Matias De Stefano on Increasing Lifespan, Remembering Past Lives and Summoning Rain | DSH #190|

You went out in the desert and you were able to summon rain.

Yes.

How are you able to do that?

We all are able to do that when you are open

to

many things.

When you summon something, it's not because you think that that something is outside of you.

It's because you become it.

You become the rain.

Ladies and gentlemen, he is back for part two.

I don't have many guests on a second time, so I'm honored to be here with you, man.

Yeah, thank you.

What you been up to since we last spoke six months ago?

Anything interesting?

So many things.

Where to begin?

I've been everywhere.

Yeah, you love travel.

You went to Egypt.

Yeah, I went to Egypt,

to Switzerland, Diechenstein, Greece, Canary Islands, North Pole.

Wow.

So many places.

Are these all spiritual journeys or just

I'm like in a kind of

sometimes it's because I organize some trips there, but sometimes because of a conference, but mainly because I'm following clues, trying to

make a map of something of project that I'm trying to build up.

Wow.

And every country and every part of the planet has a clue for me to put together.

When you say clue, is that sort of a message from the universe you're seeing that inclines you to go there?

Yeah, you know, when you say

when sometimes people say, oh, this is like a deja vu, or

I just realized about something, or this must be a sign, you know, these kind of things.

We are not used to pay attention to that.

Some people get very crazy by following them.

Some others don't pay attention.

So I'm using that as a as a work.

Interesting.

Like the patterns that are in the world, they're always there for people to pay attention to them.

So what's your interpretation on deja vu?

Is that a past life memory sort of resurfacing, subconscious is picking up on it?

What exactly is deja vu?

It could be many times.

The word deja vu,

deja vu in French is

I already seen it.

That's what it means.

And it's mainly it's basically your brain interpreting codes of things that you have already seen many times and it put them all in the same package, like saying this kind of is the same.

So it's a good way to

understand

how many times have you lived something or how many times have you been in the same circle?

So

when you say it's a deja vu, it's not maybe a spiritual being telling you

this is a sign, but it's your own brain telling you this is something that has happened many times to you and you're not paying attention so we put it in a in a library or in a folder in your brain that says whenever happens again pay attention yeah yeah so is that library is that the akashic records it's the akashic records of course uh because it's everywhere but uh we can also relate it to our nerve system yeah so our nerve system works like the akashic so and the akashic records does everyone have access to that everyone and that's just a collection of all the memories, right?

Yes, yes.

It's in a quantum level.

So it's everywhere all the time.

And

we mostly access that when we dream.

But when we interpretate the dreams, it's very complicated to understand it.

But actually, it's everywhere.

I usually call it like a public library.

Yeah, and people don't even realize.

But you can learn a lot in your dreams.

There's a lot of messages.

You can learn a lot.

Yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

I actually keep a dream journal every night because there's so many lessons, hidden meanings,

stuff that you wouldn't pick up while you're not dreaming.

Yeah, and that's the level of the subconscious.

And the subconscious is basically building everything that we know.

Like, we don't pay attention to that because we got used to it.

But

every color that I see around,

the texture of the air, temperature,

the sight of a person.

So anything that is around is controlled by the subconscious.

Like the first time that we saw the color black in our existence,

what registry has a memory related to what was happening when we saw that color black, for example.

So every time that we see that color tells us something.

But

we stop paying attention to it.

So

because it's so much data that you cannot pay attention to it.

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Everything.

So all the other senses take care of that information.

So when you dream, when you go to sleep, your brain starts to organize all that information that you received and you didn't pay attention to.

So it all comes back in a package of data.

that is in the subconscious, which is where most of the information of the Kashik is all the time.

Interesting.

So that's why we don't usually pay attention.

And the way you can access that is when you

dream or allow yourself to dream awaken.

Yeah.

When you imagine, when you think like a child,

you start to see the patterns.

Yeah, daydreaming.

I've been studying dreaming.

There's some people with the abilities to enter other people's dreams.

Have you seen that before?

Yeah, yeah.

So, what does that,

why do some people have that ability, you think?

Why do they have it?

Maybe they have

a very open subconscious because because in the subconscious, there is no division.

There's no other people.

It's all the same network of information.

It's all the same code.

So if you say a person, you enter the package of humanity.

So humanity is like a I don't know.

It's like

saying we all have an app like Instagram in our phone.

Our devices are different, but the app has the same code.

Even if we charge different information and different pictures or or whatever, the code on the back is the same.

So

when you go to the subconscious, it's like that.

It's like you enter the code of that.

So if you know how to handle the code, you become a hacker.

Interesting.

So it's like a universal code that if you understand it, you can do certain things.

And I will say, I heard a crazy story about you.

I won't name drop the person.

Okay.

But he told me you were in Las Vegas once.

You went out in the desert and you were able to summon rain.

Yes.

How are you able to do that?

We all are able to do that when you are open

to many things.

It's just that our culture closes so much that we barely

understand the power that we have.

And when you summon something, it's not because you think that that something is outside of you.

It's because you become it.

You become the rain, you become the storm.

And

for the last gathering that we did,

I was invited here in Las Vegas.

I cannot stand much the city here.

So I ran to the nature.

I don't blame you.

So the first thing I did was to go to the Great Canyon.

And

I was asking there, why am I here?

So I allow myself

to become the nature, to become everything.

And as I was activating that with my own self, not being me, but in another,

like in a dream realm, but being awakened,

suddenly the storm started to appear and the static started to be very high.

So basically I grabbed that

thing and pull it to Las Vegas.

Wow.

When I came here in order to wash it for the cleansing of the energy for the gathering

because they told me.

And

it rained a lot.

It doesn't rain that much here.

So the fact that you were able to summon it and become it, it's pretty crazy.

Yeah, it was crazy.

And I also saw you just went to Arizona with a group of people during the eclipse, right?

Yes.

So what was the mission behind gathering in a circle formation like that during the eclipse?

Eclipses are very

tricky energy moments.

Some people from all traditions they say are

a dark portal,

portal for darkness.

So they say you shouldn't do anything.

For example, here, the native people, they locked themselves so they don't see when that happens.

There are many traditions that say that this is a dark moment, so we shouldn't.

we shouldn't do any energetical thing.

And of course, there are other people, like me, that say no this is the only moment when we could actually see the shadow and the things that we are not facing right so it's like doing therapy but in a big scale wow so um

so when you see the shadow projected of the of of the moon or the earth on the moon um

when you see that you can actually perceive the subconscious of a lot of information that are around the planet or and the people, the animal kingdom, the vegetable kingdom, they all start to act weird, like because everything gets weird.

So, all the fears and stuff start to go out.

So, basically, it's like doing a huge therapy, trying to understand what is in the shade of all this region.

Wow.

And what should we pay attention to in order to bring light to it?

Because it's easy to be, you know, like a light worker

and always be in the dark in the in the light

like that's not work right like that's holidays all the time yeah so um so when you actually go to the shadows to the shade to the dark side of our reality you can actually see where are the codes that keeps us locked in a trap right all the time um it's like

like I said, like going to therapy and trying to see what is hidden within you.

Interesting.

So

we did this gathering and we went to Horshuben

to

see the eclipse, to be connected to the eclipse, and

to

open ourselves to see what was why everything is happening right now in the world.

Yeah.

So on.

What did you learn from that?

Well, I learned, I I learned about the trap of eclipses.

We have solstice and equinoxes every year, which is the Holy Cross, the actual Holy Cross

is the medicine wheel for the native people,

where you actually combine and cross all the data and information of the light in the planet for the process of life.

And then we have another cross every year, which is two solar eclipse and two moon eclipse.

And that means that that's the dark,

the darkness cross.

So, what I learned from that is that we are subconsciously controlled by the cross of time during the eclipses.

And we repeat that system once and again.

And

there are ways in which we can use that cross to get out of the system instead of being trapped in the system.

That's crazy.

But that's part of the pursuit.

Like, okay, what should we do?

What can we do?

Yeah.

So when you say system, does that mean most people are just following a script?

Like we're in the matrix?

What kind of system do you mean?

Systems means that

everything is a pattern.

Like everything that exists is a pattern.

And not talking about humanity, talking about atoms.

Like

we are basically an atomic realm organized in a different way.

So

we are basically the mind of the atoms being expressed.

So the atoms organize themselves in patterns, patterns of frequency, of magnetism.

So protons, neutrons, electrons,

they connect with others, creating molecules and so on in a pattern.

So Trinity, four or six.

So they follow that pattern and they create the reality through that.

established pattern that

was created before.

So

a system basically means the code of patterns that creates everything from the very first atom.

So when you

it's basically like the reading of one zero zeros one one one zero like algebra

that creates the this

for example.

Yeah.

So this table is also created by a kind of algebra that is not an image, but is

an idea

of atoms.

So basically, it says all the tables are based on the same concept or the same pattern.

So all the people that are living in one culture have the same pattern and so on.

So when you read the patterns, you understand the system.

That's basically what it is.

That makes sense.

And there's people that can exploit the system, like you said earlier, and those people can levitate.

They could do crazy things.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Wow, that's interesting but very few people get to that stage yeah

and mainly because we have been culturally controlled uh sometimes on purpose sometimes by mistake just it happened yeah uh

but we have been disconnected from our reality which is atomic reality, quantum reality.

That is the only reality that actually exists.

All the rest is just a perception.

So all the perceptions, ideas,

projections that we have are conditioning our way of relating with the whole, with the everything.

And that's what makes us be so limited.

Yeah.

That's what makes us believe,

maybe this is not true.

Or

I had this

moment of clarity, but maybe I'm imagining that.

You know, this these moments of doubting yourself or doubting

reality

and

culture saying you're crazy or judging the others because they are doing something different

or because they're not doing something established by the common, you know.

And today with the social media, it's like

more, yeah, it's amplified.

It's like more people are doing whatever they want, but more people are being judged.

Yeah.

So at the same time.

So more freedom, but also more conditionings more scrutiny yeah absolutely it's a double-edged sword right yeah so

so uh

those things

makes us become trapped in our own system so that's why i say i say that uh it's not always i don't know a social not like a secret society that is trying to control us right

Actually, those society, those secret societies are born because they saw how we create those systems.

Like, oh, look how these people is creating a repeated system.

Maybe we can use it.

Yeah.

So it's not the other way around.

It's not that there are societies, secret societies that wants to control humanity.

Basically, they exist because we make it very easy.

Yeah.

I never thought of it that way, but that makes sense.

So they're speaking of social media, there's a viral movement going on right now that people believe the Earth is flat.

Oh, yeah.

Now, as someone who remembers being an alien in a a past life and has experience,

what's been your experience with the space, solar system, all that?

That in the universe, nothing is flat.

Right.

That nothing is actually flat in the universe.

Everything tends to create a point of gravity or the forces to hold everything together into a core.

Everything finds the core.

and you can actually see it everywhere in nature.

You can see it everywhere in the universe, in the cosmos.

The organization, it doesn't matter the shape, it will always turn back to become a toroid

because

the basic structure of everything, like in a total in subatomical particles,

is positive and negative.

So

every reality is created by a positive and negative.

And when you try to see the invisible aspect of the positive and negative, it creates the shape of an apple, which is a magnetical field.

So it means that everything is brought towards the positive or the negative to a center.

It doesn't matter where it is.

So it all creates the shape of a sphere.

Right, planets.

Like planets, like galaxies.

The galaxies, even if they are flat,

they are

hold in this shape of magnetical field.

Okay.

So there is an ending point then.

It's not like.

It's like this.

All the time is like this.

Even if it's invisible invisible it creates always this shape right so the idea of flat it doesn't even exist in the mineral realm like when we see uh i don't know a flat surface actually it's not flat actually is it's um

it has imperfections that tend to go to the rounded shape

um wow yeah it's it's it's everywhere like that yeah and i've also seen you speak about the galactic confederation uh yeah and uh in my memories of that every planet was rounded yeah every yeah so it was controlled by a space uh organization um it's uh i would describe it like the galactic confederation is a conjunction of planets or civilizations that evolved to understand

the consciousness of their planets

so it's not uh an organization controlling the galaxy for example or because we we tend to relate it with the UN,

maybe,

or a parliament or something like that.

But actually, for this kind of civilizations, it's more about being in the right tune.

So

when you go into the right

level of consciousness, you start to understand that every reality, everything that exists is related to vibration.

So it's one of the main laws of everything.

So if you want to connect or communicate with another part of the galaxy, you have to find the right tune to do it.

So they are not political

civilizations that control other worlds.

They are just communicating by resonance or frequency.

So that's why they don't actually travel in spaceships to one planet to another, but they actually download themselves by frequency to people living

that are in their own resonance.

So, is that teleportation?

Kind of.

Yeah.

In a quantum level.

Yeah, because people assume spaceships, but it wouldn't make sense because it's so far away to be able to get to the point.

Yeah, it's too far away to travel.

Yeah, so where did that get lost?

Because now we've been trying to communicate with other planets and haven't had any luck for the past hundred years or so.

Yeah.

So was it in ancient times where we had that communication?

Yes.

But the moment when we had that communication was when we understood that the universe was not outside, was within.

So, if you see all the civilizations in the past that talked about aliens or that communicated with them, there were civilizations that kind of discovered the technology of the body, the technology of

the technology of the stones.

And they didn't have like spaceships or

phones.

They basically used their own body as tuning forks.

They used their own bodies as the way to communicate

with other realms.

And so

that's why we lost the communication with other beings from other worlds when we stopped believing in the cosmos within and we started to create God outside.

Wow.

And what year approximately was that change?

That was after

the end of the last glaciation around 11,000 years ago.

11,000.

Wow, that's a long time.

Yeah, a long time.

So, humans have been around for longer than taught in school then.

Humans have been here for at least 3 million years, though.

Wow.

3 million years.

Because they teach way differently as humans.

Right.

As we know them today,

like walking Neanderthals and so on.

Yeah.

So since, of course, the first two million years, we were just another species becoming clever.

The last million years, we started to connect with other realities and other realms,

but without civilization.

The past 30,000 years we started to create civilizations, but not specifically related to agriculture.

The past 12,000 years, 15,000 years maybe, we started to create the first civilizations, but not based specifically in agriculture like we have today.

It was after the glaciation that we started to create settlements

like we know today

because

of the cold,

we were able to, the cold going away, we were able to finally

settle in other places that before it was impossible.

Yeah, so before we were on a

level playing field with other animals, but it it seems like humans were able to surpass all other animals, become the apex predator, right?

And that was through community and our brains just evolved faster than other animals.

And that idea of evolution, that we come from fish in the water.

Yeah.

Is that true?

Yeah, of course.

Of course it's true.

Evolution, of course, as I remember, evolution is the clue of everything.

The thing is that, of course, there were many moments of

intervening of other beings in the middle like uh from other worlds bringing some dna some data downloading something

so it was not like um only aliens or only fish got it so it was a it was a whole process wow so do you have any past lives you remember as other animals or other beings yeah yeah totally wow i i i since i was a child i i i wrote some stories about remembering how to be a plant, a rock,

a bird.

Yeah, not much interesting.

Yeah, I was going to say, what was it like being a rock?

Compared to humans, it's like, okay.

Yeah.

Well, you cannot think.

So

it's very different to explain.

It's not like, yeah, I was in the desert.

No, it's...

the feeling of it is not emotional.

It's It's like everything that's like

that's that's the feeling, like heat cold, heat cold, and it's the breathing of the stone.

And

yeah, I felt,

I remember feeling all that and being the stone, but not seeing the stone.

Like I couldn't.

Interesting.

So you don't have any vision and you don't have a brain to think.

So you're just feeling.

Yeah, feeling a pulse.

Yeah.

It was feeling a pulse of like magnetism like or statics like

going through me.

And

the pulse of heat and cold,

it was like a breathing.

It was interesting how to feel it.

Yeah.

But now, as a human, I can understand that it was day and night, day and night, and cold and heat.

So,

yeah.

And how does your soul transfer from that life?

Because rocks are, I guess, living for many years, right?

Yes.

Minerals,

when the water or the wind hits the stones, the little grains of salt,

the little grains of silica, they fly all over.

And for example, from, I was,

I think, if I locate myself,

I was as a rock in a place called Ahagar today.

It's in Argel, in the middle of the desert.

And now, if you can see the dust of the Sahara desert for thousands, millions of years

have been

blown away to the Atlantic Ocean and they all fall into the rainforests in the Amazon.

So all the dust and the

rocks that are eroded to

they fly to the plants in the Amazon.

So eventually

they become minerals for the trees.

Wow.

So you become vegetal.

So you suddenly become a tree.

And maybe that tree is eaten by an animal.

And that animal is eaten by a person.

And you suddenly become a human.

So that's how it works.

Yeah.

So at one point, we were all rocks then.

Yeah.

Wow.

We all were mineral at the beginning.

Because we are actually mineral.

Like you, you need minerals to survive.

Yeah.

There's a reason why because we are created by minerals.

Our

structure, animal, vegetable, fungi,

we are basically

from the mineral realm because we need calcium, we need silica, we need phosphorus.

So if you take a look inside of you, you are all minerals.

You are a mountain.

Fast.

So is human the final form then, or is there more levels?

Oh, I know there are more.

Yeah.

There are more.

We're just starting.

Oh, so there's a lot more.

Oh, yeah.

Okay.

Of course.

So I found out I've lived lived 500 lives, past lives.

So now I'm wondering what's next.

And is it alien?

And then there's more after that.

Well, for sure, there's going to be much more.

And

this planet just has discovered what humans is, what humanity are.

I mean,

it's just 3 million years we have been here.

And if you think about the history of the planet,

that's nothing.

That's nothing.

We're just a new species trying to discover what can we become.

Wow.

Yeah.

I guess when you zoom out, we're just a speck of dust.

Yeah, we're nothing.

Yeah,

we are nothing.

Wow.

Yeah, we are just discovering it.

That's crazy to think about.

So how long has the universe been around then?

Well, according to science, I don't know the number, but it's

when we talk about the universe, we have to think about the visible one or the invisible one

because there is a mark of the universe being billions of years because you can see the light from the very beginning.

You can analyze how long has this light been traveling since the very moment, the first moment.

But actually, the universe is not just the visible.

So science says the universe was created

in a specific moment, but they are they relate that to the

infrared waves that we can perceive from the explosion.

But what was before,

there was no time because time is only related to the speed of light and the gravity.

So you can actually know when

it did actually happen.

Yeah, time is just made up, right?

It's relative.

It's very relative.

Yeah.

So you've explored a lot of the past, your past, the universe's past.

Have you done anything in the future?

Have you explored anything in the future?

The future, the

close future?

I guess, yeah.

Have you come across any people that have powers that can kind of predict your future?

Do you believe in that stuff?

Oh, yeah, yeah, of course, of course, because the future is just

high vibration.

So, whoever

finds the way to pitch themselves into that high speed of the electrons or particles, so you can see the future.

But the future,

because

it moves so fast,

the future can be perceived

can be

uh interpreted like you can see

but you will only see the future that is according to the vibration that you have today

so

means that there are many possibilities right and we can change those possibilities all the time uh because

The particle starts to divide once and again according to the observer.

Yeah.

So you could change your future.

All the time.

That's good to know because I've been scared to talk to certain psychics and stuff because I don't want to know my future because then you're living with that in the back of your mind, you know what I mean?

And you create it, yeah, and you're going to manifest it exactly.

So, I'd rather just live in the present as much as I can, yeah, yeah, you can, you can actually change the future, um, of course, from the point of view, for the from the point of view of someone that doesn't believe in this, it's like, yeah, of course, you can change the future because it doesn't exist.

So, but according to the quantum reality is

you can you can it's not that you can uh that it doesn't exist is that you will change the course of the future according to how you vibrate yeah it's like um it's like you have a river and there's a river going to the sea the outcome will be you will end up in the sea There's no other way.

You will end up in the sea.

But

maybe then there's a delta and you have many other streams of the river.

Okay.

So

imagine the future being all these different streams.

And as you go in the main river, you will have different options to get there.

Interesting.

So the final outcome is determined.

So you believe we all have a date that we die and that can't be changed?

No, it can be changed according because the river can be shorter or longer.

Got it.

So,

but the thing is that the outcome is part of the system.

So the final thing, the final product, not your death, the death is just another option.

But

the final product of why you exist

is encoded in your system.

So that's why people can read their future, because if they can read your system, if they can understand if you are a triangle or you are a square,

you will know what is going to happen next.

If you're a triangle, you will have only three angles.

If you are a pentagram, you will have five angles.

So,

that's what it means: someone can read your future

because they can read your structure.

Right.

Have you heard of any super spiritual people being able to extend their lifetime?

Because I had a Taoist master on here.

He said he's met some people that have lived to 150 years old.

Yeah.

So, have you witnessed any of that?

I haven't witnessed it, but I know it's possible.

And I know for certain

that it's totally possible.

But it's all related on how you eat, how you breathe, and how you proceed in life.

It's

because basically

what makes you die faster is if you breathe faster.

Because

actually the cells start to die because of oxygen.

Wow.

So you're saying not to do cardio?

I'm trying not to.

Maybe because I'm lazy.

That's what they teach you to be healthier.

Yeah, you to be healthier.

Yeah, of course.

Not to be longer.

Not to live longer.

So that's the chop of the system.

Like, okay, you want to be healthier, you have to, but also you have to practice the correct, the right breathing.

Yeah.

Because if you

if you usually we breathe like if we try to survive

like like this.

We all do that, yeah.

Um,

but people that live longer usually is because they acquire this ability of

breathe very slow

and

breathe out very slow, right?

And sometimes they don't even feel that they are breathing because they're holding the air for so long and they come back.

So, um,

so that helps the body to not waste energy every time that the cells absorb energy.

Wow.

Because the energy is absorbed by oxygen

in the cells.

So it creates that reaction of strength and forces.

So as faster

you breathe,

the fastest you burn your cells.

Wow.

I got to keep an eye on that because I breathe too fast, man.

So

that's why meditation

or living in the high mountains where you have to walk slowly and everything, you know, like in Tibet or in Peru, Bolivia, these people tend to kind of live longer, maybe

because they

live like a turtle.

Yeah, they call it blue zones.

There's five of them, and I think all of them are in mountainous regions, actually.

So that makes a lot of sense.

I actually just went to Bolivia.

Have you been there?

Yes.

Yeah, I liked it there a lot.

Yeah.

Felt very good there.

There's certain places you travel to, and you just something about it, you feel really good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't know how to explain it.

Yeah.

Have you done ayahuasca recently?

Not recently.

Okay.

No.

You're taking a break from psychedelics for now?

No, no, no.

No.

Actually,

this year for me has been a try.

It was the first time that I tried

mushrooms.

Okay.

Also, how was that?

Great.

Yes.

Yes.

It feels, well, for me, it feels like home.

Yeah.

It's like, yes.

And I

and it's, it's amazing because I, uh,

it ables me to, to connect and go deeper into the system.

And uh, many, many crazy things happen.

I love mushrooms.

I microdosed them.

Yeah.

But you did a full trip.

Like, yes,

Of course.

Yeah.

Were you alone or with people?

I was with a friend.

Okay.

Yeah.

And I wanted to access the information of

something that I needed to understand.

So I created a portal at home with 32 books.

Wow.

Like Tao, Quran, Torah, the Bible,

the food of gods,

the Kibalion.

So many different books.

The the Book of Dead, the Egyptian Book of Dead, the Tibetan Book of Dead.

So I put like 32 of those books

and

I didn't like to read.

So I accessed the information through the mushrooms.

Wow.

So I

opened the portal and I was reading them like that.

So you didn't even have to open the book.

You were just reading that.

No, I haven't.

And I was explaining to my friend in front everything that how they all connected, and

they shaped the idea of something that we all have to do eventually in a project.

But I understood that from entering the magnetical field of the books.

Wow, so there's a connection between every religion, you're saying

everything is exactly related, like they all have the same

pattern.

What's the pattern?

The patterns are codes that are

hidden through time and space through all the different messages that came in different times, different timelines that connected with that specific realm in the fifth dimension to download the information.

So there are many stories that makes no sense, but in the middle of that,

there are many codes to...

to understand the way where we should move and it's go and it goes beyond God, beyond...

Yeah, it's...

um fascinating yeah there are many things that

yeah so you don't tie yourself to one religion you're very open to different perspectives yeah they are all perspectives of the universe so right it's like I don't know it's it's like saying

um

like choosing between one star or the other I don't know it's like they they all have different shine shining they all have different information yeah and you cannot see the universe without all of them.

And it seems like these days, religion is very divisive, um, like they kind of put each other against each other, you know.

Oh, yeah, it's it's it's been always like that since religion was not related to faith but politics, right?

Yeah, when did that start happening?

Uh,

I

think

500,000 years ago.

Oh, so a lot okay, I thought it was recent.

Oh, no, no, no, this, this, this has been always related to the alpha male.

Humans, we are mammals, so we move in herds.

And

because we move in herds, we always need the wise one that is in the herd, and also we need the leader to tell us where to go, how to hunt, how to survive.

So we rely the survival of the herd to someone that knows where he's going.

And usually in

our biological history, usually a male took care of that when we were traveling and

a woman took care of that when we were settling.

So in that system that we created, we always created a pyramidal society in which we rely the power on someone.

So when that someone was the one connecting to the truth,

we kind of trust completely what that person was saying.

And eventually,

some of those leaders created a system for all of the people to connect with the same information, and some other leaders created a system of all the others working for him

because he knew the system.

Wow.

So, in these two ways,

one,

what happened

when the whole society and population knows the truth they cannot form a civilization

because in order to have a civilization that thrives

you need people that follows people

right because you need structures you need you need people that will

play

an order like okay if you tell me do this i will do it

so uh in a in a structured society you need defense for example uh in the past i'm talking about the first beginning of humanity so if someone comes to attack

you must attack to defend yourself for example um

so if everyone attacks in a different way you maybe lose yeah the war so you need someone to tell you how to do it when to do it how to follow orders So because of that, the people that follow orders should not be connected to themselves because otherwise they don't follow orders.

They're just awakened beings that go to the tree and talk to God.

So that's why in order to create an empire or a kingdom, they needed to control the ability of people to connect themselves with God.

Wow.

So yeah, back then there was a lot of wars too, right?

Oh yeah.

It was terrible because it was about survival.

Everything could.

everyone could

so it was all about survival and um

so because of that we created the idea of religion and cultures as a way to make us survive not as a way to connect us

as a way to say okay if we are christian and i am christian we can get together and we understand each other right so we can make a force against the other one that is in front of us that we don't know so so religion stopped being being a way to connect, it became a way of defense.

To survive.

To survive.

Wow.

And

that's why people fight for religion because they want to survive.

Even still to this day.

Defend the territory, defend an idea,

a position, a political.

But if they look deeper into it, like you said, they're all connected with the same goal.

They are the same.

Yeah.

Yes.

Is it true telling the truth is high vibration that releases some high vibration energy?

Truth.

yeah

it's a high vibration that's why it's impossible to know it

because it's like the future truth is always changing it's not real really yeah you can't tell the truth no

wait why is it always changing uh it's always changing because uh truth is a it's a perception uh like for like there is always something new to discover like for example science would say no there is a truth There is a,

you can prove this and prove that and so on.

Yeah.

Until they discover quantum physics.

When they discover quantum physics, it's like, I kind of get it.

You got it right on the bottom.

And I was like,

what does it mean?

You know, like, so there's a moment in the inner core of reality that nothing that you even thought it was true is actually true.

Like, not even physics is true.

You know, so what is the truth?

Yeah.

Well, truth is a perception that always changes according to the consciousness.

So it's the same thing with lying then, too.

Yeah.

There's no lies.

So there's no lies.

There's only different perceptions of the truth.

There's no truth.

There is always different perceptions of something.

So that's why I usually say what I'm saying right now is not truth.

It's just a slice of the truth that I experience and that it becomes true as a lot of people share the same truth.

So,

for example,

in this sense, we can say, okay, so if a lot of people say that there's a God, is there a God?

Yes, in the fifth dimension there is, because you created it.

If the earth is flat, if the earth is not flat, but a lot of people believe that it's flat,

is the earth flat?

Well, in a slice portion of truth, which is three kilometers, yes, it's flat.

So,

so

everything has a slice of truth.

So, you're saying if there's enough people that believe in it, they can make it true.

They can make it true, but also it means that there is a part of it that is true.

Wow.

But because we are so

we want for our truth to become the whole truth,

we tend to say, I saw that this is true, so this must be the truth for everybody.

and that's the conflict that we have yeah because we collide with each other truth when actually each other truth com complements the other truth it completes the other truth yeah each person has a different truth right exactly so if we if we are compassionate to the truth of others what we can start doing is to shape the idea of everything yeah but if we lose more time trying to argue with the other one is lying and i'm saying the truth.

So we are losing energy into discovering the actual truth.

Yeah, mind-blowing.

Yeah, it's very complex.

So I know humans.

Yeah.

So I know humans are made up of energy, right?

Is everyone born with positive energy at first?

Positive?

Yeah.

Like meaning good?

Good, yeah.

No.

Oh, really?

I don't think so.

Okay.

Like, I think

because actually,

in terms of energy, when you talk about positive, if something is completely positive, it becomes toxic.

This is a

natural law.

Really?

Like,

it becomes toxic and can become a disease.

Wow.

If you are completely negative, it also can happen that.

So the extremes are not good.

So you need both, you're saying.

You need both.

Otherwise, you're not created.

You cannot create anything if you don't have both things.

And because we are not being born at first,

we are just energy.

So we are a consequence.

Someone that is born is not a new person.

Someone that is born is the consequence of many people.

So

you are entangled constantly into positive and negative.

And you have the information of all the positive and negative things that happen before you in your DNA, in your energy, in your culture, everything.

So, you are the result of that.

Wow.

But

being born completely pure is very complicated.

It's actually something.

So, there's no one that has just pure energy.

There's always a balance.

Yes.

Wow.

Because you look at guys like Mr.

Beast that are so giving to charities and you just assume it's all positive.

But I guess they have a negative side too.

They need to, but the negative is not bad.

Sometimes the negative, for example,

I don't know, like let's say a person that was very positive and made everyone happy and

Robin Williams.

Yeah.

He's himself.

Right.

Why?

Because he was giving so much happiness to everybody and he was such a good person that suddenly he compensated with depression.

And that one was crazy.

So

that's why we need a balance because it's not that you are

you have to be a bad person or a good person yeah it's that a lot of positivity can be also toxic because it creates the same amount of energy in the opposite side toxic positivity yeah exactly yeah i've heard that before yeah man yes you really need that balance because i grew up in a pretty negative environment

so i now i'm trying to offset it but it's an interesting battle i've had sometimes the negative uh the negative and the positive are tools, not a way of living.

I would say that.

In order for your body to move forward, you need positive and negative all the time.

So if you don't have positive and negative discharges, your muscles cannot move, for example.

So

think about that in your life.

If you don't have a negative thing happening to you, you don't move forward.

That's true, because in business, especially,

you need to fail to move forward.

Yeah.

So

in everything, you need a crisis to know how to move forward.

Right.

And

that's a law of the universe, polarity.

So you cannot create something new unless you have both polarities.

So, but they need to be in balance.

We...

Culturally, we tend to say, I am very negative or very positive.

And that creates chaos in our life because we are giving more power to one side

but actually

when we when you find the harmony into both of them everything bad or negative that happened in your life it becomes a tool for your positive in your life And we are usually tend to say, I want to forget this has happened or I want to throw this away or I don't want to remind this or I just I'm trying to transcend this reality and I don't want for that happened anymore.

But it's always about escaping the negative and not taking the tools from it.

Yeah, people always try to run away from their traumas, their bad moments or memories, but you're saying to embrace it, face it head-on.

Yeah, because they are the tools.

It's like

if you have a hammer and you want to put a nail in the wall and you

crash your finger with the with the hammer, would you throw the hammer away and never watch it again?

No.

No, you just need to know how to use it.

So that's the thing.

Yeah, I've done that before, actually.

I got so mad at that hammer.

Yeah.

But if you throw it away, then you cannot put natal.

Yeah.

So I've actually never seen you talk about money.

Money.

Yeah.

So what's your relationship with money?

Do you even care about it at all?

I care about it because otherwise I wouldn't be here.

I wouldn't be able to travel.

Yeah.

I, yes, of course,

money is

another way of energy, of exchange of energy.

We are talking, that's an exchange of energy.

We are paying something, we are an exchange of energy.

And the exchange of energy is how much energy it takes for you to go somewhere, do something, change something, build something.

So it's about the energy that you need in order to carry that.

We demonize the money.

because money in the in our last part of the civilization for the last 2,000 years,

3,000 years, has been a way to control others,

to control the ability of others to be free.

So we created all this idea that money is evil, that money is a problem, that money,

but

make this exercise, take away all the money in the world.

And what would happen?

So we will start to fight

by stones.

We will start to fight because of snails.

We will start to fight because we want corn.

So change it by corn.

You will fight for corn.

You will be sad if you don't have the corn.

So it's not about money.

It's about how we establish our relationship with giving and receiving in our lives.

So today is money and tomorrow could be shells.

I don't know.

It used to be shells in the past.

Right.

Gold.

Gold.

But for other cultures, for example, for America, gold was nothing.

Gold was like paper for us today.

Yeah.

Like everyone used gold, but Europe needed gold.

So they came here and said, oh, they have gold.

And I said, oh, you want it?

Here.

Like,

we didn't use it for anything here in Europe, in America.

So, so this

concept of what is money, what is value

is actually time and survival.

Like, how much time do I need to do something?

How much energy do I need to do something?

How much food do I need to keep doing this?

Yeah.

How much safety do I need in order to do this?

So,

wealth, money, it's a way to

actually

allow you to do stuff.

Like, for example,

if I would have to work

in other things in order to pay my food to do do this for free

i wouldn't be doing this because i need to work eight hours a day right then i would i would be tired and so on so uh i cannot dedicate my life to my mission yeah if other people don't give me uh don't give me money for me to keep going yeah so because today

that's how it works

Before it was food, so people would give me food.

Or like I, I,

I have traveled the world without money for a long time.

Just being at home with people, they give me food and everything.

So I've been traveling like that.

But suddenly

I needed to

reach more

and people started to offer me more.

It was not me asking more.

They started to offer me more

because they knew that I needed to do stuff that...

in the other way I wouldn't be able to.

So my relationship with money is money is not the important thing is what is the purpose you need the money for right what is the mission behind it what is the mission behind it what is the need of of that resource because sometimes it's not about having money to do stuff it's about being open to receive the wealth in different ways yep and um

most of the things that i did in my life weren't because of money.

Yeah.

Were because the people that had the money helped me to do it.

Interesting.

I didn't need the money.

Yeah, there's people that they win the lottery, they lose all their money.

There's people that make money unethically and they end up losing it because money is energy, right?

So you're basically saying if you make it in the wrong way, you're going to lose it.

Yeah, you're going to lose it or you're going to have a lot of problems.

Yeah.

So

there there are there are a lot of unethical pe people that have made a lot of money and they created and they have an empire of money.

So

why are they doing good in life with money if they are unethical?

Well,

because

money and ethics is not related.

Money is energy.

If you know how to handle energy,

you will have the money.

Yeah.

So,

and most of the most of the people that are spiritual are not properly handling money because

we don't care about money.

I noticed that a lot of spiritual people don't care.

And because they don't care, then they are complaining about people that has the money.

And

they are not able to do their

good,

their things for humanity.

because they have to work all the time to pay their taxes or their food.

So they are losing energy in a war, in a war that they shouldn't be fighting.

Yeah, it doesn't even matter, right?

Exactly.

Think about it.

Because it's not about having or not having money.

It's about what is the purpose I'm giving to the money.

Yeah, absolutely.

Mateus, I've learned a lot, man.

It's been fun again.

Anything you want to close off with or promote?

I don't know.

Any courses, events you got coming up?

No,

I just would like to say what I told you before to you, that

next year, 2024, for me, it's going to be very important to make a new reconnection of the network.

So

I probably will open gatherings in Egypt for that in every source of the Equinox.

So I would just say for everybody to pay attention to that in case you want to go or in case you want to connect online

to be in the same frequency.

Absolutely.

I'll definitely either.

Thanks so much for coming on again.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Thanks for watching, guys.

As always, and I'll see you next time.