Cam Fordham On Losing Weight, Future of Get Engaged and Living in Nashville | DSH #147

But then you got Kendall Jenner on the other hand who's crushing it.

Right.

You said Kylie or Kendall?

Kendall.

I mean, all of them.

I mean, but they're influencers.

I don't feel like they're actors.

I don't think they are.

That's a good point.

Yeah.

I think they started off vlogging in a sense of reality.

You follow them and are investing in their life because of them.

Right.

And they are.

They are influencers.

You got Happy Dad, too.

You got Happy Dad.

They're like the fun.

Shout out Sam and Johnny.

The fun beer.

They understand.

their influence and tapping into the moments and their network.

And they had the

podcast, just like Logan, they have the podcast to put their product on.

It's just, it all works hand in hand.

Yeah, that pod was a good movie.

A lot of guys aren't celebrities.

They're influencers.

That's what I'm saying.

All right.

welcome back to the digital social hour guys.

I'm your host, Sean Kelly.

Here are my co-host Wayne Lewis.

What up, what up?

And our guest today, Cam Fordham.

Good to see you.

Looking good, man.

Happy to be here.

Vegas.

Yeah.

Vegas, you're from Nashville, right?

So I'm not originally from Nashville.

I'm from Atlanta.

Okay.

Coming out of Atlanta out of high school, got a football scholarship at LSU, went down there, was there for about a year and a half or so, and then transferred and finished up at NC State.

And then went back to Atlanta, started the business, engaged.

Yeah.

And,

you know, three years into the business, ended up moving to L.A.

We expanded our presence out there.

And then during COVID, it's just, you know how L.A.

was.

I mean, you moved to Vegas.

Everyone, not a lot was going on.

We didn't know what the outcome was going to be.

I ended up visiting a buddy that I grew up with in Atlanta that was a country music singer.

So I went to Nashville and, you know, had a great weekend.

I was like, you know, let me come back another weekend, you know, in the in like the next month or so, and see if this is really for real.

So, I came back and it just blew me away.

Just everybody there is just super, you know, nice, accommodating.

It's no state income tax, everything's new, there's no traffic, and I just feel like Nashville in general is you know on the rise and it's very special.

And so, I moved there about two years ago now.

Nice.

And that's where I'm at.

So, that's a long-winded answer, but yeah.

What was it like playing football at LSU?

Because that's like one of the best programs.

LSU was great, man.

So my dad.

What position?

You look like a receiver.

Shoot, I wish I could say that.

So

I've lost a lot of weight since.

So I went in as a tight end.

Oh, went in as a tight end.

Left as a center.

Whoa.

Right?

That's a big transition.

Exactly.

Well, those are two totally different mindsets.

Yes.

A tight end is like...

you know, a bigger, stronger receiver.

A center is like a monster.

That's like the centerpiece.

That is the glue that holds the line together.

If you bust through the center, center's got to be the strongest one, right?

Yes, yeah, they call it the QB of the offensive line because you're doing two things at once.

You're actually

hiking, blocking.

Bro, to go from this position to straight up, oh, oh, you gotta be quick.

Linebacker coming, and you're like telling the other lineman what to do.

You gotta know the snap count as well.

You gotta snap the ball, so it's a lot.

So they had a need, you know.

I had the ability to put on weight, and they would just like start eating i think there's an opportunity here at center and that was that so weight ended up weighing like 295 when i played at the peak and if i would have done it all over again would i played tight end just stuck with it absolutely

it's a little bit more fun and but you know things happen for a reason yeah but it was awesome school grew up like my dad played there yeah so it was childhood dream of mine and you know

played there too exactly so a lot of good stuff so oh came in a year after after I got there.

So,

we were super cool.

And Jarvis, like all those guys.

Jarvis Lane Hall.

Oh, so you were on that team that was lit.

So, Mettenberger,

Jordan Jefferson, like that, those were the two KPs while I was there.

Oh, you was those were lit years.

Yeah, LSU.

Y'all was popping.

Gave Alabama a run for their money.

Y'all was doing y'all thing.

For sure.

You guys went out here?

So, actually, so I got there.

We went to the Cotton Bowl.

We won the Cotton Bowl against Texas A ⁇ M.

And then the year after, I had left right before the season.

So I was there for a year and a half.

They had gone to the National Championship versus Alabama.

And they had lost.

I think the score was like, went in like nine to three?

I think.

It was something.

It was super close.

But if I would have stuck around for like a couple more months,

I would have at least been to the National Championship.

That's good.

So you started getting engaged right after college?

Yeah.

So

I actually, before getting engaged, I started a sports website called campusports.net.

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I was a senior.

Yeah, I was a senior at North Carolina State and I just saw a need for blending

college sports, news and lifestyle with culture and celebrity athlete interviews and the whole nine yards.

So we did I did that for a couple years, got that off the ground.

We ended up selling that to co-ed media out of New York.

And um you know my business partner ben and i knew each other um just through mutual friends in atlanta and you know we had the idea to you know take the connections that we had and turn it into more of a you know business and helping talent and and and figures monetize their brands online so that's how we started originally you're one of the best people i know at networking and connections i mean your network is insane what would you attribute that to like did you have a breakthrough moment and then he just sent you referrals from there Yeah, I mean, I just, I

I'm a people person.

Like, I really like to provide value to people and, you know, understand the importance of relationships.

And,

you know, I had the sports background.

I think I learned, you know, how to really,

you know, get along and gel with, you know, different people and from different backgrounds.

So

actually, our first client that we started working with, well, it was two kind of at the same time, was Waka Flocka and T.I.

Yeah, so Waka is a tremendous guy.

T.I.

as well, you know, they were needing help with some of their social stuff and monetizing their Facebook pages and different things like that.

So we tried to figure a way in with those guys at first because in Atlanta, like rappers, TI, Waka, they're big time.

That's big time.

It's a big time, you know, that that was that was the pinnacle from where we're from and where we know.

So,

yeah, they, so we got in with them, helping them monetize their Facebook.

And then, you know, actually, there was a need.

T.I.

wanted someone to sell his merch and his meet and greets on tour.

Was that his brand called Hustlegang?

It's Hustlegang.

What's the other one?

Aku.

Aku.

So we didn't sell Aku.

We sold Hustle Gang products.

But, like, he needed someone on tour.

We had never done that before, but we just raised our hand.

We're like, we'll do it.

We'll figure it out.

So we ended up figuring it out and went on tour with him and, you know, did that, did the Hustlegang gang tour big yeah back in like 2016 it was big oh huge um

and we did that and just kind of parlayed it from there just kept making connections and you know providing value to people and trying to get in with them and yeah it turned into the whole agency model and then where did you get your corporate clients because i know you guys work with raising canes was that after the celebrities or was it around the same time so yeah we started with the celebrities and

and you know it just kind of came away as you know celebrities wanted brand connections.

And, you know, we started getting in with brands and, you know, seeing their lens and their side of view versus talent.

And we actually saw an opportunity that brands need an agency like ours to help them become culturally relevant and to make their stamp online and

help them curate their voice.

And so brands has been a big part of, you know, our company and growing it and where we're going so yeah yeah that makes sense yeah raising canes is one of their clients yeah i like raising canes the the the owner i like that he's uh he's super active right like he's so involved with the with the growth of a company even though still they are you know whatever what they're uh he evaluated i don't want to say a number because i don't want to be wrong but i mean he's super active and involved for sure.

I mean, even with the post Malone, the pink one, they opened up in Utah.

Post Malone was part of it?

Post Malone has one.

Oh, really?

Utah.

Yeah.

All-pink one.

So all-pink Kane's.

You know, that's not Kane's motto, but he, you know, he altered it just for, you know, Post Malone.

Interesting.

He posted it a little bit.

Okay.

Yeah.

So, no, you're right, though.

Todd is a phenomenal person, first of all.

Great person.

Yeah.

Super involved.

Really cares.

AJ, his CEO, is one of the best operators just just in business in general.

He's fantastic.

And they have a great team.

And I just think with them is they really understand

where marketing is going, connecting culture and the power of social media.

And Todd's a people person.

And

he values relationships.

And I can't say...

Good enough things about just the way they think and operate.

I don't feel like when people say culture, like it's a racial thing.

I kind of just feel like it's more of like a belief thing like this is what we all believe in this is this is what's dope to us 100 you know what i'm saying this helps us come together this helps us come together some people kind of separate culture with race and i'm like no it's more so like

i feel like culture is another way of saying a community correct because you know we're all we all kind of eat dress the same listen to the same music so that's the culture yeah you know what i'm saying so totally agree and he's definitely is in tune for sure he's he's locked in i like him a lot i watch him on instagram i'm like yo this dude is so active You don't see that because who's the owner?

I'm granted the owner of McDonald's dot, right?

But you don't never see him.

Like, you don't never see the CEO.

So you don't see CEOs like partying and being around and being active.

Exactly.

It's like New Age stuff that needs to be done.

Like you're saying,

you brought up a good point.

You don't, in the QSR space, you don't see a CEO or a founder.

That identifies with the brand.

Partying.

Really, you don't.

I can't think of any to be honest.

They're invisible.

They're invisible.

So it's special.

It's a jack-in-the-box.

No idea.

I don't know.

Who owns it?

In and out.

In and out.

Who owns it?

Which is nothing.

Who owns money?

In and out.

But it's nothing against it.

It's just special that they can tie together and it all works.

Yeah, he's doing something that's fresh.

For sure.

Yeah.

What about Theo Vaughn?

How do you get in with him?

Man, Theo.

Funny.

Funny guy.

Theo, we just met.

Yeah, we met through a mutual friend in Nashville, actually one of Kane Brown's managers, Nikki.

She introduced us.

I was really fascinated with what he had going, why he moved to Nashville, and just wanted to meet him because I felt like a lot of our talent could come on his platform.

And I felt like we could do a lot of things with Theo in general.

And we met, and he's a phenomenal guy.

Super, super cool, kind, you know, cares about people.

And we just, like, we just gelled.

And,

you know, we do a lot of fun things with Dio now you know from you know some of his podcast stuff and helping out with brands and you know

helping him you know with with different social opportunities and stuff but he's first of all he's just you know a friend and I want to see him win that's awesome I feel like get engaged provides such a valuable service to content creators because a lot of them don't know how to make money on social media but you guys have cracked that code and you can help people out with that for sure i think that's why you guys are succeeding so much appreciate that man Yeah.

Thanks.

Do you consider your guys a competitor to like CAA and UTA or is it different?

No, not at all.

I mean, I just feel like we're in our own lane.

We look at CAA, like, they're phenomenal to us.

Like, we help their clients make money and

they help bring us opportunities.

Like, we work very synergistically.

Can't say enough good things about all the talent agencies, the CAAs, the UTAs, the WMEs, the Wassermans,

and then on down to the management companies.

I mean, we're just, we don't, we rep the brands or we'll help, you know, people on digital or curate the deals or, you know, bring them investment opportunities or start brands with them.

So we're just really a

value add or a bonus.

Yeah, you can, you can look at, some people look at it at this competition, Sean, but I think more so is that you're still providing an asset.

You're still being an asset, regardless if it's your client or not, you're still fulfilling that need there.

Exactly.

I'll get it done.

I know somebody.

And whether it's at another company or somewhere else, you still get a piece of the pie.

It's just.

Well, the thing about it we tell people from the start is we're not trying to manage your artist we're not trying to take your artist we need you in the equation to make this thing work it's a team effort and we just want to provide value right because they're probably trying to protect their clients and not let other people take them you don't care we we have respect business you know we we don't we're not in that the management world yeah we're just not that's probably why they like working with you guys for sure yeah they're curators yeah yeah yeah as long as you take care of them everybody's taking care of everything's good.

Everything, all the deliverables are there.

We're good to go.

No question.

Keep it rocking.

No question.

I got to ask this because I haven't seen you in three years, but

you're looking good, bro.

You look like you lost like 50 pounds.

I got to know what happened.

50.

I think it's been about like 40, 45.

That's a lot.

How much weighed right now?

So naturally, in high school, I think I weighed like, you know, 215, 220.

I'm about like 206, 207 right now.

I think

I just got to the point where I just, I wanted to take it off.

I wanted, you know, longevity-wise, it's just better to just be leaner and more healthy and active.

And this past year, I was just like, if I'm not going to do it now, I'm 31, like, when am I going to do it?

So I just decided to take it seriously.

Taking a lot of vitamins, supplements, different peptides.

And

keep hearing peptides.

Yeah, keep hearing that too.

That's the way, man.

We got to get on those, bro.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Keep peptides.

You know, went to,

you know, just dove in and took it seriously.

Played, you know, played some golf, a lot of pickleball, going on my walks.

Just mentally, it's helped a lot to me.

How many steps are you doing a day?

I don't even know.

I don't have a tracker.

I checked my nash down.

If it feels good to me, if I'm not at that time.

I'm at 10,000.

I'm not.

5,200.

I want to double it.

That's too low.

Yeah, 5,200 is about, that's half of 10K.

So it's an hour and a half or 10,000 steps.

How are you hitting 10K?

You just walk an hour and a half.

Oh, it's your walking.

An hour and a half.

Yeah, I walk a trail purposely.

So So I purposely hit 10k steps.

Yeah, I gotta start doing that.

In this heat, though, that's like 20,000 stuff.

No, think about it.

Well, yeah, 20,000 stuff, but in the mornings, like the sun is the,

it's not as heavy.

The brightest sun is at 12.

So if you get up at 7, 8 and you walk the trail, it's not as intense as the sun is.

So I still hit my 10, my 10k steps, an hour and a half, bro.

I burn like 678 calories.

And then you hit the sauna after that, right?

And then I'll go to the gym, hit the sauna or I'll do the walk.

Then I go melt.

Or I'll do the walk on my off days, but sauna is mandatory.

I don't do nothing else.

I'm hitting the sauna.

Okay.

I don't even lift a weight.

I'll do sauna and leave.

So great point right there.

That's also what's helped me.

I bought one of those infrared saunas.

And I have to do it.

I keep hearing infrared, though.

I haven't done an infrared sauna yet.

It heats you from the inside out.

It's different.

You don't sweat as bad or it takes you a long time to sweat, but inside you're sweating.

Yeah, Gary Director said the same thing.

I need to get one of those.

Get one for the house.

I have a contact for you.

That's helped a ton.

And it has the red light therapy.

Where do you put it at?

In the backyard?

It's in my garage.

Yeah, I'll put it in the garage.

Yeah, yeah.

Just put it in my garage for now.

I'm building actually a house in Nashville as we speak, and I'm going to have a...

section of the house for like my wellness areas

my yeah my infrared cold tub etc oh you're doing a cold tub i like the gym just because it's social i hate being i feel like if everything's at the crib i'm isolated so the gym gives me that social hour for me to intermix and like you know just mix around and talk and be around people and absorb but if everything is at the crib bro i just feel like

i think you could have both though yeah when if that if that's if that's how you get it done and that's they don't have infrared i get it yeah they don't have infrared or the ice tub or the hyperbolic chamber or all the other

bro yeah i just went to the ufc institute yesterday have you been been there?

Is it nuts?

Dude, insane.

They have all that stuff.

They have cryo.

I want to go.

Yeah.

They have a pool where you can run in it.

Oh, the tread, the tread, the tread pool.

Yeah.

So my buddy Forrest Griffin, he's

Griffin was at my GM training people at like two years ago.

Exactly.

So he's a friend of mine.

We've known each other for a long time.

And he said, whenever you're in Vegas, stop by.

So I'm going to text him out to this.

Oh, yeah.

We've definitely got to go to the chat.

I haven't sprung up.

It looks crazy.

Yeah.

What about rile tea?

What's that about?

So, Real Tea.

Oh, Real Tea, my bud.

No, you're fine.

It's an awesome company.

It's a rocket ship right now.

So, Blowden Ukela, who's the CEO, and Lee Ferstein, who's one of their major backers, investors.

You know, they're awesome.

You know, Lee's track record is

from Skinny Pop, Veggie Straws, Core Water that he's been a part of.

Blowden, you know, worked, was very high up at the drink buy.

Oh, wow.

And he's a data scientist at heart.

He really understands the beverage industry, study of the game, very young.

He's like 28.

Beast.

And, you know, we invested in one of Lee's brands, Owen.

It's a plant-based protein shake, and it's seeing a lot of success.

And I just knew

they knew how to grow a company, you know, from the ground up.

They have all the distribution relationships.

They have, you know, the business side of things really in that area

secured.

So

they came to us actually with an idea because we had always told them we would love to be a part of a brand from the ground up and help curate the whole experience

in conjunction with them.

And they said, hey,

we like to go after tired categories.

Iced tea is a very tired category, if, you know, in the broad spectrum of things.

Why is it a tired category?

Well, what do they mean by that?

I've never heard that talk.

For sure.

Say you walk into a qt or a gas or a 7-eleven you go to the tea

cooler what do you see you see a tea that has 34 grams of sugar

tons of calories yeah

might taste good or might not but there's nothing that has zero sugar zero carbs zero calories all natural ingredients that taste great does it have suc close in it though this this stuff no it's sweetened by monk fruit okay because i'm running into zero sugar, but

learning about suclos is that we start right, it's now it's in there, and our body don't digest it, right?

So I'm like, I can't drink this, even though it's supposedly good for you.

It's still bad for you.

Yeah, the diet sodas have that, right?

Yeah, so it's monk fruit.

Right.

And so, what's the difference between that and actual,

let's say,

cane sugar?

Because I know what the difference between that and fake sugar, but what would be the difference between adding cane sugar?

So it's

still sweet, though.

It still tastes sweet.

Like it tastes, it tastes really good.

You gotta try it.

I should have brought some today, but it tastes sweet.

It's just

better for you.

Wow.

Okay.

It's much better for you.

It just has hella sugar usually.

Are you guys making Arnold Palmer's?

Because, bro, I'm the Arnold Palmer.

I won't speak on that, but it's been

discussion.

Okay.

I don't know.

We'll see.

I don't know.

But

yeah, just there.

it's a wide open space.

And we're excited about it.

I think that the company has a lot of potential where it's going

since it launched.

A lot of retailers are signing up.

Wow.

Whole Foods, Sprouts,

Wagmans, Harris Teeter, Kroger,

nationwide, and more coming

as the weeks go on.

So super exciting.

Morgan Wallen's a partner on it.

I've been looking at his name the whole interview.

Yeah, we got him involved.

He's doing his thing right now and is only getting bigger and better.

And he's a good person.

Nice.

Was Prime an inspiration to get in the drink space, you'd say?

I don't think Prime is an inspiration.

I love what they've done.

I think it's miraculous with Logan and Jeff and bringing KS Science in the mix and nothing but respect.

I think it's a little different with what we're doing.

Still a drink, obviously, but like...

Those guys are out of here.

I mean, what they've done is fast.

They're competing directly with Gatorade right after this moment yeah they're head to head with them yeah and it's cool to see like i don't think people realize the power and the pull that

you know someone like a logan and a ksi had like being influencers they're not traditional movie stars or you know a big corporation

but like they've showed that how powerful social and

and the whole dynamic is.

Direct to consumer marketing.

Guerrilla marketing at its at its finest finest finest that's guerrilla marketing no middleman direct to consumer at its purest form yeah for sure for them to pull off that throw the bottle at us stunt and make it seem like the drink was hated and then slap us in the face with uh eh this was a stunt

i i said what they tapped into all the cultural moments and

everything that Logan's done with the Dutch phenomenon and KSI, you know, getting involved with the soccer team and just the UFC partnership.

It's

not spending no money on marketing, bro.

It's nuts.

They were everywhere when I went to the UFC.

Little to no money on marketing, bro.

Influence, man.

That's the power of engagement.

They're using it.

It's almost like content creators are getting more influential than celebrities now.

Then like day-list actors.

They're creative, bro.

Think about it.

Even with, you know, starting from ground zero, bro, you have to figure out a way to be funny, the way to make people laugh, a way to captivate people, a way to capture.

We're constantly learning algorithms.

So celebrities aren't learning.

They're just being called to restaurants, proper proxy outside, boom.

Paris Hilton eats this vegan burger from Plant World or whatever, right?

Boom.

With us, it's like...

You have to be creative with your approach because you want to get seen.

So your creativity levels are a lot higher because it takes that much that goes into it to get a thousand views or to get 10,000 views.

You know what I'm saying?

So it's just a different mindset, bro.

And yes, absolutely.

It's way more powerful than celebrities because it's more creativity goes into the work.

We're more art, basically.

Yeah, and I will say, like, obviously, you know, musicians and

movie stars or whatever it is, they can move product or they can, they have the influence.

I just think that, you know, in some circumstances,

like you're saying, the guerrilla marketing and the numbers and the amount of effort a lot of these influencers are able to put in, you know, shows broadly and numbers-wise and the whole nine-yards.

So

they have an excuse to really go hard, hard, hard.

Content creators have the science.

Celebrities are more of a arrive here,

do this, this is done.

They have no science behind what they're doing, no reasoning behind it.

But content creators, there's an actual story.

And there's a why behind it, whether it's real or it's fake, it's still captivating.

So they know how to own the the audience.

They know how to control them.

So

my opinion is content creators are a lot more powerful than celebrities.

They do have reach, though.

I'm not taking the celebrity reach away from them, but I'm just saying content creators are just like,

Mr.

Beast, man.

You're killing like Mr.

Beast.

Who is he?

He just showed up.

And he's been here.

Nah, he didn't just show up.

I mean, he's not, not just show up.

I'm not that, but...

He just kind of became this thing.

You know, then you got him.

You have Ninja.

You got all these other guys.

They never played in movies, they never rapped, they're some damn album.

He's got chocolates, bro.

He's all Uber Eats.

Yeah, he got ghost kitchens everywhere.

No, he actually just,

but then you got Kendall Jenner, on the other hand, who's crushing it, right?

You know, you said Kylie or Kendall?

Kendall, I mean, all of them.

I mean, yeah, but Kim, Kylie, they're in, they're influencers.

I don't feel like they're actors.

I don't think they are.

That's a good point.

Yeah.

I think they started off vlogging in a sense of reality show, which is a form of that.

That's where people are.

People follow them them and are invested in their life because of them.

Right.

Like, they

are.

They are influencers.

Yeah, so I don't believe that they're, I don't, wouldn't call them actresses or anything like that.

I think they're influencers at the higher form, the higher form of it.

So, an actor example: George Clooney and Randy with Casimigos.

Casamigos.

They're not on social media.

Oh, they started Casamigos?

Yes.

George Clooney started that with his boy.

And

Mike Meldman, that was their third partner with Discovery Land.

Did he actually sell it?

Yeah, they sold it.

Wow.

sold it i think george clooney i feel like he opened up the door for kevin hart lebron to come out with theirs and everyone else who's starting to get into they were the founders

of yeah well puff puff actually initiated that exactly you're right i feel like casamigos kind of they they just kind of came bro i mean they're under that umbrella bro yeah now you got happy dad too you got happy happy dad is you know i feel like the um they're they're doing great i feel like they're like the fun shout out sam and johnny The fun beer.

It's not even a beer, but yeah.

No, I know you mean.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's fun.

But

they understand

their influence and tapping into the moments and their network.

And

they have the podcast, just like Logan.

They have the podcast to put their product on.

It's just, it all works hand in hand.

Yeah, that pod was a good movie.

A lot of guys aren't celebrities.

They're influencers.

That's what I'm saying.

It's power in content creation, bro.

It's keen.

And you have an excuse to do it.

You got an excuse.

Yeah.

Man, what are you up to next and where can people find you?

Man, all good.

I just think

we're shifting more into

the brand world and incubating brands and investing in different opportunities.

I think

we're at about 90 employees now.

Offices in Atlanta, Nashville, New York, and soon to be L.A.

So

I just, I think the future is bright.

I mean, every day is different with us.

not you know it's exciting.

It's not the status quo.

It's not it's just it's it's growing thankfully.

And

you know, I don't know where we're going to be in a year.

We have goals.

We have plans, but

everything shifts in this in this world.

Social media chat.

You got to adapt.

Absolutely.

That's one thing you've crushed it with.

Adapting.

You just got to adapt.

Yeah.

Because whenever there's new platforms, people hate on it, but you guys have been able to use it to your advantage.

Absolutely.

Threads.

I mean, that popped up two days ago, right?

we don't, we didn't know about that a while ago.

Like, and now people are starting to adjust their strategy to threads, and brands are getting involved.

They want to be ahead of the curve and want to start there to get a jumpstart.

Because if you're not, if you're on there the first day as a brand, you're going to have more eyeballs when people are.

onboarding like you have on more visibility like people say you know you want to get in uh start dealing with these new platforms at the beginning i think with threads it's not about the following it's about people actually seeing your stuff now because instagram controls that totally at this point they control the post on threads right now they don't really control it yeah everybody sees your stuff and they want it to be favorable yeah so to be selling stuff when they're right now it's like prime posting links and visit youtube channels stuff like that is threads i got to dive into it a little bit more but it doesn't show the views on the on the threads yet oh really that's i would assume that's coming well it shows the likes and the reviews it shows the likes in the comments but it doesn't show how many actual views it's.

Impressions, yeah.

But I'm sure it's coming in the next month or two.

It could, it could.

I think they might start showing it impressions, or they could keep.

I'm just curious, like, you know, with your algorithm, you're only seeing a percentage of your following.

Yeah, yeah.

Like, what is that saying?

Is that hitting everybody's timeline?

Is it hitting half?

Is it hitting a quarter?

I don't know.

We'll see.

Yeah.

Where can people find you, man?

Man, just right here.

I'm not leaving.

No, I'm getting store.

Gas station sometimes.

Right.

No, exactly.

I mean, you can follow my Instagram at Cam Fordham.

Email cam at getengaged media.com.

Who might or might not reply?

Who?

I'm kidding.

Might or might not reply.

No.

All right.

Wayne, anything?

Thank you guys for watching.

Thanks for coming through, bro.

Yeah.

Appreciate y'all having comments, bro.

This is awesome.

And congrats.

Thanks, man.

Y'all put together a really good platform.

Thank you.

All right.

Thanks for watching, guys.

Peace.

Peace.