The Evolution of Power Slapping: Inside the Sport | Da Crazy Hawaiian DSH #1269

He looked at me, I looked at him, I was like, I don't know what to do, but I'm pointing at you. I'm here for you.
You know, so it's, you're not mentally prepared for that. You may get lost in it.
And forget all your training. It happened to me.
And I watched some fights back. I'm like, damn, you got lost.
What the hell was I doing? Disappointed. All right, guys, we got the crazy Hawaiian here.
One of the best slappers of all time. Let's go.
Thank you. I appreciate that entrance right there.
No one introduced me as one of the best of all time. I think you're on the Mount Rushmore right now.
Oh, for sure. For sure.
That's a good question. If it was a question, but Mount Rushmore.
Top four. You've been at it for longer than most people too, right? I've been doing it before COVID.
Ron, Beta, Bada, Wolverine. Me and him started the same exact date.
Wow. Yeah.
It was just a dive bar in Branson, Missouri.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

I thought you were going to say the Russian league.

I went to the Russian, well, I dethroned one of their kings,

and then they all just kind of flew back home.

Really?

Yeah.

The guy that started off doing it in Russia,

he wanted to move down to America and try it out. He bought one of his champs, and they didn't know what there was here, untapped land for them or whatever.
But we were warriors. We've been starting it already.
And detone one of their kings, and then they went home. Then they came back.
We brought them back. Now they're fighting a power slap or no? Now we got the Dumpling, which is a superior champion, who dethroned me.
But I felt honored to lose to that guy, for sure. Yeah, you fought him twice, right? Yeah.
So it's got to be Wolverine, me. I mean, American Mount Rushmore, so.
Yeah. I don't know.
The other two is kind of a toss-up. It's such a new sport.
Yeah, it's new. We'll see.
Time will tell, I think. Time will tell, but we ain't going nowhere.
Yeah. If you haven't been there in person, you wouldn't know.
Dude, I watched your first fight in person with Dumpling.

Every time you slapped him, I thought he was going to get knocked out.

I don't know how he takes those hits.

It's crazy.

I mean, it is a tough dude.

Some guys just got it.

When you want, oh, man, I want to try this.

It's all about taking the hit.

Anyone can whack somebody and knock them out.

You know what I mean?

So you think defense is more important?

100%.

Defense wins championships. That's what they say with basketball.
Yeah, for sure. I believe in that.
I stand by that. If you've got a glass chin, this is probably not something that you want to do.
How much of that is genetic, the chin strength versus training? A lot. I would say 75% of it at because uh there's a lot of hawaiians coming in on on it you know and yeah and the bigger people wider people um and it's just a bigger basis of people like uh and you know what taller people are actually like through experience are becoming one of the harder people to beat.
Is that because the angle of the slap is higher? Yeah, and the taller you are, the better. Yeah, because they got to hit upwards.
Yeah, and then there's a point in the trajectory where you lose power so far up. You know, you won't be able to knock somebody out.
Wow, so someone seven foot should enter this and just sweep everyone. I got a secret weapon.
He's seven foot three. Oh my gosh.
Big white boy. That's nuts.
Yeah. How much does he weigh? Probably almost 500 pounds.
Holy shit. Are there divisions that even do that? Super heavyweight.

Oh, my God.

We don't get no cap.

There's no cap.

There's no weight limit.

That guy can't lose.

There's no way anyone can knock him out.

So he hasn't been touched like that before.

He's been doing football, and that's a big thing too,

being able to take a hit.

It's kind of like a football hit.

You leave with your head, And you'd be surprised, man. Some of these big guys, you know, you can be big and all that, but if you don't got a chin, it's just not possible.
And you probably know the exact point where to hit and the exact pressure by now. Right.
And then I do also when I hold seminars, I actually ask people, what do you think you need to hit? Just point to it. And a lot of people say back here and this and that.
And the question is, where do you think you need to place your hand? And it's just a, it's a science to it, to me. Hey guys, shout out to today's sponsor, Kinsta.
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Yeah, I've done it long enough to know. And some guys, they're just genetics are different.
So you got to hit them certain places. But it's literally right here.
Oh, down here. Where you need to place your hand, where you need to hit um because anywhere else you know um you can tell you can just tell when you when you actually do it when you're watching it you're like wow because you know people's hands are so big right and you don't know like they're hitting with their whole hand but But the base of it is, like, kind of the bottom part over here.

And you don't want to lead with that.

It's illegal to lead with your palm for sure.

So you can't go like this.

You cannot lead with your palm at all.

So when you make connection, then you slow-mo it.

You need to land like this.

But the base of your power, at the end point of your power,

is, like, right around here.

Right. Obviously.
You can't knock somebody out without using your palm makes all to it but the point of contact it has to be flush your hand to their face it's got to be seamless it's got to be seamless it's got to sound like a slap look like a slap and uh people man. They're like, oh, couldn't be that bad.
Couldn't be that hard. I see people that were doing MMA professionally and they rip.
They're just on point. You can tell that they're focused.
But there's a science to it. There's a technique.
Yeah. And people give us respect after the fact, after they compete.
There's a lot that goes into it because you only got three chances. So, like, if you mess up, that's one of your turns, right? Right.
Well, three chances. But if you flinch, you get hit again in one round.
Right. And a lot of people flinch the fight I went to.
I flinch. It's natural to flinch.
It's natural. I would strongly advise not to watch it come and find a spot on their body because when you watch it come, you anticipate it and the whole point of not flinching or the whole thing of not flinching is crazy to me.
You don't think that should be a thing? No, no. What I'm saying is when you flinch, try to teach someone not to flinch.
And it's a mind thing. You know you're going to hit.
You know you're going to get blasted in the face. It's a mind thing.
It's trying to get yourself to a cool place in your head so you know not to flinch. me i like flinch and i'm like i have to watch

back the replay i'm standing there i don't give a fuck how much time i have i'm watching i'm waiting

i'm looking like wow i did flinch okay i'll take another stop you know i wrote the rules oh you did

yes oh i didn't know uh so i did my own i started my own promotion with my partner in California. And it was called Chin Check Slapdown.
But before that, I was doing it for Slap Fight Championship. And I wasn't getting paid.
You were just doing it for fun? Well, the first one I did, I was like, man, I was really curious. I wanted to do it.
I did it for free, willingly. That's crazy.
I just wanted to try it out, you know, because before power slapping or any slapping, I worked here in Vegas. Oh, yeah? As a bouncer of many clubs.
My brother was pretty much my boss. And instead of, you know, punting somebody, slapping them on the streets is is a wake up like oh snap i just got slapped i better not mess with this guy you know because people you know they like to test and uh back back in the day slapping somebody was just more of a hello you don't want to get punched like that do you like a warning right and i just started accidentally knocking people out with slaps oh my god like knock them out glasses fly everywhere i'm like oh man i'm just grabbing glasses putting them back in his pocket at least be nice you know it was you used to be just a warning that's nuts and i was at knocking these guys out accidentally and my brother was like oh you should do this send me a video it's about slapping i was like hmm now fast forward uh i'm no one of the greatest that ever did it in america that's nuts man how many fights have you been in so far almost 20..
Holy crap. I'd say about 19.
What's your record? It is 19 total. So it is what? Two losses, right? Two losses and one draw.
What is that? 16, 1 and2. 16-1-1.

Or two losses, right?

Oh, 2-1.

Yeah.

Well, you lost to the same guy twice.

Yeah, 16.

Well, no.

The first one was a draw.

Oh, it was?

So it's 2-1.

Okay.

Because I did lose to another Russian guy that the Dumpling lost to as well.

Oh, really?

So there's a guy better than Dumpling? So yeah, it's a guy better than Dumpling lost to as well. Oh, really? So there's a guy better than Dumpling? So, yeah, it's a guy better than Dumpling.
And I challenged him before I challenged Dumpling. And I lost him.
He actually dropped me. Damn.
He didn't knock me out, but he dropped me. Is that the first time you've ever been dropped? Oh, first time I've ever been dropped, rocked, or anything.
Wow. Yeah.
But it was politics at that point. at that point.
You know, they came with their whole team and the whole official team. Like, no one spoke English.
No English was spoken in the bout. But before the match, they were telling me my strike was illegal.
Oh, really? Because I used to come, I used to come really down, you know, down at my hip and uh really not my hand was when i started my trajectory it started at my knee holy shit and people people do that now and that was like comfortable for me but now that i try to do it it's uncomfortable because i've learned a new technique since that time uh and now i just adapt to it oh so you technique? Yeah, 100% new technique. So you don't wind back as much? No, don't wind back as much.
It's the placement, it's accuracy and speed. But when I challenged this guy, his name is Zales, Z-A-L-E-S.
He beat the dumpling, so I was like, I'm going to beat the best best I called out the best in the world and my team we could get anybody in the world to come and stand in front of me and test this theory like I'm the best in the world and when we hired him he said Zala said I want my team to officiate this. Okay, but on my soil.
So we brought these guys from Russia, the whole squad, the officials, the refs, everybody, and I was literally the only American on that stage. Damn.
So I actually dropped him, but his guys that were the catchers held him up. You can see it on YouTube.
Held him up. There was one guy behind him like this.
The other two had his arm. Hemmed him up and stopped him from dropping on the ground.
Held him up for a good three seconds and then literally put him back on the table. So he was out he was he was out he dropped back boom you know then they caught him the very next slap he did the same thing to me no one caught me no one even helped me just stay there i dropped like this like my butt went back.
Yeah. And I sat down.

When I got dropped and I sat down, the official, which is another Russian,

was cheering and holding my shoulder down, telling me,

you lose, you lose, yeah, you lose.

And I'm trying to get back up.

Within eight seconds, I was back up on my own.

I mean, at the time, I was like 375. It's hard to pick up somebody that's that big.
So I got up on my own. Logan Paul was like, this guy's ready to go.
I looked at him. I was like, yes, I'm ready to go.
It's my turn. It's only been eight seconds since I've been dropped.
They called the fight? Called the fight. Wow.
Yeah. Is there a time limit, Like 10 seconds or something? It was 10.
So when you get dropped, it's a 10 count. Like boxing.
But between the rounds, you get about a minute. And at that specific one, they gave us more than a minute.
So when he won, they gave him his little toy belt. I walked off on the stage and I was just pissed off.
Damn, you got to run that back with fair judges. He was tested.
We were tested and he he failed. Yes.
Oh, so that doesn't even count then. That officially doesn't count.
I count it because I'm just that guy. Officially it doesn't count.
I count it. What was he on? Steroids? A bunch of steroids.
Jeez. And then now he's doing arm wrestling, and they don't test in arm wrestling.
Really? It would be very hard for him to piss negative for anything. Wow.
I watch those arm wrestling videos sometimes. Yeah, those guys are amazing, bro.
That one white guy with the glasses. Yeah, he doesn't even look like he...
Nah, he looks like a normal guy. And he busts out.
Boom! Oh, he beats everyone. Yeah, he beats everyone.
It's crazy. What do you think it is? Like, just the angle? I don't know.
He's not the strongest. He's not the strongest.
He's not the biggest either. Yeah, it must be technique.
You see the one he went to the beach and everyone was like, muscle beach, and he channels the biggest guy on the beach. Yeah.
And I'm like, yeah, no, there's no way he's going to be this guy. He was playing with the dude.
That's not it. It was crazy.
Yeah, that's crazy. I got to find that video.
I forget his name, but that dude's a legend. Legend.
I want to get him on the pod. There's a guy who almost looks like you, too.

He's a young kid.

And he has glasses and everything.

He purposely makes himself dressed like a dork.

So when he goes into this gym, people are like, what the heck?

That's funny.

And he's just boom.

Damn.

Fast, too.

Would you ever do arm wrestling? When I, like, work out or lift i don't like specifically work out my arms um more so like i love boxing so maybe when i start lifting again i haven't lifted weights since high school damn yeah how are you still slapping then without lifting well i i the art of boxing i really love. My IQ is something else.
That's actually my next career venture. Yes.
Okay. Boxing or bare knuckle or anything combat related.
That's why I'm dropping this weight. Because I was 420 pounds about five months ago.
Holy crap. I'm 300.
What? I lost 120 pounds in five months.

Dude, that's like what?

25 pounds a month?

Yeah.

And I walk around, naturally walk around at 225.

I'm a smaller bunch in my family.

All my brothers, like, I don't know if you know my younger brother,

the Hawaiian hitman.

He's more so built to be a super heavyweight.

So I was like, bet, if he gets a shot at the title and wins the title, I'm going to get a shot at the title eventually. Not the super heavyweight, but a heavyweight.
Yeah. And for boxing or any combat, you have to be in shape.
And me at 400 pounds, that's me grabbing a snack every you know half hour and doing nothing just watching shows and not working out so you want to box at 225 well i want to i want to be comfortable i want to be uh just fit you know yeah um i've always just been this big guy uh and i have opportunity the platform like like Power Slap, it's an amazing platform. It's a big one.
But we're only doing slapping right now. And when I train, I hate training.
I really just, I do. I'm a lazy guy.
But boxing, fighting, the art of it, just adrenaline you get when you know you got to defend yourself, fight, you know. I love that.
That's what gets me going like, oh, what? I get to hit something? Let's go. I love it.
Have you boxed before at all or no? Professionally, amateur, no. I just, the way I grew up in Hawaii, there was no guns.
Now there's guns. There's guns there's no there was no guns really when i grew up i i didn't have a fear like oh somebody gonna pull out a gun and

shoot me the only people that had guns was cops um so i grew up in a time where what you looking at

you know why you looking at me funny you can't even look at somebody without without like i remember walking past somebody looking at me funny? You can't even look at somebody without, like, I remember walking past somebody

looking at me funny,

and we didn't say one word,

we just started fighting.

You know?

Oh, my God.

No cops, nobody there to stop us.

And then after the fight,

when me and him, you know,

fucked each other up,

we shook hands.

Wow.

And now he's my best friend.

Holy crap.

Still to today.

He's not living in America, but we call each other all the time.

That's what I grew up doing, you know, fighting.

And the location of where I grew up at is it's a one-on-one,

and there's no ground.

You guys go to the ground. Someone's there to – everyone's – it's like an-on-one and there's no ground you guys go to the ground someone's there that everyone's it's like a unspoken rule of where i'm from everywhere else yeah the ground and pound is okay like jump on somebody pull their hair get take them to the ground or whatever the hell you gotta do just to win the fight where i grew up at we we uh we we had some of the best boxers in the world you know yeah um i mean max holloway is from where i'm from you know and i think after i graduate there's only a few more years about five more years of that like lifestyle of just fighting for the sake of your last name like oh yeah that's the pelens's the Pelens right there.
Oh, that's the Varenuses right there. Oh, that's the Ceteras right there.
You know, you don't mess with certain families. It's not like that no more, though, which is sad.
Guns started flooding in. Yeah.
I don't even know how it even happened. I don't know the backstory of why guns are so much now.
Like, the presence of it. And especially where I'm from.
Because where I'm from, you get guys that should be world champion in boxing, fighting, or any kind of combat sports, kickboxing. So maybe guns was, like, the cure i don't know you know but uh the that that part of it man it just makes me sad yeah you know yeah now when you get in a fight with someone you got to worry about if they got a gun or a knife oh yeah and and if they don't you know they got family standing right there yeah you know it's almost not even worth it.
It's not worth it at all. You want to fight? Go do it in the gym.
That's why I train my kids now to defend themselves. And I explain to them while I'm doing it.
This is why. And when I was taught growing up, my dad's a musician.
So I wasn't really taught to fight. You know, a bunch of my family was just musicians, farmers.
And when I decided, after I got beat up, I was like, man, I probably should learn how to fight. So what I would do, my family didn't have money, so we couldn't go to the gym or anything like that.
I would stand outside the gym and just watch people train and go home and do the same thing. And I would mirror it.
But when I finally got into the boxing gym, a boxing coach came up to me and asked me, are you right-handed or left? I said, right-handed. He said, well, you know what stands you're fighting in, right? I said, no, I don't know.
He said, you're doing a southpaw right now. Left-handed do this.
Some right-handers do it. So when I started learning on my own, I was a southpaw.
And then when I learned at a gym, he taught me the other way around. So I'm ambidextrous now with a lot of things.
Wow. So you can slap both hands? Yeah.
And the first time I've slapped somebody with my left hand was on the streets. And I knocked them out.
And it wasn't even like a full-blown technique. It was just like, you know.
Like a half slap? Yeah, it was like half slap. I was just trying to shut them up.
Stop fucking talking shit. I'm going to slap you right now.
And I did it. But professionally, left-handed slaps.
I haven't gotten a real knockout yet professionally on my left hand. But I know it's there, you know.
So when my right hand retires from slapping, I have my left. I wonder if you could be strategic with it during the fight.
I did. Yeah, I did both at one point.
But it just threw me off, you know, because I don't know. I don't know when to do it.
Can't get in rhythm, too, I guess. And I don't want to put in my head, oh, I'm going to do this on this round.
Because when you're up there, like, it's different.

You got to take it round by round, right?

Yeah, you have to adapt on the fly, you know.

And I see some guys out there not being able to do that.

You see them.

You see the loss in their eyes.

They're just playing to the crowd.

Like when you do it and there's no crowd, it's different from when you do it and there's a crowd. Yeah, they start folding under pressure.
I like that Butcher guy, Bordeaux, I think. Yeah.
He looks at his opponent in the eyes. Right.
I mean, that's intimidating. Yeah, that's intimidating, bro.
Some guys close their eyes. A lot of mental games going on.
It's 100% mental game. You can tell when you're walking around in the back.
This event, I'm a coach, so I can really tell. When I'm competing, I don't really pay attention to everyone else.
But you can tell who's mentally lost already. Really? You can tell, 100%.
Sometimes you can't tell. They're just hyping themselves up.
But they're using that energy they need on the stage too early in the back. And it's just like if you're mentally not prepared for it, you can possibly get just adrenaline dumped before you even do it.
Damn. And lose all your energy and power.
So you got to be you got to be conservative some guys can do it great you can physically get over that adrenaline dump like for me i can't the crazy hawaiian gets woken up as soon as i start walking up to the stage but the backstage i'm dormant i'm chilling like i can't turn myself on. I know this already until I start walking out.
So you feed off the energy of the crowd? Yeah, feed off the energy of the crowd. I think I'm a specialist with that, with, like, crowd work.
I coach that, too. I don't just coach technique with power and speed and all that, blah, blah, blah.
I teach them how to make the most out of that, what, 15 minutes of fame? Make the most out of it. Look in the crowd.
Make a connection with the people you find. Look to see who you can find, you know, famous or not.
Like, I was up there, I saw Tiovan. He looked at me, I looked at him,, I was like, I don't know what to do but I'm pointing at you.
I'm here for you. You know, so, it's, you're not mentally prepared for that.
You may get lost in it and forget all your training and it happened to me and I watched some fights back and I'm like, damn. You got lost? What the hell was I doing? Damn.
Disappointed. Yeah, you can make an impression for sure.
You got Andrew Tate coming tonight. You know, you can knock him out.
I wish I was competing for him, but it's all good. It's all good.
He'll be at future ones, I'd imagine. Oh, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, but imagine knocking someone out and then running up to him, getting a photo. That's legendary.
It's legendary. Where's he flying in from? Miami.
He already flew in. What, he lives in Miami? He just moved to Miami, yeah.
Smart move. Yeah, he was in Romania, but they were treating him terribly.
Like shit. Yeah.
What did he get arrested for? Child trafficking or sex trafficking or something like that. Which was false, right? Yeah, I think they beat that one in Romania.
Yeah. But now Florida's going after him.
Not even. They opened up an investigation.
What the hell are they looking for? Who knows, man?

We'll find out.

Yeah.

Yeah, shout out to Tate, man.

Shout out to Tate.

For the speed of the slap, are you just trying to go as fast as possible, basically?

Speed is everything, brother.

You can be the strongest guy. I've seen some of the biggest, strongest, massive guys just get knocked out with speed.

It's kind of like a flash a flash knockout you know yeah um because you gotta make the most out of it it's a free shot this guy's standing there if he doesn't flinch you get a free shot uh so the speed is a big thing um this is the ones you see or the ones you don't see, you get knocked out from. You're that fast.
Even if you watch it come, you won't see it. Wow.
You know, if you watch my early ones, I wasn't really trying to work on speed. I just wanted to, you know, knock them out.
Power. I didn't know that speed was a thing.
And then as I got on with my career of slapping, I tried to dissect my technique so I could teach it to somebody. Well, I wrote a 10-week just seminar of just slapping.
A 10- from toe to freaking head like every part of your body and it goes into details and i've got a few students already but i quickly realized that's the secret sauce because it doesn't specifically do one technique it's not even about a specific technique. It's like stuff people overlooked when you're training.
That's the little things that count. And then I quickly realized that, oh, no, if someone gets a hold of this, it's over.
It may be like a Rocky moment where he's, I got to fight my fight my tony gun one day right and it took two guys and one of them is a girl and one of them is a guy the guy is getting a knockout on the first round every fight and he's getting a bonus for it too oh you get bonuses for oh yeah for sure the best knockouts of the night yeah i i wonder because like i feel like the person that goes first has a huge advantage 100 but but it's a mind fuck when you get the first one it's a free shot you don't knock them out it's a mind fuck even for me if i go first and i don't knock the dude out you start getting in your head now i have to go and turn around grab the slapstick and damn like how did i not knock him out because i have to slap him again after i take the slap so the mind is everything you need a you need a solid one yeah yeah i remember the fight i went to last time in vegas the guy that went first won pretty much every time i think oh yeah it's you guys that just have amazing slap yeah you there's no defense for it it's all off a coin flip too right off of a coin flip you know what do you think of that system i would keep it the way it is but but it's a big but um i would make it more public like obviously there's officials that do it um the gaming people that are a part of it. I think they used to film it, but no one really watched it.
Only the guys that gambled watched it. Just not like important to the media part of it.
But I feel like, okay, hear me out. It's literally, okay, literally right before the fight.
Up on the stage, you get the official, the coin, right? And you can make betting odds on this too. Who wins the coin toss, right? Kind of like football.
When they bring the two captains in there, boom, boom, boom. They should, I want to do this.
You know, I want this to be a thing. You get a coin flip.
The winner goes first and also gets to pick out of two coaches which coach you want. That should be a thing because we get fixed coaches.
I'm a coach on the red corner and the red corner only. But there's some guys that I've been training and I've been friends, and I've pulled into Power Slap that are now in the Blue Corner.
Damn. On this event.
Some of the Hawaiians, I don't even get to coach. Wow.
You know, I mean, obviously we're friends. We can just go to our hotel rooms and coach.
But that's unethical. It's a professional sport.

That's an interesting dynamic because you're coaching against your friends.

Against my friends.

But me now being a coach, I'm like, man, how do I work around this without being a cheater? Right.

You want to separate the friendship from business.

But it takes somebody like me that puts the word sport over everything. You can't get a sport if it's not fair.
When I started making my own promotion, the word sport was just engraved into my brain. I didn't let nobody tell me anything.
Oh, this was in the sport and blah, blah, blah. Oh, yeah? Cornhole is a sport.
And it's on ESPN. And people watch it.
Why can't this be a sport? Someone told me that there was no money in it. Because I asked to get paid.
I did five slap fights in the beginning of my slap fight career. Unpaid.
Zero dollars. And I was going viral for each one.
Knockout, knockout, knockout, knockout, knockout. Hey guy, I need to get paid.
I have a family of six kids. I need to pay some bills and I'm missing work for this.
Oh, there's no money in it. You're not a professional.
I cannot pay you. That's what was said to me.
And I know going viral pays. And I was going viral.
I did everything in my power, dude. I reached out to so much people, thousands of people.
Hey, I have an idea. All we need is investors.
And that drove me.

I used to tell my brother, my wife,

hey, one day Dana's going to call me.

He has to.

Wow.

He's just, I have an idea, a million dollar idea.

It has to be Dana White.

Nobody else can make this kind of sport blow up like that.

And it was just something that I told myself.

Dana's going to call.

Dana's going to call.

Sometimes he gets a lot of people just to get the status.

Like, oh, Dana called.

You know?

Yeah.

And then when he finally called, and I finally talked to him on the phone,

I cried.

I didn't even know what to say.

Wow.

I called my mom. I was, like, crying.
I couldn't even tell my mom. It took me a while.
You get the words come out of my mouth. My wife had to say, they didn't call.
They didn't white called mom. He's crying.
And we're here now. That's crazy.
Yeah, it's crazy, right? What'd he say on the call? He was like, I remember him calling me big daddy i was like what's up big daddy i was like no way this is ai or something like there's no way this is in the way uh he's like yeah baby like we want we want what you what you guys are what you what you put it down let's do let's. Wow.
So it was just me and our producers and they don't want it. In the very beginning, we didn't even have the name Power Slap.
So I don't really tell people that unless I'm at a major podcast or anything. I don't walk around like, oh, I did this and that.
I weren't getting paid in the beginning of my career. I had to fight for a paycheck.
Now everyone's getting paid. You paved the way, but that's how all sports work.
If you look at it, like basketball players didn't make money at first. Dude, I did my research on how football was started, how golf was started, how basketball started.
Like a sport had to be started to be a sport. Had to have rules, had to have regulations.
I did all my research. Had to have medical.
Definitely need that in this one. Right.
Officials. I'm just proud of the sport, bro.
Yeah. No, it's really legit, man.
And you guys are pulling in crazy views on social media. I think Dana said billions of views.
It caps out. It's hard to find a sport right now that pulls in more numbers than slap.
Wow. But being there in person is different.
Oh, it's so different. Because I'm not going to lie.
I was skeptical at first, like most people. Everyone is.
Yeah. But then I went in person.

You went in person.

I'm hooked.

I saw someone get knocked out.

I was like, holy crap.

The room went silent.

It was like, this is legit.

Right.

Yeah. And the next growing step is we need celebrities.

We need athletes from other combat sports to come in and get knocked out or dropped or anything. Or knocked to do it out.
Welcome to Power Slap. That's the name of the game.
That's the next running snap. It might be in the Olympics.
Who knows? Dude. That's a big talk, too, with this sport.
It's an Olympic sport. How can it not be? The audience would go nuts.
Dude, the audience would go nuts. It would be the most hyped Olympic sport of all time for sure.
I would love it to be like while I'm still competing. Yeah.
That would be amazing. But we have a long way to go still.
Yeah. Yeah.
Where do where do you see going this year anything exciting i want honestly my bias for the hawaiians you know i wanted to go and be in a way because if usc tried but you know the government in hawaii is just they won't allow it money oh they want money want. That's backwards thinking because they would make money if you brought it there on the back end.
Oh, no, that's just the initial handshake. You want to come here? It costs.
They know it's lucrative. They know they're going to make money off of it.
But it's the greed in politics right now. So it's corrupt in Hawaii? Oh, it's the most corrupt place I know.

Holy crap.

Yeah, for sure.

Are they Democrat over there?

Huh?

Are they Democratic leaders?

Oh, they're Democrats, yeah.

Oh, yeah?

That makes sense.

I mean, there is a good amount of...

a good amount of republics.

Yeah.

Not enough.

Yeah, they probably have their areas. They're a little bit woke there.
Damn sad it's all good i mean i love my home man my heart's there i grew up my whole life my whole childhood spent in hawaii um it's just sad yeah that's how people feel about california now too yeah you know for sure their hometown is just not what it used to be. Yeah.
People used to rep Cali. Now I don't hear it so much.
Now it's like a shame to rep it. Yeah.
Unless you're from the hood. Yeah.
That's facts. I love Hawaiian food, though, dude.
Dude, what's your favorite Hawaiian food? Where do you go here? Matiki. Dude.
You been there? I just did a thing with Matiki. Oh, you did? Their plates are massive.
That's why I love it, bro. Dude, and then the beef.
Best beef ribs I've ever had. Yeah.
That's right. That's how we're so big.
Yeah, I can tell. Eat like that from a baby.
The mac and cheese salad too is dangerous. Unbelievable.
I think rice, white rice and mac salad is the base of Hawaiian food. Yeah.
And then you get, you know, the meats and all that stuff. But it was so tough, bro.
Losing weight. Yeah, eating that every day.
How are you going to lose weight lose weight yeah it's tough but no hawaiians polynesians we use our weight our size to an advantage like like slapping it really pays to be bigger and when i was 420 pounds it was different i feel like i could take a slap better now that that I'm 300 pounds, now I have to use more technique. Right.
You know? Because your defense got, now it's easier to knock you around, right? Right. And that's proven.
And the last one with me and Dumpling. How much did you weigh at that one? The first one I weighed 420.
Jeez. And I damaged him.
He didn't damage me. I actually took seven slaps total.
He took five. Because you flinched? I flinched twice.
Damn. And I've been doing that for a long time.
Flinching is something it's hard to train for, both mentally and physically. Right.
How do you train for that? You can't really fight against it because it's a natural response.

Right, and I'm

really against

closing your eyes

while you get hit.

You're against that.

How come?

The anticipation

has to be there.

Knowing when you're

going to get slapped.

Because there is

a defense.

They allow you

to clinch.

But, you know, it's very much officiated. You're the guy watching you, and as soon as you get slapped, he's hitting replay as soon as you get slapped.
Nothing else matters to that guy, the replay guy. Just to see if you clinched or? Yep, 100%.
Wow. Yeah, they got that on lock.
I don't think anyone's doing it better than power slap. I think that's the.
Yeah. Cause it's hard to see in real time if you messed up right.
It's different. And then you can't hit on the bone too.
A lot of people do that. Right.
You can't hit them. There's so much, you know, um, when we do this fighter safety meeting we did yesterday uh we go over so so much details of what are they going to look for, what not to do.
And there's a lot that goes into it. Before, when I was doing it, none of that happened.
It was just a free-for-all. Free-for-all.
Who can hit somebody the hardest? You know?

And I've created a lot of rules.

I've brought so much rules to the table because someone told me,

oh, yeah, it's not professional.

It's not a professional sport.

Well, let's make it a professional sport.

You know?

Why not?

Why are we going to continue to do the circus act then skeptics will look at it as a spectacle yeah so I don't respect that either so let's change the game let's do it that's cool I didn't let nobody tell me anything yeah there's a lot of haters on social media oh I love them I'm sure you get loved you get them on your day and your comments and your DMs. Yeah.
I used to play into it.

Right back.

And it doesn't

do anything but waste your time. I mean,

it would take all day to respond. All day.

It took all days

at some points where I was just addicted to

like defending

the word sport in slap.

And I wasted so much time. So much days.
Now I just don't. They want you to respond.
They want. They feed off of it.
Yeah. That's why I don't respond.
Yes, I win. As soon as you respond, they win.
100%. That's what they wanted.
You could even respond with facts and it wouldn't matter. Oh, it wouldn't matter.
Especially someone like you, if you used to respond to anybody, bro, they'd be like, first of all, he responded. Yeah.
But what about? And they already went. You're feeding into that.
So, yeah, I don't really feed into the details of what they say anymore. Everyone says almost the same thing.
Pretty much. Yeah.
Join the crew. Well, dude, what's next for you? i know you got the energy drink company what else you got going on let's talk about that oh so a lot of people are like oh what are you doing differently now what are you like my my wife actually wakes up and the first thing she does is crack a red bull that's that's what she likes i'm not that guy you know i don't just wake up and need something to start my day um a glass of water but i started waking up and drinking a red bull too just because i saw how productive she was and i thought if everyone's doing this a cup of coffee or whatever you do in the morning, let's try it.
Let's do it. So when I got with old school energy, I replaced my Red Bull with one of these.
Yeah, that's probably healthier for you. I want 100 percent.
And the taste is better. It's like for me, it's like a cherry taste almost, but everyone else has kind of a different.
Yeah, because they don't reveal the flavor. There's no flavor profile on here.
Yeah, and it's like a little social media game. We let people try it and see what they say.
Try to guess, right? A lot of people say cherry, which to me it is. It's like a cherry flavor.
Lots of people say, but they don't even know what they're drinking. It's an energy drink.
I used to get dumpings a lot from other energies, and I just don't. With this one, it's more clean.
Focus, man. The focus.
I used to start projects and then start another project while i'm in the middle of doing that project and start another one just can't get focused can't get anything done finish this one right here i'm it's almost like do do i want to get stuff done today and i drink an old school energy bro i had like a tenth of that i haven't had an energy drink in 10 years and i was wired i was so oh yeah dude it was crazy one of my buddies like takes adderall every day give him a case of this he's like you want some adderall that's not bro i got old school energy that's like what adderall replacement dude that Dude, that's amazing. And he doesn't take his Adderall no more.
That's cool. Right.
And I mean, it's not a drug. So I can drink it.
I just, I owe this drink, this little drink in a can. I owe it all my success nowadays compared to, you know, waking up and having to lug around with purpose of making something a sport.
Now I've got many new goals that I'm just crushing right now. That's awesome, man.
Crushing. Yeah, you guys are crushing it with that.
You guys keep selling out, right? Yeah, keep selling out. I mean, dude, if you haven't had one yet, try it.
If you love focusing on stuff and getting it done, that's outside of working on yourself physically. This thing does wonders.
Yeah, I'm sure we'll start seeing it in stores soon, right? 7-Eleven's already like like we're starting shipping to all the 7-Eleven. Nice.

So one down, you know.

That's a big one. Yeah, that's a big one.

Yeah, congrats.

Well, dude, where can people find you?

The Crazy Hawaiian.

If there's any other

duh, Crazy Hawaiian, D-A,

let me know.

We'll take a nap. We'll link your stuff below yeah for sure

awesome man thanks for hopping on and john kelly yeah watch power slap brother

yep stay tuned for power slap and the future of slapping guys see you next time