TikTok Livestreaming Exposed: The Truth About Diamond Battles | Patrick Cutler DSH #1273

Speaker 1 Period. And it's a way of, it's, it was kind of created as a way for people to support you that follow you on like your content or whatever.
And

Speaker 1 I was heavy in that for a while because it was just fun to make money. And, but, um, it was, it's just got, to me, I got out of it.

Speaker 1 It just got so corrupt with the money stuff because people would recycle on there.

Speaker 1 All right, guys, got Napoleon Dynamite here. Let's go.
Patrick Culler, thanks for hopping on, man. Hey, thanks for having me, man.
From Montana, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Nice and quiet up there, I'd imagine. Yeah, it's a nice place to hide out if you don't even find you.
Yeah, I've never been, but it's on my bucket list. Oh, is it? Yeah, it's Western Monte.

Speaker 1 If you go to Montana, go to Western Montana. That's where all the mountains, the whole east side has like nothing pretty much.

Speaker 1 You like the quiet spots, man, because I know you spent some time in Alaska, too. Yeah, I was up in Alaska for like 10 years, which is crazy.
Yeah, I was up there hunting wolverines. Wow.

Speaker 1 Actually, you were hunting? No.

Speaker 1 I have zero club to hunt actually yeah polar bears scare me man yeah no there's um up there they have caribou um

Speaker 1 moose

Speaker 1 bearded seal bearded seal yeah they have a lot of different things you ever eat some moose yeah that sounds like it tastes pretty good it depends how gamey i don't like gamey you know gamey is where yeah i've had some elk that's gamey yeah i don't like i don't like to call it gamey because gamey means they're like no flavor to it no there's definitely flavor yeah i've had some deer too that's gamey oh yeah yeah

Speaker 1 I don't know if you can fix that once once it's in that form, you know? No, you can, it depends. It also depends on the animal.

Speaker 1 If it's like a fatty animal, then it's like less gamey, but if it's like a strong like animal, that's means that like, yeah, it's more gamey. What made you move out of Alaska?

Speaker 1 I got divorced. That's a good reason.
And

Speaker 1 I was on a job there. I was living in a village and I was on a job with there for like 10 years.
And a village means that it's fly-in only. You can only get there by airplane.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 It's super remote and i just got to a point where i was like okay it's been fun but i want to move on to something else i was just kind of done then my wife divorced me left me up there and um geez yeah sounds like a top secret job yeah so then i'm like all right this is over and i just moved on wow so you can only fly in there you can't just casually drive there yeah you have to so you go into anchorage fine anchorage and you have to fly on it was uh like a 19 seater into the village I was in.

Speaker 1 In other villages, though, it's like a four or five or six seater. Sometimes you'll be there flying in there.
Wow.

Speaker 1 What's it like living with such a small community it's different i mean everybody knows everybody i grew up from small town montana but it's not really comparable to the village the people in the village in alas they had this the coolest thing is they have this tradition where it's like you wave to everybody

Speaker 1 like everybody passing a car passes you pass like everybody waves i'd like be up there and like the whole year as a school teacher and then i'd come down like the states and i'd wave to like people on the street like in vegas

Speaker 1 what are you doing they would get pissed yeah

Speaker 1 that's funny Yeah, it's interesting to see how different cultures like act around each other, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it's, it's really up there, it's, it's so much more of like people are more friendly because they're used to like surviving with each other and you really need each other where compared to the states, you don't as much need each other as like up there.

Speaker 1 It's like life or death. Yeah.
Yeah. Over here, you don't want interaction with your neighbors, I feel like.
No,

Speaker 1 you want to be alone most of the time. Like we got gates over here, gated communities.
Yeah, no, it's way different. So yeah, way, way friendly out there.

Speaker 1 you see that plane crash in alaska recently yeah so my cousin sent me that and i woke up to that and i was like oh this is interesting alaska and i i looked it up and i clicked on the link i was like no way

Speaker 1 oh where that happened at is one of the um most standard basic routes in alaska it is like you driving in your car and going like 40 miles down that highway to another town like that's how basic it was so it was like that flying in general is dangerous no matter what up there but when i saw saw where I was at and I saw that, like, they're still investigating, they still don't have any information on it.

Speaker 1 Um, from what I've seen last, I was shocked because that's such a normal, basic route they do thousands of thousands of times a year. Wow, that's crazy.
What airline was it? It was Bering Air.

Speaker 1 Bearing air, I haven't heard of that one. So, they're an Alaska-only airline, and that's also the thing is the plane was a caravan.

Speaker 1 And when I was up there flying, they had like the small little fly, the little puddle hoppers and stuff, like four-seaters. Yeah, and you had like some of the bigger ones.

Speaker 1 uh bearing air caravan is like one of the bigger planes up there for the bush so it's a really sturdy tough will plane it could like the icing if you ever heard of like icing on a plane like yeah how to do it in dc yeah okay yeah up there they have planes up there that just they can de-ice when they're flying and burying whoa yeah it's not like a full scale like they're smaller but not like a full scale like what you get before you take off in the air uh commercial airplane but um

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Speaker 1 There's still, I'm still curious, like, like, cause there's no Mayday. There was no, hey, we're going down.
There was no transmission. Like, I'm very,

Speaker 1 it's the most mysterious plane crash I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 Yeah. When there's a one-off crash, it's, it's definitely mysterious.
But when there's this many back-to-back, it's like, what's going on? And completely unrelated.

Speaker 1 Like the one in dc compared to the one alaska no relation whatsoever they didn't cut down pilots you know they're just completely unrelated it's and there's one in philly you know oh the philly one yeah just like back to back it seems like every week yeah it makes you really wonder like like is this just like we haven't had plane crashes in a while so now everyone's falling out of the sky or is like there's something else going on here like it's definitely made me more scared to fly to be honest yeah i i thought about that flying today and i really felt especially for the i felt for the the dc one and the alaska one hits hard to home because i'm thinking all the time i think when i'm flying commercial i'm like oh i'm safe like what would actually happen like i can't imagine you know being on a plane that you know is like 100 guaranteed to get there and you're like a crash is where compared to alaska and almost every flight in alaska is nerve-wracking because of the ice the ice i've taken off in like 50 mile per hour wind with snow coming down.

Speaker 1 Like these pilots are good. That's the other thing about that crash in Alaska.
These pilots are really, really good flying really well-weathered planes and stuff.

Speaker 1 Like they know what they're doing, even though it looks crazy. The turbulence up there is nothing compared to what you've done now, like down here, like in a small plane, like flying up.

Speaker 1 My buddy cracked his head one time flying up and down. Like it's, it's

Speaker 1 some of the flying up there is wild. Yeah, because it's snowing nonstop, right? You can't see shit.
Yeah, a lot of times it's freaking. The fog is the worst because of fog you can't is when

Speaker 1 the cloud cover is only like 100 feet or 50 feet or something. And that's when they really cancel out.
But like, yeah.

Speaker 1 I want to talk about your UFO horror movie, Redgate, and how that came about. So there's this area that I grew up with in western Montana.
And it's a valley in the town called Deer Lodge.

Speaker 1 And above the valley is this area where we've had all these weird UFO sightings.

Speaker 1 There was like a quadruple like murder, homicide, suicide up there.

Speaker 1 There was just all these crazy things. happened in this area called Redgate.
And there's, it's well documented.

Speaker 1 There's, there was a film like 20 20 years ago came out and it documented all these bizarre alien happenings in this area so i always wanted to do a movie on it because it was used to be a campfire tale we would tell each other around the campfire and the story goes there used to be back in like the 1800s this community that lived up in the mountains and they had like a schoolhouse all these things a little village or whatever and this guy one day came home from his homestead picked up an axe and chopped up his wife and two kids and then went out to his homestead and painted his gate red with their blood geez and that was the original folklore of red gate um that people would tell around the campfire because you know the gate was red from their blood so then it kind of morphed from that into ufo happenings up there like there's this big power transistor up there where the power lines run through and there's like a lot of energy coming from that so it's just like this really bizarre area

Speaker 1 what did you uncover during that

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 I uncovered

Speaker 1 that a lot of it was pretty wild. Like we would have our cars would stop working.
We were up there. We just like, they would stop working.

Speaker 1 We had weird phone calls. I was driving home one night and I had a car follow me when I was investigating this.
Really?

Speaker 1 It was literally following me all the way home and I turned and it like just disappeared completely. What? Yeah, what people talk about like the men in black and stuff.
Yeah. Like, it's pretty real.

Speaker 1 Like, holy crap when you're doing this ufo like investigation stuff like bizarre things happen um i woke up one day i saw a black car like in my alley like just sitting there like looking at me then i like grabbed a glass of water drank it and put my head up in the black car and it completely like disappeared completely damn they got some sort of cloaking technology yeah weird like the men in black's a real thing like like it's They have something going on.

Speaker 1 It's super bizarre. You think it's government or you think it's some sort of organization? I i think it's part government it's part organization like um area 51 the stuff that comes out of there um

Speaker 1 100 the government's involved to some extent and there is a hundred percent some kind of secret alien type technology that they are holding back what it is what they found if you ever go um

Speaker 1 to roswell i i went down to roswell and if you ever go down the roswell check out roswell it's it's not the smallest actually kind of big but roswell the history of that and all they covered up with that isn't it'll blow your mind really the Roswell Museum in New Mexico will blow you like like there's certain things that are like okay that could be a hoax but Roswell they covered that thing up like there's something something went on there like something huge went on there they completely covered the whole thing up that was the first major one right Roswell Roswell was because they had the the pilot of it come out with this fake like styrophone um

Speaker 1 like tin foil looking stuff that he tried claiming that was what was actually on the airplane that crashed or the ufo that crashed the truth is that was not actually on the ufo it was like something completely different and they're like just go out there and just make up something about this stuff and we'll just make sure no one knows what's actually going on like wow it's wild that is nuts i need to look more into that i remember seeing documentaries about that one years ago yeah yeah but you never know what to believe because then you look at who makes a documentary yeah and it could just be someone trying to like project a certain message.

Speaker 1 Oh, 100%. Yeah.
100%.

Speaker 1 But like, yeah, at the Roswell Museum, like you could spend all day in that thing like researching all like the documented reports the document eyewitness accounts all these things it's it's wild what was the biggest thing that stood out to you in that museum oh the eyewitness accounts okay so there's multiple of those there's like nine there's some like nine people that went to a wreckage site to describe something that was completely different than what the government put out there um there are people that were threatened not to say certain things um

Speaker 1 the the amount of eyewitness accounts from roswell would blow your mind if you ever went down there and checked it out Yeah, nine is a lot, especially if they don't know each other, just nine separate people.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like there is so many documented eyewitness accounts that describe something completely different.

Speaker 1 And then, like, the bodies or whatever they were talking about, they took it to a couple of different air bases or whatever, and no one knows exactly what they did with it.

Speaker 1 They like, it was just, it's crazy. Wow.
And that happened right outside like a Air Force Base or whatever, a base down there that they're operating out of. So like, there's so much stuff with it.

Speaker 1 You ever see any UFOs in Alaska? I personally haven't.

Speaker 1 I was up there quite a ways. We get the northern lights or whatever.
But they used to have one of the craziest stories up in Alaska.

Speaker 1 I could never verify if this is true or not, is the story of the Ishi Guck.

Speaker 1 And since you're in Alaska, super remote, the ice freezes in the winter. So you can walk out to the ocean for like miles because it's all frozen.
Yeah, miles.

Speaker 1 And they had this story of like, they would see these people out there in the middle of the ocean with like a lantern or something light. And it looked like they were struggling.

Speaker 1 so these people be like oh shoot they're struggling someone's like walking around the coast i'm gonna go out there and try to see if they're helping or whatever so they walk and keep walking this light would keep going and going they keep following this light and then they'd get out all the way out there and there'd be like nobody there and then the person would get lost and like disappear and no one to hear from again holy crap yeah they called it the issue gook because the issue gook with these uh mythological legend these people that uh lived in alaska but they live like underground or something they just come out with these weird lights and stuff and like just confuse people like it was really i wonder if that's a siren maybe too yeah yeah who knows could be a siren yeah for sure yeah there's so many things that i believe in you know yeah i'm very conspiratorial no it's wild like everything's like the moon landing's crazy um i've researched that over and over i i've debunked some of it but there's still so much

Speaker 1 Which part did you debunk about the moon landing?

Speaker 1 A lot of people said the phone call all the way up there. Yeah.
That doesn't make sense, but then you say says with the F radio transmission from Houston, they just put the phone up to it or whatever.

Speaker 1 The footage, I still have a tough time with the footage, how they shot that.

Speaker 1 And they said, I read recently they actually put a camera up to like an Australian broadcast because they could only get it from Australia or something and relate it back to the United States. But

Speaker 1 do you ever hear about the

Speaker 1 Shining Director?

Speaker 1 No, I didn't hear that one.

Speaker 1 They did, this guy broke this all the way down.

Speaker 1 The guy that did

Speaker 1 all his movies.

Speaker 1 Stanley Kubrick. Okay.
Stanley Kubrick, Kubrick's Odyssey. This guy does a whole entire conspiracy video called Kubrick's Odyssey.

Speaker 1 And he breaks down how Kubrick was hired to shoot the moon landing to fake it in a studio.

Speaker 1 And within the movie, The Shining, he shows all these hints throughout the entire movie showing that, hey, the moon landing was fake. There's all it's crazy.

Speaker 1 Like all these, like there's this rock and moonship in one of the scenes, the carpet, like all these things within the movie, the shining, he's trying to reveal to everybody that, hey, look, the moon landing is faked, and this is how we did it.

Speaker 1 That's nuts. And that's in the movie, The Shining? The Shining.
It's in the movie, The Shining, like all these hints and clues.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I think there's a very valid argument. that some of the footage might have been faked or shot somewhere.
I think that's probably the most valid conspiracy I have. Yeah, I've heard that too.

Speaker 1 It still befuddles me how they could get a camera. You look at the weather and everything up there, how they could get a camera mounted and all these things and shoot it all and

Speaker 1 have it like. I didn't even think about that.
Yeah. Mounting a camera up there is probably super difficult.

Speaker 1 And then like, okay, why we didn't go back? And people always blame like it was too expensive.

Speaker 1 I've heard so many explanations that don't make any sense. Like on planet Earth, we still are discovering new discoveries.

Speaker 1 You're telling me there's nothing on the moon within like how many trips they did that you can't discover anything new that, like, you know, that's not a good reason, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like, what, what would, like, you know, we're done with that. Now we're going to do the space station or whatever.
And it's just, yeah, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Speaker 1 I get the cost, but it's like, yeah, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. That's interesting.
What about Mars? You think we sent rovers to Mars? I think so.

Speaker 1 I don't know for sure. Some people are theorizing they're like in the U.S., like they're just in the desert somewhere.
I've seen videos of people reenacting the desert and the Mars videos.

Speaker 1 I think Mars is a really curious one that Elon Mass Musk thinks that we're going to get people to Mars. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is he really going to do that? Or is that just like a smokescreep or something else? Interesting. Yeah.
Yeah. It's hard to figure out Elon Musk, right? Oh, that guy's all over the place.

Speaker 1 He's, I've studied him a lot. He's genius.

Speaker 1 He has that like autistic. I was bullied as a kid, so I want to like deep down side,

Speaker 1 make the world pay or whatever.

Speaker 1 And like, he has that characteristic to him 100 oh but yeah he's he's really interesting guy yeah he's he's a tough nut to crack man especially now that he's in politics it's like all right what's your angle here yeah i'm always looking at that i mean angle for more money for his programs and all those things but i'm always like what's the ultimate goal being directly involved in politics yeah yeah 100

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 so haunted houses you've been any of those i saw your youtube yeah yeah i've been in uh several haunted houses we have a

Speaker 1 I live out in Montana. The old, it's where I grew up in prison town, Montana, where's the actual prison is located.

Speaker 1 And the prison used to be located in town. And then they moved it out of town a couple miles.
And the old prison is a museum now. And that place is haunted.

Speaker 1 Like, they do ghost tours in there, like all the time.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 we used to run, we did a theater group and they used to do theatrical performances. They had this stage inside the old prison.
And we get keys to the prison.

Speaker 1 And we would go into the old prison afterwards and do our own ghost tours and stuff. Wow.

Speaker 1 And you'd hear crazy things. It's been on all kinds of different channels, like the history channel and stuff.
You'd hear, you'd get some people who have felt stuff.

Speaker 1 Just, and they still do it today. They'll, they'll like, people will pay to get locked in the prison for an entire night.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they will pay. They'll like, they'll pay to get locked in there for an entire night and get the entire like experience.
I would hate that.

Speaker 1 So, like, yeah, we're going through these old cell blocks at like midnight in the pitch dark, and all you got is like some of the street lights coming out from uh the street it's just so creepy

Speaker 1 yeah just the unsettling feeling of what's with me in this room right now is like creepy right yeah and yeah you hear stuff and there's like this one room where there's this priest or whatever they said there are satanic rituals that went on in this room um this guy was killed here and then he had he had a prison riot uh years ago where like people died and everything they're like see you have this tower they'll go in see if they hear anything um geez just super creepy stuff have you tried talking to them with a spirit box

Speaker 1 We did Eeve

Speaker 1 recorder. Yeah.
We did record a long time ago. And I would take the audio files, then break them down.

Speaker 1 It always feels like you pulled up something. I didn't quite pull up anything like huge, but there are definitely some things where I was like, okay, scary enough.
I'm going to stop doing this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's hard to get

Speaker 1 definitive like evidence.

Speaker 1 It's really hard. I've watched the Ghost Hunters a lot.
The Ghost Hunters actually went in the old prison, but it's like, it's hard to get something like definitive.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because I feel like they're in a different dimension they are i think so too i think so the spirit realm and our realm i think are two completely different yeah that's why whenever you see the photos are like so blurry it's like yeah i don't even know what that is you know what do you think do you believe in like all worlds theory or multi multi worlds or like multiple dimensions like there's yeah mandel effect mandel there's unlimited versions you unlimited versions of me i think so yeah 100 there's there's a version of you that's broke drunk laying on the streets right now and there's version of you that's like elon musk or something simulation theory right uh i i 100 believe in simulation i think so i think we're i i believe that's one thing that elon musk says like there's like one in a billion chance that we're not living in that we're base reality like which is crazy yeah i think we're 100 living religion to some extent confirms that religion says there's an afterlife so it's like okay then this is essentially a simulation wow that's a good point yeah they all have their sort of interpretations on afterlife yeah whether it's heaven hell or reincarnation or something and that then that's to me that's basically them and meaning that we're not living in base reality so right it's not one and done done.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
It's not one and done. And I, to some extent, I believe in reincarnation.
We're just going out to the other world, just coming right back in, born again, and then going through it again.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's interesting. I've done past life therapy.
Have you heard of that? Yes. Yeah.
Yeah. That stuff's interesting.
Did you, did you, did they pull up anything?

Speaker 1 Yeah. And it'd be hard to like make up such detailed lives

Speaker 1 for multiple people, you know? Yeah. So I don't know.
I should do that someday. I'm down to try a bunch.

Speaker 1 Like I've done random stuff, like Reiki healing and really i've done hypnosis therapy there's so much on youtube i've tried because they're all all all the stuff's free pretty much you can just like meditate deep meditation yeah i've done a ton of stuff i've done that too the binaural beats meditations yeah how you did the binaural beats dude those are nuts are they have you tried those i've tried some of the higher end ones or whatever they're they really if you really sit there for like an hour yeah yeah they're long monroe institute Have you tried that one?

Speaker 1 I don't think I tried that one. They're the guys that pretty much mastered remote viewing.
Oh, really? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And they have one for like summoning UFOs out of the stars. There's some crazy shit.
Oh, y'all.

Speaker 1 I was doing that as part of the Redgate movie. There was.
For Stephen Greer, right? Stephen Greer, yeah. Stephen Greer.
Yeah. Yeah.
Remote view. I've tried some of those things.

Speaker 1 And they get together, Stephen Greer's groups, they get together and they all meditate on the same things or whatever. And then

Speaker 1 they've had so many UFO-like type sightings at these like huge events they do. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Who knows, man? I tried one like trying to connect with a loved one that diseased. That one freaked me out.

Speaker 1 I got the most unsettling feeling I've ever felt. Really? Yeah.
I had to stop doing it. That's wild.
It felt so weird. Dude, I've done demonology.
What's that?

Speaker 1 Calling on demons,

Speaker 1 get certain tasks done or goals. Holy crap.
That's the thing. I have a, yeah, it's, it's a huge thing.
I have this entire book on demonology.

Speaker 1 When I was doing Redgit, I got into all kinds of crazy stuff. And the demonology, you have like

Speaker 1 all these different legions of demons. You have like the main legion, the main people like Satan.
Lucifer's at the top, obviously.

Speaker 1 So you can call on Lucifer to get done any task you want or, you know, there's this ritual you do, or you can call down to the lower legion.

Speaker 1 So like the reason they say go into like the lower legions of demons is like specific demons

Speaker 1 accomplish specific tasks. So if you want to make like $50 billion this year, just an outrageous or something stupid, there's a specific demon that deals with money.

Speaker 1 So you start out by calling out to Lucifer, and then then you go on to the second level of Legion and this person, and then if there's a third person, a third Legion that you might go lower to that's more specific,

Speaker 1 you call on them. And the way you

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 1 get these demons to come to you or whatever is they all have this pathway that are called pathways and you sit back and you imagine this entire pathway of like for like Lucifer, it's like, it's this desert and then...

Speaker 1 And then you're imagining like a tree and then you're imagining like silver coming out of a tree.

Speaker 1 And then that's how you like summon that demon wow so you do so you summon lucifer then you'll summon the next one then you'll summon the next one and then you put in your request and then they have a way to like unsummon each one holy crap yeah i got you that's intense it was wild i was doing some wild light of candle i was doing some wild stuff with the the demonology for a while damn and did you actually see results from that a mixed a mixed bag um

Speaker 1 so i was doing a lot and i i got some results you know really i always think though if you if you keep it pure and you're not like cursing somebody, like you can go on Etsy.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you notice there's all these different love spells you can cast on anybody. And on Etsy, you can cast death spells on people.
No way. On Etsy?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can go on Etsy and cast a death spell on someone you don't like. They should probably ban that before they get sued.
I know, also.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I was like researching all these spells when I was doing red gate, trying to figure out where this energy comes from.

Speaker 1 ghost energy, aliens, all this stuff. So I got all that stuff.

Speaker 1 And I was like, I was going through like all these spells on etsy and like some were like like horrible negative spells you can put on someone you don't like i definitely feel like there's like evil eye spells and stuff oh i try to cleanse every pretty often you should i do the egg cleanse and i do other cleanses yeah i was in alaska and i ran a church a catholic church in alaska and part of the church we didn't have priests up there like american priests and we would fly priests in from all over and once we flew in a nigerian priest and after church one day i was like okay i've heard about like voodoo and all that stuff is that stuff like real like I mean come on you're a Catholic priest that stuff's not like real or whatever he's like oh no it's very real damn he's like it is very real like like people have done stuff and you can see it actually happen it's like he's he told me so many stories about like they would cast these voodoo spells on people and legit it would happen like something horrible would happen that person One of my psychic mentors told me the power in Nigeria.

Speaker 1 And I think he said Brazil too. They just have some really dark powers over there for some reason.
They do. They do.

Speaker 1 So I was like shocked to hear that from him. He's going into details like, wow.
It's wild. Dude, that's nuts.
So those voodoo dolls, like there's some actual truth to those. Oh, 100%.
100%.

Speaker 1 There's truth to like all of it. And then people believe in karma.

Speaker 1 If you do something to someone that comes back to those other ones, like some of these death spells are like, oh, don't worry about we'll do a karma prayer afterwards or whatever.

Speaker 1 That person will die, but you'll be fine. That's crazy.
No, I definitely believe in karma. Yeah.
Oh, 100%. Yeah.
Like what goes around comes around.

Speaker 1 If you're cheating on your girlfriend or whatever, it's going to come back around.

Speaker 1 I've never heard a karma perch, though. That sounds like an excuse.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't know about that one. I say it's a ricochet with the spells or whatever.
If you do any negative spells or whatever,

Speaker 1 he's back, but I don't know. I feel like it'll chase you in the next life if you don't address it in this life.
Oh, 100%. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
All right. That's no nuts.

Speaker 1 Used to live stream a little bit, right? Yeah. Yeah, I was like, so I got into live stream on TikTok two years ago.
It was way hotter then, in my opinion, than it is now.

Speaker 1 It was just wild because I was like, before then, I didn't know. I tried all these different things to make money online.

Speaker 1 And that was the first time I started making like real money online is live streaming on TikTok. And

Speaker 1 the way they do it is you go in, you hang out for a little while, talk to your crowd, and they do these TikTok live battles. I don't know how many people know of those.
The rap battles.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the rap battles. Yeah, I've seen those.
The virtual battles. And people will send like virtual gifts to you for like a five-minute period.

Speaker 1 And it's a way of, it's, it was kind of created as a way for people to support you that follow you and like your content or whatever. And

Speaker 1 I was heavy into that for a while because it was just fun and you can make money.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 it's just got to me, I got out of it. It just got so corrupt with the money stuff because people would recycle on there.
Do you know what recycling is? No, it isn't.

Speaker 1 So like people got, we added money, people care so much about pride and looking good and all these things. So what they would do during these battles is they would recycle.

Speaker 1 So what recycling is like, okay, we're friends. You battled tonight.
I'll throw you like, I don't know, 100,000 diamonds or whatever. Then in my next battle, you throw me back 100,000 diamonds.

Speaker 1 And the diamonds cost real money. So you're losing money doing it.
But people would, these groups, they recycle back and forth and back and forth. And that's kind of how a lot of that works.

Speaker 1 So you're like, there's a lot of trust involved. So you're like, you trust they're going to like pay you back basically if you pay for them.

Speaker 1 But a lot of that money stuff got so corrupt that people would be willing to almost lose money doing it just to look good. Wow.
So like I go to battles.

Speaker 1 I got to a point, you know, where I would, I used to be like, like, a good battle for me when they first started was like 10,000 to like 9,000 or something.

Speaker 1 Now it's like people are scoring like a million diamonds in a battle. Holy crap.
And how much US dollars is that? A million diamonds in a battle is.

Speaker 1 Let's see, that would be, I think it's like $5,000. Damn.
Yeah. For an hour? That's really good money.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But most of it was recycled. Yeah.
A lot of it was recycled. The most I made ever was like, well, I had a big throw out of nowhere and he threw me um

Speaker 1 like i got three thousand dollars like an hour holy crap so it's like like the high end is cool but it's so corrupt like these guys that throw also get taken this guy on that stream that night there's we were doing boxes which is four different people in a box and there's this kid he's in one of those asian countries or whatever um his name is bear and just nice kid scam artist

Speaker 1 but they'll do it from these different countries they'll just beg and then made up all kinds of stories he's sick he's this he's whatever this guy went off the app and started sending this kid money, sent him over $800,000.

Speaker 1 What? Yeah. Sent him, like ruined his business everything.
Like in the end, he said the total, like my buddy's like, yeah, the total is $800,000. Just

Speaker 1 to rap? Just...

Speaker 1 He got in. They get in through the battles or whatever.
And they're like, oh, please be super nice. Thank you.

Speaker 1 Thank you. And like all these things, all these people do these 50 different countries.
They try to get connected with an American that has a bunch of money. Oh, like a whale.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like a whale, like a whale they want to get a whale and then get that whale and do anything and like i i need to pay for my family this or that and this is going on and then they'll just make up anything wow and this this guy just this kid just took him well he's probably backed by his family just took him for every single cent he was worth like a sugar daddy yeah yeah holy crap that was nuts it was freaky wild and then you moved into other avenues on of making money did you get into meme coins uh meme coins i'm just breaking the meme coins so i started with meme coins there's this guy for the Super Bowl, and he was banking on the Kansas City Chiefs to like three Pete in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So he had this Casey three-peat coin.
And

Speaker 1 I'm like, oh, that's cool. So he paid me some money, but he paid me a lot in like Solana or whatever.
Mean coin stuff. So like, I was like, oh, cool.
So I'll just hold it. I held it, held it, held it.

Speaker 1 And I was like, okay, this might, if it bursts open, it could be worth a lot. I'll just cash out when I'm done or whatever.
Cause that's, that's why, that's how he's going to pay me.

Speaker 1 And then, um, well, Casey didn't three beat.

Speaker 1 Casey,

Speaker 1 got ruined by like 50 billion points. And so it's like,

Speaker 1 coin tanked from there, but coin tanked completely. I cashed out for like five cents or something.
Damn. How much was it at first?

Speaker 1 I get up. It wasn't that high.
It got up to like $500 when I was promoting. Oh, okay.
I mean, yeah, the value of it was, well, my share, it was like 10 million coins. Yeah.
$500.

Speaker 1 You were hoping for like 100x on that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was, well, I was thinking, well, if I hold on to it, if they win the Super bowl it could it could go up up up up and then my brother was on his coinbase like you do you know there's like a bunch of kc three peak coins like oh maybe i don't have the winning lottery ticket that's how meme coins work

Speaker 1 yeah the yeah once once one's made they just copy them and you never know which one's a real one to buy yeah yeah so then after that i took whatever i had it was like a hundred bucks i tried launching my own meme coin which i didn't really know what i was doing so that i don't think it even set it up right or whatever no that's a tough space dude yeah i watched i watched a youtube video so now I'm going to be launching another official actual meme coin here coming up.

Speaker 1 We're not sure what we're going to call it. Maybe Bad to Poin,

Speaker 1 something like that, just a meme like the jokes I do online or whatever. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's cool. We got to go back to the NFL real quick.
Do you think the NFL is rigged?

Speaker 1 100%.

Speaker 1 I think 100% to some degree these games are rigged. You go back to the 70s, there's this mobster that had actual information that says, look, the mob bosses own more of the NFL than you realize.

Speaker 1 The NFL was originally created by people who wanted to gamble money on sports. Like football was created by those owners.
That was the original idea of football.

Speaker 1 And the mob would tell, these guys would say, like, there'd be so many games, the mob would have so much money on the games.

Speaker 1 A quarterback would throw any reception here or there just to make sure this hit or that hit.

Speaker 1 I had information on the Dallas Cowboys Green Bay Packers game, the playoff game.

Speaker 1 I had information from one of my sources in Vegas that Jerry Jones threw that game intentionally and only a couple of people knew about it. Wow.

Speaker 1 Because I'm watching this game and I'm thinking, how in the world do the Cowboys be that freaking good? And Green Bay is a little bit hot coming in. They won a couple games in a row.

Speaker 1 The Cowboys are that freaking good and suddenly

Speaker 1 Dak plays horrible. But if you watch that Cowboys Packers game,

Speaker 1 there's players where there's not a defender within 20 yards of a Packers receiver. Jeez.
Like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Like you go from one of the best defenses in Dan Quinn's in Washington now, who just made the playoffs.

Speaker 1 You tell me that guy suddenly can't call a defensive game plan where there's not a defender within 20 yards of a receiver. Like there's stuff like that.
And then you go with the Pat Mahomes stuff.

Speaker 1 They 100%

Speaker 1 give calls to great players. Michael Jordan got in the 90s.

Speaker 1 Tom Rady, the last couple of years in New England,

Speaker 1 the year they made it to the Super Bowl, there are so many missed calls that went in New England's favor magically and they lost the Eagles. But like, there's so much stuff.

Speaker 1 There's so much money involved with every single game. Like,

Speaker 1 there's just

Speaker 1 no way some of that stuff isn't rigged. Yeah.
I wonder what Jerry Jones' angle would be because he's already a billionaire. Yeah, that was my whole thing.
I don't know what his angle was exactly

Speaker 1 on that, but someone's told me something within Vegas.

Speaker 1 Something to do with Jerry Jones. So I have no clue, but like, there's just so much there.
It's just crazy. Well, the betting market's bigger than the actual sports now, right? It's gotten that big.

Speaker 1 The betting market's huge, and I'm huge in the sports betting. A lot of it, so that's the other

Speaker 1 argument back and forth of that. If it's just simple, like Vegas never loses.
There's not, there's not huge buildings out here because Vegas loses. They never lose.
But

Speaker 1 you can track who Vegas wants to win.

Speaker 1 And that's kind of why it's hard. If you just knew who Vegas wants to win, what wouldn't you just bet that? If it was that simple, everybody would do that.

Speaker 1 But it's a lot more difficult than just figuring out who Vegas wants to win.

Speaker 1 Like the Super Bowl this past year, I tracked everything and Vegas, for the most part, during the NFL season, took a beating from the public. Really? They, yeah, they, like,

Speaker 1 MGM guys were telling me like they really, really needed the Eagles to win the Super Bowl. Oh, wow.
Like, oh, the Chiefs were favored?

Speaker 1 They're favored by a little bit, not much.

Speaker 1 There were a bunch of Sharps that were on the Eagles. I still didn't know which way the game was going to go, but

Speaker 1 all the books that I had information on all said that they needed the Eagles. Then they're not going to go under if the Eagles lose.

Speaker 1 But to make a profit on that season as a whole or do well,

Speaker 1 they really needed the Philadelphia Eagles to win that game.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 yeah, the Eagles crushed it. Another one, like, where Vegas won big on is, say, like Saquon Barkley, for example,

Speaker 1 to score a touchdown. in the Super Bowl.
You're like, okay, that seems pretty straightforward. Why the heck would that guy not score a touchdown?

Speaker 1 Their offense is moving up and down the field, you know, and a ton, a ton of money was on Saquon to score a touchdown from the public and sharps and everything else.

Speaker 1 And yeah, magically, he didn't score a touchdown.

Speaker 1 So, like, there's stuff that's like, okay, what's up? That's interesting. Yeah, like, you think the Eagles would at least do that thing where, like, they didn't do the Walter Payer.

Speaker 1 Like, okay, just give him the ball. Let him score the Super Bowl.
He had like the best season of all time, right? He almost hit 2,000 yards to see.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he would have hit 2,000, but they pulled him in his last game. I saw the clip of that.
Yeah. Yeah.
no he was crazy are you profitable on sports betting no

Speaker 1 makes sense and if you go on these pick sites like pick watch there's like a little pick watch it's like five bucks a seat all the expert picks and they have like the expert picks like hardly anybody's profitable really it's only there's only like one or two percent of people that sports bet are actually profitable damn and it's through value betting you find value in plays and equal value betting and or arbitrages arbitrages you go on different books and you'll bet one way then the other way and then it doesn't matter who wins you'll still make something my buddy used to do that but then he said a whale came in and wrecked him oh really yeah he used to make like uh like seven figures a year doing that oh really arbitrage yeah a million dollars plus a year and then one one day some heavy whale just wrecked everything gosh that's the thing i yeah so i do it for fun or you can sell picks that's kind of fun but the people selling picks like

Speaker 1 it's a bad look it's a dirty business it's a bad look i've tried doing that but it's it's just so dirty i was just i did it like a couple weeks ago and the ones i posted publicly every single one lost for free Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Of an oversight.
It's like you said, only 1% of people make money. Those 1% are not selling picks because if they did, they wouldn't be 1%.

Speaker 1 Exactly. If you're making money sports betting, why would you sell your picks? Yeah, you'd make less because then everyone knows your picks and the lines would get messed up.
Yeah, they would. Yeah.

Speaker 1 100%.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. It doesn't make sense at all.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, Patrick, it's been cool, man. Where can people find you and see what you're up to? Oh, it's just Patrick W.
Color on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter.

Speaker 1 It's the same across the board. So, yeah.
Cool. Stay tuned, guys.
I'll link everything below. Thanks for watching.