Jared Goetz On Meeting Michael Jordan, Psychedellics & Speaking With Mark Cuban | DSH #138

Mark Cuban called us because he was do you remember he was gonna buy the patent on the hook mark cubin called us too really

I got totally screwed by a supplier in China and my supplier in China I was paying him for orders and he wasn't shipping the orders out he was just giving me fake tracking codes and keeping the money half a million dollar hit in like a week I gotta ask this man how'd you meet Michael Jordan oh you know about that so

dude so golf and uh so we finished golfing and I get a call from my neighbor's wife and she's like yeah MJ's in-laws just said if you want to swing by his house, he had a house at the Bears Club.

Still didn't expect him to be there.

We walk toward the backyard.

I see MJ leaning over his outdoor kitchen, like watching golf.

He came and shook my hand, like, what's up, Mike?

And I was like, Yeah, I know.

Welcome back to the Digital Social Hour.

I'm your host, Sean Kelly.

I'm here with my co-host, Wayne Lewis.

What up, what up?

And our guest today, Jared Goetz.

What's going on, guys?

How's it going, man?

Going amazing.

It is hot as hell here in Vegas.

But you're from Florida.

I live in Texas now.

And it's actually good.

It's actually humid.

It's probably just as hot in Texas.

Texas got humid.

Can't escape it.

We're in Texas.

San Antonio.

Oh, it's San Antonio.

It is humid there.

San Antonio is kind of boring, though, right?

Yeah,

I like a boring life.

Oh, you do?

Yeah.

I just had a newborn baby okay you know i live on a golf course i'm kind of like an old man so san antonio is perfect for me okay so you grew up quick you're already an old man yeah before san antonio wanted to be an old man

i was in boca yeah living in a country club in boca and i was in a men's golf league oh shit and i was like by far the youngest guy i was playing with like 50 60 70 year olds so i'm really an old man so a golf league so you're like actually competing like well it was like a just a fun men's league i'm not i'm like a 10 handicap i'm not like competing okay I've never played, so I don't even know what that means, but it's just my favorite thing to do.

It's something that you can do for the rest of your life.

Yeah.

You could always get better at it.

You could always travel around the world for it.

You meet cool people.

And it's super fun once you get it in.

Yeah, I heard the networking golf is.

Yeah, for sure.

I was out of this world.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And once you hit your first good shot, it's so addicting.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Anyone who knows golf can relate.

Yeah.

So at top golf, are you just hitting it over the entire net?

I can get it over the net from the if I'm on the third floor.

Wow.

Yeah.

That's impressive, bro.

Yeah, working out, you know.

Top golf here in Vegas?

Yeah.

They're all the same.

You can get it all over the net yeah i've done it before yeah they're all the same same i didn't know people was even hitting it over the net bro yeah i've seen it for real it's nasty where people get cars get hit over there probably

so what did you do before retire semi-retiring i guess

so uh my first business i used to throw concerts for a living um when i was in college uh actually before college i used to rent home i was always a hustler i would always i would rent homes in the hamptons for like a month at a time and then each weekend i would re-rent them out to prom parties So we'd rent the home for like 20 grand for the month.

And it was kind of sketchy.

You know, I was like, I was 17, 18, calling these homeowners, like, yeah, we need it for our family for the summer.

And then we would just rent it out to parties.

Yeah.

But it led me to a good opportunity because we rented the home to a prom party that couldn't get a house.

And the girl that was kind of like leading it, her brother was the biggest concert promoter kind of, you know, in the East Coast.

So he was doing like Lupe Fiasco, Steve Aoki.

And long story short, he's like, hey, you helped out my sister.

We're doing a Steve Aoki and a Lupe Fiasco tour coming through your college.

I went to Albany.

He's like, you guys can be 50-50 partners on it if you can come up with the money.

And yeah, so that was my first career.

We threw Steve Aoki show.

First night, we made 50 grand.

Then the second night we threw Lupe Fiasco, we lost 50 grand.

So we broke even, but it was really cool because I was like, you know, I grew up single mom, only child.

My mom was always working like two or three jobs.

So like making 50 grand in a night was like, you know, I knew people could do it, but in my reality, it was just totally out of control.

So I got into the concert promoting business, and that's led me down a few other journeys.

You know, I was with Yit Yak, you know, Yit Yak with the app.

They reached out to me to sponsor my shows.

So I created my own shows, the world's largest foam party.

It's called Electric Flurry.

You can still look it up on YouTube.

We've got like these giant foam cannons and they would shoot foam 200 feet in the air.

Oh, nice.

All that stuff.

But yeah, Yit Gak reached out to me to sponsor my shows.

And then I was like, you guys should promote your app like this or that.

And they were like, can you come on and do it for us?

So then I got got involved with Yik Gak.

And there's been a few other things in my career.

Nice.

So you were a party guy.

A party.

I was.

A party guy, in a way.

I was.

Kind of.

Kind of, yeah.

That's dope.

Yeah.

Yikyak went out of business, though, right?

Yeah, so yikyak, when I came on board, we had 100,000 monthly active users.

We got up to 10 million in four months.

So it grew super viral.

And while I was at Yik Yak, a friend of mine went to China and he discovered a hoverboard before anyone had ever seen hoverboards.

And I was known as a good marketer.

You know, I was just like, He's like, Jared, we gotta, you gotta tell me what do we do with this product?

And I was like, I don't, I don't know, it's like, send me one.

So, he sent me one in the mail.

I started riding it around everywhere, and everyone's like, What the what the hell is that thing?

You know, I was in the airports, everyone's neck is breaking looking at the item, and I'm like, I gotta start selling these, so I created my first Shopify store.

What was the name of your company?

Glider, G-L-I-D.

Mine was uh, Skywalkers.

Oh, you did that too?

Yeah, no way, that was my company, bro.

So, we were huge.

Yeah, we were huge.

Yo, that's funny.

Dan Fletchman said the same thing.

He looked at me.

He was like, yo, you guys were

you crushed with the hoverboards.

Bro, dude.

Dan did it too, right?

Dan was our competitor, bro.

Oh, okay.

Saw three.

Which one do we have?

You Wills.

Okay.

That was Dan Fletchman.

Okay.

We were with like all the, so I got linked up with like Nash Greer and Haze Greer and all these like younger influencers.

Yeah, yeah.

I had like tens of millions of followers.

So we were in that like younger influencer world.

And it got to a point where Mark Cuban called us because he was, do you remember he was going to buy the patent on the hoverboard?

Mark Cuban called us too

and they're like Mark Cuban doesn't do calls with anyone.

I'm like no

he hit us up too.

Our first we first discovered the hoverboard at CES.

Okay.

That was because obviously we're in Vegas and that's when our eyes like yo, we got something.

Yeah.

Dude, so I yeah, everyone's looking at this thing.

So I didn't know how to sell online.

Yeah.

So I just started printing out business cards.

And every time someone asked me about it, I just give them a card.

Next thing you know I'm selling like two or three hoverboards a week making a couple thousand dollars so I left my job sold my shares in yik yak I was the only employee out of 80 of us to actually sell the shares wow you were smart I was lucky I got everyone else got nothing so yeah he was smarter

yeah and then I ended up going to China to the canton fair yeah oh you went to canton yeah can't canton fair is the top it is so when it comes to tech I've heard about it

wait but you don't speak Mandarin so what was that like

No, but there's some people actually understand you, believe it or not.

Yeah, speak English.

Yeah, when you're like

a sore thumb there,

easily.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, and I went to some more rural areas in China, too, and it's really funny because, like, everyone's staring at you.

I just told everyone I'm a professional baseball player, so I was taking pictures with everyone.

That's funny.

And yeah, I discovered the next product out in the Canton fair.

You got to see those inflatable loungers.

You wave through the air and they fill up.

They start in like a little bag.

They look like a little banana.

They're very popular.

I haven't seen those.

I haven't seen those.

Inflatable lounger.

In the pool, you're saying?

No, it's like

camping with it, right?

And you just wave it through the air and it fills up.

Most people listening probably have seen them.

They were very viral.

And yeah, I started importing those.

That was my next product.

And then,

you know, I was selling a retail.

I was selling to major retailers.

We were at trade shows on Amazon, Shopify across the board.

And then I discovered drop shipping.

I was actually at a trade show in Dallas.

We were at Outdoor Retailer.

And we were talking talking to people for three days straight.

You know, just, I was tired.

It was, I had a flight the next morning at 7 a.m.

and it was midnight and I was about to go to bed and I got an email.

This was back in like 2015 and the email was from a marketer.

It said like how to sell products without ever seeing or touching them.

And I was like, man, I should really go to sleep.

Let me just open this real quick.

And I watched a webinar and I learned that you can go find suppliers on AliExpress and put your put the products in your Shopify store, run ads to it.

And I was so excited because I was good at marketing.

I got to the airport next morning at like 4 a.m.

and just built a store and launched it.

And that store grew from zero to 2 million in 60 days.

Wow.

That was my entry into dropshipping.

60 days?

Zero to 2 million in 60 days.

Jeez.

Just running Facebook ads?

Yeah, just running Facebook ads.

So

I was living in Los Angeles at the time.

And I was moving back to Florida because I was doing all right with the inflatable loungers and stuff.

But it was like...

You know, my now wife, then girlfriend, she was working.

We were splitting rent.

It was like, let's just go to Florida, live a little bit easier and a friend of mine a mentor Brett Lockett he was an ex-NFL player he invited me to go to a Tony Robbins event with him and I was like I don't know about that but sure I'll go and I learned a lot about personal development and energy and we did these like we did this one visualization exercise where you imagine yourself as someone else who like really loves and cares about you and like you kind of like remove yourself from the equation and you're like walking up to your own future life and you're admiring the house and the cars and all this stuff.

And long story short, you walk upstairs and you look in the mirror, and it's you the whole time.

And it's like, it was like I had this crazy moment.

And the day after the event, I had to drive to Florida.

So I had a five-day drive.

And I get on the drive, and I'm, you know, music playing.

I hired someone to do the customer support and the ads.

And all these ideas just started coming to me, like, just seemingly out of nowhere.

And I would just make a call, hey, let's try doubling this ad set, or let's just try this or that.

And the store scaled from like $1,000 a day to $50,000 a day in five days.

Wow.

And it's just like, that's when dropshipping started changing my life.

Wow.

Yeah, we never got into the

drop shipping.

Merchants has always been like a thing to me.

I've always, they've, you know, I try to stay in their good graces because they hate drop shippers.

Yeah, it's challenging for sure.

There's lots of challenges that come with it, but there's, you know, there's pros and cons to it.

It's like the amount of overhead you need.

It's very, very

sitting on stock.

You can always test additional products.

If you have a brand, you can try 50 other products in your niche.

limitless limitless uh access to what they have access to instantly without even paying and then you don't have to pay for inventory or anything like that nor you have to pay for a warehouse yeah you can mainly just focus is focus on the utility of the product and the marketing yeah exactly you run ads 50 products whatever as the lowest cost per acquisition you scale and yeah that was that business model definitely changed my life until i got i got totally screwed by a supplier in china the store was you know continuing to do 50 60 whatever K a day.

And I was traveling.

I was in Thailand just like enjoying life.

It was the first time I really had like good money.

And one of my support agents was like, hey, Jared, we found 100 tracking numbers that aren't working.

And I'm like, yeah, we're doing 2,000 orders a day.

Like, figure it out.

Let me know.

Next day, Jared, we found about 200 tracking numbers that aren't working.

Yeah, whatever.

Figure it out.

And then I had to fly back from Thailand to the US.

So I had a 24-hour travel day.

When I got back, they found like a thousand tracking numbers that weren't working.

And then we spent like a week like trying to figure out what was going on and my supplier in China I was paying him for orders and he wasn't shipping the orders out he was just giving me fake tracking codes and keeping the money and I found 7,000 tracking numbers from customers that we sent to them so it was like half a million dollar hit in like a week so how did the

it was horrible it was horrible you lost the merchant oh i mean

there was so many things that went wrong from it but but then it but it inspired me to build zendrop so like you know, even though it was a really low point, and I did recover from it, I kept drop shipping, I figured it out, but it was like really stressful for a few years.

So, what is Zendrop?

Zendrop's a marketplace for drop shippers.

So, basically, we have over a million products on our catalog.

We have two facilities in China, we have about 50 suppliers in the U.S., and anyone that wants to sell online, they go on Zendrop.

You can upload whatever image you want, and we'll print it out and put it in all your packages for you.

So, it's got branding in it when it gets to your customer.

We got education,

you know, trending product section, so you see what's selling.

And that's cool.

We've had they just have to do their own marketing themselves and stuff, right?

Yeah, exactly.

We're just like a reliable supplier, we could typically beat prices, yeah, no fake tracking numbers, right?

Yeah, so let me ask a question: what, what about is it personalized?

Can they use their own domain for their stuff?

Oh, yeah, they build their own Shopify store.

We're an app, we have over a million Shopify merchants that have signed up and connected their store to.

So,

can you still use

what is is that?

Stripe.

Yeah.

Stripe will still take it?

Yeah, so we're basically when you have a Shopify store, you go on Zendrop, you pick what you want to sell, you import it to your store, you sell it, you collect the money and everything.

But when you make the sale, we charge you the wholesale price and we ship it out to your customer.

Oh, okay, okay.

So it's way more efficient.

Yeah, it's extremely efficient.

It's reliable.

We can scale.

We can build brands.

What's the shipping times?

Our fastest shipping time is four to nine days from China to the U.S.

That's the fast.

That's fast.

From China, that's fast.

From China, yeah.

And we're always, like, we work with over 100 shipping lines.

We got about 480 people in China that are walking and shipping things.

And we ship around the world.

So, you know, a brand would typically import their product to the U.S., put it in a warehouse.

They'd have to buy 60 days worth of inventory.

And then if somebody internationally orders the product, the shipping cost is super expensive.

It's like $34, $40.

Yeah, for us, you can actually build, like, we do something called drop branding for our big clients where you can customize your stuff.

You can buy seven days worth of inventory, keep it in our warehouse in China.

Every time you make a sale, we replenish it from the factory so you never run out of inventory.

We can ship it all around the world.

And

shipping is super cheap, and it's actually fast to a lot of other countries.

Do you guys show the RI on items?

So people could sell the product for whatever they want, but typically people mark it up like three to four times.

Nice.

No, but do they actually know what

like

so different products are trending at different times, right?

It's all about trends, you know?

Yeah.

So with you guys,

is that what your products are based on?

What's currently trailing

and what's selling in the market?

We pretty much have everything you can imagine on the platform.

And if we don't have the product, we source it within 24 hours.

You can put an AliExpress link and we'll have it on there.

Wow.

But we do have a trending product section, which is always being updated based on all the, you know, we have millions of data points, our stories.

But we don't share our biggest clients' winning products in that section.

So it's like, there's a balance of integrity and wanting to help other people.

So you have an AI picking the trending products or is it?

Yeah,

we have a process for it you know there's a lot of data to sort through and yeah, we try to do it efficiently.

And do you offer a print-on-demand too?

Yeah, recently we just had a print-on-demand platform.

Yeah, we have um we're adding to the catalog right now, direct to garment, yeah, okay.

That's sick.

We got a partner, actually, an investor of ours.

We raised a small friends and family round a few years ago, and one of our investors has a facility in Houston where he's got like

seven or eight million dollars worth of printing equipment, and we integrate it with his back end so we can people can do print-on-demand through us now, too.

Nice.

That's sick.

I got to ask this man.

How'd you meet Michael Jordan?

Oh, you know about that.

Dude, so golf.

This is why I love golf.

So I was living in Boca with all the older people, and my neighbor was

about 70 years old.

Good friend of mine, though.

We became really close.

And I just started golfing, and he invited me to go play at the Bears Club, which is a very exclusive course in Jupiter, Florida.

And of course, I went, I played.

He was a criminal attorney, so he he represented something, MJ's mother-in-law.

I can't get all the details, but he knew them through that originally.

They became friends.

His wife is an artist, and she painted a picture of MJ's deceased father, and it really touched him.

So they became really close friends.

Nice.

And so we finished golfing, and I get a call from my neighbor's wife, and she's like, yeah, MJ's in-laws just said, if you want to swing by his house, he had a house in Bears Club.

You can go over there and check it out.

So in my head, I'm like, yeah, we're going to go look at MJ's house.

We pull up, two guys come out, like, gentlemen, follow us.

I'm walking into Michael Jordan's house.

Still didn't expect him to be there.

We walk toward the backyard.

I see MJ leaning over his outdoor kitchen, like watching golf.

We walk outside, you know, I meet MJ.

It's him, Ahmad Rashad,

his in-laws, and his two daughters, me and my neighbor.

And he's like, yo, I got this new tequila line coming out.

Now it's out, but before it was like in plastic bottles.

You want to try these different tequilas?

So I'm like drinking tequila.

He opens a big humidor.

We're smoking Cuban cigars.

And then my neighbor's like, yo, Mike, why don't we take Jared to your trophy room?

So I'm like walking behind Michael Jordan through his house.

We walk into the trophy room.

I look up.

This floor of the Chicago Bulls stadium is like on the ceiling.

And I'm just like standing in there like, how the hell did I end up here today?

I had no idea.

And we hung out for like three hours.

He stayed for dinner.

And we just didn't want to intrude too.

You must have made a good impression for him to have invited you to dinner.

We were just regular guys.

we were just chilling like talking just like hanging out you aren't fanboying that's probably why he liked you guys yeah yeah mj it was kind of hard not to so wait so what did you do was you like what's up michael jordan no he came he's like he just came and shook my hand like what's up mike and i was like yeah i know

he like had these broken you know his fingers were all like bent and yeah huge hands and i was like you know i'm i'm with like one of the most famous people in the whole world like billionaire like amazing and i was like i just gotta enjoy this day yeah you know and and just crazy yeah everyone's like you get a picture I'm like I didn't know I wouldn't have asked

because that automatically puts you well when you're at his house the pictures doesn't that's not enough like pictures of that when you get invited to the crib you like the homie so you gotta just treat him like that so I got invited to join he opened a new golf course and I got invited to join his course

But it was like right when I was moving to Texas and I didn't do it.

Ah you turned down MJ's invite, bro.

But maybe Will in the future we are considering going back to Florida.

Nice.

Yeah.

So after you made your millions, you sort of had a weird moment in your life where you didn't feel fulfilled, right?

You bought everything you wanted to.

Walk me through where you were at then.

Yeah, so oh, I didn't finish the last part of the story.

So, you know,

we did that visualization exercise.

We were admiring the house, the cars, whatever.

60 days later, I owned the car that was in my visualization, and it was a great Lamborghini.

Which one?

It was my first Lamborghini Gallardo.

I've owned a car since then.

But it was crazy because I physically manifested this car into the real world.

Wow.

How did you do that?

So we did this exercise and we were basically visualizing our future life, but it was through the lens of someone who loves and cares about you.

So I was imagining myself as my aunt walking up to my future life and looking at the car.

I've never heard of that one before.

Interesting.

It was something they do at these Tony Robbins events.

And it was like...

It was really cool because I had a vision and I put really strong emotion behind it.

And then literally 60 days later, I had this car and it all happened in a way.

So I'll get to your point.

It all happened in a way that was totally, you know, I could never have expected these series of events to happen this way.

You know, most people, they try to create in a linear fashion.

They say, you know, first I need to do this, and then this can happen, and then I can go do that, and then this person will be here, and then I can do this, and that.

And we, as you guys know, we live in a universe of unlimited possibilities.

So things never happen the way you expect them to.

But most people attach themselves to the outcome.

And when things don't happen the way they want them to, they get stressed, they get worried they get anxiety and I'm a firm believer in the way you feel manifest the world outside so like you know if you could feel good and let go of the outcome things will happen so I learned that through that experience when I when that car came into my life and you know I made the money I bought the car I was traveling and

when I was in Thailand traveling, I was actually like doing a tour of like Buddhist temples and I was on like a tour boat with like a few other people and there was this French couple and this you know, I was I was talking to them and we were hanging out and when we were leaving the wife was like I hope you find what you're looking for and I was like

what the hell do you mean by that?

Like, what am I looking for?

I was like, what am I looking?

Like and it just started like, you know, why am I doing all this traveling?

Why am I, you know, having this these exquisite experiences?

Am I like internally joyful?

Am I like, I still have stresses.

I still don't feel amazing.

Like, there's got to be more.

So I started going down the rabbit hole of meditation.

I've done some, you know, I've done three plant medicine journeys now.

And, you know, I just had a kid seven weeks ago.

And, um, you know, just learned that life is not just about attaining material possessions.

You know, it's nice to, obviously.

Yeah.

But most people don't get a chance to learn that lesson.

Most people are like, yeah, once I get those material possessions, maybe I'll learn that lesson, but they don't get like 95% of people never get there.

Right.

So after I learned that, I started going, you know, I've been to Joe Dispenza meditation retreats.

And, you know, I've spent thousands of hours meditating, going on long walks and you know being extremely disciplined and building confidence and i'm learning that you know you have to substitute short-term pleasure for long-term joy you've got to make those decisions that aren't always easy to make but they make you feel good about yourself you're you know you you you have that internal conflict should i work out or should i not you know most people have don't have much power right they have their true self and they have their mind right most people's minds have more power over them than their true self and their being and you know when you win those battles you're or when you lose those battles you're giving power to your mind it gets harder and harder to win them and then there's your your subconscious which is judging everything you do so when you're losing these battles your subconscious is like hey we can't even do these things like what makes us think we can go do these big business ventures or

and you don't feel good right but when you have discipline and you win those battles every time

then you start to root for yourself you start to have this energy that just feels good and you feel okay right and you know i've just been really deep on that path for the last maybe three three or four years.

Wow.

And it's been really fruitful.

That's insane.

So what have you learned about the universe through meditation?

Have you achieved astral projection yet?

I've had a few pretty interesting experiences for sure.

Yeah.

I mean, the thing is, if you're going into a meditation and you're looking to have a mystical experience, you're not going to get it.

Right.

The whole thing about meditation and even just life in general, it's more about letting go of things than it is trying to get things.

So when you can let go of things and when you can have an empty mind and you can have a pure vessel, your energy flows flows in ways that give you experiences.

But if you're looking for that experience, you're actually blocking your energy from flowing because you're attaching yourself to the outcome of, I need this experience, I need this experience.

And what you get from that is more of needing the experience, not getting the experience.

So, most meditations, you don't get a mystical experience.

I've had a few that have been insane.

Plant medicine, though, has been something that's totally unlocked at different levels for me.

Really?

When you say plant medicine, what are we talking?

So, I go to a place.

So,

I do you guys know Ben Greenfield no I haven't heard of him he's got a big podcast

anyway I booked a consultation call with him because he has a big podcast I was starting a podcast I want to pick his brain the call is in like a month I was listening to an episode and somebody asked him a question they're like what's the most profound thing you've ever done and he's like well aside from this one thing I can't talk about here blah blah blah blah blah so I'm like I get on the call with him.

I'm like, yo, what was that thing that you couldn't talk about in the podcast?

And he's like, there's this plant medicine that essentially makes your brain like 20,000 times more lucid lucid than it usually is.

And you have a voice recorder strapped to your chest and you're laying down and you just speak the truth for six hours.

And you transcribe it all and you have total clarity on your life.

And they call it clerogenics, but you can't find it online.

It's like a very

truth unknownly.

So the way to describe it is like you're lying there and your mind and your ego is kind of like offline and you feel like you get electrocuted with like a trillion volts of love.

So you're just like the best version of yourself in this moment.

And anything

they call it clarogenics, but you're not going to be able to find it online.

It's like

you have to make an introduction.

It's like 40 grand to go do it.

It's like,

you know, a lot of CEOs, like leaders, major billionaires, people like that have been there.

I've met some really cool people there.

So, oh, you actually did it, dude.

I've done it three times.

I do it once per quarter now.

Wow.

Yeah.

And it.

John said, wow.

No, I want to do it.

Like, this is interesting.

Dude, it is.

It made me realize, like,

it's 40K every time.

It's 40k for a four-session package.

Oh, okay.

It's worth it, though.

I mean, oh, it's so my first time doing it.

I always had like this conflict.

Like, I knew I wanted to have kids eventually, right?

Eventually, I want to do this.

Eventually, I want to do this.

But I always had this conflict.

And, like, when I was in the medicine, I'm like, have kids now?

Like, what are you waiting for?

Like, you know, you know what life's all about.

And I just had this realization and got right to work.

And like, it just gives you total clarity on things.

It's not like you're on the limitless pill and you're like, oh, I need to do all these crazy things.

It actually reinforces the lessons that are deep inside of you, but at a level that you've never experienced before.

So like you realize like life is all about love.

But it's like, it's not just like, oh, yeah, life's all about love.

You know, you feel it in your core and it's like a lesson that you can't explain.

Then you're going through your recording and you're transcribing it.

So you're typing it all out, like 20 pages or so.

And you work with a coach over the course of the next few months until your next session.

And you pull out all the nuggets about life that you kind of spoke into the truth.

Wow.

Yeah, and it's been...

I mean, it's just.

How long is each session?

Six hours.

Six hours.

But it feels like 10 minutes.

But you're not tripping, though, right?

It's not a psychedelic.

You're totally lucid.

Like, you are...

You're literally like,

you feel one with God.

Wow.

I was never a religious person.

I'm Jewish technically, but I never grew up with religion.

I didn't really know the concept of God.

I always thought, yeah, like some figure in the sky, whatever.

When you're in the medicine, you're literally one with God.

You are, are,

you're just, you understand it.

And the thing is, when you talk about these things, language is, is, language was created to separate, to, to connect people that are separated.

So, inherently, language separates people.

So, there's only so much you can communicate through words.

Experience is thousands of times more potent than words.

So, I can sit here and describe it to you for hours, and you might get a little bit of it.

But when you, like the first time I went, this guy was like, you'll know, like, when you know, you'll know.

and i the next day i saw him i was like i know

yeah that's been really cool for me wow that's nuts would you would you try that i would i'm just scared no i'm i'm let me just take away the scare i'm not scared it's just it's an experience i i tried micro dose well shrooms for the first time a couple months ago and i was like yo this is sick he sees it nice

but I keep hearing like different medicines that are out there and they just bring more and more and more and as you continuously meet with people or on certain levels, like it's a little bit more where they're at.

Like, no, I try this.

This is a little bit more than that.

You know what I'm saying?

I would say this is not more than like shrooms, for example.

This is not more intense.

No, it's a very easy experience.

So, the second time I went to do it.

Okay, so wait, wait, wait.

Before you started that, what was the other guest he was speaking about?

Something similar, right?

But his was you go to the spot.

Yeah, what was that?

It wasn't I said it was more powerful than that, right?

Yeah, I forget what it was.

I know what you're talking about.

You relived all your memories.

Okay.

It was something way different from this.

I think I know, which I forget the name of.

Same real super discreet.

Like, you gotta, you know.

You gotta know someone.

Yeah, you gotta know someone.

Yeah.

Anyway, the second time I went to do it, I had some anxiety because I couldn't remember what the first one was like.

I remember it was amazing, but like I was getting up to it and I'm like, and I don't like just like letting control, like letting go of control.

So I was like, super anxious and super anxious.

I'm like, you know, I'm scared to do it.

I'm going to do it, but I'm scared to do it.

And then right when it started, I literally was like, okay, I'm never going to be scared to do this again because it's the most beautiful experience I've ever had.

Wow.

So, like, so is there someone in there with you?

Or just there's two people in there with you.

And you're asking you questions, or you know,

you're just firing.

You go in with intention.

Like, you could go in with intentions, right?

If there's certain parts of your life you want to figure out, you can, like, you know, you'll remember.

You're not, like, in out, like, you are in outer space, but you can remember things kind of.

But you, you're, you're lying down and you have an eye mask on, and you have music on, and you have a voice recorder on, on.

And you're just speaking.

You're just like, you feel so good that you never want it to end.

Wow.

It's crazy.

And you're laying there for six hours.

Six hours, yeah.

But it feels like 10 minutes.

Yeah, well, the first time I was done, I literally felt like I was reborn into the world.

Like a fresh start.

Like, I just shed all my traumas from the past.

Like, I healed myself.

I literally felt like I was a fresh...

newly born person into the world.

There's doctors on staff.

There's, you know, there's two people that are there with you the whole time.

If you need water, like three, four hours in, they'll, you know, they'll bring you water.

What changed about you after the first time?

What would you say?

Like, was it the outlook, the energy?

Yeah, the main.

I always knew that life is more about, or it's less about what you need to do and more about who you need to be.

But after the first experience, like, I just really realized that life is all about the present moment, feeling love, understanding that how you feel manifests the world around you.

And at a really deep level, I understood this.

So, you know, I've started implementing habits since then where I try to get back to that feeling.

Right.

right and i i do this thing called the perfect walk i'm actually writing about it right now i'm writing a book about it i have like a 30-page pdf that i've been sharing with friends if you guys are interested i'll share it with you but it's uh it's like a 30 to 45 minute walk i do in the mornings and i use the same music from the plant medicine because it like kind of brings me back and the first five to ten minutes you're just opening your heart you know you're focused right here you're you know thinking about something you love and you're just kind of it's first thing in the morning right before you think about all your problems before you get into the same routine focus on your heart.

Second part is you feel your power, your strength.

You know, you feel like you could do anything.

You know, the music gets more intense.

The third part is a moment of just being totally present, letting go, noticing the things around you.

Any thoughts that come up, you just let them go.

The fourth part is you're walking, you're feeling connected to God or the universe or source or whatever it is you believe in.

And then the last part is a celebration where you're like, I just did this for myself.

I'm going to crush it, right?

And you feel, like, I get goosebumps when I do it.

Like, I know that my energies are being activated.

Wow.

And like that, that walk sets me for the day and it reminds me like this is what life is about and then at that point i know i did the work for the day so i let go i'm like okay however things happen they're gonna happen and i've done the work that i need to do to manifest the life of what that i deserve that i you know i'm so this is at the end of the day or the beginning this is beginning of the day okay but then throughout the day you know oftentimes we feel anxious yeah and we don't really know why because we have so many things going on in life so many distractions so many so much stimuli that oftentimes we don't know right what's causing us to feel this like little maybe it's not crippling anxiety but it's a little ambient anxiety in the background i feel whatever yeah so i use that as an opportunity to just bring my awareness back to the moment realize like right now everything's perfect right and when i sit in that space for a few minutes like typically the thing that was causing me anxiety like bubbles up it like it like dislodges and it's like oh I just need to like email that guy or something like thumbs.

It literally just take care of it.

Yeah, but if you're in the cycle the whole day and you're you're just going and going and going and going and going, there's more things that build on it and build on it.

And most people never let that stuff go.

And that eventually will create diseases.

Your confidence will get low.

Your energy is low.

So really, since the plant medicine, I've realized this stuff very deeply and implemented these practices in my life to be able to live this way regularly.

Nice.

You recently took a health test to determine your biological age, right?

Yeah.

And you got 21?

19.

19.

Yeah.

But you're actually 34, right?

32.

32 33 and like so how are you able to take 11 years off your life that's a great question um so i do a lot of plant

go get the plant

i you know i do a lot of stuff like i have a sauna and a cold plunge at my house i do that every day i have a biocharger have you guys ever seen that before what's biocharging oh biocharger is really cool it uh it looks like a tesla coil and it's got like you sit next to it and if you hold a light bulb in your hand, the light bulb lights up.

So it's sending electricity through your body and it uses different frequencies.

So for example, have you ever seen an opera singer like sing in a glass and shatter the glass?

Yeah, yeah.

Because the glass has a certain resonance and that frequency destroys the glass.

So this machine has like 1,100 different settings.

If you have a virus or you're sick or you want to change your brain wave patterns, whatever it is, it sends electricity into you in different frequencies.

And there's like a bunch of things you can do with it.

Bro, there's always something.

What is the fuck?

It's called a biocharger.

Dude, I would get that.

How much were those?

It's like 15 grand.

It's worth it.

It's a biocharger yeah okay yeah so you know I do that regularly I'm doing peptides now for the last maybe six months or so I see a longevity doctor yeah live health and we do blood work every every quarter yeah a lot of blood work

you know they do I have a supplement

like Google sheet that I just share with you yeah you sent me that yeah

if anyone wants it they just

sent Comment sups on that photo and it'll just auto send it to you.

So yeah, I do all that.

So I don't know what, which thing gets the most output for the least amount of work.

Yeah.

So, like, maybe it's the biocharger, maybe it's the sauna cold plunge, maybe it's the plant medicine, but maybe it's this being less stressed.

Yeah, you know, I eat really healthy too for the most part.

I'm like always doing 75 hard.

Yeah, because if I'm not doing it, I'm like always losing the battles, and I feel like I'm not, so I was just kind of always doing it.

You're not as extreme as Brian Johnson, but your results are as good as his.

I'm not as rich as Brian Johnson, right?

I'm not as rich as Brian as well.

I mean, bro, he's 19 years old technically.

Yeah, he did a test on his age.

That's crazy.

Yeah, they do an epigenetic test where they test the length of your telomeres, which has to do with your mitochondria.

And yeah, it tells you how old your body.

If they were like, if they gave you the option, like, since biologically, you're 19, do you want to be 19?

What would you say?

Yeah.

You could tell people he's 19 technically.

He is technically.

Yeah.

Man, what's next for you?

Well,

you know, I am getting more and more passionate about these kind of conversations.

Doing a bunch of podcasts.

It's crazy because he came over here for drop shipping, and we literally

touched barely on that.

We're talking about more of a mental aspect, which is, I feel like that's needed more.

When people get this stuff,

they make money in business.

Honestly, what's next for me is I want to figure out how to help be a guiding light for that generation after, like the younger, you know, 18 to 20-something-year-olds that are addicted to TikTok.

And they're like, you know, they're consistently distracted.

They're ruining their brains by feeding themselves dopamine through all these different places.

And they don't know anything about being centered.

They don't know anything about, you know, building their energy.

They don't know anything about this stuff.

Because most people that talk about what we're talking about, they're not very relatable people.

They're kind of like woo-woo out there people that you're like, I don't know about that guy.

But I want to be a relatable person and show, you know, the reason that I've been able to build Zendrop, for example, and the reason why I've been able to achieve financial success is not because I'm smart.

It's not because I'm the hardest worker.

It's because I spend a lot of time working on myself, a lot of time reflecting, a lot of time planning.

You know, not so much time working, actually.

Wow.

You know, and it's more planning and strategizing and being in solitude on these walks and these meditations.

And that transmutes into creating the life of how you feel.

And this is what I want to be talking about more often.

That's really cool because a lot of people just grind and you need some time to just think.

I used to do that.

Why do they just grind?

But I think he's getting into like the the science aspect of it when you're dealing with because health is wealth and yeah you know you can make a million dollars today but like you want to keep making that and staying young and youthful and you know efficient and i feel like you're you're more so obviously you made the money but now i'm just like okay cool i need to yeah a certain way from a health standpoint too from a yeah from a health standpoint for sure and if you want to go like one layer deeper you know our feelings so how we feel emotionally is just a vibration our thoughts are just vibrations and you bring the thoughts into you that match how you feel so if you feel stressed anxious you feel lack you feel like you can't get there yeah you're gonna you're gonna get the thoughts that are gonna bring you that but if you can feel abundance you feel like you already have it you feel strong you feel confident you're gonna get the thoughts that are gonna lead you there so it's like stop looking out there for what you need to do look in here for you who you need to be right and then the things you need to do will naturally guide you there in a way that you couldn't have expected.

And you let go of the outcome and things will happen.

You'll get to a place that's beyond what you could have expected in a way that you couldn't have expected.

Absolutely.

Love that.

Where can people find you?

Instagram,

Jared Getz.

You can check out Zendrop.

And yeah,

love it.

All right, guys.

Thanks for watching.

See you next time.

Peace.