Making Millions with Crypto, Positive Mindset and Trading Algorithms | Robert Miller DSH #320

But I think those two are some of the higher ones that are up and coming in regards to getting market adoption and getting some traction.

So when there's a hype cycle around them, they typically do better than a five or 10x.

Yeah, guys, get ready for this bull run because I remember waking up on some days during the last bull run and I'd literally wake up to like 20, 50, 100K gains just from sleeping.

Like it was that nuts.

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All right, guys, I'm here with Robert J.

Miller all the way from Miami.

How's it going, my man?

Going good, man.

Thanks for having me on.

Yeah, it's exciting times with another bull run coming up, crypto.

Oh, absolutely.

2024 is going to be just insane, bro.

I don't know if people are really ready for it or if they understand what's going on.

Yeah.

But it's going to be a big run.

I'm positive.

Do you think this one will eclipse the last one?

Absolutely.

You got institutions knocking on the door, BlackRock Fidelity and all the other ones that are kind of secondary to them, but they're all knocking at the door, trying to get this ETF through.

And so by the beginning of January, boom, that cap gun's going off and it's a, it's a run for the races here.

Absolutely.

So what's typically been your crypto strategies when there's upcoming bull runs?

Yeah.

So there's a couple.

couple main things in crypto that I think if you haven't been through a cycle or two, that there's a there's a trend that typically happens where money goes into Bitcoin first and then it goes into the alternative caps and the alternative coins as you go down.

So I love going into Bitcoin and just having a big portfolio associated there.

And then all the gambling that I'm doing or whatever will go into those other coins and then shift back into Bitcoin.

And so just knowing when to exit those based off of the cycles of capital and how it flows to the system, that's kind of what I look for over there.

Yeah.

So if you look at a pie chart, you would say Bitcoin is what percent of your portfolio?

I would say it's about 40% of the portfolio.

And I think it's smart to have it that way because that should be your long-term holds.

Like you shouldn't just be gambling on Bitcoin all the time.

I think you should just have a whole long-term strategy in your portfolio and then have a separate portfolio for the gambles and trying to get either more Bitcoin or just take out some profits along the way.

I think the altcoins are where you see the crazy returns though.

Oh, yeah.

And without any leverage, you can do a thousand X or 100X or whatever, which is pretty crazy.

Not.

Because in stocks, I mean, it's all penny stocks and you have to have the liquidity there and it's kind of hard to do.

So I think this whole run is going to be insane.

We're going to see a lot of projects pop for sure.

Is there any upcoming projects that you have an eye on right now?

You know what?

I've been really looking at Casper.

I think think a lot of people have in the crypto space, looking at that.

Bit tensor.

There's a few others that I know are staples that have been throughout the crypto cycles that tend to get volume.

And those are good four to 7Xs, just kind of guaranteed.

But I think those two are some of the higher ones that are up and coming in regards to getting market adoption and getting some traction.

So when there's a hype cycle around them, they typically do better than a 5 or a 10X.

Yeah.

Guys, get ready for this bull run because I remember waking up on some days during the last bull run and I'd literally wake up to like 20, 50, 100k gains just from sleeping.

Like it was that nuts.

And if this one's, you're saying going to eclipse that one, because I think Ethereum hit 4K on the last one.

Yeah, I think it'll hit 12 at least on this one.

Jesus, yeah.

And Bitcoin hit 60 on the last one, right?

60, yeah, 67.

I think that'll go, depending on how this whole BlackRock deal hits, I think it'll go anywhere between 80 to 110.

On the high end, probably around like 150.

Wow.

Yeah, that's exciting.

I got a lot of Ethereum.

So you're like, I'm hoping for 120.

I held the whole way down.

All my friends, not all of them, but a lot of people got emotional.

And this is the thing with crypto.

Yeah.

It's more volatile than anything in the world.

So like people get too emotional.

They check their balances every hour.

Even my mom, like she folded, like she paper-handed her bags at a loss.

And it's like, you got to have discipline.

Yeah, absolutely.

And also, this is where like the level up of crypto is coming with these institutions coming in.

People not understanding their cost basis or understanding that if I bought at 60K and I wrote it all the way down to 20, for example, I can buy it again at 20 and that averages out it down to 40.

Michael Saylor.

Yeah, exactly.

Everyone called him an idiot.

If you DCA through those cycles, your cost basis is lower.

And with all of these institutions coming in, it's going to create a relative price floor because they're all buying it.

Right.

So where you get this opportunity uniquely to kind of front run what they have going on.

So.

Yeah.

No, literally everyone on Twitter was roasting Saylor the whole way down.

He was buying.

And people were like, this is either going to be the dumbest move of all time or the best.

I think it's probably one of the best moves.

I'm legendary.

He's already up i mean from here it's just gains absolutely it's crazy um and the more you look into the dollar the more you realize crypto might be better well that's where i first started when i was like 17 18 i got into crypto and i learned all about crypto and the depegging of you know

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US dollar against all the different assets that we have.

And I learned that before I learned traditional finance.

So I went down this whole rabbit hole and it was kind of back then in 2015, 2016, kind of like a niche thing.

Like a lot of people weren't really talking about it at that extent.

And I went down this rabbit hole and I came out looking like a Senko at the end of it, dude.

I was like, the whole dollar is going to crash.

And so I think it's funny when people finally take that orange pill, as they call it, for Bitcoin.

Yeah.

There's no other asset that they typically love afterwards.

Loss, you've been on this wave early because I haven't heard of the dollar crashing until recently, but you were on it in 2016?

Yeah, I mean, I was still like 19.

I didn't think of it in macroeconomic terms and stuff like that.

But I understood that, hey, the US dollar can get printed and this is fine.

Like I understood at least that concept.

But and then the power of being able to move money around without intermediate.

So that's cool.

What's the safest way to buy and store crypto in your opinion?

I think for long-term holds, the best and easiest way to store your crypto is through a multi-sig wallet and use a third-party custodian as the third key, like Unchained Capital, one of my favorites.

Not a plug for them.

I don't have an affiliate link.

But basically, if you have two sets of hardware keys and they have the third, in case you lose one or whatever the case is, you can have a multi-signature wallet in order to approve a transaction.

So it's offline.

You have some security and some safety.

That setup allows you to pass it down generation to generation.

And also with trusts and IRAs, you can actually play that game by having that structure.

Yeah.

Let's talk about how you made money to invest in crypto.

What were some of the businesses you did along the way?

Yeah.

So I first actually got started in crypto, but when I made my first jump, I spent like 1500 bucks on alternative coins.

Yeah.

It pumped up to like a quarter million bucks.

Damn.

Within like three or four months.

That's crazy.

And I was like, what the hell?

I'm 19 years old.

I was just working part-time jobs and doing all this.

And that totally changed my paradigm.

But the funny thing is that I had a lot of like constraint once that happened.

I didn't know what to do.

So I bought a bunch of courses, invested in a lot of mentorships and masterminds.

And that's how I got into marketing, built a personal brand around crypto, had my own courses, books, and all that stuff.

And then ended up actually starting my own agencies afterwards.

So it's been a digital marketing kind of launch and catapult when it comes to how I got started.

And then since then, I've just built businesses in the e-commerce space, agency space.

And now we even have our own trading algorithms and we're building that side of our business.

And we have a fund in 2024 that we're launching.

So it's kind of spidered into multiple things after I learned marketing.

Yeah.

Talking about the fund, is it a crypto fund?

Yeah, it is a crypto fund.

So we have some proprietary tech in that, and that's our trading algorithms.

40% of our allocation is typically Bitcoin.

And then there's an allocation specifically for mid and small caps.

So choosing different coins that might pop.

But then we have a trading algorithm that we use.

And that's really the secret sauce for us.

Yeah, talking about the trading AIs, because that's something I've been hearing more and more.

How do those work?

Yeah, so

the softwares have to be developed if you are going to actually purchase one for that particular industry.

So, like a lot of people will take a Forex algo and slap it on the crypto market.

They're two totally different markets.

One can do high-frequency trading, the other one can't because the liquidity is not there.

So, specifically in crypto, because it's super volatile and there's not all this money in one place,

that's why a lot of quote-unquote algos from Forex or equity strategy going into that don't fully pan out.

But algos, I mean, Ray Dalio just said it this past week that if you are not using algorithms in your trading strategies, it is archaic and you are incompetent basically

for not having this and thinking that the only decisions that can be made in trading should be in your head.

Like you have to use computers and algos to find trends and make trades.

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I was asleep, dude.

Like I wasn't watching these trades and stuff.

And it's just because crypto moves so fast and it moves 24-7 that you have to have something to help you catch these trends or get out of certain things that there's a bad position happening.

So that's cool.

The algo could identify that this might crash and it got out.

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, that would have been hard to like pick up on with the human eye, probably.

Yeah, absolutely.

You have to be at the right exchange at the right time, looking at it, putting in the seller limit orders.

I mean, it's not even a job that I want to have

on that scale.

If I'm looking at it, and even in Forex, high-frequency trading is so common on small, tiny adjustments with max leverage, that's where people make a lot of their money.

So even that game, I'm like, eh, that doesn't really excite me.

I've tried Forex trading algos.

I got wrecked.

Some of them work for a while, but then there's always some unpredictable thing that's not built into the AI that just wipes out your whole account.

You know what I mean?

Absolutely.

That's the double-edged sword of leverage.

So we don't use leverage on our trading algos, but leverage could be good.

It could be bad.

Just depends on what side you're on.

It's good until it's not, right?

Exactly.

What kind of gains have you been seeing with the crypto auto trader?

Yeah.

So our trading algorithm so far, year to date, has done about 142%.

Damn.

And that's secured profits.

So

it changes every single month basically on what's happening in the crypto market.

But last year during a bear cycle, it did 143% secured profits.

Year before in a bull bull cycle, it did about 202.

Dude.

So that's amazing.

We've had this thing for about four years now, and we've been working on the fund for about two years.

And then we feel that it's the best time right now to go to market with it.

We built a whole sick portfolio dashboard and web app for people to actually sync it up.

And what's really cool is that we don't actually take custody of the funds.

That's cool.

And that's a big, big, big, big thing because you sync it up to your exchange.

There's no software you got to download.

It's like seven clicks to get it set up.

And, you know, we built that and I built that coming from the marketing background.

How do I make this as simple as possible and dummy proof?

So people can set it up and forget it.

Sign me up, dude.

That's 10, 15% a month.

Yeah, we'll get you an account.

Yeah, passive income.

What's the minimum you require from investors?

So for our fund, that's different because we take from accredited investors.

We help take their portfolios and actually allocate it.

So because of our allocations, our minimums are at least 100 grand for accredited investors and up.

For the actual algo, if someone's just licensing it from us, there's a licensing fee.

But you can put in 10 grand, you can put in 100 grand, you can even put in a million dollars on that account if you wanted to.

And so as long as the exchange that you want to work with is supported through the program, then you're fine.

And what pairs is it trading?

Bitcoin and USDT or any other stable coin that you want, either USDC, BUSD, and USDT.

Oh, so just Bitcoin?

Yep.

Wow.

Yeah.

So most volume is going into Bitcoin anyways.

Yeah, yeah.

It goes into Bitcoin, then it trickles down to all the other things.

So if it goes into Bitcoin, let's just focus there.

Facts, yeah.

What's the daily volume on Bitcoin right now?

I don't know.

Off the top, it's got to be.

yeah, it's got to be insane.

Yeah.

Because I know the daily volume on gold when we were doing Forex was, I believe, in the billions.

It was crazy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, with the institutions coming in, we're going to see numbers in Bitcoin that we haven't seen prior.

Yeah.

So I'm excited for that.

And that's going to come out around January 10th or so.

Yeah.

What's your opinion on Bitcoin mining?

I like it.

I like Bitcoin mining.

For two reasons.

One, if you're investing into it, you can get the depreciation, the write-offs of it, right?

So that's one side.

And then second, if you have a longer-term outlook on it, depending on who you're working with or if you're doing it yourself,

that ROI is typically between two and a half to three years.

So if you look at it compared to other investments, maybe like real estate and stuff like that, it's just in a completely different ecosystem.

It's pretty comparable.

Yeah, it's definitely quicker.

Real estate's more just like preserving wealth, in my opinion.

Yeah.

It's tough to make money quick, unless you're a card owned with a huge fund or something.

Yeah, absolutely.

If you're attempting just to gather a bunch of real estate assets, then you have to go the fund route.

You have to go raise money and just bring all those assets under management.

If you're doing the crypto route, I mean, you can do the small stuff where you can do Bitcoin and have more of a long-term outlook.

Yeah.

So how much are you trying to raise with the fund?

So our target right now is anywhere between 50 to 100 million.

Wow.

We do have some soft commitments already.

And so when this is live, we'll see where we're at.

That's awesome.

And will that impact the return percentages wise because you're trading a lot more volume?

Yeah.

So whenever you have more to deploy, that's a really good question because when you have more to deploy, you have to see the exchange volumes that are occurring, where you're placing that capital.

So we have some institutional accounts with some of the exchanges, domestic and overseas.

And so we follow where the liquidity lies for the manual trades and stuff like that.

We know for our algorithm where that's trading.

We know the institutional account.

We already have the connections there.

So we're going to be pretty solid there.

That makes sense.

You mentioned earlier you were taking a bunch of courses and books.

Any of them stand out to you?

Oh, yeah.

When I first got started, I mean, I was investing into basically anything and everything, man.

My mindset was broken.

My attitude was broken.

I lacked skill sets as well.

So if you're trying to go in that order for me, the first book that I loved reading was As a Man Thinketh by James Allen.

The next was Beyond Positive Thinking by Dr.

Robert B.

Anthony.

And then to learn some more skill sets tactically was dot-com secrets.

I mean,

that was the best internet marketing book.

And I still think it's probably the best internet marketing book.

Taking this whole concept of funnels and distilling it down and allowing people to really pop out of it.

I mean, it's done a lot for people.

Dude, that's crazy to make $1500 into $250K in three months.

I mean, your whole world was rocked.

Yeah, insane.

I I mean, I grew up single child, or not single child, actually one of five, but I was the baby.

So it was like 12, 13 years in between us.

So I didn't really have like siblings and all that.

Something like that.

Yeah.

So I was a, I don't call it an only child.

I call it a single child because of that.

And, but we grew up, mom was making like 30K a year just north of LA.

So, you know, we didn't have money.

We didn't have all that kind of stuff.

And so to see that happen within a short amount of time, make more than my mom would make in a few years,

that completely shifted my whole paradigm.

And so that's why I had to go invest in that capital into courses and mentors.

And I'm an internet baby, dude.

I went through courses, mentorships, programs.

Some were great, some sucked, but I just kept going over and over and over through them.

Dude, that's cool to see you do that because most people in that situation would have blown the money.

Yeah.

Like easily.

Because

when you get that much money, like you see this with lottery winners, they just, most of them, like 80% of them blow it within a year.

Yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely.

And I think what's funny about that too is, is there's always the old saying of, you know, if you gave everyone in the world all the money that they wanted, it's all going to return back to the same pockets.

We literally saw that experiment happen in

where we had all this free money come out and then it all just went back to the same company.

So like it's a tried and true principle.

If you're not ready to receive, then you can't actually multiply and be blessed with that.

And I'm a big firm believer in the Bible, the parable where, hey, if you're given talents and you can't multiply them, they're going to get taken away from you.

I love that.

So what caused you to move from Cali to Miami?

So actually there was a couple steps between, but from Cali during the pandemic and stuff, I moved over to Austin, Texas.

And I was traveling to LA and Miami all the time, like just non-stop.

So even though I was in Texas, probably there for maybe a third of the time that I was actually staying there in time, you know, so, but I kept flying out to Miami.

And so I was like, dude, I'm tired of having to do all these trips and everything like that.

It gets exhausting after a while.

So I just went and moved to Miami, got a spot downtown in Brickle, and we're setting up shop.

I like Brickle, man.

My best friend moved there when we were right after college, and it's a good vibe.

Yeah, it's cool.

And I like it too because whenever I move to a city, I mean, I lived in San Diego, I lived in Texas or Austin, Texas, and I've lived in Miami.

I always love moving into the downtown area first, even though I really like my peace.

I really like my quiet.

I don't like all the

noise and everything.

I like moving there first because you get the best networking when you move to a downtown area.

You get to expand what you thought was possible.

I mean, in Miami, you just see all the Lambos driving down.

It's not even cool to have a Lambo down there anymore.

So like it just expands the levels of thinking that you should have.

And then also, I I mean, if you move downtown, there's typically a different level of expenses that come with it.

And so it helps you elevate that as well.

And so, you know, if you ever do go move outside of downtown and you go to some rural area.

you already have a certain base and a certain mindset about what's actually required.

So I think that's probably the path that I'll take is at some point move back to Texas and start a family and do all that out there.

Same.

Yeah.

That's how I feel with the podcast.

I got to stick in a major city for now, but eventually I do want to like live on a farm or something.

Yeah, me too.

Do regenerative farming, man, get a whole kind of set up, grass-fed, grass-finished, grass-finished, grass-to-everything.

I love that stuff, bro.

I'm super into health.

Is that a big part of your life, too?

Just recently, man, I really started getting into the biohacking kind of space a little bit.

I'm not a biohacker fully, but I've been doing some peptides.

I've been doing, you know, the whole blood works, the panels, the 10x health system.

I've been doing all that stuff.

Yeah.

Dude, that's life-changing.

Yeah, man.

I feel, one, I feel a lot better, but two, there's actually a path for my health forward.

I was telling you prior that my brother actually had stage four cancer, and my family had some history with that prior as well.

And so for me, I was like, as soon as I make money, man, I'm making sure that my health is pristine, that I do everything that I can now.

So that way, it either elongates my cycle or I just don't have to experience any of that stuff, you know.

So, for me, it was really a big, prominent thing this year.

I started to feel it.

You know, I was grinding for so long at 25.

I was like, all right, I got to start.

It takes a toll on you, man.

That's stress.

Yeah, silently.

Dude, especially all the travel and everything, man.

I was like, I got to take care of my body.

Yeah, I think traveling, something about being on the flight, it makes your immune system a little weaker.

Oh, does it?

Yeah.

So whenever I travel, I take a ton of vitamin C and a ton of other supplements oh smart i used to get sick every time i flew dude you don't get sick on flights no i dude i rarely get sick wow i have a good immune system i get a bunch i get dehydrated all the time i went up in the air but yeah that's bad that's a whole other story i'm avoiding plastic water bottles now so if the airport doesn't have it i just don't drink oh wow yeah

there's levels to the health thing i mean there's guys drinking their own pee you could take it pretty far i saw that dude and i met that guy in person by the way jonathan dude one of the things that he said and it cracked me up sorry to blow up the spot but he said that you could put it in your hair, you could shower with it, and it stops like dandruff or whatever.

Bro, I saw dandruff in his hair at the time.

I don't know.

I'm just saying, bro, I was like,

that wasn't convincing to me.

I'm sure it has other health benefits.

I'm not going to do it.

I'm fine.

But I was like, bro, like,

I see it, dog.

I see it.

Did he make you touch his face?

Dude, no, I just,

his face was glowing.

I'm not going to lie.

Like, he had

this hue around him, but I don't know what that's all about.

There's levels, man.

Yeah, I'm at a comfortable level right now.

You're not drinking your own piss yet?

No.

Okay.

And you could be that annoying guy that brings like chicken and rice to the restaurant and a food scale.

I'm not at that level either.

I mean, respect to each, their own.

Sure, sure.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I mean, a lot of the times it's just like when someone goes down that rabbit hole, they find knowledge that's so specific to them as well.

Like what works for them or what doesn't work for them, just because it works for someone else doesn't even work for you.

Yeah.

So whatever makes you happy, man, you know.

But I think being unhealthy is not a place where you could be happy.

So.

Yeah, man.

I think it's so crazy what's in our foods with like fast foods and i grew up on that when i was a kid right because we didn't have much um and even then you know craft mac and cheese one dollar box i used to eat those too the blue ones yeah dude they were i mean they were fire they were slamming yeah dude i would have that with hot dogs man a weird combo but cuffed noodles dude it would slap yeah chunky soups you have to ever eat those yeah yeah clam chowder one yeah it's like all that stuff just filled with all these preservatives and all this uh you know yellow 40 or whatever all the sodium i'm just like god man like yeah what was like eating and you were pooping then too right oh yeah so you were playing on a

that's how i was too yeah i was a runner i was a hooper and i look back at what i ate and i was still pretty good but imagine if we ate healthy we would have been playing like d1 probably yeah if you got like a medium rare ribeye steak as a 10-year-old playing basketball or something no but i think it's funny because You know, I play a lot of different sports.

I played basketball, football, I did a lot of different sports.

And dude, you just burn it off so quick.

It's insane.

So you can literally eat whatever just kind of up but as a kid you can eat anything that's true and you're kind of fine you don't feel it yeah these days though when you eat like like when you have some seed oils at a restaurant you feel it oh yeah instant and and and it is kind of the levels of the game kind of thing with the health but you instantly feel it the next day you're like oh dude i shouldn't have ate that or like even if it's a mental thing you still feel it no for sure um what are you doing outside of business these days dude you know what i've been really focusing on a couple things one being health

but two uh you know i really really enjoy riding my motorcycle.

Okay.

I just picked one up when I was in Texas and man, the

roads out there, you can go see ranches, go across the lake, like all that stuff's beautiful, man.

And I was never a bike guy.

Like, I did ATVs and stuff like that as a kid, but

dude, there's something about like a meditative state when you're riding your motorcycle that

I experienced and that's what made me addicted to it.

And so I think, you know, not necessarily to do it forever, but I think every entrepreneur and every guy should actually go through that process of getting a bike going through the process of having to understand how to ride those yeah um and there's different levels to the bikes and stuff as well but it allows you to detach and i think as an entrepreneur you get so stuck at having to think through so many different things sometimes your mind can race right so i was on this challenge to find what can i actually focus on that you know didn't require me to also balance thoughts of business.

So the motorcycle is one.

And then I started picking up Krav Maga as well.

What's that?

Krav Magaw is like a form of martial arts, but it's what the Israeli military force uses.

So it's a lot more lethal.

So it's not like, hey, I'm going to wrestle you for 10, 20 minutes and we're going to play tag.

It's not that kind of sh ⁇ .

It's like, hey, we're in a fight.

I'm going to try and end it in like 30 seconds.

Damn.

It's, yeah, it's kind of cool.

And so in Texas, what they do, there's this, there's this training that you can do that mixes and interweaves concealed carry and rifles with Krav Magaw.

So you can go full out, full tactical, and do all the specs with the guns and all that and interweave it with your fighting style and it's really cool dude that is dope i'd rather learn that than karate because i did karate for years oh yeah i can't remember a single move yeah yeah

let alone a move that could be actually useful in a one-on-one fight yeah that's something that's actually important for for krov like it's to get in and to get out it's not to stay in the fight whereas like with bjj or with uh is going for submission karate's going for the point system boxing going for the point in the knockdown like i felt like some of them that i've i've tried were a little bit more gamey yeah and like for sport and that's cool but at the same point like i want to know how to actually protect myself i want to know if gonna hit the fan like i got it covered because i'll give you real life confidence oh yeah absolutely dude and it it does give you a lot of

both things the motorcycle and you know crav and all because people will be talking on the basketball court and it'd be nice to have that in your arsenal just giving a nice little elbow but like to the throat instead of to the rib yeah so what are the common moves is it all targeting like weak points like throat so crav is very striking focused um but it's it's not a uh it's a lot elbows and of fists okay rather than kicks like muay thai um it does have a lot of grappling involved as well but the whole point of crav is solely to and if there's krav experts and i up sorry but uh the the whole point is to get you to a point where i can control your your your neck or your arm okay because of that then i can actually defend from a knife attack or i can defend from you know your gun being pulled i can pull the gun from you right um so it's a lot more of stopping the arms and really getting in there and trying to give you some blows interesting yeah have you ever had to use it in real life uh not in real life but i've done some sparring with it and not sparring is different in crav at least the way that we were doing it out in texas i don't know where it's like usually but the uh the the style of krav like you don't go with like a bunch of pads and all this stuff like you have to do the drills to get to the outcome so if you got to drop someone you got to drop them like there's no if ands or buts and i think what's cool about that is that if it's not in a you know padded area with all these pads and all this kind of stuff like you actually have to learn the leverage because it's very intimate when i go for like a seatbelt grip on you or something like that it's like in your body i have to know how your weight moves um and i think it's just something that everyone should do just because you get to learn the mechanics of the body kind of like jiu-jitsu yeah that makes sense man you're making me want to like look into fighting more to be honest because it's a good skill to have for sure yeah you should man and i think there's again there's levels to it i'm not going to go fight every single weekend i joined the the crav club or whatever for a little while but I was like, all right, I got enough.

You got what you needed.

I got what I needed.

I'm not trying to go spar for my entire life.

You know, as entrepreneurs, we can go do other things that make not only more money, but more sense for our brains.

But yeah, I think it's definitely something each guy should do.

What's your favorite fighting sport to watch?

Dude, I like UFC.

UFC is cool.

Boxing is okay.

I just don't like the whole point system with it.

I just want to see how athletes should actually compete in that sport.

So I like UFC more.

I don't really watch too much sports, though, to be honest.

Like, I think just playing sports for so long, you kind of get over watching it.

But I'll watch UFC fights.

Okay.

Knowing what you know about Krov, could you take on a UFC world champion woman?

No, dude.

They would destroy me.

I'll humbly admit that.

They will wreck me.

And because, dude, it's not, I didn't train it for 15 years.

Yeah.

You know, I've trained it for a couple years.

What about a WNBA player?

Oh, yeah.

I can smoke that on the court for sure.

Like the best one, though?

I don't know who the best is.

Let's just say like 20 points a game.

She averages.

Dude, bring it.

Let's do it.

I'm competitive.

So even if I lose, I'll just still go for it.

Yeah.

Well, you could play defense.

So, I mean,

I've got her unlocked, dude.

I'll get the steps.

They're not that tall.

I mean, some of them are tall, but I don't know how tall the best one is.

I've never seen a game to be.

She's having me choose beef with WNBA players, the women UFC players.

No, it's interesting because when you put the sexes against each other in sports, it's just interesting to see.

It is, man.

I think,

yeah, dude, I think there's so much there

individually individually in the sports, but if there is ever a crossover,

I think that'd probably sell out.

It would.

It'd have to be something because, like, Survivor does it well because you're just using your body weight on the physical challenges, but it'd have to be a sport where the physicality doesn't outweigh too heavily.

So it's fair.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Because obviously guys are stronger and faster.

Yeah.

So it'd have to be some kind of sport where there's a balance.

Yeah, I agree.

I agree.

But I love watching Survivor Man.

If you could go on any show, which show would you go on?

Like Reality TV.

Reality TV.

Dude, when I was a kid, I used to love watching Wipeout, so I want to give Wipeout a shot.

Yeah, is that the one where

which show is that?

I don't know.

Wipeout had like these obstacle courses, basically.

Okay.

And you would hop on certain platforms and stuff, and then they would like either shoot you with something or there'd be like balls that they throw at you or like a machine would shoot out some sort of

I've seen that.

I think they have a timer and they have to complete the obstacle course.

Complete the obstacle course, get through it.

You're taking all these blows.

There's a big water pit beneath it.

So I think that one or like American Ninja Warrior?

Uh, I've seen that one too.

Yeah, those guys are insane.

They're insane.

Yeah, they're insane.

Those are nuts.

I would go on Survivor or The Amazing Race.

Oh, that's cool.

That's cool.

I feel like those are dope.

Not naked and afraid.

No,

I just too vulnerable for me.

Gotcha.

Gotcha.

Aren't you with like a random person too?

Yeah, I think so.

Yeah, that's weird because I got a fiancé.

Oh, yeah.

That would not, that would not go too.

Yeah.

What about you?

You dating right now?

Uh,

low-key, like literally two days.

So, like, she's fairly new.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't know what to call that then.

Yeah.

Like, we've gone on a date.

Okay.

And she's solid?

Yeah, she's cool.

Yeah.

And I've gone on dates prior, but like, I think what's especially

unique about being an entrepreneur and going through a lot of personal development, you know, a lot of guys, they'll just go out and chase tail.

They'll go out and just do the whole player game.

I'm in Miami.

I've never been that.

So when you're in a culture like Miami and that is occurring, not only do you stand out, but also what you look for has to be very, very specific and you have to know the questions to ask.

Yeah.

And so things are going good so far.

Nice.

So what were those questions you asked?

Well,

the first thing is

I was talking about on a prior show that your personal development is the key to the relationship actually working.

Your vantage point to see where other people are at, and as leaders in business, we have to do this too.

To see where people are at, you have to meet them where they're at and either lead them and a bad person will manipulate them.

It's the same skill set.

It's just the intention of the heart of the person.

So if you can see where they are at in their personal development, that's typically the first thing that I look for: I'll ask them questions on, okay, what books have you read?

And what are you into?

Oh, yeah, of course.

Oh, nice.

Of course.

Dude, that's fun.

What books have you read?

What are you into?

Et cetera.

Cause looks just gets you at the door.

Right, right.

You know, there's a bunch of podcasts too with guys just roasting pot girls that are not so smart.

You know, it's like looks just gets you in the door.

And, you know, it's the character behind that.

And so you have to ask deeper questions.

I like that, bro.

Yo, if I got asked out on a date, I'd be like, hell yeah.

Yeah, man.

And what's funny about that, and if they ask me the same question, I'll tell them, da, da, da.

But it's the intention of the guy or the intention of the girl.

If they're just looking for the hookups and stuff, you're never going to get that deep.

And then also in Miami, you just got to know

once you have some experience of going on some dates and you know what girls are not the right ones,

then when you find the right one, you're like, she's different.

You know, quick.

That's how I feel right now.

So.

And were you always like that?

Or did you have a phase where you were kind of um no dude i mean i've i've always been uh monogamous i've always had girlfriends and stuff like that or if i'm in a relationship i'd be with that one girl um i've only had a few relationships and so i've gone on dates and stuff like that so that's been very selective very selective and i think as you know you grow you have to be because dude the numbers thing is so juvenile like i'm not the body count numbers yeah i've never been interested in that oh really yeah so you don't care no i've never been interested in me obtaining a higher body count no i'm saying the girl girl, though.

Oh, that's different.

That shows decisions that are being made.

Yeah.

It shows my decisions being made.

If I can make the decisions, I know you can make the decisions.

Yeah.

And it's about the environment that you put yourself in.

It's about, you know, other things around how you see yourself.

And then also the environment.

So I don't think that the body count thing

is the end of the world if a girl has over five or ten.

Like that's, I don't think that's necessarily bad.

The only reason is because there are certain phases where, hey, like you're just in a bad environment, whatever.

I can, I can have empathy towards it doesn't mean i agree with it but i can at least see how they got there right if they're just reckless with it then i'm like i'm good i'm good yeah i feel that though because as a guy you're kind of pressured into having a higher body count to be cool i guess yeah and i'm similar to you like i didn't really care and i couldn't get them to be honest at the time but like yeah guys in my position have super high body counts that's a big part of it though too like if you can't get it um then there's also a determination to either a go get it or have everything else whether that be career or fitness or whatever, make up for that.

But then when you attain some of that stuff, you're just like, oh, well, it's not the same why that I had in the beginning.

No, not at all.

So I think it's a dual-edged sword, but I think for young guys specifically, if they can't get it, it just becomes the thing that they attack.

Just like if it's a business goal, it's the thing that they go attack and they want to conquer and they want to go do this, this, this, that.

The problem with that is that you, just like a girl can get desensitized to different guys and can't love again after a certain amount of bodies, so can a guy.

A guy can do the same thing.

You know, may not, uh, may not be as little or as few.

Guys may be able to sleep with more, quote unquote, just because we still have to learn and develop that through our 20s and stuff like that.

Girls grow up a lot faster.

They're a lot smarter that way because they just have so much more going on.

But I think that guys can also have that same problem too.

Oh, for sure.

I mean, I'm not trying to call anyone out, but you see guys with high body counts and they're, they feel like there's a void almost in a certain part of their life.

Yeah.

And that chasing, dude, is one,

it's the wrong thing to solve for.

So like if you have habits of

other vices, could be women, it could be smoking weed, it could be doing all that kind of stuff, you're trying to get to the other edge of that bridge.

So that thing is getting you to some certain state and you need to identify why you think that that's the route that's going to get you to that state.

And a lot of the times it's trauma, it's some sort of way that you're not dealing with things with work or with family stress.

You feel like that's the way out.

Where a lot of the times, dude, if someone just took the time to meditate, to eat the proper foods, and they just did a lot of the basics instead of leaning onto this other stuff to counteract all the other stuff going on in their life.

Yeah.

They can find a lot more, not only foundational structure to their life, but then that allows the doors, I believe, for going to God and actually opening up a relationship and creating space there.

Absolutely.

And I had a performance mentor specifically for business coaching and stuff like that a long time ago.

He's worked with Ty Lopez.

He's worked with Sam Ovins.

He's a great guy.

And he told me, he's like, hey, dude.

The first thing that we got to do before you make a bunch of changes in your life and things that you want to take on is you first have to think, what makes a Ferrari go faster?

I was like, just slam the gas.

Like, what do you mean?

He's like, you got to take things out of the front.

And I was like, got it.

I got to remove so much off my plate, not only in the business sense, but what things am I clinging to that aren't optimizing my energy?

And if I just look at it as every single objective that I'm trying to do, every single relationship trying to build, if I just do a straight line rather than this emotional arc or this time delay every single time, I'll get there way faster.

I love that.

And so, yeah, I've really learned a a lot from him, but also have been implementing that for a long time.

Yeah, that's cool, man.

Robert, where can people find you, find your programs?

Yeah, you guys can hit me up on the Gram or on YouTube at the Robert J.

Miller.

We'll go ahead and link it in the description as well.

That way you guys can make sure you get the right links.

I got a bunch of fake followers and fake pages out there.

Hopefully your IG's back by then, right?

Yeah, hopefully.

Yeah.

IG just got taken down like a week ago.

So

thanks for coming on.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Thanks for watching, guys.

See you tomorrow.

Peace.