Serving in the Military & Recovering from PTSD I Robert Oberhofer DSH #366

A young man in high school at the time who was directly impacted by 9-11, it was easy to instill hate and agenda into my mind.

So I was the perfect soldier because I was so blind.

What are they going to think about me?

I'm going to die in a country fighting for something I don't even understand in a country that means nothing for me.

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so you've had quite the life, though, man.

I know your dad was in the military, right?

So you got raised in that environment.

He was in the military when he was younger, and then he got out, and because of his military service, he got the police job in New York City.

Yeah.

Which a lot of guys do.

A lot of military go into the police.

Yeah, I noticed that.

Why do you think that is?

I think it's just an easy transition.

The environment is much different, but it's also very similar, like the team environment.

There's a ranking system and, you know,

you're trained as well.

So you're used to being around some hardships, you know.

Yeah.

You made that transition too, right?

You were in the military, then you became an officer.

Yeah, when I first got out of, I was military police.

My dad was as well.

That's why I wanted to go into the police force because I was an MP.

Just seeing my dad grow up and like going to the softball games.

And people think cops, like my dad and his crew back in like the late 80s and 90s, like

if there were social media like there's today, these guys would all not have pensions.

Like they, they, they were more gangster than they were cops in North Jersey back in the 80s and 90s.

But I grew up around those guys.

It was my family.

Softball games,

birthdays, barbecues, parties.

And I just enjoyed seeing that camaraderie.

And I wanted that.

And then obviously 9-11 came, and I'm sure we'll get into that.

But yeah, I went into the police a few years after I got out of the army.

Wow.

So do you remember 9-11, like a vivid memory?

Yeah.

So I was in high school.

I was a sophomore.

Yeah.

And my dad is retired Port Authority Police.

They are like the bridges of the airports and they do emergency services, which is kind of like an emergency services truck has a team of almost like what firemen do.

So the ESU emergency services unit is the guys that have the jaws of life and they'll pull people out of cars.

And like if there's a guy that's trying to jump off the GW bridge,

they're the ones that go up and.

and kick them off the bridge, you know.

Yeah, they're the special unit to go to those type of things.

My dad always said, and he fully believes this, he always said if his team would have responded to Princess Diana's car crash,

they would have saved her.

Really?

How so?

Just the people that did respond, it took almost an hour for them to get her out of the vehicle.

And then

he said they would have had her out within minutes and over to triage.

Why'd it take an hour?

Was she stuck?

I believe she was in a tunnel.

I was young.

My dad was a big fan of her and what she was about, which many people were.

But she was yeah, in the car, and they didn't have the tools.

Like I just said, the Jaws of Life is basically a big pliers, and it's what can open up and rip doors off.

But yeah, I always remember that.

He said,

if I was in

uniform the day, Prince Day, and I got in a car wreck, my guys, we would have saved our life.

Wow.

Have you ever had to use the Jaws of Life yourself?

No, no.

I've seen them

be used.

Mostly firemen do that when I was on patrol as an MP.

And with the DOD, we didn't carry that type of life saving equipment yeah

but I have seen it in Germany with the Poles Eye I've responded to a motorcycle that went you know those like work trucks like you'll see like a plumber in yeah work vans yeah

yeah he went from the passenger side completely through the entire van

holy crap yeah it was just a complete uh mess that's insane so what was it like in germany you were there for what nine years no i was there i got there in august uh of 2006 after boot camp.

Boot camp in AIT, which is my, you go to boot camp for nine weeks, 10 weeks, and then you go to, I went to military police school, which is your advanced individual training.

Everybody goes to their MOS, their job-specific school.

After MP school, I went back to Jersey for a couple of weeks and like went to the Jersey Shore, thought I was hot.

You know, I'm an army soldier now.

I had like three or four grand in the bank.

I thought I was a puff daddy.

Good old Jersey Shore.

Yeah, we went to Seaside and Bel Mar and Janks and all that stuff.

So ratchet.

Yeah.

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and this was 06 and then i went to germany and i was in Germany for 18 months before we deployed to Iraq for 15 months.

But it was a really cool 18 months.

I still remember landing in Germany as a young soldier and getting to Frankfurt Airport.

And the biggest thing for me was that 90% of the taxis were Mercedes-Benz.

And all the license plates were super long compared to America.

And it's nothing now after being there, but

yeah, Germany was cool.

So no stress over there, but I'm sure Iraq was a whole different story.

Yeah, and originally I was,

you see,

I am the perfect,

I was the perfect incubator to instill hate into, being that my dad was in 9-11 and he lost his partner who worked his shift and 37 guys like on that shirt that I just brought you today.

Uncles to me, people I looked up to, they died when the towers dropped.

So

being a young man in high school at the time who was directly impacted by 9-11, it was easy to instill hate and agenda into my mind.

So I was the perfect soldier because I was so blind.

So when I did join the military, I was all for what I believe the war in Iraq was, fighting for democracy and our freedom in America, which I know now is

complete BS.

There's a quote from the movie

13 Hours in Benghazi.

He says, what are they going to think about me?

I'm going to die in a country fighting for something I don't even understand

in a country that means nothing for me.

Damn, that's deep.

It's like, but you don't know it in the moment.

No, I was just uh when did you come to that realization?

Was it after way after?

Way after.

Way, I was 20 in Iraq.

I'm 37 now.

I want to say the clarity came when I got sober five years ago and started to like forgive myself a little bit and try to do some self-help and

not

not hold it all in once i started to really seek what's going on inside of me as a war veteran who's dealt with homelessness and addiction and lost custody of kids and been to jail and i was just in that that that that cycle and i said i got to really identify why i'm in this position and that's when i realized like oh i got hate i got pain i got all this and i just started unloading it Wow.

You know, and then I figured like, I love everybody now.

So so chill, you know, you kept it bottled in for years.

It probably just started eating at you physically and mentally, right?

Oh, my goodness.

So, so many veterans deal with that as well.

Like,

I didn't know who I was, especially when I got out of the military.

A lot of soldiers, and that's why I'm soon, hopefully, going to start a community where I can kind of bring vets together, like for like a veteran mastermind type of deal.

That'd be sick.

Because

I...

No offense to college-educated people.

I envy those people.

You know, coming from Jersey, I had a lot of friends that went and got a degree at Rutgers or Hofster.

And I was like, like, man, I wish I had parents that had dinner every night on the table.

And I wish my mom wasn't gone and I could go get a college degree.

But I was like in an apartment selling with Pitbull with a crazy girlfriend, like waiting to go to boot camp with all these issues.

And I always envied those people.

But those are that type of person,

the veteran community needs someone like myself who's been.

through the jails, the institutions, the pain, the homelessness, the divorces, the loss of custody, because a college-educated professor who read a bunch of books, which is good, can't tell a vet who drinks himself to death every day and puts a gun in his mouth every night because he doesn't want to live anymore that they can help him because they don't understand it.

Yeah, the psychology professors you're talking about.

Yeah, or anybody.

I feel like, let's like, you ever like a gynecologist telling a woman, like a male gynecologist, I've seen it in person telling a woman, you're going to feel pressure today.

It's like, how do you know?

Yeah.

You know, so I think for me, I want to be a pillar to the veteran community community and I want to help bridge the gap between like the 22 vets today that are taking their life and the guys that are on the streets homeless and addicted and like figure out what it is and take it further than anyone's taking it.

Yeah.

So when you came back from serving, you were homeless for a little bit?

No, I got, I was homeless years later.

When I first came back, I went back to Jersey to my dad's.

Yeah.

He had a big house in Jackson right outside of freehold.

And

I was with a moving company for a little while and I was trying to find myself again.

I was a broker for insurance

and I was just like lost.

And I worked at Fort Dix as a contractor.

I worked with some Navy SEALs and Rangers and we did like rotations and got guys like soldiers prepped and ready to go to Afghanistan and Iraq.

They had to come through us for two weeks.

Like a boot camp.

Yeah, like a

qualifier.

So like they've already been trained.

They come to us and we have to let them utilize their tools and their training proficiently so we can say, check, you're good.

You know how to react to to a sniper or react to an IED.

And I enjoyed that because I felt like I was back with the guys and I was in uniform.

But then, no, I went to Texas.

And this whole time I'm falling deeper into addiction from pills from the VA.

Damn.

And didn't realize.

I was like, I'm an Army sergeant.

At the time, I was ripped and young.

And I'm like, I'm not like these guys over here.

I'm never going to get addicted.

Like, I'm just, I enjoy the feeling that I have from a Percocet.

And it's got my name on the bottle.

I'm not an addict.

Oh, damn, I didn't, I didn't fool anybody at the time except for myself.

So the addiction led me to be homeless years later when I went through like a psychotic break and ended up being escorted to the VA Psych Warg for a few days.

Damn.

Psych Ward, what was that like?

Well,

it's

the one thing.

that I will say that is very similar to like what you would see in a movie.

I watch a lot of war movies and it's complete

right.

That's what I thought.

Yeah.

It seems like a lot of cap in there.

It's it's complete BS.

But when I went to the VA psych warg, I was ready at that time.

And it may sound a little older the VA psych, I was ready.

The sheriff that came and picked me up was a former Army infantry staff sergeant.

And he said, like, are you ready to get help, man?

You're scaring your family.

I got served divorce papers in solitary confinement after I got told I'm never leaving the jail and I'm going to lose my kids while detoxing off of opiates alone in Texas.

That's rock bottom for you right there.

Rock bottom.

That must have been tough.

Why were you in solitary?

Because I was a former police officer.

Oh, so people would come at you?

Yeah.

Wow.

Eventually I said, I'm losing my mind.

Put me in population.

And because of the tattoos and my size, I had no issues.

Okay.

And I'm from Jersey and nobody knew.

Like nobody knew who I was.

Yeah.

But that's the type of story that can inspire a guy who's down and out right now and abusing drugs.

I I fully believe that there's millions of addicts right now that are this close to losing their family and they don't even know it.

And I've already lost so much.

I've lost the custody of my eight-year-old daughter, my boys.

Even though my life is getting much

is much better now, the pain that comes with losing so much due to addiction.

It's a lifetime of pain.

So I want to help people that are there and don't even notice it.

Yeah, you've been through it.

You can help these guys, man.

Yeah, yeah.

So you can't even talk to your kids.

No, so I used to have like supervised visitations, rightfully so at the time.

She was scared because I was such a nut.

I have a big mouth.

I talk a lot and I said a lot of scary things.

Never physically hurt anybody,

but she did the right thing.

And I think any woman who's scared of a man should go and seek help, whether it be family, the authorities, whatever.

If you feel scared, do not be too scared to go get help.

And that's coming from a guy who went to jail and lost everything because of my decisions but no uh i lost custody after seven years of fighting seven years yeah so from 2016 till a couple months ago so six years i've been having them held over my head and all the charges are dropped i have a concealed carry i might be a sheriff again everything's good build myself back but she used that against me all of those years and wouldn't let me see the kids and like i just couldn't keep a i couldn't afford to continue it so yeah so what's your advice for people going through custody stuff right now because seven years that must have been really stressful be respectful the one thing that was on my side was there was

over five years of text messages back and forth with my ex and I and the attorneys on both of our sides could not find one disrespectful text from me wow yeah so I was always be present be respectful

granted I I've said things off camera I've been very hurt by what happened, but I take a lot of ownership.

That's why I don't have too much hate.

You can't give people, you can't hate somebody that

would never have power to hurt you if you didn't give them the power.

If I didn't do drugs and lead up to the day where I

lost myself,

my kids wouldn't have been able.

to be taken from me.

So we have to take complete ownership in our actions.

It's the only way that we're going to progress.

I cannot point the finger at anybody but the guy in the mirror.

Granted, I shouldn't have had to fight for my daughter for six years, living in a camper trailer, going broke, taking loans, everything I can, just to be told you can't see her without the justice system doing anything to have the father's back.

That's a whole nother story.

But as the father and the man, if I didn't get high and give them the power,

they wouldn't have any.

Yeah.

We got to take ownership.

That's deep, man, because some people are afraid to.

I don't know if it's ego or something.

They're scared to be honest.

I mean, you have the biggest, one of the biggest shows in the world, you know, and that's why I'm being honest on here.

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Millions of people like me who went from being on top of the world and fit and like perfect credit and owning a house to like on the streets doing drugs,

losing themselves and getting in trouble.

But what they don't see is the guys that look like me speaking about how they were that guy.

Right.

You know, they don't see the sober guy that's in Vegas hosting shows and doing big things, being honest about where he was six years ago.

Yeah, people don't want to be vulnerable and admit they're at some low points.

Everyone has low points.

Yeah.

They're scared.

They're scared of their image.

I'm not.

I'm scared of not being honest.

And that

if I did not speak about my problems,

that I wouldn't save lives.

Like, I want to save people's lives.

If I could save one veteran's life by sharing my story and showing them, like, it's okay, that you can get sober, you can get a new life.

I did it, bro.

Like, you're not alone.

Then I don't care if other people judge me.

Like, screw you.

If you judge me, then.

I don't want to be your friend anyway, you know?

Yeah.

And it's a snowball effect.

You save one life.

Who knows what that guy's going to do with their life?

yeah that that's the goal i mean that's my next big thing starting the community with veterans and also maybe partnering up with like the ufc and maybe like the the a's are coming out here and and the hockey teams and um taking vets to events that

you know guys that don't even want to make their bed or be alive and then showing them like hey this is my boy sean kelly like just bringing people around positive people for an event so that they can see a different way of life do you think that's helpful for veterans a lot of them struggle mentally when they get back what do you think the ways to help them are?

Well, there's

two points to that.

I think the transition out of the military sucks.

They just throw you back.

Yeah, it's called ACAP, like an acronym for whatever doesn't work.

You know, like you'd be like, it's like two weeks and you're out of the military.

You turn in your gear, you go get checked by the doctor, you sign some papers, and nobody.

gets any service member ready for the transition from like being a squad leader one day to like just Bobby living at your dad's house the next day.

So you think it should be a longer transition period?

Yeah, I think it should be six to eight months.

Yeah.

Like a really,

and ensuring that there is support.

A lot of guys get out and they go, they don't have a home.

A lot of people go in the military because mom and dad work, not the mom and dad that they wanted to be around.

You know, it was their safe haven.

I've seen guys in jail that were like, I'd rather be in here than out there.

At least I'm getting fed and I can get my teeth worked on.

So

post-military, a lot of people like myself and just a lot of people in general,

in today's age, everybody cares about their image.

So what comes with that is people lying to not just themselves, but everyone around them about who they are, what they make, and how much stress they have and what's on their shoulders.

And that's when that spiral comes.

And before you know it, you're in a hole and you're on drugs or you're depressed and it's too late to ask for help.

People need to start saying,

brother, I am hurting today.

I need your help.

And on the other side, people today don't want to help.

Everybody's like, I love you, bro.

You're my bro.

And we're cool.

Like, oh, yeah, let's take a selfie and do some dope clips.

And like, they don't want to answer the phone if you call them on Tuesday.

Everybody's fake as hell.

It's bad.

I don't know if it's a West Coast thing or what.

We're both from Jersey.

Yeah, that didn't happen to me much in Jersey.

Ever.

Like, ever, yeah.

I still have boys from kindergarten.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And they're very straightforward, which I like.

but when i moved to la man god damn it was tough finding friends out there how was la you went there i went there from jersey like three years ago and i moved out in five months i couldn't take it yeah vegas is a little better there's pockets of good people here yeah vegas is i've never lived in la i lived in the bay but i've heard you know and i feel like vegas is my closest experience to like that la

everybody here just like using i i don't know and we've had these conversations behind closed doors like it's in this space it's it's unfortunate i fully believe there's enough to go around for everybody to win that's how i act too yeah most people don't they want to step on each other and and clout chase and it's short-term thinking yeah well i wonder i wonder why immediate gratification i don't know it feels better to win with your friends win with people yeah like why would you want to be successful alone Yeah, that's boring.

So boring.

Imagine going on vacation alone.

It's like, why am I even doing that?

Yeah,

that's such a good point.

People do it too.

I'm like, dude, it's way better with people.

Like, I'm going on a cruise.

I want all my boys there yeah well the other ones who they say the guy that's in starbucks by himself smiling is a serial killer so something like that you know

that's funny dude so what was tougher was prison tougher or being homeless

so

i would have to say being locked up because

homeless was self-influenced and Put on myself.

I always had the option if I decided to go to rehab or get sober that my father would help me.

A lot of people don't have that.

Right.

But I was just wasn't there.

I honestly didn't want to be alive.

You know Route 9 in Lakewood?

Yeah.

You know the Walmart?

Yeah.

I lived in that parking lot.

Really?

Yeah.

So you had a car?

I was living in a $42,000 Mustang.

And you didn't want to admit to your dad?

He knew everything.

I was just so gone.

Wow.

I just didn't.

You know, that's one thing.

When you lose your children and you get divorced and you lose your job and your house and your wife and your life,

and the only way to get your kids back is to get sober, but you've lost them through addiction.

It's very hard for people to say, all right, now I'm going to get sober because now everything that you cherished and loved has been ripped out of your life, and you feel hopeless even more.

Right.

So now, for me personally, I went even deeper.

I was like, well, now I lost anything that I even wanted to live for.

So

let's just end it.

That's good.

And I just went back to Jersey and went to Trenton every day and picked up

and snorted it and hoped I didn't wake up, but I kept waking up.

That's insane.

So you're here for a reason, then.

Yeah.

I'm here literally.

I can feel it in my soul.

22 vets a day.

I have it on my wrist.

Yeah.

I have never met anyone that hasn't

smiled when they're around me.

That's awesome.

And I feel like it's a gift.

I have to save some lives.

That's all I want to do.

I don't care about the fame.

I don't care.

Granted, I want to get my community bigger because I can impact more people.

But a lot of people just want all this for the wrong reasons.

Terrible reasons, man.

Yeah, I'd rather take longer.

It shows.

I mean, it shows in their character.

Yeah.

When they're just after money or fame.

Like you could tell.

How are you?

How did you learn?

And I don't ask you questions on the wrong show, but like at your age, did you have any like big mentors?

Like coming from someone who's now newer in the, in the social media, I've certainly learned from you in the last couple of months.

Yeah.

Like how did you get to the pinnacle at your age?

Yeah, I'd say a lot of mentorship.

I'd say I'm really quick at learning, and I'd say I'm just like a good person that's simple as that dude like i don't try to take advantage of people so all the energy i'm putting out is good and it's coming back to me tenfold you know what i mean that yeah i got sounds simple i agree i do the same yeah yeah i never walk i don't have to walk around looking over my shoulder because i'm just no why would you want to sleep at night scared yeah like i want to sleep at night knowing i'm doing everything i can especially when everything's recorded now yeah your whole life is recorded because you can't do they canceled uh kevin hart 13 years later or something right yeah oh he just got canceled?

Well, like a couple year ago or so, he was going to do the Oscars.

Oh, yeah.

And he brought up a tweet from like 2013 or something.

Yeah.

But even my old tweets, I mean, I'm sure there's some weird ones, but the lingo changes.

You know, growing up in Jersey, we would call people certain names that these days you get canceled for.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, definitely.

I know what you mean.

Yeah.

Jersey was brutal.

I miss it.

I'll be there in a few weeks.

I'm hoping to go

on Jay Wilsax.

I'm friends with Roger Matthews.

I'm hoping to go on his podcast and go to the Jersey Shore and do all that stuff.

It's always got a place in my heart.

I mean, it was an interesting time period going up there.

What were you like in school?

Were you like

top of the pack?

In the crew I was in, I thought I was, you know, my ego is huge and I thought I was the cool kid.

But even then, at 16, when 9-11 hit, my dad was engaged to a woman who ended up marrying.

So they sold the house I grew up in.

Okay.

And we moved in with her.

But her and I didn't get along.

along so they

got me my own apartment basically kicked me out

yeah so at 16 i was living on my own too that's pretty cool actually it was cool but um you'd have parties i yeah but you know it got lonely right right you know because she's 16 and there was no my mom we didn't really speak she's in new york and my dad was sick because of 9-11 on all these pills and like drinking himself to death and his wife at the time hated me so i was like i had this amazing apartment at the regency club off of county line road in jersey but uh that's similar to Tony Hawk.

Tony Hawk had his own house in high school at the time.

Yeah.

I have a lot of parties.

Why didn't you like your dad's girlfriend at the time?

I don't think it had anything to do with her.

I think it was just me.

I had a lot of anger.

Interesting.

My mom was gone, and my grandma raised me with my dad.

Pretty strict

Catholic woman from Brooklyn, New York.

And I didn't want to move.

I was mad at the world.

I didn't understand what just happened to my dad, that all his friends just died.

Oh, he didn't tell you?

I mean, I didn't know at the time.

No, I just knew, like, hey, now all of a sudden, because the thing on the TV happened, we have to sell a house that we grew up in.

Wow.

Like, I resented them.

And

yeah, I know, I was hurt.

So I rebelled.

Yeah, because moving as a kid, you got all your friends there.

It must have been tough.

I mean, my whole life, 15 years, I lived in that house.

And then we're going to some woman's house that I wasn't a huge fan of anyway.

Well, I was lucky, though.

The first day I lived there before I got kicked out and got an apartment.

I went to the school bus stop.

My friend Dave Gallipoli was my best friend growing up.

His dad,

his mother, actually.

Jeez.

He's probably going to kill me for saying this, but yeah.

His dad is his dad was a correctional officer and his mom like 25 times and went to prison.

Crap.

She survived that?

She survived.

They actually got back together years ago.

No way.

Yeah.

But they couldn't afford the big house that they used to live in.

So they bought this tiny little house across the street from the house that I moved into with my dad and his fiancé.

Wow.

So I go to the school bus, stop like at the end of the driveway, and I'm like, is Dave?

And he's like, Bobby?

And I'm like, what the f?

And yeah, so that helped.

So I hung out across the street a lot until I got my apartment back.

Nice.

You still talk to him?

Not as much.

He's pretty deep in addiction, and I don't really talk to anybody I used with.

Oh, I have a love for everybody, but that's another thing.

When they say people, places, and things, it may sound cliche.

You have to change if you want to change.

You have to leave the the environment you're in.

You have to change the relationships you have with just not just yourself, but everyone around you.

You cannot change your physiology and your mindset and your body and your drug use if you stay in the same exact environment.

That's true.

And sometimes when you try to help them, it drags you back in, right?

Yeah.

So I just, I have a lot of love for everybody.

But like we talked about earlier, everybody kind of came out of the, everyone was like, Nobody helped me when I was really down.

And now that I'm hosting a show in Vegas and going to UFC events and doing cool stuff, everybody wants to be my friend.

They're hitting you up.

Yeah, I went through a down moment last year, and I really found out my true friends, man.

And I can count them on one hand, which is fine.

Most people think they have tons of friends, but you won't know until you go through a rock-bottom moment who your real friends are.

Yeah, I definitely have like five, six.

Yeah, but honestly, that's all you need.

You don't need tens of friends.

I mean, I could, I have, I could have thousands of acquaintances.

Yeah.

Just have acquaintances and just be good to everyone.

You only need like a few good people you could talk to.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Happy Dad.

Happy Dad.

Are you

up on all the Happy Dad stuff with the Nilk Boys?

Yeah, I'm a fan of them.

I think what they're teaching about health is powerful.

You saw Kyle's calculation.

Yeah.

And that's inspiring to kids.

He's got millions of people following him looking at that.

Yeah, Kyle's,

he's an interesting gentleman.

I'm proud of them.

I've seen what they've gone from to where they're at now.

But happy dad,

I love happy dad.

And like I said, I'm sober.

I don't do drugs or anything, but I don't go to meetings.

I don't count days.

I'll have a beer once or twice a month or at dinner.

But I was with Steve Will Dewitt, and Steve convinced my dad to drink some Happy Dad at the USC VIP.

And now my dad loves Happy Dad.

I was with Steve.

Steve Will Doit the night he got choked out with Steve-O.

Oh, I saw that.

Yeah, I was caged.

I was going to leave, and Steve Will Doit's like, hey, Bobby, don't go.

I'm about to get choked out.

And I went out there and it was like, Steve will do it, Steve-O in the Octagon.

I saw that.

That was nuts.

Yeah, I had

a video of it for days.

They were were like, don't post it.

I don't think I could do that.

No?

No, could you?

I'd rather do that than drink pee.

I think I drink pee, bro.

Hope we're getting choked out.

But dude, it's been fun, Rob.

Anything you want to close off with or promote?

No, I just want to say I'm proud of you.

I've been on you a short amount of time, but you do remind me of my friends back home.

You're just who you are and you don't let other things get in your way.

And that should show a lot of people, like,

just because you're at a certain level doesn't mean you need to be a

for sure.

And I think you're teaching people by your actions, you know.

And I like that a lot.

I met Robin Williams and I guarded him in Iraq with our platoon, and he always said we all put our socks and shoes on the same way.

So just always start with love.

I love though.

He was the most famous person in the world.

Yeah, he was a beast.

Thanks for coming on, man.

Thanks, bro.

Build it.

Thanks for watching, guys, as always, and I'll see you tomorrow.