Dan Khan: 27-Year-Old Millionaire Exposes Western Brainwashing & Modern Society. | DSH #1654

What would happen in Dubai if someone wanted to change their genders? What would they do?

If they wanted to change their genders. Yeah, become trans.
Bro, I don't even think that person would want to live in Dubai.

You know?

But I think if you asked for surgery and stuff, I think you could, bro. Really? Because I know they're against it, right? No, what Dubai is against, it's against you propagating the message.

They're not against you being gay behind closed doors. Oh, really? No.

All right, guys. All the way from Dubai.
Don Khan. 25-hour flight.
Yeah, 25 hours. Holy crap.
Well,

thanks for that, man. That's a long journey.
So it means a lot that you take the time to do that. For those that don't know who you are, could you give a little brief summary? Yeah, my name is Dan.

I'm 27 years old. And

just I started like five years ago, this online space. I run a marketing agency.
I help coaches, consultants, digital product creators scale their businesses with office and copywriting.

That's what I do. How long have you been doing that for?

Since I was 21, 22, so five, six years. Wow.
Was it successful right away? No, not at all. So my starting point was very different than a lot of agency owners.
So I started with affiliate marketing.

That was my big thing and what helped me get out of college. So do you want a whole story?

Yeah, we could walk through it. Because I think my audience, they might not know you since you're from Dubai.
It's international, right? Yeah.

So in 2020, 29,

whatever. I'm almost 21.
I was studying electrical engineering in Singapore. So I'm originally from Singapore.
And

I went to college because of my parents, basically. I didn't want to go.
But they said like electrical engineering was a very good career and stuff like that.

So I told them, like, okay, but if I graduate, I'm not going to become an engineer because I hate it. So while I was studying, I googled the salary of an electrical engineer in Singapore.
Classic.

So I was like, it was 3.5K a month. That's nothing.
So in four years, I'm going to graduate with this safe degree and make 3.5K. I was like, no way, right?

So I started to look for other ways to make money online. And at that same period of time, my mom also got sick.

That really drove me to want to make this work because I saw how important money is when you get sick with like cancer and stuff, right?

So I started to Google how to make money online, then I started to fall into dropshipping and all those other things.

But long story short, I found a mentor that taught affiliate marketing.

And

he said you could sell other people's products and make a commission. And you don't need your own products.
I was like, okay, that's a perfect starting point for me then.

And I learned how to do paid advertising with other people's products.

So I made my like 10K a month in nine months of doing it. Then I dropped out of college.
Then I went on to 30k and then 100k a month.

But why I started the agency model after that was because I found that with affiliate marketing and you're doing paid ads, you don't really build a brand or there's no fulfillment in it.

You're just making money. Okay, so you find the right ad, the right product, and that's it.
And since I was like looking at all these different ads that worked with different offers,

I think I at least a thousand ads and thousand products I've I've checked and researched.

And I knew exactly what converted with cold traffic. And now you're running ads.
So cold traffic is a different ballgame, right?

So

I knew exactly what type of VSLs, what type of ads work for which type of industry. And my friend, he came to me and he said, like, he's trying to make an offer and stuff.

I said, let me try and make one for him. So he was in the business opportunity space.
And I built an offer from scratch for him, the VSL, the offer, the ads.

And he immediately started making $1,000 a day. So I was like, I got a lot of fulfillment from that because I'm helping someone instead of just making money.

So I started to expand out to other people. He started to refer me and I started creating offers and ads for different people and I did copywriting for them.

And slowly I realized like, I love this B2B model and I'm going to keep it. So that's how the agency started.

B2B is the move, right? Yeah. Yeah, I feel like the margins are higher too.
Margins are higher. The complaint rate is very low.
Facts. You know, consumers are different, bro.
Yeah.

High ticket, too, right? High ticket B2B. Yeah.
Yeah. So high ticket's the move.
It definitely is. Yeah.

Barely any refunds, barely any complaints, as long as your product's good, your service is good. I still till today, I have zero refunds on my

only have two in two years. Exactly.
Two and a half years. It's the quality of the person is so different, bro.
Yeah. Yeah.
If you're selling to B2C $9.95 or $12.95, like small, low ticket, even $900,

bro, you get so many refunds. And you also get so many complaints.

It's as if they don't know what they bought.

Fact. You know, like then they act like everything is on you and nothing's on them anymore.
So I hate the B2C model for me. I do work with a lot of B2C companies, but that's for myself, B2B.

I'm good on that. Yeah, I used to do e-commerce and dropshipping.
I'll never do it again. No? No.
The margins and the work, it's too much work for the margin. It is.
What is the margins?

Do you remember? E-commerce, dude, it's low. It's like 10 to 20.
Depends on how many ads you're running and your V funds. But you got a factor in the inventory, too.
It's crazy.

How much money gets tied up in inventory? But dropshipping, you don't really have inventory. Well, you start off dropshipping, but then once you build the brand out, you start carrying inventory.

Yeah. Okay, makes sense.

So you're in Dubai now. How long have you been out there?

A year and a half. Oh, so brand new? Yeah, pretty new.
Yeah. One year and a half ago, yeah, I moved from Singapore to Dubai.
Mainly because,

okay, so the thing about Singapore is very similar to Dubai okay it's a big it's a nice city it's very safe there's money out there but the money is mainly from Chinese people it's from China so they're from China they come here to Singapore and that's where the money is there's not many of me in Singapore okay

so I thought of like moving to somewhere and

my friend Philip he was in Dubai and he said bro you should come to Dubai where you can meet all these people and I was pretty comfortable in Singapore I'm not going to lie, but I wanted to grow.

I wanted to meet new people. I wanted to expand.
I wanted to,

you know, increase my net worth. And I thought the best place to do it is in Dubai.
So for no other reason, even Texas is Singapore is not that bad. So just for that reason, I moved to Dubai.

And was it worth it? Very worth it. Yeah.
I'm sure you met some good people out there. Yeah, because it's the network, right? It's all about the network.
I've met Dan Henry, Philip Ty, I don't know.

Gazi's out there too. Gaji's out there too.
Yeah, and then Ramin, I don't think you know him, but he's also a big e-comm guy.

And then from them, I meet many other referrals, like from other people. And my network just grew from there.
And I form a lot of partnerships, equity deals, which is pretty good too. Let's go.

Let's go. You're young, man.
How old are you? 27. Holy crap.
You dating?

Getting married out there? Me? Yeah. I have a girlfriend.
Yeah. Oh, nice.
I have a girlfriend, yeah. I'm getting married next month.
Really? We're getting to that age, man. 27's getting up there.

You're 27? I'm 28. 28, 96.
97. 97.
97, yeah. So you're 98.
Okay, congratulations, man. Yeah.
You met your girl out there, though? Or you brought it from yourself?

So it's funny, I met my girl on a podcast. Wow.
So I have a podcast too in Dubai. And she was one of your guests? She is one of my guests.

Yo, you hit on your own guest?

I was like, yeah, she's pretty nice.

Crazy part is you're not the first podcaster that's told me that. Really? Yeah.
Yeah. Other people that do that.
And my friend Ryan met his girl on his podcast. Yeah.

Because from the podcast, you learn a lot about the person. Podcasts are intimate, dude.
Yeah. Yeah.
You're getting to know someone for an hour. For sure.
You know? So she just,

what did she do? Is she an e-commerce? She's a copywriter. Okay.
Yeah. So

she's also in the same, she's a freelance. So I have an agency.
She's a freelance. So she helps people write ads like you.

Yeah, she helped with my ads. So her copy won you over.

You can say that too. Yeah.
I bet my copy won it over.

That's funny, dude. You also served in the military.
so that was in Singapore?

You have to do a year over there, right?

Two years. Two years.
Two years compulsory for every man. Wow.
Every guy. So at 18, you went to 19? Yeah, 19.
So 19 to 21, you have to serve. And

initially, I was like, why the fuck am I even doing this?

Like, why do I have to go into the military? I'm being forced to do it. I wasn't looking forward to it, to be honest, because I don't even like people telling me what to do.
Right.

And then they shaved my head off, you know? Wow. They shaved everything off.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So in the first day, I was so depressed, bro, in the military.
And everyone else is depressed.

So that does not make it any better, seeing everyone else sad. But then I thought to myself, like, since I'm here for two years, I might as well try to enjoy it, you know?

And then since I'm a very like

sociable person, I got along with a lot of people, made a lot of bros. And when you put a bunch of guys, together you know every single day, you're gonna fuck around.

You're gonna have a lot of fun. It's inevitable, right? So,

yeah, I didn't. I just enjoyed it, actually.
I enjoyed the training. I enjoyed serving.

Would I sign on and stay on as a

veteran? No. But those two years taught me a lot about discipline and

how to be loyal to your friends. Loyalty is a big thing.
So there was a big snitching, not culture, but...

So I remember in the military, there were people who smoked, right? Yeah. And you could only smoke in these yellow boxes in the military downstairs.

And some people, they didn't want to ask for permission because you only get like three a day. So they would smoke in the toilet, right? And that's illegal, of course.

And

he got caught, okay?

He got caught because there's a buddy system.

And every person has a buddy. And his buddy snitched on him

to the sergeant. So the sergeant came down, he called everyone down, all do push-ups and all that nonsense, the punishment.
And then after the words, he said, why did you snitch on him?

Like, he's your friend, like, he's your buddy. Why did you, if you didn't tell me, I wouldn't have known, right? So, he made an example of that guy that

you shouldn't be snitching on your brothers anyway. It's just a small thing, right? It's just smoking, doesn't matter.
So, I really brought that into my life as well.

Like, loyalty to the close people, I think that's really important. Yeah, snitches get stitches, snitches get stitches for sure.
Yeah, he got stitches for sure.

I'm sure it helped your mindset and your perspective for sure, right?

Yeah, I've it's also pretty, pretty sad like i saw some people take their own life instead yeah because holy shit you have to know if you're not sociable you're alone and you're alone in that camp you're stuck there you can't go home yeah so you know some people they can't handle it did you get uh deployed anywhere were you all just training on in singapore all all in singapore yeah all in singapore it's a private island for us yeah yeah i've never been out there but i've heard good things man it's good but it's very expensive yeah it's really expensive it's more expensive than to buy because they got to import everything yeah it's uh we have not enough land as well so everything's very expensive so like um

i think this room let's say a size of your house is this room and uh you rented it it would be about

five thousand four five thousand a month holy shit just for this room yeah that is awful that is necessarily fit like bro it's much it's really expensive in singapore yeah so you got to make a lot of money to live there yeah um but the thing is people live on loans there so everyone's in debt so everything's so expensive but loan accessibility is very good.

So

you know who wins in the end, right? The bank, the government, you know. So I don't want to go into that.
But yeah. So your parents were pretty successful, though, or were they living off loans too?

No,

I think every Singaporean has a loan. Wow.
Yeah, every Singaporean. It's impossible to buy cash.
Holy shit.

My parents were fortunate enough to have a pretty good job, middle class, maybe a little bit above middle class.

And they gave me a good life. Yeah, I'm really grateful for my parents.
Yeah, I mean, too. They did well.
You became a millionaire at 25. I mean, they did not support the

dropping out of college at that time. But I'll tell you what.
No Asians do. Yeah, no Asians do.
But all things considered, they're pretty happy. Yeah, my mom was pissed.
Yeah.

Yeah, I was like really not looking forward to that conversation, to be honest. Same.
But I wanted to at least have a track record. So I started the business and had some revenue.
Same.

I only showed them like

10K a month. After I showed them that, then I told them I wanted to drop out.
Right. Because then it makes sense.

And Sean, I always tell people, like, there's a lot of young guys out, oh, my parents really want me to go to college, really want me to do this. They don't believe in me.

And I always tell them, like, why should they? Have you given them a reason to believe in you?

Are you at home playing video games, smoking weed every single day? And then you complain that your parents don't believe in you

and give you the safest path possible.

Because if you don't study, you're probably going to play video games and smoke weed. Right.

So that's what I always tell people. You know, college is unnecessary.
I believe in that. But you have to give

your parents a reason why you should drop out. 100%.
Right. You have to show that you have work ethic, right? You can't just be in the room the whole day.
No, show them something.

Even if it's like $1,000 a month, show them at least some sort of effort, right?

For sure. Yeah.
Yeah, because

for their generation, college is what got them out of poverty. Exactly.
Same with my family, right? But it doesn't work that way anymore. No, things are changing.
Now it's all internet.

All internet, yeah. You can learn anything from the internet.
Bro, everything is.

YouTube is free yeah when i was like in college like a lot of information was gatekept so you had to pay for it in a course but now i feel like you can learn so much just for free 100 yeah youtube there's eight hour courses now people are putting out eight hour courses there's udemy right but

but i've always like uh bought courses from mentors and and online figures yeah that was what i related to the most what was the best course you bought oh it has to be the affiliate marketing course that i bought at the start yeah

no no no Me and Phil met in the mentorship itself. Got it.
Yeah. So, but that was

Jonathan. His name was Jonathan, but he's not around anymore.
He basically took all the money and retired in Bali. A lot of guys, those affiliate courses, guys are like that, right? Yep.

A lot of them. Yeah.
Yeah, there's some OGs that they made so much of courses that they're chilling now. They're chilling.
It depends where you live, right? He's in Bali.

Yeah, Alex Becker, I feel like, is a good example. Dan DeSilva, you remember him? Yeah.

E-com guy. He was cool.

Yeah, Ty Lopez. I mean, he's in trouble right now.
I don't know if you saw that. Yeah, 112 million, right? Yeah, it's not looking good.

Have you spoken to him?

I've had him on the show. I haven't spoken to him about the lawsuit, but

man, that one looks rough. I met Ty

in

France for Mastermind. I actually spoke to him.
It's really good. I mean, he's a smart guy.
He's a smart guy. Yeah, you can't...
dog on him on that, right?

But, you know, the investments he made. I also was questioning why he came back to the social media space after he disappeared.
Now I kind of know why, you know.

You got to be careful when you raise money. Very.
Yeah, but at the same time, there has to be accountability for the investors because any investment, you might lose your money. Yeah.
Right.

So I read the thing, the article. Now it's all alleged.
You know, I want to see what happens. But if he did pocket the 16 mil for himself, that's pretty fucked up.
Yeah. Yeah.

But other than that, that does not take away from the knowledge I gained from Ty, right?

I may not agree with what

he's done here, which is obviously wrong. But I think people nowadays, they get very

sucked into this influencer guru world where everything I have to agree with 100% of whatever he says, or I disagree with everything he says.

So one of the biggest things for me is I don't... worship any influencers or celebrities.

So I just take what I want or what I hear that are good things from them and I implement it and the bad things I don't implement it.

So if Andrew Tate came out and did something horrible and even though I like the guy, I'm not going to get affected by it. Because at the end of the day, these people are all just human, bro.
Yeah.

They're all fallible, right? They are people that would defend celebrities for no reason. Just because they love the way they act or they love the way they sing.

Even if they cheated on their boyfriend, they did anything wrong, they would defend them no matter what. Why?

Phenomenal advice.

So many people have an emotional attachment to someone, someone right exactly or to some former government like you see with the israel war right now for sure yeah and before i get into that there are people that respect celebrities and influences more than their parents bro dude yeah which is so sad that's sad yeah especially in the west i saw a tick tock the other day about these young kids they talked about how

Their parents don't owe them anything. They're the ones that brought them into the world.
So it's their responsibility to take care of you. Wow.
So you don't really have to be grateful.

It's a very gen z talk you know and i was really pissed off about that because at the end of the day at the day we don't have to agree with everything your parents say but and but they still tried their best to raise you they give you a good life the food shelter everything

you can call that the bare minimum all you want but then there are people in gaza who don't even have the bare minimum anymore yeah perspective and they still love their parents more than you do so I think it's a really big problem nowadays.

Perspective, right?

That's why travel is so important, getting exposed to other cultures and communities for sure because people don't know what they have they take it for granted yeah and to tie back into the the israel thing what do you want to say about that well just people will just say one side is right on every single thing you know what i mean like you said earlier they they can't see any bad in one side and that's toxic for sure so the problem with this israel thing okay

I think it's very hard to defend their position. If you're defending Israel, it's very, very hard.
Because what they have done

is indefensible. You destroy 95% of hospitals, you bomb Qatar, you kill women and children, and you say everything is Hamas.

And then I would like to ask the audience as well. There's a very big thing of people supporting Israel because they're Christians.

I'm sure you've heard that argument before. The holy sites protect the holy sites.

Yeah, protect the holy sites and because Israel is in the bible and that's why they have to to support israel yeah so if the government of israel was started killing christians do you have to support israel

if you're a christian that that would not make sense that would not make sense right so it's not an undying uh support of this country just because of the bible and the next thing is

israel

The Israel with Gaza was very, very interesting. Because October 7 happened, which was horrible, of course, right? Hamas, they did what they did.
But then people always start the story from there.

Whereas before that, just that year alone, Israel killed 500 Palestinians.

And the years before that, they also did that.

And the biggest thing you can trip people up on is the formation of Israel in 1948. So what they did was the British government, they said you can have this land.

They came in, they displaced the Palestinians, right?

So what they did, they came to the Palestinians and the Palestinians were like, yeah, you can come, seek refuge in my house and stuff, and then they kicked them out of the house. So

the start of formation of Israel, that is already a big problem. Because what you do at that time, it leaks on for generations.

What do you think the parents are going to, the parents that got kicked out are going to tell their kids? And what are the kids going to tell their kids?

So this hatred will continue forever because of that one event and then now you want to say oh but hamas did this to us right but what about what you did to them the formation of the country and then there's another thing where people say oh but all these countries don't want to take in the palestinians which is also true by the way so there are two things number one it is their land so why why do you why do they have to take them in right this is their land they should get the right to it and number two is

i feel like the arab world the middle east they also want the Gazans there because they poke Israel.

So they're the only ones having a thorn in Israel's side, is having Gaza there and Iran supporting them. So it's kind of a two-pronged situation there.

But at the end of the day, you know, it's really sad what's going on. I've seen the videos.
I've seen everything.

I don't see how people could...

support Israel in that. Yeah, that is sad, man.
I'm sure being in Dubai, you see a lot of people talking about it, right? Yeah. A lot of Muslims over there.
A lot of Muslims talking about it.

A lot of Christians talking about it as well. A lot of yeah man i just don't understand how you can

support this kind of thing you know and especially as christians in uh america you're taught to like you know be more forgiving and taught more love and stuff and then you support this kind of action it's it's insane to me yeah it's nuts dude i can't stop seeing it everywhere it's like i feel like it's almost intentional right because there's so many wars going on but that's the one they just push down everyone's throat for sure right and the thing is like um

with the Palestinians, I feel like the world, the West has done a very good job of dehumanizing Muslims and dehumanizing Palestinians.

So when one Palestinian dies,

doesn't, it's just a number on the headline, right? 60,000 people die. Like, okay, but if 12 white people died in America, that's a big headline.
It's a big thing.

So I think Dan Belzirin, he talked about it. He said in the army,

they used to use all these terms, sand monkeys, camel fuckers, goat fuckers, and to label these people so that when they die,

you don't feel any sort of remorse for them. They're less than human, basically.
100%. Right? So, is there anything to change? I don't know.
The brainwashing has gone a bit too far right now.

The programming of all the movies, right? Yeah, for sure. And the sad thing is with the Gaza.

I've never said this before on camera, but

I feel like if the objective is to

keep as many Palestinians alive, they have to leave. Really? They have to leave.
Wow. Because how are they going to beat Israel and America, bro? They don't even have an army, right?

People can cheer on. So the West or people like me, we can cheer on the Palestinians all we want, but they can't win.

this war no matter what we don't they don't have the weapons for it they have the spirit but spirit alone can get can only get you so far bro yeah so what i'm saying is if they want to survive and they want to keep the women and children from dying,

then you have to leave the area.

But then you can say that's exactly what they want, right? That's exactly what Israel wants from them. So, but it's then, do you want them to stay and then keep dying? Is that better than leaving?

I don't know. Yeah, because they've lost already millions, right? They lost, bro.
70% of infrastructure is gone. 95% of hospitals are gone.
Jesus. So, even if they're injured in the war, they die.

Wow.

So

to prevent casualties, the only thing I would say is to leave. But at the same time, it's fucked up to say that.
Yeah, it's like pick your poison, right? Yeah.

Like leave now and prevent more deaths or stay. Or stay.
Yeah. Either way, you lose.
Yeah. Either way, you lose, bro.
Yeah. Because in one end, you lose more of your people.

And the other end, you have to leave the country. Yeah.
Well, you could say you could leave and then later on

fight back for the land.

It's a tricky spot.

That's a tricky spot either way, right? Do you pay a lot of attention to politics or you kind of just stay out of it? I pay a lot of attention to it.

A lot of US politics mainly, because it's the most entertaining as well. Yeah, definitely.

It's like a clown show.

And also what happens in the US happens to all other countries.

A lot of people, like Americans, they say you're not American, so you shouldn't talk about American politics. To an extent, I do agree.

But what they don't realize is the culture affects everywhere else.

So, if you want to talk about feminism, right, it started in the West, yeah, and it spread to Asia, it spread to Middle East. Oh, it spread to Asia, oh, yeah, for sure.
What?

Those girls used to be so innocent, yeah. I mean, it spread to Asia because I'm gonna give you this

in Singapore, it's supposed to be a conservative country, yeah, okay.

Now it still is, but you can see it's shifting, right?

Um, feminism came in, liberalism came in. The problem with a lot of these asian countries they look at the west as a moral

like compass like a moral compass which is very weird right they look at american media they look at how people act and they think like i want to be like them you know and what that happens is these people start to start to adapt or adopt their ideologies and they start spreading so when you have big feminist figures, when you have porn stars having their own podcasts,

you get people listening from all over the world. And Singapore is a very Western country in itself, despite its conservative values.
A lot of the culture is Western. All our movies are Western.

Music is Western. I listen to, you know, Green Day, Rod Stewart, Brian Adams,

I listen to all of that stuff.

So they have a very big impact in the country. And feminism has infiltrated the country itself.
And it's mainly the women that, you know, fall into this trap of listening to all this nonsense and um

yeah i think looking at the west as a moral compass is a very bad thing that's when i looked at more of american politics i was like i have to really pay attention because whenever i see um prominent media figure in singapore talk about feminism talk about liberalism i'm just like you sound like a parrot for us politics yeah so you're exactly the same talking points right um so it kind of loses the conservative uh values but the thing is i don't think it will get get that far in Singapore.

I had no idea our influence was global to the point of view. It is global.

That's crazy to me. It is 100% global.
I do hear that other countries say that they follow our lead, but I never knew to that magnitude of feminism spreading towards Asia.

Yeah, it is really, really big, man. That's crazy.
Even in Singapore, there's debates going on about feminism

on podcasts.

men versus women, the same gender war. Not as bad as here, I think.
Yeah, but we still do have it. Yeah, so it's reaching the Muslim communities too, then.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.

But Muslims are less affected by it. Yeah, they seem to be very...
Because our moral compass comes from God. It doesn't come from Western ideologies.
Right. It comes from religion.

It comes from religion, exactly. So it's very dangerous when...
So, like, if you asked me, would I identify as liberal or conservative?

I would just say I'm just Muslim. You know, I wouldn't label myself as any of these human ideologies.
I wonder where Muslims that live in America fall on that political spectrum on average.

I think if I were to, if someone didn't know the word Islam or Muslim, I would just tell people I'm conservative. And I think that's what most Americans would fall under.

But the problem with, I think, the conservatives in America,

it's more pro-Israel. Yeah, yeah.
Right? I mean, both sides are, but we definitely have a lot on the right, on the conservative side that are, yeah. Yeah.
Because of Trump. Because of Trump, yeah.

Yeah, Trump's very pro-Israel. Exactly.
So I think that's where the misconception comes in.

But when you start to identify yourself as a feminist, a liberal, a conservative, you are matching yourself to man-made ideologies. So it can never be perfect.

So if you're Christian, you should just say, I'm Christian. I'm not conservative.
I'm just Christian. Or I'm Muslim, I'm just Muslim.

Because even red pill, like you would think I agree with a lot of things. They're probably right about a lot of things, but I wouldn't identify myself as a red pill person.
Yeah.

You know, because there's still flaws. Some human created it.
so that means it's there will be flaws

yeah yeah you're right that's a very interesting way of looking at it it's not objective right because a human created it so exactly emotional attachment that's why all these isms fight each other because it's human create created and it's subjective

well the religions fight each other too though right that's true but at the same time is each religion has a compass to point to where it's objective.

But if you're debating all the isms, it's all subjective.

There's no one thing that tells you that this is the right thing to do.

It's what you think is the right thing to do.

Yeah. Like the red pill, when it comes to describing

problems in the society, I think they do a very good job with that. With the solutions, I don't think so.
Yeah.

Like no voting rights for a woman. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think they go a little bit too far. Like sleeping with 50 women.
Like you don't have to sleep with 50 women to know they're a whole bro.

Yeah, I was never a a fan of that method. Sleeping around.
It never resonated with me. It

didn't fit right with me anyway. Yeah, and you're a guy that had that option, right? You had all this money.
Yeah,

I've been in that position where I went on dating, like chasing women at some point, but I never went too far because I always thought, bro, this is actually a waste of time, man. Yeah.

That's the biggest thing. So many guys spend 40 hours a week dating.
It's crazy. Like on women.
Spend time with children. If you're broke, especially, you shouldn't be like.
Hell no.

You shouldn't date if you're broke. You shouldn't date.
Unless like you know, she's the one. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. If you met your high school sweetheart, that's different.
That's different.

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For sure. Yeah.
And don't date a feminist. Yeah.
Yeah. My girlfriend, she's totally not a feminist.
Oh, that's dope. Yeah, she's not.
She's not compromised.

No, you cannot compromise. She has a lot of opinions.
But she's very like,

she's also Muslim.

So that makes it easy.

She's also more conservative. Yeah.
So it makes it super easy to date her. And the problem with feminism, I'm sure you've heard of this.

It's called the force doctrine. Have you heard of it? I feel like I have.
So men have the monopoly on force, right?

So that means

everything in the world right now, if men say they allow it, then it will happen. If they say they don't allow it, then it will happen.
So let's just say men didn't want women to vote.

There's nothing women can do about it to not make that happen. Because ultimately

it goes down to violence. That's the underpinning of society, right? So if shit goes like to the fan, if men versus women and men said women couldn't vote, then they can't vote.

So at the end of the day, feminism and feminists still appeal to men authority. to get their rights.

So women empowerment in itself doesn't make any sense. Does that mean I don't want women to vote? No.
But I think like

good men should lead the world and then you get and then women are protected. They get all the rights they have.

And then it's a very cohesive environment. Because when you have bad men leading, that's when you get into all the shit.
Yeah. You know, and weak men.

But you have good, strong, benevolent men, then you get a really good world. And I don't think women will have any problems with that as well.

Yeah, that's the issue we're in now, weak men, a bunch of simps everywhere. Bro, simps are the biggest problem of the world, bro.
I think they're terrible. Yeah, weak men create tough times, right?

That's the saying. Weak men create tough times.
Tough times create strong men, right? I think we're in that phase right now. Yeah, for sure.

I do see the pendulum swinging back a lot. Yeah.
Because of Tate, Trump,

all the prominent media figures,

they all lean more towards conservative, right?

And these traditional values. So I do see the pendulum swinging.
But at the same time, you know, I'm not out here trying to fix the world. I don't think it will fix itself.

At the end of it, have you?

I want you to think about this, okay? So, liberalism in itself, I'm not that concerned about it. In my lifetime, your lifetime, you find a girl that matches your values, it's done.

But if you're thinking, I need to fix the world in 100 years, 200 years,

liberalism by itself will go extinct. Because what does it teach?

It teaches women not to have children, it teaches LGBT, transgenderism, it teaches you you not to have kids, not to have many kids, right? What do all these things lead to? Extinction.

Right?

Transgenderism, LGBT,

not having kids. It all leads to your generation not being able to continue.
So that means in 100 years, it's only the conservatives. It's only people with traditional values that will be there.

So it doesn't matter. Interesting.
So it'll kill itself. It'll kill itself.
Right. But that's why they want your kids.

That's why they want to propagate their message to other other people's children so they can get as many as many as many of you of you as possible.

But at the end of the day, they they won't win. So I'm not really concerned with all their shit.
Yeah. What would happen in Dubai if someone wanted to change their genders? What would they do?

If they wanted to change their genders. Yeah, become trans.
Bro, I don't even think that person would want to live in Dubai.

You know?

But I think if you asked for surgery and stuff, I think you could, bro. Really? Because I know they're against it, right? They are against it.
They're against...

No, what Dubai is against, it's against you propagating the message. They're not against you being gay behind closed doors.
Oh, really? No.

You can't kiss in public, though. No, but this goes for men and women.
Okay. Yeah, I can't even hold my girlfriend's hand in public.
Oh, what? Yeah, yeah. No public display of affection.

What do you think about that?

I think it's fine, bro. I don't think...
I never showed too much love in public, to be honest. Yeah, but...
I hold my hand. I hold her hand, but nothing like that.

i think holding hand in dubai it's you still be fine but it's just to prevent you from the slippery slope right you get from holding hands to turn you on a little time yeah exactly kissing fucking in the back of the car you know you don't want to get to that point and then um also it makes it easier like same-sex couples they they don't show um public display display of affection got it and that's for everyone so it's it's universal and i'm sure americans they they always look at dubai as this evil place It's painted very negatively here.

Yeah. Well, any Muslim.
You could say any Muslim country, honestly, is painted negatively here. For sure.
But Dubai is, have you been there? No, I want to go.

Next year, I'm going to try to go to Saudi as well. Oh, Saudi, yeah, I have to say that.
Elite League conference is out there. Yeah, bro.

They are developing because they don't focus on stupid shit, bro. Yeah.
They have one leader. They have a good leader.
That's it. Are there problems with the country? Of course, bro.

No country is perfect. None.
None. None.
It's just pick which one you want to live in. Which one suits your values.
If I was gay, I wouldn't live in the Middle East. Why would I do that?

But at least when I go to Dubai or Abu Dhabi, I have people around me that are only focused on making money.

Family, well, Dubai family is a bit different, but Dubai is a little bit of a sin city in a sense. Oh, really? Sometimes, yeah.
You can get sucked into that.

But there are a lot of families there as well, right? Super safe.

Bro, you can practice your religion any point in time. We don't have freedom of speech, and I'm okay with it.
You're okay with that? Very okay with it.

Well, you grew up in that environment, so you're probably used to it. You don't know what it feels like to have freedom of speech.
Okay, yeah. So I would push back on that a little bit.

So

in

an ideal setting, freedom of speech sounds very nice, right? Everyone gets to say whatever they want.

And you always hear this phrase getting thrown out, like freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequences. But if there's consequences, then it's not freedom of speech.
Agreed. Right.

Yeah, I agree. So if you're going to get shot, like Charlie Cook did, if you're going to lose your job, then do you really have freedom of speech? No.

So then you have people getting arrested in universities for protesting on Palestine. Yeah.
Is that freedom of speech?

So I'd rather live in a country where they tell you you don't have freedom of speech.

Interesting take. Then tell me I have and actually I don't.
Right. No, you're not wrong.
Yeah, we don't have freedom of speech based off what you're describing. Like there are consequences.

Yeah, consequences to it. Yeah, but

I think people feel like compared to other countries, at least they could say a little more. Does that make sense? Yeah.

But

what do you want to say, bro?

There's certain things I won't even say.

You know what I mean? I'll get in trouble with my reach and my platform. I'll get a phone call.
I'll get someone knocking on my door. Exactly.
I don't have like 100% freedom of speech. For sure.

So you're not wrong. Like Dan Bill Zerin got kicked out of his own board, I think.
Right. Yeah.
Because of his stance. There's no such thing, bro, as freedom of speech.
I never believed in it.

There'll always be consequences.

The only thing that America kind of needed is because you need...

The two sides need to fight each other, basically. Always.
Right?

The people at the top, they don't care. They just want you divided.
They want it, yeah. Yeah, they want it.
They love it. They love you guys fighting.

People can't see it. And the problem is, liberals are very loud.

Conservatives aren't that loud. And liberal people usually have, they look funny.
Yeah. They preach for very weird things.
So

go for very they go very viral viral yeah right um so if there was no freedom of speech if you shut out the conservative side you will have a big problem in the country so you kind of need freedom of speech in that sense but at the same time

you can't say certain things you can't say certain topics right especially with the war right now and tick tock just got acquired by a you know oh they did did you see who acquired it no Yeah, look that up.

Okay.

Look up how that all happened. Okay, very interesting.

So certain platforms will be more like even YouTube's strict on certain topics. Really? Yeah, did you know that? They banned Alex Jones.
They banned Nick Fuentes. Oh, yeah, Nick Fuentes.

They banned a bunch of people. And you can't talk about certain things.
Even during COVID, you couldn't talk about vaccines. Oh, that's stupid.

Could you talk about it where you were in Singapore? No. Okay.
No, at least you knew that you couldn't talk about it. Yeah, you know you can't talk about it.

We were told you can, and then we couldn't. You couldn't.

Exactly, yeah. But Singapore has like the highest vaccination rate of any country, 99.9%.
So you got to go over the vaccine? I got the government. Yeah, I had to get it.
You got all four? No, no, no.

Just, I think one or two. Okay.

That's not bad.

You'll stay alive. Yeah.

I didn't want to take it, bro. I didn't want to take it.
Yeah, but the problem is

they prevent you from going anywhere. Yeah.
Even to the supermarket. Oh, what? Yeah, you can't enter the mall.
Holy. You can't see your friend.
That's crazy.

So they make it really hard for you not to. So you kind of have to do it.
That's odds too. So that sucks in in that sense.
But

I mean, that's just the name of the game, right, in Singapore. You don't have freedom of speech, but at least you know.
Yeah. Yeah.
Damn. Well, you're in Dubai now, anyways.
Yeah.

You're going to move the parents over there or are they going to stay in Singapore?

My mom really loves Dubai, but

I told her, like, I can't spend all my time with you. You know, I have work to do as well.
I can meet you once a week, maybe. Sorry, mom.
Yeah, so I told her, like, it's very difficult to to

because I'm very big on relationships and like having friends. And if she comes to Dubai, all her friends are gone.
Right. And I don't want her to be alone.

Even if it's five, six days a week, it's not good for you. Prosperity.
Yeah. And then her house is already paid for in Singapore.
There's nothing, you know, there's nothing bad for them anymore.

So I told my parents, like, you should just stay in Singapore. I can always fly you to visit Dubai at any time.
You know, I flew them around the world. My mom is in Maldives now.
Wow.

Enjoying her life. Let's go.

go yeah so yeah i don't think they should come because their friends are there that's really important to me yeah there's a lot of studies on um like longevity and the friendship circle is very important for sure my close friends now uh since i've

since 17 bro 10 years yeah they're my closest friends yeah you talk about loyalty you're living that life yeah bro yeah yeah so five of us we are still very close um but also they proved that you know even i have money they would fight me over the bill bro really yeah they would fight me over over the bill.

So, you're the richest out of your friend group? I'm the richest out of my friend group, yeah.

They're all, they work normal jobs, wow, yeah, they're like, but they work good jobs, like bankers and stuff, yeah, yeah, but they are very, we are a very tight group, you know, and they've been there since day one.

When I wanted to drop out of college, they told me to drop out. They said, bro, you should go all in, right? Someone needs to be rich in our friend group.

So, when I needed photo shoots and stuff, my friend would help me out.

They would help me sell my stuff. Respect.
Yeah, so we are a very tight-knit group.

But nobody knows who they are except me. Oh, that's cool.
Yeah, you can't replace that ever. No.
Because now that you're at a certain level, you can't find people like that anymore. Not anymore.

It's very different, bro. It's all transactional at this point, right? It's all transactional.
I met a few good people in Dubai. I've met like 20, 30, 50, maybe business owners.

Three of them became my close friends. You know, there's this...
You have to be very careful who you let in, bro. Yeah.
Very careful. Because sometimes they fuck you over.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Whenever it's transactional, you know, they're going to see you as a dollar sign. 100%.

How much money can I make off this person? Exactly. And when the dollar sign stops, then you know their loyalty stops.
Yeah, they stop texting you. Exactly.
Then it hurts. Yeah.
Yeah.

You gotta, I personally keep friendship and business separate. I know some people can make it work, but I keep it so it depends.

So my friends now, I will never do business with them, the close friends. Yeah.

But they're not interested in it

at all. But like the other friends, we

some of them are my clients first. Right.
Then we became friends.

And then business meetings and sorry, networking events, We become friends there.

Yeah. They hire me for copywriting services and stuff.
We do become friends and also,

you know, clients in that sense. I can see that.
Yeah. But 50-50 partners, I've never done that.

Never works. Never works.
Yeah, never works. In my experience, I'm sure someone made it work.
For sure, some people make it work.

We're just always constantly changing and evolving, and I'm trying to grow so fast. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Some people can't keep up with that.

Your biggest... So this podcast is your business model?

Yeah, this is my active income. I have like investments.
I'm big in crypto and stuff.

But for active income, this is my biggest business.

I met a guy called Warren, Warren Shaw the other day, and he said he knew you. He sounds familiar.
He said in 2021, you were into NFTs and stuff. Yes.
I was like, I didn't know that about Sean.

Yeah, I made $2.4 million in 18 minutes when I started an NFT, and I'll never forget that day.

Was that like the first side hustle you tried? That was, I think that was the first time I became like an on-paper millionaire.

Because people say net worth with their companies, but like actual liquid millionaire. So that was a big moment for me.
It must be crazy, this crypto money, bro. Bro, it's fucking nuts.

I've made and lost seven figures in a day. Like both times.
Like I've made it, lost it, made it, lost it. Do you feel like

this crypto, like the fast money, it's bad at the same time because it goes really fast.

If you make money fast, you'll find a way to lose it just as fast that's what i've realized about life yeah it's some some energetic thing i can't explain it but if you're not

if you don't earn that money like the right way you'll you'll lose it look at lottery winners oh yeah they lose 80 of them lose it yeah they go back straight to where they were before it could be a hundred million dollars they'll still figure out how to lose it so you need the discipline you need the right people around you there's a lot that goes into it yeah for sure so when i made millions young in crypto like yeah i lost it all lost ten million dollars

crazy yeah

Yeah, I lost 10 mil. But if I were to make 10 mil now, I don't think I'd lose it.
Yeah, you keep it. I know all the right people, the right stuff to invest in.
I got a family now. I'm not as risky.

For sure. You know, back then, they call it a D-Gen.
D-Gen. I'm a straight D-Gen.
Day trading crypto, meme coins, and all that shit. It's big in Dubai.
Oh, it's big. The crypto culture.

Same with Singapore. Singapore's huge.
A lot of the guys I used to talk to were in those countries. All the conventions in Singapore.

Yeah, token 2049. I need to go to that.

There's one in Dubai, I think, too. I'm going to get out there next year.
I'll hit you up. For sure, man.
I'll schedule a day to film out there. Let's do it.

I'm sure there's a lot of interesting people. A lot.
There's one guy out there that owns a zoo in his backyard. Oh, yes.

He hit me up. So I'm going to interview him and pet a lion or whatever afterwards.
Fucking crazy, voice. We've seen that guy, right? Yeah, yeah.
We've seen him. I forget his name.

Philip, I think his landlord drove him around the palm. Oh, yeah.
And then he said, this was the guy that has the zoo. Crazy.
And I was like, there's like all sorts of animals inside there. Crazy.

Yeah. But some of these guys in Dubai, they have such crazy money, bro.
Crazy. They buy 200 million, not just the shakes, but like business owners, like Indians, 200 million houses.
They buy cash.

Wow. Yeah.
It's like a $200 million house. Yeah.
And then they buy like

two more houses for their kids with cash as well. Yeah.
Yeah. There's a lot of money that flies around, bro.
That's nuts. Yeah.
What do you feel fulfilled with when it comes to spending money?

Like, are you pretty materialistic? Not really. I think this watch is the nicest thing I have.
The Speedmaster. Yeah.

I don't really spend my money that much. Never been that kind of guy.
I'm more into

hanging out with my friends. I think that's what brings me the most joy.
And then spending money with my parents, my girlfriend, those kind of things bring me the most.

Experiences. Experiences, yeah.
I'm the same. I went through a little materialistic phase too, though.
Yeah. When I was younger.
Bought watches, bought cars and dumb shit. Yeah.

I've never been into... Like, do I want those things? Yeah, but after I've done my investments, then I will do.
So I have people in Instagram.

they will say, like, oh, you make this money, but you don't have a car. I don't believe you.
So, I'm like, doesn't matter, bro. It doesn't matter.

Because at the end of the day, I prioritize my future family and my investments first. Yeah.
Yeah. I, when I first made my 10K a month, I did spend it like 30K.

I thought I was like, you know, the shit. Yeah, spending it.

But after a while, I realized online money, it comes fast, but it can go really fast. Oh, yeah.
Bro, this space in Dubai, I've met people that made millions and then they disappear, bro.

I've seen so many people come and go over the years. Bro, they come and go like nothing.
A majority of them go. You think they kept all their money, but they didn't.
A majority of them did not, yeah.

Yeah. I've seen it being in the space for 10 years now.

I could probably name on one hand who I've seen made it this long, 10 years in the info space. Yeah.

It's very rare, bro. Very rare.
Have you ever spoken to like Dean Graziosi and Dean's been on the show? Been on the show. He's been a long time, right? He's an OG.
Him, Tony Robbins, I would say.

But even a lot of the top guys are struggling now. Like Grant Cardone just announced he's closing his conference.

10x conference? Yeah. He's closing it.

Russell Brunson just shut down his conference.

Ah, yeah.

So it's a tough space right now, dude. It is very compelling.
Customers are very skeptical. Very skeptical.
Yeah. That's why I'm also building my personal brand now.
You have to. Yeah, I have to.

I realized that after a while, I was like, I kind of have to. Yeah, I mean, I'm doing six figures a month just off my personal brand and organic.
You know what I mean? That's crazy.

So it's like a long game.

Like, it took me 10 years to build it to this point but it's worth it yeah the only thing about organic is i didn't get into it because it wasn't predictable it's not uh so i've gotten to the point where it is but it's hard it's hard for sure yeah the only thing is i've always been a paid ads guy right i and i've always been partnering up with companies helping them for office i took a percentage of the sales yeah um you know that's how i made my money and it was very predictable when it comes to that kind of thing but then i realized um nowadays i'm very sure in few years a personal brand is inevitable.

You have to have it. Especially with AI coming out.
Exactly, right? It's either going to be a personal brand or AI.

So you have to have a personal brand. I agree.
And to be honest,

I'm not relying on the personal brand now.

So

it kind of makes it a little bit, you know, I don't really have this desperation intact for it. But I do.

I'm starting to invest in content and teams and podcasts and stuff like that because I think it'll be an invaluable asset, man.

Even when running ads, and then on the thank you page, you just send them to your long form or your organic, bro, your

ROAS just increases. Your return on ad spend just goes up because people, they want to consume, even if it's just looking at your Instagram like this, just to see what you talk about.

That increases your ad spend. Wow.
That's good to know. That's good to know.

I'm in the opposite of you. I'm about to start running paid ads.
So it's good that we're meeting.

When you talk about paid ads, especially for you or any other person, your offer is the most important thing.

So if you can make the offer as stupid, simple, and irresistible as possible, you will make money with paid ads. So for example, if

a fitness coach came to me and he said, I have this offer and they have to eat chicken, broccoli, and rice three times a day for seven days a week.

And they have to go to the gym two hours a day every day. I'll tell him, don't even sell it.

It's too difficult. It's too difficult.
No one's going to buy it.

Is it a solution to a problem? Yes. But it's a shitty solution.
Your offer sucks.

Whereas you're going to compete with people that said, like, you don't need to go to the gym, you only need to do body weight workouts 30 minutes a day for three times a week or something like that.

And you can still eat pizza three times a week. You're going to compete with that fitness coach.
You're going to lose, bro.

So when it comes to paid advertising, it needs to come fast. It needs to be irresistible.

If you have a brand like Jeff Nippert, you can get away with selling anything because then people buy for you instead of the offer.

But if you're running paid ads, it's a different, different game, bro. So your offer needs to be super simple, super irresistible.
And then you move on into the advertising.

You fix the offer first, then you go into the ads. Yeah, that's what I always do, people.
That is good to know. Yeah, most people just focus on the ad, not the offer.

The offer is the most important thing. Russell Brunson said it.
Alex Homosi said it, but it's not talked about enough. Yeah.
Yeah.

Let's talk about some of the best offers you've seen because you've done over $75 million.

Near $4 million for yourself, right? Yep. So which offers stand out to you throughout that time period?

So

throughout my time period, the biggest, most profitable offers I've seen are done for you offers. So whether it's a biz op, fitness,

dating, if you can make it done for you, you will make a lot more money than anyone else just selling the information. So even with Philip, he has a done for you program.

We sell, like, we told him to make done for you.

With fitness coaches, we ask him to put done for you. With dating, we ask him to put done for you.
So there's a dating coach.

He came to me and he said he helps set up their profiles and swipe, but he didn't lead with that. I told him, bro, say like done for you, Tinder something.
That should be your offer.

And then he flipped it upon his head. He made like $1,000 a day now.
Wow. Because people are lazy, okay?

And when I tell people, if you want to know whether your offer is most likely to win, I'm not saying it's guaranteed, nothing's guaranteed in life. There's an it's something called an effort line.

Okay, the effort line is one to ten. So one being,

let's say you're in the fitness space, one being the least amount of effort possible to achieve the outcome, and 10 being the most amount of effort.

So one would be you not doing anything and still losing weight, right? Which is impossible, of course. And then here is like the chicken, broccoli, and rice.
So there's two extremes.

I want you to look at your offer. And then you're going to figure out where your offer lands in that line.
So is it closer to one or closer to 10? If it's closer to one, you have a winning offer.

That's how I tell people. You make it as easy as possible for them to achieve their dream outcome.

Your offer will be a winner. That's powerful.
You got me thinking about how to improve mine for sure. Yeah.
Hormozy's book really changed my perspective on it too. For sure.

The Grand Slam offer, yeah. $100 million offers.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it made me really...
I could probably say that book made me over a million dollars, honestly. Easily.
Crazy, right?

His stuff is so good.

Even he gets haters, to be honest. What? How? Yeah, I've seen people hating on him for what

like they say he's nothing special like all these kind of things like bro he just beat the like guinness world record harry potter exactly right nothing special he's been he's crazy good um

you know when i got into online space this online space even gary vee has haters and i always found that very puzzling because his message was so positive he's not controversial at all not at all not at all bro He tells you to work hard.

If you're happy with your job, then okay. If you're not, then you have to hustle.
What's so controversial about that stuff? I realize at this point, because I get hate every day too, it's inevitable.

Yeah. There's just people out there that are going to do it.
Even if you have the best message, like Mr.

Beast, and you're saving lives, you're saving thousands of lives, you're going to get a lot of hate. Yeah.
It's just the nature of social media. Do you get hate? Yeah, all the time.

Is it because they don't agree with you having certain people on? Mostly, yeah. It's usually on the guests.

Sometimes it's on me for platforming the guest, but I don't agree with the platforming argument because half the time the guest coming on has a bigger platform than me.

So that doesn't even make sense that I'm platforming them. Okay.
You know what I mean? Yeah. Like when I have on Andrew Tate, he gets way more views than me.
How is that me platforming him?

So I don't agree with that argument. True.
True. I think there's a certain line, though, where there's certain people that are really malicious that you don't want to have on.
Yeah.

But you kind of just have to. Where would you draw that line, though? I would say

violence? Violence. Inciting violence.
Someone that's inciting violence, I think, intentionally. Yeah.
But that's like very hard to find. Yeah, and it's not common.
I don't really

have big influential figures. No, not in America, at least.
I don't think people are really doing that. You'd get arrested out here if you're doing that.
Yeah. You know.

With the whole Charlie Cook thing, what do you think about it? I had him on. I filmed

it. His events every year.

Fucked me up for like three days. I couldn't eat or sleep.
When I saw it,

I made a video about it as well. Although I didn't agree with a lot of some of the stuff he said.
But it doesn't really matter. You shouldn't shoot the guy.
Yeah, that was...

It was pretty graphic, bro. Yeah, it's going to go down in history.
That's like our modern day, I think, like MLK, JFK type thing.

okay you know in america at least yeah i'm sure even internationally people are talking about it he probably influenced a lot about um with the elections right yeah they're saying to make people trump the election yeah at least certain states definitely a couple even trump i think said he won him like arizona or something i think him and tate had a bigger impact on the trump election than people think 100 tate was very pro-trump very pro-trump yeah he's trying to move back here i don't know why but

what yeah tristan just tweeted that he wants to move back to the us tristan and andrew yeah why i don't know it's hard to beat dubai right yeah and you're always talking about the us being like why would you ever live there he's saying they want to fix all the issues going on but i think it's beyond them dude it is i think there's a deep game being played yeah you know that we know nothing about i think the people you actually kind of help is the people in the middle in the middle who are undecided yeah i think people on the fence you could convince them but convincing either side to move over it's too much it's very rare bro there are people like that of course course.

It needs to be a life-changing incident for them to switch. It can't be like a conversation for the most part.
Can I ask you, I'm not very sure about this, but like, has it always been this

war between the two sides? Has it always been like that?

So I got into politics because of the show.

But growing up, it didn't seem that way, honestly. I think social media has amplified it, especially Twitter.
Right. I think it's probably worse now than ever.

You know, I was playing a game with my girlfriend, you know, those card games. We pick up the questions and stuff.
And it said,

Does your partner's political views affect your dating or something like that? And I was looking at it and I was like, My answer was yes now. Wow.
Now it's yes.

But in the past, it wouldn't have mattered to me. It's because now politics have been

what side you're on kind of dictates your values.

And politics has seeped in through like societal issues as well. So if you're a liberal, your values probably won't align with me majority of the times, right?

But in the past, like 30, 40 years ago, it was all about economics, jobs, housing market, interest rates. That was what politics was, right? Fixing all those kind of things.

Obviously, you get the odd social stuff,

but it wasn't till the extent of now. Now it's like people actually judge you for your views on politics.
Yeah, it's so intertwined with everything. Exactly.

Do I have friends who have more liberal views than me? Yes.

The only people I would be friends with who are like that is they don't make it their identity right so if you're gay i don't care if you're gay bro but don't make it your identity that's all you talk about i don't give a fuck who you bro like to be honest and i'm sure most people don't it's when you lead with that then it's very it's very weird yeah yeah i met i met gay guys in dubai oh really yeah but they they don't talk about it they talk like me and you just normal like whatever they do behind closed doors nothing of your business uh you don't really care they don't advocate for it

Bro. Not out here.
If someone's gay out here. Yeah, they'll let you know, bro.
Yeah, they'll let you know. They'll swing that shit.
They'll let your kids know. Yeah.

Yeah, they'll program it in your kids. Yeah.

Is Vegas, like, considered what?

We're conservative, but not by much. We're a swing state.
Okay. Yeah.
I think it's pretty close. We went right this election, but I think the one before we were left.
Left, okay. Yeah.

Swing states meaning like they could go otherwise.

Yeah. There's like, I think, seven or eight in the country.
Okay. Swing states.
But Trump won them all this election. It's crazy.
We'll see next election though.

Trump's getting a lot of hate right now. He's getting a lot of hate.
With the Epstein stuff and

Israel and stuff like that. Israel, yeah.
He might die on that hill. Yeah.
I saw some stat on Israel. It's like what what the age ranges support uh Palest have you seen this?

I think younger people would generally support Palestine. Yeah, I think that's my guess.

Uh seventy percent support Palestine between uh twenty and thirty, but the older you get, the less the percentage gets. Okay.
So Trump's um got an older audience, I guess.

Do you think it's because the younger people are more educated on the topic? Yeah.

Or at least they're more exposed to it. They're on social media more.
The older people aren't scrolling through Twitter and stuff, you know? Yeah. I mean, I'm seeing graphic shit on my feed, dude.

It's pretty disturbing. Honestly, X is pretty disturbing, bro.
I have to moderate it. Yeah.
Because if I'm on it too much, I'll unnotice my mental space is affected. Yeah.

It also makes you angry, bro. Yeah, that's right.
Because Twitter does that to you. X does that to you.
And you can't thrive in an angry state of mind. Yeah, bro.
It makes you... I don't know.

I don't really like to use it that much because it affects your state of mind. When you see someone whose opinion is just so stupid,

and then you're just like, but why am I getting triggered? They know it's going to make me angry. Yeah, right.
So

it rage baiting. Just leave it as it is.
Well, dude, where can people learn from you and talk to you? And do you mentor people? Do you do any coaching? I don't do coaching. It's all service-based.

I've never been into the coaching space. Not my thing.
But you want to find my services? It's at advertising.inc. So I bought that domain.
Nice.

And then you can find me on Instagram at Dan Khan Legacy. Cool.
Check him out, guys. And if you're in Dubai, hit him up.
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