Trump moves nuclear submarines after Russian ex-president's comments

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I'm Nick Miles, and in the early hours of Saturday, the 2nd of August, these are our main stories.

President Trump has told the US military to reposition two nuclear submarines in response to what he called foolish and inflammatory comments by Russia's former leader, Dmitry Medvedev.

Mr.

Mr.

Trump has ordered the sacking of the head of the U.S.

Bureau of Labor Statistics after it published disappointing job figures.

Reports from northern Burkina Faso say attacks by jihadists have left dozens of people dead, including soldiers and civilians.

Also in this podcast.

From a biological perspective, there's no limit.

So once the embryos are frozen, all cellular activity stops.

So they're stored in a sort of a suspended animation state.

We hear about what some are calling the world's oldest baby from an embryo that was frozen 30 years ago.

We begin in the United States.

President Trump has responded to strident comments by the former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev by saying that he will reposition two US nuclear submarines in what he called appropriate regions.

But Mr.

Trump did not say if he was referring to nuclear-powered or nuclear-armed submarines or what regions he was talking about.

We just have to be careful.

And a threat was made, and we didn't think it was appropriate, so I have to be very careful.

So I do that on the basis of safety for our people.

A threat was made by a former president of Russia, and we're going to protect our people.

The threat President Trump was referring to came in the form of those comments from Dmitry Medvedev, who said Mr.

Trump was playing the ultimatum game with Russia by insisting on a ceasefire in Ukraine by August the 8th.

He said that such an approach could lead to a war involving the United States and Russia.

Arondoi Mukherjee is our correspondent in Washington.

President Trump importantly didn't say where he was moving these submarines to and whether they were nuclear-powered or nuclear-armed.

It's an important distinction because repositioning these doesn't really matter because they can still hit targets from thousands of miles away.

Now, he said this was in response to what he called foolish and inflammatory statements made by Dmitry Medvedev, with whom he had recently been involved in that, you know, in a series of personal attacks on social media.

But this has been viewed as a major escalation in rhetoric between Moscow and the U.S., something that we've not seen so far.

Dmitry Medvedev is the deputy chairman of Russia's Security Council and perceived to be close to President Vladimir Putin, but he's always been a Western critic.

So it's interesting that he's making these statements.

But a day earlier, Secretary of State Marko Rubio, in an interview to Fox, played down threats from from Dmitry Medvedev, saying he wasn't a decision-maker or even an important player.

Well, this all comes just a few days before Steve Witkoff, the US envoy, who's also involved in the situation in Gaza, of course, is due to travel to Moscow.

Remind us what his remit is going to be in Moscow.

What do we expect from that?

Well, the timing is very important, given that his visit will come as the deadline Donald Trump imposed is looming large.

So the remit would be, as before, to try and convince the Kremlin to try and agree to a ceasefire, something that Donald Trump has been really really pushing hard for.

But given all of what we've seen so far, that is looking difficult.

Moscow has shown no indication of complying with any of the threats that the Trump administration has issued so far.

But those threats could be ramped up.

Donald Trump has talked about secondary sanctions, which could hurt Moscow.

Is that, as far as what we're seeing from Washington, likely now?

Well, President Trump has been very clear about this.

In fact, clearer than before.

He said if a ceasefire is not arrived at, then he will be imposing severe tariffs on Russia.

This would be a first for him since assuming office for his second term.

He's also expressed skepticism about how much of an impact it may have, but also still said that he will be going ahead to impose those sanctions.

He has also threatened sanctioning countries which have been buying from Russia, like oil, examples being countries like China and India.

Aronadoi Mukherjee in Washington.

For an insight into how governments deploy nuclear submarines around the world, Celia Hatton spoke to James Acton, co-director of the Nuclear Policy Programme at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Washington.

So what is his initial reaction to President Trump's announcement?

It's not serious.

It's a bit sad, to be honest.

You know, I just think

it's sad that the President of the United States gets into a Twitter spat with a foreign leader and then has a bit of a tantrum online and throws around words involving nuclear weapons.

I don't regard this as being serious.

I regard this as being kind of faintly ridiculous, to be honest.

And why so?

I mean, any mention of the deployment of nuclear submarines is sure to attract attention.

Oh, of course it is.

And that, I think, is the whole point to try to attract attention.

There's no question about that.

Look, I'm somebody that worries quite a lot about nuclear weapons, so it's quite unusual for me to be on the radio saying that I'm not concerned about something.

But, you know, the United States has four or five submarines armed with hundreds of nuclear warheads at sea on a day-to-day basis.

We have no idea whether Trump's tweet has actually led to any kind of concrete change in the U.S.

nuclear force posture.

But the U.S.

and Russia are not at loggerheads right now.

They're not about to go to nuclear war with one another.

You know, I don't think we should invest Trump's tweet with that level of seriousness.

I think we should recognize it for what it is, which is, to be honest, as I've said, a bit sad and ridiculous, to be frank.

And Mr.

Medvedev is a hawk, isn't he?

He says a lot on social media.

He does.

He does.

And, you know, I think he's baiting President Trump.

President Trump has fallen for the bait.

He's allowed himself to be goaded in this way.

I think it's a very bad sign of the state of the world right now that we have leaders engaging with one another on social media this way.

You know, I think as an exemplar of that broad trend, I find this pretty depressing.

But I don't think this signals that nuclear war is imminent or anything remotely like that.

And what does this tell us about the US-Russia relationship at the moment?

Well, look, I think you have to look at the U.S.-Russia relationship holistically.

You know, Trump has always had a very soft spot for Putin.

I've seen nothing in his behavior over the last six months that suggests that that soft spot has gone away, even if in some ways Trump has begun to talk more harshly about Putin.

You know, the bilateral relationship clearly isn't good, largely as, you know, in no small part because of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

But neither do I think the two sides are about to go to war with one another.

James Acton from the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Washington.

On the campaign trail, Donald Trump regularly touted poll numbers when they were good for him and denounced ones that were bad as faulty or fake.

Now back in the White House, the U.S.

President appears to be applying that same attitude to government-managed economic data.

A report released today shows jobs growth in the U.S.

in May, June, and July slowed more sharply than previously understood, a worrying sign for the economy.

Not long after the announcement, President Trump ordered the sacking of the head of the US Bureau of Labour Statistics.

Michelle Fleury is the BBC's New York business correspondent.

Look, we got a weaker-than-expected jobs report, and that has raised fresh questions about the strength of the US economy.

It's not clear if the two are directly linked, but obviously the fact that you've got the President talking on social media about how strong the US economy is doing and then going on to fire the person that compiled the data, obviously, it's hard not to draw a link.

He also started to talk about the idea that this person who was appointed by Biden may have manipulated data in the past to try and help Kamala Harris in her presidential bid in 2025.

That is unproven, but that didn't stop that from sort of circulating.

And so here we find ourselves now with the head of the agency that compiles the data on jobs

being let go without any apparent sort of specific cause or at least as Democrat Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said, what does a bad leader do when they get bad news?

Shoot the messenger.

What about reaction on the market to this?

How have they taken it?

Well, it came late in the trading session and there was already a pretty tough day, in part because of that weak jobs report, but also you had the new tariff rates that were unveiled by the President.

And so it it sort of led to the kind of sell-off continuing.

I think it'll take some time as investors try to kind of digest what has happened.

But the immediate reaction, the anecdotal reaction was one of shock and surprise, in part because statistical data,

investors rely on it to make business decisions.

So if it starts to get politicised, what will that do in the long run, both for their decision-making process and for the sort of quality of the data?

The fear being that if your boss is not going to be happy going forward with the reports you produce, will they try and skew the results?

Michelle Fleury.

As we record this podcast, there are emerging reports from the north of Burkina Faso of two attacks that have left dozens of people dead, including soldiers, jihadist fighters and civilians.

Since 2015, Burkina Faso has faced numerous attacks by armed jihadist groups.

Will Will Ross reports.

Security sources say there was a large-scale attack on an army base in Dargo in Burkina Faso's north-central region.

Several dozen soldiers and Islamist militants died during Monday's battle.

On the same day, a supply convoy under a military escort was ambushed between the towns of Dori and Gorum Gorum.

Soldiers were killed, and a transport official said 20 lorry drivers died in the attack.

The insecurity is getting worse in Burkina Faso, and the al-Qaeda-linked group JNIM is behind much of the the violence.

Will Ross.

With the ever-changing front lines in the Ukraine conflict, there is a constant danger for troops on the ground getting caught behind enemy lines.

What a stranded and injured Ukrainian soldier has found a remarkable way to escape delivered from the sky.

Our correspondent Joe Inward reports.

Filmed through a drone's camera, a man in a field holds up his arms as an e-bike is slowly lowered to the ground.

It is a Ukrainian soldier, injured injured alone, and surrounded by Russian forces in the Donbass.

The footage, which was released by Ukraine's Rubij Brigade, shows what they say is surely one of the most extraordinary rescue operations of the war in Ukraine.

The soldier, call signed Tanker, described the moment it was lowered down.

The ropes were tangled in the wheels a bit, he said.

I could not start riding at first, it didn't work.

But eventually, with God's help, I managed and went on.

But his ordeal was not over.

After riding about halfway to safety, he hit a landmine, destroying the bike.

He limped the last few hundred meters, eventually being met by a rescue party.

The war in Ukraine has seen remarkable innovations in the use of drone technology.

They have transformed the battlefield, but they are usually used to take lives, not to save them.

Joe Inward.

Now to what's being called the world's oldest baby.

Thaddeus Daniel Pierce was born last week in in the US state of Ohio from a donated embryo that was originally frozen and stored back in 1994.

It sets a new record and means that at the time his embryo was first stored, his now non-biological parents, Tim and Lidsy Pierce, would have been toddlers themselves.

Tim Child is a professor of reproductive health at Oxford University here in the UK.

I asked him how it all works.

When people go through an IVF cycle, the woman having treatment will have a couple of weeks of injections to stimulate the ovaries.

It's followed by an egg collection.

The eggs are then mixed with sperm in the lab to make embryos and these embryos are then cultured on for a few days and then normally a fresh embryo would be transferred to her uterus.

But often there are spare embryos left over which can be frozen or cryo-preserved for later use.

And they're stored in liquid nitrogen tanks.

And then at some point when the usually the couple who made the embryos want to use them, the embryos are then taken out one by one and are thawed and then placed into her uterus.

So this happens and it could go on as it has in this case for decades.

Is there a limit on the number of years that embryos can be stored and why is there a limit?

From a biological perspective there's no limit.

So once the embryos are frozen, all cellular activity stops.

So they're stored in a sort of a suspended animation state.

And it's really the risks in terms of these embryos is more about at the time of freezing and at the time of thawing is when sometimes they might not survive, but the actual bit in between potentially could go on forever.

And this world oldest baby, Thaddeus Daniel Pearce, that wonderful name, he's set a record as a newborn for the longest time an embryo has been in this state of freezing before it was thawed out.

Will he and other babies who have been born in that way be monitored in a different way for the potential long-term effects on the body?

Reassuringly, there have been studies looking at whether there are any ill effects to children who may now be adults who are born from, whether it's fresh IVF embryos or frozen IVF embryos.

And people have also looked to see for longer duration of freezing, is that linked to a detrimental effect?

And reassuringly, it doesn't appear to, but obviously there is a limit on how many years these embryos have been frozen.

But in terms of long-term follow-up of children born from IVF, fresh or frozen embryos, that really depends on the country.

So, in different countries, there will be different types of long-term studies.

I wouldn't say routinely that all people born from fertility treatments are routinely followed up, you know, more so during their life than other people.

Now, there's a psychological impact of this potentially as well.

If you're adopted, for example, you can track your biological parents when you reach the age of 18 in most countries.

But that doesn't necessarily follow if, let's say, you come from an embryo that's been stored for decades and decades.

Your biological parents may well be dead before you are born.

The potential psychological impact of that could be worrying, damaging.

Well, that varies from country to country.

So in the UK, the law is very clear that anyone who is born from donated egg sperm or embryos can trace the genetic parents when the child is 18 years old.

Now, in other countries, it is not necessarily in place.

So, for instance, if we have patients who are perhaps looking to go abroad to receive donor egg sperm or embryos one of the things we say to them is they need to be clear about the different regulatory environment that will exist in some countries and perhaps children that they have will not be able to trace who donated the egg sperm or embryos tim child from oxford university

still to come south africa is home to the world's largest rhino population and according to conservation groups more than 400 are poached every year now a campaign is taking place in the country to save the rhinos from poachers by making the animals' horns radioactive.

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Next to Gaza.

And President Trump says he wants to help the people of the territory to live following a visit by his special envoy Steve Witkoff to a controversial U.S.

and Israeli-backed aid site.

Mr.

Trump said he would announce a new humanitarian plan to improve food supplies in Gaza after getting feedback from his envoy.

Gazans have denounced Steve Witkoff's visit.

One Palestinian told our Gaza correspondent that it was a hollow media stunt, not a humanitarian mission.

The UN has described the aid system run by the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation as a death trap.

It says around 1,400 Palestinians have been killed seeking food since late May, with the majority shot dead by Israeli forces near GHF distribution facilities.

Israel accuses Hamas of instigating chaos near the sites.

We'll examine some of those arguments in a moment.

But first, this report from John Donison in Jerusalem.

Donald Trump's man in the Middle East rolled into Gaza under Israeli escort to see for himself what the president has called real starvation.

Steve Witkoff visited the much-criticized GHF aid distribution sites, but it's not clear how many Palestinians he spoke to.

Out looking for food, Mohammed Diyab had these words for the American envoy:

I send a message to US officials and to Witkov.

End these things completely.

Stop the war entirely.

We don't want aid here.

We come and get humiliated and shot at.

We are humiliated just for a loaf of bread.

Amid the chaos to get their hands on aid, the UN says over 1,300 Gazans have been killed in the last two months, more than 850 of them allegedly shot by the Israeli military at the US-run GHF sites.

A boy was reportedly killed by an Israeli sniper at the Shakush site in southern Gaza.

It is Gaza's children who are most vulnerable to starvation.

And 10-year-old Dima, playing with her friends, had this message for the Americans.

Children are dying from hunger.

Men walk towards death just to bring us food and water.

And we're dying.

Limited aid is now getting in, but the UN says it's nowhere near enough.

And there's no ceasefire either.

The health ministry in Gaza says at least 10 people were killed in a strike on a tent encampment in the so-called safe humanitarian zone.

John Donison reporting.

Our international editor, Jeremy Bowen, is also in Jerusalem.

He told us what impact Steve Witcoff's visit to Gaza might have.

It might confirm some of the things that the Americans are saying to themselves about the GHF being a success.

He may stick with Netanyahu's narrative on that.

I think that as a VIP visiting the place, he probably had a very one-eyed view of what was going on there.

He didn't see any of the other scenes.

Remember something very important: every parachute you you see with aid attached to it comes from an aircraft that each aircraft, which are very expensive to run, carries less than a big lorry.

The UN saying that the only way to deal with the humanitarian catastrophe in Gaza, apart from of course having a ceasefire, is to open the gates and allow in hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of trucks.

airdrops simply don't do that.

The British government believes that the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation model of giving out aid is discredited because it's not effective in getting aid to the people who need it.

And of course, so many people have been killed, both by the IDF, the Israeli military, and by the American mercenaries who work for GHF while they've been trying to get it.

Jeremy Bowen in Jerusalem.

Hundreds of protesters in Syria's predominantly Druze province of Soueda are demanding the withdrawal of government forces after deadly sectarian violence there last month.

The security forces had been sent to curb fighting between Druze militias and Bedouin tribes.

Mike Thompson reports: 1,400 people were reportedly killed in the clashes that broke out last month in Syria's southern Zawada province between Druze militia and Bedouin tribesmen.

Government forces were sent in to stop the violence, but Druze people claim they sided with the largely Sunni Muslim Bedouins and summarily executed Druze civilians.

Protesters in the majority Druze province are demanding that the remaining forces leave.

The government says a committee has been set up to investigate the claims and will report back within the next three months.

Mike Thompson.

It wasn't that long ago that billions of us found ourselves having to work from home during the COVID pandemic.

Lots of people around the world have now returned to the office, but more than 900 million of us still work remotely, at least some of the time.

The question is, is that good value for money?

Research here in the UK suggests broadband activity dips significantly between three o'clock and five o'clock on Friday afternoons.

It sounds rather suspicious, so the BBC's Paddy O'Connell has been to a park in central London to find out what's going on.

It had just gone three when I arrived in this park and what struck me was how many people are on a screen.

Whether they're working or not in this beautiful park where it's recently rained, people are all staring at a screen.

Now the people who weren't sitting on this bench told me that I'd caught them out because one of them regularly works from the park or cafe.

You got me?

Hang on it's 10 past three.

Are you working from home?

Well technically no.

Technically I don't work on Fridays.

Like it's more Monday, Thursday, 9 to 5 and then Fridays it's like till 1.

But do you think people are knocking off early?

Yeah.

I honestly think it depends on the person.

Some people do stay till 5, some people don't.

Is it a problem?

I think if you get the work done and you're like on top of your deadlines then no.

I think if you don't then yes.

There's a survey that says that broadband use drops by 8% after 3% on a Friday.

They're putting this down to people who are knocking off early, and I'm wondering if you think that's happening.

I'm certainly more productive at home than I am in the office, I find, so I prefer it myself.

But I can see in some jobs maybe that people would maybe take the Mickey.

Would you be surprised that some people knock off early?

I wouldn't be surprised.

By any chance, are you working from home now with your dog?

I'm just about to go home to work, but I will be working until about eight o'clock tonight.

Yes.

So if you were to take a work email here, would that be working from home whilst throwing a ball for the Spaniel?

No.

I mean, I wouldn't consider that working.

Patty O'Connell reporting.

Isabel Berwick reports on management and the workplace for the Financial Times newspaper.

Is she surprised that people are clocking off at three?

No, it doesn't surprise me at all.

But actually, quite a lot of firms do sanction it.

We've seen a lot of firms over the summer, you know, including big consulting firms, including KPMG, for example, saying on a Friday at 1pm you can take the afternoon off if you've met your targets.

I think that's the crucial thing.

And, you know, the FT reported yesterday that the average cost of a nanny in London is now more than £50,000 a year.

So any relief with childcare costs is going to be very welcome.

And there are some employers that are...

allowing people to work from home in August, particularly for that reason.

So I think there are some really enlightened employers out there.

Actually, a better measure of productivity is your output.

And I think more enlightened companies are thinking about that.

You know, if you get your work done, you can be more flexible.

But there are people telling me there are companies that are now requiring people to go to the office on Friday and Monday to make sure no one takes a long weekend.

Bosses are often not trusting.

There's a huge gulf between how productive workers think they are at home and how productive their managers think they are.

Isabel Berrick from the Financial Times.

Now, it's a battle of power and of recognition.

A growing number of women across Africa are aiming to change the traditionally male image of arm wrestling, and they're enjoying the benefits and opportunities that come with it.

BBC Sport Africa's Emmanuel Akendabuwa has been to the Africa Arm Wrestling Championship in Abuja, Nigeria.

Muscles tensed, elbows rooted.

Two women stare each other out across a table.

This is the Africa Arm Wrestling Championship in Abuja, Nigeria.

This year's competition has seen a 47% rise in female contestants.

One of them is Ross Marie Borter from South Africa.

One of the best things about Arm Wrestling is it's not a time-consuming sport unless you want to go to elite level.

On an amateur level, it really is something that just keeps you going, keeps you moving, makes you stronger.

Arm wrestling is a lifesaver for me.

My bone strength is good because I do the lifting of weights.

From street corners to arenas across Africa, female arm wrestlers are changing the narrative about what strength and femininity really means.

They are not just competing for medals, but putting up a show of confidence and self-expression.

Referee Sandra Unduku explains why.

Myself, I have defeated many men in arm wrestling.

Women should evolve more.

It boosts their confidence.

You know, it makes you feel in charge.

You know, now I can stand here and speak because I am an arm wrestler.

Arm wrestling is all about confidence and strength.

Grace Minter is a world arm wrestling champion.

She says competing has given her opportunities she'd never have otherwise had.

I'm wrestling has done a lot for me.

I've seen a lot of countries which I'm not even, I didn't even think of going thereself.

But I'm wrestling, I've done a lot, I've gone far.

And it's not just about physical strength, it's about mental strength too.

Here's referee Sandra Unduku again.

When the referee says, ready, go.

If you're not mentally smart enough to move, the opponent will move before you, and that will be a win.

The sport made its debut at the African Games in 2024 but players like Winnifred Ndidi who's from Nigeria say they want it to go even bigger.

We are hoping to win Ness Olympic, nice common work.

With that kind of conviction, AM wrestling is sure to go from strength to strength for women in Africa.

That report was by Emmanuel Akendumbua in Nigeria.

Rhino horns are being injected with radioactive isotopes as part of a new anti-poaching campaign in South Africa.

Scientists from the University of Vitvootesrand hope the process will allow customs officers to detect any smuggled horns as they're transported around the world.

One member of the team said the technique was like putting a light inside the horn that no one can turn off.

Ed Habersham sent this report from Johannesburg.

South Africa is home to the world's largest rhino population and according to conservation groups more than 400 are poached every year.

So a group of scientists at Witts University in Johannesburg turned to nuclear technology to put off poachers.

Six years in the making, the project came to a head in the last six months as scientists injected radioisotopes into the horns of 20 rhinos across two locations in South Africa.

The radiation can then be detected at transport hubs across the world with the aim of discouraging would-be smugglers.

Professor James Larkin is the lead scientist on the project.

We are piggybacking on an existing infrastructure that was put into place to prevent nuclear terrorism.

And the very same equipment that can prevent nuclear terrorism can be used to reduce, if not eliminate, wildlife traffic of rhino horn.

Before launching the project, which was a collaboration with the International Atomic Energy Agency and cost just over £200,000,

scientists made sure radiation levels were not harmful to the rhinos or to humans who might come close to the radioactive horns.

The technique is now available to anyone who needs it, and Professor Larkin hopes to be injecting his first horn within two months.

Ed Habersham in South Africa.

And that's all from us for now, but there will be a new edition of the Global News podcast later.

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