Robert Kiltz: The Fertility Crisis EXPLAINED. Why Today’s Diet Is Making Us Infertile | DSH #1655

If you didn't take your caffeine or your energy drinks, would you be as energetic as you are to be able to go to work and perform as well as you're doing? Maybe not.

And so I've been off coffee for two years, no energy drinks, and I've never felt better. We're addicted to the plants because the plants actually control you.
You do all the work for them.

You change their DNA. You store their seeds.
You make them resistant to the bugs.

And you store them in places where when the Holocaust or or the global event happens that you and I aren't here, unless the one that blows up the whole earth, they will continue to thrive and survive.

Yeah.

All right, guys, Dr. Robert Kilts here, fertility specialist.
Thanks for joining us today. John, it's a pleasure.
Thanks for the invitation.

It's a pressing issue right now, so I think it's important to get this message across. The numbers are looking scary these days, right?

More and more people are suffering from infertility, miscarriage,

the postponing their childbearing, but I think there's a lot more going on that's causing the problem.

I feel like this might be the highest percentage-wise in history of infertility issues going on right now. Yeah, it's kind of a crazy thing.

We see the population of the world growing, but in many pockets of the world, we're seeing a decline in the birth rate.

Women are waiting longer. Plus, I think there's a lot of immunologic and inflammatory disorders that are taking place.

Men are suffering from low libido, low sperm counts, motility, morphology, testosterone levels are dropping.

And then on the women's side is polycystic covariance syndrome, endometriosis, which are all inflammatory conditions which affect the hormonal environment and which cause people to not be able to get pregnant or increases miscarriages, all sorts of problems related to those.

Wow. So a lot of different issues at the same time.
Absolutely. That's concerning.
Yeah, I've seen Elon talk about the depopulation stuff. And is the U.S.
in that category at the moment?

Yeah, the U.S. is definitely in that category.
We obviously have a lot of immigration, but when it comes to most young people, they're not reproducing.

The majority of people I see are in their 30s and 40s. Wow.
And most of them have had no children. And they've been trying for several years.

And the main cause is we don't know. It's called unspecified or idiopathic infertility.
And I always say that means we're idiots.

We're not digging deep, listening and learning what might be the factors causing that.

Is it true women can only get pregnant certain days out of the month?

Well, in general, yes. A woman's menstrual cycle between beginning the menstrual period and ovulation and then their next period is 28 days.
Ovulation generally happens about day 14.

And so their peak fertile period is between day 12 and 14, essentially. Wow.
But it depends how long the sperm may last

in the uterine-tubal environment, which may be longer than that. But

it's a big,

important time frame.

But people are traveling or they're at work all the time.

But there's a lot of problems with women not ovulating regularly. They might not even know where they're at in their cycle.
A lot of

an ovulation, we call it they're not ovulating regularly, or they have polycystical ovarian syndrome, which affects many women, which I think is related to some metabolic disorder, which means they might not have a period for a year, two, or three in many cases.

Holy crap. I've never heard that long because I've heard of some missing like a month, but years.
Typically, women with polycystic ovarian syndrome may have a menstrual period 30 to 40 days apart.

That's pretty common. Some women might have it three times a year, but there are some cases where they don't get them at all, except unless they take a hormone pill to stimulate that.

But that's becoming more and more common, and I think it's related to our dietary environment.

We're eating too many carbohydrates, a low-fat diet, believe it or not, and we're eating three to six meals a day, which is not natural to our species. It's a lot, right?

And then there's the growing concern with plastics. Do you think that's affecting fertility? Well, I think the environmental plastics and the pesticides and the heavy metals and

the damage from smog in the air, from industrial pollution, cars and things like that. Those are all factors.

But then let's add in our home environment, the off-gassing of the products that we use in our homes, or the makeups or other beauty products that we all use.

Those are factors that get in through what we breathe, drink, and eat, but also through the skin. And those can have adverse effects on sperm quality, quantity, egg quality,

and other hormone environments, but it can also cause birth defects.

So, in utero and or before

fertilization of an egg, where the egg or the sperm in the ovary or the testicle is affected by those pollutants, which damage the egg or the sperm, which may then cause a defect which may show up in future generations.

Wow, the air pollution is super toxic. I was just down in Mexico City.
I'm from Los Angeles, and I grew up in the smog. And so there's a lot out there, but I suspect a lot of it is what we can't see.

Well, there's studies on babies born in cities versus like rural areas. Well, definitely that

in the cities versus rural areas. But what's interesting is in our today's environment,

so much of the toxins, I believe, comes from the food we eat. And most of what we eat is shipped around the country and around the world.

yeah so you know you don't even know what is affected in either the animal products which may have microplastics or mercury or other toxins that affect things and and then the plants themselves which contain 99% of the pesticides because plants don't want to be eaten they make these pesticides to control and kill the microbes or the macrobes which we are herbivores which may damage your reproductive system right have you seen seen more infertility issues on vegans and vegetarians compared to carnivore?

I think vegans and vegetarians tend to have more immunologic disorders, which is related to inflammation. And if you think about it, sugar

diabetes, pre-diabetes, metabolic syndrome is on the rise. The number of diabetics, type 1 and type 2, are on the rise.

Cancers and many other arthritis, psoriasis diseases are on the rise, and those are all inflammatory conditions.

I believe that the plant-based diet is causing a lot of damage to the gut and to every cell of our body and it shows up in reproductive dysfunction.

I believe I've and I've seen many women and men that have converted from a plant-based diet to a meat-based diet and seen tremendous improvement and normal reproduction comes back and many diseases also seem to go away.

Wow. That's very concerning for people.
There's a lot of vegans and vegetarians trying to have kids, you know. Well, it's on the rise.
And

you can actually make some changes that will help a vegan vegetarian in the keto space, where you help them reduce their inflammation by increasing their ketones, which is basically increasing fats.

The problem with the vegan is that they don't eat any animal products. And so all the oils that they use from plants, I think, contain phytochemicals and they're all industrial produced.

But if you look at butter, cream, cream,

cheese, and eggs in the vegetarian world, you can get lots of healthy fats that I think can benefit a vegetarian better than a vegan. Plus,

again, we're eating three to six times a day. Well, we're all getting overweight.
What if you only ate one meal a day? Because really, that's all your body requires most likely.

And by changing simple habits like adding fat, eating once a day will tremendously help so many people, even in the vegan and vegetarian world. Yeah.
What about fasting? Zero a day?

Yeah, I'm a big fasting fan. I think fasting is historically our evolutionary

set point.

Because if you and I had to go out hunting today for food, it would be hard to find if there's no farms, no ranches, and no stores and things like that. So I think it took days to find food.

We wanted to hunt. You likely ate it raw

in our initial evolution.

And so I think fasting naturally empties the gut.

As long as the gut has food in it,

what you ate is going into your liver or your lymphatics. So the sugars and the proteins go from your gut to the liver.
Insulin goes into the liver to make fat.

The problem is, from the day you're born to the day you die, your stomach and your intestines are always full of food. So, when you think you're fasting, you're not.
You're still digesting.

But when you eat one meal a day or you extend the fast, now your gut is empty. Now, autophagy sets in even greater.

The toxins are removed. And the other thing that's happening within our gut is fermentation.

So, fermentation historically makes wine and beer, but it's happening inside our intestines. And there's something called autologous

alcoholism. So

you become drunk basically to eating foods that then ferment from the bugs inside you and it makes alcohol. Wow.
And people have actually been

found drunk, yet they didn't drink alcohol. What? It's from fasting? Absolutely.
No. So again, back to what's in the gut, the fermentation.
I mentioned the fermentation there.

So by emptying the gut, you actually stop the fermentation. You release, you resolve the toxins that are made via fermentation.
that also adds to your health and wellness.

So, fermentation makes alcohol, aldehydes, methane, heat, and gas, which are all deadly and dangerous to us. And think about the fermentation in the cold.
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It's right where your reproductive organs said.

And there's so much other damage and disease going on because of that. So for those that are suffering, just fasting may help resolve that.
Now, I do a two to three day fast every day.

I'm sorry, every

month. I do a five to seven day fast quarterly, and I typically eat only one meal a day at night,

which I recommend to everyone. And you're able to maintain weight on that protocol?

Let's see. I'm 69 in two days.

I've been about my high school weight now for a long time on carnivore. Wow.
I don't do any excessive exercise. I do about 30 to 60 minutes of light walking, light weights, and I feel great.

My muscle tone is great. My strength is great.
My endurance is great. I've never felt better.
That's impressive. Carnivore diet for 15 years now, right? Yeah, nearly 15 years.

Next year, technically, it's 15 years. When I hit 70, it's 15 years.
That's the longest I've heard someone on the carnivore. Well, there are some of my friends have done it longer.

There are people out there for sure that have done it longer, but few and far between. Because some people theorize that shouldn't be a long-term diet.
Have you heard that? I've heard it.

I mean, you know, staying away from drugs and alcohol and tobacco is hard, right? right? And so

we suffer a lot. And plants, in our ancient evolution, plants, when they were seasonally available in small amounts, we likely ate them, but it wasn't our mainstay of food.
Today,

the plants are everywhere. They're in bags and boxes and they're easy to get.

And so our mindset is eat, eat, eat, because our brain says, get fat because there's no food next week, next month, because you're going into a famine or wintertime where you need to hibernate, gestate, or migrate.

And those are naturally part of our brain. And so

we likely, although we're telling a story, we don't know what happened 50,000, 100,000 years ago. We're going by the evidence that we found in the archaeological findings.
But I believe that...

Carnivore diet is one of the most sustainable things you can do, but it takes a community. It takes a commitment to your health and wellness.
I've never felt better in my life. That's awesome.

One of your most viewed YouTube videos is called, Is Broccoli Unhealthy? Isn't that crazy?

Well, you know, so we,

I'm a doctor, and I went into medicine to help people. I was pretty much a Mediterranean eater,

lots of fruits and vegetables, olive oil, and lean meat. And I suffered for years.
And as a doctor, I didn't know my suffering was from my diet.

And I would always kind of say, your diet doesn't matter.

Vegan, vegetarians were the best diets. But if you're in Mediterranean, you're in good shape, and red meat is deadly and dangerous.

The American College of OBGYN, my premier organization that looks over all of us, recommends a plant-based diet for pregnant, lactanian women and red wine.

Is red wine good for us? I've heard a glasses, but I don't know what quantity it is.

Would you give a glass of wine to a child every day? No. No.

So it is a neurotoxin the challenge is is we don't know how much is going to affect us and what day you might overdrink and you might drive a car and you might wish you didn't so i mean we we in medicine are are likely affected by the world we live in culturally i'm italian i grew up in a culture which loved to drink and eat and so that's our norm uh and and so changing these things is really hard to do so the commitment in my life is i've seen the changes to my patients, to myself.

And it was actually my patients who taught me about carnivore lifestyle.

So, about 20 plus years ago, I was teaching meditation, prayer, yoga, acupuncture, because being infertile is very emotionally hard.

And most men and women don't show up to the fertility doctor because they just don't want to or they don't know about it. But

many people actually quit after failing one or two IVF cycles, which are very expensive financially, physically, and emotionally. And lots of depression, lots of

relationship breakups overall this. So I thought, wow, let's bring some mindfulness to the practice.
And people were getting improvement on that, mostly because I think they were continuing.

They could be persistent.

Some people were suddenly getting pregnant on the paleo diet, which I had never heard of.

And I'm like, okay, if you're getting pregnant on a diet that I don't know about, it's time that I look into this. And that's what I began to dig into paleo diet.

I personally did it myself and I found, wow, my migraines are less, my arthritis is less.

And then as I was digging deep into the science of paleo diet, which is a high fat, a lower carbohydrate, lower plant-based diet, a little like the Atkins diet.

If you look at Paleolithic era, which was hunting and gathering.

And then I found the science of keto, which measure your ketones and fasting was part of that. Again, high fat.
And then I saw some dude doing carnivore. He was ripped.

He didn't exercise and he only ate meat. And I said, that's for me because I don't want to make this hard.
I want to keep it easy. And I was hurting from all the exercise.
And I used to do triathlons.

I used to run 10 miles three days a week. And it really, I looked great, but I was suffering.
You're probably inflammation. Huge inflammation.

Arthritis, psoriasis, migraines, bowel bleeding, kidney stones gone, depression, anxiety gone.

My fear and worry of speaking out in the world gone. And that was the time to move forward.
And I've been practicing. I know, do I ever eat a french fry, ice cream, cookie cake, or maybe a martini?

Very rare.

And I would say that some people could tolerate those things, some. I do okay with them.
I'm a minimizer.

I'm not worried about addictions or moderation personally, but some people are, and so they have to be very careful on these diets. Yeah.
Well, they're making some innovative ice creams these days.

Well, there's a Kilts ice cream on YouTube. It's cream, eggs, a little bit of cane sugar, honey, or a little berries if you want, and some vanilla.
You can not use those if you want.

You could try the Simsteva if you want, but it's up to you. See, when you make the food at home, it's healthier than ever.
Oh, 100%. Yeah, that's why eating out is tough.
It is really tough.

And I always make sure I can find a steakhouse. And I always want a good steak.
I want prime, and I like thick cut. I like lots of marbling, and I like black and blue.

Black and blue, so you don't even cook it?

Barely. It's really show the fire and pull it away.
I do a lot of raw meat also, a lot of aged meat.

I think that we evolved on raw meat. And if you look at Pottinger's Cats, it's a book by Pottinger where he studied cats.
He fed them either raw meat or cooked meat, raw milk or pasteurized milk.

And he found that those on the raw side were healthier and their future generations of reproductive history was better. Wow.

Those on the cooked meat and pasteurized milk were sicker and their future generations were sicker. So you have to realize that if you cook something, you burn it.

you denature the DNA, you change the molecular structure of every cellular form in it. So in fact, we may not be getting the proper diet on a well-cooked meat.

Plus, when you cook the meat, what happens to the fat? You cook it out, it melts away.

So, the actual priority in keto, paleo, and carnivore is actually fat, animal fat. Oils are industrial products, they're not natural.

There's no way you and I went hunting and came home with a jar of oil.

It's a civilized industrial product of crushing

seeds and nuts and fruits. And if you think of olive oil, it's actually the whole fruit and the seed that's crushed.
So when people think, well, it's just a fruit oil. No, it's a seed oil.
Wow.

And I don't recommend it because it comes with the seed antigens and the chemicals. Because does a seed...

Does a plant want its reproductive organ to be damaged? No. It does not.

And plants have evolved millions of years before you and i and so are plants live organisms i think they are actually do they sense the environment yeah do they control the environment they do and so they're far smarter than you and i i mean

do you really want to get in a rocket ship and go to mars no would a plant want to go on that no they're not going there human beings i mean we're we're massively intelligent but we're kind of dumb

yeah i think emotions might do that to certain people. Well, it's interesting.
So, what if

a plant-based diet damages your brain

and it causes

anxiety, depression, suicide, schizophrenia, psychosis? What if it causes Parkinson's and

MS and ALS? What if our environment, because we breathe, drink, and eat the plant and antigens of microbes, so bacteria and viruses, are they good for you?

No. The microbiome? No.

I mean, would you put bacterias or viruses in an open wound? No. Would you inject it in your bloodstream? Of course not.

And so ultimately, the plants and the microbes, they get into our body, they circulate everywhere, they damage every cell of our body through glycation.

Glycation is the abnormal effects of foreign sugars onto every cell of your body.

Now, sugars are critical in our body, but not for energy, for something called glycosylation, meaning that sugars are critical to add on to a protein to create the proper function

shape of that glycoprotein. People think sugar is for energy, but I'll bet it's not.

The plants and the microbes that get into our body cause a significant amount of disease at all ages,

even in utero.

And so we're not, we're in modern medicine, we're like, oh, no, plants don't cause disease.

But where does heroin, cocaine, marijuana, nicotine, and caffeine come from?

Plants. Plants.
So now we all enjoy small amounts of them, but if I gave you...

10 pots of coffee, espresso right now,

in the next couple of hours, would that be good for you? No. Could it kill you? Could actually.
That's correct.

And so, and the same thing with cigarettes and nicotine and marijuana and psilocybin and ayahuasca. These are not things that we should be putting in our body.
We do.

And thankfully, most of us do fine. And maybe it makes us feel a little bit better.

But

if you didn't take

your caffeine or your energy drinks, would you be as energetic as you are to be able to go to work and perform as well as you're doing? No. Maybe not.

And so I've been off coffee for two years, no energy drinks, and I've never felt better. And I love coffee.
I would say, oh, no, I have no adverse effects. I'm not sure.

I feel like, wow, it's so different. But

we're addicted to the plants because they want you to, because the plants actually control you. You do all the work for them.

You change their DNA. You store their seeds.
You make them resistant to the bugs.

And you store them in places where when the Holocaust or

the global event happens that you and I aren't here unless the one that blows up the whole earth,

they will continue to thrive and survive. Yeah, they've been here and they'll continue to be here.
That's right. That's right.
Yeah, a lot of people are addicted to coffee, man.

I would say I was addicted to coffee as a child. Wow.
So I had headaches as a kid and I had bowel problems. I was ADHD, OCD, dyslexia.

In my teenage years, I hung out in a gang, 18th Street in Los Angeles, and I was kicked out of school. My father was in jail at one time, and I believe it's all secondary to the same problem.

And

thankfully, through the grace of God, I found a path to art

and

understanding the power of belief in God, and I became a doctor.

But

I think that these substances we consume are good and bad. Yeah.

What do you think about this gene editing stuff, CRISPR? Have you seen that?

Well,

I think the medications, the drugs, the

dissections, the treatments that we've evolved within medicine are magical and amazing.

And they become so expensive that the majority of people can't afford health care.

And so

CRISPR is a treatment likely for cancers and many immunologic disorders, maybe many

genetic disorders that are going to be passed on.

I think it sounds really wonderful. But what if

we can change our environment that we don't need these things? Because, again, the majority of people can't afford it.

Our company had to completely revamp our health care system within our company because it was going to bankrupt us.

It's going up millions of dollars a year. I have over 600 staff on my company, and it was terrible.
Holy crap. And people are getting sicker and sicker.
So I think modern medicine is really fantastic.

I'm an IVF fertility specialist.

I still am a standard doctor. I use a lot of immunologic treatments.
I use a lot of biologics.

We also do a lot of acupuncture, meditation, massage, and things like that. And we focus on nutrition and natural things.
But

again, I'm all for modern medicine.

I was just down in Mexico City looking looking at conceivable life and looking at robotic IVF laboratory. Wow.
Are those the artificial wombs? It's not the artificial womb.

What it is, is that we will retrieve eggs out of women's ovaries.

We will then take the sperm sample produced by the husband in a cup, and we will then take the egg, inject the sperm into the egg to create the embryo, culture it in a dish, and we have humans doing those things.

They've done a great job for a long time, and then taking the embryo, either freezing it or transferring the uterus wow the robotic system takes takes the the the fluid from the ovary and the fluid from the ejaculate and the robot then will take it and will find the eggs find the sperm prepare the egg and the sperm they'll prepare the dishes they'll add the sperm to the egg and all in a in a robotic line

over over a short amount of time that will significantly i think uh improve and automate the system in the laboratory because we human beings we're not as good as the technology that's created in artificial intelligence and

the LADAR,

which is kind of really pretty amazing stuff that's happening. So I think technology,

everyone is not going to go carnivore. It ain't happening.

And I'm not suggesting everyone do that. My grandmother lived to 104, my parents 94.
My grandmother smoked Palma's and Drake Manhattan.

I got good genes, but they did have some dementia, some Alzheimer's, and other diseases that required a lot of health care. My father had heart disease, had to have a bypass.
And so

I believe that if we can help people even fall into the keto paleo lifestyle, eat less frequently, you know, add the fat, and reduce the amount of plant toxins and alcohol that they're consuming, I think we'll help a lot of people.

Absolutely. Wow, that's nuts.
I know Elon does IVF with his kids, right?

I don't know that.

Well, it came out on X.

Yeah, yeah.

I always say I can't tell you about my patients.

Not that I'm saying he was.

But yeah,

it's more and more prevalent. We're seeing IVF

numbers rise. Interesting, in America, we're probably doing only about 20 to 25 percent of the need of IVF in America.
And at CNY Fertility, I started it about 30 years ago.

We've always been the more affordable option.

We're under $5,000 for an IVF cycle, and you can even do that in medications in many cases.

Most IVF cycles are costing anywhere between $15,000 and $30,000 or more. That's a lot for families.
And the average outcome is about 30 to 40% per cycle. Oh, so it doesn't even guarantee you.

Oh, there's no guarantee on those numbers. Wow.
Right. And so that's the frustration and the problem.
But I think that

as we see people traveling easily, I mean, to travel from anywhere in the world, it's

so easy.

And so we do a lot of telehealth, a virtual medicine.

We help people in a consultation and give them advice, listen to their story, and guide and direct them whether they want to look at a natural method of conception, surgical, looking at endometriosis.

And we talk a little about PCOS and endometriosis, which I think is a big, big thing. And then whether we want to do IVF, but we work with OBGYNs around the country.

We work with naturopaths around the country in order to help people find ways to bring a child into their family, their lives. I love that.
Yeah, because women are on a timetable, right?

It's a big timetable. I mean, we're most fertile in our teens and early 20s.

And so, for obvious reasons, most of us have postponed that one.

But the PCOS, polycystic ovarian syndrome, which I call plant-caused ovarian sickness.

So, if you think about it, you know, it's a pre-diabetic, diabetic, type 2 diabetic metabolic disorder.

So, many of us are eating a high-plant-based diet, which all breaks down to sugar, but it also comes with phytochemicals.

The birth control pill and the abortion pill actually are developed from plants. Really? Yes.
Holy crap.

So, many people don't know that the plants they are eating might contain goitrogens, turmerigens, phytoestrogens,

hemagglutinins, phytohemagglutinins. Those are plant lectins that actually cause blood clots.

So when we tell people to eat a high plant-based diet,

we're misinformed as doctors in the medical field. And the nutrition industry is at the same fault in all of this because we really aren't studying the science.

We're listening to the propaganda that's pushing a plant-based paradigm when, in fact, we're getting sicker and sicker. And I'm looking to help the regenerative farmers.

And even if you're choosing to

sustainable ranching and farms is critical, we don't have to massively industrialize the food and till the soils and ruin the soils. We need to let the grass root.

And this is a grassroots calling for me that I want to help the farmers, the ranchers know where your food is coming from,

know what's added to it, if it's added to it. Know about whether it's getting hormones or other injections, what it's being fed.
You know, I want to know what my food is feeding on before I eat it.

That's an important thing for all of us. I personally enjoy a grain finished, but my grain finished is Wyoming Wagoo, Bighorn Mountain Farms up in Buffalo, Wyoming.
I've been there. I love it.
I see

the cows grazing beautifully, great people taking care of them.

And they feed them a little grain to finish them. Because I like a fattier, more wagu meat.
Now, there's some genetics to that, but I think the fat is so critical to eat.

If the only thing you do in your diet is add animal fat, you'll be healthier than you ever know. Wow.
I will say grain finish tastes better. It does.

I think the science that it's harmful for you is not accurate enough. I don't worry about my omega-3s and omega-6s because

I don't eat anything that I got to think about that, in my opinion.

I don't use plant oils and I don't typically eat plants of any significance. I occasionally have a French fry, no skin,

extra crispy, fried in duck grease, tallow, ghee, or lard. And I dip it in sour cream.
I made sure I poured the grease from the steak because there's always a little bit in that pan.

And I don't put it on the barbecue. I actually put it under the fire.

That's the best way to blacken blue it, char it, and save the grease and pour it right back. Wow.
You get worried about parasites eating the raw meat?

I've never heard of parasites from eating beef

from the cow that you get from the butcher or the ranch and you slice it up or they slice it up or they or they, you know where they're grinding it up.

But I think the problem is going to be in ground meat, processed meats. I don't typically touch chicken.
Yeah. Mass produced.
Find a local farm, raise it yourself. That's what you want to do.

Eat the fatty meat, eat the organ meats, eat the skin. That's the healthiest thing we can eat.
And the problem is most of the processed meats, they've removed the fat. And so where did it go?

Ask the butcher for the fat. And again, I think it's better to consume some of the raw fat, raw butter,

because microbes

cannot grow in a fat environment.

And so I don't know if you've ever noticed that butter never molds. That's true.
Yeah, I've never seen that. Right.
If it's real butter, it never molds.

And so actually, when you eat fat, it kills or controls the microbes in the gut. Wow.

And if you've ever heard of Salisbury Steak,

he was a doctor.

Civil War era. Graduated Albany Med in the 1850s.

His men were dying of dysentery and pneumonia he put them on a mostly a meat-based diet but he also wrote a book and studied and looked at the effluent the the the diarrhea and the vomit that came out of them and saw tons of microbes flourishing so it's the microbe biome that's killing us because we're feeding out a lot of plants and low fat If you add the fat, you kill or control the microbes.

I think that's one of the most healthiest things we can do. Interesting.
Yeah, you're seeing restaurants starting to use, what is it, ghee or lard or something?

They're using ghee, they're using animal fat, they're beginning to start, I think it's shake-shack.

Stake and shake, right? Steak and shake. McDonald's used to do it, but they were forced by

an environment which was trying to sell us a concept. Ansel Keys and many others were convinced that fat was the cause of heart disease when, in fact, it was sugar.
Wow. Now, is it a conspiracy?

There may be a lot of conspiracies going on out there, but basically the powers of the prophets, the pope, the priest, the pharaohs, the kings and the queens controlled the masses by feeding them bread and beer.

And so I can get you to do anything if I feed you bread, beer. Now it's wine and coffee and all sorts of things.

It's pasta bread, cookie cakes, and those sort of things, which basically make us weak and meek. Domesticated animals.
If you want to domesticate a lion or a wolf, feed them plants.

They become dogs and cats. Wow.
So we're just domesticated ancient hunters. We've lost our ability to think for ourselves, to control ourselves, and say no.

And that's what I'm here to do to share and help people heal. I love that.
Yeah, when I was growing up, they really demonized salt and fat.

Yeah, my dinner is...

Fatty meat, salt, and water.

And add the butter. So I was at Capitol Grill last night.
You know, the guy had here to hear our story. I did some oysters with some lemon on it, and then no bread.

We had sparkling water, ribeye steak. It wasn't quite as thick as I love, but it was good.

And so we said, okay, black and blue. I want extra butter.

And I just had to, you know, bring more butter and bring the mald and salt. And it was amazing that way.
And mine was.

black and blue and I again I think raw to rare is the best thing you could do with a lot of fat on it. I see too many carnivores cutting the fat and not eating the fat.

And many carnivores still have problems with their health and wellness at all levels because they aren't focusing on fat. Interesting.
And when we say carnivore, it's the fat.

And ultimately, if you go back to our ancients, you look at our Eskimos and you look at Wilhelmir Steffenson and his work that he did

in the early 1900s, Fat of the Land.

The story is simple. We're meant to eat fat.
And the modern world took from the indigenous people

that what they did was they took their health and wellness, their livelihood, and their environment away from them by providing a plant-based diet, and then it controlled them.

And then they brought all the bugs and the microbes that essentially killed many of them. Wow.
Yeah, they tried to reintroduce insects to our generation, like protein, chickpea powder, and stuff.

Yeah, now there are many indigenous people that eat insects. Yeah.

And In fact,

so what is the energy for the insect? Is it grass?

It's the fat. So they make fat by eating the grass.
A cow makes fat to get fat. Where's the fat come from? Right? They're not eating fat, they're eating grass.

So why are we all getting so fat? Are we eating fat? So now they say we eat a fatty diet. But the last I look, fruit, fiber, vegetable, seeds, and nuts

are not fat.

And if I fry something in fat,

does it absorb all the fat? If I boil something in water, does it absorb all the water? It doesn't. So in fact, those are not fatty foods, but they make you fat because they're carbohydrates.

I like to just say they're plants. So the plants break down to simple sugars in your gut.

And then in the gut, they go to the liver.

Insulin goes to the liver and converts it to fat. The job of the liver and the job of insulin is to make fat, not store fat.
If you

eat and make more fat than you burn in the day, you're going to gain weight.

Is gaining weight before wintertime a good thing? No.

Oh, wait, yeah.

Historically, it would be, right? I mean, you know, what do you and I have to do for food?

We, you know, we just call on something on our phone, something's delivered, we get a restaurant, or even though from

the market. And so it is a crazy concept, but most organisms must have fat.
I mean, how do butterflies get all the way to Mexico and back here? They have sugar stores. Nobody has sugar stores.

Plants have sugar stores, but not animals, and not most organisms. And so ultimately, the science we've been taught is wrong.
Sugar is for glycosylation.

Your brain uses it for glycosylation, but the last time I looked,

who has no fat on their body? Have you seen anyone with no fat on their body? No. That doesn't exist.
Because if you do, you're dead. Anorexia, bulimia, cachectia, sarcopenia, it's very sick.

There's something called hepatogenous diabetes. Most people have never heard about it.

It's in the form of cirrhosis. Normal liver, fatty liver, fibrotic liver, cirrhotic liver, liver cancer is in there somewhere, but basically you cannot survive on a cirrhotic liver very long.

When you have a cirrhotic liver, people are very skinny. Yet they're eating a standard diet in so many ways.
Their sugars are high and their insulin is high. Why are they skinny?

They're skinny because their liver cannot make fat. And that's the most critical component of our body.
Everyone says the liver is to detox. It's not.
It's to make fat.

And if you can't make fat, you're dead. Yeah.
And so a type 1 diabetic can't make fat because they don't have insulin.

A type 2 diabetic typically are very fat, aren't they? Yeah.

Is obesity the cause of disease?

Yeah, isn't it?

No way.

Really?

Because

bears gain 1,000 pounds and hibernate and gestate. They lose no muscle mass, no bone mass, but they grow one to four baby bears.
They've lost only one thing, fat.

Well, where did

the bears bears growing in the uterus get their building blocks? Adipose tissue. Adipose tissue is the most important thing for us.
We're actually physiologically, environmentally meant to get fat.

There's nothing wrong with those people to get fat, but they've been told and they've been fed the lie for thousands of years that a plant-based diet is best for you.

Here, you work in the fields, but don't go to the hunting grounds, right? Domesticated animals. Yes, master, we'll do whatever you want.

But when you become a lion, do you listen to the master very well? No. No way.
And I'm not going to listen anymore. And as a physician, my job is to help people, not hurt people.

If I don't share this,

especially in social media, which more and more people are taking charge to take care of their own health and wellness.

We're restricted from talking about health and wellness online, so you have to make a disclaimer. I'm not a doctor.
This is not healthcare advice.

well where did most people get their health advice for thousands of years from their mother their grand well thousands of years their mother their grandmother the the the herbalist in in the tribe right and so there weren't doctors or witch doctors we call them I guess so maybe you're right in some way but but ultimately

we're we're living in a look at I love to party I love to connect I love to have a martini sometimes but I really minimize it but but ultimately we want to help people and today

your phone, the devices, the internet have infinitely more

information than I had when I was in medical school in the 80s. And so now you alone could listen and learn from

human stories, which have more power than a scientific study. Because most scientific studies are supported by a grant or money or a commercial entity that wants the story to read this way.

If it doesn't, what the odds it's going to get published? And if your paper is against the standard scientific paradigm, it ain't going to get published either.

It's going to be hidden or thrown out. Sorry, it doesn't meet our standards.

Now, if you're the head of the American Medical Association, the American College of OBGYN, or any pharmaceutical industry, we're all working together. And

the money that controls all facets of our lives controls medicine, controls the food industry, the pharmaceutical industry.

And I'm not against anyone, by the way, but my job is to help us all heal, whether you're in those areas or not. And you and your family, you want to know the truth.
You don't want to mess around.

Certainly there's a propensity to listen to the doctor. But I've made plenty of mistakes and I've hurt people in my time not knowingly doing that.

And so, wow, you mean if I simply change my diet, which kind of seems ridiculous. I mean, changing diet is like changing your politics or religion.
It's a big change.

It's a big change out there. Yeah, that makes sense, man.
Wow. I learned a lot, Doctor.
Where can people find you and potentially become a client? Well,

you become the client for yourself first and in order to heal humanity, I always say. But drkilts.com is the best place to go.
Doctor is spelled out. But if you Google Kilts,

Carnivore Doctor, or Fertility Doctor, you can find me out there. I own and run CNY Fertility Centers with amazing people helping run this.

And people behind scenes are so critical to help us share this story. But

people text me, call me, and find my cell phone on the internet and text me. But Instagram is a good place to find me, Dr.
Kilstack. Love that.

Thanks for coming on, Doctor. My pleasure, John.
God bless you.

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