Leaving the Pro Gaming Space, eGirls & Making Insane Money From Streaming | DSH #252

Girls come over and they play video games naked.

So they're fully naked and can the chat make them do things?

Kind of combine the high-level editing with nudity and so I think no one's ever really done that mix before and I'm just trying to pick and choose different things on how to make good content with that.

And are you naked next to them?

Sometimes yeah.

Wow yeah.

It's a good life man.

It's fun.

You get paid to do that?

Yeah it's awesome.

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Got an interesting guest for you guys today.

Professional esports player, Michael Currilo.

How's it going?

It's going pretty good.

How are you?

I'm good, man.

I'm good.

You playing 15 hours a day still or not?

Not anymore, but those days were definitely fun.

Yeah, super nerd days.

How many years did you do that straight?

Oh, boy.

I tried.

I did 15 hours while I was in high school, too.

Wow.

I just slept more and went to high school late.

That's impressive in high school because school is like eight hours.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, I showed up for like probably four of the eight, but

they didn't care?

They did.

I got yelled at.

Your parents didn't care?

You got yelled at by them, too.

All right.

Life of a pro gamer, huh?

Yeah, it's lots of video games.

Weird thing about gaming is you'd think a lot of them would be fat because they sit all day and eat, but a lot of them are skinny.

I think it's like an unhealthy skinny, though.

Yeah, too skinny, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I was like 50 pounds underweight, also.

Yeah, I'm trying to put on some weight going to the gym now.

It's tough, though, man, when you're tall and lengthy, like to put on weight.

Yeah, putting on weight's hard.

You got to just shovel your mouth with food over and over and over.

Yeah, I'm struggling right now because I'm 6'6 ⁇ , 170.

Oh, yeah.

What are you?

I think 6'3,

180.

Okay.

You're probably average.

But I remember when I was in the gaming days, I was like 155, soaking wet.

That's crazy.

What was that first game where you became a pro off of?

It was League of Legends.

I mean, I played Halo pretty seriously, but I wasn't crazy good or anything.

I got on like a team or went to an event, didn't do anything crazy, but League of Legends was the big one where it kind of just took off.

Were you naturally good at that game, or it just took years of?

There's something called ranked anxiety where like you get afraid to play in ranked games because it'll mess up your rank.

Okay.

So I didn't play many games, but I got really high rating for the amount of games that I played.

So I'm curious how I would have been early on if I played more.

Does that make sense?

Yes, you were scared for your rank to drop.

Yeah, because I was very, it was like my first time playing ranked the first season.

I played like 18 games.

I won 15 out of the 18, so my rank was really high for the amount of games I played, but I didn't want to keep playing because I didn't want to drop rank.

Got it.

That goes away after a while.

So is your ranked based off games you're winning?

Because it's a team game.

It's an ELO-based system.

So you know how chess works.

You win a game, you go up, lose a game, you go down.

It's like that.

I play chess every day.

That's awesome.

But the thing with league, though, is it's five on five, right?

Yep.

So even if you lose, you could still be good.

Oh, yeah.

That's where people get pissed.

Right pissed.

Yeah.

So were you like experiencing that at certain points?

I feel like at a certain point, you just become the team therapist, not so much a player.

And you try to type to them and say, hey, guys, it's going to be okay.

We can win this.

Yeah.

And you're doing more typing to the players to get them to try instead of you trying.

Wait, you weren't on voice chat saying it?

No, it's only typing, yeah.

Oh, in league?

Yeah.

That's pretty crazy.

So even in the pro competitions, people are...

Oh, that's all on-comms linked up with your team and stuff.

But solo queue, where you do build your rank, it's all random people through other teams, just typing only.

Got it.

Which lane were you the best in?

I was the guy that would be the right-hand man of the person that does all the damage.

Okay.

So I was his.

So you would follow the strongest player and just figure out what he's doing.

Keep him alive.

Yeah.

No, keep him alive, heal him, do whatever I can to have them

you were like the support yep okay that was me interesting i guess you could uh you could get really good at that right yeah people make fun of the sports out they don't do anything but they're they need some skill guys come on okay

um and you were able to make some money off of league yeah it varies a bunch it's actually so crazy looking at the time span of how money's working on it right now where I feel like early on when I first started it was extremely low and then it rapidly shot up, like too high.

Like NBA teams would be buying these pro LCS teams, which is like the NFL of nerds.

Yeah.

They would be buying these teams, dumping millions of dollars into players, and then fast forward a few years and they're like, guys,

the money's not really coming in.

How can we keep justifying these purchases and whatnot?

So it went way, way up, and now I think it's on a mega deep decline.

Yeah.

Damn.

So did you catch any of that up at all?

I was on like the ramp here.

If I would have kept going here, it would have been nice.

But

content creation is a whole nother level, which I was happy I was able to get into when I was.

I feel like it's a less stressful route.

And even though it might not pay as much, it's sustainable, right?

Yeah, I think it just varies so much.

Like a pro player can make $4,000 a month or $150,000 a month.

And same thing with content creation, too.

It's

so much variables.

Yeah, it depends on what games are trending, I guess.

Like, if you caught that Fortnite wave, you could have made millions, you know?

But if you missed that, I don't know what's popular now.

I don't even watch esports anymore.

Yeah, I've actually done a pretty rapid, pretty screwed transition myself.

Yeah, into what?

I have girls come over and they play video games naked and post that on my own website that people pay to see.

Wow.

Yeah.

That's like kind of like what Vitaly did back in the day.

Kind of, yeah, pretty similar.

He's like more prank related.

I'm more video game related.

Wow.

So they're fully naked and can the chat make them do things if they donate?

no it's just like a video i kind of combine the high level editing with nudity and so i think no one's ever really done that mix before and i'm just trying to pick and choose different things on how to make good content with that nice and are you naked next to them Sometimes, yeah.

Wow.

Yeah.

It's a good life, man.

It's fun.

You get paid to do that?

Yeah, it's awesome.

So it's your two favorite things, video games and girls.

Found a way to combine them, right?

Yeah, I mean, I think I forget who it was, but they were like, whatever life you want, just make a business around of it and it'll happen.

It'll be great.

That's sick, man.

And a lot of these gamers, they're kind of nerdy, but

you're able to still pull some girls, it looks like.

That's cool.

Yeah, it's fun.

I think a lot of girls think I'm kind of unique, where

like a nerdy gamer with some confidence, they're very confused.

I don't think I've ever seen that.

I can't think of any gamer that has IRL confidence, like with girls, especially.

Yeah.

How did you build that, I guess?

Was it natural or

just striking out so much that you just got confident?

I think when you just do what you love and you get successful at it, it kind of puts like a chip on your shoulder almost and it kind of gives you a layer of confidence.

Right.

I mean, been going to the gym a little too recently.

That helps as well.

For sure.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Back when I was nerdy, I didn't pull any girls, man.

I think that's the story of everyone.

Yeah.

My high school was basketball, video games, nothing else.

Yeah.

Oh, you could hoop?

Yeah, a little bit.

Okay.

Yeah.

I mean, even that itself, basketball team and playing video games, that's a rare combo.

You're different, man.

I would have,

I was in like the pro league at the time in my high school.

Damn.

And I was on the basketball team, and I would have Asians walk by me, and they would walk by me so slow like this.

Because they would recognize me from seeing me playing online.

Yeah, yeah.

But they wouldn't put two and two together because I'm on a basketball team.

I don't look like I'm on a professional gamer team.

That's unheard of.

So they'd go, Bunny?

Like, looking like I'm an alien or something yeah that's wild what position were you in basketball um probably a forward not center but not power forward yeah yeah because you're like 6'3 you said 6'3 yeah yeah that makes sense you still play or not uh i want to more but i'll bring you to lifetime oh heck yeah yeah to play on the weekends we'll do it um so what games are like making the most money i guess is it still league of legends right now

like i said it's in a difficult spot right now i feel like for investors they they love dumping oh my god they dump money into it.

I remember.

But at a certain point, they're going to want their money back.

And sponsors are having a tricky time right now getting their money back.

So I think it,

is it true?

Do you know how about NBA teams, how like you make money off of, you buy a team and you lose money every year, but you sell that team five years later.

That's how you make your money.

Is that kind of how that works for owning an NBA team?

I don't know, but my buddy just sponsored one of them and it was like 15 mil a year just to have a patch on the jersey.

So I have trouble believing they would lose money.

I think where owners are making money is through that model, which is the weirdest model in the world.

Wow, I didn't know that.

You buy a team, you operate at a loss, and then you sell it down the road for more money.

You know what?

It might be true because they pay the players so much money, like $150 million a year, right?

Or something crazy.

That's like such a weird and risky way to make money, it seems.

It's ridiculous.

It does sound weird on paper, but over time, NFL and NBA teams have gone up.

I know.

For now, it's it's good but there might be a plateau right i wonder when that's going to be i mean i think we might be seeing it now in esports because i think a lot of the ways that

um nfl teams and nba teams they make their money is obviously through ticket sales yeah right and broadcasting rights do you know it's like 600 bucks to watch the buy the nfl package to watch every game you serious i did not know it was that much the highlights on youtube right yeah

So esports doesn't have that angle in to make money right now where everyone will watch it for free.

It's great.

It'll get a bunch of millions of viewers, but no one's willing to throw down some cash to watch the game.

They don't have a network deal.

Yeah.

So that's what they need probably to get to the next level.

And I don't know how they're going to get that.

Viewers.

So if they have the viewers.

They have the viewers.

Is it enough to get a TV channel, though, to pay them?

You know what I mean?

People love watching it for free, but they're not willing to put some cash down to watch it.

It's kind of like those boxing fights that everyone illegally streams.

Like Jake Paul fights.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Because because people are smart and just go on Reddit and find a link or whatever.

So what's your theory, how to fix that?

They're going to have to start with some, I think they take the Impractical Joker's route.

They go to some network no one's ever heard of.

I'm not trying to throw shade on that network, but they go that route, prove the concept out, become the best show on that network, and then they'll have some negotiation power to get on like ESPN or something.

You know what I mean?

I think everyone was so excited for like, gaming's the next new thing.

But then they put it behind these paywalls and people are like, oh, not that interested.

But they're interested when it's free.

So it's a weird mix there yeah they're gonna have to figure it out man but i was addicted on watching fortnite videos for i'd say like a year straight back during that that peak oh yeah like it was fun every morning watching tfu ninja or whatever i still love that game to be honest i mean i have such an addictive personality i know i should not start playing let's play basketball and fortnite all day long basketball i don't mind playing why because it's healthy it's healthy and it's fun and it's competitive but yeah with video games you got to be careful man because you could get lost in the sauce oh yeah yeah I mean, you got out of it, which is cool to see, but some people, their whole lives.

I think that's why a lot of pro gamers got good.

They just got addicted to the game.

Yeah.

And they fell in love with it.

Yeah.

It's crazy to watch how calculated they are.

You ever see those speed runs on YouTube?

Oh, yeah.

Those are hilarious.

Those are to the T.

Dude, one mistake and it's over.

Yeah.

I think some stat that some people, the viewers might find interesting is...

What's like the prime age for an NFL player, you think?

Probably like 24.

Is there a range or just straight 24?

Say low 20s maybe.

For pro gaming, the prime is about like 17 to 19 or 20.

Oh yeah?

Isn't that crazy?

That's young.

It's young young.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I wonder why it's so young.

I think it's because

these

owners and team members, they like molding players to fit with their team.

And they like molding their lifestyle.

They like molding their eating habits just so they can build like the perfect pro player essentially because they need 12 hours a day of their attention every single day right so were you on like a strict regimen when you were pro like diet like mindset stuff i got into it pretty early where i saw a rise of like um

gaming houses happen and it was very like organized but not organized yeah now it's more go to the gym here eat food here do this here i was on like the uprise of that where we just threw them in one house and just played all day that makes sense yeah those houses yeah those clans were you part of a clan uh i was in a a few team houses where i lived in the closet and half the people in my house barely spoke english they're from like asia right oh yeah so good dude those asians are i love asian food now everyone oh i have you been to chinatown here oh of course fire i'm going after this bro it's fire you try uh china mama oh yeah soup dumplings yeah amazing bomb yeah i love asian food man asian people are pretty pretty respectful too yeah i people make fun of me.

I say I'm fluent in every language now because I just say the very important words that they need to know.

And I think I learned that from communicating in league.

I say, I come in now, I gank for you.

Oh, so you could speak a little Mandarin?

No, Conglish.

Conglish.

Korean English.

And it worked out great because you got to just simplify the words so you guys can communicate on a level where you guys can both understand it.

So what's it like in those gaming houses?

Everyone just gaming non-stop?

Do you do anything else?

Non-stop.

It was kind of like a toxic environment a little bit where if you're not practicing, your team's kind of looking down on you.

You're like,

what are you doing?

We're trying to win here.

You're going to play 12 hours?

You're going to slack off a little bit.

Seven days a week?

Oh, yeah.

It was a lot, dude.

Damn.

I had to sleep with wrist guards on to stop carpal tunnel happening from gaming so much.

Holy crap.

Yeah.

Wait, so what's carpal tunnel?

Like if you feel like this all day and your mouse is like up like this and you got this little arch going,

you'll start getting pain after

months

yeah, yeah, yeah.

Damn, I didn't even think about that.

And your eyes must be strained.

That's the other thing, too.

Oh my god, I had blue light glasses on always.

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They help me, yeah.

I always buy them, and I'm too lazy to put them on.

But I know know some people have hit or miss comments on those.

Yeah, I like them.

Maybe I should start.

I mean, blue light is pretty bad for you, especially 12 hours a day.

Put on Flux.

I don't know if you guys have heard of that.

Like, turns your screen

on the Mac, right?

Yeah, that helps a lot.

Yeah, I got that.

So, when you retired, was it by choice or you just

kind of just happened?

So

there was a situation where I was on a team for a while, the starting player.

I went to probably one of the biggest teams in the league,

and then

they brought in a substitute to like switch time with me to like I'll play some games, he'll play some games.

And then they ended up making a decision to go full time with him.

And being on one of the top teams, it's nice because any of the bottom teams will want you on their team.

But going from having like a family of

five other players, six other players, a coach that you see all day, every day, you interact with them, you eat with them, and then being ripped out of that after a year and just placed into another one, it's a lot.

It's like,

what the, my world just flipped upside down off a drop of a hat.

So

one of my teammates was huge in content creation, like one of the biggest Twitch streamers.

Yeah.

And so I said, do I want to join one of these other teams that are willing to pick me up?

Because when you come from a top team, other teams love to pick you up.

Or do I want to try this content creation route?

So I was like, dude, I don't know if I want to go down this route of just like re-plugging myself into different teams, different environments, and it being the most stressful thing in the world because you play bad for two weeks and boom, you're gone.

Wow.

So that's where I decided.

I'm like, you know what?

I'm going to go full-time Twitch and I have someone who's able to mentor me, help me, give me viewers.

I mean, his stream schedule was about like 6 p.m.

to midnight.

So I would actually fire it up at 11 p.m.

and stream all throughout the night till like 10 a.m.

Damn.

After he would send me 20,000 people every single night to just watch me to boost up.

Wow.

That's dope.

Oh, yeah, because you could, it's called a raid, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Host raid.

Wow, so you would pull an all-nighter.

Oh, yeah.

Damn.

So you're nocturnal.

Just to help fit that schedule to get whatever kind of eyeballs I could.

Wow.

So you were willing to just sacrifice your whole schedule for

get to that next level.

That's cool.

Damn.

Nocturnal, man.

I think starting out in Content Creation, you have to pretty much dedicate your life because if you're going to build a community, whether it's on stream, you got to be live for people to be there.

You know, if you're not live, they're not interacting with each other and building that community.

And that's that's kind of why I turned away from streaming in general is because it is such a grind I get people coming to me all the time they're like bunny should I start streaming I say I wouldn't

at least you're on it

but there is something powerful about that live that you mentioned like you're seeing these big numbers with XQC and Aiden that they're getting now yeah and it's like damn a lot of people like that live interaction as well I'm more of a YouTube guy where I can put

an hour two hours three hours into the greatest greatest video I can and have the editors chop it up, make it look nice, and then post that and have the interaction through the comments.

Just because,

like I said, on stream, it's still a seven day a week job.

I feel like if I leave for two days, I'm like, oh my God, I'm going to come back and my life's going to be over, you know?

But with YouTube, you can get a little ahead.

You can post videos over a certain amount of time.

And it's.

I like it that way a lot.

No, I know what you mean, man.

Whenever it feels like you have to do something, like it feels like a job and you don't have control over it, I don't like that feeling.

And I'm kind of dealing with that now with sponsors and they're like, yo, I need this up by a certain date.

And I'm like, ah, it's kind of feeling like a job now, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I like to be more low-key.

I mean, made my money now and just want to have fun at this point.

Nice.

Sounds like you're in a similar situation.

Yeah.

I was lucky enough to have a friend where when I was doing the 10 hours of streams every single day, he hopped in a call with me and he said, buddy,

you're doing it wrong.

He showed me he made 100 grand on YouTube in one month.

Damn.

And I was like, well, I guess I'm a YouTuber now.

This streaming thing.

I'm over it.

100k in a month is crazy on YouTube.

Yeah, human.

This was years ago.

Yeah.

So I think that just gave me the blind faith in myself to just dump everything into it and try to get to that level of success by just trusting him that he got there.

I could ask him any question I want, whenever I want.

And it ended up working out pretty well myself too.

So that's where whenever I was on stream, I was like, guys, the live contents, the boring stuff, go watch this.

Just send them all to my YouTube.

That's dope.

Sounds like having a mentor, having a friend there that had experience really helped you.

Oh, yeah.

I think often you just need that little like confidence boost or push or whatever it is, even if they're not even giving you like a day-by-day, like step-by-step.

Just knowing someone else did it that you know is all you need really sometimes.

Huge.

Yeah.

I saw one clip of you.

Is it true you had 30 computers in your house?

That's like the meme.

I think it's about 20.

Okay, that's still insane.

And they're all gaming ones?

Yeah.

Dude, that's like 20 G's.

You want one?

I'm down.

Okay.

I need to hear why and how this happened, though.

I had a lot of people helping me at one point, which ended up in not the best situation.

Definitely a big learning lesson there.

Okay.

But it was actually a lawsuit involved.

I can't even go too far into it.

Oh, okay.

But

that was a pretty expensive learning experience for me.

Does it involve crypto mining?

No.

Okay.

30 computers.

That's what I think of when I hear about a whole setup.

Don't you need like a perfect air-regulated temperature?

A lot of stuff.

Yeah.

I remember like briefly, briefly looking up to it because I had so many.

I was like, I wonder what I could do with all these.

Don't people do it in like Alaska or something?

Yeah.

In Vegas, it'd be tough because the energy is the highest in the country, I believe.

Nevada Energy is ripping us off.

I think I'm paying like $800 a month in energy bill.

Have you done a lot of it, that kind of mining?

Not mining, no.

I get offered all the time.

Our friend Todd probably gets offered it too.

I mean, it's something that's there, but yeah, I always thought that was super interesting.

It is, but I feel like we're too late now.

If you did it, I know.

You probably talked to so many people that were like the first to the.

Dude, I had this kid in my high school.

Everyone made fun of him, and I'm like, yo, this is kind of interesting.

You're crazy until you're a genius.

Yeah, now he's a millionaire.

He was mining in high school in 2014.

Oh, my God.

Off his just one computer at home.

I think he might have had two, but that's awesome.

Making millions off that.

I mean, you do so many podcasts here.

What are some of the other crazy stories you hear of like the first in line to make the millions yeah i mean there's a lot of crazy ones man these

girls are making a million a month yeah i mean there's a midget making 20 million a year

it's like dude there's a lot of weird ways to make money this this guy earlier was making five million a year doing um

some like patio cover business it's the most random things but i think my favorite quote is

you're crazy until you're a genius.

It's like, what are you doing?

You're wasting your time.

And then five years later, oh my God, I knew you had it the whole time.

You're so smart.

It's hilarious.

I got bullied in high school for being an entrepreneur.

I'm sure you might have dealt with this too.

And now they're all hitting me up.

Like, I believed in you.

You stole my candy when I was trying to sell it in high school.

It's like, really, dude?

But that's how you know you're kind of onto something when other people are like making fun of it or hating on it, you know?

And I'm sure, like,

you going into esports at the time, that wasn't a cool thing to do back then.

I know.

It's it's weird because

I got to experience the get bullied side and the cool side.

It was the weirdest thing.

I was at the cusp of that where it was awesome.

Yeah, cuz yeah, at first we were probably getting bullied, but then it became cool like halfway through.

It was so random how it just like suddenly became cool.

Yeah.

And nowadays, I'm sure they're the coolest high schoolers and dude.

Now they're pulling tens.

Yeah.

Like the what's that one guy, Clix, I think, or something.

He's pulling all these girls on a stream.

It's like, dude, 10 years ago, you'd be getting made fun of.

It's nuts.

And that's kind of how like entrepreneurship in general is, right?

Because now it's cool to start your own thing.

But back then, you were like, you're not getting a job?

You're not going to college?

Yeah.

I was so embarrassed.

Like, the normal conversation when you were a senior in high school was, where are you going to college?

I would just be like, duck and move.

Yeah, you were like a total didn't go to college.

Yeah, it was the weirdest thing.

And little did I know, they were just brainwashing people, basically.

So you didn't go at all?

No, thank God.

I hated school.

That was the worst.

Did you graduate high school?

Barely, yeah.

Like a 1.8.

I would rank up my friends in league and they would like help me cheat on tests.

I had the coolest systems of cheating.

If you all share this with anyone, so I was lucky enough.

My friend had a last name that was right behind me, like with the numerical letter or whatever.

Yeah.

And so, here, put your feet out.

You guys can't see what we're doing.

But for number five, he would tap my left foot five times and then tap this foot three times.

For number five is C.

Smart.

And so I would just be sitting like this the whole time.

He's tapping my feet, giving me every answer.

I didn't even look at any question.

That's genius.

And I couldn't get too good of a score or else the teacher would know.

So he would give me like an 80 or 85, 75, depending on

how hard the material is.

That is the most brilliant thing I've heard of.

I loved it.

Yeah.

Yeah, that beats my technique, which was those see-through binders.

You remember those?

Like with the, I think so, yeah.

Yeah, so you couldn't see the paper unless your shoe was like on it.

So every time I needed to look at the notes, I would press.

You were one of those water bottle kids, huh, where you like unravel.

That was a good one, too, but people caught on to that.

Yeah.

I kind of had to adapt.

I never got caught cheating, though, which was good.

I didn't do it often.

I feel like this sounds weird, but I feel like I learned more through cheating in school than actually learning the

quizzes.

Because you would get thrown so many curveballs on.

Yeah.

Okay, you know when they would have like four different type of tests and you couldn't cheat on the person next to you?

Yeah, yeah.

You got to think outside.

You got to like go grab a tissue and do a little peek over there.

You got to really get creative with it.

Yeah, they did that with the SATs, and I was pretty upset when they announced that one.

I actually started looking at their number 17 and be like, oh, that's my number seven.

Okay.

That was it.

That was a good one.

Did you even take the SATs?

Because

you didn't go to college.

That was a big one for us.

Yeah, I think those are really hard to cheat on, too.

I would have been really hard because a lot of it was writing.

And then the year after I graduated, they removed the essay part.

I'm like, seriously, dude?

It was the hardest part man and then college writing five page essays every week you didn't have to deal with that you're lucky oh my god it sounds miserable yeah if anyone has any interesting ways on how they want to learn how to cheat on test in school I got you I'll give you all my techniques DM Michael guys and if you get caught don't snitch it's all my fault

so where do you want to take everything are you gonna continue with the content you're doing now or you want to do some new stuff um i'm having a fun time doing the bun censored stuff buncensored.com that's where i post like the naked girls playing video games and whatnot that's super fun and whether it makes a million dollars a month or 10k a month i am super happy doing it i am enjoying it right now i think it's so much fun where

if you're lucky enough to be able to put yourself in position where you can do what you do without it feeling like work boom you're in there yeah um

but i know the kind of money that you make from it it doesn't last forever whether it's youtube condecration streaming or whatever so i pretend like i make a thousand bucks a month eat food love food that's where all my money goes and then uh i just dump it all into real estate because it's more of a forever thing nice so you live frugally and you're just buying up houses yep cool in vegas or yeah nice i think it's cool how so many things are coming here i think it's awesome with dude yeah nfl teams mlb teams nba teams that's just like everything coming here i just see the money signs in my head i'm like wow yeah man all the big conferences are here events i think twitch con is next month i mean there's always popping things here airbnb is gonna be my next project um so they're actually strict with that in vegas did you know that yeah it's really bad yeah like apparently you can't have within i think 500 meters or something there's so many rules and yeah regulations it's nuts so my friend just did one and it's been a total

so you need to be prepared for that but yeah if you do find the right properties it's good cash flow for sure yeah i'm excited about that so you're just sitting on the houses right now you're not doing anything they're all long-term rentals so it's nice like low passive income but it's nothing crazy but yeah passive income one dollar from passive income feels like a better than a hundred dollars from earned income to me so right because you just wake up and it's there yeah yeah it feels up well dude it's been super fun anything you want to close off with or promote um

if you guys want to watch the nerd side of me it's uh funny food on youtube if you're into league of legends or tft if you want to watch crazy side where girls get naked and play video games it's funcensor.com that stuff is fun awesome hopefully i'll see you there all right thanks for coming on brother heck yes yeah let's get some china chinese food oh my god i usually put all day to be there in 10 minutes when you text me.

All right, let's do it.

All right, guys.

Catch you later.

Peace.

Adios.