The Evolution of Power Slapping: Inside the Sport | Da Crazy Hawaiian DSH #1269

Speaker 1 He looked at me. I looked at him.
I was like, I don't know what to do, but I'm pointing at you.

Speaker 1 I'm here for you. You know, so it's

Speaker 1 You're not mentally prepared for that. You may get lost in it.
Yeah. And forget all your training.

Speaker 1 It happened to me.

Speaker 1 And I watched some fights back. I'm like, damn, you got lost.
What the hell was I doing? Disappointed.

Speaker 1 All right, guys, we got the crazy Hawaiian here, one of of the best slappers of all time. Let's go.
Thank you. I appreciate that entrance right there.
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 No one introduced me as one of the best of all time. I think you're on the Mount Rushmore right now.
Oh, for sure. For sure.

Speaker 1 That's a good question,

Speaker 1 if it was a question, but

Speaker 1 Mount Rushmore. Top four.
Top four. You've been at it for longer than most people, too, right? I've been doing it before COVID.

Speaker 1 Ron

Speaker 1 Beta, Bata, Wolverine. We me and him started the same exact date.
Wow. Yeah.
It was just

Speaker 1 a dive bar in

Speaker 1 Branson, Missouri. Oh, okay.
Yeah. I thought you were going to say the Russian League.
I went to the Russian.

Speaker 1 Well, I dethroned one of their kings, and then

Speaker 1 they all just kind of flew back home.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah.

Speaker 1 The guy that started off doing it in Russia. He wanted to, you know, move down to America and try it out.
He bought one of his champs, and they didn't know

Speaker 1 what there was here, untapped land for them or whatever. But we have warriors.
We've been starting it already. And dethroned one of their kings, and then they went home.

Speaker 1 Then they came back. We bought them back.

Speaker 1 Now they're fighting a power slap or no? Now we got the Dumpling, which is a superhero champion. who dethroned me.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I felt honored to lose to that guy for sure. Yeah, you fought him twice, right? Yeah.
So

Speaker 1 it's got to be Wolverine, me.

Speaker 1 I mean, American Mount Rushmore. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know. The other two is kind of a toss-up.
It's such a new sport. Yeah, it's new.
We'll see. Time will tell, I think.
Time will tell, but we ain't going nowhere.

Speaker 1 If you haven't been there in person, you wouldn't know. Dude, I watched your first fight in person with Dumpling.
Every time you slap him, I thought he was going to get knocked out.

Speaker 1 I don't know how he takes those hits. It's crazy.
i mean it is tough dude you know some guys just got it you know when you when you want oh oh man i want to try this you know

Speaker 1 it's all about taking the hit anyone can whack somebody and knock them out you know i mean so you think defense is more important 100 defense wins championship that's what they say with basketball yeah for sure uh i think i believe in that um I stand by that.

Speaker 1 If you got a glass chin, this is probably not something that you want to do. How much of that is genetic, the chin strength versus training? A lot.
I would say 75% of it, at least.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 there's a lot of Hawaiians coming in on it, you know, and

Speaker 1 they're bigger people, wider people.

Speaker 1 And it's just

Speaker 1 bigger bases of people.

Speaker 1 And you know what? Taller people are actually...

Speaker 1 like through experience are becoming one of the harder people to beat is that because the angle of the slab is is higher? Yeah, and the taller you are, the better.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because they got to hit upwards. Yeah, you got to.
And then there's a point in the trajectory where you lose power so far up. You know, you won't be able to knock somebody down.

Speaker 1 Wow, so someone seven foot should enter this and just sweep everyone.

Speaker 1 I got a secret weapon. He's seven foot three.
Oh, my gosh. Big white boy.
That's nuts. Yeah.
And how much does he weigh?

Speaker 1 Probably almost 500 pounds. Holy shit.
Are there divisions that even do that? Super heavyweight. Oh, my God.
You don't get no cap. There's no cap.
There's no weight limit. That guy can't lose.

Speaker 1 There's no way anyone can knock him out.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 he hasn't been touched like that before. Doing,

Speaker 1 he's been doing football. Yeah.
And that's a big thing, too. You know, being able to take a hit.

Speaker 1 It's kind of like a football hit. You lead with your head.
And

Speaker 1 you'd be surprised, man.

Speaker 1 Some of these big guys, you know, you can be big and all that, but if you don't got a chin, it's just not possible.

Speaker 1 And you probably know the exact point where to hit and the exact pressure by now, right? And then, uh, I do also, when I hold seminars, I actually ask people, Where do you think you need to hit?

Speaker 1 Just point to it. And a lot of people say, Back here, and this and that.
And the question is, where do you think you need to place your hand?

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Speaker 1 Yeah, I've done it long enough to know. And some guys, they're just genetics are different.
So

Speaker 1 you got to hit them certain places, but it's, it's literally right here.

Speaker 1 Oh, down here.

Speaker 1 Where you need to place your hand, we need to get hit.

Speaker 1 Because anywhere else, you know,

Speaker 1 you can tell. You can just tell when you actually do it.
When you're watching it, you're like, wow. Because, you know, people's hands are so big.
Right. And you don't know.

Speaker 1 Like, they're hitting with their whole hand. But the base of it is like kind of the bottom part over here.
And you don't want to lead with that. It's illegal to lead with your palm for sure.

Speaker 1 So you can't go like this. You cannot lead with your palm at all.
So when you make connection, they slow-mo it. You need to land like this.

Speaker 1 But the base of your power, at the end point of your power, is like right around here. Right.
Obviously.

Speaker 1 You can't knock somebody out without using your palm.

Speaker 1 Makes sense. All to it.
But the point of contact, it has to be flush. Your hand to their face.
It's got to be seamless. It's got to be seamless.
It's got to sound like a slap, look like a slap.

Speaker 1 People overthink it, man.

Speaker 1 They're like, oh, it couldn't be that bad. It couldn't be that hard.
I see people that were doing MMA professionally and they rip. They're just on point.
You can tell that they're focused.

Speaker 1 But there's a science to it. There's a technique.
Yeah. And

Speaker 1 people give us respect after the fact, after they compete. There's a lot that goes into it because you only got three chances.
So like if you mess up, that's one of your turns, right? Right.

Speaker 1 Well, three chances, but if you flinch, you get hit again in one round. Right.
And a lot of people flinch. The the fight I went to.
Right. I flinch.
It's natural to flinch. It's natural.

Speaker 1 I would strongly advise not to watch it come and find a spot on their body because when you watch it come, you anticipate it.

Speaker 1 And the whole point of not flinching or the whole thing of not flinching is

Speaker 1 crazy to me. You don't think that should be a thing? Well, no, no.
What I'm saying is, you know, when you flinch, try to teach someone not to flinch.

Speaker 1 And it's a mind thing. You know you're getting hit.
You know you're going to get blasted in the face.

Speaker 1 It's a mind thing. It's trying to get yourself to a cool place in your head so you know not to flinch.
Even me, I like flinch and I'm like, I have to watch back the replay. I'm standing there.

Speaker 1 I don't give a fuck how much time I have. I'm watching.
I'm waiting. I'm looking.
Like, wow, I did flinch. Okay, I'll take another stop.
You know, I wrote the rules. Oh, you did? Yes.

Speaker 1 Oh, I didn't know this.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I started my own promotion with my partner in California. And it was called Chinchek Slapdown.

Speaker 1 But before that, I was doing it for

Speaker 1 Slap Fight Championship. And I wasn't getting paid.
You were just doing it for fun? Well, the first one I did, I was like, man, I was really curious. I wanted to do it.

Speaker 1 I did it for free, willingly.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. I just wanted to try it out, you know, because before power slapping or any slapping, I worked here in Vegas

Speaker 1 as a bouncer of many clubs.

Speaker 1 My brother was pretty much my boss.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 instead of, you know, punching somebody, slapping them on the streets is

Speaker 1 a wake up, like, oh, snap, I just got slapped. I better not.
mess with this guy, you know? Because people,

Speaker 1 you know, they like to test.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 back in the day it slapping somebody was just more of a hello you don't want to get punched like that do you

Speaker 1 like a warning right and I just started accidentally knocking people out with slaps

Speaker 1 oh my god like knock them out glasses fly everywhere I'm like oh man I'm just grabbing this glass putting back in his pocket I used to be nice you know it was

Speaker 1 you used to be just a warning that's nuts and I was at knocking these guys out accidentally and my brother was like, oh, you should do this. Send me a video of a slapping.
I was like,

Speaker 1 now, fast forward,

Speaker 1 I'm one of the greatest that ever did it in America. That's nuts, man.
How many fights have you been in so far? Almost 20. Holy crap.
I'd say

Speaker 1 about 19. What's your record?

Speaker 1 It is

Speaker 1 19 total, right?

Speaker 1 So it is what?

Speaker 1 Two losses, right? Two losses and one draw.

Speaker 1 What is that? Seven.

Speaker 1 16, one and two. 16,

Speaker 1 1-1. Or two losses, right? Two and one.
Yeah. Well, you lost to the same guy twice, so.
Yeah, 16. Well, no.

Speaker 1 The first one was a draw. Oh, it was? So it was.
So it's

Speaker 1 2-1. Okay.
Because I did lose to another Russian guy

Speaker 1 that the dumpling lost to as well. Oh, really? So there's a guy better than Dumpling?

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 yeah, it's a guy better than Dumpling.

Speaker 1 and i challenged him before i challenged dumpling and i lost him he actually dropped me damn he didn't knock me out but he dropped me is that the first time you've ever been dropped no first time i've ever been dropped rocked or anything wow yeah but it it was it was so it was politics at that point you know they came with their whole team and the whole official team like no one spoke speak a lick of english no no english was spoken in the bout

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 but before the match uh they was told they was telling me my my strike was illegal Oh really? Because I used to come I used to come really down, you know, down at my hip. And uh

Speaker 1 really not my hand was when I started my trajectory, it started at my knee. Holy shit.
And people people do that now

Speaker 1 and that was like comfortable for me. But now that I try to do it, it's uncomfortable because I've learned a new technique since that time

Speaker 1 and now I just adapt to it. Oh, so you got a new technique? Yeah, 100% new technique.
So you don't wind back as much? No, don't wind back as much. It's the placement, it's accuracy and speed.

Speaker 1 But when I challenged this guy, his name is Zalez, Z-A-L-E-S.

Speaker 1 He beat the dumpling.

Speaker 1 So I was like, I'm going to beat the best. I called out the best in the world.
And my team, we could get anybody in the world. to come and stand in front of me and test this theory.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm the best in the world.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 when we hired him, he said, he, Zala said, I want my team to officiate this. Okay, but on my soil.
So we bought these guys from Russia, the whole squad, the officials, the refs, everything, everybody.

Speaker 1 And I was literally the only American on that stage. Damn.
So I actually

Speaker 1 dropped him, but his guys that were the catchers held him up. You can see it on YouTube.
Held him up. There was one guy guy behind him, like this.
The other two had his arm. Hemmed him up

Speaker 1 and stopped him from dropping on the ground.

Speaker 1 Held him up for a good three seconds and then put him, literally put him back

Speaker 1 on the table. So he was out.

Speaker 1 He was out. You can

Speaker 1 dropped back. Boom.
You know, then they caught him. The very next slapped, he did the same thing to me.
No one caught me. No one even helped me just stay there.
I dropped like this.

Speaker 1 Like my butt went back. Yeah.
And I sat down.

Speaker 1 When I got dropped and I sat down, the official, which is another Russian, was cheering and holding my shoulder down, telling me, you lose, you lose, yeah, you lose.

Speaker 1 And I'm trying to get back up.

Speaker 1 Within eight seconds, I was back up. on my own.
I mean, at the time I was like 375. It's hard to pick up somebody that's that big.

Speaker 1 So I got up on my own. Logan Paul was like, this guy's ready to go.
I looked at him. I was like, yes, I'm ready to go.
It's my turn. It's only been eight seconds since I've been dropped.

Speaker 1 They called the fight. Called the fight.
Wow. Yeah.
Is there a time limit, like 10 seconds or something? It was 10. So when you get dropped, it's a 10 count in like boxing.
But

Speaker 1 between the rounds, you get about a minute.

Speaker 1 And at that specific one,

Speaker 1 they gave us more than a minute.

Speaker 1 So when he won, they gave him his little toy belt, and I walked off

Speaker 1 on the stage, and I was just pissed off. Damn, you got to run that back with fair judges.

Speaker 1 He was tested. We were tested, and

Speaker 1 he failed. Yes.
Oh, see, that doesn't even count then. That officially doesn't count.
I count it because I'm just that guy.

Speaker 1 Officially, it doesn't count. I count it.

Speaker 1 What was he on? Steroids? A bunch of steroids. Jeez.
And then now he's doing arm wrestling, and they don't test in arm wrestling. Really?

Speaker 1 It would be very hard for him to

Speaker 1 piss

Speaker 1 negative for anybody. Wow.
I watch those arm wrestling videos sometimes. Yeah, those guys are amazing, bro.
That one white guy with the glasses. Yeah, he doesn't even look like he.

Speaker 1 Nah, he doesn't. He looks like a normal guy.
And he busts out. Boom.
Oh, he beats everyone. He beat out.
Yeah, he beats everyone. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 What do you think it is? Like, just the angle? I don't know. I have no idea.
Because he's not the strongest.

Speaker 1 he's not the strongest he doesn't not the biggest either yeah it must be technique you see the one he he went to the beach and everyone was like uh muscle beach and he channels the biggest guy on the beach yeah i'm like yeah no there's no way he's gonna beat this guy he was playing with the dude

Speaker 1 that's not it's it's crazy yeah

Speaker 1 i gotta find that video i forget his name but that dude's a legend legend i want to get him on the pod there's a guy almost looks like you too he's really a young kid

Speaker 1 and he was glasses and and everything. He purposely makes himself dressed like a dork.

Speaker 1 So when he goes into this gym, people are like, what the heck? That's funny. And he's just

Speaker 1 boom. Damn.
Fast too. Would you ever do arm wrestling?

Speaker 1 When I like work out or lift, I don't like specifically work out my arms.

Speaker 1 More so, like, I love boxing.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 maybe when I start lifting again, I haven't lifted weights since high school. Damn.
Yeah. How are you still slapping then without weightlifting? Well,

Speaker 1 the art of boxing I really love. My IQ is something else.

Speaker 1 That's actually my next career venture. Yes.
Okay. Boxing or bare knuckle or anything combat related.

Speaker 1 That's why I'm dropping this weight because I was 420 pounds about five months ago. Holy crap.
I'm 300. So I lost 120 pounds in five months.
Dude, that's like what, 25 pounds a month? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I walk around, you naturally walk around at 225. I'm a smaller bunch in my family.

Speaker 1 All my brothers, like, I don't know if you know my younger brother, the Hawaiian hitman,

Speaker 1 he's more so built to be a super heavyweight.

Speaker 1 So I was like, bet, if he gets a shot at the title and wins the title,

Speaker 1 I'm going to get a shot at the title eventually. Not the super heavyweight, but a heavyweight.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And for boxing or any combat, you have to be in shape.

Speaker 1 And me at 400 pounds, that's me like grabbing a snack every

Speaker 1 half hour and doing nothing, just watching shows and not working out. So you want to box at 225? Well, I want to be comfortable.
I want to be

Speaker 1 just fit, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I've always just been this big guy.

Speaker 1 And I have opportunity. The platform like PowerSlap, it's an amazing platform.
You know, it's a big one. So, but we're only doing slapping right now

Speaker 1 and when i train you can you i hate training i really just i do you know i'm a lazy guy yeah but

Speaker 1 boxing fighting the art of it um just adrenaline you get when you you know you gotta defend yourself fight you know uh

Speaker 1 i love that that's what gets me going like oh what i get to hit something

Speaker 1 let's go i love it have you boxed before at all or no professionally amateur no uh i just the way i grew up in hawaii there was no gun now there's guns there's no there was no guns really when i grew up i i didn't have a fear like oh somebody's gonna pull out a gun and shoot me the only people that had guns was cops

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 so i grew up in a time where

Speaker 1 what you looking at you know why you looking at me funny you can even look at somebody without without like I remember walking past somebody looking at me funny, and we didn't say one word.

Speaker 1 We just started fighting.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 no cops, nobody, nobody there to stop us. And then after the fight, when me and him, you know, fucked each other up,

Speaker 1 we shook hands. Wow.
And now, and now he's my best friend. Holy crap.
Still to today.

Speaker 1 He's not living in America, but we call each other all the time.

Speaker 1 That's what I grew up doing.

Speaker 1 Fight, fighting.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 the location of where I grew up at is

Speaker 1 it's a one-on-one. And there's no ground.
You guys go to the ground. Someone's there to, everyone's,

Speaker 1 it's like an unspoken rule of where I'm from. Everywhere else, yeah, the ground in pound is okay.
Like, jump on somebody, pull their hair, take them to the ground, or whatever the hell you got to do

Speaker 1 just to win the fight. Where I grew up at,

Speaker 1 we had some of the best boxers in the world, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, Max Holloway is from where I'm from.

Speaker 1 You know, and I think after I graduate, it's only a few more years, about five more years of that like lifestyle of just fighting for the sake of your last name.

Speaker 1 Like, oh, yep, that's the Pelons right there. Oh, that's the Veronicas right there.
Oh, that's the Soteris right there. You know, you don't mess with certain families.

Speaker 1 It's not like that no more, though, which is sad. Guns started flooding in.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't even know how it even happened. I don't know the backstory of how much, why guns are so much now.

Speaker 1 Like, the presence of it.

Speaker 1 And especially where I'm from. Because where I'm from, you get guys that should be world champion in boxing, fighting, or any kind of combat sports, kickboxing.

Speaker 1 So maybe guns was like the cure for that. I don't know.
You know, but

Speaker 1 that part of it, man, it just makes me sad. Yeah.
You know? Yeah, now when you get in a fight with someone, you got to worry about if they got a gun or a knife. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 And if they don't, you know, they got family standing right there. Yeah.
You know? It's almost not even worth it. It's not worth it at all.

Speaker 1 You want to fight? Go do it in the gym. Yeah.
You know, that's why I train my kids now to defend themselves. And I explain to them while I'm doing it.
You know, this is why.

Speaker 1 You know. And

Speaker 1 when I was taught growing up, my dad's a musician, so

Speaker 1 I wasn't really taught to fight.

Speaker 1 You know, a bunch of my family was just musicians, farmers, and

Speaker 1 when I decided, it was after I got beat up,

Speaker 1 I was like, man, I probably should learn how to fight. So what I would do, I would, my family didn't have money, so we couldn't.
go to the gym or anything like that.

Speaker 1 I would stand out the gym, outside the gym, and just watch people train and go home and do the same thing. And I would mirror it.

Speaker 1 But when I finally got into the boxing gym, a boxing coach came up to me and asked me, what, are you right-handed or left? I said, right-handed. He said, well,

Speaker 1 you know what stance you're fighting in, right? I said, no, I don't know. He said,

Speaker 1 you know, South Paul right now. Left-handed do this.
Some right-handers do it. But so I was,

Speaker 1 when I started learning on my own, I was a South Paul.

Speaker 1 And then when I learned at a gym, he taught me the other way around. So I'm amidextrous now with a lot of things.
Wow. So you got both hands? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And the first time I've slapped somebody with my left hand was on the streets and then I knocked them out. And it wasn't even like a full-blown technique.
It was just like,

Speaker 1 you know, I just. Like a half slap? Yeah, it's like half slap.
Like I was just trying to shut him up. Like, stop fucking talking shit.
I'm going to slap you right now.

Speaker 1 And I did it.

Speaker 1 But professionally,

Speaker 1 left-handed slaps, I haven't gotten

Speaker 1 a real knockout yet professionally on my left hand. But I know it's there, you know.
So when my right hand retires from slapping, I have my left.

Speaker 1 I wonder if you could be strategic with it during the fight.

Speaker 1 I did.

Speaker 1 You could use both. Yeah, I did both at one point, but

Speaker 1 it just threw me off, you know, because

Speaker 1 I don't know when to do it. Can't get in rhythm, too, I guess.
Right. And I don't want to put in my head, oh, I'm going to do this on this round.
Because when you're up there, like, it's different.

Speaker 1 You got to take it right back, right? Yeah, you have to adapt on the fly, you know? So, um, and I see some guys out there not being able to do that.

Speaker 1 Just you see them, you see the just the loss in their eyes. They're just going to play them to the crowd.

Speaker 1 Like, when you're up there, when I, when you do it and there's no crowd, it's different from when you do it and there is a crowd. yeah, they start folding under pressure.

Speaker 1 I like that butcher guy, Bordeaux, I think, yeah, because he looks at his opponent in the eyes, right? I mean, that's intimidating, yeah, that's intimidating, bro.

Speaker 1 Some guys close their eyes, some yeah, a lot of mental games going on.

Speaker 1 It's it's 100% mental game.

Speaker 1 Uh, you can tell when you're walking around in the back. This event, I'm a coach, so I can really tell.

Speaker 1 When I'm competing, I don't really pay attention to everyone else,

Speaker 1 but you can tell

Speaker 1 who's mentally lost already. Really? You can tell, 100%.

Speaker 1 Sometimes you can't tell. They're just hyping themselves up, but they're using that energy they need on the stage too early in the back.

Speaker 1 And it's just like if you're not mentally not prepared for it, you can possibly get just adrenaline dump before you even do it. Damn.
And lose all your energy and power. So you got to be conservative.

Speaker 1 You got to be conservative. Some guys can do it, right? You can physically get over that adrenaline dump.
Like, for me, I can't.

Speaker 1 The crazy Hawaiian gets woken up as soon as I start walking up to the stage. But the backstage,

Speaker 1 I'm dormant. I'm chilling.
Like, I can't turn myself on. I know this already until I start walking out.
Until you feed off the energy of the crowd. Yeah, feed off the energy of the crowd.

Speaker 1 I think I'm a specialist with that, like crowd work.

Speaker 1 I coach that too. I don't just coach technique with power and speed and all that, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 I teach them how to

Speaker 1 make the most out of that, what, 15 minutes of fame? Make the most out of it. Look in the crowd, like make a connection with the people you find.

Speaker 1 Looking to see who you can find, you know, famous or not.

Speaker 1 Like, I was up there, I saw Theovan. He looked at me.
I looked at him. I was like, I don't know what to do, but I'm pointing at you.

Speaker 1 I'm here for you. You know, so it's

Speaker 1 you're not mentally prepared for that. You may get lost in it.
Yeah. And then forget all your training.

Speaker 1 It happened to me.

Speaker 1 And I watched some fights back. I'm like, damn.
You got lost? What the hell was I doing? Damn. Disappointed.
Yeah, you can make an impression for sure. You got Andrew Tate coming tonight.

Speaker 1 You know, you can knock it. I wish I was competing for him, but it's all good.
It's all good. He'll be at future ones, I'd imagine.
Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But imagine knocking someone out and then running up to him, getting a photo.

Speaker 1 That's legendary. It's legendary.
Where's he flying in from? Miami. He already flew in.
Well, he lives in Miami? He just moved to Miami, yeah. Smart move.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was in Romania, but they were treating him terribly. Like shit.
Yeah. What did he get arrested for?

Speaker 1 Child trafficking or sex trafficking? Which is something like that. Which was false, right? Yeah, I think they beat that one in Romania.
Yeah. But now Florida's going after him.
Not even.

Speaker 1 They opened up an investigation. What the hell are they looking for? Who knows, man? We'll find out.
Yeah. Yeah.
Shout out to Tate, man. Shout out to Tate.
For the speed of the slap.

Speaker 1 Are you just trying to go as fast as possible, basically? Um, speed is everything, brother. You can be

Speaker 1 the strongest guy. I've seen some of the biggest, strongest, massive guys just get knocked out with speed.

Speaker 1 Um, it's kind of like a like a flash knockout, you know. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 1 because you got to make the most out of it. It's a free shot.
This guy's standing there. If he doesn't flinch, you get a free shot.

Speaker 1 Uh,

Speaker 1 So the speed is a big thing.

Speaker 1 This is the ones you see or the ones you don't see, you get knocked out from. If you're that fast, even if you watch it come,

Speaker 1 you won't see it. Wow.
You know, if you watch my early ones,

Speaker 1 I wasn't really trying to work on speed. I just wanted to, you know, knock them out.
Power. I didn't know that speed was a thing.
And then as I go got on with my career of slapping,

Speaker 1 I tried to dissect my technique so I can teach it to somebody. Well, I wrote a 10-week

Speaker 1 just

Speaker 1 seminar of just slapping.

Speaker 1 A 10-week program? From toe to freaking head, like every part of your body. And it goes into details.
And I've got a a few students already, but I quickly realized that's the secret sauce.

Speaker 1 Because it doesn't specifically do one technique. It's not even about a specific technique.
It's like

Speaker 1 stuff people overlooked

Speaker 1 when you're training. Yeah.
You know, that's the little things that count.

Speaker 1 And then I quickly realized that, oh no, if someone gets a hold of this, it's over. Like it may be like a rocky moment where he's,

Speaker 1 I gotta fight my Tony gun one day. Right.

Speaker 1 And it took two guys. And one of them is a girl and one of them is a guy.
The guy is getting a knockout on the first round every fight.

Speaker 1 And he's getting a bonus for it too. Oh, you get bonuses for knockouts? Oh, yeah, for sure.
The best knockouts of the night. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I wonder, because like, I feel like the person that goes first has a huge advantage. 100%.

Speaker 1 But,

Speaker 1 but,

Speaker 1 it's a... Mind fuck.
When you get the first one, it's a free shot. You don't knock them out.

Speaker 1 It's a mind fuck. Even for me, if I go first and I don't knock the dude out, you start getting in your head.

Speaker 1 Now I have to go and turn around, grab the slapstick, and

Speaker 1 damn. Like,

Speaker 1 how did I not knock him out? Because I have to slap him again after I take the slap.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 the mind is everything.

Speaker 1 You need a solid one. Yeah, yeah.
I remember the fight I went to last time in Vegas. the guy that went first won pretty much every time, I think.
Oh, yeah, it's you guys that just have amazing slap.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 you there's no defense for it, and it's all off a coin flip, too, right? Off of a coin flip, you know. What do you think of that system?

Speaker 1 I would keep it the way that it is, but

Speaker 1 but

Speaker 1 it's a big but

Speaker 1 I would make it more public.

Speaker 1 Like, obviously, there's officials that do it.

Speaker 1 The gaming people that are a part of it.

Speaker 1 I think they used to film it, but no one really watched it. Only the guys that gambled watch it.

Speaker 1 Just not, like, important to them, the media part of it.

Speaker 1 But I feel like, okay,

Speaker 1 hear me out.

Speaker 1 It's literally. Okay, literally, right before the fight.
Up on the stage, you get the official, the coin, right?

Speaker 1 And you can make betting ons on this too. Who wins the coin toss, right? Like, kind of like football, when they bring the two captains in there, boom, boom, boom, they should, I want to do this.

Speaker 1 You know, I want this to be a thing. You get a coin flip.
The winner goes first and also gets the pick out of two coaches which coach you want.

Speaker 1 That should be a thing.

Speaker 1 Because we get fixed coaches. Like I'm a coach on the red corner and the red corner only.

Speaker 1 But there's some guys that I've been training and I've been, you know, friends with and I've pulled into PowerSlap that are now in Madupa Corner. Damn.
On this event.

Speaker 1 Some of the Hawaiians, I don't even get to coach. Wow.
You know, I mean, obviously we're friends. We can just go to our hotel rooms and coach.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 that's unethical. You know, it's a professional sport.
That's an interesting dynamic because you're coaching against your friends. Against my friends.

Speaker 1 But,

Speaker 1 you know, me now being a coach, I'm like, man, how do I work around this?

Speaker 1 Without, like, being a cheater. Right.
You know? Separate the friendship

Speaker 1 and business. But it takes somebody like me that puts the the the word sport

Speaker 1 over everything.

Speaker 1 You can't get a sport if it's not fair.

Speaker 1 You know?

Speaker 1 When I started making my own promotion,

Speaker 1 the word sport was just engraved into my brain. I didn't tell I didn't let nobody tell me anything or that this wasn't a sport and blah, blah, blah.
Oh, yeah, Cornhole is a sport. And it's on ESPN.

Speaker 1 And people watch it.

Speaker 1 Why can't this be a sport? Someone told me that there was no money in it. Because I asked to get paid.
I did five slap fights and begin my slap fight career. Unpaid.
Wow. Zero dollars.

Speaker 1 And I was going viral for each one. Knockout, knockout, knockout, knockout, knockout.
Hey, guy, I need to get paid. I have a family of six kids.
I need to pay some bills.

Speaker 1 And I'm missing work for this.

Speaker 1 Oh, there's no money in it. You're not a professional.
I cannot pay you. That's what was said to me.

Speaker 1 And I know

Speaker 1 going viral pays.

Speaker 1 And I was going viral.

Speaker 1 I did everything in my power, dude. I reached out to so much, thousands of people.

Speaker 1 Hey, I have an idea.

Speaker 1 All we need is investors.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 that drove me.

Speaker 1 I used to tell my brother, my wife, hey, one day Dana's going to call me. He has to.
Wow. He's just, I have an idea, a million-dollar idea.

Speaker 1 It has to be Dana White.

Speaker 1 Nobody else can make this kind of sport blow up like that.

Speaker 1 And it was just something I told myself, Dana's going to call. Dana's going to call.
Sometimes I used to lie to people just to get the status, like, oh, yep, Dana called,

Speaker 1 you know? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then when he finally called, and I finally talked to him on the phone, I cried. I didn't even know what to say.
Wow.

Speaker 1 I called my mom. I was like crying.
I couldn't even tell my mom. It took me a while to even get the words to come out of my mouth.
My wife had to say, Dana called, Dana White called, mom. He's crying.

Speaker 1 And we're here now. That's crazy.
Yeah, it's crazy, right? What'd he say on the call? He was like,

Speaker 1 I remember him calling me Big Daddy. I was like, what's up, Big Daddy? I was like, no way.
This is

Speaker 1 AI or something. Like, there's no way this is Dana Way.

Speaker 1 He's like, yeah, baby,

Speaker 1 we want what you guys are, what you're putting down.

Speaker 1 Let's do something. Wow.

Speaker 1 So it was just me and our producers and Dana Wayne in the very beginning. We didn't even have the name PowerSlap.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I don't really tell people that unless I'm at

Speaker 1 a major podcast or anything. I don't walk around like, oh, I did this and that.

Speaker 1 I weren't getting paid in the beginning of my career. I had to fight for a paycheck.

Speaker 1 Now everyone's getting paid. You paved the way, but that's how all sports work if you look at it.
Like basketball players didn't make money at first.

Speaker 1 Dude, I did my research on to how football was started how golf was started how basketball started like a sport had to be started to be a sport had to have rules had to have regulations like i did all my research had to have medical

Speaker 1 like definitely need that in this one right officials like

Speaker 1 I'm just proud of the sport, bro. Yeah.
No, it's really legit, man. And you guys are pulling in crazy views on social media.
I think Dana said billions of views.

Speaker 1 It caps out.

Speaker 1 to find a sport right now that pulls in more numbers than Slap. Wow.

Speaker 1 But being there in person is different. Oh, it's so different.
Because

Speaker 1 I'm not going to lie, I was skeptical at first, like most people. Everyone is.
Yeah. But then I went in person.
You went in person. I'm hooked.
I saw someone get knocked out.

Speaker 1 I was like, holy crap, the room went silent. It was like, this is legit.
Right. Yeah.
And I want

Speaker 1 the next

Speaker 1 growing step is we

Speaker 1 we need celebrities, we need

Speaker 1 athletes from other combat sports to come in and get knocked out or dropped or anything or knocked to do it out.

Speaker 1 Welcome to PowerSlap. That's the name of the game.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's the next growing story. One day it might be in the Olympics.
Who knows? Dude,

Speaker 1 that's a big talk, too, with this sport.

Speaker 1 It's an Olympic sport. How can it not be? The audience would go nuts.
Dude, the audience would go nuts. It would be the most hyped Olympic sport of all time.
For sure.

Speaker 1 I would love it to be like while I'm still competing. Yeah.
That would be amazing. But

Speaker 1 we have a long way to go still. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Where do you see it going this year? Anything exciting? I want it, honestly,

Speaker 1 I'm biased for the Hawaiians. I want it to go and be in Hawaii.

Speaker 1 Because if

Speaker 1 USC tried, but

Speaker 1 the government in in Hawaii is just

Speaker 1 money. Oh, they want money.
Want money.

Speaker 1 That's backwards thinking because they would make money if you brought it there on the back end. Oh, no, that's just the initial handshake.
You want to come here? It costs.

Speaker 1 They know it's lucrative. They know they're going to make money off of it.
But it's the greed in politics.

Speaker 1 So it's corrupt in Hawaii. Oh.
It's the most corrupt place I know. Holy crap.
Yeah, for sure. Are they Democrats? They're not over there? Huh? Are they Democratic leaders? Oh, they're Democrats, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. That makes sense.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 there is a good amount of

Speaker 1 republics. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Not enough. Yeah, they probably have their areas.
They're a little bit woke there. Damn.
That's socks. It's all good.
I mean, I love my home. Man, my heart's there.
I grew up my whole life.

Speaker 1 My whole childhood spent in Hawaii.

Speaker 1 It's just sad

Speaker 1 yeah that's how people feel about california now too yeah you know for sure their hometown is just not what it used to be yeah people used to rep cali now i don't hear it so much no now it's like a shame to rep it

Speaker 1 you know

Speaker 1 unless you're from like you know the hood yeah yeah that's facts i love hawaiian food though dude dude what's your favorite hawaiian food where you go here matiki dude have you been there i just did a i just did a thing with

Speaker 1 with matiki bro you did their plates are massive that's why i love it bro Dude,

Speaker 1 the beef. Oh, yeah.
The beef ribs. Best beef ribs I've ever had.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's right.

Speaker 1 That's how we're so big. Yeah, I can tell.
Eat like that from a baby. But mac and cheese salad, too, is

Speaker 1 dangerous. Unbelievable.

Speaker 1 I think rice, white rice and mac salad is the base of Hawaiian food. Yeah.
And then you get, you know, the meats and all that stuff. But

Speaker 1 it was so tough, bro.

Speaker 1 Losing weight. Yeah, that.
Eating that every day? How are you going to lose weight? Yeah, it's tough. But the Hawaiians, Polynesians, we use our weight, our size to our advantage.
Like, like slapping.

Speaker 1 It really pays to be bigger. And when I was 420 pounds,

Speaker 1 it was different. I feel like I could take a slap.
better. Now that I'm 300 pounds,

Speaker 1 now I have to use more technique. Right.
You know? Because your defense got now. It's easier to knock you around.
Right. And that's proven in the last one with me and dumpling.

Speaker 1 How much did you weigh at that one? The first one I weighed 420. Jeez.
And I damaged him. He didn't damage me.
I actually took seven slaps total. He took five.
Because you flinched? I flinched twelve.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I flinched twice. Damn.

Speaker 1 And I've been doing it for a long time. And

Speaker 1 flinching is something it's hard to train for,

Speaker 1 both mentally, and physically. Right.

Speaker 1 Like, how do you train for that? You can't really fight against it because it's a natural response. Right, and I, and I, and I, I'm really against closing your eyes while you get hit.

Speaker 1 I'm getting hit by a

Speaker 1 hundred times. How calm?

Speaker 1 The

Speaker 1 anticipation has to be there.

Speaker 1 Knowing when you're going to get slapped. Because there is a defense.
They allow you to clinch.

Speaker 1 But, you know, it's very much officiated. You have a guy watching you, and he as soon as you get slapped, he's hitting replay as soon as you get slapped.

Speaker 1 Nothing else matters to that guy, the replay guy. Just to see if you clinched or

Speaker 1 Yep, 100%.

Speaker 1 Wow. Yeah, they got that on lock.
I don't think anyone's doing it better than PowerSlap.

Speaker 1 I think that's the

Speaker 1 real time if you messed up, right? It's different.

Speaker 1 You can't hit on the bone, too. A lot of people do that.
Right. You can't hit them.
There's so much, you know. When we do this fighter safety meeting, we did one yesterday,

Speaker 1 we go over so much details of

Speaker 1 what are they going to look for,

Speaker 1 what not to do.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 there's a lot that goes into it. Before, when I was doing it, none of that.

Speaker 1 It was just a free-for-all. Free-for-all.

Speaker 1 Who can hit somebody the hardest? You know? And

Speaker 1 I've created a lot of rules. I've brought so much rules to the table because

Speaker 1 someone told me, oh, yeah, it's not professional. It's not a professional sport.

Speaker 1 Well, let's make it a professional sport.

Speaker 1 You know, why not? Why are we going to continue to do the circus act? And

Speaker 1 skeptics will look at it as a spectacle. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't respect that either. So let's change the game.
Let's do it. That's cool.
I didn't let nobody tell me anything. Yeah, there's a lot of haters on social media.
Oh, I love them.

Speaker 1 I'm sure you love their day and your comments and your DMs. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I used to play into it. I used to be, I don't know, right back.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 it doesn't do anything, but waste your time. I mean, it would take all day to respond.
All day.

Speaker 1 It took all days at some points where I was just addicted to like defending the word sport in slap.

Speaker 1 And I wasted so much time.

Speaker 1 So much days. Now I just don't.
They want you to respond. They want.
They feed off of it. Yeah, that's why I don't.
Yes, I win. As soon as you respond, they win.
100%.

Speaker 1 That's what they wanted. You could even respond with facts and it wouldn't matter.
Oh, it wouldn't matter.

Speaker 1 Especially someone like you, if you just respond to anybody, bro. They'd be like, first of all, like,

Speaker 1 he responded. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But what about?

Speaker 1 And they already win. You're feeding into that.
So, yeah, I don't really feed into the

Speaker 1 details of what they say anymore. Everyone says almost the same thing pretty much yeah

Speaker 1 join join the crew well dude what's next for you i know you got the energy drink company what else you got going on

Speaker 1 let's talk about that oh so a lot of people are like oh what are you doing differently now what are you like

Speaker 1 my my wife actually wakes up and the first thing she does is crack a red bull

Speaker 1 that's what that's what she likes

Speaker 1 I'm not that guy. You know, I don't just wake up and need something to start my day.

Speaker 1 A glass of water.

Speaker 1 But I started waking up and drinking a Red Bull too, just because I saw how productive she was.

Speaker 1 And I thought,

Speaker 1 if everyone's doing this, a cup of coffee or whatever you do in the morning,

Speaker 1 let's try it. Let's do it.

Speaker 1 So when I got with the old school energy,

Speaker 1 I replaced my Red Bull with one of these. Yeah, that's probably healthier for you.
100%.

Speaker 1 And the taste is better.

Speaker 1 It's like, for me, it's like a cherry taste almost. But everyone else has kind of a different.
Yeah, because they don't reveal the flavor. There's no flavor

Speaker 1 on here. Yeah.
And it's like a little

Speaker 1 social media game where people try it and see what they say. Try to guess, right? A lot of people say cherry, which to me it is.
It's like a cherry flavor.

Speaker 1 A lot of people say,

Speaker 1 but

Speaker 1 they don't even know what they're drinking is an energy drink.

Speaker 1 I used to get dumpings like a lot from other energies, and I just don't. For this one, it's more clean.

Speaker 1 Focus, man. The focus.
I used to start projects

Speaker 1 and then start another project while I'm in the middle of doing that project and start another one. Just can't get focused.
Can't get anything done. finish.

Speaker 1 This one right here, it's almost like,

Speaker 1 do I want to get stuff done today?

Speaker 1 I know, drink old school energy, bro. I had like a tenth of that.
I hadn't had an energy drink in 10 years, and I was wired. I was so

Speaker 1 like, it was crazy. One of my buddies takes Adderall every day.
Give him a case of this. He's like,

Speaker 1 You want some Adderall? Nah, bro. I got old school energy.
That's awesome. What? Adderall replacement.
Dude, that's amazing. And he doesn't take his Adderall no more.
That's cool. Wow.
Right. And

Speaker 1 I mean, it's not a drug.

Speaker 1 So I can drink it.

Speaker 1 I just,

Speaker 1 I owe this drink, this little drink in a can. I owe it all my success nowadays compared to, you know, waking up and having to lug around with purpose of...
making something a sport.

Speaker 1 Now I got many new goals that I'm just crushing right now. It's awesome, man.
Crushing. Yeah, you guys are crushing it with that.
You guys keep selling out, right? Yeah, I keep selling out. I mean,

Speaker 1 dude, if you haven't had one yet, try it. If you love focusing on stuff and getting it done,

Speaker 1 that's outside of working on yourself physically.

Speaker 1 This thing does wonders. Yeah, I'm sure we'll start seeing it in stores soon, right? 7-Eleven's already, like...

Speaker 1 We're starting shipping to all the 7-Elevens. Nice.
So, one down, you know. that's a big one.
Yeah, that's a big one. Yeah, congrats.
Um,

Speaker 1 well, dude, uh, where can people find you? The crazy Hawaiian. If

Speaker 1 there's any other dog crazy Hawaiian DA,

Speaker 1 let me know.

Speaker 1 Take it now. We'll link your stuff below.
Yeah, for sure. Awesome, man.
Thanks for hopping on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, watch PowerSlap.

Speaker 1 Yep. Stay tuned for PowerSlap and the future of Slapping, guys.
See you next time.