Michael Carbonara: Why Crypto Could Save America's Economy | DSH #1592

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Speaker 3 There's been global wars right now. There's wars in Gaza, there's wars in Ukraine.
And we were basically in an economic war with China now for a few years.

Speaker 3 And I think all this is leading up to something with China. Really, it's about communism.
China had told they started preparing for a kinetic war as early as 2027. That's where this is going.

Speaker 3 And what you see right now with the economic war and the trade war, that this is just a precursor. I think Trump's being really smart about it.

Speaker 3 China is not going to like us taking back our manufacturing ability. They're going to do something fighting.

Speaker 6 Okay, guys, we got Michael here today. He is running for Congress and uh in Florida.
Thanks for coming out, man. Yeah, thank you.
Thanks for having Sharon.

Speaker 6 I know you don't do podcasts too often, but it's going to be cool to see your side of things. Appreciate it.
You're running against Debbie Wasserman.

Speaker 3 I am. Yeah, Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

Speaker 3 She's been a career politician. I believe she's been in office since 1992, over 20 years in this district.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 I think that people are ready for a change.

Speaker 6 Yeah. What's the chatter about with her name? Like, are people happy the past 20 years overall?

Speaker 3 I have never met anybody that's happy with Debbie Washington.

Speaker 3 Honestly, everybody I've talked to in the district has a Debbie story. But she's been there.

Speaker 3 She's consistently voted to raise taxes. She wants bigger government.
She's really been eroding our freedoms since she's been in office.

Speaker 3 You know, what's really interesting is most recently,

Speaker 3 two recent scandals came out. There's actually, she's been brought up for the ethics violations potentially on the Stock Act.

Speaker 3 She

Speaker 3 turns out to be a very good stock picker.

Speaker 6 Is she as good as Nancy Pelosi?

Speaker 3 Acts turned out better. Wow.
Over 300% gains from her last pick. Holy crap.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 she's also,

Speaker 3 the Durham Annex report came out, which is a report on the whole Russia gate scandal. And it turns out Debbie Washman Schultz was very involved in that, was in the report.

Speaker 6 That was a big scandal, man. I could not stop seeing that on the news when I was in college, Russia Gate, and then they proved it to be false, right?

Speaker 3 It was an actual attempted coup, and Debbie Washman Schultz was very much involved.

Speaker 6 Didn't Tulsi expose some information in regards to that with Obama, too?

Speaker 3 Exactly, yeah. I mean, Obama, Hillary, Debbie Washman Schultz, and the Soros Foundation were all involved.

Speaker 6 Wow. It's weird that specifically her wasn't.

Speaker 3 Well, at the time, she was the party leader. She was the head of the DNC during the 2016 elections.
Okay.

Speaker 3 So there was a lot of scandal there.

Speaker 3 You know, Bernie actually won the Democratic primary, but Debbie basically gave it to Hillary.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 6 The lust turned on Bernie for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And that all happened under her watch.

Speaker 6 That's nuts. So is that a big reason why you decided to run? You were tired of this.

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Speaker 3 You know,

Speaker 3 there's been

Speaker 3 tired is not the right word. This is a path to

Speaker 3 really socialism that's been going on. You know, we saw that with COVID during this, we had during the whole Biden administration.
We saw our rights taken away. Censorship was a big one.

Speaker 3 We lost our health freedoms, our economic freedoms. Everything was being torn down.

Speaker 3 And W. Washington Schultz has been in office for over 20 years.
She's part of the problem. And, you know, my wife came from Cuba.

Speaker 3 She came here. She immigrated legally to this country.
Her family escaped communism. Her grandfather was actually a political prisoner.
of Castro for over 20 years.

Speaker 3 So when he eventually got out, he won asylum and he was able to bring her over. But I mean, I have heard some horror stories.

Speaker 3 When you lose these freedoms, communism is right around the corner.

Speaker 3 And I could tell you from their stories, I mean, it's awful. Her grandfather was tortured in that prison for over 20 years.

Speaker 3 Her father was thrown in jail for six months for selling soap.

Speaker 3 They threw him in jail for each bar of soap that he got caught selling because they don't want anybody to have

Speaker 3 any self-sustain. They want complete dependency on the state.

Speaker 6 And

Speaker 6 where New York City might be heading, right? If Mdani wins. Exactly.

Speaker 3 Exactly. So what we're seeing now is a slow erosion of our freedoms.
And we're seeing these socialist, communist people actually coming and some of them getting into office.

Speaker 3 And if we don't wake up, if we don't actually do something now, it's not going to be far away when we actually are going to wake up and not going to be able to do something about it.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I agree. I'm a big fan of capitalism.
Did you see the one-on-twenty debate with Patrick Bett David on Jubilee?

Speaker 3 I didn't catch that one.

Speaker 6 It was capitalism versus like like basically all these super left liberals and they were trying to like explain how capitalism was bad.

Speaker 3 It's, you know what,

Speaker 3 I can understand

Speaker 3 a lot of people, especially the younger generation, they've been left out of what's traditionally the American dream. It is so hard now for the younger generation, Gen Z, Gen Alpha,

Speaker 3 to own a home, to get jobs, to really have a quality of life. It's not the America that was we had 20 years ago, 30 years ago.

Speaker 3 A lot of those freedoms have evaporated because of the policies of people like W. Washington Schultz and what she's voted for.
And we need to restore that. We need to restore opportunity.

Speaker 3 We need to have jobs here. We need opportunity.
We need to lessen the size of government, lower taxes. We need to get people back the freedom to have self-determination to control their own life.

Speaker 6 I agree. Yeah, our grandparents could afford a home, right? One parent household was working usually too back then.
Yeah. Now you need both incomes for most families.

Speaker 3 Yeah, one or two jobs per parent, and they often have to pay for their child to be in daycare. So that's ripping the family apart.

Speaker 3 You have the state or you're basically outsourcing the parenting because you don't have a choice. You can't survive anymore.

Speaker 3 We're on a downward trend. And I think the Trump administration, what they've been doing now, it's been putting us on the right path, but there's a lot more work to do.

Speaker 3 I mean, this is a generational shift. It takes a generation to change these.
projections.

Speaker 6 Have you been pretty happy overall with Trump in his second term?

Speaker 3 I have been. I think that that there's been tremendous forward movement.

Speaker 3 I think what's going on with taxes being lowered is great. I mean, Trump did stop seven wars.
I mean, that is amazing.

Speaker 3 I mean, he's the first president in over 100 years, including his first term, that didn't start a new war. I mean, he is a peacemaker.

Speaker 3 So for that, I mean, not only are we peaceful and having quality life, but obviously that also we don't need to be spending money on foreign wars.

Speaker 3 We have plenty of problems here at home that we need to be addressing.

Speaker 6 So many problems. And he's pro-crypto.
Obviously, you're pro-crypto too.

Speaker 6 Is that your main business, the crypto stuff?

Speaker 3 It's a big part of my business, yeah. You know, crypto for me, it's not just a business, but that also represents the opportunity for economic freedom for everyone.

Speaker 3 Decentralization gives everybody control of their own money, custody of their own money in a currency that's not able to be inflated.

Speaker 3 So I think that's going to open up and create wealth for the lower middle classes. One of the greatest opportunities of the century, I believe.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Yeah.
I've loved what they've, they've been probably the first government that I can remember that's been pro-crypto in America, at least.

Speaker 6 I mean, it was really tough under Biden to be in that space.

Speaker 3 Yeah, the Biden administration really came down hard.

Speaker 3 The

Speaker 3 de-risking and the de-banking of a lot of companies. I got debanked.

Speaker 3 It's yeah, it's terrible.

Speaker 6 I lost a huge relationship. I had tons of transaction with that bank and they shut down me and my mother.

Speaker 3 My mom got involved.

Speaker 3 It's terrible. Yeah.
Well, one thing I'm glad too, actually, under the Trump administration this year, they did put forth

Speaker 3 a new rule where you can't get deep banked based on reputational issues. Oh, wow.
And I think that is a tremendous thing to do. I didn't know we did that.

Speaker 6 Wow.

Speaker 3 That passed?

Speaker 3 Yeah, that was early this year. Oh, nice.
And, you know, everybody's got lives. Now you have social media.
Everything's public. There's no privacy anymore.
And really,

Speaker 3 you know, actually, I remember this tweet years ago from Kevin Sorbo.

Speaker 6 He's been on the show. He's cool.

Speaker 3 Has he? Okay. Interesting.
And this tweet, I just, it really stuck with me. He said, the only freedom worth protecting, or only freedom of speech worth protecting, is a speech you don't agree with.

Speaker 3 And I think that's so important because it's really, it simplifies it, but it hits the nail on the head.

Speaker 6 That is pretty profound.

Speaker 3 Because we're all different. We all have different opinions, and we should have the right to speak those opinions.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I'm big on free speech. I have on people that I disagree with 99% of the things, but I think it's important for them to be able to at least voice their

Speaker 6 opinion.

Speaker 3 Yeah, absolutely. I mean,

Speaker 3 you need to have dialogue. I mean, that's how we improve ourselves.
That's how how we learn. I mean, we want to be in the echo chamber of our own thoughts.

Speaker 3 You know, we need to have some feedback and understanding.

Speaker 6 Yeah. And I know prior to running, you were you weren't even on social media, right?

Speaker 3 No. No, I mean, I had a LinkedIn account, but I wasn't active.
It was just

Speaker 6 purposes.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's not social media. But yeah, I had a pretty private life and

Speaker 3 never had really social media. So now this is all kind of new to me.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Is it a big adjustment for you?

Speaker 3 It is.

Speaker 3 You know, I actually announced my campaign recently and we posted something on social media and i was actually shocked uh a lot of comments uh i expected a lot of negative comments just the nature of things but it was interesting i i a lot of comments i felt people were really looking for some hope and change and and people were really looking for uh a brighter future yeah you know there was a couple of negative comments nothing crazy but just it was just interesting to see everybody's different thoughts i mean that's unavoidable especially in your space in politics because half the population is democrat so you're gonna get negative comments no matter what.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah.
And that's part of the problem. It's everybody is, we're in this dynamic where it's red team versus blue team.
And, you know, there are issues where we can agree on.

Speaker 3 It doesn't always have to be a conflict.

Speaker 6 Yeah. I agree.

Speaker 6 What are the main issues you're going to be focused on?

Speaker 3 My main issues is just restoration of freedom in general. And there's, I mean, I'm, I have specific.

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Speaker 3 Economic freedoms, I think that's so important.

Speaker 3 I think we have a lot of unnecessary bureaucracy. that hinders business, business development, business startup.

Speaker 3 The Genius Bill in the United States, I think, is wonderful. I think that's really going to help make the United States a crypto centric for the whole for business for the whole world.

Speaker 3 I think our tax code needs to be reformed. I think we need to give people back their own money and let them decide how to spend it.
And the government doesn't need to be this big bloated bureaucracy.

Speaker 3 Our country was established as a confederacy.

Speaker 3 We have the Articles of Confederation creating our country and every state is its own sovereign nation, entity essentially so the states need to have more power to decide what they want to do locally and and really that's capitalism by having different states and the ability to move we create competition between the states so they can have basically our incentivized to create more freedom for the people yeah because if you're a state i'll give you an example california way bureaucratic way too many strict laws uh way too high taxes and everybody's fleeing.

Speaker 3 They're going to Texas. They're going to

Speaker 3 Florida. And I think that's a great thing because people shouldn't be stuck paying taxes 13%.
They come to Florida, pay 0% income taxes.

Speaker 6 Yeah. I just saw something where they tried raising the minimum wage a lot and then a bunch of businesses left and it actually affects the workers.

Speaker 6 You know what I mean? So these guys are fighting for higher wages, but it actually affects them more.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Well,

Speaker 3 those minimum wages, you know, they sound great. And, you know, people need to have earned a good wage.

Speaker 3 But really, when they put those minimum wages in place, statistically, they actually increase the unemployment rate. Wow.
Because as a business, you may not be able to afford those rates. You have to

Speaker 3 basically either fire people or you have to automate things with AI or some other type of machinery.

Speaker 3 So you need to have the free market determine those wages.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's pretty crazy. And these days, they'll just replace jobs with AI too.
Yeah. Business owners if they keep raising the wages.

Speaker 3 Absolutely. Yeah.
Because what else are they going to do? I mean, there's a misconception that every business owner is just filthy rich and can just afford to do anything.

Speaker 3 The average business owner struggles.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I think they make 40K a year, right?

Speaker 3 I'm not sure, but I wouldn't be surprised. You end up working twice as much nights, weekends.
You don't get time off. And if you don't make money, you don't pay the bills.

Speaker 3 But your employees, they get paid regardless. Yep.

Speaker 3 And it's a... It's not an easy life.
And

Speaker 3 it's not just magic where things just happen. And people need to understand that they need to make it more business friendly.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it's not easy. That's why when I see these people go against capitalism, it's like, what's the better alternative then if you're against this?

Speaker 3 I think that there's a miseducation what capitalism really is. Yeah.
We've been losing that freedom. You know, the taxes, the minimum wages, I mean, that's not part of capitalism.

Speaker 3 A privately owned central bank issuing our money rather than Congress, that's not capitalism. Not at all.

Speaker 6 I hope you can contribute to getting taxes lowered. I just pay my quarterlys.
And every time I do that, I'm like, bro.

Speaker 6 Here goes another good chunk of change for God knows what, right?

Speaker 3 Yeah, they have really no say what you had spent.

Speaker 6 Yeah, literally none. Like, it'd be cool if you could at least pick the category or something, but no, it's just like, here you go.

Speaker 6 And then when Doge exposed all that, it made me even hate it even more. So, yeah.
And I don't know what happened with that. Like, Doge kind of just.

Speaker 3 You know, I'm not sure exactly what's going on there. I think there's still some things going on.

Speaker 3 What's actually pretty exciting, this Governor DeSantis actually started using Doge in South Florida, and they've been investigating it starting last month in Broward County, where I'm from. And so

Speaker 3 I think what they learned a lot and they're taking it and bringing it to the state. So excited about that.

Speaker 6 Oh, wow. I didn't know that.
Shout out to DeSantis.

Speaker 3 Yeah. No, he's been a great governor.
You're happy with him? Yeah. I think all Floridians are happy with Governor DeSantis, even Democrats.

Speaker 6 I think he handled COVID the best out of any governor in the country.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Florida's been doing great.

Speaker 3 You know, it's interesting. Florida actually completely filled its renewed day fund so much that they're not even allowed to save any more money.
They saved too much. DeSantis done a great job.

Speaker 6 What a great job. I don't think any other state could say that.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you guys are, I think, the number one state people want to go to right now, right? Florida?

Speaker 3 Yeah. It's

Speaker 3 booming. And I think it really has the opportunity to be the next big Silicon Valley.
We have, I mean, it's a great place for cryptocurrency companies. There's crypto companies there.

Speaker 3 A lot of big companies, banking companies such as Citadel have moved down.

Speaker 3 A lot of companies during COVID realized that they weren't getting banged for their buck in New York and California with the taxes. So they decided to move to Florida as a more freer state.

Speaker 6 Yeah, there's a lot of benefits. Weather's good.
You could fly international pretty easy there. No state tax.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Shout out to Florida, man.

Speaker 6 I mean, we got Newsome on the other side of things, probably running in 28 in Cali. What do you think of him?

Speaker 3 You know, I don't know how anybody would ever vote him in ever again. I'm just shocked at how he handled the fires.
I mean, that was such mismanagement.

Speaker 3 And I see a lot of people complaining now that they're not even able to build their homes again. I think that there's

Speaker 3 really a lot of mismanagement. And I don't think he's really helping the people of California.

Speaker 6 I don't think so at all. It's mind-blowing to me that he still has a good following that supports him.

Speaker 3 I don't know if that's true or not.

Speaker 6 Well, if you go on like Polymarket or any site to see who's in the lead right now, he's in first place.

Speaker 3 To be honest, I don't think that there's a whole lot of quality leadership in that party right now. I think they've lost their way.

Speaker 6 I grew up liberal in Jersey, and I can agree with that. You know, it's come such a long way.
I can't see myself going there for the next five years at least.

Speaker 3 Yeah, there's no message. There's no platform from that party right now.
And I think that

Speaker 3 the Republican Party, it's changed quite a bit since Trump and MAGA stepped in. And there's a lot of different perspectives.

Speaker 3 But I'd say, you know, any Democrats that are happy with the party, join the Republican Party and voice, you know,

Speaker 3 maybe

Speaker 3 make it better.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Because at the end of the day, it's not about red versus blue. It's about what's best for Americans.

Speaker 6 Absolutely. Yeah, I'm not a fan of the whole two-party system myself, to be honest.

Speaker 3 You know,

Speaker 3 I know some people aren't. I don't know if Europe's got anything better,

Speaker 3 but I think the U.S. is probably better than what they have.
In Europe, they have many, many parties.

Speaker 6 There's too many.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 But, you know,

Speaker 3 the founding fathers set up a system. I think that so far we've done better than most countries in the world.
I think we can do better. I think that there's a lot of room for improvement.
And I hope

Speaker 3 Trump talks about this golden age of America. And I think about this a lot.

Speaker 3 I kind of step back and I see what he's doing with basically getting us out of wars, bringing in manufacturing, making the United States, the AI and crypto capital of the world is, I don't think people realize how

Speaker 3 really massive that is. It's just going to leapfrog us ahead of everyone in innovation.

Speaker 6 I do like that he's doing that and also bringing people together. Last night, did you see the dinner he hosted? No, I didn't.
It was the CEOs of all the biggest tech companies in the world.

Speaker 6 Mark Zuckerberg, Google CEO was there, Twitter, all the biggest companies.

Speaker 6 And he's kind of talking about how he's bringing more money to America, how much companies are going to invest, bringing infrastructure here. I don't see Biden doing any of that.

Speaker 6 I love that he's unifying everyone.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he's building up. It was almost like the Biden administration was intentionally eroding the country.
It's, I mean, every sector was going down. People were losing faith in this country.

Speaker 3 And now people are hopeful. I mean, not only just what Trump's doing, but he brought in RFK Jr.
and what he's doing at CDC and FDAs.

Speaker 3 To me, I think that is just amazing. I think he's really going to be saving lives.

Speaker 6 Shout out to RFK. He was fighting.
I saw some clips of him last night. He was really getting challenged by some of those guys on Congress, right? Did you see that?

Speaker 3 I did, yeah. And

Speaker 3 I thought he did a really great job. And, you know,

Speaker 3 I don't understand why, I mean, there's all the Democratic senators that were were chasing him, but he really is doing exactly what he said he was going to do. And he's bringing transparency.

Speaker 3 And there was a lot of complaints that he was getting rid of the vaccines, that people need vaccines. And if you listen to him, he was never doing that.

Speaker 3 He was actually bringing transparency and requiring actual studies to be done to make sure they were effective.

Speaker 3 And they just didn't want transparency. They wanted to just.

Speaker 3 you know, drive those vaccines to us without telling us what's in it. Is it safe? Is it effective? And people have a right to know.

Speaker 6 100%. Especially if you're getting 50 of them by the time you're 18.
You should know what's in them, right?

Speaker 6 I think if I have kids, I would want to know what I'm giving them in their bloodstream.

Speaker 3 Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 3 you go to a pediatrician and they say, no, don't introduce a new food, you know, more than one at a time. Wait a few days.

Speaker 3 Well, when it's time for vaccines, they'll give you 10, 15 vaccines in a single day. No problem.
And I have two daughters and

Speaker 3 I chose not to vaccine them.

Speaker 6 Good job. I'm doing the same.
In fact, I heard they give you shit at the the hospital when you have a kid these days.

Speaker 3 They do. And

Speaker 3 to be honest, my daughters are so smart. Their immune system is so strong.

Speaker 3 They're so vibrant and healthy.

Speaker 6 Nice. That's great.
Yeah, I heard you could visibly see the difference on some of these kids. Like they're starting to do tests, right?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I can see it when I go to the park. I really see the difference.

Speaker 6 Look at the autism rates. I mean, that's not a coincidence.
I don't think that's a conspiracy anymore. But yeah, RFK was getting so challenged.

Speaker 6 And then you look at the donor money from big pharma that's going to some of these people in Congress.

Speaker 6 And then you see all these same names are calling him out, and they're not even letting him talk.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Like it was really hard to watch.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they just want to get their viewpoints there to their constituents, their donors. That's really what it is about.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 6 What do you think of that whole system right now with the donors and how these PACs are funding all that?

Speaker 3 You know, I'm not really too sure. I mean, there's a lot of things that are going on, especially with Act Blue right now.

Speaker 3 They're finding out that I think there were a few hundred SAR filings against Act Blue, supposedly, about the way that they were raising money and funding the Democratic Party.

Speaker 3 So there's a lot of things that need to be investigated there.

Speaker 6 There was dead people donating to that one, I think.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So basically,

Speaker 3 this is what I've heard. I mean, I don't know for sure, but basically they have pools of money, but then they use databases of people live, dead, illegal here, or maybe not.

Speaker 3 And they just use their names to... basically stay under the radar of the threshold for the limits.

Speaker 6 That's crazy. Hopefully they find out what's what's going on there.
There's there's fires everywhere, though. We kind of got to pick and choose our battles, right? Yeah.

Speaker 6 What do you think the biggest threat is in 2025 to America?

Speaker 3 In 2025, I think that there's,

Speaker 3 you know, we've been out, there's been global wars right now. There's wars in Gaza.
There's wars in Ukraine.

Speaker 3 We were

Speaker 3 basically in an economic war with China now for a few years. And I think all this is

Speaker 3 leading up to something with China. Yeah.
And And really, it's about communism.

Speaker 3 And China had told and made announcements, I think it was 2023, that they started preparing for a kinetic war as early as 2027,

Speaker 3 starting with Taiwan. Saw that.

Speaker 3 So that's where this is going. And what you see right now with the economic war and the trade war and that this is just a precursor.
So I think Trump's being really smart about it.

Speaker 3 You know, China is not going to like us taking back our manufacturing ability. They're going to do something to fight back.

Speaker 6 It does seem like war with China is inevitable because they already announced that they're going to invade Taiwan in 27, right?

Speaker 3 And I don't think it has to be that way, but that is certainly something that they said that they're moving towards.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that would be probably one of the biggest wars of all time.

Speaker 3 I hope that we don't get there. And like I said, Trump is a peacemaker, and I know he doesn't want that.
And I have faith that he'll avoid any potential wars like that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Bring to a negotiation table.

Speaker 6 I'm confident in him for the next four years, but who knows after, man? Who knows if another Biden comes into office and then screws everything up, you know?

Speaker 3 That's why we need good people in office that actually believe in America and really want peace. Yeah.

Speaker 6 With the trade war stuff, with all the tariff stuff going on, where do you stand on that debate? I know that's kind of like a hit or miss topic for some people.

Speaker 3 I kind of just think, you know, if tariffs didn't work, why does every other country in the whole world have tariffs? I mean, that shouldn't be reciprocal. Right.

Speaker 3 I don't see any, I mean, I haven't seen any increase in consumer products on the tariff

Speaker 3 being there. I think it's fine.
I mean, I think also what Trump's doing, he's bringing, finding creative ways to

Speaker 3 drive revenue to the United States to pay off debt, to innovate. I mean, he's got to do something because

Speaker 3 the U.S. was lost so many freedoms, lost manufacturing, lost so much.
And he's finding many alternative creative ways to bring that back to America. And that's just one tool that he has.

Speaker 3 And look what he's doing. He combine that and then he negotiated with Intel.
I mean, he's doing something really creative outside the box.

Speaker 3 And he's doing it based because he's had 50 years in the business as an entrepreneur. He knows what he's doing.
He knows how to make a deal.

Speaker 6 And Apple, I think he worked out a deal with Apple.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 And Facebook just announced at the dinner last night, I think 60 billion or 600 billion they're going to invest in the U.S.

Speaker 3 Oh, wow. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 6 So he's bringing all these top companies together and figuring out how to better the country. Yeah.
It's beautiful, right? Yeah.

Speaker 3 And, you know, that's something I really hope to bring my experience as an entrepreneur and help along with that as much as I can do in Congress anyways.

Speaker 3 You know, Debbie Washington Schultz, I don't believe she's ever had a job in the private sector. She's been in a career politician since 1992.

Speaker 6 Yeah. I think what people got to realize is you didn't have to do this.
You already made a substantial amount of wealth, right? You could have rode off into the sunset.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, you know, I love, I don't, I've never done any of my businesses for money. I really love to be creative, to solve problems, to build things.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 I just felt at a point in my life,

Speaker 3 I was, I was already successful in business. I have a family now.
I have two daughters and I wanted to do something to give back. I wanted to participate and contribute to the community.

Speaker 3 I wanted to make our country better because my kids are going to grow up here. And, you know, the country's changed drastically since I grew up.
And I think we need to return to those freedoms.

Speaker 3 I think we need to return to what America really stood for.

Speaker 6 Yeah. For your kids, do you feel like they still have a shot at the American dream? Do you think it's still alive?

Speaker 3 I think that it's holding on by a thread. But I know that in America, we can always do anything we want.
I think America is a land of opportunity. We do have the Constitution.

Speaker 3 It is one of the easiest places to create a business.

Speaker 3 Maybe not for every industry, but I've worked in Singapore, in the Middle East, in Europe, in South America. America is by far the best country, in my opinion.

Speaker 3 And not just because I'm American, but I've seen what's out there. But I also know what it has been and what can be.

Speaker 3 And I think... all it takes is people to do better.
We all need to get involved. We all need to participate.
If we all believe that America could be great, it could be done very quickly.

Speaker 3 Americans outwork everyone. I mean, we work twice as much as the rest of the world.

Speaker 3 And I think that if we put our minds to it, if we really have a goal of creating the America that we want to see, that golden age of America, I have no doubt that we can achieve it.

Speaker 6 Yeah, yeah. We work damn hard.
I know I do at least, but like my parents were immigrants, you know, so I got the work ethic from them. Yeah.
I think we're one of the hardest working countries.

Speaker 3 We are. But you know what?

Speaker 3 We're a country founded by entrepreneurs.

Speaker 3 George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, they all created businesses while they ran in government.

Speaker 3 So these were not politicians. These were businessmen that created this country.

Speaker 6 Nice. You know your history pretty well, huh? I try.
Who's your favorite president all the time?

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's a tough question. I don't know.

Speaker 6 Name a few, I guess. Doesn't be one.

Speaker 3 You know,

Speaker 3 I would say, no, George Washington is probably one of my heroes. And, you know, when you think of America as this country of

Speaker 3 kind of this underdog of pride, of can-do-anything attitude, of

Speaker 3 just grit. And all those attributes actually come from George Washington.
They're his personification. I mean, he, a lot of people don't know this.

Speaker 3 I mean, he, he lost every single battle in the Revolutionary War. He didn't win a single battle.
Really?

Speaker 3 He lost 80,000 men when the British lost 1,000 men.

Speaker 6 Holy crap. It got

Speaker 6 destroyed.

Speaker 3 Only his perseverance of never giving up that won the Revolutionary War.

Speaker 6 Wow. Because when I think about him and I think about historical photos of him, it's like him winning battles.
Yes. You know what I mean? Like him at the front lines leading.
He lost every single one.

Speaker 6 Holy crap. Every single battle? He's still considered a legend.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 He was relentless. He never gave up.

Speaker 6 That's awesome, man.

Speaker 3 And, you know, they say that he was

Speaker 3 protected. All the

Speaker 3 Native Americans at the time. Yes, he fought in the French and Indian War too.
And so they knew his legend. And, you know, he would ride in the front of every battle.

Speaker 3 He would take charge and be right in all the danger. He'd have bullet holes in his hat and coat, but not a single bullet ever touched him.
So

Speaker 3 they always thought he he was protected by God. Wow.

Speaker 6 That is pretty crazy, right?

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Damn. I used to love history class, but unfortunately, the way they teach it these days, I'm not the biggest fan anymore.
But

Speaker 3 I learned most of my history actually in my 20s just reading out of a hobby.

Speaker 6 That's the way to do it. Straight to the book, right? Not a textbook.
Yeah. Where there's planned propaganda, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 6 Going back to the immigration real quick, my parents were immigrants. Do you want to see more immigrants entering the country right now, or do you, are you part of that camp that wants to see a pause?

Speaker 6 Where do you stand on that?

Speaker 3 You know, I think immigration is fine. I think we need to do a temporary slowdown because we, last four years, we really had completely unchecked immigration.

Speaker 3 And we need to find out who's here, who doesn't need to be here.

Speaker 3 I watched the

Speaker 3 Senate hearings with RFK this week, and he mentioned that during the Biden administration, they had 476,000 minors come across that were lost.

Speaker 3 They were basically just handed off to random random people that they have no checks and balances, no zapping.

Speaker 3 So what's going on with the legal immigration, it's not just hurting Americans, it's hurting the people that are being abused.

Speaker 3 I mean, there's human trafficking, there's drugs and cartels, there's crime. We need to get a handle on that.

Speaker 3 You know, and another thing too, I think is really important.

Speaker 3 If you want to step back and take a look at a macro picture of this, say over the next 10 years,

Speaker 3 we have AI that's going to give us a wonderful tool to innovate and be

Speaker 3 much more productive and efficient. We don't know what that's truly going to result in in our job market.
So we need to basically

Speaker 3 have a time where the Americans can get the right training and jobs that are going to have basically post-AI.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 we don't need excess integrations for a workforce. That's just, it's going to hurt us.
We need to basically settle down with what we have and get an assessment before we open the doors anymore.

Speaker 6 Interesting.

Speaker 3 And I'm not saying no immigration. I'm just saying it should be merit-based.
It should be illegal integration.

Speaker 3 Asylum cases can be, of course.

Speaker 3 We need checks and balances. We need a system.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I know that whole H-1B thing was a debate, right? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Every system, all the bureaucracy has been abused. Yeah.
And that's why I really liked what Doge is doing because we need an audit of everything so we can fix it.

Speaker 6 Just accountability. That's all we ask for, right? Yeah, exactly.
Like if you don't have that accountability, human nature is obviously going to take advantage of anything.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah.
It's not that there's one evil person pulling the strings. It's the nature of bureaucracy is inefficiency and abuse.

Speaker 6 100%.

Speaker 6 So it sounds like you're pretty pro-AI.

Speaker 3 I am. Yeah.
I mean, it's just another tool. I mean, you think about when the internet came out,

Speaker 3 well, I would say useful internet came out 25, 30 years ago. Everybody was scared of that.

Speaker 3 But if you didn't adopt the internet 25, 30 years ago, you'd be left out of the internet of commerce, the world's commerce.

Speaker 3 You know, people were scared of electricity when it came out until they figured out they could light their homes with it.

Speaker 3 This is just another tool we have to adapt to.

Speaker 6 Interesting. Yeah.

Speaker 3 It would make our lives better.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I'm a huge fan. I use it daily.
It sucks to see certain schools banning it, honestly. I think that's not a good move.

Speaker 3 Well, it's interesting, there's a school in Droward County that's the first pilot school to work with Microsoft Copilot. Oh, wow.
It's going to be the first AI program with a school.

Speaker 6 That's awesome. I'd imagine once the studies on those kids are out, they'll be skyrocketing class.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 So that's actually a great thing for my district. So I'm really excited about that.

Speaker 6 Nice. Where do you stand on the student loan forgiveness

Speaker 6 stuff?

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's also

Speaker 3 interesting. I think that

Speaker 3 the student loan,

Speaker 3 I think a lot of it was abused for a long time.

Speaker 3 The problem is that that's another bureaucracy of the educational system and loans were given out.

Speaker 3 You know, a lot of people, I'm sure you know people that were giving us student loans and they take the money, go buy TVs, you know, all different things. It was another abuse system.

Speaker 3 But part of it was that the unnecessary subsidies raised the cost of education so high that you had to get a loan in the first place.

Speaker 3 So I think that needs to be something that has to be done. I think it needs to take a look at that, especially we have a whole generation that is massively in debt.
They'll probably never pay it off.

Speaker 3 And then you have the other part of it. Well,

Speaker 3 I can't buy a home. I don't have a job to pay my debt.

Speaker 3 We need to have something that looks at the whole as a as a whole system, not just through the loan debt, but as a whole generational problem of the economic issues.

Speaker 3 I don't know exactly how that's going to end, but we need to look at that because they're all tied together. It's not a one-off.

Speaker 6 It's hard to imagine we ever get out of debt at the current levels.

Speaker 3 I think Trump's doing some unique things with the tariffs, going into Bitcoin, bringing it back to manufacturing. You know, I think

Speaker 3 lowering taxes is helping people. I mean, that's going to help people have a better quality of life because they have more money to spend.

Speaker 3 But if the tariffs are coming in, then we pay off that debt as well.

Speaker 6 You're optimistic.

Speaker 3 There's a you know, humanity always has a way to fix everything.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I hope so because whenever I look at it, I just can't fathom it.

Speaker 3 It's like there's deals to be made. There's negotiations.
There's always something. Everything is fixable, but you need good leadership and creativity to fix it.

Speaker 6 Also, there's an argument that we should be in some debt too to grow. So I see that side too.

Speaker 3 Well, I mean, any business has revolving debt lines and things like that.

Speaker 3 That is not necessarily bad if it's managed well. When it's out of control,

Speaker 6 and right now it is.

Speaker 6 I would say, I guess it's subjective, but it is.

Speaker 3 You know, the number one cause of bankruptcy is medical debt. Interesting.
So it's not just a problem of student loans, it's medical bills too.

Speaker 3 We have so much that we need to take a look at and fix. I mean, the bureaucracies, again, the subsidies drive up prices to unaffordable situations.

Speaker 3 You know, before Obamacare, we actually had a thing in this country called charity care

Speaker 3 where there was actually free health care in just about every single state. And so Obamacare actually destroyed that.
Wow.

Speaker 6 That's nuts. I never heard about healthcare.
So it was free health care?

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's called charity care.

Speaker 6 Wow. And they got rid of that.
Yeah. So there's no more free health care issues.

Speaker 6 Healthcare right now, I mean, I pay $900 a month. Most people cannot afford that.
And even I'm still coming out of pocket all the time. You know what I mean? It's crazy.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, that must be 10 times more expensive than I was when I was a kid.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it's nuts. And I was under my mom and thankfully until 26.
But like. Even at 26, most people are living paycheck to paycheck.
You know, they can't afford like medical insurance.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So we really need to restore all those things.
We need to pull back all that bureaucracy, all the basically too big of a government, the higher taxes.

Speaker 3 People need quality of life and they're just being drained. They have no money.
They're working around the clock.

Speaker 3 Their kids are being forced to be basically indoctrinated in schools that they can't control.

Speaker 3 I mean, healthcare is out of control. Everything is.

Speaker 3 it's Trump can't save everyone. He can't just look at one person.
We all have to participate. We all need to do our part.

Speaker 3 We need to talk to our local politicians at state level and at the federal level because it takes the whole community to be involved.

Speaker 6 Yeah, yeah, we got some work to do. Well, thanks, Michael, for doing this mission.
I hope people can support you. Where can everyone find you and follow you and everything?

Speaker 3 Sure. Our website is michaelcarbonara.com.

Speaker 3 The social media sites, everything's right there, linked to the website. And we'll let X, Instagram, and I think Facebook.

Speaker 6 Awesome. Check them out, guys.
And if you're in Broward County, Broward County. Broward County.
85th District of Florida.

Speaker 6 Go ahead and vote for him when the time comes. Thanks for your time, man.

Speaker 3 Yeah, thank you very much. All right.

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