Secrets to Instagram Success and Multimillion Dollar Deals | Alex Moeller Digital Social Hour #42

You also spent a million dollars in under 24 hours in New York City.

How did you pull that off?

Yeah, that was an asshole move.

Posting the big money.

Well, now it's scary.

Well, people want to do harm.

Oh, yeah.

All those big crypto guys, they got people after them.

Four of them ended up dead last year.

Oh my God.

All right, welcome back to the digital social hour, guys.

I'm your host, Sean Kelly.

I'm joined today with my guest, Alex Moeller.

How are we doing?

What's going on, man?

Good to see you, man.

You too, bro.

I've been seeing you all over social media.

We've known each other for a year and we're finally meeting today.

Yeah, first time we're meeting.

I've seen you for like five years now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's incredible, dude.

I know I saw you back, I think, when you had a couple million followers, and all of a sudden, you're like at 8 million.

I'm like, what just happened?

Well, that's partially thanks to you.

So we'll dive into that.

How did you get started, man?

Yeah, man.

So it's kind of cool.

I always like to tell my story about I don't have the traditional entrepreneur story where I was dead broke or living on a friend's couch.

And I'm always very honest of like how I was brought up and grew up and had an incredible family and even some luxuries.

But the reality is that, you know, back in 2017, I was just in my comfort zone, right?

Living the Miami lifestyle, was going out a lot, was partying a lot.

And it was just a very destructive lifestyle.

And I kind of told myself, I've got got to do something about it.

And that was when Instagram really started picking up.

And that's kind of gave me the motivation, just seeing the big entrepreneurs like Grant and Ty Lopez and Gary Vee.

I'm like, what's the one thing they all have in common?

And it was, they all had Instagram followers.

So kind of just clicked and started the Instagram journey.

And here we are, man.

Absolutely.

Yes.

You were able to help people grow millions of followers.

How did you pull that off?

Yeah.

So, you know, it started, like I mentioned, with my own account.

i was like how do i grow on instagram youtube googling how do i grow on instagram and i found a strategy where i'd stay up till three in the morning i'd follow 500 people i'd literally sit there wait for them to follow me back and then i'd unfollow them which is kind of an asshole move but it started to work that's how i started yeah like it started to work i'd just go on hashtag entrepreneur follow everyone unfollow them the day and i just went crazy man i wouldn't sleep i'd wake up at three in the morning follow follow follow and it just started working for me man i started to realize i didn't know why i was doing it i had no idea why i was growing the followers i didn't have a major plan but i was like if all these big entrepreneurs have followers like why don't i maybe that's the the secret to the success and it worked for me man people started reaching out to me they're like alex how'd you get 2 000 followers how'd you get 3 000 followers And that's where my little Instagram consulting company was born.

There was a girl from Columbia that reached out to me.

She's like, Alex, how much do you charge?

I'm like, for what?

She's like, for the growth, for the followers.

I've seen you grow and it just kind of clicked for me like that very day i ran home i made a presentation it took me like two hours just to make a damn powerpoint presentation

and i i told her it's you know 99 a month i think i it was like 199 or 99 but she paid me for two months and then it clicked for me i was like holy shit imagine if i could sell a hundred people a thousand people i quit my nine to five that very day and started this instagram consulting company which then just kind of blew up man dude that shit blew up you were the biggest.

You were making millions off that stuff, man.

It's not only the biggest, like we were the very first.

Like, I got a big shout out for my business partner, Chris Frederick, who I know you have a relationship with.

But, you know, because I was doing the follow-on, follow stuff.

Like, we even created a software.

My buddy calls me and he's like, Alex, I think I could code a software that could automatically do that.

Cause even for like this Colombian girl, I'm having to do the follow-on, follow, and the consulting for 99 bucks a month.

Like it was great back then, but it was a lot of work.

It wasn't scalable.

A buddy calls me.

He's like, Alex, I've seen a couple softwares start to come out.

I could pretty much copy those softwares and we'll have our own software.

And that's really when I started to grow because now I have this automated software.

Basically didn't cost me anything because my buddy made it for me, charging $99 to $199 a month.

Now I've got hundreds of clients and my overhead is nearly zero.

It's my time.

So that's when it really started growing.

But then Instagram shut down the software.

I think we literally broke Instagram because imagine a thousand accounts liking thousands of pictures a minute.

And then that's when I met Chris Frederick.

And he's like, Alex, have you ever heard of the Instagram giveaway?

He's like, I created this model where instead of growing up 100 followers in a day, you can grow 20,000 followers in two days.

And I was like, get out of here.

That's that's a lie.

It's not possible.

Yeah.

And he's like, dude, trust me, I'll do it for your account.

And I thought, you know, I thought he was going to rob me.

I thought he was going to scam me.

Sure enough, within two days, my account grows 20,000 followers, all real people, not targeted entrepreneurs, but real people that clicked follow on my page.

And I was like, bro, what did you just do?

Like my top clients are growing a thousand followers a month and they love me.

Now I can offer them a way to grow 20,000 followers.

This is it, bro.

We struck gold.

So I started, I partnered with him.

And that's when I first started making my first $1,000 days, you know, 5,000.

And it was just, it just blew up from there.

Those were the days, man.

The days, bro.

Such an adrenaline rush waking up.

And some days you'd have a hundred thousand new followers well that's the thing dude like what when we'd sell this it people would just come back because you get addicted to it yeah right it's it's kind of it's kind of scary and crazy in a way because people would grow to 10 000 followers they'd get this validation from everybody in their circle of like wow you're famous now like how'd you get there now they're like i want more i want more i want more and not to mention those are the small clients like some of our bigger massive entrepreneurs like just just about anybody that has a million followers on Instagram,

basically we grew, they'd be in a competition with one another.

So we've got this massive entrepreneur.

And I'm not going to say any names, but there's a couple of specific ones.

Get to a million.

Then this one's like, I need to get to a million.

I need to get to 2 million.

And they started paying us hundreds of thousands of dollars to grow followers on Instagram.

Dude, it's crazy.

I know someone you guys grew to like over 10 million.

Yeah.

It's insane.

Yeah.

I mean, like, we pretty much grew almost everyone, right?

I'd like to say that if there's a big entrepreneur with a couple million followers, somehow, some way, you know, we had some sort of say in how they grew.

I mean, obviously, we're not the reason for their success.

Some of these guys are massively successful, but the thing with Instagram is that every single year, as you know, they change their algorithm.

It keeps changing and changing, and it becomes almost impossible to grow on the platform unless you use these strategies.

And then, of course, we got the haters of like, oh, you guys are buying fake followers or you guys are, you know, know this is ridiculous why would i invest in my account and it's like why would i invest in a billboard here in miami yeah is that stupid no i'm getting my name out there you know i want people to see that i'm the best and and it's social credibility when they see that blue check which now got destroyed

but they saw that blue check they saw the 10 000 followers they said i want to work with that person i believe in what that person is selling or telling me yeah as silly as it sounds just having followers has led to so many business deals for me.

I mean, it's every business deal I've ever done has come from all my podcast guests, all my deals, Instagram.

It's just building relationships.

People think that followers are just to feel good or to be famous, but it leads to, like you and I, like this is our first time literally meeting, but how long have we been connected?

How long have we known about each other?

Yeah.

Right.

And you just kind of keep up with each other.

And maybe we hadn't done too much business in the past, but now all of a sudden there's an opportunity.

It's like hey let's work on it like yesterday i i connected with the guy that it's a it's a deal that's gonna make me probably four or five hundred thousand dollars and with five minutes of time but he was somebody that i connected with back in 2017 one of those people that i clicked follow on he he messaged me and we connected we built a relationship and then didn't talk for four years bro guy comes back hits me up says hey alex i've got this company i can work with you on this let's do it four or five hundred thousand dollar deal.

All because I took the time to build a relationship with him back in 2017.

If this was a real world and I met him at a networking event and social media didn't exist, that guy would be gone.

If I didn't email him, if I didn't meet with him every single day, no, this guy was a 20-minute phone conversation.

He followed my journey on Instagram.

Now he comes back.

We're making half a million dollars together.

Amazing.

So, from the giveaway company, you got into ERC, right?

Yeah, I mean, not just ERC, like we built such a massive network of friends and business partners and just constant different deals, right?

From ERC to e-commerce to real estate to just about everything, right?

Because you meet the right people on social media and they have deals, and now you have all these relationships.

Like, hey, let's partner.

But yeah, I'd say, obviously, the biggest one that you know is ERC.

It's ridiculous.

I mean, I've seen the numbers you're making.

Can you first explain what ERC is?

Yeah, so ERC

was one of two government programs, right?

There was the PPP and ERC.

This is during COVID.

And essentially back during COVID, all the businesses ended up, 95% of businesses got PPP, which is incredible.

Of course, some business did it the wrong way.

Some businesses, you know, didn't apply correctly and now we're in trouble, but it was a real program.

It was the government's way of helping people that were stuck or in trouble because of the pandemic, literally, right?

So back during Trump administration, it was either or.

You could could either get the PPP loan or ERC.

But since the PPP was so readily available, everyone got PPP.

Everybody put ERC aside.

And now they weren't eligible because they got PPP.

A major amendment that happened was that President Biden said, hey, if you got PPP, you were still now eligible to get ERC.

And not many people know.

It's just like most of the laws they pass.

They're not educating the American business owner on how to do it.

It's not easy.

It's kind of like filing your taxes.

Like, do you really want to file your own taxes or do you want to trust an expert that knows what they're doing and knows every law and regulation?

So, you know, that's exactly what we did.

We partnered with a firm that's been doing government grants for the last 15 years.

So they're not one of these pop-up firms that are saying, oh, we know how to do ERC.

And they were a solar company, you know, a month.

before that, right?

Like, you know, Josh Fox, who I'm sure you're going to interview here soon,

he's been doing this for 15 years and working with the top 500 companies like in the nation, Uber and Rolex, AP, Miami Heat, the Lakers, you name it.

But then all of a sudden this major change happened and he pivoted and started doing ERC.

So I met with him and he said, hey, Alex, if you have a lot of relationships, if you know a lot of business owners, why don't we collaborate?

Why don't we work together?

And basically you bring people to the table and we all make money.

We help business owners claim what's rightfully theirs.

How much money did you help business owners claim?

So me personally,

we're about seven, 700 million

in seven, eight months that we've been taking this seriously, but now we're averaging probably close to 200 million a month.

Crazy.

It's the most rewarding thing ever, bro.

Like waking up and getting a text from a business owner that's saying,

Alex, we just qualified for, because you have to qualify.

This isn't just every business single business owner.

Like you got to qualify.

There's certain changes in operations and revenue, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

Bottom line handles this and so are the experts.

But being able to help business owners claim what's rightfully theirs has been the most rewarding thing.

We don't charge them anything, bro.

Like, I'll refer a friend of mine.

Very first deal I ever referred.

It was a friend of mine who had 470 employees.

We ended up getting him multiple millions of dollars.

And he calls me like almost in tears.

He's like, Alex,

you saved my business.

We were in deep trouble.

And because of this, now I can continue to operate.

I can pay my employees better.

I can give them bonuses.

And he didn't pay a dime until he had the money in his hands.

Wow.

So there's also zero risk on my end of referring the business owner, right?

Because other firms are charging upfront fees or hourly fees, which is fine.

It's their business model.

But if I were to refer a business and they have a bad experience and they paid money, guess who's in trouble?

I am.

Right.

I look bad.

But since I'm referring them and they're not paying a dime until they have the money in their bank account,

it's a win-win for everybody.

Yeah.

That's so powerful.

And you were just basically able to scale that to 700 million from your network.

100% of my network, dude.

It's funny because people always say, like, how do you know so many businesses?

And I don't.

You know, obviously, the first post I made on Instagram, I said, hey, which one of my followers has the biggest business?

I kind of played with people's egos.

And everybody's like, oh, I've got 50, 70, 100, 500, whatever.

And I definitely got a lot of businesses.

But

if you can build a relationship, you can build a business.

And that's the mentality I went into this where I just started reaching out to everyone in my network, like including you who are involved.

It wasn't me directly telling you, but it was through a business partner that told you.

So it just kind of spreads like wildfire when you build all these high-level relationships and you start to make those phone calls and then they start to network with people.

Or for example, the business that we got millions of dollars, like, hey, why don't you refer me some of of your friends that have businesses?

And it just starts to snowball and snowball and snowball, but we're all in, right?

There's other entrepreneurs that are doing this that are like, oh, but Alex, how are you, you know, helping so many businesses or how are you having that success?

You know, I did it for a month and I didn't get paid right away.

So I kind of.

No, we dropped everything, bro, 100% and went all in with this opportunity.

And that's why I feel like we're having these results.

Yeah, that's incredible.

How did you build a relationship with Steve Will Dewitt?

Because I feel like everyone in their mom is trying to be friends with that guy.

Dude,

it was funny, man.

I saw how big he was getting.

And what year was this?

So this was recent, man.

This was just last year.

Well, beginning of the year.

I started seeing, like, I'm a big person.

Like, what I want to do with all my money, dude, is I want to give it away.

I love gifting people things.

I love giving away money, seeing the person's reaction.

And Steve Will Dewitt was literally that one person, which if you watch his videos, all he does is give, give, give, give, gives cars.

I think he's giving away like 60, 70 cars.

So it's really motivating to me.

So I was like, I've never seen anybody give back to Steve.

So I sent him a DM again, Instagram.

Yeah.

And I was like, hey, brother, I just purchased a jet.

I would like you, you know, you can use it whenever you want, pretty much.

I was like, tell me when you want to use it.

Jet's on me.

Didn't respond.

And I was like, you know what, whatever.

You know, I'd go back and I'd like

what I sent them.

You know the strategy, right?

It bumps it back up in their DM, right?

Like it again or like resend it, whatever.

But I did that for a couple of months.

And then I wake up one morning.

It's a Friday.

Remember, like it's yesterday.

He's like, he's like, Wi-Fi, you serious?

Like, not even like, hi, like, he's really funny.

He's like, you serious?

I'm like, yeah, I'm that serious.

He's, I'm like, when do you need it?

He's like, tomorrow morning.

He's so last minute.

So, you know, I have my pilots, but we're also chartering our jet.

So the jet was like in.

Detroit or something.

So having to cancel all the charters, pay my pilots extra.

I'm like, you need to fly back tonight, pick Steve Will Dew It up and his friends, fly him to New York, wait for him as long as he wants.

I'll pay your hotels, everything, and then fly him back.

So I did that, took him to the UFC fight, flew him back.

I didn't expect anything in return.

Like I genuinely, I told him, like, he's like, what do you want?

Want me to pay you, shout you out?

I was like, nothing, dude.

You do so much for so many people.

I want to take care of you.

Of course, he shouted me out and he was like, oh, Alex, whatever.

Wi-Fi money.

And that's literally how I landed this ERC deal.

Someone saw me on his channel, reached out to me, told me, Alex, I want to introduce you to Josh Fox.

Met Josh Fox

eight figures later, because I'm a big believer in money's energy.

And so many people spend money or give money away with expecting a return, expecting, what am I going to get back to where this was a time where I literally just said, take it.

It's not cheap, dude.

It costs me.

Because then 6ix9ine used it.

Steve will do it used it twice the nelk boys used it twice it's like a hundred and hundred fifty grand and you cost all of that all of it dude wow i'm i'm talking paying the pilots paying the fuel paying i even bought them ten thousand dollars worth of lv i was waiting for them on the plane when they got on like i did like an experience for them because i was like this guy is like he does this for everyone why can't i do it for him

and the universe god whatever you believe in you know rewarded me and and got me this business opportunity that now makes you know tens of millions of dollars that's insane what role does money play in your life

it's i oh you know we talk about this a lot it's it's funny because one of my mentors once told me and he was like alex because i asked him i'm like what level do you like what how much money do you have to make to like truly be happy like this is when i was young and kind of immature and i viewed money as like everything

he was like alex no amount of money is is going to change how happy you are.

In fact, the more money you make, the more sophisticated your problems are going to get.

Money doesn't solve problems.

So,

whoever watching this, if you really think that money is going to solve your problems, it's not.

It's just going to make your problems more sophisticated.

You have to find happiness elsewhere, right?

And, you know, the more money I've made, the more like, oh, now I need a trust structure.

Now I need estate planning for my family.

Now I need this.

I need that every single day.

Calls with lawyers and it's intense, dude.

It doesn't quote unquote make me happier.

What makes me happier and what role does it play is being able to give back, like being able to retire my mom and my dad and give back to my family and

you know, take them on vacations and see their happiness.

That makes me happy because now I know that all the work I'm doing, all the, you know, tough times that I'm going through is paying off and I feel rewarded.

Right.

So money is more a tool to to have freedom to be able, you know, my brand Wi-Fi money really is about being able to travel the world and do whatever you want and and still make money yeah because you can you can make a billion dollars but if you're in the office every single day miserable it's not worth it what's what's the point yeah there's only so much money you could actually spend too yeah I mean the more money you make the more you spend too

uh you had humble beginnings in Ecuador, right?

What was it like growing up there?

So, yeah, it's kind of cool you asked that.

Not many people know that I'm from Quito, Ecuador.

I was born and raised there.

Again, by no means, I always share this with people.

Did I grow up in a bad neighborhood or was from nothing?

You know, my dad worked really hard and gave me a good life, right?

I kind of took it all for granted back in 2017, and that's why I started my business.

But growing in Ecuador, it's very different, right?

The culture is different.

The food's different.

The people are different.

And then this is nothing bad about Ecuador, but the mindset's also different, right?

It's tough.

There's not much entrepreneurship over there.

You don't have this for podcasts.

And let's, you did an awesome networking event the other day I mean maybe now a little bit more obviously I haven't been there in a while but there's not there's a different mentality over there right the mentality over there is is the nine to five I have to work I have to get a job right and I have to sacrifice till 8 p.m.

and then come back to my family and see my daughter for 30 minutes and go to sleep and back to work and it's fine if you're happy doing that but obviously you move here i remember when i was little and i'd come to america for like a week or two and you'd go to Walmart and Target.

Like maybe people that live here, they take that for granted.

But I remember as a kid, I'd walk in there and I'd be like, what is this paradise?

You don't have that.

There's not this consumer, like people are consuming, consuming, consuming like they do in the U.S., which brings opportunity.

So very different.

I'm happy I grew there because I see a different style of culture and life.

It's also very family oriented over there.

So I'm very close to my family.

That's cool.

But obviously, moving here, I moved here when I was 12, 13.

So I'm Americanized.

Okay.

But I still went back a lot for business to Ecuador.

But the American dream is real.

Like, it's kind of cheesy to say.

It is because, you know, that's literally like, for example, what we're doing with the RC.

Like, that's America, dude.

Where else?

What other country do you see business owners being able to get $10,000, $20,000 per employee?

No, in Ecuador, dude, when you fire someone from your company, you have to pay them, I believe it's three or four years' salary

just to be able to fire them.

Whoa.

So nobody fires anybody.

And that's why companies don't really grow.

Because here in America, you fuck up once.

It's like, you're done.

Pack your shit, get out.

Like in Ecuador, it's like, oh, should I fire them?

I'd have to pay them three, four years of salary if I do.

So you see these companies where.

The same lady's been working there for 30, 40 years.

And sometimes it's good, but also bad because that doesn't allow your businesses to grow.

So that's why things in America, business, and the way people consume and buy, it's just so different, man.

That's insane.

What was it like staying in a seven-star hotel?

Because I didn't even know those existed.

It's crazy, man.

It definitely is.

It's the one in Dubai.

It's one of my favorite hotels.

But I kind of took it to the next level because I called in and I know they have the tallest helipad, I believe, in the world.

It's one of the tallest in the world.

It's in the sale.

It's like right off the sale if you've ever seen it.

And every time I travel, I try to go above and beyond with experiences.

Like that's the one thing that money can buy that makes me really happy is experiences.

Like anybody can go and pay a grand, two grand, three grand to go stay in this hotel, right?

But how many people can say that they've landed in a helicopter?

So I called in and I was like, you like my travel, I was like, you need to, my travel agent, I'm like, you need to make this happen.

Like you have to get me to land on the helicopter.

Like I'm not going to the hotel if I don't land in the helicopter.

And it was tough because apparently they don't like, at least now, they only allow like the chics and really high-level people to land.

But I paid an obscene amount of money.

The helicopter picked me up from the airport, flew around Dubai,

and then landing.

I have a video on my Instagram, landing.

It really is one of the top experiences of my life because my girl was with me.

She's like, oh my God, look at that hotel that looks like a sale.

I'm like, yeah, we should go there one day.

And then the helicopter turns around and just goes like James Bonstall, lands on the helipad, had a team of like 50 people waiting for me with like massive roses and flowers and food champagne wow red carpet like those experiences are next level so that's the difference between like a seven star quote unquote to a five four three star hotel where you can do these types of experiences that i mean you really can't do anywhere else in the world that sounds insane how was it in dubai it's awesome man i i love dubai yeah i i really can consider sometimes like should i spend more time there live there you know a lot of people talk about the tax stuff I don't really care about that, but it's just

It's crazy.

The first time I went there, it was almost like I got like a culture shock, right?

Because you see a completely different religion.

And then you go to the mall and everybody's wearing the, similar to this, like the kind of the long, they're called, I think, Kanduras.

Everybody's wearing them.

And back then, it was a while ago, the women were sitting with the women.

The men were sitting with the men, right?

They did not mix at the restaurants.

Wow.

But then you walk out and you see 50, like no joke, 50 white, they're all white Ferraris, just parked there.

And then these guys go, they grab their girl, they pull in their Ferraris, and then the back, their license plate will have a number

saying how important you are.

So the lower the number on your license plate, the more, like, I guess, royal or important.

So one time I saw like a seven, they're like, oh, that guy's a billionaire chic.

You know, then there's like 10,500.

It's like, oh, that's a tax, that's a taxi driver.

But really, like, they they rank how important you are based on your license plate that's interesting uh you also spent a million dollars in under 24 hours in new york city how did you pull that off yeah that was an asshole move

it was it dude it was it was my 30th birthday um

business was was really growing i had just gotten the jet a few months back

and i i told my business partner i'm like you know i was launching my youtube wifi money i'm like we got to do something crazy right and I'm like, let's go to New York.

And it wasn't planned, like, let's go and spend a million dollars and throw it away.

But, you know, I had gotten this watch, which is one of 100.

It's like, you know, 250.

Okay.

We were going to order and buy a custom.

It's like a really, it's called Atelier Ferrari, where you go custom make a Ferrari at the New York

Ferrari.

Like you can put your Instagram, like every single color.

Like you can do whatever you want to the Ferrari.

So we were ordering, it was like a $650,000 Ferrari.

So just with those two things, we were already at like $800,000.

Right.

Then, I ended up buying a Rolex for every single person that came with me.

Like, my dad got one, my brother, a couple of business partners.

We went to LV, spent a good amount, the restaurants, hotels.

And then I was sitting there.

I'm like, dude, I'm pretty sure we spent a million dollars today.

Like, what the hell's wrong with us?

You didn't even plan it.

Like, it wasn't, no, it wasn't like, let's go to New York and spend a million.

But, like, at the end of the night, we all kind of did the numbers, like, dude, we spent a million today.

And then my videographer goes, that's it.

That's the first or second YouTube video, how we spent a million dollars in New York.

And to this day, it's like one of my favorite videos.

And I just, I do that stuff not to show off,

but to really show people how far you can get in a short period of time.

Like 2017, I'm working a nine-to-five.

I'm making maybe $3,500, $4,000 a month, which was great to me back then.

That's why I was in my comfort zone.

To all of a sudden, being able to spend a million dollars or invest.

I mean, this watch is already up 50%, the car's up 30, 40%.

So we invest the money.

It's not threw it away.

But I post that kind of stuff to show people what they can accomplish if they work hard.

That's awesome.

You mentioned you buy designer clothing.

Why do you feel the need to do that?

Because I see some people hate on it.

I don't anymore, dude.

I did a lot in the beginning.

Like, this shirt's like three grand and it's ridiculous, dude.

Like,

now I like to be comfortable.

Like, I really like, I wear sweatpants.

I don't think I've worn a pair of jeans in

two years.

It's just, I don't like them.

They're uncomfortable.

So, now for me, it's more about comfort.

In the beginning, it was more about building a brand.

Right.

Right.

I got a lot of haters, a lot of people, like, you know, even like childhood friends and family friends or family members that are like, Alex, you've changed.

I'm like, why have I changed?

I haven't seen you in a year.

We haven't had a conversation.

I'm like, oh, no, I see what you post on Instagram and all the designer clothes and the cars and the jets.

you're just a different person they they they view that as like you changed for the worst I don't know why but they do but for me it was all about building a brand yeah because what's more exciting does someone want want to see me talk You know, like, hey, give a tip of entrepreneurship.

Like, guys, this is how you're going to grow your Instagram.

Or I just spent a million dollars in New York.

It just attracts more people, more eyeballs.

And then I share the value.

And that's how I land clients.

But you meet me in person and I like to think I'm a humble guy.

I come from an incredible family.

My family's absolutely everything to me.

That's the whole reason I work.

That's my why in everything, right?

I just became an uncle.

Now I have my niece who's just, she's beautiful and seeing her like, it makes me want to go harder, right?

But the designer, the watches, the jet, the cars, it's just all branding, bro.

You know, you see Dan Bilzeri and I've never personally met him.

Maybe you have, but I've heard he's such a nice guy.

But then you go on his Instagram and you're like, oh that guy's the worst all the girls the sex blah blah blah he's just creating a brand everybody has to create a brand if you want to get attention agreed some of the biggest people built their brand off just controversy and attention yeah how do you deal with all the haters on social media do you let it get to you mentally i i mean i have in the past in the especially in the beginning it would really get to me yeah because i you know I've I've always just wanted the best for people and my clients and the people I've worked with.

Like, and especially when you charge people, like this would happen a lot with the Instagram stuff.

Like, if someone pays me like $1,500 to grow their account, and then they'd come back, I'd wake up to a text or like the word scam, right?

And I'd be like, oh my God, like my heart would sink.

And because I genuinely care about people.

And then it's like, you scam me.

The followers are fake.

They just didn't understand the strategy.

They thought that it was going to be 10,000 targeted.

entrepreneur rich people following them and they're getting followers from latin america from a viral giveaway or from, you know, even Kim Kardashian, right?

And those messages were hurt me because now I'm like, did I do something wrong?

Like, but as you grow in business, you become a little stronger to realize like, as long as you're, you're really giving it your all, you're, you're giving the best possible service, you're communicating with people.

Like, yeah, I don't know if you saw my Instagram.

Yesterday I posted I was wearing the Dior glasses and the guy's like, I have to unfollow you.

Those are the gayest glasses I've ever seen.

He's like, those are the gayest glasses I've ever seen.

He's like, I trade SPY in the stock market and I could buy your life and I literally I literally like it made my day because I was like wow that was creative like that was funny so I screenshot it I posted it and everybody is like ha ha ha that's awesome so now it's more funny like you reach a level before where I was just kind of like scared but once you reach a certain level of success like

Google any of those guys, Ty Lopez, Grant Cardone, Gary Vee, they're going to have bad articles about them.

They're going to have people bashing them.

Why?

Because they're just a public figure.

Now, do I want to continue down that road and become this massive public figure?

No.

When ERC is done and I've made a couple hundred million, I'm probably going to delete my Instagram.

Really?

Yeah, I just don't, off the map, bro.

Whoa.

It was my purpose.

I reached my purpose.

I impacted people.

I helped people.

And I just don't care for people to know my business anymore.

Like every single day, I'm becoming more private.

People have about two more years to enjoy Wi-Fi money and all the craziness I do.

And I'm probably going to go off the, I'm I mean, maybe I'm exaggerating on deleting it, but maybe make it private or just make it more for my personal friends.

Because obviously, you start posting the big money.

Now, now it's scary, right?

Now you can people, people want to do harm.

Oh, yeah.

All those big crypto guys, they got people after them.

Four of them ended up dead last year.

Oh my God, dude.

Like, and you know, maybe some of them do scam and maybe some of them do bad things.

Like, I don't.

I come from a good family.

Like, the last thing I want is for my girl to be in trouble or my mom, my family.

it's it's shitty but that's just how people are you know they see your success and they're like how can i take that success away oh yeah it definitely makes you a target it's a double-edged sword are you do you think you'll retire completely from business after you are see or are you gonna keep going i i think it's i think it's impossible to fully retire right you know i i'm gonna retire in the sense where i'm gonna reach a number invested to where

my kids, my kids' kids, and my kids' kids' kids never have to work again, right?

Or at least they're going to be set up.

But

I'm just going to focus on things that I personally enjoy, right?

This ERC thing has been a blessing because, again, we've got what, 35,000 affiliates that reach out to me every single day telling me, Alex, thank you, man.

I just like a teacher in tears who made $50,000 her first week with us.

And she was crying saying, I made $30,000 a year in my nine-to-five.

Wow.

So in some way, shape, or form, I want to continue helping people because it's so rewarding.

I want to, we're working on something big in real estate, which we're going to launch pretty soon.

So that's another kind of, I call it passion project that we have that I want to grow.

But as far as like dealing Instagram followers and social media and intensely networking, like, dude, the one thing I love in life is travel.

Right.

So I just want to travel seven, eight months of the year.

I've been to 94, 95 countries.

So I want to see hopefully the rest of the world.

There's this Antarctica trip that I want to do where you land on a Gulf Stream in Antarctica.

Wow.

So that's a trip I've been.

Yeah.

So right now I can't do that just because I'm so incredibly busy.

Yeah.

But sooner or later.

God's sake, man.

Let's end it on that note.

So you've been in 95 countries.

What's your top five?

Top five.

Wow, that's a tough question.

It doesn't have to be an organization.

Yeah, but the very first ones that come to mind is Paris.

like France in itself, right?

But Paris is an incredible city, man.

Like, Like, I've been there

five times in the last two years.

The hotels are insane.

The atmosphere, just how you feel.

People everywhere just sitting in little cafes, having drinks.

Like, the culture there is incredible.

Italy, right?

You got to go with Italy.

You know, same.

The food, the, you know, there's like every, you go to North Italy, it's different than South Italy.

You go to Capri, you go to islands, like, it's incredible.

Greece.

I love Greece.

Greece, bro.

I mean, you can't, can't,

the food, again, but you can't go wrong with the views, the hotels.

It's just, again, it's different.

It's very, there's like, at least in Santorini, you're not like in highways, cars, you're walking everywhere.

It's a different type.

That was actually a trip I did.

I did Paris.

I did.

Greece and then Egypt.

Egypt is probably number one for me

from like experience-wise.

Like when you go to the pyramids, it's the craziest thing you've ever seen.

Like I would, I would stand in front of the pyramid, I look up, I'd look to the right, left, and you can't see the end of the pyramid.

Like, it's that big.

And then you think, like,

how the hell was this built?

Yeah, so many years ago, right?

So,

and then you're driving like on a, on a highway, right?

What they call a highway, and there's like a camel crossing, and horses, and people just playing cards, like drinking.

Like, it's crazy, dude.

It's kind of like a culture shock, like I mentioned.

And then also, like, you know, I just went to Singapore is just next level.

I say Singapore and Dubai are probably the last two, but Singapore because you have more of like an Asia, you know, Asian feel rather than Dubai.

And I was just there and it's just, again, the buildings, the

everything, the infrastructure is insane, bro.

That's a solid list, bro.

Can't argue anything on that.

Where can people find you?

And do you have any closing thoughts?

Yeah, I mean, social media, Instagram.

If you look up Wi-Fi Money on Instagram, I'll come up.

Probably one of the only Wi-Fi money verified.

It's A.

Meller is actually my handle, but look it up as Wi-Fi Money or Wi-Fi Money on YouTube.

And if you have not looked into working with Sean or myself on this ERC program, you're missing out.

It's completely free.

I don't know if you've ever had a free offer before.

I've never had a free offer ever.

This is completely free and it can pay high ticket commissions.

I've never in my life seen something like this ever, right?

Where you can make make 50, 100, $200,000 by referring people, by helping people, helping other affiliates, helping business owners.

So do yourself a favor.

Reach out to Sean.

Reach out to me.

Let's work together and let's crush it, bro.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

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Dude, it's been a pleasure.

Thanks for coming on.

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