of my friends in this space run into that thing.

like because it's not something that they teach you like whether it be in school and especially if you don't have older guys guiding you like one of my friends is about to get um

destroyed in taxes he had over six figures come straight into his account he's 16 and he spent all of it like he has 12 000 in his account now he's gonna have to get on a payment plan no he's done yeah i mean honestly they never teach it in high school even college you have to be in like an accounting class to probably learn about it no yeah it's just that's another like issue kind of have with school.

Like there's not a big

thing like where they teach about you could be an entrepreneur, that you can make money yourself.

Like I was talking to my dad about this.

My school is recently starting to build a business institute, but it's after a long time.

It always seems like

they're pushing like you have to go to college, get a job.

work your entire life like it's never teaching you like you could actually be something and create something out of yourself absolutely i think you've done well at getting that friend group of other people that are are doing what you're doing.

That's what I try.

I feel like that's the biggest thing.

Like people at the bottom are the ones who are in competition.

People at the top are the ones who are in collaboration.

I love that.

Yeah, I love that.

Because when I was in high school, it was kind of when social media was starting, but it wasn't normal to be in entrepreneurship.

So it's kind of looked down on.

But now if you're doing it, it's almost like you're cool, you know?

Yeah, no, it definitely, I wouldn't say it's become a normal thing, but it's definitely become something that's really popular.

Like everyone wants to be an influencer.

Everyone wants to be famous on social media, whatever it may be.

yeah and especially now how easy it is to monetize like it's the it's the easiest way to be making money online just literally posting videos absolutely it's an interesting dynamic for you because you're you're making more than your teachers no yeah so you're sitting there in class like why am i even listening to this yeah some of this stuff is stupid like especially like in like these dumb classes like i take french class i recently got a 40 on my quiz and it's just i feel like I mean, you know, it's language or whatever, but like, I feel like some of the stuff, it doesn't really matter, right?

Yeah, language.

I mean, the way they teach it is so slow, dude.

I took Spanish for four years.

I was in honors.

I still can't speak it.

You know what I mean?

And that was four years.

And if I just went to Mexico for a year, I would be fluent in Spanish.

No, literally, it's a slow curriculum.

And they have you doing like just busy work.

Like, I feel like school is full of busy work.

Homework, busy work, because they put everyone at the same speed, even though you and I probably learn faster than the average person.

I know.

Like, I feel like that's why this whole online teaching is going to really like become something in the future because it's like

catering to like your interests and like the speed at which you learn.

Like not everyone learns the same.

Not everyone thinks the same.

Not everyone learns at the same speed.

That's why some kids excel in school and some kids, you know, fail.

100%, dude.

I listen to audiobooks and podcasts at 2 to 2.5x speed.

And that's like normal for me.

Because I've trained myself.

Obviously, I had to start at like 1.5 and then work my way up.

No, I got you.

It's like I'm learning twice as fast as the average person.

Exactly.

You know what I mean?

But I want to talk about your Discord.

You have your own server.

I recently just launched my own community.

Like that ties in.

Like, I really, like,

how I said, like, people at the top are collaborating.

I hate all this stuff with like gatekeeping.

Like, people, it should be a thing to teach people

how to make money as well.

Because why would I, why am I in competition with random, like random people?

Like, if you support me, obviously, I'm going to teach you what I know.

Because at the end of the day, it's not me against you.

It's both both of us.

We're both trying to get somewhere.

We're both obviously trying to make money.

We're trying to become rich in the future.

So I launched my Discord and I basically just teach every way that I've made money.

And literally, as soon as I figure something out or I come across something that has made me a ton of money, I instantly share it.

Like, I don't believe in all of this.

Like, yeah, let's wait until it's, you know, oversaturated or let's gatekeep this method because honestly, it's just like.

It's just stupid.

A lot of people have that scarcity mindset, I think, especially in drop shipping.

No one ever wants to to talk about their methods or their products yeah i know it's stupid like like they think it's a huge competition with all of this but it's really not there's so much money in the world there's so many people in the world like people have such a fixed mindset when it comes to even clients like in my short form content agency like people were like jake why would you um tell exactly how you do your outreach why would you tell um your method of marketing if if it's going to limit your clients and i'm like there's so many creators, especially now we're literally in an influencer bull run.

Yeah, yeah, short forms popping off right now, dude.

I just posted some clips when I interviewed Grant Cardone.

Each one has like a million views.

No, it's crazy on Instagram.

It's, it's nuts, dude.

I mean, I don't even think people watch long form as much as short form these days.

No, that's why it's really hard, like, to see the direction of everything.

Cause before, like, you know, TikTok and all this short form game popped up, long form was the way that you're going to succeed in social media.

But now it's kind of tricky.

Like I even, I was even struggling, like, should I continue just growing my short form or should I get into long form?

And like, I recently just uploaded a bunch of YouTube videos because I feel like it's how you get longevity in it.

Because

the whole reason of posting and growing a personal brand is to build a deeper connection to your audience.

And that's, you know, inevitably how you're going to sell to them.

Like you, you have to get them to trust you.

And you can't really build a connection in 30 seconds compared to one that's a 10-minute video.

Agreed.

Yeah, you definitely need both.

I think short form is kind of like the top of funnel where you bring everyone in with like clickbaity clips or whatever that are 30 seconds to a minute.

And then if the long form is good, they'll stay.

Yeah, exactly.

Like it's fast too.

Like long form, it could take months for your video to blow up.

But if you just post clips on it, like you get.

instant results in that and then you could just funnel that into your long form.

Absolutely.

What's been some of your most viral videos?

Some of my most viral videos,

It was on drop shipping and my SMMA stuff.

Those have always been killing it.

And then I blew up off of just my journey.

Like, I would just document every single little thing I did, you know, whether it was a loss, whether it was a win.

I first blew up on TikTok maybe five, six months ago.

First video got a million views, and I was averaging like 400K views a video.

That's crazy.

Then I got banned.

So wait, wait, how old do you have to be on TikTok?

Well, there's no real age limit.

I mean, they say you have to be over 13, but the thing that I really ran into is people reporting because that's really how you're going to get taken down for being underage.

And I mean, there's a lot of envious people in this world.

There's a lot of people who, who

want to bring others down if they're doing better.

And

99% of the time when I get banned, it's because people report me for being under 13.

Wow.

And how it works is there's nothing I could really appeal to, like,

send to appeal.

Like, if I put in my passport, for example, saying, you know, I'm 14,

it wouldn't matter because they implemented a new guideline recently.

Like, if you're under 16, your videos won't get pushed to the for you page.

You can't have comments.

You won't even have a link in your bio.

Damn.

So it was just not even worth it to appeal.

So it's just like.

You're going to have to get a fake ID, man.

Say you're like 17 or something.

Man.

I tried.

I put in my brothers, but he was 15 15 at the time i put my brother's permit uh and you know he wasn't 16.

no so you got brothers yeah i have an older brother okay does he do this type of stuff too my brother is big in soccer he's actually um he's moving to spain for boarding camp or boarding school so he's nice he's good at soccer yeah damn a 16 yeah these kids are starting younger and younger no literally do you play soccer too or no no sports no i don't play any sports business baby business is a sport for real though like i see business as competition and you know getting to the top no yeah, literally.

Mark Cuban says it's a sport.

It's like the biggest sport in the world.

It's 24-7.

Literally, yeah.

No breaks.

But I'm similar to you, where I like to collapse and stuff.

I don't get jealous.

I mean, when I see success in the podcast space, I'm like, that's sick.

Yeah, exactly.

Like, it's stupid when people, especially in the short form game, like with this whole community of like these finance influencers, it's a lot of them get mad when you steal video ideas because if a video goes viral once, it's going to go viral again.

And people, everyone knows this, but when you steal someone else's content ideas or even their hook, one of my friends, Noah, was just telling me how another creator was mass reporting his account because he stole one of his video ideas in his hook.

Wow.

I'm just like, it's so stupid because

if it's going to go viral, why would you not want the other person to succeed?

Like, it's not like social media is not a competition.

Yeah.

Like, it's not like someone is better than someone else.

Like, I know creators who have less followers than me and who make more money.

It's just, it's stupid to compete over people's attention.

It's short-formed content.

People watch hundreds of videos a day.

Yeah, that's so dumb.

I mean, people repost my podcast clips all the time and I love it.

Yeah, exactly.

And if anything, if you have your own distinct way of speaking or distinct way of scripting your videos, people are going to tie it back into you.

So if anything, it's a better look for your brand.

Like people reposting your clips, like, yeah, you could take that as, oh, yeah, they're taking money from me, taking my audience, but if anything, they're pushing you out more.

Yeah, for real.

I mean, I got the background here.

So if you want want to repost my clips, it's right there, guys.

Feel free.

And some of them get a ton of views.

And

people take those down and they're like, you're stealing my stuff.

But in the long run, it's good for you.

Yeah, exactly.

It's definitely good.

More eyeballs, more ways you can monetize, in my opinion.

Easily.

So you're doing 15K a month now.

Do you have any financial goals or you're just riding with it?

I don't know.

Like, that's one thing.

I really should plan out my goals.

All of my mentors were telling me, Jake, you need to write down your goals for 2024.

And I was like, yeah, I'm going to get around to doing.

doing and i like you know it's march 1st now and you know i haven't rented down a single thing wow in my mind i know what i want like i want i want an amg g63s and a hellcat just bought the g63 are you serious yeah in december it's a good tax write-off so far such a sick call because you can it's over 6 000 pounds so you could write off the whole or 80 now i think that's insane yeah yeah i'll teach you some stuff you got to do it before uh so in december you would do it to write off all your profit

because you're gonna make, I don't know what your margins are, but say you profit 100K, that would be like paying 40, 50k in taxes.

So, instead, you could just buy a car.

Oh, I got you, yeah.

My dad has been a big help, like teaching me about all this stuff too.

Because you know, I am young and I don't really know anything about anything as far as you know, actual business.

I mean, I really just make videos online, yeah, and becoming like a like aware of all this stuff is crucial.

Do you have a business mentor yet?

I have three three mentors right now oh well one big one i had two other ones in the past and

one guy aj yabbitt

um he's not big on social media i just recently helped him go viral um he does he runs a high ticket sales agency and he's just been a huge inspiration to me like he he helped me make my first fifty thousand dollars in this damn like the first month i worked with him he made us he made me forty thousand dollars in a month the first month i ever worked with him holy crap what does he teach um he runs high ticket sales so he put appointment setters um and closures in my dms posting ctas and funnel people with like my high ticket mentorship oh nice which was like a thousand dollars at the time um five hundred thousand dollars at the time and are you interested in coming on the digital social hour podcast as a guest we'll click the application link below in the description of this video we are always looking for cool stories cool entrepreneurs to talk to about business and life click the application link below and here's the episode guys

i mean i'm gonna be honest i did not even make a lot from it because i put myself in a really bad deal like it's i didn't really think about the percentages like i had a partner at the time um and then you know i was also giving the you know aj's team closers yeah so i i definitely didn't make like a ton maybe like 10 000 off of that but it was definitely an experience and just shows like he he's smart and he's taught me a bunch about even helps me like with my workout routines like nice he's really huge inspiration that's cool man yeah high ticket closing is such a good skill dude it's crazy i mean you can make six figures a year as like a teenager as a high ticket closer easily there's so many ways to make money online like everyone thinks there's one just way to make money online like what's the best way what's the easiest way like every single way to make money works like drop shipping is never dead e-commerce can't die um smma works

content automation works every single side hustle you hear on the internet works for some people it's just choosing what you want and sticking with it yeah and i think effort is is needed and also the mentors definitely needed to save you time and money it's super hard to succeed without having someone guiding you like you could only get so far just figuring stuff out on your own yeah like investing in yourself and your knowledge is the biggest thing like that's why i don't know why people hate on courses i mean i know some gurus sell bad courses and you know obviously he puts a bad rep on it but courses Just help you expand your knowledge.

Like if you really want to do something, if you want to learn more about e-commerce, like you're going to have to invest in some sort of mentor or, or guidance to learn more.

I used to watch a course a day when I was in college, dude.

It was nuts.

I watched every single guru you could think of.

I've seen their course.

No, yeah.

And usually multiple, like Ty Lopez, seen all his, Sam Ovens, Alex Becker.

I don't know if Alex Becker had one.

Dan DeSilva, all those guys, bro.

That's how I started.

Because when you're broke, the knowledge is what gets you to that next level.

No, exactly.

Yeah, courses are a game changer.

They do get a lot of heat.

I understand why, because now they're pretty expensive.

A lot of them are complete, to be honest.

So I could see why, but if you really do your research on the course and the person teaching it, you could join a really good one.

No, exactly.

Like, you just got to find someone who's actually credible, which is hard.

Like, it's easy to fake being rich.

Like, it's easy to fake, you know, a lifestyle.

But if you just really, like, watch this person's content, taking what they're saying, you'll know if someone can provide you actual value if they're providing you free value in their video.

Yeah, Alex Ramosi, right?

Yeah.

That's the goat right there.

So do you just work as soon as you get home until you sleep pretty much?

No, honestly, I don't even do a lot of work.

You know, I do, I do what I need to do, you know,

but I do relax a lot of the time.

I mean, not majority of the time, but it's one big misconception is that you need to be grinding 24-7.

You need to sit at your laptop for 16 hours at a time.

It's just honestly just stupid because like you just have to work smart.

Allocate your time correctly and you'll get to where you need to be yeah i agree because there's times in my life when i was younger where i i would grind all the time and i never gave myself time to think and plan you know what i mean and that's needed or i'll still get caught up in the grunt work yeah exactly like sometimes you could just be doing hard work for nothing yeah like you actually have to be working smart and just because what's the point if you're not getting any results right if you're just working on building like a store for 16 hours

Well, what's the point, right?

If it, if you're not gonna, if it doesn't yield any results, 100%.

So is coaching your main focus right now coaching other people no my main thing right now has been uh my new agency which i dropped like two-ish months ago and it i just took a completely different approach because tying back into the whole thing like people want to see results creators want to see results like i run an editing agency you could say like i edit people's videos i help other entrepreneurs like six seven figure entrepreneurs go viral on instagram and a lot of people the reason people fail is because of two things.

They sell it wrong or they have no social proof.

These guys aren't going to respond to you if you have no followers on your page.

And they don't care about how their video looks.

Like these guys could care less how crazy the editing is.

They want to see results.

Like if you're not giving them results, there's no point in them working with you.

So I took a different approach and I'm like, I guarantee you 10,000 views the first video.

Wow, the first video.

First video.

And the way I do that is pretty much, it's like a shout out type method.

because I don't know if you know this, but if you repost someone else's reel on your story, even if they don't click on see reel, it counts as a view.

What it's crazy.

So, reposting someone else's video, like I don't know how many um shares you get on your story, yeah, like 50k 50k.

If you repost one of my videos, I'll get 50,000 views, dude.

I didn't even know that that's crazy organic as well.

It boosts the video.

So, one of my first clients I was just testing it with, um, I reposted his first video.

He got that 10,000 views because I get rough like 15,000 views on my story.

And then his video blew up to a million.

It's at 800K or a million right now.

Dude, that makes a lot of sense.

Because when I do collab posts with my bigger guests and they restory it, those always get way more views.

No, exactly.

Yeah.

Wow.

I did not know that.

I thought you had to be on for like three seconds or something.

No, literally, if they just see, if they literally just see your story, it counts as a view, which is crazy.

I don't know if Instagram is ever going to fix that.

I don't think they really will.

I hope they don't.

Makes my numbers look better.

It's such a crazy

way of selling it.

And I was literally just sitting, I don't even know how I thought of it.

It's probably the smartest thing I've ever thought of in my entire life because it's such a different way of presenting it because you're giving these guys results.

You're guaranteeing results.

Yeah, because these guys aren't even pulling a thousand views.

So the fact that you come in there and say, yo, I'll get you 10K on the first video.

Exactly.

And if you buy a bigger pages, like bigger theme pages, repost their videos, and now you're guaranteeing $100,000 a video.

You get them on retainer because they're going to need you to get views.

You get them on retainer, like whatever, $3,000, $5,000 a month.

that's how i started buying off those big pages man no literally they were so cheap back in the day like when i was in college like six seven years ago now they're expensive like i've recently started buying a few different like hundred thousand follower theme pages they're like one thousand dollars seven hundred dollars yeah even more than that i'm like yeah they're getting up there and i used to be able to get shout outs dirt cheap like on WorldStar, I could get on there for like $2,500 back in the day.

No, literally, like at wealth is so expensive.

Oh, yeah.

I used to get that one dirt cheap, too.

$5,000 for a story post for a story for a story holy crap i know the kid that runs that that's crazy yeah he used to charge like 500 dude no they're expensive now yeah and uh i think daquan sold for like a hundred million bucks or something did you see that i haven't i didn't see that but i know a lot of these guys make a lot of money from these theme pages aj's partner audi he first was making money he was 16 he sold this theme page I think had like 1 million followers or more than that and he sold it for 100k chief at At 16.

I know a few kids that have sold for six figures.

Yeah.

I mean, it makes sense.

If you have the eyeballs and the right product, you'll make it back.

Easily.

Yeah.

Are you all in on IG right now in terms of the social media platforms?

Yeah.

I've been banned on TikTok like seven different times, each account over 50,000 followers.

Wow.

Like, I've been trying to get back on it, but it's such a different game now.

And

Instagram hasn't even been giving me a hard time.

Like, they're really calm when it comes to the whole rules and stuff.

It's the only thing is just people pay to get you banned.

Like, I literally got banned yesterday because there's a whole community like banning these finance influencers like myself.

Yeah.

And I just got my account back this morning, but it's just, it's just stupid.

Dude, I get texted daily about that, actually.

Yeah, it's dumb.

Yeah, because the WhatsApp chat of all the previous podcast guests, like someone in there daily is like, yo, I got banned.

I know.

It's so dumb.

It's so crazy, but I don't get that model like so they basically ban you and then what

well so the whole goal i honestly don't even really understand it myself but i guess they pay guys make livings off of banning people like they charge a couple hundred dollars um and whoever it may be pays to get me banned um

and it's that simple like i don't really understand the goal behind it at all but you know obviously some people are envious some people um

don't want to see others succeed whatever it may be um From what I've seen, it's okay.

So this is what I've seen a few times.

It's guys in like a third world country, so like India or something.

So like a hundred bucks there is actually a lot of money.

And they'll send you a DM saying, yo, I'm banning your account.

Here's my number if you want to get it back.

It's like this amount of price, like 100, 500 bucks, whatever.

And then they get banned.

And then I think they take the money and then reinstate their account.

No, yeah.

I've actually seen that.

One of my friends was like, the guy who unbanned his account, because I don't, for whatever reason, he got banned and and he paid someone else to unban it and the guy ended up banning his account again to get more money for yeah

that's not yeah usually the guys unbanning are the ones banning too yeah I mean honestly like it was kind of smart it's I hate making money unethically like I believe in karma so yeah I mean it's definitely gonna get back in him but as far as like the short term like it's it's it's it's a hustle like it's definitely a hustle and especially in a country like that they're actually probably balling out there with that money no 100 I mean there's no longevity in it but as far as you know some short-term money like a couple hundred bucks yeah whatever you travel a lot right now no literally i sit in my room all day like for the past couple months i've literally just been sitting in my room whatever working on different things um creating content this is the first time like um i've ever really traveled wow for for this type of stuff like that's why it's so kind of surreal even being here right now you're at the wind too bro that's like the nicest hotel in vegas it's crazy like I never thought like

posting videos on TikTok and Instagram would ever really get me anywhere.

Like I knew it would make me some money, but I never actually thought it would like amount to anything like real and like tangible.

And it's, I don't know, it's just so crazy to me still.

Well, you went about a smart man because a lot of people post and they're broke, but you figured out a way to monetize it.

Yeah, I know.

It's it's it's easy to not monetize and just post for fun because I mean, I post because I genuinely love content creation, but, you know, like I said, AJ is the one who really helped me monetize my stuff.

Yeah, dude, I know people with millions of followers that are broke, so no, yeah, my friend, the mindset guy, I don't know if you've ever seen him, Asian guy does the um street interviews, street interviews.

I've seen a ton of those, I don't know, yeah, he is like a million on Instagram, a million on TikTok.

He was making no money now.

He's doing super well, he's making a ton of money helping other um content creators go viral because he he kind of does a similar method I do, but um

no, yeah, a million followers and he was making a thousand dollars a month.

I think it was from sponsorships.

That's nothing, dude.

No, for sure.

For a million followers.

So what was that switch for him to start making money?

He talked to me.

Like, we became friends.

And I connected him with AJ, actually.

I know I'm kind of plugging him a lot, but he genuinely changed my life and my whole perspective on all of this stuff.

Damn.

And he met AJ.

AJ helped him monetize, helped him build out a good offer.

And yeah.

That's dope.

Do you and AJ live in the same area?

No, AJ lives in like South Carolina or something.

What the hell?

Yeah.

South Carolina.

No idea.

I did did not expect that.

No, yeah.

I've never heard of someone living there in our space.

No, yeah.

I feel like everyone is kind of relatively like in the same space, like whether it be like Florida or like LA or Miami's.

But yeah.

Miami, L.A., Vegas, maybe New York, sometimes somewhere in Texas.

But yeah, it's all the same places.

Yeah, exactly.

Do you ever want to move to like a big city?

I really want to move out as soon as possible.

Like, I don't, I've...

been reading a few things and it's like changing your scenery could really change like your horse perspective on everything and i feel like it's hard to really stay motivated and wanting to achieve something when you when you don't really have like um

whether it's like a burning desire or like a need to like you know i live in my parents house so like sometimes i get ripped like i get comfortable way too often right like complacent where i am like you know i could take the couple weeks off you know not post any content you know i really have no worries like i i made a decent amount last month so i could i could chill out yeah when i moved from jersey man because that's like a family state it's not really like a business entrepreneurial state that's where i grew up and i came to la and vegas my business to annexed no yeah because just who you're around and

i mean dude it's like i don't know what state you're in but in jersey i got made fun of for doing business entrepreneurship like people didn't support that but when you move to like la or vegas you just surround yourself with like-minded people yeah like surrounding yourself with people like that you'll become one of them you want to you want to achieve more like i've seen a bunch of people who move down to miami and you see a bunch of these nice cars.

It gives them that drive and motivation too.

Like, I live in a pretty quiet neighborhood in Florida.

Um, I go to a nice school, but it's not a lot of kids like me around in my area that do similar stuff.

Yeah, oh, you're in a private school, yeah.

I'm in a pretty decent private school.

Nice.

Is that have you ever done public school?

Or is it always no?

I've been in private school my entire life.

Damn, your parents know what they're doing, man.

You never had to go through the weird shit I went through.

You probably heard horror stories, though.

Public school is not a fun place.

Yeah, no, I hear it's bad.

Yeah, I'm only doing private or homeschool for my kids.

I mean, for real.

I mean, dude, you don't even want to know what they're teaching there.

So, any plans for college?

This has actually been on my mind for a while now.

Like, there's like this big, almost like

misconception going around, like, in this whole, like, teen entrepreneur space, like on social media, like, school and like college is like super stupid.

But I honestly, like, this one guy I talked to really changed my like mindset and like opinion on it because I don't know why I wouldn't go.

Like, if I'm learning more business, if I'm learning, you know,

just things that will help me in the future, like, why would I, why would I not go?

Like,

um, I know people go there and learn what they need and then they drop out, right?

Yeah.

But I only think it's really stupid to not go is if you're learning something stupid.

Like, if you're learning philosophy or like history or something, yeah, you're just wasting money, right?

But if you're, I feel like if I'm learning like business and stuff, like it could actually really help me in the future.

You'd have to do your research on the, like, the best business schools and make sure they're modern.

Cause when I went to learn business, they were teaching you how to like run newspaper ads and cold call and stuff.

Yeah, no, it's, it's hard, like, adapting to this new age and finding people who know that.

Yeah.

I mean, by that time, dude, you might be making millions too.

So it might be a totally different decision when you're 18.

Yeah.

Because you're only 14 making 15K a month.

So by then you might be making 100K a month.

hopefully i'm hopefully hopefully more i think you could do it man i mean you're running ads now too right

now i've just been doing straight organic because i used to do paid ads like on tick tock and stuff but i've seen organic is always going to be the best like even as far as outreaching you could tell when someone has a fake social media following yeah but like when you see someone who acts a genuine following um and have grown their account organically it especially what i'm doing i'm teaching other people helping other entrepreneurs go viral it just works out better you can't beat organic but I think ads are like supplemental.

They should never be the main focus.

Like, some people only focus on ads, and yeah, you can't really trust those guys.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Uh, Jake, it's been fun, man.

Where can people find you?

Um, you can find me on YouTube, Jake Sujanani.

You can find me on Instagram, Jake Sujanani.

Um, I'll have a TikTok back up and running soon.

Just keep an eye out on my story posts.

Cool.

We'll link it all in the video.

Thanks for coming on, man.

Appreciate you.

Yeah, thanks for watching, guys.

As always, I'll see you next time.