Episode 237: All Day Running Co.: The Mindset, Lessons, and Benefits Of Biking 3,000 Miles Across America

Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins.

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Well, this is a very unique kind of podcast.

I've never done something like this before, obviously, but basically, Jesse,

a good friend of mine, is basically going across the country for two weeks on a bike with a gaggle of friends.

And I thought this would be very interesting to kind of hear about the mindset, how the training is, how this whole thing even kind of evolved.

Knowing Jesse, I'm sure it was your idea.

And you thought, okay, like, who am I going to get involved?

Like, well, how did you even think of this?

Because knowing this start, because it's like, I don't even know where to begin with you.

Well, no, I mean, I have a philosophy that I follow that I've learned from Kevin, who will be here in a minute, where every year I try to put something big on my calendar.

And I've been doing it for years.

Here's Kevin.

Here's Kevin.

And take a seat, Kev.

So.

So this year,

since, so this is, I've been doing that for a long time.

And way back in 2006, I kind of made like a list of things I wanted to do in my lifetime.

And ride across the country was always one of them.

But it was never the right time.

You know, I always had work or this or that.

So this year I was talking to Chris, who's a good friend of mine.

And I said, you know, he said, there's no better time than now.

Let's make it happen.

Let's carve out, you know, how fast can we do it?

We started mapping this out.

We said, let's take two weeks.

and try to get across the country 3,000 miles

in two weeks.

And then it was like, who else is crazy enough to do it?

Right.

And obviously, Devin besides me, is crazy enough because I feel like you're always like side by side with these kind of action-oriented things.

Like Helena Hill, I always see you guys doing it together, even though I know that's your thing.

A lot of these things, right?

Like, you're kind of, you just, are you just up for everything whenever, anytime?

Yeah, it's like, I think everyone at this table can agree when Jesse says, let's go do something.

You kind of just say, let's go.

That was a mix.

Nobody kind of creates more excitement than you, Jesse.

I appreciate it.

But everybody here is built a life on adventure.

Everybody here has really good work-life balance.

There's 10 of us riding, and everybody here has really, you know, made sure to emphasize while they build their career, whatever their career, and we have some that are in the police, that are policemen, some that are in the military, some that are trainers, that while they're doing that, and entrepreneurs, Dev, Rick, Brian is his own company.

You know, we try to make sure that we also take care of ourselves and do stuff that we love to do.

We love it.

Chris is a term that I love, and he says, you know, he calls it being adventure ready.

Adventure ready, yeah.

I mean, when that call comes, you want to be in a place that you can say yes to the phone call.

And that is, whether it's skiing in Japan with your buddies or it's a bike ride like this, that you have a base level of fitness just because you live a healthy lifestyle.

to then say, you know what?

I can be ready.

How long do I need?

Six weeks, eight weeks?

What's got to be?

And then going from there.

And so I think everybody at this table and in this group is always adventure ready and then pivot to whatever the adventure is.

Okay, so let's break it down.

So you have this idea, you said this, this sort of something that you wanted to do on your bucket list.

You then called your friends, like, what's your background?

Can we start with you?

Because

you have a

background.

I'm a former athlete with Acon for many years and then moved into sort of coaching and endurance coaching and mindset coaching.

And so now I work with Jesse on a variety of of benefits when it comes to coaching, mindset, executive coaching, and then we also have all-day running cover.

Wow.

Okay.

And Kevin, what is your background?

So I'm a police officer, and

I love the term adventure-ready.

I like to always think that if anyone calls me any day, I can always do a half-Ironman, maybe even an Ironman.

But just like Chris said, just to be ready, like always ready to do something.

Jesse calls, I'm ready.

So I feel like you guys all have the, so that's how you guys are all kind of, it sounds to me, have a very similar mindset, Regardless of the actual background you do day to day, you guys all come from that adventurous background and are somewhat very somewhat athletic in your life, doing something, maybe not an Olympian, but something else.

You look like you are like a cyclist though.

It might be a little bit.

It might be like Lance Armstrong.

Just a little bit, just a little bit.

And not to go through everybody here, but overall,

have you guys all had cycling as your background a little bit?

Or is it just all different

types of sports that you doubt that

you can train for this?

I just bought the bike three weeks ago.

What?

I just bought the bike three weeks ago.

You've never biked before?

No, I mean, not until three weeks ago.

I mean, I know how to ride a bike.

Not a road bike.

Not like a road bike.

Like a mountain bike.

Yeah.

No, road bike.

No.

I'm learning the signals for sand

and slow down.

Yeah, you figure it out.

That's why Deb's at the best.

No one's buying bike.

Jeb is a get pulled.

But is there like somebody who's steering the ship though, so to speak, that's kind of keeping everything in line?

Nate, Nate,

former Pearl Mountain biker.

Where is he?

He's out here.

He's outside the building.

He's outside.

Okay, okay.

So he's going to keep...

Okay, so he's not going to be involved in this podcast today.

But there's two parts of this, Jen.

Part one is getting across the country seeing.

Oh, I know.

But part two is like, when do you get a chance to go away with friends?

Seriously, like, we all have families and when do you have a chance to go away for two weeks with friends?

So we're getting our bikes across the country, but we're also, we're bringing a sauna, we're bringing cold plunges, we're gonna break down at night in campsites and an RV and tents, and we're turning it into like, like really like teenagers going on a teen tour, you know, we're turning it into a real experience.

The common thread is everybody here has an athletic background or is into this kind of stuff, but more importantly, like we're

we understand the importance of friendship and experiences.

And we're not trying to set a world record here.

Like, we want to have fun.

We want to see the country.

I've never seen the country, you know?

And I think for anyone listening, as you get older, to create newness is really hard.

Like, where does newness come from?

You have to schedule it.

Like, it doesn't just happen.

You go to work, you go home, you put your kids to sleep, you wake up, you do it again.

You have to schedule newness.

Like, Rick's a really good example of that.

Like, Rick is a really

aggressive calendar.

He plans trips, he plans races, he plans date nights, and he sold two businesses or more.

I don't even know.

But he's got a really aggressive planning schedule.

And for us, you know, this is about

newness.

It's about the unknown.

Like, how do we plan it?

We're loosey-goosey plan.

But a lot of the adventure is...

is figuring it out as you go.

Okay, so what is the, what kind of training schedule did have?

like to drive your bike from one part of the country to another that requires a lot of training and time So what is that training like and what is like the breakdown day to day?

I feel you should definitely take this but I I personally think that everyone's kind of been training their whole life for something like this and and not to go back to adventure ready but like everyone's in shape, you know, so now it's just like you know, kind of altering it a little bit.

So rather than doing, you know, 500 push-ups a day, maybe I'm only going to do 100 and go do 30 miles instead.

I mean, that's for me at least.

No, I'm just that part.

But I'm just saying, like, I'm in shape, right?

But I'm not, I don't cycle for hours and hours every day, right?

So even if I would say yes to something like this, I would imagine every day you'll be what?

You'll be cycling how many hours a day to get from here to, you know, across the country in 17, 14 days.

Just 12 hours, right?

Like, like, what, like, how many hours are you guys planning on driving a bike every day?

Like, 12 hours?

Sun up to sun down.

Right.

So that's a whole different modality of training.

So if I'm a runner, for example, and I've never done my bike or I've never done whatever, it would take me a while to get to that level.

How many months did you have to train the reverse engineer to get ready, even if you are adventure reddened?

So just to just to take it one step back before you even answer that, Kevin was talking about this earlier, but this is our job for 14 days.

So that we've, you know, like you can't go into this with a lot on your mind or a lot of work.

So we've cleared this slate.

Anything like this, you got to clear the slate.

And this is our job.

So like it's, it starts with not how many miles or whatever.

It's, we've all committed.

We all talked about it today.

Everybody here is committed to suffer.

No, they are.

We're committed to go through whatever it takes to make sure that this group gets across.

So it's less about the how many miles, how many, it's like there's a serious commitment and bond already formed.

And, you know, what I love about this stuff is the bonds that come from anything like this that you do with friends, that's tough and you suffer with it as a group, you know, is so much deeper than sitting in a cubicle for 10 years in an office.

So the training, but going back to this, so it starts with the mindset that we're committed to doing it.

We've already done it.

We're filling in the blank.

The ride's done.

There's no way we're not getting across the country.

We just got to get across the country now.

So the commitment is there.

The training varies.

You know, Jack, Jack, how old are you?

66.

So Jack is the oldest of the group.

Jack is 66 years old.

He's 66 years old and he has been you know he's been training I mean what's some of the mileage that you've done with Kevin how long has it been hundred mile rides right

couples

yeah

how many hundreds I think only two three maybe yeah I think I did three yeah so you don't have to go crazy with the training right Chris I mean yeah I mean it's funny you ask what how many months of training did we do we none of us did any months of training we did a bunch of weeks but that's I think the group that Jesse put together that we all know we're going to figure this out physically mentally emotionally for two weeks however we need to and we have some stronger cyclists and some newer cyclists but put this group together it's gonna get the job done right no I'm I'm just more this is more like just tactical curiosity right like and from a tactical standpoint the only thing we have to get ready for is getting used to sitting on a bike seat Yeah, because it gets uncomfortable, it gets really difficult after a while, but that's sort sort of the last six weeks, eight weeks.

You're just sort of doing reps of that.

Now, what happens if one person doesn't want to ride like more than a few, like if they don't feel well?

Can they go into the band?

So there's no, like, there's not like no one's a stickler, right?

Like, so if one person can't do one day, that's fine.

Like, it's very, that's what you mean by loosey-loosey, right?

Like, there's, it's not, there's not like a stringent thing where.

Yeah, I mean, someone had, someone

had asked me on Instagram, are we going to post our Strava, like our digitally post our daily mileage?

mileage?

You know, they wanted to make sure that we, the guy said to me, like, I want to make sure you guys are fully transparent.

And I was like, I'm riding a bike.

I'm not running for office.

You know, like,

do I, who am I trying to impress?

You know, you know, like, it's the same mindset.

We, we have, I guess, Rick, you have your own company.

We have two or three people here that are, that are business owners.

And I think it's a similar kind of thing.

It's like, when you start a business or you do arrive any big goal, it's like, if you get hung up in the how,

too much of the how, it gets really intimidating and overwhelming and overwhelming.

And like, we never think about, like, I never think about the how.

It's like, you know, you create this idea and this vision of what you want to do, and then you figure it out.

Yeah.

We're riding our bike across the monk country and then we're going to figure it out.

That's so interesting.

It reminds me, like, this should be like a movie, like an old school.

Remember the movie, like old school, or one of those, where the guys, a bunch of guys just randomly get do something.

And like, it seems very like this.

It's kind of like there's, it's very fluid.

That doesn't really matter.

But in that, in that is the beauty.

Yeah.

And in that is the adventure.

In that is the curiosity.

In that is that we don't know.

Yeah.

In that is like that adventure because we don't know what two days from now will bring.

Right.

And that's what exactly fires up this glue.

It's the experience.

No, we'll figure it out.

But like, okay, but how about the, and I keep on going back to like tactical, like logistics, weather, stuff like that.

Like, who's the person who's, is that Nate as well?

Who's kind of like figuring out the weather and stuff, the details like that?

We have evening tactical meetings where we go over the day, how it went, what we can improve, and what the next day looks like, terrain and wind and conditions and how we're feeling.

And then we're just going to work from there one day at a time.

But it's more experience-oriented, not so much about the strava

data.

No one here knows, everybody here, we're starting tomorrow morning.

Everybody here knows their role and responsibility for tomorrow and what the route is, the elevation, the wind, the weather in the morning, the weather at night.

Not one single person here knows day two.

And definitely no one knows day three.

But that's the beauty.

No, no, well, you know, that's part of it.

No, but Jen, you want to talk about tactics?

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Think about that.

Because we can't get to day two if we don't complete day one.

So we're locked into day one.

We have a plan and a mission.

We broke a 14-day thing into digestible bites.

Tomorrow's day one.

And then after that, then we're going to break and peel apart day two in an ops meeting.

Everyone will get their roles on responsibility because we have some guys that can climb better than others.

Some guys that want to grind at night.

Some guys are workhorses.

Like everybody has a different role.

And that role will change.

For example, Rick might be, Rick's a very skilled rider.

He's done, he's a world-class Ironman.

He's done.

He ran seven marathons in seven continents.

So did Chris.

If it's raining and sloppy, Rick might have a lead role that day.

So every day is different, but like anything, it's digestible bites.

Literally, like no one here is thinking of this as 3,000 miles.

Everybody is thinking of it.

What we're all really, really good at, because

we've done a bunch of endurance stuff, is pedal by pedal.

Everybody's good at staying, at being present.

Because if you get out of that mindset, oh my God, we got 2,960 more months, it's done.

It's just pedal to pedal, hill to hill.

And that's the approach.

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What about like nutrition then?

Did you guys, is there that?

Are you guys thinking about that?

Did anyone eat properly training that wise for energy, for anything, or is it just also winging it?

You're eating just a bunch of like whatever.

Come on, Jennifer.

The whole thing is you fasting

on water, on water, you're doing a five-day water fast starting

fast, right?

Have you noticed in like endurance, like you know,

you know, climbing mountains like 41 hours straight, right?

like you're kind of just getting whatever you can in your body like whenever your body is hungry and it's like you know you feel that you just get whatever you can whatever you can kind of feel like there's no i don't i mean i've never really had a protocol for that but i do know the only protocol i've stuck to is more fats because like when you when you go long

long periods of times your body starts to burn fast versus carbs and so anything over an hour or two i'm just eating fats as much as possible a lot of honey

a lot of coconut mania just fats chris I mean, yeah.

And we're going to be on the bike so many hours that our food windows are going to be very limited.

And so we're just going to be eating the entire time.

And it is sort of like whatever we can get now.

We are lucky that we have a chef.

There is a chef.

There is a chef less.

We put a lot of thought into this and a lot of care into making sure we get in a lot of calories, like eight to ten thousand calories in the little windows that we can actually eat.

Because while you're on the bike, you can't eat that much.

So you're already creating a deficit.

So those 12 hours, 10 hours that we're off the bike of the 24-hour window, we're also sleeping in there somewhere.

So it's going to have this eating a lot component.

Most of you guys lose a lot of weight just because of the amount of, even if you were

adventure ready, I would imagine that you would still have to, you'd lose a lot of weight just by adding this amount of added exercise.

We're going to retain a lot of water, just that's how the body responds, and we'll react to the inflammation that this is creating.

But yeah, I would see afterwards that three, four days after, it's just going to come shedding off of us.

And it's going to be a good before and after picture.

How much weight did you lose, Training Kev?

About 14 pounds.

Did you lose any tip?

No.

Lipping.

Really?

I think that, like, for

the 14 days, like as we just continue to go and go, one thing is we're going to like ride ourselves into shape, you know, like because everyone here is not like an amateur or professional cyclist, like there's the Ram, the race across America, and people are trying to kind of compare that to what we're doing.

It's different, you know?

And we're here to build bonds and to have an experience, but to get through with the same, with...

the determination every day.

And I think that, you know, once we finished get, you know, leave San Diego, we hit the first hill, reality's going to come

shit.

We got a long way to go.

Right.

And you guys didn't all know each other, you said before.

So we're going to learn each other.

You're going to get to know each other on this ride, basically.

Yeah, and our legs are going to get to learn the road.

I think that, and, but the mind, I think the common thing here is mindset is as anyone who's done anything endurance-wise or anything that they don't think they can do, they have to put their mind to it.

Also, what I think is really interesting for anyone listening is like when you can put yourself in a group of people like this.

I'm the youngest kid in the group.

I'm 30.

I'm a sponge.

I'm listening to Jack and his stories.

I mean, the guy was in the military for 25 years.

Jesse, five plus companies, three plus companies sold.

All these guys have like insane stories.

Everyone has a story.

All you have to do is ask.

And so, like.

Anyone listening, highly encourage get a group of people, even if you've never met him.

I met Jack this morning for the first time.

Oh, really so it's like but I've already learned so much about him where I'm like man this guy's wise he's a wise guy you know and I don't know I just think it's where your brain really starts to expand is when you meet new people and see new things yeah school doesn't do that for you cubicles will never do that for you a happy hour a real estate happy hour finite like that's never gonna do it for you but when you have totally random people somewhat but have similar values.

I think that's what everyone shares here.

Everyone likes adventure.

Everyone loves their family.

Everyone wants to grow.

Everyone likes doing gritty stuff.

Wants to sucker together.

Yeah, everything has to suffer.

Everyone has the same values.

So you start putting those people together and you start seeing new stuff, your brain starts to expand.

Well, it's shared experience as it bonds people together.

Can I say something, Jen?

Yeah,

so I think that I will say that, you know, like it's just lifestyle for everyone.

I think lifestyle for everyone here is that we, you know, you want to push up.

Everyone's athletic at some point in life.

And I think, and I, I don't want, but I don't want to embarrass Jess, but we're very fortunate that we have Jesse as because Jesse is a person who has motivated a lot of people.

And, you know, I saw Jesse do his first 100-mile race.

I crewed him back when no one was doing 100-mile races.

And I don't just, how many people showed up to Texas?

We had 100 people.

I mean, this was 2007, maybe.

Yeah.

Look at how many people run 100-mile racing back then.

We had an RV.

We had

bands.

We had like, well, Jesse had bands.

I was good.

And I mean, I did, but my my job, it was, I tell you, it was, I was so nervous because Jesse, Jesse's cousin, and myself, we had to keep track of the laps because they had a counter, but we had to make sure he kept it.

It was so nerve-wracking to do a hundred-mile.

But my point is, is he's taken that and the community that we had there, everyone was there to watch him.

We had campsites, his parents, his dad was there, and it was the most incredible experience.

And from there, Jesse raised a million dollars in 2007 doing a 100-mile race.

A million dollars.

He gave a hundred grand to 10 different charities.

And let me tell you something.

He's still, those people are still right by Jesse.

And from there, all this is just built on itself.

And

that's why we're all similar.

But, you know, Jesse put this in motion for us.

And that's, that, that is, that is, that's as a friend.

Jesse's been a great friend to me for so long.

So that's, you know,

that's a really amazing story.

Yeah, it's the truth.

Yeah.

Well, the greatest thing about having, you know, of, you know, people's relationship with money is very warped.

And I don't think if I were to say that people listening, like, if people wired you a million dollars or five million dollars, you know, what would you do with it?

Most people don't even know what they're working for.

Right.

But the money, you know, should make your life better.

It should make it richer in experiences.

And like for me, I don't have a lot of Picasso on my wall of zero.

I don't have a lot of, you know, I like doing this.

And the best part of it is you get to do it with your friends and you get to treat your friends to things that all of us wouldn't have been able to probably do, you know, the way we're doing it.

And we talk about that all the time.

It's not like we hide from it.

Like it's, you know, it's an amazing gift, but and we're in a position to do it.

And that's the best part about this.

You know, it's being able to share things like this with people.

And like for me, I feel so lucky that I'm like, we always said, how can we be in this age, healthy enough, financially, okay enough, and spiritual enough to take this journey and to have husbands, wives, but friends, kids, whatever, girlfriends that

give us the freedom to do it.

You know, like a lot of times you could get met with resistance, like, what are you doing?

You know, like that would lead to so much resentment.

You know, if Rick said to his wife, I want to do this, and his wife said, Rick, I'm not letting you do that.

He would resent his wife, but he's in a relationship where we're all in relationships where we can do that.

And that's like such a gift from our partners, you know, because I have a lot of friends that are like, well, I'll never be allowed to do that.

And, you know, that's, that's a tough way to go through it.

Yeah, absolutely.

That was my next question.

Like, what is your, what are your family state?

Even like your mom or dad, who's still alive, whoever, you know, because there's an element of danger, right?

You're writing on.

You can't tell anybody.

Well, maybe you can't.

We just better hit the paper.

We'll be back.

No, but I mean, just the element of danger alone.

Not even so much about not letting letting you leave the house, like a wife or whatever, but just like your kids or your mom or your dad, like, because it is kind of a nerve-wracking thing to be on the road with cars and whatever else can happen, right?

Yeah.

Anybody have any do you want to, how about you?

Do you want to

do you want to say something?

Well, I'd like to get back to the wife thing because I don't even know half these guys' wives, but I know that's a fact of Jesse said.

Yeah.

Being in the military for 25 years and my wife isn't what we say, saying, go.

It's going to be three months.

Go.

That's what you want to do.

But this trip, as Jesse says, I use Morse code if you want to communicate with me.

My wife downloaded the equipment list.

She bought everything on that list.

She packed it up.

I came in.

She goes,

Your underwear is over there if you want it.

And other than that, you're ready to go.

That's awesome.

That's okay.

That's amazing.

Where do you live, by the way?

I live in New York.

New York.

Okay.

Where do most of you guys?

Are you guys all

california

and you so this is by the way is this the first

is this your first adventure with jesse i know yours is not yours is not yours is not yours is definitely not have you guys had other adventures all together like even if it wasn't with this particular group yeah

yeah so jack kevin and i did a hike up of mount washington in new hampshire And I was concerned that if you in Mount Washington in the winter, when you do a hike and you get up there, if you hurt your ankle, there's no way down.

So I said to Kevin, what happens if I sprain my ankle?

It's minus 30 degrees up there.

You know, it's five miles down or whatever.

How am I going to get down?

Kevin's like, I'll take you down.

I said, what if you sprain your ankle?

He's like, good point.

I'll bring Jack.

And that's all I met, Jack.

True story.

That's really, really funny.

There was a pause.

There was a pause.

There was a pause.

He was like, you got a good point.

I'll bring Jack.

I never think I'll bring him

off his motorcycle.

And so he didn't tell his wife he was going, so he's not in any of the pictures.

Oh my god, that is so funny.

Jack moved to the side.

Oh my god.

Jack took the song.

That is so funny.

It actually shows that basically similar people gravitate to each other, right?

Like look at this group of people that you have.

And Tim and I, Brian and I have done a bunch of stuff.

Rick, this is our first, we rode our bike together.

Well, this is our first kind of real event together.

And Tim and I have done multiple well he crewed me for ultraman you know we mean

yeah we've all we've all done really cool stuff and like no one's won anything kevin's won some stuff but no one's no one's won anything oh some stuff chris is probably talking about we have an olivia

and you just want to hide box away

all right

so is me i mean everyone here i mean so is college athlete, you know, college athlete.

That's the only thing that Death brought is that these two weeks also, you get into somewhat of a flow state, right?

Because you're on this challenge skill threshold, right?

Like it's going to be very hard, but and we have to use all our skills that we've accumulated, whether through a lifetime or over the last few weeks, to stay safe on the road because there's a danger level.

So you're already very immersed in the moment here, very focused.

But then also this aspect of learning new people and growing and getting insights from different people that raises the interest level and the memories even more.

So, then into unknown territory with people you're getting to know who all come with different skills, I mean, we're going to get to Florida, and it's just going to be this blur of

really deep, immersive 14 days.

Have you guys envisioned Florida in your head yet or no?

No,

no, no, no, no, I'm thinking of tomorrow.

Can't even imagine.

I haven't either.

Usually, like,

you like to envision the sale of a company or the finish line of a marathon, but I haven't let myself get there yet.

Further out.

I've got to survive so far.

That's a further thing.

Yeah, exactly.

So stopping at a resort day too in Arizona.

Oh, you are?

Wow.

So I even stay there for the rest of the month.

I've got those snails coming.

Maybe to like...

the Texas border, but beyond that, my head just starts falling apart.

I'm staying on one day at a time.

I mean, I don't, this is such a, like I said, unique podcast.

It's hard because I'm very curious and I don't know how to,

about all of you guys.

Because then

basically, though, you guys are all very accomplished athletes.

And I want to make sure people understand that.

You guys, you didn't ask people who are not, it's not like nobody here has been doing things daily, every day, like in their personal fitness and health and wellness, right?

Like the average Joe.

couldn't just decide because they follow you.

Yeah, I want to do this to you.

And the reason why I'm asking this is when you decided to do this, did you make it so anybody who is in your friendship group is available that they can join?

Did you ask very specific people that you knew could actually like do it, like him and him and him?

Like everybody here is pretty accomplished in that area.

Yeah.

Well, two things.

One is this isn't biking you.

Biping is different because of the danger factor.

Yeah, especially.

So you have to...

be comfortable making turns and with cars whizzing by you and all that kind of stuff.

So that was a dev Dev is a quick study.

I mean, we joke about it, but

Dev won't be able to sort it out and figure it out.

He bare crawled a marathon.

I know.

I was a man to talk about that, but

this is what I'm saying, though.

So when you first decided that, well, you've not decided, this was one of your things you always wanted to do.

But were you strategic in like, okay, these are the people that I'm going to go after?

Or did you open it to all your friends who were just like...

You know what?

But

you know what?

It didn't get past 10 people.

He only had to ask 10 people.

No, no, no.

That was it.

Yeah, well, I was going to say, but if you had asked 30, 30 people would be here right now.

40 people, if you would have asked 40.

Look at that pickle thing.

I mean, it's unbelievable.

You know what I mean?

Just put it out there and you'll have the entire, you know, half of the U.S.

going to be, will be like outside doing it with you.

The camaraderie and the getting, you know, it's like putting together a professional sports team.

The locker room has to be right.

Right.

The RV and the tents have to be right.

And,

you know, if someone's slow here, no one cares.

This is a group group of guys that's just going to be supportive and so that came into into into play uh and we have a great group and not only the riders there's 10 riders but there's you know we're documenting it so there's a film crew no it's all the television we have yeah we have we have an rv we have two support vehicles we are pulling we have a chef we have to eat we're in the middle of nowhere so there's a total of 27 people I think 32, because some are going in and out.

32 people that are part of this caravan to put this on.

So, who you have a chef?

We have a chef, and the chef has someone helping.

We have

basically.

Yeah, we have it.

We have a tattoo artist

for you,

obviously.

We have, we're sleeping in an RV.

The RV is a driver, and then we have tents because we can't accompany 27 people.

So, there's a guy that has the tent company.

He has his own RV pulling the tents that he's going to set up.

We have two people that are going to be at the RV parks to make sure that we have seven vehicles, that they're all set up on time.

We have two support cars with two drivers.

We're pulling a sauna and two cold plunges on a flatbed truck.

How big's a sauna?

How big's the sauna that you're taking?

Two.

Two saunas.

Three of us.

Ten seats.

Yeah, yeah.

Very serious.

Cold plunges.

We like to think of this as a sauna trip with a bike ride.

Yeah, I was what I was saying.

Is that really more or less what it's going to be?

Like cold plunging and saunas and a little bit of biking in between.

Let me tell you something.

We are probably, if you look at this group as bike riders, we're, you know, excluding Rick and Chris Nate, Brian, we're probably B-

cyclists.

We're not like pro-cyclists at all.

We're better than recreational, whatever.

We are top 20 in the world sauna people.

Easily.

And cold plunging, at least, at least.

I mean, so you're bringing the cold plunge, cold plunge, like the cold plunge.

Tim's one of the best sauna people I've ever

who can say longer than a sauna walking in tip.

Isn't sauna poppy the best sauna person?

Oh, yeah,

He's a professional.

So what is he doing?

Sana's sauna.

Is that what he's doing right now?

That's why he's not here in the podcast exactly.

San is in Cold Planet.

Yeah.

He is

a professional.

So he does relate.

What do you mean, a professional sauna person that doesn't even make sense?

I can just sit to the sauna.

You go into work like nine to five.

Finance, real estate.

He goes nine to five sauna cold funds.

It's all about

literally he just does round.

innings but does it is but how do you get how is that an occupation you can make anything you want an occupation do you get paid do you get paid to be sitting in a sauna all day people pay to go in the sauna with him why

same reason to sit down and do a podcast with you yeah but no it's not the same i'm not saying what's confusing is isn't that like a pastime a hobby how does that become a job Does he teach people how to do it?

If you look at the wave of all the hot cold contrasts.

So he was ahead ahead of the curve.

He has a facility where people come in and all day long.

He goes in the hot and cold with them and teaches them how to breathe and how to do it.

Right.

Well, there's also people.

So where is he?

Too cold in here for him.

He doesn't go anywhere.

He's full-on work.

We were at one of the Hell in the Hills that Jesse and All Day Running we put together.

And he slept in the sauna instead of in the RV.

He chose to sleep in a 120-degree sauna.

He was insulted.

He was even brought up that he was sleeping in an RV.

So he set up a XRM.

He had a beautiful cot and sleeping bag, and he had the choice of the RV.

And he goes, no, bro, I'm going in my sauna.

And he slept in a sauna that was still cooling down from 180 degrees.

for the night and he woke up in the morning happy smell.

My favorite thing about sauna is he created these oils for like eucalyptus kind of things for the specifically for the sauna right he has his custom blend the poppy the poppy blend but it also doubles as his deodorant yeah and lotion no way squares yeah it smells great

it's like essential oil

but he doesn't smell like it

is this for real oh yeah

where did you find this person in the freedom

what sauna did you find him in the first place did you find him did you find where is it from now that i I found the poppy.

We were

poppy.

Please.

What is his name?

I have no idea.

So, is there also a cold plunger poppy?

A plunge poppy?

A plunge poppy.

No, but there's a pickle poppy.

Is there?

That's you.

There's a pickle poppy.

But you're like, you wear lots of hats, Poppy.

It's like an all-day running poppy, a running poppy, a Viking Poppy.

Are you the Cold Plunge Poppy then, or the Plunge Poppy?

No.

I see you sitting in that lady.

I'm doing a lot of stuff.

I'm a lot of puppy.

Yeah, you're a lot of poppy.

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I've seen you like do crazy shit on like a treadmill.

Like you're running and then you do 10 back flips back.

It's crazy.

And then you do a you bear crawled across the country?

No, not yet.

Bear crawled a marathon.

Oh, not across the country.

Sorry.

Sorry, sorry.

Your biking is crossing.

But maybe now there's an idea in there.

You'll do that.

Not

Yeah, not yet.

So wait, you barecalled a marathon.

Yeah, 26.2 miles in 20 hours and 48 minutes.

Yeah.

Wow.

Through New York City, started in Brooklyn, all the way up through Harlem, back down through Central Park.

So where did you even get that idea?

Oh, man, shoot.

This is like 2019.

And I was out in England with my buddy Ross Edgeley.

He just finished swimming around.

Great Britain in 147 days without touching land.

And him and I were together in England.

He's like, man, you should do something something crazy.

And I'm like, what do you think I should do?

Bear call the marathon.

And like, right when he said that, I bear crawled.

And I turn around and I said, I think I could do this.

And then I got back to America and I just started bear crawling.

So I did a one-mile bear crawl in New York City, like day one.

But before that, 24 hours prior, I started calling on my buddy.

He said, dude, I'm going to bear crawl the marathon.

I'm going to bear crawl this marathon.

I'm telling my family, I'm going to bear crawl this marathon.

So I go in and do a mile.

And then I was like, shit, I don't know if I can do this

and i was like i already told everyone i got to do this now so i just started dirt crawling every day for a year

is that the craziest thing you've done or is there a craziest

what's the craziest thing that you've done i mean that was pretty great i mean i would say at cacao the highest point in south america is 23 about 23 000 feet and you're supposed to climb it in 12 days and like acclimate properly and we climbed it in 41 hours without acclimating and that was that was pretty messed up that was really hard in the body, but those are pretty close.

But it's just your body.

I mean, how far can your body go without sleeping, Chris?

You know, like

you know, 24 hours, 36, 100, like what is your body capable of?

I don't know.

He made a really good point today.

We kind of went around the circle and said, why, like, you know, what do you want your miles to be?

And he was just like, I just want to be a pain cave.

You know, I just want to,

you know, you just want to hurt.

You know, he wants to feel it.

And that's, that's a different mindset.

You don't go into many rooms.

I just get back from Antarctica and I was at a table similar to this.

And you have SEAL Team 6, you have Al Tonnell, Justin Free Solo, and

they're talking about stories that most humans, 99.9% of humans, wouldn't even think about even doing.

And I don't know, you surround yourself with good people and then things just keep expanding.

Your brain just keeps...

expanding onto what's possible.

Wow.

What's the most craziest thing you've ever done?

It's the most crazy adventure you've ever done.

I think two months ago was pretty good.

Yeah, that was nuts.

So we did the seven marathons in seven days in seven continents with also a bunch of Navy SEALs and green berets and also for a cause and mental health and suicide prevention.

But yeah, going around the world trying to fit all that in in a matter of 24 hours on the continent before you move to the next one.

And it's mainly the jumping, jumping out of airplanes, out of helicopters where you're trying to get the safety protocols in and then also still run a marathon and figure all that out.

So that was pretty exhausting, but again, like he said, the stories and the experience and the suffering, it just opens a space within us that just, I believe it creates more real estate in the mind.

You go to the dark corners of the mind and you sort of open that door, turn the light on, look around and go, okay, I can use this real estate.

Or sometimes you shut that light off, close the door, and say, I'm not going to that door again.

That's right.

But it just, it allows you to just see the world in a different way.

How old are you?

53.

53.

So you're the oldest, you said?

67?

Chris, you look great for your age.

63.

You look great.

I thought you were the one.

My work's hard time at this point.

Yeah, you look excellent.

You look great.

Exactly.

52.

52.

How old are you?

52.

57.

50.

54.

I'm 30.

Wow, so you're weight.

Take Devin out of the equation.

Our average age is like.

This has to be a movie.

I swear to you, this should be like one of these funny Chris Farley kind of type of movies.

Like all the bunch of like 50-year-olds on bikes and a 30-year-old.

I think it's hilarious.

The least experienced one is the youngest.

Yes.

You brought the younger.

I'm really energy.

A crazy fit.

You'll be like whipping by.

You'll be back home in like what, three days?

Four days, maybe?

I'm going to stop being a Chris.

100 miles tomorrow.

I don't know.

Right out of the gate.

Let's go.

100 miles away.

Yeah, sure, I'll go.

Is there a charity attached?

What am I missing?

So, you know, for all of us growing up, having a bike as a kid was a big part of our childhood.

Gave us, you know, the ability to roam around.

And so for every,

the goal is that we've partnered up with an organization called Bike, what is it, Cash?

Bikes for Kids Foundation.

BikesforKidsFoundation.org.

I was confused that.

And 100% of the proceeds go to give kids in second and third grade bicycles and helmets that wouldn't otherwise have an opportunity to get it.

Yeah.

So it's bikes, bikes,

kids,

foundation that.

Yeah.

So it costs $135 to get a child a bike and a helmet.

And they put these kids through a leadership curriculum to make them earn the bike.

And so far to date,

we've already donated about 500 bikes.

We haven't even gotten started the ride yet.

So the goal is to...

500 bikes already?

Yeah.

So the goal is to get 3,000, one for every mile, which is the goal, which would be 300 grand, 300 something thousand dollars.

So hopefully we'll get it.

And what are you going to do with all the documented footage?

Are you going to try to do an actual dock for like Netflix on this or like make it into like a like a Will Farrell movie or what are you going to do with it?

Just have it for like safe.

Will Farrell should show up.

I'm telling you.

This is like increment.

I feel like the same vibe.

I'm telling you.

I've been in another place, I think.

No, I'm like feeling on the bike, like riding like randomly.

There's a couple of you guys who are like pros, but you know, it's just

one of the things, like, and this is sort of stealing from my talk tomorrow morning before we roll, is that you know, that documentary, those videos, these stories,

well, we're 75, yeah, 80, and we're sitting on each respective porch going, like, you know what, we've had some fun, have it, have footage of it, and have that smirk of just, yeah,

we did that.

And the stories and the experiences with that, that's what I want.

Yeah.

With that.

And just always knowing, yeah, you want to see this kids?

It's what your dad did, or this is what your grandfather did.

And just then seeing the camaraderie, seeing the support, seeing the outpouring of like helping each other across the country and getting that, I think that's enlightenment.

Yeah, I agree.

So one thing is, is that Maggie getting lost a little bit is that we're doing this in 14 days.

It's a pretty aggressive amount of time to do this.

You know, there's a lot of people who get across like, you know, the fastest people on a bike, an individual can get across.

They barely sleep maybe for two hours a night.

They get across in six or seven days.

That's the world.

But that's crazy.

You know, that's like, that's like, well, not crazy.

We're, you know,

everyone's version of crazy is different.

Right.

But we're still doing it in 14 days, you know, and that's an aggressive number.

It's not like we're just taking a backpack and saying, hey, I got two months to get across the country.

Yeah.

So it's like it is that there is that element that we have a lot to do tomorrow.

No, I know.

And that's what I said initially.

For 14 days.

How many hours are you expecting to be on?

Like not say, not folding you to it, but how many hours do you expect to be on the bike?

Eight to 10 hours a day on the bike, yeah.

And that won't be broken up.

Like it won't maybe be eight hours straight.

It might be three in the morning, three around lunchtime, and then another two in the evening, right?

No one's doing all 3,000 miles.

We're breaking it up into.

Oh, yeah.

No one's going to go all the way through.

That would be just like, we wouldn't make it.

It would take a while for us.

Right.

I thought people are.

I was under the impression that you were allowed to kind of not do it if you don't want to.

Right.

So I'm going in and out.

But you're going to go in and out.

Oh, you can do that.

Break it up.

I want to know what other things are on your bucket list besides the ultra marathon, this riding across the country from 14 days.

What other things, like what's next year?

Well, I've crossed a couple of them off.

I know.

So one was to write a book.

One was to have a song in the movie, which I did.

One was to ride my bike.

One was to get a black belt and crowd Magawa, which is a self-defense thing, which I haven't done.

Maybe next year.

It will take some time.

Yeah.

Take a little time.

Yeah, so I mean, I've been able to check a bunch of them off.

Ultra Marathon, I did.

Run 100 miles I did.

So,

yeah, Ultraman.

So, I don't know, you know, As you get older and you have kids, those things change a little bit.

But this is something I really wanted to do.

I really wanted to see the country on two wheels and again, have like it's like part endurance event, part vacation, part adventure.

So it's just hard to get all those things with one stone.

Totally.

And that's the thing with bucket lists, too.

I mean, they change as you get older.

Like the things that might have been on your bucket list when you're 25, 30 are going to be different when you're 55, 60, right?

And so that also, I believe, like for a guy like Jesse, it'll present itself.

It'll present itself what the next thing is where he's like, you know what?

That resonates.

Right.

What's that thing?

Muskogie?

No,

Musogi.

Musogi.

What is it, like the exact definition of that?

There really isn't one, but we've kind of reinvented it to just do one big thing, year-defined thing.

And this is it.

This is it.

All of you.

Yeah,

this is it.

Is there anything else we can, you know, talk about?

Does anyone else have anything?

Like, what would be on your bucket list that you will that you'd like to do?

Is this it?

The seven days thing that you did, is there anything else that you got to do?

Yeah, I got to do two in a matter of two months.

I got to return home to somewhat of a bad list.

What's on your day?

Like you said, something's just going to present itself, you know?

Just crazy adventures.

Adventures.

I just want to be ready in that.

You're going to come up with something.

Let's go.

My list.

What's relying on Jesse?

My name is

Jesse.

Jesse's new list.

That's why he was Alex.

Rick, Tim, Kevin, and I all did a cross-country hut-to-hut ski thing in Maine also.

That was crazy.

That was pretty.

You were on that trip, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, because I was getting them all confused with like Arizona, with

Colorado Springs.

Yeah, it was good.

So, yeah, we've done a bunch of stuff.

Yeah.

And if the Hawks win

tonight, it's looking pretty good.

Yeah, but the Hawks win, we're going to the game.

What is that?

Thursday?

Thursday night.

How does that happen?

You'll have your bike.

You have your bike.

Oh, we'll go to the game and then we'll fly back to where we left off.

Oh, excuse me.

You're right.

Okay.

So, yeah, okay.

Is there anything else to add to this very unique podcast episode?

You know what?

It was really fun because

it got everyone here a chance to kind of just

talk a little bit about each one of us.

So thank you.

No, this is great.

Thank you guys for doing this.

And I wish you guys all the luck, and you won't need it.

And have a lot of fun.

Thank you, Mark.

Thanks, Jeff.

Sure.

Do you have an extra bike?

Does Nate have an extra bike for me?

He can literally.

He's an extra bike.

I'm going to handle service.

I'll go on the handlebars.

Jen, you should meet us at the end.

No, you guys know what we're laying.

Exactly.

Where are you guys finishing?

The second half of this project.

Exactly.

That's actually a very good idea.

Where are you guys finishing the whole thing?

Oh, are you watching the game?

St.

Florida.

St.

Augustine, Florida.

Oh, wow.

Sorry.

Where are we finishing?

We're finishing in Florida.

No, no, no.

He just told me.

Yeah.

The answer was already given to me.

Thank you, Devil.

Keep on watching the game.

But

thanks for paying attention.

Thanks for being here.

I think we're good now, guys.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.