Kevin Sorbo: Kevin Sorbo on Hollywood cancel culture and independent filmmaking | DSH #1526

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Kevin Sorbo (Hercules, Andromeda) sits down to talk life after Hollywood, why he pivoted to independent, family-friendly films, and how politics and “cancel culture” shaped that journey. He shares candid takes on taxes and term limits, social media bans, AI in film, and why he thinks audiences are craving classic storytelling over agenda-driven blockbusters. We also get personal: moving from California to Florida after wildfires, golfing stories with presidents, and what it’s really like building movies outside the studio system.

Sorbo also previews new projects (features + docs), upcoming Greece and Norway trips, and why he believes optimism, work ethic, and faith still win. Whether you agree with him or not, it’s a frank conversation about entertainment, free speech, and the business realities of making movies today—plus a few unbeatable Hercules/Andromeda throwbacks.

CHAPTERS:

00:00 - Intro

00:30 - Kevin's Projects

01:55 - Cancel Culture Discussion

05:06 - AI Job Displacement

07:00 - Therasage Overview

08:25 - Political Perspectives

09:41 - Apathy in Society

10:02 - Kevin's Awakening

13:38 - Running for Office?

14:58 - Kevin's Move to Florida

17:46 - Upcoming Travel Plans

22:50 - Ryan Gosling Insights

25:50 - Kevin’s Son’s Book Release

26:27 - Hollywood Character Changes

27:59 - Anger and Awareness

29:58 - Anonymous Social Media

33:36 - Michelle Obama Influence

37:08 - Bill Clinton Legacy

38:56 - Presidential Golf Highlights

41:18 - Connecting with Kevin

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Yeah, and that's not what your country can do for you.

Well,

you know, right now, all the Democrats want total control, cradle to grave, of all our lives.

They just want to find more ways to tax you.

I still laugh at the inheritance tax.

So, if you worked all your life, you pay taxes on all that money for 50 years.

You pass away, you can't give that to your kids and your grandkids.

You've got to give half of it or more to the government.

Why?

Okay, guys, Kevin Sorbo here today.

Busy man working on four movies right now.

No, four movies are done and they can.

Wow.

Not only when they're coming out.

I mean, they're done.

And, you know, the thing is, the independent world, you can't, you don't have the kind of budget Hollywood does, but they do $300 million movies and they do $100 million promotion where I do movies in the $2 to $3 million range.

So a lot of it relies on just a lot of PR, like talking to people like you and word of mouth from the general public out there.

And that's how to get it going.

Three documentaries done as well.

I'll be out this year.

And I just finished a movie.

I finished two movies this year that don't count for what I just talked about.

Just did a

movie called Christmas Eve.

And it's going to be coming out this year.

They're editing fast on it.

It deals with stories that happen on Christmas Eve at different parts of

century, decade, or whatever.

Mine was a World War I story.

So it's like a 20-minute short story, but it's going to be like five stories.

Interesting.

And then I just finished a sci-fi movie.

I just flew in from Vancouver.

And the reason I'm here is my mom suffered a stroke.

So I'm here visiting her.

Yeah, it sucks, but she's getting up there.

But she's fighting.

She's still doing okay.

And then I got a golf movie I'm shooting here in July with Dean Kane, who played Superman on TV directing it.

And Dean lives here.

He lives on the same course I lived on, a Rio Seiko golf course out there.

Okay.

Yeah, there's a lot of good golf courses out there.

There's a lot of good golf courses out here.

Was that transition from Hollywood to independent film really tough?

Well, it was kind of forced on me.

I got booted out about 12 years ago.

I'm the first canceled culture victim in Hollywood for

posting the truth on Facebook and Twitter.

My manager and agent said, we can't work with you anymore.

The studios don't want to work with you because apparently being a conservative in Hollywood is like being, yeah, it's kryptonite to them, apparently.

So, which is sad to me.

And

I don't harbor the kind of anger.

To somebody who has a different point of view than I do.

I'm fine with that.

That's fine.

Was it a specific post or just accumulation of the years?

No, I think it was just accumulation of the years.

And I laughed at it when they told me because I was at ICM for years and, you know, one of the bigger agents out there.

And I said, but I've always been conservative.

You know that.

Yeah, but things are changing in Hollywood.

And as you know, the last decade has gone insane.

Look at the latest Disney movie.

It's going to lose.

That woke Snow White movie is going to lose probably $300 million.

They might be hitting you up soon if it keeps going like that.

Oh, my gosh.

Well, it's insane what they keep pushing this stuff on people.

And it's like, guys, enough is enough.

You can mix up your movies a little bit and put movies in there that families want to go to at the same time.

Why just push these agendas all the time but uh i think hollywood's starting to wake up i think it's a tipping point happening now which is good i feel like a lot of recent hollywood movies are so predictable the script writing doesn't seem to be what it used to be well you know i i look i like these high tech a lot of you know visual effect stuff they're fun avengers and you know whatever all that kind of stuff but they're the same story it's like a roller coaster ride and i fell in love with acting not because of that i fell in love with acting when they had good scripts dealing with characters maybe i could relate to and maybe there was good storylines that kept you you motivated.

So I do the movies that Hollywood used to do movies that have love and hope and faith and love and relapse, you know, laughter.

And it's just people want movies that they can go, wow, that was just a good movie instead of walking out, wow, a great visual effect.

If you look at every one of these Avenger movies, I mean, they take down about eight large buildings in New York City.

I go, that's two million people who just died.

No one's talking about that.

I always think that, you know, it's like, there's a, but, but they saved the world, you know, he's like, okay.

Yeah, that was so funny.

I rarely go to the theaters now, man.

When I was a kid, I used to love going every weekend yeah that was one of my favorite members when i moved out to la i i mean i fell in love with acting as a young kid but um for me it was paul newman and robert redford movies those are the guys that they were cool to me that i want to do movies like that but when i moved to la i would go four or five days a week damn all the time just go but you know i lived in santa monica and most of you know you go to the studio city or you go to beverly hills or hollywood to do all the castings whether it was commercial or reading for a movie or tv show and for me 16 miles in la is an hour and a half drive one way.

You're moving to miles an hour if you're lucky.

So I would have a casting at 10, then not one until two.

So I would, I'm not going to drive back home.

I'm going to go have lunch, go see a movie, and then, you know, go hit another casting.

Yeah.

Times have changed, man.

My generation's just watching Netflix and streaming is the main thing now, right?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, and well, that, you know, there's...

Like Netflix kind of in Amazon are ruling the day.

They just don't pay the residuals as well as they used to.

And that's kind of sucks for actors.

But, you know, everybody wants to work.

So I think a lot of actors are taking huge cuts from what their normal salaries would be.

And other actors work for nothing just to get their careers going.

And I understand that.

How worried are you about AI replacing a lot of jobs in your crazy?

It's crazy to think that they can put me in a movie with Marilyn Monroe and John Wayne.

It's kind of smart.

But

I'm not a tech guy at all.

I mean, I got boys 23 and 21.

And if I got a problem with my computer, they come in and I go, duh, dad.

So easy, you know.

But I grew up when I was in school, in high school and junior high school, and we had to call up, put the phone on a little holder, wait about an hour and a half or hopefully to connect.

Damn.

But it was today

it's taking over everything.

I mean, we have more social media than ever now, but we're less connected now because of it.

I think.

Oh, 100%.

People are locked into that.

Oh, I have this many friends.

They're not your friends.

You want people to

interject and all kinds of stuff like that.

But Facebook took me down for posting the truth.

Everything I said that they said was

conspiracy theories or misinformation.

Always been proven true now.

Everything I said was the truth.

Do I get my 4 million followers back from Zuckerberg and his wissey minions?

No.

They haven't reinstated you?

No, not at all.

Not at all.

I'm trying to get back on.

Well, Zuck's on the right now, though.

Well, because Trump's in office.

Yeah.

So all of a sudden, he does a 180.

I don't trust that guy.

I think he's a very brilliant man.

There's no question about it.

But he's, if, if, if Kamala had won, he'd be kissing up on her butt, too.

100%.

We got to get you in touch with Dana then.

Dana's on their board now.

Oh, really?

Dana White.

Yeah, he's on the board of Meta.

Strategic hire by him.

I would, I mean, look, I'd love to get back at my Facebook followers, but I mean, they're been gone for three and a half years now.

Damn.

Was it an anti-vax post?

Oh, a number of those.

Yeah.

Well, I said, where's the proof?

I would post videos of Fauci.

uh saying in 2017 that oh you need eight to ten years to test these vaccines out because you don't know you got to do because there's always going to be potential side effects and they rushed this thing out what nine months a year or something they made all the actors get them all the directors the tri-light from therisage is no joke medical grade red and near infrared light with three frequencies per light deep healing real results and totally portable it's legit photo biomodulation tech in a flexible on body panel this is the tri-light from therisage and it's next level red light therapy it's got 118 high-powered polychromatic lights each delivering three healing frequencies red and near infrared from 580 to 980 nanometers it's sleek portable and honestly i don't go anywhere without it and look look what happened to so many people.

Look how many people died.

Terrible.

But let's not talk about that.

But we all know it now.

Everything that I was posting and many other people are posting that got taken down.

It's like, oh,

it's true now.

That conspiracy theory has to take six months to become truth.

I guess the one good thing about that is it made people look into all the other vaccines, too.

Yeah.

And now there's like 100 vaccines they give kids by the time they turn 18.

It's insane.

It's nuts.

It's crazy.

When you were growing up, you probably got like three.

They were like, I think six or seven or something like that, you know?

But if you look at, I mean, i i can't watch tv anymore because two out of every three commercials there's more drug commercials and listing off the 75 side effects as quickly as the announcer can talk so yeah it's uh it's it's unbelievable what we're turned into but there's money in that you know ronald reagan one of the things he did was make them not you know you can't go after them anymore you can't sue them uh for anything so uh what what they say about covet that we got to wait 75 years to find out the results well we'll all be dead yeah

so it's were you uh conservative your whole life growing up too i was actually with 1980 was the first time I could vote.

I voted for Ronald Reagan.

Wow.

And, you know, my parents kind of flipped out.

They were Walter Mondale, Hubert Humphrey Democrats at that time.

But I said, you know, you can look at those guys, Mondale and Humphrey today.

They would be centrists.

And if you look at JFK, JFK, I mean, I think Bill Maher is a JFK Democrat.

That's why you see Bill Maher opening up now and being more honest about how the insanity of the woke of the left is.

I mean, he's attacking the left as much as he's attacking the right.

JFK, look at his 1960 inauguration speech and tell me one Democrat.

Heck, most of the Republicans don't talk that way.

You know, it's on his gravestone where he said, ask not what the government can do for you, but what you can do, you know, for your country.

Yeah.

And that's not what your country can do for you.

Well,

you know, right now, all the Democrats want total control, cradle to grave, of all our lives.

They just want to find more ways to tax you.

I still laugh at the inheritance tax.

So you've worked all your life.

You paid taxes and all that money for 50 years.

You pass away.

You can't give that to your kids and your grandkids.

You've got to give half of it or more to the government.

Why?

They just find different ways to rip you off constantly.

It's amazing to me.

And people, we have a lot of sheep and we have a lot of people who are uneducated and ignorant about the whole thing.

And they just go, oh,

what can we do?

And I think apathy is the biggest killer in this country right now.

So many taxes, man.

Property tax.

Why is that a thing?

Yeah.

And

if you do find gold and silver or oil on your property, it's not yours.

It's a government's.

Really?

Yeah, yeah.

I didn't know that.

Oh, yeah.

They own everything below you.

No way.

And then they want to.

You don't even own the land at that point.

You don't even own it.

Yeah.

You think you own your house.

You think you own the land, but no, you don't.

Wow.

That is mind-blowing, man.

When did you start waking up to all this?

Pretty young, actually.

I started looking.

I think, you know, high school years and stuff, watching Jimmy Carter and stuff, I was like, oh, my gosh.

I don't know, guys.

I think this guy's not a good president.

I think he's a bright man, but I think that,

I mean, obviously he didn't get re-elected.

And Reagan defeated him, you know, pretty easily.

So to me, it's like, okay.

I went the other way.

My parents were shocked.

And I said, look, I think this Carter's going to go down is the worst president we've ever had.

And I was completely right until we had Obama and Biden.

Biden might be.

Oh, Biden might.

Biden's in.

I started feeling sorry for Biden.

I mean, he has stage five cancer.

I did.

Even before that, I said, this guy's definitely, we all knew something was going on.

And you got this 90% of the mainstream media or more, you know, protecting this guy and saying, no, he's never been, you know, mourning Joe.

So I've never seen a more sharpener than his title.

And you know, behind closed doors, they're going, how much longer can we, you know, just keep saying this stuff?

We know it's not true.

When When he did that debate, I was surprised that people were shocked at his performance.

Yeah.

And he walked on stage totally jacked up.

You know, they put B12 into him.

They gave him shots just to wake him up as much as possible.

They had earpieces trying to feed him dialogue.

And he still just sucked.

That first debate he had or the second debate he had with Trump back in 2020, I got angry at Trump by saying, quit interrupting him.

Half a sentence and he interrupted him.

Let the guy talk.

Let people see this guy can't put two sentences together.

Yeah, we'll see who they put up there in 28.

Maybe News.

But he won the election anyway.

But I think it was a blessing in disguise because it woke up a lot of people that were down the middle or even liberal and not far, far left that said, wow, look what he's doing to the country.

Yeah.

No, there's no problem with the border.

Don't worry about this.

I mean, how many people do we let in this country?

15, 20 million?

I mean, there's so many different numbers flowing up.

We have no idea.

Crazy.

Yeah.

Super crazy.

Yeah.

I don't know who they're going to put up in 28.

They're saying AOC, Newsome.

Put up AOC.

Here's a bartender that was broke and all of a sudden she's worth, she's worth like $20 or $30 million now.

How do you get to that in six years?

That's a lot of money.

And $140,000 or $150,000 a year.

How do you get to that?

No insider trading, I think.

But Plosi's worth $200 million.

And why don't we get the vote on term limits?

If the president gets eight years, nobody should get more than eight years.

Really?

I'm seriously.

He can't wipe them all out right now, but they should all leave in blocks.

Maybe 25% are replaced.

If they don't get re-elected for another term, eight years is the most you get period.

Why can't we get that?

Yeah.

Why can't we make them go back after 48 years back to their communities, back to delegates and say, well, did I do a good job?

Well, not really.

Look at this.

Look what's going on in our community right now.

Because they don't know.

They live in their bubble just like Hollywood lives in its bubble.

Once they get the funding, they don't seem to ever get out of position.

No.

No.

Bernie's been there for how long.

Yeah.

And why are they mad?

Why is the left mad that we're showing how much tax money is being wasted by the government?

We knew they wasted our dollars.

We can spend our money better than they can.

But, you know, what was the one thing that made me laugh?

$50 million to Gaza for condoms?

Yeah.

There's been a few wild ones like Tom.

I said, okay, that's interesting.

I don't understand how you could defend that.

Like, if we're just being totally objective.

Yeah.

How do you defend that?

I don't know.

I have no idea.

And they just attack Elon.

They attack Tesla.

Yeah.

So you loved him before he said, I mean, look, they loved Trump.

Be on Oprah's show.

Be on The View.

They all loved him on the left.

And then we said, you know what, I'm going to run for governor.

I mean, I'm going to run for office here in 2015 for the president

on the right.

And they just flipped out.

Crazy.

They've been attacking him for 10 years, nonstop.

Yeah.

Would you ever run for anything political?

I was asked by a group of conservative actors in L.A.

to come back and run against Newsome.

I said, guys, I have

zero interest in moving back to California.

And zero interest.

I'm political, but

I wouldn't want that job.

I got called by the Republican Party of Minneapolis.

I'm from Minnesota, to run against Waltz just like three months ago.

And I said, yeah, not interested.

Not interested living in five months of winter again.

I want to be in a state where I can golf every day if I want to.

Yeah, that makes sense.

I'd love to see you debate Newsome.

That'd be a good one.

I think it'd be fun.

Look, I think he's a bright guy, but he's left.

He's dancing.

He's, you know, I mean, the stuff he did, the stuff he did to the state in terms of the fire that just came through recently.

We have fires all the time.

I lived through multiple fires the time I was in L.A.

But we got lucky a number of times.

We had one fire that came through, burnt down half the homes of the neighborhood, came from three feet of my backyard, went around my house.

Holy crap.

Why?

I don't know.

The house next to me, down to the ground.

The house next to him stayed.

House next to that guy.

That guy that lived two hours from me, two homes on either side went down to the ground.

His house stayed.

That must be God or something.

Yeah, it's got to be something because it was pretty amazing.

Damn, that's nuts.

Yeah, that's what made us move.

Oh, the fire.

Well, we were ready to leave.

I've shot over 90 movies

since I had Hercules seven years and I did.

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Andromeda, which is Gene Roddenberry's sci-fi show for five years.

So from 1993, 2005, I was out of America for 10 months because I was in New Zealand.

Then I was in Canada with Andromeda for five years.

So

when I got back home, every movie I booked shot in Texas or further east, nothing was shooting in California.

And I looked at my wife and I said, why are we dealing with the traffic in Texas?

There's no reason.

You know, she's got family in Florida.

We always went out there and vacation.

We always loved it.

So we put the for-sale sign.

This is in 2018.

The fires came through and our house survived.

A guy that lost his house about three blocks down from me saw the for-sale sign.

He shows up at the house and he says, look, they went through the house.

I got two teenage kids.

He said, we love the house.

We want to rebuild where we live, though.

I know you want to sell, but our insurance company will pay you triple your mortgage for the next two years while we rebuild.

Wow.

Triple.

What an awful lot.

I look at my wife and I said, we're moving to Florida.

Within a year, they ended up buying the house.

Nice.

Because their house, even after a year, all they had was the area was cleared out.

They sell them begun.

So, you know, hundreds of homes burnt down.

So it's just taking a long time to get things going for people.

Look at this last fire through Pacific Palisades.

No one got money.

Well, there's no water.

California, it'll rain really hard for a couple months, usually November, December, January, somewhere in there.

With all the hills, they could have built so many reservoirs.

They could have built these things, caught the rain.

They just let it go into the Santa Monica Bay.

And they had no water in Newsom.

I mean, give me a break.

I mean, for decades, they've been talking about building these things and don't do.

I don't,

you know, for this, when most of the Palisades is liberal and they lost all their homes and they still not going to blame Newsome for it.

They'll blame Trump somehow.

They also got billions to solve homelessness out there.

It doesn't get better.

It doesn't get worse.

Every year.

It got worse.

They got $5 billion, I think.

It's unbelievable.

Crazy.

So, yeah, it just keeps those people employed in jobs that are useless and wasteful of our money.

Yeah.

Well, at least you got good timing in Florida.

I'm sure your house is up a lot of money.

Oh, my gosh.

It's gone insane.

You're in Miami area?

It's doubled.

No, we're about two hours north.

We're in an area called Wellington.

It's horse country.

We wanted space.

So we got five acres.

Wow.

Yeah, it's great.

That's awesome.

It's great.

Literally, you go through the gate and you feel like it's Oklahoma with palm trees.

Damn.

Most people have 10 acres and they got horses.

I didn't want a horse.

A lot of maintenance.

Too much work.

But we got neighbors now.

We've made good friends and a lot of people teach riding lessons.

So my kids have been doing that.

And,

you know, I've shot Western, so I like riding horses too.

So we'll see.

We'll see what happens.

But we love where we're at right now.

And I don't think we're going to leave anytime soon.

I love it.

You got some upcoming trips coming up, Greece and Norway, right?

But dude, I got the Norway trip was with Brent Bozell, and that is the MRC, the Media Research Center.

And what they do is

they look at all media on both sides of the political aisle and they see, is it fair and balanced?

Well, on the left, it literally is 90% just negative towards anybody on the right.

Wow.

And then the other 10% is they'll talk,

they'll have right-wing people come on their shows, like coming on yours.

And they say, hey, he's right-wing or not, not a far left or whatever.

So in this trip, it's going to be, we did it last year through the Caribbean.

This year, we're going to do it through Norway, which I'm excited because I'm taking my kids in this one because I'm Norwegian, second generation.

Nice.

And I haven't been back there in years.

And so it's going to be a cruise, a seven-day cruise there.

People, they go to mrc.org.

They can go check it out.

They can join us.

There's still room on the boat, but we've got some great speakers that are going to be there.

Lieutenant Colonel Alan West is going to be there.

Dana Lash is going to be there.

Brent Bozell's all going to be speaking.

Joe Concha from Fox News is going to be there.

So if you want to, you know, come and hang out, it's pretty fun.

You'll meet everybody, and it's going to be a great trip.

And the Greece trip my wife and I usually take a group of people every year to Israel and we call it walk in footsteps of Jesus this one's walk in footsteps apostle Paul who was spent a lot of his life after Jesus was crucified in Greece so it's gonna be a 12-day trip nice September 17th through 29th and that one's pretty much sold out I think we got four four maybe five places still open if people want to join us it's gonna be a great trip you'll have a blast and the last day of course we're going to Mount Olympus because I was Hercules for 70 years

Full circle, right?

We're going to Mount Olympus.

And we'll go to the site of the battle that inspired the 300 movie.

Oh.

So we're going to that exact same location.

One of the best movies of all time.

It was pretty cool.

Greece is my favorite country.

It's awesome.

It's so beautiful.

I went there and I went to the Olympics there.

I shot a movie in Mykonos.

They roll up the red carpet because all the Hercules thing.

Wow.

And it was actually a Hercules Cafe on the island of Mykonos.

And I shot a comedy there with an Australian

film team.

It was a lot of fun.

Are they going to do a Hercules remake anytime soon?

If they do, I'd be curious what they would do with it.

I mean, I'm obviously too old to do it now, but they could age me up more and I could play Zeus.

I'd love to do it.

Let's go.

You know, they redo stuff all the time.

I'm actually surprised they haven't done something like that.

Because it really started, I think it started everything that led to all the action movies that are going on right now.

Because at the time, there was nothing like that on TV.

And by season three, of Hercules, we became the most watched TV show in the world in 176 countries.

Holy crap.

And as Hollywood does, they they copy everything that's successful.

So by our season three, they decided, a time slot open, we spun off a female type Hercules show called Xena Warrior Princess.

And that same year, though, all the other studios came out with Conan, Robin Hood, Sinbad,

Beastmaster, Sheena.

There's another action woman.

So all these other shows are trying to copy us, but we were the original, so we kicked their butts.

So we were still number one at the end of season seven, but I got an offer to do do

a show that Gene Roddenberry, who created the original

Star Trek series, and

he wrote in 1969 a, not really a sequel, because this one, my show, Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda was even hundreds of years in the future beyond that.

So my captain, Captain Dylan Hunt, was the first captain after Captain Kirk, which was kind of cool.

I'm a big fan of the original series.

So when Majel Roddenberry, his widow, called me up and said, during season seven of Hercules, said, you know, if my husband is still alive, Rod Roddenberry, I'm Rod Roddenberry, Gene Roddenberry.

His son is Rod, I think, Rod Roddenberry.

And he said,

if she was still alive, I think he'd want you to play this role.

And I told her, I said, if you're offering me a parole to play in one of Gene Roddenberry's shows, I said, you don't have to, just where do I sign

right now?

You left the number one show for that.

Yeah.

One more thing I wanted to say again, because a lot of people forget this show.

Season five on Hercules, we spun of young Hercules.

A lot of people forget that show.

It only lasted two seasons.

And the young actor that played me as a teenager, the show got canceled.

He called me up.

He said, dude, they cancel the show.

And I said, yeah, I know.

I found out.

He took him out.

We were all living in New Zealand at that time.

I lived there for 10 months, a year, each year for seven years.

And beautiful country is great.

And I took this act, this young actor, out.

I said, you're a really good actor.

You're going to do fine.

His name was Ryan Gosling.

No way.

That's where Ryan got to start.

Why?

Yeah.

I tell people, go online and look at Ryan Gosling photos as young Hercules.

And you see this scrawny, skinny little kid.

And now he's a big stud, of course.

And now his career has just exploded.

So, Ryan, if you're out there, why don't I get one of your roles in one of your movies, dude?

He's on the director or something.

He's a damn good actor.

He's really good.

And, you know, God bless him.

He's great, great movies.

Did you watch Sinners yet?

Have not seen that one yet.

It was a good movie.

I saw Fall Guy, one of them, Fall Guy.

I enjoyed Fall Guy.

Fall Guy, yeah.

Stunt movie.

It was pretty good.

They feel like they're doing some new things

that aren't in the mainstream Hollywood.

But yeah, well,

look, they've got to change.

I mean, Amazon and Netflix made the studios change.

Technology is making everybody change.

And I mean, I still like going to movie theaters, but like you, I maybe only go one or two a year.

The only two I want to see this whole year now.

One I want to take,

I want to see the

new Tom Cruise movie.

The latest one.

Oh,

I'm a fan of the workhead.

I'm not a the last one, but yeah.

Yeah, I know.

Mission of Basel.

Well,

it did like, what, $250 million?

Yeah.

Memorial weekend opening?

Pretty amazing.

You know what?

I think the guy, I like his stance.

He stays pretty,

I'm sure he's political, but he stays kind of apolitical in a way.

But he's a smart guy.

He's a damn good actor.

And I did most of my own stunts on Hercules, so I appreciate he has most of his own stunts.

He's broken some bones.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

I've had a few.

Oh, yeah.

I've had a few number of things.

I've broken fingers and cuts and bruises and sprains and stuff like that.

But to to me, I was a jock.

I was a football, basketball guy growing up, all through school and everything.

And to me, and I had stunt guys that made me look good.

I had amazing stunt guys.

Ben Cook, one of our, he was 19 years old in the series started.

He was 26 by the time it ended.

One of our stunt guys went on to become Daniel Craig's stunt double in all the James Bond movies.

Wow.

I think he won stuntman of the year twice.

They were, you know, Peter Jackson used to come on the set a lot to see how the crew was developing because

they didn't have infrastructure in New Zealand.

I mean, we just gave it to him with three shows employing about 700 people on both sides of the camera.

Well, more than that, on the other, in front of the camera, because all the extras and everything.

Team's that big.

It was, well, heck, when we,

he took most of my crew to Lord of the Rings.

And they all went on to win Academy Awards.

I mean, the Wedder Group that won for all the creatures I created, they did all the creatures on Hercules.

And Nyla Dixon, who's an amazing

wardrobe

artist, she won,

I think she was nominated for two the same year she did tom cruise's movie the last samurai and then of course lord of the rings and she won for lord of the rings yeah

and peter jackson i remember

i was there at the last the last oscar run for the third uh lord of the rings he said you know it was your shows that really started and built the industry in new zealand i said that's a nice compliment peter but you didn't give me one freaking roll on lord of the rings so So take that, Peter.

But talented group of people in that small country.

It's only 5 million people in the whole country.

I didn't know they were making movies like that out there.

Yeah.

New Zealand.

Oh, there's my son calling right there.

Oh, yeah?

Yeah.

Yeah.

New Zealand's beautiful.

I've been there too.

My son, I can't talk to you right now.

I'm here right now on the podcast you helped set up for me.

We'll talk later.

How do you get that in there?

Give him a plug.

That's Brayden Sorbo.

You should follow him.

You got a good relationship with your kids.

Bray could.

That's cool.

Brayden's great.

His second book just came out.

You should have mine.

Yeah.

He wrote a book about it.

It's called Embracing Masculinity.

And it's about

the pushdown that Hollywood and the mainstream media wants to do in

emasculating men in America.

And it's pretty cool.

His first book, he came out three years ago.

His initials are B.S., Brayden Sorbook.

It's The BS Guide to Politics for Young Kids.

I love it.

So he does a lot of work with Charlie Kirk in Turning Point USA, and he's a very upspoken kid.

He'd be a good guest for you guys.

Love to have him on.

Yeah, masculinity.

That's probably why they haven't brought Hercules back.

He's too toxic.

He's too toxic.

They probably make him a transgender.

I don't know.

Welcome to Hollywood.

Harry Harry Potter's coming back.

Hermione is black.

It's like, it's crazy.

They want to rewrite everything, which is really, then come up with a different idea.

Do something like it, but come up with something original instead of changing things because you piss off the fans more than anything else.

I could care less.

I'm not going to go see the movie anyway.

It's a show, but yeah.

Even Snape, I think, is black.

I mean,

crazy.

It's weird.

Yeah, it's weird because it just, to me, I don't care where you stand religiously, what color your skin is.

I could care less.

If you're the best person I think that for the job that I'm doing, then I'm going to hire you.

It's as simple as agree.

But they made those standards before they hired the actor.

I know.

So that's my point.

Well, now you cannot get an Oscar or a Golden Globe unless you hire along these guidelines they have right now.

Wow.

That means look at all the decades of films that would never, that have won Oscars.

In today's world, they wouldn't have won Oscars because they didn't cover that.

I can't remember.

It was an interview I saw for this year's Con Film Festival, and it was about Denmark in the 13 or 1400s and the actor was there I can't remember his name he's a great actor I've seen him in it before and I think the director was there and one writer said you had no people of color and they looked at each other and they said this is a movie about 14th century Denmark I'm sorry

I'm sorry that they were white then you know that's there weren't a lot of people There weren't a lot of people of color and roots either.

It was all black people.

So I was like, I don't get offended by that.

It's the weirdest thing that people wake up, what a horrible way to live your life.

They wake up every day to be angry.

What am I going to be pissed off about today?

What a horrible way.

I mean, I get people, I'm sure half of them are just robots that are going after me on Twitter, but they, it's like they wait to pounce on me.

I can say it's a beautiful day.

I hope you die.

You know,

I'm going, I would never follow people that I disagree with.

I just don't.

I don't have the time to look at responses anyway.

I just hear from my kids what people say.

And And I'm going,

what a pathetic and sad existence.

I feel sad for these people that every day they wake up, they hate themselves so much.

They hate their lives.

They hate who they are.

They hate that they don't have a relationship or they hate the relationship they're in.

They hate the job.

They probably don't have a job.

They're probably being paid by George Soros and collecting tax dollars from you and me.

And I'm going, to live that way every single day?

I mean,

wow.

I mean,

how unhealthy that has to be for your body.

Yeah.

No, they even have your post notifications on.

So as soon as you post, that's why they comment.

Yeah.

Crazy.

I left one up there at the very top of my, on my ex-feed.

Follow me on K-Sorbs, K-S-R-B-S.

My buddy's call me Sorbs.

And I said, I didn't leave Hollywood because it blacklisted me.

I left Hollywood because it's filled with pedophiles.

Yeah.

That one got a lot of engagement.

They got a lot of engagement.

But I put out things just to me, it's like a joke.

It's like when Trump says, we're going to make Canada a state.

That's not going to happen.

Yeah.

But in Canada, they got, they all went crazy.

And you go, God, it's so easy to trigger people.

It's so easy.

Yeah.

But I think it stems from them hating who they are and hating their existence.

And that's sad to me.

It's sad.

These people are lonely, lonely, lonely people.

I see a lot of it on X specifically.

Oh, my gosh, yeah.

X might be the worst.

Yeah.

I wonder why.

Because I get a lot of posts.

You don't have to post what?

Positive comments on Instagram, but X is like the opposite.

Sure.

It's all hate.

Yeah.

I don't know why.

They got nothing better to do with their time.

I think a lot of the accounts are anonymous too yeah like there's no identity behind it yeah so it's just and it's i don't know it's it's it's it's a weird angry world out there and um

if you want to live your life that way then you know i'll i'll pray you find a better way to find a better better better happy life but uh that's just that's just gonna bring ulcers and cancers and it just it's it's not it can't do anything to help you as an individual it can't that stuff manifests into disease sure it does of course it does yeah And that cliche quote, but it's true, hate always comes from below.

Yeah.

Like when

I'm higher, then you hate it on you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

If I'm, if I'm worse off than somebody else, that person's not going to hate me.

So, you know, I'm a 13-year-old overnight success.

So, you know, damn you for working hard.

I love, I love somebody get these has-been things.

I'm going, well, I still shoot four movies a year on average.

I shot over 90 movies.

Are they Hollywood movies?

No, because Hollywood gave me the blacklist.

Yeah.

But I'm still making movies.

I'm still in the industry I I love.

I'm still direct at least one movie every year.

I love being on set.

I will hire anybody if the best person for the job.

I don't go, well, are you a liberal?

Well, I'm not going to hire you then.

No, I would like, but I get liberals that I wanted to work with in my movies, and they don't want to work with me because I'm conservative.

Wow.

I'm going,

okay.

To me,

they're like seventh grade mean girls.

They're like little children.

Yeah.

But like I said, it's once again, it's just a sad way to go through life.

I would never let politics get in the way of business for me.

No.

You want the best person, period.

Yeah.

Why should that matter?

Yeah.

I mean,

oh, you're conservative.

You hate gays.

Find one person in the gay community.

And I've worked on every, almost every movie I've been on.

There have been lesbians, gays, homos, whatever you want to call them.

You're not going to find one that says, I was evil to them, that I treated them differently.

You won't.

But

they just put that stamp on you.

I love the Nazi thing.

I throw out Nazis all the time.

They call you a Nazi thing.

I'm going, oh, they call, yeah, you can say anything.

I'm going to call you a Nazi.

I'm going, do they understand a Nazi?

That's a socialist.

They were, that's, that's national socialists.

If anybody's the Nazis, it's the Antifa crowd that says they're against fascism where they're actually the fascists.

Yeah.

Look what they do.

Everything.

And why do they cover themselves?

That to me is they're just a bunch of cowards.

Why are you covering your face?

Why are you covering it?

Why are you march around like you're an ISIS member?

You know, show your face.

Yeah.

You know, be proud of what your stance, where you stand politically.

And what do they do?

They just attack people.

They're violent with people, carry their bats they carry their guns, and the government's like, it's weird of their government to let this go on, let it happen.

It is.

Very strange.

It's bizarre to me that they just, these, these, and look, you look at all these states on the left coast.

You look at Oregon, you look at Washington, you look at California.

Why are so many people moving to states, number one, that don't have taxes like here, Tennessee, Texas, Florida?

Florida used to be a swing state.

There's like close to a million more people now registered as conservatives in the state of Florida.

Wow.

Texas.

Texas, I I mean, there are states.

Dallas is becoming a little bit more like Austin, but

they come to this state.

When I moved here in 94 into Vegas, there were about 700,000 people.

You got about 3 million people here.

But a lot of the liberals that left California to move here, they still vote the same way.

Yet when they voted that way in California, the state got worse.

They looked at each other, honey, we should get out of here.

This is crazy.

I don't know what's going on in the state.

Did they move here and vote the same way?

And you're going, did they learn anything?

But I think the four years of biden made did like i said made a lot of people wake up a lot that's why it was a landslide yeah yeah people thought it'd be way closer yeah you tweeted out is uh michelle obama a man

um because you know and the reason i do that i saw three interviews because there's been jokes about it for a long long long time it's not just me but there's three interviews with him and the most recent one i saw bear grills and i don't know what he was doing with with obama and they're walking through they're walking through i know took him on a hike or something i don't know and he said how's the wife doing and and Obama said, Michael's doing great.

I mean, Michelle's doing great.

And he's done that in three interviews.

He's the one who said it, not me.

And people send information to me saying he had a buddy in college named Michael.

Where's Michael today?

So it's like a mystery thing.

Yeah.

And I just find that, I just find it interesting.

So I met him.

You met Obama?

I met Obama.

I was at a charity golf event.

up in Stewart, Florida, beautiful golf course called the Floridian.

And I'm walking back.

They put us all in these beautiful bungalows.

And I was sharing, there's a four-bedroom bungalows.

Each is like a master bedroom and you got two levels.

And there's like 10 of these huts.

So all this celebrities, so I was bunking with Marcus Allen and

Sterling Sharp, you know, black guys, horrible.

I was bunking with black guys.

And I've known those guys for years.

And I'm walking back because I'm not a big party guy.

So by 10.30 of the pairings party, everybody's still in the club.

I was getting drunk.

I'm walking back.

Cabin number one, there's all these Secret Service guys hanging out.

And they see me, and and they're all like 35 or 40.

So they grew up when they were 12 years old watching Hercules.

Yeah.

And they flipped, oh my gosh, dude, I grew up watching your show.

So we're talking.

I said, who's here?

This is 2020.

All right.

This is during, this is before, this is like five months before the election, before Biden won.

And

I took photos with him and stuff.

And I said, who's here?

I said, Obama's here.

I said, Obama's here.

The windows were open.

I go, Trump 2020.

He just screamed it out.

Went.

Slept that night,

got up early.

I'm like a five o'clock guy.

So I went to the gym to work out at seven in the morning.

Obama's in there with three of the guys that I met the night before.

Wow.

So I'm starting my workout and I'm looking down at him.

I could see he was kind of checking me out.

And then a guy walks up to him, one of the guys I met and said, the president would love to meet you.

And I'm on mine.

I'm going, really?

He's obviously not reading my Twitter account.

And I said, there's no reason to be a jerk.

You know, he was the president.

He was my president.

He was the president of America.

Shook his hand and I said, are you playing in the golf tournament?

He goes, no, I'm playing golf at Michael Jordan's golf course, which is not, which is close by.

And I said, hi to Michael.

I played with Michael before a couple of times.

um so what's your handicap and he goes well now that i'm not president i'm golfing more i said dude when you were president you golfed all the time and that i said that's not a criticism i'm a golf nut you can still bring all the press they can walk on the golf course with me congressional golf course there is beautiful in washington dc it's an amazing golf course they've had pj events there and stuff so um so don't lie to me what's your handicap and he said oh i never lie

So I put my hand on his shoulder.

I said, Mr.

President, you're a politician.

That's pretty much what you guys do on both sides of the political.

And he laughed laughed because they know.

Yeah, yeah.

They know.

They all know they lie.

We all lie.

We're not, you know, none of us are perfect that way.

But he laughed, you know?

And it was the one time I didn't have my phone with me because I forgot my earbuds in the gym.

Because I know he would have done picture with me.

So I'm mad at myself for missed the opportunity.

Because if you saw my wall of political fame at home, you would go, where do you stand politically?

Because I'm there.

I met Bill Clinton a number of times.

I've golfed with Clinton.

Really?

Oh, yeah.

What was I?

It was fine.

We had a good time.

Look, when I was here in Vegas, I golfed a number of times with the 10-year governor, Bob Miller.

Bob Miller's a Democrat.

He knows where I stand.

We get along fine.

We're on the golf course.

We can give each other crap, but we get along.

We have a good time golfing together.

So I golfed with Bill Clinton's stepfather.

And he gave the okay to Bill saying, well, Bill, he knows who I am.

He knows who I was.

And

so

Bill's.

biological father is not his last name.

Clinton is from his stepfather.

His stepfather is the one that raised him, I think, since he he was two years old.

So I don't know what his biological father's last name is.

So, but my wall, it's me with Clinton, me with

Gorbachev.

I met Gorbachev two times from Russia.

Not us.

Both Bushes I'm up there with.

Trump is on my wall.

Yeah, I mean,

it's a very interesting wall of political fame and people look at it and they go, oh my gosh, because it's interesting to me.

I met Gorbachev in New Zealand, then I met him here in Vegas.

Bob Miller invited him here.

There was some kind of thing going on between Russia and bringing people here to the state.

And so we had a brunch together for like for two hours.

I was sitting right across from him.

My wife was here.

His translator is right there.

He speaks English, but he has a way of controlling the conversation because he would say something in Russian to his translator.

His translator would say it to either my wife or myself.

We would answer, ask him a question.

He would go right away into that.

Before we could rebuke, he'd come back and start talking.

So it was interesting how you could see the way he controlled the conversation.

But it was still cool to meet a guy at the height of the Cold War that Reagan and him butted heads for all that time, and along with Maggie Thatcher, the prime minister of Britain at that time.

For me, it was pretty neat to meet that guy.

I've been lucky to meet a lot of high-profile people because of the so-called celebrity thing.

I love it.

And so it's been an interesting ride, but it's been fun.

Which president had the best golf game?

I got to tell you, you, Trump's a good golfer.

Really?

He's in his late 70s.

This guy hits 250 down the middle.

Damn.

Got a great short game.

It says 78 years old.

If you look at president,

look at how much

Obama has aged.

Trump doesn't look like he's aged the last 11 years.

He looks the same.

He loves America.

I don't care what people say about that.

I met him back in 2005.

We golfed together back then.

And that's when he was Donald Trump, you know?

And here's a guy that's worth less money now.

He doesn't take the salary.

He loves America.

When we go golfing together, there's six Secret Service guys with us.

Two ahead.

Those are the guys that found the guy with the gun.

Potent, you know, they checked the entire hole, making sure you're safe.

Two with us, two stay behind us.

He golfs fast.

I love it.

A foursim is two hours and 40 minutes.

Most people take four or five hours.

So we're just cruising.

The group, the guys ahead, once the hole's clear, if there's somebody on the hole, those people have to move over to the side.

And they know it.

The members at this Trump International.

And we'll tee off.

He will drive his cart over to get out of his cart, thank them all for being there, shake their hands.

If he knows them, because they're members, he doesn't know every member.

But if he knows him, hey, how you doing?

But he'll say, hey, well, you know us.

We'll be out of your way in a heartbeat.

Hope you see inside for lunch.

Do you think other presidents would do that?

Or anybody would do that with egos and stuff.

And I just, I go, you know, and he's funny as hell.

And most of the stuff he does, this Trump derangement thing is for real.

He does it.

He does it just to get people's goats.

and i told him back then in 2005 i've always wanted a businessman to run america not a politician so i take i take credit for playing that seat because 10 years later he ran for office i love it but it's it's i i tell you what i think i i

i want to go back to term limits again but i want more businessmen running the country than these politicians because all they do is seem to care about themselves well if you think about it it's it is a business it is a business we are a business yeah every country is a business how do you want to run look the the the government of China is communist the way it controls the people.

But the government itself is a capitalist.

Look at them.

Look what they want.

Look at the deals they want.

Look at the production they do for around the world, let alone America, made in China, made in China.

They love the money coming in, too.

Let's not kid ourselves.

Yeah, they're a serious threat these days, man.

Oh, no question.

China, no question.

They might pass us.

Yeah.

Yeah.

If we don't step it up.

Yeah, well, we're stepping up right now.

We're stepping it up.

Dude, it's been awesome.

We'll link your upcoming films below.

Anything else you want to close off with?

Sorbostudios.com is a great place to go.

A lot of good stuff happening there.

And

yeah, I just hope people would support the movies we do.

I've got some wonderful movies coming out that are family movies.

I used to get stopped all the time through airports, hotel lobbies, whatever.

And people say, hey, I love Hercules, love Endrameda.

90% of the time now, it's the movies I'm doing that are family movies.

And I love that people say that.

You know, I do a lot of speaking events.

I've got four books out there myself.

I do a lot of work with Kurt Cameron with Bray books.

We do books for like four to ten-year-old kids

that are that are good books about just growing up and the importance of this, the importance of that.

It's not like it's not this vulgar insanity, but like I said, I think that's people are getting tired of it.

Yeah, just getting tired of it.

But

the link is everything below.

Thanks for coming on.

It's been a pleasure.

Yep.

Peace.

Thanks.