Dr Chris Motley On Curing Gut Issues, Benefits of Eastern Medicine & Curing Lyme Disease | DSH #136

Physically seen brain surgeries in China and in Japan where they would use acupuncture needles through the scalp covering and they would literally do open brain surgery with that with some anesthesia.

Whoa.

So they have needles that are bendable that can go into this and go around the cranium.

So there's so many, yeah, there's a lot of them.

Some people do, I've seen people do eye acupuncture.

I mean, could you imagine that?

I'm serious.

In a relationship, or you're they're low vibration, you're high vibration.

If they get sick and they're not working to get their body healthy, you have a possibility of pulling the energy onto you.

Whoa.

So it'll pull yours down in music and it'll you start to have a medium frequency.

So your gallbladder starts to get sick.

You start to get resentful and frustrated.

Welcome back to the the digital social hour.

I'm your host, Sean Kelly.

I'm here with my co-host, Wayne Lewis.

What up, what up?

And our guest today, Dr.

Chris Motley.

Thank you for having me.

I really appreciate it.

Absolutely, man.

Building.

Oh, I mean, it's great.

I mean, I love the setup and getting to know you guys already.

But yes, talking about age and how far I am behind the times.

But it's great to be here.

Thank you for letting me come here.

I really appreciate it.

Thank you.

Absolutely, man.

You're looking great for 45.

And the crazy thing about this is that,

like,

prior to I think me knowing that you were going to be on the show,

your clip popped up on my Explorer page, and you were talking about losing, like hair, hair loss is the combination of what, is bone weakness or

bone density, lack of bone

density because the body is not,

I guess, the minerals are going to the bone versus the hair follicles or something like that.

And the blood flow.

And if I talk too much, just tell me to back off because I get the nerd talk.

But yes, like we did one about the kidneys.

And so, what it talks about is how the kidneys are have hormones, right?

And it signals to your bone marrow to produce red blood cells.

So, it doesn't cause all hair loss, but if you have do have hair loss in one area of the head,

that means that blood flow and minerals may not be getting to the hair root along the bladder meridian in Chinese menace.

So, weak kidneys and bladder does not allow the bones to produce red blood cells, so your roots aren't nourished.

So, many people have kidney infections and UTIs that could result in hair loss.

And so you'll see where you ever have somebody come up to you and say, hey, when I take a shower, you know, their hair comes out.

But they're really stressed.

And they don't have a genetic history of hair loss because that's a big thing too.

But you see the small signs, signals in Chinese medicine.

And it seems like it helps out some individuals on media when we put those things out.

But it's really something I see every single day.

So it's always about weaknesses and imbalance.

So you are not about the Western medicine system.

You're more Chinese, right?

More Chinese medicine yes I have a lot of Western medicine doctor friends and we coincide and we work well together and I love that they could in a good way disprove what I'm saying or prove it in the sense that we can be congruent and talk about it yeah so there's no animosity you're working together no I have to say I've been in this business almost 20 years and so thankfully I can help a lot of people but I've I'm thankful that there's other doctors that are medical doctors and that route that would send people my way and I send them people their way so there are some times when individuals though would tell me like

you know, your bladder could be causing or creating some kind of distress in your skull, causing hair loss.

There may be some in the medical route that may not agree with that primarily, but I haven't had too much animosity.

Yeah.

So do you feel as if

Western medicine is ineffective?

Is that why you're going Chinese medicine?

Or do you feel like,

well, what's your overall take on Western medicine in general?

Because obviously there's a reason why you're like, nah, Chinese medicine's way better.

I think that both routes can have their way to help individuals, especially if you have an emergency, you have to have a surgery.

I've had to have a surgery, and we can talk about that later.

But

when I look at Eastern medicine, the reason I lean more towards it is because they use symptomatology in a different way than Western medicine.

So I don't say that I don't agree with Western.

I do agree with some of their tendencies and some of the things they use, it helps save lives, and I'm I'm so thankful for my friends who do it.

But when I look at symptoms, I can look usually on the skin, the eyes, the tongue, and that's what Chinese medicine does, and look at small patterns, even in behavior, and that gives me a preemptive way to find out what may be going on with the person.

So, for example, if a person comes to me and they have really dark circles under their eyes, and they say, my low back hurts right here in the low back,

If usually they go to a practitioner, they may say, well, you just need to, you know, do some PT.

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But my mind is like, well, you probably have kidney issues, and the kidneys are right where you're pointing to.

It may not show on a UTI test for urinary tract infection.

But if you get really extensive testing, guys, I'm telling you, I have labs that will test proteins of certain types of bacteria.

You will find that there's bacteria that's hiding in the kidneys.

And overall, I've seen this hundreds of times.

And that's not patting myself on the back.

But I do wish that there was more of a congruency with Eastern and Western medicine, that there was more of a mesh.

And there's a lot of practitioners that do that, that, though.

Right.

Yeah, I wish Western was more preventative and holistic, like the Eastern approach.

And when we say preventative, too, I agree.

I wish that we'd have whole sections of hospitals that were basically geared for preemptive measures.

And I understand that some I've had patients that come in that need to get a hip replacement or a knee replacement.

And many times, orthopedic medicine would say, okay, just wait till it actually gets injured before we have a surgery, or we'll do PT, which all can work.

But there's in my mind,

there's no ROI on preventative medicine.

It's,

yeah, I mean, it's, it's,

right?

There is, there is lots of, I guess, controversy on how

much money is involved, time involved, quality of life is involved with preventative medicine.

Because,

you know, measuring the amount of funding that you have to put into, like, taking herbs or doing some preventative,

in most cases, a lot less than if you had to have surgeries and such yeah yeah way less yeah one of the things you specialize in is acupuncture I've never gotten it so walk me through the health benefits of acupuncture okay so in the body we all have it they talk about nerves transmitting electrical signals to make your movement in Chinese medicine the acupuncture are basically pathways that are flowing through your muscles and your fascia they do show this on research there's small tubes that run through your fascia and your tissue and they transmit electrical signals so it's literally electrical signals that go up and down the the body.

They call it bipolar electric signals.

But if you ever have an area around the body where there's a problem, the electricity will actually build up around that area to try to heal it.

So in Chinese medicine, so let's say somebody had an infection in their spleen, like if you had mono when you were a kid,

your body will take electrical signals and try to put it all around the spleen.

And the spleen then will try to heal.

And what happens is if it crowds it, then it will stagnate the energy and the blood, and it doesn't allow the electricity to flow down the line to the next organ, like a highway.

So then they put a needle in the area around the spleen to help open up the energy to flow down

the line.

Does that make sense?

Because the body's trying to heal it.

It's like there's something going on here.

So if I gave you an acupuncture point, what the acupuncturist would do is check the points and find out which ones are blocked so the energy would flow to the next highway and the next organ.

Because it's basically in one day, when you wake up, you have a highway, 12 highways of energy on each side of your body that are circulating electricity all day.

Right.

And so you try to find the blocks in each highway and that will tell you along with circadian rhythm where the problems are at.

Interesting.

How deep does acupuncture go down the needles?

Oh man.

Yeah very deep.

Yeah, you can get micro needles guys that are like in Japanese style acupuncture any Korean hand acupuncture.

Very, very light.

Very light.

Some people just press it and pull the needle back out.

I've seen needles go, I've had it done on me where the needle is is this long and go all the way down to the bone.

And you feel it.

You usually know if you have a fleshy part, you'd be surprised.

You don't feel it as much as you would think.

If you're on a place that's very blocked, I will tell you, sometimes it can be tender, but I've seen, physically seen brain surgeries

in China and in Japan, where they would use acupuncture needles through the scalp.

covering and they would literally do open brain surgery that was some anesthesia.

Whoa.

So they have needles that are bendable that can go into this and go around the cranium.

cranium.

So there's so many, yeah, there's a lot of them.

Some people do, I've seen people do eye acupuncture.

I mean, could you imagine that?

I'm serious.

Oh, man.

But yes, it can go deep.

But

there's acupressure too.

Now,

acupressure, there's going to be the argument that says, what's acupressure to acupuncture?

Which one's better?

Many of my mentors that have taught me said, yes, this type of needle like silver, gold, stainless steel are better or then acupressure.

But what they say is all about vectors.

So, how old school I am, you remember, like the old school antennas where they can measure, put an antenna and it'll pick up on the frequency that's basically existing in the radio, right?

And it'll transmit it through the wire, right?

They say that's what happens with a needle.

So, if you get the right vector for the needle, it'll actually push the signal into the tissue that the body needs.

So, the body will choose the frequency it needs.

And so, with acupressure, if you can put your hand or your finger into the right vector, you can open up the tissue just as efficiently as a needle would do if you have the right vector.

That's the argument.

I've seen it work pretty well, and it's all about frequencies and what the body craves.

Wow,

you're also a specialist in parasites.

Oh, yeah.

So, I'm on day three of a parasite class.

No way.

What do you do?

I'm taking some pill I bought off Amazon.

Yeah.

So, what are some common ways parasites enter the body?

Yeah, I heard about that.

I forget who was speaking about that, how it's

bipolar, could be a parasite cleanse, being hungry, like angry

when you're hungry

is a clear sign that you have parasites.

Interesting, I didn't know that.

You can.

Before I go down rabbit trail, just remember, stall me, because I'll tell you this, with parasite cleansing, the biggest way that most people don't realize they get it is going to be through fruits and vegetables.

If you wash your fruits and vegetables, I get pictures all the time, like, and soak them in apple cider vinegar and some water.

I've seen worms that come out to the surface because they eat, they eat sugars.

That's what they want.

That's one of your basic ways, especially from other people.

You can get parasites from other people, especially the parasites in the teeth.

I've had people that get their guns cleaned out and their jaw cavitations, and there's parasite eggs that they find when they scoop them out.

At the dentist?

At a biological dentist, and I don't say this to be scary.

A biological dentist?

What's the difference?

A biological dentist will usually try to find ways because I have have a lot of dentist friends but they'll use things that don't have too much preservatives they try to use more of an organic route i've never heard

biological dentists no i wish because i hate that they use the fake mint and the um that one ingredient that's bad for you yeah blocks your third eye for yeah like a lot of fluoride

yes um if you go to a biological dentist what they'll do is they could um take a picture of your gums gum line and i can tell you stories guys but they'll go through the gum line and they have cavitation so if you ever got your wisdom teeth taken out

what they'll do is they'll leave the pocket open and so the pocket stays open.

And what will happen, even if you're trying to wash it out, is they'll fester.

So anything you eat, fruit and vegetables, the parasites will get in there.

And then if they reproduce, they'll lay eggs.

So you'll have a lot of times where it gets in the gum line and they'll scoop it out and they'll culture it and you see little eggs.

And it's really interesting, though.

But when you get it through fruits and vegetables, and another person may have it in their gum line, can it be spread that way through research and what I've seen clinically?

Yes.

One of the biggest ways we talked about was lakes and rivers.

And I got a lot of kickback on that as well people were like saying are you a fear monger and you're saying that you should never go into a lake or river not at all well that's where most parasites lie they do like they're in fish and it's their habitat and I have had I had thousands of people message me and say hey I remember I got giardia horribly when I jumped into the river wow and I got sick because I swallowed the water

so you can get it through fruits and vegetables other people can get it through lakes and rivers you know or bad water sources and

through pets as well really yeah because pets I'll say this like yeast like for example certain yeast can come through our skin certain yeast can go on the on the fur of animals but if you had parasites and they had pin worms and they had larvae and they're sitting on your couch and such and they're so small and microscopic their eggs you know the kid the dog kisses you on the mouth or something like that

I've had patients or young people young guys

I remember they got really sick with parasites and they shit confirmed on their testing and the one parasite that we found was that ones in canines I was like do you guys have dogs and they're like oh, yeah, they let them lick them all around their mouth and kiss them.

And so they have it.

So

with that, guys, parasite cleansing, when you take the herbs,

the mood does change.

And the reason being is because they produce tons of toxins.

And one of the main toxins, or a few of them are called, phenolic acid, endol, these are all fancy words.

But they're a chemical toxin that you find in a lot of our plastics.

a lot of our chemical plants.

So they produce the same type of reaction in you.

And they'll fry your nerves.

and they will change a person, especially on new moons, lunar phases, and high pressure changes and a person can go into ADD, bipolar anxiety, because it triggers their genetics

with their dopamine and serotonin levels being altered.

And I hope that wasn't too much, but you'll notice that certain people, have you had it where,

like, say a lady has hormonal changes,

or you know, it's a full moon, and people say, oh,

I had one of my friends, she told me, she goes, hey, the crazies are coming out when it's full moon.

But, you know, in the old days,

they said that when somebody had syphilis,

and syphilis is a bacteria, but they would say they go crazy because on the new moon, the full moons and the lunar phases, it presses down on you, pressurize.

So all the toxins in your tissue that's been dormant push into your lymph,

your bloodstream.

So then your brain starts to get affected, and you're like, why am I in such a bad mood?

And so you start to get a lot of fun.

So how can you walk around with syphilis that long?

I guess you can.

Well, you can if, say, syphilis or like, syphilis has a lot of the same shape as borillia, like lion.

But any parasite, most of them are protozoa.

If you're getting on the cleanse, they can be dormant because they can insist.

I know that's a lot of gross things to talk about, guys, but really, we don't realize how long they can hang out.

Because if you imagine that if you lived in a house and you could stay dormant and be fed all the time with the same nutrient, this dark environment, warm, cozy, do not relieve.

Yeah, it's like a roommate that doesn't need to pay rent.

Yep.

You don't know he lives there.

That's right.

Somebody's in the basement playing games and they just take your food and nothing against playing games or anything.

But I'm like, that's the kind of effect that parasites and even certain bacteria and viruses have.

Wow.

What is actual Lyme disease itself?

Because

you hear it.

I've never met anyone with Lyme that even.

I'm from Jersey.

They're from Tex, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

A lot of people in Jersey had it.

Oh, for real?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Lyme disease,

now it's documented all over the world.

Lyme disease is just composed of certain types of bacteria, parasites, and virus.

So they say it comes from Lyme, Connecticut.

It can be carried by ticks.

Is that why it's called Lyme?

Because it came from Lyme.

Oh, okay.

I was figuring it out some kind of acronym.

Yeah, but if you look at bacteria and viruses, they're always named after something like

the place they were found or the scientists who found it.

But the infections are like, forgive me for going through it, but it's like Borylia, which is the actual Lyme.

Babisia, which is like malaria, it's a parasite.

Rickettsia, what gets you Rocky Mountain spotted fever, like the dots.

Bartonella, which is cat scratch fever, like the song, because you can get it from dogs and cats.

Scratch.

Yep.

It's in their teeth.

Wow.

And their nails.

Ehrlichia, which is Erlichiosis, which is rashes, fevers, constant body ache, arthritis.

Epstein-Barr virus, which is big.

Anoplasma, mycoplasma people with pneumonia.

They can get it from like the tick bite.

And the list is starting to grow.

But basically, you can get it from mites, fleas, ticks, spiders, mosquitoes.

You can get anything that can transfer blood.

And so if a person out there has like symptoms of like extreme migraines, fevers, unexpected weight loss, digestive issues, heart palpitations, because I had Lyme

really bad.

But the thing is,

you had it?

No, because everybody thinks you look normal.

They always say, but you don't look bad.

You look fine.

You don't feel normal.

No.

I'm telling you, I treat tons of Lyme patients and

individuals that usually would come to me and say, hey, I feel like I'm going crazy.

Literally, like I'm going mental.

And we would do certain testing that would test the toxicity of the brain.

We'd find out it would lead back to Bobesia or Lyme.

So

with all that to say guys, it's like it's not something I take lightly because when you have that type of infection, they can burrow into your brain tissue.

Jeez.

And they can burrow into your joints.

So a lot of times people that say, why does one sister have arthritis and the other one doesn't?

You test one of them.

Even diabetes too.

It's hereditary, but you know.

It is.

It's like how it's triggered.

I have a question.

This is an overall question.

I've seen something that I read that said

gluten-free foods actually block the brain.

There are evidence that gluten can't

do

gluten-free actually blocks the brain.

There is.

I thought it was the other way around.

No, no, no, no, no.

They said gluten-free food is actually bad for the brain.

Wow.

Okay.

Whoa, whoa.

There.

Our discussions.

I do have a really good friend of mine, Dr.

Peter Osborne, who's a master at gluten, you know, like gluten education.

I do a lot of work with people with gluten.

I haven't really, I haven't read that yet.

I need to look into that.

So I'm going to be honest with you, like with gluten-free food, there are some arguments about the protein of gluten.

And so

with that to say, they say that gluten has other forms like gliadin, gliadin, which is in gluten.

And so that protein is what attaches to your thyroid and to certain organs.

And that can cause the autoimmune.

But I need to read about that.

I haven't read that, but that's awesome.

So what is the Chinese medicine clock?

Oh, man.

Okay.

So the clock?

The clock.

When we do clock analysis, just like circadian rhythm, when we talked about the highway, think about the highway transmitting signals like a car.

Every hour of the day,

every two hours of the day, the highway, one highway is energized.

I hope that makes sense.

So you'll say, for instance, from 1 a.m.

to 3 a.m.

is the liver highway.

It's crowded the energy around your liver.

Then it goes into the lung.

So it literally transfers over energy into the lung area to help nourish the lungs.

So you have basically

a 24-hour clock that has two hours each day devoted to the healing of one organ system.

So when you have this traveling of the energy around the body, if a person has a block in that highway, it will stall around the organ and ca you'll know that the organ has a problem because the energy is trying to stall around it.

Does that make sense?

Yeah.

And so you'll notice that certain times a day when you have a symptom, that's how I know that organ has the problem.

Wow.

So if you go to a person and you're doing a parasite cleanse, right?

I get it.

You can say, hit me up and say, hey, Molly, what's I'm getting up at 2 a.m.

every morning and consistently, and you're doing a parasite cleanse, like, it's definitely in your liver.

Or in the middle of the day, I can't keep awake.

I have to go to sleep.

And then I go, well, how's your digestion?

Because from 1 p.m.

to 3 p.m., that's your small intestine times, where you're basically trying to do what?

Trying to dissolve food.

So you notice with the action of the organ in Western medicine, coincide it with your circadian rhythm, and you will find a lot about a person.

Wow.

Just what's happening throughout the world.

So each hour of the day, your body is working on a certain part of it.

So you pay attention to your body at certain hours.

That'll let you know what's going on.

That's exactly right.

And what you'll do is if you take a little diary, which is the most boring thing in the world to do of yourself, but if you go, well, my shoulder's hurting, pay attention.

What time of the day?

And then correlate it to your parents.

Really?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, I had gallbladder issues.

Did your mom have it?

Did your dad have it?

Did your grandparents?

And that stuff gets passed down genetically, too.

Wow.

So does everyone have the same 24-hour clock or is it different?

No, everybody's supposed to have it.

And people then argue and go, hey, what if you go to Japan?

Is it somewhere there?

And I'm like, I hope.

Pray to God that when I had COVID,

I would be cool during the day, but at night, I would get so sick.

And this was when, like, like, it was obviously going away.

Yeah, but night was my sickest time.

As soon as it hit eight, nine, I got extremely sick.

But during the day, I was fine.

Oh, okay.

So, eight to nine would be his adrenal time, his thyroid time.

It started to become the triple warmer and circadian rhythm.

So, you're basically saying the heart, the pericardium, the muscles around your heart, the adrenaline and thyroid, all probably being challenged by the virus.

So, you could say that that was your weak point.

So, your body

felt like it was extremely hot i mean sweating not through my sweater like extremely hot so what happens when you you pick up the pace and do your exercise your thyroid and your adrenals kick in and you sweat

so your body's doing the same action to fight the infection as you would do to do a workout

so so that was a good thing then it was a good thing because your body's actually working and that they always say that fevers uh i hate to say it rashes fevers high temperatures are all sign that your body's actually trying to do what it's supposed to do but it must have really affected the muscles around the heart and your adrenaline thyroid because that's where the most action was happening yeah no I was like I would be like sweating super sick I my sweater would be like drenched oh yeah that's when I would say okay uh you have you know you have COVID yeah so you have COVID you have new COVID and here's some antiviral herbs to help along with what you're doing with your medical doctor and then I'd say let's nourish your adrenals and your thyroid but then I would look at your history and say hey did your mom or dad or anybody them have like really low adrenal function?

Do they have any type of reproductive issues?

And it's just your body's responding as your family would.

What hours are the most commonly, like, I guess, people have the most issues with?

Oh,

American culture?

Yeah.

Oh, gallbladder.

Western.

Gallbladder.

Oh, man.

What time is gallbladder time?

Like 11 p.m.

to 1 a.m., where people literally go to sleep.

That's late.

Yeah, it is.

Do you ever get to where you guys may just sleep through the day, you know, like through the night?

But how many people who tell you, man, my sleep was horrible last night?

And I've never seen it.

Mine differ every now and then.

It depends what's on your mind.

It just depends what's on my my mind.

Yeah.

It's either going to be the gallbladder time around 11 p.m.

to 1 a.m.

Or usually like

at the time where your body goes into what we call the kidney phase, which is usually around 3 to 5 p.m.

Where people bonk.

They're like, I can't even keep my eyes open, or I need an energy drink or I need a big cup of coffee.

Because the kidneys and adrenals are related, and that's when your body's supposed to go in the call vagatonia.

You're supposed to relax.

But in American culture, we push ourselves.

We keep going.

Absolutely.

so we completely drain our kidneys and that time you've you've trained your kidneys and adrenals to always do something and they're tired so you're gonna bonk wow and if your gallbladder is infected because we you know i always make this joke guys i used to eat fudge rounds and drink coca-cola and everything you can imagine with all the sugar and what does it do to your gallbladder just trashes your gallbladder right um you throw in there you know antibiotics uh birth control, bad water, you know, just, you know, stress, resentment, frustration, anger, which is the emotions of that gallbladder.

And you'll have people that get gallstones or very sludgy gallbladder and they'll wake up all night.

Is that what causes the kidney stones?

Kidney stones, whenever somebody has extreme amounts of fear or they have genetic predispositions of being in an environment that was very fearful and frightening, where it shuts down the kidneys and the adrenals.

And so you had this clogging of all the movement of fluid in the kidneys.

Wow.

So you'll eat stuff that has high oxalates, high calcium.

Yes, that'll cause it.

But a diet that's not beneficial

can create mineral deposits in the kidneys as well.

So, you have to really watch the kidneys because infections will get in there.

Strep, staph, that'll do it too.

How important is fasting to you?

Oh, man.

We diameter act every doctor that, but they all have their different views.

Everybody's has their different view.

I just did a really good interview, Dr.

Mindy Pell's, and she is big about fasting and talks about the reset that occurs.

I think it's very beneficial.

Okay.

But I was.

I gotta worry about the times because you had a clock in in fasting.

So

how do those correlate?

That's the biggest thing is like it's so bio-individual.

Because

I couldn't tell you or I couldn't tell you like do this particular time.

And they say that there's there are certain genes.

I do a gene test where it will tell a person if they're genetically fit for a fast because they don't have the capacity.

Or they do have the capacity if they can fast to tear down fats very well.

That makes sense.

So docs will go,

you should do it.

Everybody should do it.

But this person with this body type type should do it four hours a day.

This should be eight hours a day.

If your body genetically has capacity to break down good fats, like from almonds and avocados, you should be able to fast very well and hit ketosis.

If you can't break down fats very well, or even break down your sugars very well, it's gonna be very hard for you.

But how do you know if you can break down the sugars?

Usually, if you get the shakes.

If you get the shakes easy and have low blood sugar, you know, when you go, man, I get hungry and I get really, really fast.

Like if I don't eat something within a three-hour span, it's gonna be for you to do it fast you can train yourself

so does that that means that your body doesn't break down sugar well when you get hangry yes because you're not using sugar efficiently okay because sugar is a fast burner and you and you eat that sugar and your body can metabolize it for two or three hours and then your body goes well i'm not used to burning fat so i'm not going to use it

so i'm a skinny body type right yeah i burn sugars fast yeah i burn fats fast but with fasting such great benefits even with chronic infections chronic diseases.

I mean, it's just that you had to find what fits specifically.

I hope that's not too big, guys.

But even like ladies that have their hormonal cycles, depending on their age, what their diet, what their background is, you could have certain lengths of the fasting.

Yeah, I think past 72 hours, it starts killing cancer cells, right?

Yep.

So it's past 72 hours.

I thought it killed cancer cells throughout.

No.

You need to hit a certain point.

And they say they get to, like, when they get to.

I mean, that's an extreme fast.

That's nothing.

A three-day fast.

Yeah.

Yep.

And whenever

the cells start to recycle everything, all the bad, you know inflammation patterns and cells within your body I think sky's the limit they've been talking about different research where it's killing off cancer cells It's starting to work on parasites starting to work on viruses Wow And that's why people will have the sweats They'll get kind of sick afterwards because their body has to find a way to push all the toxins out.

Yeah, it's crazy.

I love fasting.

Do you believe a person's emotion and mindset can cause disease?

Most definitely.

I think if I wanted to talk about something the most would be that.

There's a chicken and the egg.

In Chinese medicine, each organ system is congruent with a certain emotion.

But I don't try to separate from Western medicine.

For example, they say if your liver is off, you'll be angry.

If you lived in an angry environment, they say that the liver is challenged because if, let's say you had angry parents and it caused your body to create toxins, they say it's proven that you create toxins from your thoughts.

If they're toxic, what does your liver have to do?

It

has to clean out the toxic load.

If you're consistently in an angry environment, your liver is going to have to work,

which screws up your own methylation detox patterns.

So you'll recycle your liver toxins and it'll get into your brain and you'll be angry.

You'll get irritated.

Wow.

See, and so if you had kidney issues,

your kidney, if you're always afraid, your adrenals are always charged.

You're around people that are afraid.

You're afraid of them.

Adrenals are putting out a lot of adrenaline and cortisol.

You're afraid of them as in bullying, bullying,

getting abused, trauma.

I mean, my heart goes out to people.

And then the adrenals shrink, the kidneys shrink, the kidneys can't put out the hormone, erythropoetin, right?

To tell the bones to create red blood cells, and people start having anemia, start having hair loss because they are afraid.

So, kidneys is fear, liver is anger, anger, gallbladder is frustration, gallbladder is frustration, your small intestine.

If you can't digest food, you have a horrible gut system.

Small intestine usually means you're lost or abandoned.

Lost or abandoned mentally.

Mentally, you can't find focus, you know what your direction is.

That's all small intestine heart.

Also, the heart is linked to totally.

They're the energy producers, your food, and your heart.

What about negativity?

Oh, negativity.

Usually,

I think it's the cavities.

I'm telling you, negativity, though, would be like, usually, you would say like a mitigated gall.

Like, you know, some people are always like kind of upset.

It's usually liver.

Oh, yeah.

And they're always kind of like negative.

Oh, so that falls under the liver, too.

Yeah, you can't detox very well.

Okay, so what about positivity?

Positivity.

How does that affect the organs?

Oh, they say that your body gets into a higher vibration.

It's a big term.

It's a higher vibe.

If you can think higher positivity, they say neurologically, it should shut off the areas of your brain that basically harbor frequencies of anxiety, frustration, and fear.

So the more positivity you think, you have to retrain the programmed cycle of the brain.

Gotcha.

So when people say to fake that you're positive, you need to.

You need to, okay.

You have to, because you're not going to create a pattern.

They say that it usually takes words or positive wording about 800 to 1,000 times just to get the brain to start to believe it.

Wow, a thousand times.

That's crazy how energy is

directly connected to health.

Exactly.

Like, if you thought something like, seriously, people say something like, talk to your parasites.

He's like, that is mental.

What are you talking about?

But it's truth.

But if you talk positively to your organ, they say that each organ has its own enteric nervous system.

Like, they're each working on its own.

But if you can create patterns between your brain and the organ, this is what they say, and you think positive about the organ, the organ will start to meld with your brain to say, okay, let's create positive feedback.

I want to get rid of all the things that would make me have toxicity.

Whoa.

And there's some great researchers out there, but I'd say personally in the office, I have seen people that literally you clear out all the parasites, the yeast, the mold, everything,

and their negativity keeps them still in a in a you can look at their blood work, but it keeps it in that negative toxic state Even when their blood shows that things are clear really and it's kind of unusual like your mindset because because I don't know about you guys.

I'm always like, I call it the facts and figures.

I like math.

I'm half Asian.

I like math.

I like Rubicube.

But I always thought about stuff in settled form.

But then it got into this energetic realm where I started to see people, like, their personality mimics the way they heal.

If they're jittery and always doing this, their acupuncture system was always jittery and moving quick.

And so when they started to change their mindset, Without really me doing it, their health would change dramatically.

Really?

Yeah, emotions are, man.

That's the one one thing I love talking about.

What I'm talking about in relationships.

I see you don't have a ring on.

Are you married?

I'm not married.

Okay, so

almost.

But anyway,

what about relationships?

How does that directly affect the health in certain people?

Oh, man.

Relationship.

You ever see the notion that a married couple will look like each other?

Yes.

Even people who date after a while, they start looking like

you look like your pet.

Polaric patterns, they call them polaric patterns, how you form in the womb.

Your hands follow, the cells follow a certain pattern, a polarity, positive and negative electrical charges to create your form.

The more you're around another person's pattern, they say that you can actually transpose some of their pattern into yours.

You actually vibrate or have a resonant frequency with them.

Whoa.

So you actually start to follow the same patterns they have physically in the body.

So your cells follow the same pattern.

In relationships, this is what they say, and I've experienced that, but in a relationship, if somebody, they say is high vibration, right?

or you're their low vibration, you're high vibration.

If their organs are not balanced and they're sick and they're holding parasites, please don't get mad at me if I'm saying this to anybody.

But

if they get sick,

if your organs are healthy and they're not working to get their body healthy, you have a possibility of pulling the energy onto you.

Whoa.

So you can actually actuate.

You ever see people say, like, if you speak the same frequency, you amplify each other's signal.

That's how music works right if that person's vibration is low and yours is high you have to meet in the middle so it'll pull yours down in music and it'll you start to have a medium frequency so your gallbladder starts to get sick and you start to get resentful and frustrated so you have to find a person in my opinion with a relationship that has the same same views of positivity and love like you you know it's like if you find somebody's kind of spiteful or angry and always finds something bad in somebody else you're gonna know so you do it and it's not woo-woo It's literally science that would say that, you know what, I'm going to actuate with this person.

And to the point, if you are with the person and you know yourself is sick, when I had Lyme disease, I wasn't in a relationship because I knew that my organs were sick.

My heart was not good.

I would pull that person down.

Wow.

So I worked on my heart.

And so I was like, why?

I was like, because I was getting negative.

And then so.

I hope that was not too much, but in a relationship,

you better make sure because whatever organ they have is off, correlate it to the Chinese medicine clock, correlate it to the emotions, and start to notice: do I start to do the same thing?

Because the healthier you two work together on, whoever you're, you know, when your partner is with you, work hard, work strong, and you're going to fortify each other, amplify, and get stronger together.

But if they don't want to work out with you or do a parasite cleanse with you, if they think, oh, it's crazy, don't do that, you're going mental.

Be mindful.

No, she did it with me.

She's rocking with it.

See?

So

I'm still trying to understand how do we start looking alike that's i'm still stuck on that so how did the body changes the face changes like it is that exactly like okay so when you start looking like you're you

like if you have you there's a thing called curly and photos have you heard those no no so what they do is they use um it was found by mistake by a researcher in curly and basically they would take a hand and they can measure and photograph through an x-ray pad but they would take a picture of the hand and they can measure the light that was coming off your currents of your hand right like the electrical patterns

the meridian system.

So they would have people that had missing fingers and they put their hand on the same pad, and they still have the pattern of a whole hand.

And you can do it with leaves.

Leaves, you cut the leaf in half and you still have the whole picture of the whole leaf

because the pattern is already set.

So when you're born, the pattern's set, and all your cells are doing are going rolling over end on end to form your finger pattern.

Right.

So if you actuate with somebody and they're there beside you enough,

you start to vibrate with them.

Maybe the shape of their nose pattern starts to affect the polaric patterns in your nose.

So your cells start to actually grow out to the same pattern that they're in.

So your body will physically start to morph itself.

Morph itself, yeah.

Yo, that's fucked up.

That's normal.

I know you guys are like, can we get rid of it?

Can we get done with this?

No, no, no, no.

This is interesting, right?

Because, I mean,

this answers a lot of questions.

Well, at least some.

Some people are going to agree with you.

Oh, there's some people going to do that.

Some people are like, this dude's crazy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Do you ever see that?

People say, say, like, look at their dog.

No, no, no, just like their dog.

No, I see people together that's been together so long and they look just alike.

Yep.

And you think it's your eyes, but it's not yours.

It's like they follow it.

It's just like, I think it's crazy that when you're a kid and you grow older and they say, oh, you look more like your great-grandfather now as you got older.

I was like, why?

Because the polaric shifts and their patterns and their electrical field shifted just like the grandfather would.

Is it true a lot of diseases like cancer start in low frequency environments?

That's what they say.

And I see, like they say, with, you know, because there's that talk about acidic in alkaline environments.

But low frequency also could be, they say, in the presence of low emotional frequencies.

So you can have acidity from high amounts of yeast fungus.

Some researchers say that cancers thrive in the acidic yeast environment.

So if you have an infection that's creating such acidity in your body, the vibratory patterns of your own cells actually decrease.

So you're trying to get a nice healthy vibration.

All of a sudden it's slow.

So it can't operate 100%.

So cancer cells are there to do a couple things.

They create, because they destroy your other cells, right?

So high infection sites, they say, can create it, high yeast and fungus.

Emotionally, can I go on this part?

They say that

there's research, and some people may know about it, have you heard of German New Medicine?

No.

Well, the researcher was Dr.

Hammer.

Some people may think he was kind of different with his research, but he developed cancer after his son died.

but basically what he said it was that the emotional patterns that they did cat scans on individuals and they found that there he did like over

don't quote me on this we had to research but i think it was over 90 000 cat scans whoa and he would find different rings around their brain

and the rings were they thought they were anomalies they thought this is just a pattern in a ct scan but what they found was when you're in the womb and you're developing, you have three types of cells,

mesoderm, endoderm, ectoderm.

And from these cell layers, all your whole body forms, your organs, your tissues, your skin, everything.

But he found out these little areas in the brain were correlating with the area that the person would develop cancer.

So he found that each person that had it had a huge traumatic event in their life of injury of emotion that settled into that area of the brain and created a field.

Wow, so

things that happen in life create cancer.

That's what he was saying.

I can't say that because I'm very careful because I don't want anybody that does cancer.

Well, I mean it's a direct correlation.

There's a correlation with they say emotions.

Wow.

With your emotions.

And it just lays dormant.

It lays dormant and so it creates a program with the organ that the anomaly, right?

There's a connection between that area and the organ.

That's what they're saying.

So if like, let's say

the kidney, the kidney had some form of tumor or cyst or cancer, they would find that there were certain areas of the brain that would actually have an anomaly that showed there was a trauma that created fear.

Wow.

And the fear was creating a program with the kidney and the kidney would build up, you guys build up to help respond to the fear.

So the kidney would go into what we call a refugee complex.

So they would say, I'm out of water.

I'm out of, I'm a fish out of water.

I'm scared.

I need water to survive.

So the kidney would swell.

This kidney would swell to actually absorb more water to survive.

But what happens when the kidney swells so much, it has to be broken down?

It has to naturally break down.

So they say sometimes infections get into the kidney to break it down, it allows it to happen.

So, you have these environments that are set up to allow growth and tear down, and so it can create a difference in the body where maybe cysts form, maybe fibroids.

I can't say that for certain guys, but that's what they say: those low-frequency vibrations.

I hope that doesn't ruffle any feathers, but that's insane with micro.

It's worth it, it's out there.

Yeah, I mean,

so

overall, when it comes to health, obviously, it's food and what you actually put in your body.

It is.

The things you do every day, but it's also your

environment, your physical environment, the things that you're involved in, the people that you're around, the things that you deal with emotionally are actually a direct correlation, which are actually a lot more important.

Well, not a lot more important, but equally as important as working out, diet, and everything else.

Yeah, it totally is.

Like when we talked about low frequency environments, you know, if you don't have proper workout and the proper food, if you eat something that's too high in starches or carbs, if you don't get enough fatty fatty acids, but if you're around people too, that and I'm not putting down people that are around you if you have people that are negative, but if they're not in that healthy

negative people around them, you know, but if you do, it creates a lower vibrational pattern in the body.

And, you know, because like we talked about any type of like, you know, autoimmune disease, or if you're talking about cancers, and I don't plan to be a cancer expert, and I'm not saying that, you know, low vibrations cause all cancers or any of that.

I'm saying that when you have lower environments of vibration, you start to see that diseases and infections are probably going going to be more rampant

in those areas.

And it all starts with food,

in my opinion.

So when we talk about yeast or fungus growing and things growing in those environments, your gut bacteria,

your gut bacteria basically are what helps you create enzymes to digest your food.

It helps you create neurotransmitters.

It helps you with breakdown of toxic substances.

If you eat something like if you eat too much processed food, eat too much, you know, refined carbs, you literally are giving fuel to the guys that not every bacteria is bad.

E.

coli is not bad in all itself.

People give it a bad rap.

It does certain functions in your body, but feeding the improper foods in the improper water and the improper air will always create a low vibration state.

So and I hope that you know guys I didn't go too far on the

math.

So what before we close out what actual foods

from meats to some vegetables on a you know low low end should people be eating every day?

Well

again and hosting.

Starting with the meats.

With the meats.

They say that vibratory patterns of like pork

can be lower for individuals.

They say the anti-inflammatory diet that meats like lamb and all grass-fed beef, even bison, are probably the more

advantageous to an individual.

Certain fish.

Now, with that, those are some of your most beneficial.

I can't say pork is bad all the time.

I come from a Korean background.

Pork is like a bad thing.

Pork is like really good.

When you did it in your soups, they say that certain, certain,

the marrow of bone of pork actually builds a lot of the blood in your body.

So it's how you clean the meat.

It's kosher to Korean culture.

So I don't want to be vague, but it's like it really does depend on in general, like about how your body genetically can break down the food.

But I'd say that, like, good grass-fed, those are the meats I was talking about.

Tumin and salmon, not everybody can eat it.

But they say that lighter fish, like a Pritican diet, like a Mediterranean diet, those lighter fishes are probably up on the scale that you should eat.

So an anti-inflammatory diet is probably the basic pattern that most people should try to follow because it's not going to create too much histamine response in the body either.

So,

and with the fruits and vegetables, I always say if you can reduce high sugar fruits.

Like if you have some like pineapple, I love pineapple, guys.

Don't you know?

It's high sugar?

It can be high sugar.

Bananas can be high sugar.

Certain types of apples.

Watermelon can be sugary depending on what phase it's in.

What about purple grapes?

Purple grapes can be very high.

Though I love purple.

Don't get me wrong, guys.

It's just like I'm saying that if you say high sugar glucose index fruits and vegetables, you have to moderate it and make sure that your other parts, like your good proteins and your fats, are in that congruency.

So eat fruit along with the protein meal.

Yep.

Always try to find foods, in my opinion, that are low glycemic index and try to follow that pattern.

Okay.

And I hope that wasn't too like.

So what fruits would you recommend?

Blueberries?

Blueberries are always good.

Blueberries.

The brain, right?

Yeah.

Blueberries are good for the kidneys because they're colored blue, like the water element and trees.

Blueberries, blackberries, raspberries, certain types of cherries.

I don't like.

Well, the thing is, like.

I hate blueberries.

I hate blueberries.

I can't eat them raw.

Yo, if you have to find out the fruits, I always say tell individuals that whenever you find,

if you find any fruits that you like and you don't like, look at the anti-inflammatory diet and try to model, find things in there that you like.

Gotcha.

Okay.

Then be inventive.

Take the things you like and make a juice or something.

yeah i want to make a diet i i don't want anybody out there to think that when i talk about chronic yeast or fungus for a diet or low vibration what i'm trying to say is you don't want to live a stagnant life where you can't enjoy a pizza pizza gotcha gotcha

like you you never have a cup of ice cream or a bowl of ice cream no gotcha get your gut settled and get your yeast and your and your bacteria really really in a good formation you'll be able to eat it absolutely man i could talk to you for hours i i hope this was good and guys can I just say though, I mean, for anybody out there, though, I'm just saying that it does have like those diseases we talked about, like Lyme disease.

They deal with cancer and autoimmune.

The things like when I talk about them, like I'm just trying to say, like for me, like when I say low vibration or anything that could bring the vibration low, like an emotion or a food, my heart goes out to those individuals.

And I always tell them, like, give me some good feedback because I want to know like if there's extra research behind it, you know, and so I hope I didn't say anything too controversial for the podcast or anything like that.

Whatever's controversial, it'll be on the clip.

Where can people find you and ask for help and stuff?

Oh, my feed is at dr motley on Instagram and at dr motley on Facebook.

Um, and my website's drmotley.com.

Perfect.

Um, just try to get in Nashville.

All right, Wayne.

Health is wealth, baby.

Health is wealth.

Thanks for tuning in, guys.

See you next time.

Peace.