Nick Dais On Near Death Experiences, Best Sports to Watch and Sports Betting | DSH #195

Professional sports better and podcast host Nick Dias.

Let's go.

I like that intro, man.

Professional sports beta.

The average salary for an NFL running back that has won a Super Bowl is under $3 million.

But the game has changed, so the running back gets devalued.

And it's super unfortunate because the reason why I say I'm so hypocritical is because if you're a running back, yo, hold out.

It's expected.

Welcome back to the Digital Social Hour, guys.

Got an amazing guest for you guys today, professional sports better and podcast host, Nick Dias.

Let's go.

I like that intro, man.

Professional sports better.

I think I might have to add that to my LinkedIn page.

Man, I mean, you said 61% last time we spoke.

So I'd consider that a professional level.

Yeah, NFL has been,

I don't bet as many games.

You know what I mean?

Like a lot of people bet the Monday night game because it's Monday night football, dude.

We're at the bar.

We got to bet it.

I don't really do that.

I have to really like a game in order for me to bet it.

And also I stick to five games a week.

Five games a week.

It's what I do a lot of the contests out here and even some online where it's basically five games against a point spread.

And it's a long-term investment.

I'm a, I'm someone who, I like tournament style things.

Like when I play poker, I like tournaments.

I don't really like cash games and whatnot.

So, you know, you do a hundred thousand dollar buy-in and it takes you through the whole season.

So I'm kind of invested for the whole year and it's best record at the end.

And last year I hit 61%,

but over the last seven years, eight years now coming up that I've been doing Veterans Minimum, my podcast, I'm roughly around 60% on that.

That's amazing, man.

So you like the long-term plays.

You're not betting like on the actual game usually.

No, I am betting on the actual game too but what i do is so i have those five picks against the spread that i do every week and then i bet them because i'm a degenerate and i also like to to make some money i bet them also at the sports books i shop the lines and try to find the best numbers before i make a play nice and do you bet on any obscure sports or do you stick with like just football basketball hockey baseball the main four i guess so the reason why i'm smirking right now is because so i have I have what I call my

f ⁇ ing money in the sense of I have this one app for one of the sports books that I call it dumb bets you and I are out at the bar we're having some beers and you're like dude let's throw a crazy parlay I'm like all right I'm in I'm not gonna not ruin I'm not gonna ruin a good night a good a good vibe but then I have like my serious bank role where I'm betting bigger money on the games that I actually like yeah so as far as obscure I once bet on Madden simulators during

what is that so people playing Madden like professional Madden players they would match up you could bet on that?

During the pandemic, bro, you were able to bet on a lot of weird because people needed their fix.

So they were legit sports books that were offering Madden simulators.

So they take, you know, user 191 against user 202, and maybe they're professional Madden players, and you could legit bet on it with the point spread, the over-unders.

It was some crazy shit on.

I feel like those could be rigged easily.

Yeah.

Yeah, because you never know if the two are in cahoots.

Right.

You could just plan someone to win.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, and then you bet the other side.

That's a great question, dude, because especially when it's the electronic stuff, I feel like those are a little bit more sketchy.

Yeah, Madden's like a small world.

Like, you know, all the top players in Madden.

So you're probably friends with a ton of them.

Yeah, for sure.

And also, the craziest thing is, you know, you were able to bet on electronic horse racing.

What?

That was another one.

You could do, like, when I go to casinos.

And I'm, you know, I come to one pretty much every day, but

I never ever play on electronic games.

I like to physically see the dealer.

I don't think there's an edge.

I know there isn't an edge, but just mentally for my sanity as I'm playing, I would like to know that, all right, Sean's the dealer here.

It's not some virtual person dealing the cards.

And I feel like mentally, I have an edge, even though I don't.

I know I don't, but it just makes me feel better knowing that there's an actual person there dealing the cards or spinning the roulette wheel.

For sure.

It is a comfort thing because I've played the blackjack machines here that are on the computers and it doesn't feel as safe for some reason.

It doesn't.

And it also doesn't feel as fun too.

No.

Some of the big, you know, gambling, I truly believe.

I've been doing it for so long, dude.

I've been sports betting since I was like seven years old.

But the gambling stuff, I've been around it my whole life.

I come from a family of gamblers.

And now it's easier to have this conversation because it was kind of frowned upon.

And like, oh, you're kind of a

betting in gambling.

But.

The one thing with the casino games is

you don't really have a big edge on a lot of them.

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And the coolest thing about it is it could be fun, dude.

If you and I are out and we see a crafts table, craps is probably the best game to play with a group of people because everyone's involved.

Yeah.

And you go and, you know, $100, $200, you have fun with it.

I truly believe that sports betting could be fun.

Gambling could be fun also, as long as you know your limits and you know that it is also a gamble.

A lot of the table games, it's left a chance, right?

Anyone that tells you that they have a strategy in roulette is an idiot.

There is no strategy, dude.

It's all feel.

It's all, I always bet the number 10.

Can't tell you why, other than it's my favorite number.

Yeah.

I don't look at if it's hot or cold.

I'm a one spin and go guy.

For sure.

$50 on black 10 usually.

If it hits, it hits.

It's hit twice in the

100 attempts that I've had on it.

So I'm definitely down.

So you won 1500 when it hit?

Yeah, I think it's a 36 to 1 payout.

So I think

it's around that much.

It's a lot.

One of the prop bets that never made sense to me, because I feel like you could just rig it easily, is the Gatorade color.

Yeah, there's actually a couple of sports books where, especially when you're looking at the Super Bowl, there's a misconception that those props are available at every sports book.

And it's not the case.

Those are considered in a category of exotic props.

Meaning, a lot of the sports books, especially the big ones that you see advertise,

they call it box score analytics, meaning if you take Tom Brady over 212 passing yards in the Super Bowl, you could go and look at it.

It's clearly there.

Whereas Gatorade, it could be subjective.

Was it Gatorade or was it water when it's clear?

There have been incidents where it's something that's a known commodity, right?

If I was the Gatorade guy for the Patriots, I could easily be like, yo, Sean, it's going to be red, bro.

Yeah.

And then you just go and I'll tell you what color it is.

Yeah.

not even.

It's just like, yo, you're my boy.

Yeah, yeah.

Go to the sports book.

They're giving it at eight to one.

I'm the one that makes the Gatorade.

It's gonna be red.

Yeah.

So there's been incidents like that.

Halftime

song opener.

Yeah.

There's been times where you'll see a song and it's 20 to 1.

And then two days before the Super Bowl, it's minus 150.

Why is that, Sean?

It's because it's a known thing.

It's like when people know for a fact who the number one pick is going to be.

You know, it's something like that.

So those props are considered exotic props.

And a lot of people feel the way you do where

they don't understand how you could bet on that.

You know, one of the biggest bets that I ever made, dumbest bet ever, was when the Super Bowl, Super Bowl 50 was in Santa Clara in San Francisco.

And it was minus 300 that they were going to show Alcatraz and the Golden Gate Bridge like together.

And I was like, dude, it's like the only landmark in San Francisco, the Golden Gate Bridge.

And it was in the middle of the third quarter that they flashed it.

I ended up getting paid, but it wasn't at a legal sports book.

It was like those sketchy offshore ones.

Online ones.

Yeah, because it's also subjective, right?

Like, do they show the bridge directly in the middle or was it just off to the side?

There used to be a controversy when this all started back during one of the Patriots Super Bowls, where one of the props was, is Giselle going to be appearing on the screen at any time?

And they spotlighted Robert Kraft and they showed the lower third Patriots owner, CEO.

And Giselle was in the background.

And that was the only time that you saw Giselle.

So again, it's subjective.

A lot of those bets that you were referencing, they're subjective.

Yeah.

Do you ever do super safe bets?

Like, did you see that one guy that bet 100K on Victor going number one in the draft and he only won like 200 bucks or something?

Yeah, I mean, I'll only do that just to mentally see a green ticket get cast, but I'm like on a little bit of a losing skit.

I'm like, you know, we just need to see one go in the hoop, right?

I'll do something like that.

But for the most part, you know, you got to be really careful, man, because there's been times where someone has live bet someone minus 1500.

They put $150,000 on it to win 10k

and then doesn't go your way

and then you're down 150k so there is no there's no such thing as a lock in sports betting right though everyone likes to throw that word around there's no such thing as a sure thing there are a couple of things that are close to it like the nba all-star game 20 of the last 22 years has gone over the the win total the point total excuse me because they just it's a glorified pickup game yeah they don't do it don't yeah they don't try so that's probably the closest thing to a lock in sports betting.

Do you think certain sports are rigged?

This is always such a polarizing topic, dude, because

I like to believe no.

But then you have the Tim Donaghy incident.

Yeah.

Then you have, I'm a big soccer fan, Juventus.

They're a team in Syria and Italy.

They got hit hard with a scandal in the mid-2000s.

Really?

Yeah, and it was really interesting, dude, because they're like a traditional powerhouse, right?

Like they're one of the richest teams in Europe, especially in Italy.

I think the owner of the team owns Ferrari.

So it's not like it's one of these like mid-tier clubs that come out of nowhere, like Leicester City, right?

Leicester City in the Premier League biggest upset in sports history, 5,000 to 1, dude.

$100 on you, 5K.

I remember that one.

It was in 2015.

If they were to come up with a scandal, I'd be like, yeah, I kind of could see it because they're going up with Manchester United and Chelsea and all these billionaire owners.

But Juventus was like basically the Yankees of that league.

And then they were rigging games.

What they would do is they wouldn't rig their games, but there's a thing in soccer where you accumulate a lot of yellow or red cards, your players miss games like down the road.

So what they would do is they would go to Sean, who's the referee of two teams that are playing each other, but Juventus is going to play.

AC Milan next week.

So what they'll do is they'll give Nick a yellow card so he misses the Juventus game because I'm AC Milan's best player.

And the Juventus gets the benefit through that because now Nick isn't playing against them.

So they weren't really rigging the Juventus games.

They were rigging the games prior to playing Juventus.

And then they got sent all the way down to the fourth division in the Italian league.

They finally recovered, but you're talking about a eight to nine year run that they were no longer in the top league in Series.

That's crazy.

And you mentioned you're big into soccer.

What do you think about the World Cup coming up?

Do you think the U.S.

has a chance to make a run?

Dude, I put out a video after they failed to make the World Cup in 2018.

Yeah.

And I said, congratulations to the 2026 World Cup champions, the United States of America.

And it still gets, it's my first viral video.

And it got like over 200,000 views on YouTube.

And I still get hits on it to this day.

And the reason why I say that is if you look at the history of the World Cup, It's only been about nine or 10 countries that have won it and seven of them have won it in their their home country.

Wow.

The U.S.

is hosting it.

It's the second time that they're hosting it.

And truthfully, dude, we actually have a really good team now.

We have a very young team.

All our players are playing overseas.

The MLS is still a young league, but it's kind of looked at as the retirement home for a lot of aging guys.

They just signed Leonel Messi.

And it's grown dramatically in the last 30 years.

It's only a 30-year league.

You're looking at the English Premier League.

It's been around for like 100 years, you know, La Liga in Spain, over 100 years.

So the talent pool has definitely closed.

But all our main players, Sean, they're playing on big-name teams in Europe.

And the biggest difference is when you're a kid and you're 16, 17 years old, anywhere else in the world as a soccer player, if you're good enough, dude, your parents are taking you out of school and putting you in the academy.

And then at 17, 18, you're playing professional soccer.

Over here, dude, if your parents took you out of high school at 15, 16 to go play soccer, they'd be like, you guys are really stupid.

You're going to ruin his future.

But it's because our culture and society, we value the education system.

And rightfully so, right?

Like, you should at least be able to get out of high school, in my opinion.

College, different conversation for another time.

But

when a kid graduates from college in the U.S.

and they go to the MLS, they're 21, 22 years old.

When they play someone from Europe, dude, they've been playing professional soccer for five, six years.

So that's why the gap is so different.

But now, a lot of our big players, bro, they play overseas and they're playing on like AC Milan, Chelsea, Arsenal, Man City.

It's not the San Jose earthquake.

Yeah, no, it's definitely leveling up.

It's cool to see they've gotten a lot better.

Even their B team is winning games now.

Yeah, they don't even need to have their full roster and they've been on a run where they've beaten Mexico like seven straight times, which,

you know, that's their big rival.

The CONCACAF.

You know, you got Jamaica and Costa Rica.

They kind of have their moments, but through the years, it's been Mexico versus the U.S.

And a lot of the Mexican fans are not happy about that because they're getting dominated too, dude.

And the U.S.

team now, they got a forward and Bulligan,

his rights were between Nigeria, the U.S., and England.

And he claimed the U.S., which was massive because now we have a center forward, which is like the only thing that the men's team really needed.

But, dude, I'm really optimistic about them really winning the World Cup in 2026.

It's dope, dude.

I'll never forget how good the Mexican goalie was.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, Choa.

Yeah.

Dude's a legend.

Icon.

I have nightmares about him blocking insane shots.

Penalty kicks, just like the swag about him.

Yeah, he's one of those guys that are going to live on forever.

Does he still play or is he retired now?

He still plays, but he's not as good as he once was.

I think he's like close to 40.

Yeah, he's got a lot of money.

And his time is coming to an end with the national team, but he's still just, you know,

you'll think that he's really old and then he'll save two penalty kicks in a game.

You're like, this guy could still do that, man.

What sports do you love watching at home versus in person?

Do you like watching at home more usually?

Bro, I I get so much shit for this one.

It's the NFL.

I hate going to NFL games.

Same, dude.

A little bougie.

I like going to primetime games.

And one of the reasons why is because the NFL product is so good, dude.

Like, you have your red zone, you have your Sunday ticket.

I'm a big better and fantasy player.

So I have all the apps open.

I'm on my couch.

Don't call me from 10 a.m.

to 5 p.m.

on a Sunday.

I will not answer.

Don't text me.

That's my alone time.

And it's so good on TV, dude.

And then when you go in person, you realize that the average football game, dude, I don't know if you know this, it's about 15 minutes long.

That's it.

The amount of time that the ball is in play from snap to whistle, if you accumulate that over an entire game, comes out to about 15 minutes.

That's nothing.

And if you think about it, it's really true, right?

Like, you know, quarterback hikes the ball, hands it to the running back, he picks up two, three yards, plays over, right?

Yeah.

So from snap to whistle, play is what, five, six seconds?

And then there's a 40-second play clock that they run down.

So, yeah, the game is a 60-minute game, but really, it's not like basketball where the ball's always in play.

It's not like hockey where the puck is always in play.

It's not like soccer where for 45 minutes we know the ball is going to be in play.

Football is a really short game if you really think about it.

And the TV product is so, so good

that I don't want to miss anything when I'm going to a one o'clock game.

Yeah.

And you can't see shit, honestly.

I mean, I was in the nosebleeds, granted, but I'm just not a fan of going into football stadiums.

Oh, dude.

And also, like, the last thing you want is, you know, we all have jobs and families or, you know, you go with your significant other to a game and like Chad and Kyle get into a fight behind you or they start heckling you because you're wearing a different jersey.

You're like, dude, I paid $300 for these things.

I don't want to get into a fight.

And one of the things that irks me the most, dude, and you know, I train martial arts and I do jiu-jitsu, I hate street fights.

I hate seeing videos of dudes just getting flatlined.

Really?

You see some of the videos of people in stadiums where they get punched and then they fall down like four flights of stairs.

Oh, Jesus.

Man, that's catastrophic, dude.

Yeah.

You know, you're hammered and whatnot and you're heckling people.

It's so dangerous, but I love seeing people get knocked out in the octagon because they're trained fighters.

Right.

You know what I mean?

Like they know what they signed up for, but it's dangerous going to games too, dude.

Yeah, if you're going up to going up against the Eagles, you got to.

Oh,

not a team i hate more in my life too so i'm glad that i'm actually upset that you mentioned them but you're a giants fan yeah big giants man man that rivalry is it gets physical man it does and also just you know i'm 32 years old i feel like my generation of giant fans we hate the eagles more than any franchise i've been talking about this for years now it's like dude they've ruined

Victor Cruz's career ended in Philly.

Every time the Giants go in there, they just get smoked by 30.

They played him in the playoffs, got smoked by 30.

Eli Manning would go in there.

It looked like he was a deer in the headlines, could never make any passes.

And, you know, he's one of the best quarterbacks that I've ever seen from my team.

I mean, without a doubt, but it's just a house of horrors, dude.

And they're known, the Philly Fanatics, right?

They're known for they booed Santa Claus.

Yeah.

They cheered when Michael Irving got stretchered off the field.

Like, that's what they're known for.

It's a hostile place.

So the fans are pretty rabid, also.

Why do you think Eli Manning gets so much hate?

I think it's because he's Peyton Manning's brother.

I think anytime you have siblings in a sport, one is always going to be better than the other.

And that's probably the closest

sibling rivalry, not even rivalry, just siblings in sports that both accomplish a lot of the same things.

Granted, Eli Manning didn't win a regular season MVP.

Peyton Manning is arguably the best quarterback of all time in the sense of how he plays the position.

The most accomplished is Tom Brady with the Super Bowls.

But Peyton is older brother.

Peyton was the face of the league.

Peyton was, he did it a lot cooler and cleaner and more flashy.

Where Eli Manning, I think, never threw a spiral in his career.

The ball always came out like,

you know, craziness.

And he ended up winning two Super Bowls, as many as Peyton did.

And it wasn't always pretty with Eli.

Dude would get slaughtered by New York media, dude.

Growing up in the East Coast and in New York City, it's like it was never good enough.

And I think that's why he gets a lot of heat.

Like Seth Curry, I think, is a great basketball player, but he's Steph's younger brother.

So it's like you're always going to be that thing where you're not going to be as good as the older sibling, or sometimes it's the younger sibling, too.

But I think that's why he gets a lot of heat.

Man, I love that analogy.

It's got to be tough on you mentally to be always someone's shadow almost.

Exactly.

And that's why when you do accomplish, it's, oh, but you're not Peyton.

Yeah, yeah.

It's like nothing you do is good at that.

It's literally never.

You won two Super Bowls and people still question if he's a Hall of Famer.

Like, you know what I mean?

Yeah.

And it's a ridiculous take that people have.

I think if you win multiple Super Bowls, you're automatically a Hall of Famer, especially if you're the QB.

Especially if you're the QB.

And also, dude, I think a big part of people's excellence in professional sports is your availability.

Dude, played 15 years, didn't miss a start.

Yeah.

I think that's a big part of your greatness.

LeBron James, 20 years, been

arguably a top five guy.

Pretty much every year.

19 of the 20 years, maybe his rookie year, he wasn't.

But then after that,

yeah, exactly.

It's like, man, there's something to be said about longevity and greatness, being consistent for that many years.

Dirk Nowitzki, Colby, Duncan.

It's like, dude, these guys have been great for that long.

Yeah.

That in and itself should just prove that they're on another level.

Dude, how many athletes have you had a chance to speak to or maybe interview on your show or even just been a fan of?

You're like, bro, I wish he stayed healthy.

Almost all of them, to be honest.

Yeah.

Like Paul George, like so many.

Dude, a ton of them, thousands of them.

Yeah.

And then when you look at guys that for 15 plus years, they're every game, man, they only sat out because it was load management.

It wasn't because they were injured.

I think that's a massive part of your grief.

Absolutely.

It's underrated.

Now, what do you think of this whole incident with Saquon Barkley not reaching a deal with the Giants?

Fully expected, without a doubt.

And

there's not a take that I have, Sean, in sports that I'm more hypocritical about.

the running back position.

If you're a running back,

hold out, get your money.

Your shelf life is three to four years that you're at your prime.

And a lot of these teams, they do what they're doing to these guys now.

They draft them high or they'll get them in their prime, they'll run them to the ground, and then they're like, oh, it's time for you to get paid.

Let's lowball you.

This is what happens to the running back position every single time.

There's a big name running back.

It happened with Alvin Kamara, happened with Zeke, it happened with Derrick Henry.

Eventually, you're no longer that guy.

And what what happens is early on in your career, you're the guy.

And then eventually, when it's time for you to make 12, 13, 15 million a year, which is what your market value should be, the running back position has been devalued because

we just saw the Kansas City Chiefs, bro, win the Super Bowl, and their running back that got 80% of the touches was a seventh round pick out of Rutgers.

It ain't exactly a football powerhouse, right?

You are?

Let's go.

Shout out to Rutgers.

East Club.

I know how how much they suck though but you know you're not going to rutter to find the next big star is what i'm saying you know you go to ohio state you go to alabama you go to michigan and they won a super bowl with a seventh round pick there's been teams over the last decade the average salary for an nfl running back that has won a super bowl is under three million dollars

because it's become so pass heavy right the quarterback is making north of forty million dollars if you have a certified alpha right What does the quarterback do?

He throws it.

So the wide receivers now are making more money.

You know, the Cincinnati Bengals are going to have probably two wide receivers if they could keep them that are going to make north of 25 million dollars t higgins and jamar chase but the game has changed so the running back gets devalued and it's super unfortunate because the reason why i say i'm so hypocritical is because if you're a running back yo hold out it's expected i was like yeah no he's gonna hold out josh jacobs on the raiders austin eckler he's led the league in touchdowns bro and back-to-back years you know how hard that is and they're like yeah we don't want to pay you like what the it's just it's just wild how the running running back position has been devalued but if i'm an owner if i'm a gm

i'm doing what they're doing

but for the player the the player side of things bro hold out get your money because this is what happens this is what they do to running backs so do you think the giants could go without saquan

he's a massive massive part of their offense like he's undoubtedly the best player on the offense However, the running back position, you have to also look at the organization where Brian Dable and Joe Schoen, who are the head coach in the GM, they come from Buffalo.

Buffalo hasn't had a really good running back at all during their time in Buffalo.

This was a team that went to the AFC title game.

They're winning their division, but they got the stud quarterback.

They got the stud wide receiver, and they built everything around them.

So can the Giants win without Saquon?

I want to say yes.

But I think he definitely, undoubtedly makes them a way better team.

For sure.

Have you ever hit any nasty parlays, like five or 10 teamers?

Yeah,

I've hit a couple.

Dude, there was a weekend in Vegas, March 2022.

I came for Colby Covington, Jorge Mazadal.

That was a headliner pay-per-view at the UFC.

I'm a huge UFC fan.

I have evidence of this because people don't believe me when I say it.

I hit...

Two four-leg parlays, a six-leg, and a nine-leg parlay.

What?

And Sean, I hit every single bet I made that weekend.

I love to bet props in the UFC, right?

Like a lot of people like parlays, but you could find a 12 to one

prop on someone to win by submission.

You hit that.

That's basically a

five to six leg parlay for the most part.

And I was hitting knockout first round for this guy, submission round two for that guy.

It was crazy.

And as the card is going on, I'm drinking more and more beer.

I'm drinking more and more beer.

And I'm telling my buddy Nick, who I was with, I was like, dude, when the main card started, we had all favorites left.

I was like, we might win like $20,000.

He's like, no way.

I'm like, I don't know if it's the core's light that's hitting right now, but I feel really good about this.

And after every fight, dude, I'm grabbing him.

I'm like,

I can't believe this.

And dude, we hit, I had

$21,600 worth of tickets cashed, like needed to be cashed in my jacket pocket walking around Las Vegas Boulevard, blitz at three in the the morning.

And you did you lose it?

No, no, no, no.

I won it.

Oh, thank God.

I get it.

No, come on.

We took it off you.

The way you were going with your story.

No, no, no.

But it was really dumb because at one point I went to take off my jacket and just leave it behind a chair.

And then I'm like,

am I going to do right now?

You can't have that happen.

Wait, so how much did you put up to win 21?

Oh, dude, like 300 bucks?

That's it?

Yeah.

I'm

a $50

nine-leg parlay that paid close to like $2,300.

Parlay was like $100.

And then the other ones were, you know, I had a three-legged parlay of knockout, knockout, submission, and $25 paid like $2K.

Jeez.

And then we had another crazy one.

Like, dude, it was nuts.

We did a $100 parlay where we took the nine fighters and that paid like 11.1.

Jeez.

It was crazy, man.

It'll never happen again.

Yeah.

I like how you only use your fun money on parlays because most people, they use their regular money on it and they get carried away and

they just get wrecked.

I don't get a lot of heat on social media, but when it comes to sports betting picks, when I post my five picks, I could go four and one.

And I'm like, oh, dude, four and one.

That's, I'll take four and one

the rest of my life every week.

And I'll get five to six people be like, oh, dude, you don't know.

I'm like, let me guess.

You parlayed.

Yeah.

Well, don't parlay, bro, because if you go four and one, Sean, and you bet $100, let's just use $100 because it's the easiest number for us to reference.

You go four and one, you hit for $400, you lose $100, you're still up $300 by straight betting them.

That's why professional bettors, they straight bet.

They hate parlays.

I do what you said.

Parlay is fun.

Yo, here's 20 bucks, man.

Let's go.

Sean, who do you like tonight to score over 30?

I like Paul Pierce.

I like, well, not Paul Pierce, Paul George.

I like Embiid and Harden.

All right, let's do it.

Here's 20 bucks.

Whatever happens.

That's fun.

I'm not expecting to win it.

It's fun.

I think sports betting is fun if you do that.

And yeah, the serious money, I straight bet it.

I love that.

I want to to touch up on your pod before we wrap up.

You've been doing it for eight years.

You were ahead of the game.

What have you learned throughout that whole journey?

Because you've really persevered for a long time.

Dude, I think perseverance, persistence are the two words I would use to describe me in all aspects of my life, especially when it comes to content creating.

Because I know the stuff is good.

It's just figuring out the algorithm, right?

I know you've been in the game too for a while now, too.

And it's like, well, now the algorithm wants this.

And then two weeks from now, it changes.

So I've just been consistent with it, man.

And I don't like to take no for an answer.

I'll shoot my shot at guest.

I'd rather hear no than not ask because in the end it's still a no, right?

So why not ask?

It's being consistent.

It's building an audience of a couple thousand people that listen to every show.

And that's been able to take me

to here where I record my stuff here at the Blue R studio, being a part of Blue R,

getting my foot in the door with Vee Sin.

And it's like, yeah, would I want millions of followers?

No, shit, everyone.

But it's understanding that that small that small portion of people that when i tell them hey man can you go and tag sean because i want to get him on my show they'll go and do it right so in 10 minutes you get 50 mentions of at nick days you'll be like who is this kid but i have that audience that'll go and do it that's cool when someone tweets out like oh i want to go on a podcast whose pod should i go i go to the discord or i'll put it on my instagram like hey reach out to sean tell him i want him on my pod they'll go and be like at veterans minimum at nick days i love it and it's like yeah yeah, dude, like

it's 30, 40 people spamming you all in 10 minutes.

You're going to notice that.

Yeah, you're going to see that.

So it's, I tell content creators this all the time, like, don't ignore your fan base.

Don't ignore your supporters.

Do we all want hundreds of thousands?

Yeah, we all do.

But those 500, those thousand, those 2,000 people that listen to your content all the time,

it's basically like having 20, 30, 50,000 downloads or listeners.

Yeah.

That's how I view it.

No, I love that.

So on my Instagram, I think 100 people a week that repost my clips.

I would do more, but I get blocked from messaging that many.

And on YouTube, I try to respond to as many comments as I can.

Dude, there becomes an instant connection, man.

Like, I remember the first time I had an athlete repost something to mine, just like a tweet.

I was like, that's dope.

Yeah.

And to have, to even think that someone would feel that way, like when I repost someone's stuff, they're like, yo, I can't believe you replied.

I was like, you can't.

Of course I replied, you know, like, but I can imagine with you, with the millions of followers that you have, it's probably, it gets overwhelming sometimes.

I literally get blocked on Instagram.

It's happened to me a few times because when I thank, I guess you can only message a certain amount of people in a short time frame.

So if I thank like 10 people in a row, I'll just start getting blocked.

But on YouTube, I try to, there's so many comments on YouTube, but I try to reply to a lot of them.

You know, you can make someone's day by just replying.

Yeah.

You know,

I don't think of myself highly or anything special.

I love to have fun.

I love to goof around.

I like to poke fun at myself too.

And to think that someone would be appreciative of me responding to a comment or a tweet is wild to me.

But also, like, I put myself in their position.

Yeah, it's a little thing.

So I learned that trick from Gary Vee, actually, because I think he spends 10 minutes a day responding to DMs and stuff.

Who's the one person that you'd like mark out, to use the wrestling term?

Like you lose your shit if they replied to you.

If they replied to me, probably Elon Musk.

Wow.

Okay.

I've seen so many of his interviews.

Like, I love the way he...

Because the thing with super intelligent people people is they can't articulate themselves to the general public usually.

But Elon's able to do that, which is a huge skill to have.

I love that pick.

Mine would be LeBron.

That'd probably be in my top three.

LeBron, dude, because I mean, how old are you, Eli?

26.

Yeah, I'm 32.

So, like, he's the first mega star of social media.

Yeah.

And he's the first dude that I could remember his first game against the Kings.

Yeah, I remember that.

Like, I literally watched his entire career.

You have.

Yeah, that's nuts.

And to be able to comprehend it, too, you know, like I saw, I saw Jordan play the Knicks in 1997.

Bro, I was six years old.

I don't really remember.

I just remember being there.

I couldn't tell you like what he did or whatnot.

I'd have to go and, you know, fake flex that I remember that game.

But with LeBron, like, dude, I remember everything.

I remember the 20, 25, 29 straight points he scored against Detroit.

You know, I remember the wars with the Celtics when he went to the heat and the, you know, the wars continued and winning the tie, like everything, bro.

He's the first mega star.

And

to be great for 20 years, like we were talking about earlier on this episode, is just wild to me.

And what's the bad mistake he's made?

He made the decision where he donated a ton of money to the Boys and Girls Club anyway.

Like, that's the thing he gets the most heat for.

But and going to the heat.

And going to the heat, yeah.

But he opened it up, man, because now everyone kind of just, I say, I would never buy an NBA jersey nowadays because dudes sign five years, 230 million, and then they're like, yo, I don't want to play no more.

Yeah.

Nick, what's next for you, man?

What guests you got coming up?

What you working on?

Right now, we're in the process of gearing up for the football season.

We got the NFL preview show that drops every year, it's going to be the ninth one, Sean, that I'm doing, so it's like the flagship episode of Veterans Minimum that'll be coming out.

Uh, I don't know when this is gonna air, but it's always Labor Day weekend, it's that Monday.

It's the longest episode I do, dude.

How long?

Close to like four hours, straight, straight breaks, straight through, no, yeah, tossing back a couple cold ones too, so we get a little spicier as the show goes.

Yeah, it definitely helps, but you know, the reason why it's the longest, all my episodes are about 45 to an hour.

I think that's a nice sweet range there.

But this one is you're breaking down 32 teams.

You're breaking down predictions and yardage leaders and MVPs and all that stuff.

So it's a, it's a huge deep dive.

It's basically that, man.

And, you know, I had you on my show, too, that did really well.

And I appreciate you for that.

Yeah.

And you guys can go and check that one out too.

But it's at Veterans Minimum is the name of my show.

Not a veteran, by the way.

It's just a play on words.

I always get that I'm a veteran, but it's it's a play on words in the sports world.

When a guy is about to retire, they want to still play, you know, taste that veteran's minimum.

Every league has one.

And yeah, man, at Nick Day is 10 is my social media.

And I'm doing a lot of dope, dude.

So just follow along and you'll be excited.

I'll be keeping an eye on you, brother.

Thanks for coming on.

Thank you for having me.

Thanks for watching, guys.

See you next time.