Episode 235: Bob Does Sports: How He Went From Four Seasons Doorman To Multi-Millionaire Content Creator

Hi, guys, it's Tony Robbins.

You're listening to Habits and Hustle, Gresham.

So, I have a real treat for any guy who's listening to this podcast because we have,

it's so funny, Robbie Berger.

First of all, I have to say, you remind me so much of like the anchor man Will Farrell, just the way you have like the names.

I know.

So, let me just say this: okay, so his name is Robbie Berger.

He's aka, otherwise known as Bob does sports

he's also brilliantly dumb right that's another one of your things right okay but he has like breezy golf he has like he's just kind of like the guy of the moment for sure with other for any guy who's 18 to 80 okay let's put that out there he's the guy people are obsessed with him full disclosure i know barely anything about this person normally i i do a lot of research and i am like i like have my notes and i have all these these questions that I want to ask.

And I think this one will be a little bit more of a free-for-all because of just the nature of like everything about you.

My husband thinks you're amazing.

My guy friends think you're great.

I think this is like, I'm just

super excited to have you on this.

I like the free-for-all style.

The free-for-all style might end up being better than not having, you know, than having it ready to go.

Maybe better that you don't know much about me.

That's why I don't want to know much

because like I feel like, I feel like just from the ether of what I hear about you, there's so many moving parts.

And like even when I tried to research you, it was literally impossible.

There's a lot going on.

There's a lot going on.

Like there's like every time I went on your Instagram, that was the Robbie Berger.

So that's, that's the brilliantly dumb side of things.

That was the brilliant.

Okay, so can you start from the beginning?

Who the hell are you?

It's a good start.

Exactly.

Good start.

Okay, yeah.

What's your name?

What's your name?

So my name is Robbie Berger.

Okay.

But the Instagram that I had been doing before, even Bob DeSports and all of that, was Brilliantly Dumb.

The way I got the Brilliantly Dumb name was, a lot of the comedy that I was doing was, I guess you could say, brilliantly dumb stuff.

Really stupid stuff.

Like, I guess you could say kind of like Seinfeld stuff, like everyday stuff that people all can relate to, but haven't like thought to really say it was kind of the angle that I tried to kind of hit.

So I'd been doing the Instagram for a while under Brilliantly Dumb.

Doing what on it?

Just like doing these little bits about that?

Yeah, so

yeah, a lot of like comedy bits, sports, like with my friends.

Like, you know, and I have quite the crew of friends that I'm sure we'll get into that, you know, it's like all this cast of characters as well.

So I was putting everything on there through that.

And then at the time,

there was no time where I could do it full-time.

Like, it wasn't big enough to do as like a full-time thing.

So I was working at the Four Seasons Hotel as a manager there.

You were a manager at Four Seasons?

Yeah.

So I started out as a front desk agent and then worked up to be a manager there.

So it was like living two completely different lives between four seasons wants you to be very buttoned up and like oh my gosh then on the side doing these ridiculous comedy videos so it was quite the mix and like trying to juggle all of that was really interesting so a lot of the comedy came from that so wait so you moved okay this is what i do know you're from new jersey yeah okay you moved here to be a comic a comedian Somewhat.

Is that what you did?

Yeah, that was the overall goal.

But my cousin was working in the hotel business and at the Peninsula Hotel.

Yes.

And I saw all the hands he was shaking and the people that he was meeting.

So in my mind, the best way for me to get into entertainment was to go shake all of those hands and get to know all of these people, hoping that I would meet a guest that would finally be like, you need to be in entertainment.

That was the goal.

Well, that's what a lot of people do when they move here, right?

Like a lot of people I know, actually a couple of my good friends, they would like basically have lunch every day at the Beverly Hills Hotel.

you know, to meet certain people and it worked out for them.

Like they actually ended up meeting like the right people.

Yeah.

And then like their a lot of their things that they were trying to like do, it actually worked because of that.

Beverly Hills Hotel is the home of like the $35 pancake.

100%.

Exactly.

Right.

It's true, though.

That was always my thing was you surround yourself with those people.

And for me, the best way that I knew how was to get into the hotels at the time.

And then the people that you meet from there.

Same thing now, like going into the golf world, something that I've noticed as well.

And I'm not a member at a country club yet.

I want to be, but like, if you could even find your way to get into a country club, like the people that you meet in that, whatever way you could kind of squeeze your way into something like that, obviously, you know, it's not easy.

I'm not one yet, but like just being in those situations, you never know what's going to come from that.

So hotels was the easiest route for me to get into that type of circle.

Totally.

By the way, that's why even like at Harvard and stuff like that, like people go to, not even like you want the education, but it's the alumni, right?

Like the people, once you're like involved in a certain certain social circle, that's how it's a conduit to all these other opportunities, right?

Yeah.

But wait, so your cousin was working at the peninsula?

Yeah.

So then why did you not get a job at the peninsula?

Why did you get a job at the four seasons?

It's a very good question, Jen.

Thank you.

That's why I get paid the big box season.

Yeah, clearly.

It would have been, he's tough.

He's a little bit different than me.

He's tough.

So he was the GM.

So he's the general manager there.

So it would have been, as much as I wanted to be the peninsula because of all the people that go to the peninsula, it would have been tough just in the standpoint of, God forbid, I screwed up or did something that I shouldn't have done if he would have had to be the one to fire me or whatnot.

it would have been tough so thankfully he used a couple connections that he had to get me into the four seasons and even just to get me in like I was working before the four seasons I was working at the Mandarin Oriental and I was just a doorman there and I was used even being a doorman just to kind of get my way in and thankfully when I came out he was able to get me into the front desk at the time and you know, at these hotels, it's like these people, a lot of these people, they stay with you for like a month.

So like you get to know these families and different people, celebrities, so many people, because they stay with you all the time.

So he helped me out.

But yeah, it would have been a little bit of a conflict of interest if I was over there.

Okay, so wait, I've got a million questions just on that.

So by the way, I had an old friend who worked there.

She was a head of PR.

Her name was Kim Kessler.

Did you ever meet her?

No.

Okay, she ran like four C's in PR for years.

So what year was this about when you were doing all that?

Had to be three years ago.

Oh, okay.

So that's actually when she left.

Three years ago?

About three years ago.

Yeah, she was there for like 10 years.

Yeah.

Who did you meet there that was the most influential that actually helped did anyone really help you that much like did you meet one person that impacted your career and who was it this one stings for me a little bit because he's had a rough stint the last few months but By far, the person who just handled himself the best day to day, would take the time out for you and just inspired me to just seeing how good he was to people.

And he knew he could affect us by doing the smallest things.

Will Smith was one of the nicest human beings I have ever come across.

And, you know, that whole thing happened at the Oscars and obviously people could say that.

And he was the nicest one of all?

Yeah, that's why it stung so bad when I see that because I knew it was, you know, obviously that could maybe, you know.

stain that a little bit but he was he stayed with us all the time and he just he looked you in the eye when he talked to you he would shake your hand and it just inspired me that like here's a guy who's so big and you have on the other side of it so many people who just won't even look at you and like they're so in their own world.

For a guy of his stature to do what he did and know everybody's name, that's one that always hit me so hard.

You know, it's so funny.

I had a guy on this pod.

Well, do you know Mark Manson?

Have you heard of him?

No, he wrote the book, The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck.

He also wrote the, yeah,

it was the most popular book of the decade.

Like, he sold like 20 million copies.

Anyway, he also wrote the Will Smith biography.

And I was asking him about this, like, just like a few weeks ago.

And he was like, it's really sad because he really was genuinely one of the nicest people in that level that I've ever met.

And then like this whole thing happens and it's ruined his entire career

or his reputation, right?

When that night happened, my dad actually came and woke me up.

after it happened because he had been watching it and he knew it was going to hit me hard and obviously i was so shocked when it happened because it's just it's so unlike with him but i just felt bad because you know what he really messed up and i think he'd be the first to tell you that but just knowing him the way that I did and seeing what he's done for me, it sucked for me.

And I'm pulling for him to, you know, get it back on track.

That is so, that's that's terrible when that happens.

Cause like, it's like, I can tell, I totally feel what you're saying, you know, especially if he was so nice to you.

At the same time, there's no, you can't deny that what he did, it just brutal.

It was off.

There's no denying it.

It's brutal.

Yeah.

There's no way around it.

You know, like you cannot.

That's what sucks.

You can't even like, you know, point your finger to this or that.

Like, he just, he messed up.

There's no other way.

I'll be on.

Have you watched watched the Chris Rock special that just came up?

Yes.

And boy, did he go in?

Oh, my God.

He went in hard.

And funnily, like, he, that was not even, I felt like that wasn't even a rehearsed bit.

Like, I felt like he was emotionally like talking off the

there was something behind that to where you could tell it's almost like it still

bothers him.

And yeah, look, he has a right to be upset.

But yeah, you could tell that the way he was delivering that,

it still hit him.

That was not a practice bit.

Like, I think part of it may have been like practice.

Totally agree.

Right.

And then he, when he started talking about it, he was just like, he, he got just as mad as he was back then.

Yeah.

And I was like, oh my God.

Because he also, again, not to go on a whole tangent, but for good reason, like, also, if you heard like the whole like evolution of Will Smith, like he, he went on that show and like his wife, like humiliated him.

Like she's like screwing around with the kid's friend.

It's like horrible.

Like what?

Like, I felt like there's been like a whole thing of events that he's done.

Yeah.

That that's why he just like lost it at that moment, you know?

It was it was

a guy.

I'll give you a quick Will Smith story.

When I was working at, it was a hotel in Miami where I met him.

And then another hotel that was opening up recorded.

But you were also at a hotel in Miami?

Yeah.

Oh, God.

Which one was that?

The Mandarin Oriental.

Oh, in Miami.

And then here, Four Seasons.

Yeah.

Well, the Faiena in Miami is a hotel that recruited me to go over there.

So when I was in Miami, I went over there to be a doorman over there.

The boss that I had at the time over there, I didn't want to leave the Mandarin Oriental, but I knew I should.

The boss that I had at the time over there, he was brutal to me.

I mean,

he was awful, and he really made my job tough, and I really regretted going over there.

Anyway, he was a big Will Smith fan, and Will Smith was going to check in that day to try out the new hotel in Miami.

Oh, wow.

So he's kind of all giddy throughout the day.

And I'm wondering to myself, I'm like...

If Will Smith comes out of the car and remembers me in front of my boss, who I can't stand, it would be the coolest thing.

So he pulls up and everybody's out to greet him.

All the executives, the the owner of the hotel, and there's my boss, and he's all giddy and wants to meet him.

I'm standing there with my welcome cocktails in my doorman outfit, and I look ridiculous.

I got towels and I'm just standing there.

And he pulls up, and I'm like, I don't think he's going to remember me.

He comes out, he sees me, he disregards all of the big executives with the suits that were there.

Comes up, I put down all the refreshment drinks, and he gives me a big hug right in front of the boss that I don't.

It was unbelievable.

So yeah, just to go to show you how much i like the guy the wonder i totally get why you like it hit deep it hit deep oh my gosh totally so then who was it someone you met that was like such a dick or like the worst person you met there's been different i had a football player that was pretty tough who would i know them yeah i mean look like tom brady or something like

look maybe he was having a bad day so i'll give him the benefit of the doubt all right but cam newton i i had an interaction with and really again something like that you always want to try and give them the benefit of the doubt that he's having a tough day so just a tough little interaction but you see it all at the hotel to where you just you just kind of keep it moving and then again just hope that it would you caught him at a bad time you know right but you see these people like a lot of these people like you said they stay for like months at a time why would will smith though be at a hotel like wouldn't he be at a house doesn't he have a house in miami doesn't he have a house like his whole song about miami like how does so or here when he was staying in miami he was filming bad boys too okay doesn't he have a house there for like today?

He can stay in the middle of the day.

You would think.

You would think.

It doesn't make sense.

And he would prefer that.

But yeah, he would stay with us.

So he was filming there.

A lot of times, too, you had the different actors or actresses as well that when they're filming a movie, they stay there for a little bit.

So I'm with you.

I would prefer to go to a house.

I mean, exactly.

I'm just like, that's just a logistical question.

But how about the wife?

Did you ever meet her?

Because she's the one I have a problem with.

Not even so much him.

It's her that was, I think, is

the one that is the instigator.

Did you ever meet her?

I did a couple of times.

All the times that I I met her, it was really brief and she was really nice.

So just for the times, but again, it was very brief, kind of just like an in-and-out, but like Will, we knew much more on a personal level because he had been with us for so long and would like spend time down there.

Right, be nice.

Okay, so but did anybody you meet while at these jobs help kind of ricochet or catap or put you in a position to get another position that helped you in your career?

Because like, obviously you're not doing that now, right?

So we gotta like, I want to to hear about the evolution of how this whole thing became now this but is there someone that helped you yeah there was there was a manager that I had at the time who he said to me and like you know I was taking the path of being in hotels he would watch all my videos on Instagram and stuff right where you're kind of getting more popular on Instagram yeah so it kind of got to a point where and I don't think the four seasons and I love the four seasons I don't think they necessarily liked it just in the sense of it got to a point where fans would be coming to the hotel and they knew that I worked there no so in a way it kind of became a distraction not to say that they were like lined up across but like over time like fans would come over and they would come take pictures and for if you're a guest and you know the employee there all of a sudden like people would be confused and then when i was a manager i had ballet in their car yeah they were very confused and then um i had about 50 employees under me when i was a manager because i ran all of guest services So the employees as well, it was weird for them to where they didn't really know what was going on.

And then it kind of caught on to where they're watching the videos that I'm doing.

So it kind of became tough to juggle both.

But that manager said to me, he's like, you know, you're not going to be doing hotels much longer.

There's something like, you're not going to be doing this much longer.

I was like, I agree, but I don't know when that time is over.

Oh my gosh.

Okay, so when what, like, what was the, you said three years ago that you were at four seasons?

Okay, so how long?

Like, so did you, when did you quit?

So I quit.

So, okay, so I had been at four seasons.

I would say I started five years ago and I quit three years ago.

You were there for two years?

Yeah, I was there for two years.

So not too long.

Okay.

And then, how long were you in the Miami ones for?

That was a while.

I dropped out of college.

Oh, you did?

Yeah, and did the hotels full-time.

Okay, how old are you now?

So now I just turned 30.

My God, you're like a baby.

Am I, though?

Because I kind of, when I hit the 30th birthday,

it stung on me.

Look what you've accomplished.

Yes.

And you're 30 years old.

Thank you.

I appreciate it.

Crazy.

It's pretty wild.

We haven't, by the way, we haven't even gotten into this.

Wait, wait.

For people who are listening, you have no idea what you're in for.

I swear.

Okay.

So, wait.

So then, so you only worked at the Four Seasons for like a couple of years.

Yeah.

Okay.

And you were starting posting on your Brilliantly Dumb.

Correct.

Okay.

And then, like, how many followers would you say you had around then?

I would say it got, like, before I left, I would say it probably got up to about 250,000, I I would say.

Okay.

But were you making any money?

Like do you have any brand deals at this point?

Or you just had a lot of people who thought you were like, like, you know, the engaged, like engaged audience?

Yeah, so I was.

Not enough at the time to leave my job.

Like there was hide money.

There was some brand deals coming in here and there.

But what I did for the podcast, and it really kind of ramped it up, and it might be a little bit ridiculous.

I was doing a podcast on the side too.

So I had Brilliant Dumb.

I did the podcast.

Okay.

Was it called Brilliantly Dumb?

The Brilliantly Dumb Show.

Okay.

And I created, in order to show sponsors, because whenever I would reach out to sponsors, I didn't have anything to show them of previous work that I've done with other sponsors.

So I created a fake sponsor on The Brill and the Dumb Show, and I read out ad reads as if they were sponsors on the show when they weren't.

Stop it.

Look, give me an example.

So, like Windex.

I had Windex for a full year, and Windex never paid me.

So I'd be like, The Brilliant Dumb Show is brought to you by Windex.

Whip it, wipe it, clean it, spray it.

I put Windex on everything.

And I did that so that I could show other sponsors that I had worked with Windex.

I I never worked with Windex.

So for a year, I was doing that.

Oh, my God.

I love you.

Are you serious?

Yeah, yeah.

So I did that.

And it's like a running joke now to where, like, even all my friends say that Windex sponsor, but it helped me for the Brilliant Um show, it helped me actually get sponsors moving forward.

Did Windex ever contact you?

No, I don't think they cared enough.

No, they don't care, but say, even to give you a real sponsorship.

No, it would have been nice.

Look, if I ever get a Windex sponsor, I would take it regardless of what it is, just because it's come full.

100%.

Why did you pick Wit just because it was just funny?

It is funny.

It was so ridiculous, and

it was the dumbest thing of all time.

It was brilliantly done.

That's exactly.

Yeah, it really was.

It was the dumbest thing of all time.

And I don't know why.

Like, you would think I did like anything else

with Windex.

But yeah, it actually helped when I would go to sponsor.

I'd be like, yeah, you know, we've had Windex.

So, like, I want you to get on board.

Windex is reaping the benefits.

So, like, yeah.

Oh, my.

And how many listeners did you even have at the time, like, on your podcast?

I would say that it was a, it averaged about like seven, 8,000 an episode, and it's grown.

But like, yeah, at the time, it wasn't a crazy amount.

So who was your actual sponsor?

Like, the first one you got?

Like,

because of the Windex?

The first one that I got was Yamaha.

Like, they're speakers.

So, like,

yeah.

Yeah.

I think they thought, you know what, Windex is so big.

We might, we might as well go.

Yeah.

So sorry, Yamaha, if you're watching.

That's a great tactic.

I know.

It's bizarre.

That's a great tactic for this podcast.

That is hustle.

Okay, first of all, so this, like, I was thinking, what am I going to, there's lots to talk with your business stuff, but that to me is like so smart.

And like, that is basically putting you in a position to win, I think.

Yeah.

And like, you're going to, you're creating your own, your own opportunities.

There was always

no pun intended.

There was always like a side hustle to it.

And like, I, I just, it was like, for me, it was like whatever it took to get out of doing hotels and get into that, I was going to do it.

I love that.

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

Okay.

So then, like, so then you're now still working there.

And then what, you said 250 or so thousand?

Yeah, at the time.

Okay, but you weren't making money yet.

Or you kind of, was Yamaha paying you yet or not yet?

You were.

It was all like one-off side deals here and there.

So nothing that was going to get me out of the hotels at the time.

So even when that manager said that to me, because they even had, had me on the overnight shifts as well, which was just running me down.

And

it was awful.

Like you go, you work from 11 to 7 in the morning.

You go back, you wake up at like 3 in the afternoon when everybody's finishing their days at 3.

And it was starting to wear on me.

So I was starting to get a little bit frustrated.

And he kept saying to me,

you are not going to be here much longer.

And, you know, he was right.

So what was your first job after the four seasons?

So I was always a big fan of barstool.

Barstool sports was always my dream to end up doing that.

I'm surprised you're not, well, now, I mean, we'll get to that, but you're not even there, which is, you are, everyone, by the way, just side note,

the couple people I was telling that kind of was like familiar, they're like, oh yeah, like he reminds me of like the new barstool.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It, uh, that was always, barstool was always my thing.

Yeah.

And it's pretty great.

So towards the end of the, my hotel career, Bart, this girl that I followed on barstool, I really like.

Her name was Liz Gonzalez, and she did a show and she ended up filming the show at the Four Seasons.

Okay.

So I had to take her up to the room that they were going to do it.

I had to escort her up and I I said, you know, I got this Instagram page.

I've been doing it, you know, for a little bit.

I'd love if you could take a look.

And I said to her, I really feel like I'm going to end up working for you guys one day.

And she couldn't have been nicer.

You could tell she like wasn't going to look at it.

She had a lot going on that day.

But what did she do at Barstool show?

She was a host.

She's not there anymore, but she did a host.

She was a host.

And she was one of the bigger names there.

She was really good.

So she had an athlete that she was doing the show with at the time.

And she said, yeah, like keep pushing.

Like, I'm sure one day it'll come or whatever.

She ends up leaving.

And a month later, I got a DM.

When I came back to my office, I got a DM from Dave Portnoy of Barstall Sports and,

you know, said, what's it going to take to get you to come work for me?

And then it just, it hit me.

I was like, wow, I'm not, here we go.

Like, it's time.

So what happened?

Why didn't you, what happened?

Why didn't you go?

He wanted me to.

So he actually himself DM'd you.

Yes.

That's hardcore.

Yes.

And that was always my dream, Jen.

Like that was where I wanted to go.

You asked any of my friends, like, that's where I was going to go was Barstall.

So when he messaged me, it was almost a no-brainer, but a company called Bro Bible reached out to me at the same time.

Horseneck Media is behind them.

They're called Bro Bible.

Who's buying them?

Horseneck Media is what they're called.

They're like a media company.

They have like a lot of blogs.

And it's called Horsak?

Horseneck Media.

Horseneck Media.

Okay.

And yeah, like Bro Bible is their main page.

And the thing with Barstool was Dave wanted me to, I just moved out.

I'd only been out in LA for two years then.

I had a one-bedroom apartment I really liked, and I had this crew of friends, Joey Cold Cuts, we mentioned like these, these ridiculous cast of characters that I was so close with and was helping me grow my channel.

And that, I mean, we were like, I had to have them to where he wanted me to then just move to New York on a salary that, look, I wasn't asking for a ton of money, but like for a salary that at that time, leaving to go to New York with how expensive everything is there, I would have had to get roommates and I would have had to change a lot of, you know, my life to go go over there.

How much did he offer you?

Don't remember what it was.

I think it was like 65,000.

That's it?

Yeah.

To go to New York?

That's a thing.

And it was, well, look, you know, the thing is, too, at the time, you're doing something for me why I would have been able to justify it.

It's something that I love to do.

So at the time, it's like, okay, if it's 65,000 living in New York, that's not ideal, but I'm doing something that I love to do to make it work.

This company, Bro Bible, offered me to where I could stay in LA and I could stay with my friends and they would kind of let me run wild.

Barstool wanted me to be in the office and stuff.

Yes.

So you have not, you don't have the same type of autonomy that you do.

Yes.

And it was one of the hardest decisions I've ever had to make because I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, I'm turning down my dream.

Like,

what am I doing?

And honestly, it ended up being the best thing I've ever done.

And no disrespect to Barstool, it's just having the freedom to kind of experience and explore what we were doing in that realm changed a lot.

So what did they allow you to do?

Bring on your gaggle of friends is basically.

Name your friend.

Okay, so go through these friends of yours, Joey Colcutz.

Who is Joey?

Who are these people?

So, Joey Colcutz was working at the Four Seasons, and he was the manager at the restaurant.

Okay, what was his real name, by the way?

Joseph DeMar.

It's a circus, Jen.

It's a total circus.

This is why people love it.

Okay, crazy.

Joey Colcutz was working with the, was the, was he like a manager, you said, at the restaurant?

Yeah, so he, he was the, uh he was the gm of the restaurant so like all these antics are going on at the hotel and meanwhile we're at the four seasons and you know we're like you have employees under you and whatnot so

it was it was crazy what you have um okay you have joey colt cuts you had a guy named maddie rigatoni who i knew from new growing up in new jersey italian guy and would maggie rigatoni is his name maddie rigatoni and what does he do what's what's part what what's his role in this group so he was like a union nine-to-five five hard worker but like we all connected through instagram like we would do videos together through instagram online zoom and all um and then like his name kind of we built him up how did you find him him i knew growing up but then there's a guy jersey jerry who's a total not understand jersey jerry yes i saw him on youtube with you who's this guy he ended up going to barstool after work so we started doing the brownly dumb show i brought him on to the brownly dumb show yeah and um right around the time dave offered me he also came back for Jersey Jerry as well.

No way.

And is he happy over there?

He's killing it.

Yeah.

He's doing really, really well.

We always wonder what could have been, but

he's dominating.

He's doing really well.

Wow.

So then, so he's not part of your real click anymore, then, right?

Not anymore.

Once he went to Barcelona, we still talk, but not in like the content.

And then there's a guy, I don't know if you've seen him, Fat Perez.

That was the guy, Fat Perez.

This is the one I love the most.

Fat Perez.

He's amazing.

Okay, Fat Perez makes me laugh.

So who is Fat Perez?

who by the way it's hysterical to watch this go down and just because it really is there's so many moving parts to it

that's why i'm so excited to have you and i didn't want to know any i didn't want someone to break it down for me properly because then the authenticity is not there i'm loving just watching you go through this is awesome it's so fun okay so fat perez is he like your right hand is he like your main guy or joey cold cuts the new cold cuts i knew longer so me and cold cuts really started brilliantly dumb together He was bringing, didn't start Brilliantly Dumb together, but he helped ramp Brilliantly Dumb up because he, you know, formed into this character.

So he wasn't like this before.

No, he was.

That's the thing.

All of these guys, which is the craziest thing, and I think why it works is exactly what you see.

I mean, you could even ask like Noah, he's met us.

It's all the exact thing.

And I think if we weren't, it wouldn't work.

But yeah, Colcuts is like this crazy Italian guy who's a character.

But the Joey Colcuts name, like we built up, and then Fat Perez came aboard aboard as well.

But Joe, to answer your question, Joe was with me, like at the four seasons.

Fat Perez came a couple years down the road.

Okay.

Oh, my gosh.

Okay.

So when you say, like, as a gaggle, like, is it kind of like the entourage crew?

Like, you have Turtle, you have, you know, the, the, the, whatever, what, Adrian Grenier, what's his name?

Vince Mitty, who also was on this podcast.

But, like, did you guys, do you guys all have a character and you guys all kind of entourage together?

Like, do you guys do everything together?

Like, build it together?

Like, who does what?

Like, are you the visionary is this one the marketing like tell me what people do.

Yeah, it's a good question each of us we all feed off each other to where each guy brings a different part to it like for example fat Perez is the wild party guy yet at the same time and we have the golf show He's an unbelievable golfer and so he actually can golf he's Jenny's unbelievable and with all due respect to fat Perez and he would wear it.

He doesn't look like a guy who you would think would be an unbelievable golfer and he's incredible.

Is he very overweight still?

He's

yeah, yeah,

no, I mean, look, his name is Fat Brown.

He owns it.

I mean, he takes it on the kitchen.

Yes, yes, to answer your question, yes, he'll be the first to tell you.

Okay.

And again, he's like this enigma who you watch him.

He's an unbelievable golfer.

Joe brings a little bit of a difference where he's kind of like a crazy off-the-rails kind of lunatic to where like he's got a really rough temper and he could just go off at any moment.

And then you have me who I guess kind of like keeps it all afloat and I'm more of like the positive, like keeping it all together in a way.

So like each guy, it all kind of revolves around each other.

And then again, the beautiful thing is that everybody is exactly what you see on it.

So we don't have to like, we don't have to act.

It's all the same thing.

It's unbelievable.

So then, so what do you guys do as a group then?

Like, how did you guys grow?

So you have this brilliantly dumb and you're doing bits

on Instagram.

Yeah.

Okay.

Are you on TikTok too?

I would imagine you would.

Okay.

And then how does it then like kind of butterflier like snowball?

Like how do you kind of grow?

Because you have this golf, you have like then what?

Yeah, so during COVID, so I was always doing like the comedy bits.

Like I wasn't even really playing a lot of golf.

The reason.

Do you know how to play golf?

I do.

I'm not great, but during COVID, me and Joe started playing golf because Joe had been playing, Joey Colcuts had been playing golf for a while.

And I'm like, all right, I kind of want to get into it.

So we'd go out on the golf course and we would post these golf videos

right around COVID is when golf started to pop off so we noticed whenever I would put out a golf video the numbers that it would do yeah would do three times the numbers as I would do with a lot of the other stuff that we were doing right right right so I was like all right like I got to start playing golf a lot more so I started playing more we started putting out golf content and then from there we started Bob does sports okay so right so then how so then because of the golf success yeah you're like okay we're gonna do like is it like a separate handle Bob does sports or it's a separate company like what is it Yeah, so it's a company called Doing Things Media who has a really big platform.

Right, and they own Overheard LA.

Correct, yeah, right?

Yeah, that's exactly right.

So they're kind of all over and they have, don't they own, like, they, they're buying a lot of meme, like a meme.

Yes, they have meme pages.

They have like pages that you wouldn't even know that is theirs.

They, they're behind.

So they can build these shows up pretty fast.

Okay, wait.

So when then what happened to your deal with the Bro Bible guys?

Are you still with them?

No.

So at the with Bro Bible, it just, it came to a point where I wanted to go on my own

and end up doing my own thing.

Okay.

I felt like it was at the point where like we definitely could.

What did they do for you though?

Like what you said they gave you autonomy of what though?

Yeah, they were really good to me.

They brought different deals my way.

They funded a lot of what we were doing.

Oh, but it did come to the point like they helped start my Patreon and whatnot.

And as great as they were and all that.

Doing what on Patreon?

So we would do these happy hours during COVID.

We would do Zoom happy hours because we needed to find a way to bring more money into the channel.

So for the people that listen to the Brilliant Dump Show, we did an extra podcast a week where we would put it behind the paywall of Patreon and then we would do these happy hours.

And that's how we met Fat Perez.

That's how you met Fat Perez?

Through those happy hours.

Okay, so this Patreon is what my friend Brett was telling me.

Yeah.

He was one of the first to like speak.

That was amazing when you told me that, by the way.

All right.

That's OG.

That's OG, right?

That's what I'm saying.

Like, you would not be sitting in that chair if it wasn't for him.

I have to get this.

Shout out, Brett.

There you go.

Shout him him out.

Okay, so let me understand this.

So here you're like, okay, we're going to go on Patreon and then you're charging people how much to do this?

So at the time, there was different tiers.

Okay.

So there was a $20 tier, $9 tier, and $5.

What did he get for $5 and $9?

$5 tier was the extra podcast.

$9 is you would get the happy hour as well.

$20, you would get all of that and then be an executive producer on the show, which is more of like, and we let them know, it's more of like a support thing.

Like what's crazy on Patreon, and I found it wild, like people will pay extra just to support you.

And like with our audience,

it was so loyal that there would be more $20 members than you would probably think.

How many were there?

I don't know an exact number, but it got to the point where it was pretty big.

So like these Zoom happy hours that we would do, and we would, we would go all out in them.

We would run the podcast on there, but we'd get hammered on there.

Like we would really let it rip and give people like a behind the scenes of all of that.

I mean, there would be times where there was over hundred people in one in one happy hour and like you know you start to recognize the faces on there and we would run the show are you serious on there yeah so you had a happy hour like so what you guys weren't just all like drinking on hammered yeah we were hammered on patreon with the people that paid to be so does that mean that they're like does that mean like bread or whoever else was like drinking on zoom with you yeah so that's even like with bread the way we found perez was we were on one of these happy hours and you're on zoom so i could i would control the zoom and i could see everybody up there and i see a guy in his cubicle with the name you know how it has like the name yeah yeah it says fat perez he's in his cubicle so he's clearly working and he's chugging beers jen like inhaling beers and he's eating pizza and i'm like who the hell is this guy so i i brought him on and like he crushed it to where a lot of the names that came up came from those happy hours or like it became like this die hard loyal following that translated and really helped kind of kick it off but i can't even believe i'm listening to this it's insane the whole thing

do you have one female who follows you guys i i i wish

yeah i do want to up the the female audience for sure what's your demo

it's 90 i actually saw it the other day it's 94 male which i would like like look it's great because they support us with the golf and whatnot would i like more females on there for sure but it's unbelievable and like the fact is it's like across the board.

It's from like 18 or 15 to like 100.

Like, literally, what is the demo?

Like, when you saw it.

I'd say the main demo is like 24 to 30.

But then again, like we were talking even before the show, we have people that are, you know, I do cameos.

So like I hit cameos for guys that are 45, 60.

Like my dad's friends love the shows.

So I think what helps us a lot is we really do hit all demographics, you know?

And like, do you have like, how about socioeconomic?

Is it like people who are educated, who are professional, who are, like, what is your demo that way?

The big thing which we've noticed that's really helped is the golf world and the golf demographic tends to have a lot of money to spend.

Yeah.

So like the demographics, it's higher and like they can afford, like, you know, when we come out with golf polos and stuff like that.

Don't say that yet.

I want, okay, I should have asked you that Alex.

No, no, no.

But yeah, but basically they, that demographic we've known really, really does help.

And of course, we'll take anybody, you know, that we can get, but that's something that we've known that golf world and that golf demographic helps so much, and it pays to really have that golf audience.

Well, that's okay.

So then you said that what happened was, okay, so I was like getting excited and getting ahead of myself.

But when you were with the other people, they were helping you with the Patreon and all that stuff.

So like, okay, so then you have this Patreon, all these different levels, and then you decide to leave the Bro Bible people.

Were you guys making enough money with Patreon?

So it was that, the Patreon's really what helped it, where I was like, I don't necessarily need Bro Bible to do this Patreon.

But at the time, and there's like another wrinkle into it, I got an offer from a company who wanted to just have the podcast where I could own the Patreon.

I could have all of my stuff to the side and they would solely just have me for the podcast and can help ramp me up for the podcast.

What company is that?

It's a company called Action Park Media.

Action Park Media.

Okay.

Yeah.

And unfortunately, when I got over there and they were willing to bring Jersey Jerry over and have him do that as well, so it meant a lot to me.

But when we got there, we realized pretty fast that it was not for us and it just wasn't what we had agreed upon.

And it was the toughest thing I've ever had to do because I knew once I left there, I would lose Jersey Jerry because I didn't have the money to afford him.

All I had was the Patreon on the side.

Right.

So I would lose the regular salary that I was getting from Action Park Media.

I knew I was going to lose that.

And then the only income I had was Patreon.

And my editor as well, I knew I was going to lose him because I didn't have the money to afford him.

Right.

But with that being said, I knew I had to get out of there and I knew I had to leave.

So that was one of the toughest days I think I've ever had is when I, when I leave, when I left and just knowing that, A, that I had to leave, but there's a chance that I lose Jersey Jerry and my editor, who was really my right-hand man because I didn't have money to pay him at the time.

So what happened then?

So you were now, but by the way, at this point, you didn't have the Bob Does Sports.

No, no.

This was just brilliantly done.

Correct.

Correct.

Okay.

So then how did you, what did you do?

So I called the jet and I told him.

So right after Jersey Jerry left, we left Action Park Media, Dave comes, Dave Portnoy comes and snags Jersey Jerry right away.

Okay.

So Jerry's gone.

Gone back.

Which is brutal because he was such a crucial part to the show.

So I lose Jerry right away.

Oh, he's gone.

And I don't blame him because I didn't have money to pay him.

I wish I did.

Did he try to get you again, Dave Portnoy?

No, not at that time.

I think once with Dave, once I said no the first time, that was kind of it.

Okay.

Jerry came back for him and Jerry was gone, which was a huge, huge blow for me.

And then I remember calling my editor, the jet, and I was like, look, this is the situation.

Like, I need you bad.

Yeah, we call him the jet because he's so fast with clips.

Everybody's got a nickname.

Yeah, it's really.

But yeah, so I called him and I said, look, I don't have the money to pay you.

I promise this thing is going to pop off.

And when it does, I will do right by you.

And whatever I got to do.

Thank God for him because when I called him and did that, not only did, you know, a lot of people in that situation, when they stopped then getting paid, they would slow down on their work.

The Jet believed, he believed in it so much that he ramped up the clips he was doing.

He turned it, he kicked it into another gear.

Really?

And then once he did that, he's like, I'm going to fly out to LA and I'm going to stay with you and we're going to take this thing and really go all out.

So he came out with no money, nothing, wasn't being paid.

He was working for me for free.

And then that's amazing.

Yeah, it really is.

Oh, man.

I'm so thankful for him because because I really did need him.

And so he's so good at what he does.

But for him to take that chance, come out to LA when he's working for free.

And he just, he trusted me that I was going to, A, that the show would pop.

And B, he knew that I would do right by him.

So I'm forever loyal to him.

That's amazing.

And then how did it happen for you?

Then what happened?

So then, so then I, there's a company that Doing Things Media Company I reached out to because I had been wanting to do something with them.

I knew the platform that they had.

So you knew of them already.

Yeah, but we could never work together because I always had deals with Bro Bible or Acting Park Media to where it never worked.

There was nothing we could have done.

So I finally called them and told them, look,

I'd love to do something with you.

What year were we talking?

Like, give me the chronological,

a little over a year.

So this is only a year ago.

Yeah.

So Bob DeSports, a lot of people don't realize that Bob DeSports has only been going for, we started of September of last year.

So

a year, year and a half.

That is it?

It's crazy.

Yeah, it's crazy.

I'm glad I got you now because you're going to be so big in like four years you're never gonna regardless you won't you would have never you wouldn't even answer my text message in two years no dude that ain't true i wouldn't say i'd be here for you oh my god you but by the way i can see why people like you you are so likable you are so likable thanks like your energy is so lovely appreciate it no it's good and your smile and your it's like the cadence in your voice like now i'll definitely come back you better come back no i'm hooked i'm in i'm in you're in i'm in thanks okay good because i you have a very nice way about you Thank you.

So then, how did you kind of like, then what happens?

You call doing things media.

Yeah.

They owned, but they owned like, okay, so they own like the overheard LAs and all those.

Also, they own.

They have all these accounts.

They started a show called All Gas, No Breaks, which was huge.

Do they have a dating one too?

They probably do

recess therapy is another one that they have.

Oh, that was that.

That was really, really big.

And then again, they have all these Instagram accounts.

It's an account like Shithead Steve.

Yeah.

Drunk People Doing Things.

They have all these accounts.

Yeah, it's

crazy.

Yeah.

That's literally the name of the account.

It has like millions

of followers.

There's another one that's similar.

It's not shithead Steve's.

It's another one that sounds, it's like,

they have so many.

It's insane.

But yeah, and they had the ability to really blow up the show.

So they funded the show, put everything into the show.

Okay.

In what way?

When you say they funded the show, tell people what that means, because I think that people don't understand that.

Like, are they giving you money for yeah, so travel to go originally what Pop De Sports was going to be, it wasn't even going to be a golf show.

It was going to be me going to different stadiums and these different games and kind of doing man on the street type interviews at like the Super Bowl and all these different events.

That's what I was going to, oh, okay.

That's originally what it was going to be.

And then what would your other friends do?

Like the cold cut guy and the

show, he was still working at Four Seasons at the time.

Until like a year ago?

Yeah, so Joe maybe just hit a year of being out of work.

Oh, my God.

Fat Perez maybe just hit six months of being out of work and he's popped off.

And it's pretty crazy, but they also then the biggest thing was got the jet paid, the editor, got the jet paid.

So, and then they would fund us to travel to all these different stadiums, produce the show, cameras, everything.

They funded all of that while also giving the platform to blow it up to really get it out there.

How did they do it?

Like, what did they do marketing-wise?

Did they pay for digital ad spend?

Like, did they put a budget towards it?

Yeah, so they're so good to where they, and they have such this big platform that they promote it on all of of their channels so they can really

all of these different channels that they have with millions of followers they would use to promote it and that's kind of cross-promote the stuff yeah all of it so that's kind of how they're able to to pull a lot of it off and they would they would be promoting the brilliantly dumb and the bot bob does sports or what would they be doing brilliantly dumb was separate and that was something that i could do on the side right okay bob does sports was what they so what we started together yeah what they were investing into Okay.

So only Bob does sports.

Correct.

Okay.

Yeah.

Only Bob does sports.

Have a day, the hat that you're wearing and that I've wore and it's over there.

Yeah.

Is that only a Bob does sports thing or is that a Robbie Burger thing?

Bob does sports thing.

It's a Bob does sports thing.

Yeah, okay.

So they have taken it to another.

So, and when we started then doing a lot of the golf stuff on Bob Does Sports, that's when we realized, same thing with my videos prior, like this is what's hitting.

The golf stuff is not hitting.

So we kind of just pivoted to doing just a golf show.

So even though it's Bob Does Sports, it's only golf.

Yes.

And it always will be.

We'll throw other stuff in there, but we almost kind of find it funny that, like, it's Bob does sports, but all we play is golf.

And I heard, okay, we'll get to that.

I don't want to, I get myself so excited here.

I'm not going to even do that.

Okay.

So here he is.

Okay.

Bob does sports, the golf thing.

Now they're funding you to do all these things.

Yeah.

Then what happens?

So they're funding to do to do everything.

And it gets to a point where we start doing the golf content that Joey Cold Cuts was literally, he would come and he would he would film with us in the morning for the golf and then he would at the golf course put on a suit so at that time then he changed over to wolfgang puck and he was the general manager of wolfgang puck's restaurant called cut in beverly hills no yeah so so this guy is going and filming these ridiculous videos like we're doing all these ridiculous different videos and then he would put on a suit and he would go work for wolfgang puck and like he caught it even more than me as far as it being kind of a conflict of interest because wolfgang puck it's a Michelin star restaurant.

He's in charge of the restaurant.

And he's, you know, people are coming in asking for Joey Cold Cuts.

I can't even believe this.

It was crazy.

So the show was popping off while he was still working for Wolfgang Tuck.

And so he's working.

People are recognizing him.

Like, it's getting big.

Did people talk,

when you guys were doing your stuff

together, did he mention that he also works at Cut?

Okay.

Yeah.

It just kind of had to come up because so much of what we did, like,

even when he would come to the golf course, he'd be in a three-piece suit, like before he went to work.

It was the whole thing was bizarre.

But then doing things, the show was getting big enough to where I was like, look,

I'd love to have Joe on full time.

He's a huge part of the show.

And they didn't even hesitate.

And like they, right out of the gate, they're like, all right, like, we're going to set up a, we got a salary for him.

And he was a little worried at the time because even to call and tell his parents, and his parents are awesome and they're like very old school that like it's new to them.

They haven't really heard of, you know, the social media thing.

so that was it was tough for him but it was right out of the gate and then it just you know he came on full time and anything that with doing things anything that i suggested they took my word for it and they were willing to back with dollars and just their full support on it and like their advice and guidance to where they've been so crucial to helping it all explode and they've never they've never said no they've really trusted me and in decisions that I've wanted to make and I just have such a good relationship with them that it's amazing.

So where did

a breezy golf come?

That's the golf tournament, and you're doing it all over the country, right?

Yeah, okay, so whose idea was that?

Was that your idea?

So, that was something that we always wanted to do, and I had mentioned to them, but they were the ones who were able to get the pieces to do one of these golf tournaments.

As you know, your husband's the one who does it for us.

No, he's been awesome.

They were able to go and get like Noah to help us execute it because, like, we wouldn't have known what we were doing to where like doing things differently.

No, of course.

I mean, it's like a whole, that's like a whole thing.

It's a whole thing.

So, you had the idea, let's do a golf tournament and then doing things was like, oh, I have the right, I have the perfect person for you, so to speak.

Yeah, it was something that we had talked about for a bit and then they had the perfect people and pieces in place to do it.

But then also too, they have like a sales team that like you have to sell.

Like Corona sponsors a lot of the Breezy tournaments.

So they go out and they have their sales teams go and do that.

And again, it's something that if I tried to do it on my own, there's no way I would have been able to do that.

So these sponsors, like the Corona, Celsius, I heard you have like a massive Callaway deal.

Yeah.

Is that true?

Callaway as well.

Is that your deal?

Is it Bob does sports deal?

Is it like whose deal is this?

Is this a breezy golf deal?

So yeah, it's a good question.

It's interesting how it works because now we all have our personal pages that are big and very golf oriented.

So because you have your page, hey, like we've got Robbie Berger, brilliantly dumb.

Yeah.

Breezy Golf.

Breezy Golf.

Bob does sports.

You have Joey Cold Cutt's personal page.

Right.

All those guys.

All of that.

So it all kind of works in and all falls under the same umbrella to where when deals come in, we're able to do X amount of posts and whatnot for our personal channels.

Callaway gets a certain amount for the personal channels, and then also for Bob DeSports.

And then the Bob DeSports team does a really good job, which is doing things of kind of funneling that all in and making all of that work, putting the pieces in place to where they're able to go out and

get these deals for us.

So like the Callaway deal is not just with you, it's with Cold Cuts, Fat Perez,

all you guys.

Yeah.

And so you get like a, you get like a lump sum of money and then it has to be dispersed amongst all of you.

Yeah.

So you yourself don't have like a deal, like you're not the Callaway guy.

Like I feel, are you guys all like a team in terms of like, or, or is there anything where it's just now you yourself as well?

Yeah.

So like me and Doing Things Media started the show together.

So we have certain ownership in the show.

Yeah.

But yeah, it all funnels throughout everybody.

So I think the coolest thing for me seeing between Joe and Fat Perez when they left their job and even the Jed, our editor, of course, naturally, they were worried.

I mean, Joe had a good salary at Wolfgang, and so did Perez and these guys.

They were a little worried.

It's like, we're going to go do this.

Like, I don't know if I necessarily can go back to that after to watch them reap the benefits from it and see how great and see the money that they're making now.

to me is the most rewarding.

It's literally the coolest thing.

Okay, so I have to ask you, and you could be like kind of cagey if if you want, but like how much money are you guys making around?

You could be like kind of, you can give me like a range.

You don't have to be like, exactly, $1.7 million.

Like, what's the kind of money you're making now?

It's, I'll tell you this, it's more than I could have ever imagined.

Are we talking nine figures, seven figures?

What are we talking?

It depends.

I would say

it varies.

I think as the years go on, it's definitely gone higher and higher to where I think.

All the years, it's been like two years.

Yeah, I know.

Yeah, I know.

You're right.

One a year where what kind of car are you driving now where are you living now you don't have to give me the exact address like how have you how has your life changed yeah from like literally like two years ago to be honest with you jen like so i have a car that i that i like my parents passed down to me it's a it's a lexus it's one of the older lexuses but i like it and you know what it gets me for me to be i'm not a big car guy so i don't need a crazy car i love that um good for you pretty simple the the only thing that i really like spending my money on and i'm not a big fashion guy as you could probably no i think you look adorable

Yeah, you look like you're like a golfer, actually.

There you go.

Yeah, I like your shoes, although, you know, clean.

They're not, no, they're great.

I was gonna say, like, you should get a shoe sponsor now.

That'd be nice.

Yeah, I like where your head's at.

I like where your head's at a lot.

Of course.

That's what I do there.

Yeah.

But it's all

simple.

Food.

I love food.

I love going out to dinner.

So I love spending my money on going out to dinner.

You're mad after my own heart.

Okay.

So, what's your favorite restaurant?

There's a restaurant in Hollywood called Rayo's.

It's an Italian restaurant.

Of course, right?

They have like a whole sauce.

It's a very popular place.

Oh, I love it.

Do you do the sauce?

Do you buy the sauce in the grocery store?

They're the best.

Do you not buy the sauce?

You must buy the sauce.

I buy the sauce.

The problem is I don't cook much often.

I spend all my money.

Yeah,

I'm single to where

I was going to ask you.

So you're single.

So this is interesting because here you are, you're popping off.

But for guys, do girls even know who you are?

It's again, I would love the girl demographic to go up for sure.

But like even so, like you're like, if you, if you're walking down the street, guys would be like, oh my god, I love him.

He's great.

But would a girl even have a clue of who you are?

Once besides me now, I guess.

I would say once Bob does sports started, yes.

Brilliantly dumb, not as much.

Once Bob does sports, we've noticed that the female audience definitely did grow.

A lot of it is girlfriends of guys that get cameos from me or whatnot that they see, so they follow along, but definitely more so over the last year.

Cameo is a big thing for me, too, as well, to work their girlfriends buy

cameos from me, which is a big thing.

How many cameos are you doing a week?

I do about 25 to 30 cameos a day.

So I was.

Are you serious?

Yeah, yeah.

I don't, yeah.

So there was a few times where I was number one on cameo to where I make a big thing out of cameo of like people coming in.

So I'd been leading cameo for a while to where.

Hold on a minute.

I got to take through the math.

How much much you charge for a cameo?

So it's $95 a cameo, but 95 times 30, okay,

a day.

So you're making just three grand a day about just on these little cameos.

Well, so the thing is, that's the $95 one, but

there's a thing where if, like, say you forgot about your boyfriend's birthday or whatever, there's a 24-hour request to where I have to get back to you in 24 hours.

So that's 95 plus.

So that's 150%.

So 95 plus,

it ends up up being like 150, around 150 for what they charge for that.

So not every cameo is 95.

Some of them are

150, yeah.

So wait, how, like, so, because you can make your own prices on cameo, because,

and then what's the, is that cheap for cameo?

I feel like it is.

It is.

Everybody tells me to go up, but you know what?

I don't mind doing them.

It takes me a little bit to do them, like the, because it's a lot per day.

But

a lot.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's pretty, though, it's pretty crazy.

So cameos, cameo is a big thing for me to where I fire on that a lot.

You know what's funny?

so i should really give you 95 because i asked you to do a cameo type for my friend

that's a that's a full comp for me you're having me on

me that's a full comp thank you i appreciate that so wait a second so just on that alone you're making that kind of like you're making a lot of money do your friends fat perez cold cut joe joey cold cuts well are they doing that many a day also with cameo no but they don't push it as much you push it a lot i i do like i make a big thing out of it to where like i think they could you know like fat perez gets cameos all the time a lot of times he just like i don't know like it's not necessarily he doesn't really like enjoy doing it too much to where i think he could but they don't they don't push it as much as i would okay so then do you have your own manager or do you have an agent yeah you do who's your manager who's your agent so uh my manager is a guy named cameron cattison who where's he at the time he um he has his own company he has like his own management company mortar la media no mortar la but he was a friend of my cousins who works at the hotel.

So when he originally, when Dave Portnoy came to me,

when Dave Portnoy came to me, he was kind of doing it for me as a favor.

And, you know, he's kind of like family to where we're very close to him.

But he has all these big clients to wear.

He wasn't making any money off me.

It wasn't.

But then as time.

grew now it's it's a different ball game to where like and he's been with me from day one right um but yeah they answered

like as much as like two years ago day one yeah Yeah.

That's exactly right.

Yeah.

Day one started in like 2020.

Exactly.

That's exactly right.

Exactly.

Right around COVID.

Yeah, hilarious.

Okay, who's your agent then?

So I actually, I just recently have been looking into possibly doing agent.

So I don't have an agent as of right now.

So right now it's just manager, lawyer, and then a business manager, which is who's been awesome.

And I never knew that I would like need something like that, but that's something to me that was the most eye-opening thing for me of every, of anything.

So then how much when someone comes to you for a sponsorship deal, like what is your range now?

Of Windex.

I know Windex was free.

Yeah, Windex.

Yeah, full comp.

Just like your camping.

Just like my campus.

Exactly right.

Exactly.

So if I was a company, how much would I have to have approximately to get you on board?

It depends because with...

It depends on the deliverables.

Yeah.

What we've done, so a lot of like prior, it was, I would do like a lot of one-offs, like one post per Instagram, like one post.

And that ended up getting to like $20,000 for a post.

But now what we've tried to do, which I've really preferred more, is we've had companies where we do like a year-long deal.

And we find that both the company gets more out of it.

We enjoy doing it more.

We get more out of it as well.

Yeah.

To where we've done that.

And then there's been deals too, where like I've have certain equity in different companies.

And that's something that I love doing now is.

Somewhat smaller companies are on the come up, being able to get equity into it and really feel like you're a part of it

has been huge.

Which ones are you involved with?

So the one big one was Prize Picks, which is like a gambling style company.

Marstool-esque.

You're doing the whole

following in their footsteps.

You're picking up what I'm putting down.

I've picked it up a long time ago.

Yeah, exactly.

You really are.

I'm like kind of following your vibe.

Okay, so you got your finger on the pulse.

I do have my finger on the pulse.

So that's, okay, so by the way, does that mean that David Portnoy, Dave Portnoy, after you said he didn't come back to you when he came back for Jimmy,

what's his name?

Jimmy Jersey Jerry.

Jersey Jerry or whatever.

Has he come back to you recently again since now you're at another level?

Or he just is not even bothering you?

No, he hasn't bothered.

I think at the same time, too, I think he kind of, again.

He sold most of it, I think, at this point.

Yeah, I mean, he's at a point now, too, where he's so well off to where, like.

He's not looking at you guys like that.

Yeah, I think he kind of, I don't even know if he does.

I mean, he probably does somewhat of the hiring, but like, he's made his mark to where, like, I think he's very happy to where he's at.

And then at the same time, too, with Bob Desports, it's it's kind of like my, it's my thing now.

Like it's my baby, like it's my company.

So it wouldn't really make sense for me to go over to a different, you know, company.

But who, but like if like strategically, right?

Like you would think sometimes they would want to do like a merger.

Cause I think, I mean, this is my opinion.

I think that you're going to grow to be like that level.

Like you're going to be the new barstool for sure.

Like this is now that I met you, I I totally get it I get it like especially with the whole cast of characters you can have like so many brand extensions, you know like yes, you're doing the the golf right now, but I can see once that like hits and you're doing all that then you can start like rolling out so many other things,

you know you see me smiling ear to year

because because you know you know what I'm saying is true.

I you're doing it.

Yeah, I definitely

I really do.

I feel that.

I really do.

I think what we do is it's definitely different.

And I think it's definitely unique.

But at the same time, too, and we were talking about it prior, every one of the guys and myself included, it's still so surreal to us.

And I don't think we're ever going to lose that.

And all the guys really stay very humble about it.

And like, I don't think I'll ever get tired of meeting fans or stuff like that.

Like, we legitimately love what we're doing to where it didn't matter how much we're getting paid.

And I really mean that.

And I think with that being said, it'll just help us.

And that's what's helped us grow and grow and grow.

That I think, and I hope that people see that we're just having so much fun.

And a lot of it, we don't even know we were winging it, you know, from the start and just throwing stuff on the wall and seeing what worked.

And yeah, it's cool.

Like, even with this breezy golf thing, right?

So now you're doing what?

How many cities are you like?

It's like, is it a joke of a golf tournament or is it a real golf tour?

I still don't even know.

Is it a spoof?

It's no.

Is it like a caddy shack?

I feel like it's very caddy shack-esque.

Yeah, so like it's like a golf tournament, but it's not, it, it's not like crazy competitive.

It's much more people coming to have a good time with the fan base and all of us.

Like who gets invited?

Can I go?

Can anyone go?

So it's tickets get sold out.

So it's a ticket sell of people that can come.

So how many people?

Give me an example.

Give me an example.

So for example, we had the first one we did and we didn't know, we had no idea how it was going to work.

We didn't know if it'll do well or not.

We really didn't know.

It was $750 a person and the total amount of people I want to say was $144.

And we had no idea.

And look, we totally understood that that's, that's high.

Like, it's not easy for people to spend $750, not including the airfare that they got to get, hotels, all that.

Where was the first one?

First one was in Miami.

Yeah, Miami.

So I was really, really, I was really worried about that.

And like, again, just at that price point and doing things media really said, they're like, look.

For everything in the way that the tournament's going to run, they're like, we promise you, people are going to get their money's worth.

And Noah, with what he was able to do, they're like, people are going to get their money's worth.

Mark our words on it.

And I took their word for it we sold it sold out in 20 minutes that's what I heard 16 minutes I heard yeah but 16 sounds better than 20 yeah so and why are you rounding up yeah no no no you need to like learn your PR mode like what are you doing it was 16 minutes it was 16 minutes yeah it could have been 15 that's very maybe could have been I mean listen that's very justin bieber-esque like that's like selling out like a Justin Bieber concert sold out in like four minutes I think it was crazy but like you're selling out I mean yeah granted not as many tickets yes just a little different a little different but still, like, that still says something.

It's crazy.

And then the craziest thing, the most rewarding thing was: okay, even after you sell out the tickets, I'm still worried because I'm like, are these people that are spending their money and a lot of them that save up just to be able to do this?

Are they going to get the most out of it?

And when we did the Miami one, from the time we did the run-through, we did the walkthrough,

I was like, okay, I get it.

Like, really?

Open bar, food, sponsored by Corona.

There's drinks everywhere that you go.

Does everyone just trash the whole thing?

It is a fucking blast.

And yes, people are by the time you're done with it, because mind you, the golf is four hours, a little over four hours.

There's an award ceremony.

People win awards and different drivers and clubs.

It was the most rewarding thing I think I've ever done to see all of that come together and all the nerves that were brought into it.

And yeah, I went out after Denoa and gave him the biggest hug.

I said, thank you so much.

It was the coolest thing.

And so that's,

he was saying that it was very successful.

It was unbelievable.

And you guys are doing all how many more are coming up, though.

So, we're going to try and roll out as many as we possibly can.

We have one that we're announcing soon that's coming out in June, and we want to keep these things rolling.

So, with the breezy, it's crazy.

It's crazy.

It's the tournaments as well as the apparel.

So, we sell golf polos, sweatshirts, the one that I'm wearing now.

So, it's the apparel, and then like we call it breezy for the breezy tournaments of the day.

You like it?

Yeah, that's actually a breezy one.

It's a breezy one.

I like it.

You're good to me, Jen.

You're really good to me.

I'm going to get you a sweatshirt.

Thank you very much.

I'll wear it for sure.

A couple more hats and a sweatshirt.

Yes, like, so then the hat, those hats must be selling well.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Now, that hat is a not, that's not breezy.

That's a Bob hat.

Yeah, that's exactly right.

Bob does sports.

Bob does sports.

So then that is.

Okay, so how do you define?

Like, do you have a different percentage in Breezy than you do in like Bob does sports?

Yeah, so the Bob does sports.

Very complicated.

It is.

There's so many.

It's like

realize yeah there's so much as much of a dream as everything is there's so much that goes into it that's unbelievable you know what's funny before you even tell me about your deal structure is that normally when things are complicated and like too many pieces it like fails because like people get confused and they don't know what what's what yeah but for whatever reason it's not happening over here it's a credit to we we have the right people in place like the doing things media they they are we have such a good relationship with them and i think a lot of these these deals that you have a lot of them end up falling through like you said and there's so much that goes into it and with the guys they're so unselfish and everybody's so it's such a close-knit group that i think all of it although you have different hiccups and yeah total challenges it really really works that's a crazy that's amazing okay so then what's your percentages and all these not you know give me a

yeah so well with the with Bob DaSports, it was a 50-50 thing.

And then there's so much to get into like the breezy thing and the apparel and all of that, that there's so much to put in and doing things funded all of that to where for me with breezy is 20 of that of breezy yeah and how about the other guys cold cut fat perez do they own a piece of this so another great thing with doing things they want them to be a part of it so as do i that's a very meaningful thing for me to have those guys be into it and really be bought in their they're so bought in as is now but you know it's best for everybody involved myself included that if i give some of my percent they give some of their percent to those guys it helps everybody you want everybody so we're in talks now to get everybody a piece of it, which will be the happiest day of my life when that happens.

Oh my gosh.

Okay.

So then, how about the girl?

Let's get back to the girl situation.

You said, like, you don't have a huge girl demo, obviously, but girls are now because of the Bob Desports, blah, blah, blah.

So then you're not dating.

I thought you had a girlfriend.

I saw somewhere online that you had a girlfriend.

I saw that online too.

It's amazing that that's online by the way.

Can you believe it?

I saw that recently, by the way.

That's what I saw too.

And they put like what, like when we split, and that was wild.

Because you're like famous now, it's crazy.

That was nuts.

See, I feel like, yes, you're so humiliating.

You have so much humility now, but I really hope you stay this way.

You say you're going to, but it doesn't happen very often.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, you see with a lot of people where it doesn't, but I'm confident that it.

You're confident it's going to stay.

That it will.

Yeah.

Yeah, I am.

Okay.

I don't see it ever changing.

Because I think once you lose that, you're done.

You're toast.

Yeah.

Because part, I'm telling you, your likability is your humility.

Like, this whole humility thing is is like yeah if you

if you if you lose that that's it i just feel like you're done after that and the people will see that and then they won't we won't have as loyal of an audience as as we do because i think it's like kind of funny how you you can tell like you're like how the hell is this going on like you're like just as shocked as everybody

that's true we really are it's it's and you can imagine the guys who were so recently just out of their jobs like joe cold cuts and perez they still can't rap there it's it's surreal it's crazy yeah okay so then when you go like a tell me about the girl situation are you dating a lot lot of girls then?

And you don't have a girlfriend.

Do you want a girlfriend or you don't want a girlfriend?

Because why would you at this point?

Yeah.

Like, tell me what kind of girls do you like.

Give me all that.

So the girl that I was dating prior, she was very much, she was into the influencer type thing.

She was a golfer.

Yeah, she was a golfer.

Yeah, so she was big and she was awesome.

And it was really interesting to me.

How long did you guys date for, like a year?

A little over a year.

Okay.

Yeah.

And it was definitely probably the most serious girlfriend that I've had.

But what was interesting to me, and it ended up not working out.

But to see the fans get behind us the way they did it, because she was in a lot of the content and a lot of the podcasts that we did, and we were very compatible.

So, I think a lot of the fans really got behind us and enjoyed us.

And I know a lot of them thought we were getting married and whatnot, and they really got behind it.

And it was great, and we ended on very good terms.

Thankfully, why did you break up if you were so compatible?

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To be completely honest with you, I think from my, from my side, and she might tell you something different, but I think she would agree with this.

I am honest to God, I'm obsessed with what I'm doing.

And I think she was at a stage where she really wanted to have a family and move in and speed things up.

Understandably so.

She was a little bit older than me, which I how old is she?

She was three years older than me.

Okay.

So at the time, she was 31, 32.

I was 28, 29.

Yeah, you were like, yeah, I can totally understand.

Yeah, and she would be so good with that to where like I really did.

I mean, I thought that that would be the route for us, but like I, I was so into what I was doing that I wasn't ready to make that step.

And she understood that, you know, 100%.

She understood it.

And it just was best.

Like, I didn't want to hold her back because she wanted to go off, have a family and whatnot.

And I wasn't there yet.

And I just think over time,

I got there.

And I felt that we had so much to do on Bob Dev Sports.

And that was like

literally addicted to that.

And like, it just, I wasn't there yet.

And so we just both knew that it would be best to split up.

With that being said, the craziest thing for both of us, and we still talk, so we still talk about it till this day.

Oh, you do.

We could not believe the response as far as like when we broke up, it was like a public.

I couldn't wrap my head around that, like people messaging us all the time.

You know, where's Lauren?

People would be messing, messaging her.

Yeah, it was wild to us.

Yeah, and we would like, we would talk about it.

We still talk about it, how crazy that is, and we still get messages, what happened, because they were really bought into it.

They were invested in the relationship.

Yeah, it was, we really did.

We had a really great, I have nothing but good things to say about her.

And I could see why people really got behind us because we did the same stuff.

She came on the show.

She was amazing on the show, gorgeous girl, but it just didn't work out.

So then what kind of girls do you date or you like to date?

What's your type?

What I, to be honest, what I noticed from that, the thing that I would, that I would definitely do differently is, and again, it's nothing against her, but like I would prefer to date somebody that isn't necessarily in, like I wouldn't be as, as public in it and like isn't necessarily in the same field that I'm at.

Yeah.

So like I like somebody who.

very motivated like has their own thing going as well

and and then you know at the end of the day you're able to come together and do things and i think it's the healthiest thing to have that so i like girls with with with a lot of passion a lot of drive for what what they're doing because I know how driven I am and in what I'm doing and I think

it really works that way I love Latinas I've heard you I heard you say that on the three minutes I listened to some like silly thing I was listening some interview you were doing I told you before you said Latinas you just love Latinas so what do you like about it the fiery personality there's a little fire behind it for sure

I just find them very to be very very attractive in what way I love the Latina look I know What part of the look?

I want you to say it.

What do you like?

I guess you could say, like, the darker complexion.

Does that make sense?

It makes sense to me.

Does it?

Yeah.

It makes sense, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Makes sense.

The darker complexion.

And like you said, they have fire to fire.

And the biggest thing, too, I noticed Latinas are very family-oriented.

Do you disagree?

No, no, no, no.

I don't disagree or agree.

I'm like, I don't know.

I feel like, are they?

Because I don't know.

The ones that I've met.

Maybe the ones you know.

Yes.

Very family-oriented.

From what I've seen, which is a big thing for me because I'm very family-oriented.

Right.

But so are Italians and Jewish people are family-oriented.

Yeah, I should say that

there's not necessarily a race that you could say isn't very family-oriented.

No, there is some maybe who are not as family, but

Indian, Asian, there's a lot of people who are family family-oriented.

The Indians are very

much so.

So, I mean, so it's not, I don't think that's why necessarily you like the Latino.

You think it's the look.

I think it's maybe like, are you more, do you like more voluptuous?

Do you like more skinny?

Like, what's your look that you like?

I know you said darker complexion.

I'd say in between.

I'd say average size.

Yeah.

Short, tall.

Could be, could be either.

Either.

Okay.

Yeah.

Could be either there.

I think more than anything, Jen, when push comes to show up at the end of the day, it's the look.

The look, the Latino look.

Yes.

Even since, you know, I was, even in high school and stuff,

all of my friends would always go for like the popular i was i lived in a very um growing up in new jersey it was like a very suburban neighborhood and in high school and whatnot and all of my friends would go for like the big like popular girls and yeah the american popular girls and i would always go for the latina girls to really

kind of had my own market yeah and let them you know hash it out over over those girls yes yes yes you had your own niche that you liked

right yeah that's so and a girl that you were dating was not like she was a blonde girl right yeah yeah so that it was it was different than than what i but but she had such a good personality on her right so you're like i'll just do it this year

yes yeah

such pretty girl she had an amazing family and um yeah it just we were so she got she really understood me she understood me better than a lot of people i think which really made me like her a lot like her a lot yeah because everyone likes to be understood right she got it like she really did she really really got it and she was so good about letting me do um my thing and understanding it and that she also was a great cook too.

Oh, sounds good too.

You're probably wondering why we broke up.

I was going to say, she sounds, I'll date her.

She sounds pretty good to me.

You know what I mean?

She sounds great.

So, okay, so now we covered that.

What else?

Okay, breezy golf, we get that.

Is there something that I haven't asked you that is kind of a part of your

thing that I like a big chunk that I missed?

I mean, I think you've.

You don't have a water deal.

I know that.

No, but I like what I got going here.

Okay, that's good.

Yeah, I like that a lot.

You got to figure something out.

I like where your head's at a lot.

Yeah, I like that.

So you basically have Callaway, you have Celsius, you have Corona.

DraftKings.

You've got DraftKings too.

Yeah, DraftKings, Corona, Celsius.

You said you have a little bit of...

you know, a piece of that company pick something.

Yeah, I have prize picks as well, which theirs is like daily fantasy sports.

So there is a little bit of a difference between DraftKings.

Similar, no doubt about it, but different enough that you can make money from both.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Got it.

So, you know, that works too.

What other ones?

That's the cameo, of course, is a big thing.

Not a, not a.

Cameo is a big one.

Not an ad deal, but cameo is a big one.

Yeah.

That's basically, that's all.

Nothing else?

No other deals?

There's more deals that come in through Bob Desports.

I had chilies.

Did a few things with chilies.

I can totally see that.

Like, that's so your area.

I love, I'm obsessed with food.

Obsessed.

That's, okay, I agree.

Why don't you have a food line?

Why don't you create your own food food?

That would be something that I would love to do.

And And I'm just going to throw this out there.

Maybe I'm wrong.

I feel like you're a really good cook, like healthy food.

Very healthy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I had a feeling.

I feel like healthy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I just felt the need to throw that out.

No, no, I appreciate that.

And I appreciate you for noticing those things.

Yes.

Yes.

Thank you.

I love food to wear like an ideal sponsorship for me, especially being from Jersey.

Yeah.

I wanted a Jersey Mike sponsorship more than anything.

Be perfect.

Okay, that would be.

Well, how come your agent or manager, the family friend, is not working on that?

That would be perfect for your breezy golf tournament.

They can basically provide Jersey Mike sandwiches or something.

That would be a dream come true.

Let's write that down.

Yes, absolutely.

And I hope he's listening to this right now.

Listen, no, I think that's like a, I actually think that's actually a possibility.

I think so.

Is nobody working on these things?

I've done a couple posts for Jersey Mics, not for them.

They didn't ask me.

Are you pretending again?

It's kind of the Windex thing.

I do that to where I put out a post.

So what you should be doing is Subway, so then Jersey Mics comes for you.

I kind of like that even more.

The problem is, and not to bash them, but I'm going to, Subway's food, let's call a spade a spade, is terrible.

Terrible.

It's dog.

Oh, it's terrible, but you can do, oh, it's awful.

Also, I feel like it got worse over time.

I totally agree with you.

Really?

There's no way

you eat Subway.

Because you said you're very awful.

There's not a chance.

First of all, can I tell you something?

In that bread, there is a chemical that they use in the bread that is, they use it to make yoga mats and equipment.

Don't tell me that.

That's terrible.

Watch me get like sued for defamation.

If you're sponsoring Subway on the show here and if you want to sponsoring Subway on Washington, I'm going to call you out on it.

Don't you worry.

I wouldn't be saying that if I was.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They're just, I find like, it's like one of these fast food companies that is under the guise of being healthy, which is so not healthy.

Like their tuna is all mayonnaise with like maybe like a sparkle of like tuna fish in there.

That's not even tuna.

They can fool you too.

There's so many companies that fool me to where I actually think that I'm eating something healthy.

100%.

But I'm careful.

You know what I mean?

Totally.

That's 100%.

I totally agree.

Yeah.

What do you eat?

Like, give me the day in the life of you, Bobby.

You're not going to eat it.

Will Farrell.

You're not going to.

I swear Inchman.

Why do I keep on thinking of like Will Farrell from Incherman?

I don't know why.

I'll take it.

I mean, that's not a bad one.

You're not going to like this.

Okay.

Because it's not the most healthiest stuff, but like I'm a huge bagel guy.

So I usually start my.

I heard you like bagel and Lux and cream cheese.

I heard that already.

I love it.

yeah i love it bagels are my thing the other thing wait where do you where do you get your bagels and luxe and cream cheese from tough to find it out in los angeles it's not easy no there's a place in brentwood called pop's bagels oh i was gonna say a place in brentwood called courage nope uh this is right up my alley keep going not noah's bagels it's do you know where coral tree is no is it called you gotta get it for me because i will i'm gonna write that down

okay first of all they have like a million different like fresh bagels every day and then you could pick your

if you're into this, like very, they make their homemade cream cheeses, and then you get the lock.

Do you not like that?

I love that.

Okay.

Oh, I love that.

It's called New York Bagel.

It's called New York Bagel.

Is it Brooklyn Water Bagel by any chance?

No, it's New York.

It's called New York Bagel.

New York Bagel.

And it's a bagel place.

It's a breakfast place basically across.

Do you know where Frontrunners is in that little small?

It's right there.

I'm telling you, anytime somebody gives me a bagel recommendation, you're going there?

Yes.

Okay, it's called New York Bagel.

I promise you.

I'm going to hold you.

I'm going to be honest with you if i like it or not no i'm telling you you better tell me that you can handle the honesty do i look like i can't no not by any means i know you can i know damn well you can exactly come on so that's the one i would suggest okay so you love bagels so where have you found one you said here that you like besides the one i of course mine will be your new favorite pop pops bagels is amazing there's a place called courage bagels that is really good one where's pop you said in brentwood pops is in brentwood where in brentwood is that one i don't think i'm so bad like indirection

the worst you're you You were a guest services guy at the hotel.

I know.

Why would you bad?

I would send them to concierge.

That's exactly.

I would send them right to the concierge.

That's exactly.

And then I'm a big pizza guy.

Oh, I love pizza.

Yeah.

Which kind of pizza do you like?

I like the regular, like, New York slice.

Yes.

And I like the places that sell pizza by the slice.

You too.

Where?

Vito's off La Cienega is one of my favorites.

Okay.

I love Vito's.

Prince Tree Pizza is really good.

Joe's is really good joe's is good yeah but so many places my issue with the dough gen so many places and it seems to be an la thing new york new jersey that's the beauty of it they don't do it by the slice like you have to get a pie which to me growing up i'd always for lunch anywhere throughout the day you stop somewhere you grab a slice you can get one at like mulberry though can't you yes you can mulberry's another good one yeah it has to be fresh though yes that's the problem if it's sitting there it doesn't taste good no it's got to be fresh yeah pizza is a big thing and then i always go out to dinner.

Okay, so name, besides that one restaurant, what else?

Rayo's, you said, what else do you like?

Rayo's, I absolutely love.

There's a steakhouse in Beverly Hills.

It's an older school one called Grill on the Alley.

Oh, I used to.

Oh my God, I love the grill.

Is it not unbelievable?

Amazing.

I love it.

They do a big power lunch, too.

A huge power.

By the way, that was the place to go for lunch back when.

Yeah.

Is it still?

They have such an older, it's like an older Beverly Hills crowd.

That's what it is.

Every time I go, I'm the youngest guy in there for sure.

Yeah.

But I love it.

So I go there all day.

I love their sourdough bread, too.

Yes.

Yeah.

So you are big on the grill in the alley.

Yeah, I love it.

It's so good.

So I love steak.

I love steak too.

I don't necessarily eat very healthy, but I was telling you, the good thing I try and even it out by working out.

That's good.

Well, steak's not bad if you don't have like, because I'm a big protein person.

You just have like the

greasy potatoes.

I know, and I always got to do the sides.

Yeah, that's the problem.

I have to do it.

I have to.

I can't say no.

I know.

It's hard.

Yeah.

yeah, but you gotta, if you gotta like do swaps, like if you're gonna have this, then you can't have that, fair, you know, fair, or like what can for it for in the morning.

You said you work out now, so what is your like day-to-day?

You wake up at what time you eat what?

I want to, I want to know your habits for the day, yeah.

So, lately, what I've been doing, I've been working out for a while.

I do the class I was telling you about F45.

F-45, yeah, we're talking about it.

I wake up at about 6:30.

I go to sleep really early.

I'm kind of, I'm a very old soul.

I love, maybe that's why I like you.

You don't seem 30, You seem like you're like in your 40s.

Yeah, I'm an old soul.

I really am.

I go to bed at like 9.30.

Yeah, I'm out early.

My friends know too, like if they try and get me out,

no.

And I used to feel bad.

Like, you know, they would guilt trip me.

Totally.

They know now when I say no, I'm just not.

I'm not going.

Good.

So are you a drinker then?

Really?

I am.

Like, when we go out to dinner,

I could have dinner and sit at the table and drink all night.

Like, I love that.

So, yeah, I am a drinker on the golf course for sure.

But I don't, like, I'm not a big partier i don't i don't you're not a party no i'm done with the clubs good for you

yeah just i i don't i don't know it doesn't you're so menshi i love you okay please okay i'm just i'm like loving you i see it so much i see it i see why all these people like you so much i keep on saying come back here anytime i swear i feel good i swear it's so true though i like i'm like in my head i'm like this guy is so likable thank you i like that smile it's like

so cute made me smile made me smile It's amazing, your smile.

Thank you.

Okay, so you wake up.

So you go to bed at 9.30.

Then what?

Yeah, I go to bed about 9.30.

I wake up at about like 6, 6.30.

Okay.

And then immediately go to 4:45.

Yep.

Which one do you go?

Not to McWhorter's.

No, no, no, no, no.

You're fine.

There'll be a whole lot of people.

There's one in Hollywood that I go to.

I used to live on the building above it, so I used to just walk down there.

Now I moved.

Where do you live now?

Right now I'm in West Hollywood.

You don't live in anything else, West Hollywood.

Yeah, yeah.

Thank you.

I appreciate it.

Thank you.

Okay.

Good save.

I'm right at number 2467.

Lost the anago.

No, but so I wake up, I go to the gym right away.

And now it's at the point where I go so much that if I don't, I mean, I'm sure you know even better than me, if I don't go to the gym, I don't feel on.

No, I feel off, too.

Totally.

Yeah, I feel massive.

Like I just, I don't feel good about myself.

I feel lazy.

I'm a little lethargic.

Totally.

People don't understand that, like, the gym also energy begets energy.

The excuse everyone always says, like, I don't have the energy.

I'm not, I don't feel well.

You'll feel so much better and you're so much more productive after you go to the gym.

That's crazy.

Yeah,

I've noticed that.

And like, I almost, I have to do it.

I will take like one day off a week, but my, the reason everyone's like, yeah, but I don't like going to the gym.

I don't like going to the gym either.

What I love is that feeling walking out of the gym.

I'm like the serotonin.

I'm on like, I'm on cloud nine.

100%.

It's the best.

I agree with you 100%.

Yeah.

So I've loved that.

I go to the gym.

I go back home.

What I've been doing lately is I go to this place, Joe and the Juice.

Oh, yes.

I can't stop doing a gym.

They do these tuna wraps.

They're like paninis.

It's like a tuna.

In the morning?

I know.

I know.

We've got to work on your

that comes at like 10 o'clock.

Okay, wait.

So that's the first thing you eat is a tuna panini?

Is that bad?

Yes.

You laid on me.

Yes.

I thought that, CT, to me, I think tuna's healthy.

Tuna is healthy once in a while.

Do you know, but there's a lot of mercury in tuna.

You got to watch tuna because there's a lot of, like, like, you got to be careful.

I love tuna too, but I have to, like, I have to pace myself because of all the mercury and all the, like, there's a lot of heavy metals in that, right?

Yeah.

And I'm sure they're using it, Joe, and the juice.

Like, are they putting mayo in it?

Like, a huge.

I got to ask them.

It's avocado, it's avocado, and then I do a strawberry banana smoothie, which is that, is that okay?

Well, it depends what's in it.

That's a problem.

See, that's, that's the thing.

To me, I think strawberry banana smoothie, I'm good.

It's fine.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I'm not.

It's not necessary.

I mean, I wouldn't have that as my first meal, but that's me.

But I, you were sick to your stomach when you found out that I was eating yourself.

I was thinking, it's a weird thing to do.

It's crazy.

Like, hmm, like in the morning at 10 o'clock.

Sounds disgusting.

I'm going to have a tuna panini.

Yeah, it's like you just brush your teeth and now you're having a tuna pani.

Well, it sounds a little bit off.

Like, wouldn't you rather have like an omelet or

this tuna so good that no, usually, yes.

Do me a favor.

Okay.

You make a promise to me that you will go and you will just try that tuna panini.

A, let me know if it's healthy or not.

And B, let me know if you enjoy it.

And I think you might understand it a little you might get it a little more if you try it i know how ridiculous it sounds probably is ridiculous it kind of is but you have to just do that for me one day i totally will but you know even better have you ever had the carla cafe tuna salad i've heard about that and the sandwich and the sandwich yeah i've heard about it it became very popular like like you did in in like during covid yes that's exactly it blew up it blew up during covid just like you i've had you guys should do a collaboration with yes yes the covid crew i like that i'm telling you because you both like had your moment that that started in the in covet i came alive right around the time that the carla cafe tuna sandwich and tuna salad came alive i'm telling you you have to try that salad it is like amazing

sandwich i got to try the salad now yeah are you worried about the mercury in that salad well that my so you and i have the same thing i'm obsessed with tuna i love tuna love it and so like i have to like back myself i would eat it every day if i could so now i like i'm like i like only will let myself once or twice a week.

And that's, by the way, way too much.

You should only eat tuna like once a month.

Are you serious?

Yes, but I love it too much.

That's a problem.

That's a problem.

But I don't drink and I don't do this and I don't do that.

Like you could have a vice here and there.

Right.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, if, look, if tuna is your vice, you're doing A-okay.

I think I'm doing okay, right?

So I mean, it's not bad, right?

For sure.

I could do worse.

No, right?

Yeah, you're doing A-okay.

I'm doing okay.

Okay, so you have your sandwich.

I have my sandwich, and then it's a lot of Bob Dust Sports calls with different.

What time does it start?

Like at 10 o'clock, 10.30?

Even before breakfast.

So after lunch, it's right away.

It's just call after call after call.

Yeah.

Setting up where our next Bob DeSports trip is going to be.

Like, there's not a day that goes by where there's not phone calls, manager, different things like that.

And then I...

Probably takes me about an hour, maybe a little over an hour for cameos.

That's it.

So you do 20 in an hour?

Yeah, maybe probably go.

I shouldn't say an hour.

It probably goes a little bit over an hour, but I'm so used to doing them now that

I can I can mow through them pretty fast.

And then each cameo I do, it's like a 45 seconds cameo, so I do mow through it.

I take a little bit of a break here and there, but that's crazy.

That's like a great revenue stream, though.

Oh, it's yeah, it's it's amazing.

And the fact that you're a number one on cameo is so crazy.

We make a thing out of it too, like with the fans that like they try and push me to get to the number one on cameo.

And as ridiculous as it is, like I kind of make a spoof out of it but they like love it to where like when they book the cameo they feel like they're really helpful which they are you know they they definitely are they are um how did you get your audience by the way so engaged like is it just did it like i think it wasn't like you said it wasn't even you didn't try it just happened that way yeah i just you know what i i just i think that they can see even like what you said that like we're just kind of winging it like yeah i think they see that too and they just like it yeah and they like really appreciate it that like we're not stuck up.

We're not, we're very aware of how insane that this is a job for us.

And I, I think that they're able to see that.

And we have noticed that it is a very loyal audience.

And more importantly, like on the internet today, like there's so many, no matter what you post, you're going to have people that are going to comment that are going to be trolling your stuff.

If you look at Bob Desports videos or Brilliantly Dumb or whatnot, there are so few bad comments in there to where we just have the best fans.

They're so supportive.

You meet them outside and like, they're just the best.

They're not annoying.

Like, they're just, they're awesome.

Wow, that isn't, that is amazing.

Yeah.

It really is.

It's really, really cool.

And, and we're definitely thankful for it.

But yeah, like, even like meeting them, like, it's not even like a, it's so much fun to meet them.

Like, the interactions are great.

Like, it really is.

It's really cool.

It's, it's, and it's, you can even tell how you're talking about it.

Yeah.

You know, like, it's just that it is that way.

Okay, what do you have for lunch and your snacks?

I want to know your food.

So I'm not getting away from this one.

The amount that I postmates is

sickening.

It's, it's crazy.

What a waste of money, by the way.

For sure.

No doubt about it.

I wish, or even if I had a girlfriend that like, like my, my ex loved to cook.

It was awesome.

I love home-cooked meals.

Like, we'd go to the grocery store.

I loved that.

Now that I'm single, postmate

two to three times a day.

Yeah.

How do you postmating?

Any and everything.

Like, okay, what?

Last night, I mean, this was kind of ridiculous.

Well, so, like, sushi, but like, last night, this is a wild post-mate order.

I did catch LA for postmates, which my cousin thinks is the most ridiculous thing of all time.

Wait, you postmate, catch LA?

Crazy move.

I'm not happy about it.

Yeah, I'm not.

I'm not happy about it.

Dad, it doesn't even do good sushi.

The sushi's okay,

yeah.

The sushi Fumi.

Have you been to sushi?

I love sushi.

That's my favorite.

The problem is.

I know, the lineup.

It's crazy.

It's crazy.

You can't make a reservation.

You can't make a reservation.

You don't understand.

First of all, do you know how you have to be there at 5.45 or else you're just like, you're done?

I know.

Who goes at 5.45 for what time do you go to sushifumi?

So before, what I would do is I would have to like, literally, it would give me like ageda and anxiety the day I know I'm going there because I know I have to finish my day so early to get there on time.

Yeah.

to like to get in.

Yes.

So I would say I would get there around like, I used to be able to get there like 6.18.

Okay.

Okay.

And maybe, and like I would, I would like kind of give the guy a little bit of money.

Of course, you did.

You know, the game.

You know the game.

But now only one guy can take the money.

So if you're not there before, you're screwed.

So now I don't even go there unless I know I'm going to get there around 5:45.

But then

I know.

And then even you get there at 6.18, like you get there, which if you say you're getting there at 6.18, you get there at 6.18 because you didn't say 620.

I did not say 6.20.

You said 6.18.

You know why I said 618?

Because it's not because of me.

Because if you wait, those extra two minutes will make you wait in in line for 45 minutes.

Crucial.

It'd be crucial.

As I'm walking up to the door, I see a whole like herd of people going to put their names down.

That's what happens.

I know, and it's such a good sushi spot.

It really is.

It's amazing.

It's such a shame.

What's your other sushi spot?

Okay, so I found this other place, and I'm going to shout them out.

It's called Suri Sushi on Melrose.

Sure.

Never heard of it.

It's very good.

And a lot of people, when they can't get into Fumi, now they know

they're there.

And it's really good.

Now, sushi's healthy, right?

Well, no.

I mean, anyway.

Oh, geez, genuinely.

It It depends on what you're eating.

What are you eating at sushi?

What do you get at Fumi that you like?

I mean, I don't get this at Fumi, but I love the Philadelphia roll.

Oh, well, come on.

I know, because it's kind of like a big one.

That's exactly right.

I know.

I knew when I said that.

Yeah, it really is.

It's like a lox and cream pea sandwich.

That's why you like it.

That's hilarious.

Right.

I don't get that.

I get, you know what I love?

I love the albacore with fried onions.

Now, that is healthy, right?

Well, besides the fried onions, but that's like, and also so much sodium in there.

Like, listen, it's not great.

All the parasites and raw fish.

People assume that sushi is healthy.

It's a farce.

It's like Subway.

People think it's healthy.

They do.

But it's not really healthy.

Sushi, then, if that's the case, that's the big, because every time I think I'm eating sushi, I think I'm eating healthy.

Well, if you went and got just fit, like just like sashimi, it's clean, but is it healthy?

I mean, yeah, it's healthy.

But you have, again, you can't eat that every day because of all the parasites.

It depends on what level of health we're talking.

Are we talking clean that you're not going to like feel bloated and you're not going to gain weight?

Are we talking healthy in terms of parasites and toxicity?

Yes.

You got to be more clear.

That's a good skill.

I would say all I want, Jen, is

clean.

Is clean.

Yeah, I just want to be somewhat, look somewhat fit.

Yeah, you look good now, by the way.

Do I?

Yeah.

I appreciate that.

You look like you're getting fit.

Thank you so much.

I'm definitely trying.

It really works for you.

Beautiful.

Whenever you want to have me back on, I'm here.

I'm enjoying it.

I want you to be a regular.

Maybe you can be like a series regular.

I might co-host.

I'm telling you,

you should.

My downloads would like spike.

I'm telling you.

You can have this as part of your whole umbrella.

It will be like Bob Dustin Sports.

I'm in.

Breezy Golf.

Whenever you want to.

Hoppin' Hustle.

You could have a whole litany of stuff under your name.

I just made myself the co-host.

I just turned myself.

I'm kidding.

Maybe you could come like once every six weeks.

Sure.

And sit, we could do like a solo together, like every 20 minutes.

Yeah.

Say the word.

And we could like do like reviews like a food or of like whatever.

Yeah, you are foodie, huh?

I love food.

I'm like, I am like really like an obese person stuck in like not stuck in like a normal person's body.

The only thing that I will say though, I like, I would be very curious.

Okay, like what's your cheat meal?

There's no way your cheat meal is actually probably my healthy meal.

No, it's not.

I'm telling you, I'm up.

Okay, this is the truth.

I am obsessed with food.

I think about food all the time.

Me too.

It's like in my brain.

Like, even while I'm talking to you, I'm like, I'm gonna have lunch.

I'm thinking about it right now.

Yeah, I'm having sushi tonight.

I'm thinking, like, when can I go to sushi food?

I can be able to go again soon or 6-18.

Where should I have it?

Well, but I'd be able to be able to get there by 6.

I'm like, this is what I'm thinking about in my head.

I don't blame you.

Like, and if I could, if I allowed myself, I would have french fries, pizza, I would have bales and cream cheese all the time.

I would have all of the shit all the time.

But

I've disciplined, I've now, I've basically disciplined myself to a place where I won't allow myself because I've created like parameters for myself

that I won't allow, that will now stop me from doing it because I don't like the after effect.

Like I don't want to feel gross.

That's the thing.

I want to fit into my clothes.

Yes.

You know what I mean?

So I've now created these parameters so that doesn't happen.

Isn't that crazy too?

Like, okay, so like football Sundays.

I'd be fat Perez.

Yeah, yeah, probably.

I would do your female fat Perez.

It's crazy, though.

Like, I, even like on football Sundays, are really when I go nuts.

Like, for Perez.

But then by the end of the day, mentally, I feel like almost like depressed in the sense of A, football's over, but B, I ate so shitty that I feel just awful about myself.

You know what I mean?

Right.

And it, like, it's like, it...

It's like becomes like really a psychological thing.

Yeah.

Where you beat yourself up.

1,000%.

It's terrible.

Or even the next morning, I don't get the same workout.

I don't get as good of a workout in.

Like last night I ate healthy.

So this morning I got a great workout and you feel, and again, I'm not a big health nut by any means, but I've noticed a lot of this stuff.

Yeah.

Well, you've conditioned, well, what happens is you conditioned yourself now to feel a certain way.

And when you don't, when you're, when you're off kilter, you've, that's when you feel it even more.

So for me, my life has been, not most of my life, like, I know you don't know my background that much, but like I've written a bunch of health and fitness books, have lots of DVDs, I've created fitness companies.

Like this is what I do.

And so like for me, I live and breathe it so much because I am like addicted to the feeling of what happens after.

Like I'm, you know what I mean?

Like not the workout alone.

It's like the feeling after and all the accoutrements that come with it.

So do you not look forward to working out?

Well, I've been doing it for so long and like at every modality, right?

So like it's not that I can not not work out because psychologically and mentally, I would not be able to like, like I would be worse off like I would not my my mental acuteness wouldn't be there my cognitive like focus and energy I'm way more alert I'm just on point more like that's the for me it's become way more mental than it has like physical but then also physical like I would feel I feel gross like I need to sweat like multiple times like for me I like to be active I don't like to sit and like be stationary yeah you start to mentally just get you get in your head and like oh it's awful the thing i worry about is now i got you eating this tuna wrap to where i'm gonna damage your day you're not gonna damage my day because it's not i mean if it's a wrap i can do that like the wrap is not bad you have to i'm gonna be so curious for what you say about that i'm telling you i think the i mean if it's at joe's juice whatever it can't be that bad because it's like a supposedly a healthier the mayonnaise thing bothers me though the mayonnaise because you're right it probably does have a lot of mayonnaise it probably does but it depends what kind of bread it is and how often you're doing it i would personally like to see you doing more like like uh egg scrap like a turkey scramble maybe an egg scramble i can get behind that like in the morning i would see that you know what i want that i would spend money for on no problem but i you i have not been able to find a good one all of the ones the food is not good

If I would pay top dollar for a meal prep service.

There's a million of them.

Yes, but everyone that I've had, the food isn't good.

Right, or they it gets sick you get like kind of like sick of it after yeah it's not a good mix and like that's true there's a lot of other like i have a guy do you know don have you ever heard of a guy named don saladino no okay so he's this guy that is like a trainer to like he create he basically trains superheroes like he does like ryan reynolds for you know

wolverine he's like he's a friend of mine who i i adore he lives in new york and he started a food or not he started he has a food line now through this other company that he's very involved with or he owns, or I'm not 100% sure of the deal.

But he sends me stuff from that food thing.

He had these mud bowls that were like protein, like overnight oats.

Yeah.

So amazing.

See, that's what I need.

I'm telling you.

You need something like that.

You need like a real situation where you're going to now, you're going to take your health.

and your fitness to the next level.

You have to, but nutrition is 90% of it.

Like fitness will get you so far.

And then if you're not eating like on point, I'm not saying you got to be clean all the time.

I'm not saying that, but you have to be at least like nutritionally like eating the right macros, eating the right fat, eating the right, you know what I mean?

I think if me and you did a deep dive, which we kind of just did, you'd be pretty sick over what I'm eating.

And you probably are because we kind of just did do a deep dive.

I mean, you're going to sushi and having a Philadelphia roll.

Yeah.

That's not exactly.

And it's kind of disrespectful to the sushi place to get the Philadelphia roll.

Well, you know what I feel?

Like, yeah, like, why?

Number one, not to them.

It's like, you're the idiot for getting it, but that's correct.

Why would you think you're going all the way to food?

Me standing in that line and then getting that?

Like, you can get that at like any cheap sushi place.

I think it's what you said, which really hit me.

It was true.

It reminds me of a bagel.

Yeah.

So, like,

and I loved bagels so much that that's probably why I'm getting the Philadelphia roll.

That's why.

We have to like restructure your food.

I know, just some tweaks.

I just want to be in a position where

I'm fit.

I can afford to to have a cheat meal here and there and that you know i don't need to be some you know i don't want to be too shredded just just you know not too shredded well i'll tell you the good little trick whatever what i do is i put my first meal which is breakfast on autopilot so i never think about that i always have the same breakfast that way it's not something that i'm like craving thinking about and that gives me a lot of room like that in my day so i can like have like the dinner i want or the lunch i want so if i'm so in the morning i'll always have eggs and grapefruit before or after you work out before because if I'm not eating, I'll get nauseous.

Right, yeah.

And so, if I drink coffee and then I'm not working out as hard, and all the research has shown, and people, people can say one thing or the other, and it's people who are on both sides.

It does, there's almost zero difference if you eat before or you don't eat before.

Because people are like, oh, fasted cardio, and then you can burn the fat.

Right, yeah, there's all different, you have to do a different thing every day.

It's not.

The only thing that I will say is nice that I do like is like, or even for you when you get to your lunch, is like after you work out, you feel like you earn the meal.

I enjoy eating after I work out because I'm like, all right, like I earned that and I know I need to recover.

So I'm like, I'm doing right.

Whereas if, you know.

And by the way, that turkey said, I mean, I'm giving you some shit, but there's way worse things you can be eating.

You're not going at having like a stack of pancakes and syrup.

Yeah, but it's in my head now to where I do have to think about it now, which is why I need you to go do the research for me.

Okay, I'm going to, where is there a Joe's juice around here?

So it's Joe.

I think it's Joe.

Joe and the juice.

Joe and the juice.

The one I go to is off La Cienega on, I can't think of where it is, but there's so many.

They're across the board.

So you just type in Joe and the juice, you're going to find

Joe and the Juice.

I think there's one on Melrose.

I know there's ones on that side of town.

I'm trying to think around here.

Another thing, do you ever drink like shakes or greens or superfoods?

There's a company that sponsored us that sent me something and I love doing it.

And I finished it and I forgot to just ask them for more.

Athletic Greens.

Athletic Greens.

They were one of my sponsors on this podcast.

They're really good.

You should be

able to get this, by the way, and give it to them.

Yeah.

There we go.

You bought yourself a deal.

Listen, we're going to clip this.

I like this.

Athletic Greens.

Do not say I don't do anything for you.

We have Bob does sports on here.

I love it.

And he just said that of all the greens, he's drinking yours and he loves it.

So use this clip on your social media.

And now here's the thing.

Maybe I'm ruining it all, but I always wondered with those green juices.

Like, obviously, this is.

I'll edit this part.

Yeah.

Just kidding.

like, I always wonder because I feel like I have the athletic greens, I feel so good after it.

I always wondered if it's just like in my head that I'm feeling so good because I know I'm putting such good stuff into my body, or if physically I really do.

You know what I mean?

Of course, I know what you mean.

I'm going to tell you a little yesterday on the podcast, I had this guy.

Do you know who Lane Norton is?

He goes by BioLane.

He's really popular on like on social media, like I think a million follow-up like something a lot, right?

Um, very popular, and he's got a PhD in nutrition and and and fitness and he he debunks all these myths and blah blah blah anyway so he was on yesterday and we were talking about a study that he a meta-analysis study where he was talking about placebo versus real yeah and you know the placebo of people thinking that they're doing something good for them is actually

turns out more effective

than the physiological.

So like if you psychologically believe that you're drinking the athletic greens and it's really doing something for you, then it will bet it will benefit you more than even the

physical reasons.

I believe that, by the way, a thousand percent.

I've never heard that, that take on it.

I agree with that a thousand percent.

Yeah, it's true.

I mean, just knowing, like, I feel incredible, if I work out, take the athletic greens, going about my day, I feel amazing.

My energy's through the roof.

Like, I already have a lot of energy as is.

Yeah.

It's totally different.

Yeah.

I actually am a big believer in that stuff, but like, I think those things do help.

I think that's why I think also though, like knowing like nutrition to me is giving you the fuel that you're going to have to even take it to the next level in an energy.

And in terms of like plus like psychologically, thinking that you know you're eating better and doing these things will make you work harder and better and different just because

you think you

like have the.

overall capacity and energy to do it.

That's what I think.

We should work.

Okay, so we're going to work out together.

I want to see.

You're going to bury me.

No, well, that we know.

But besides,

but I want to see where you are because I think that we can like definitely take it up like just a little bit.

Sure.

I'm not sure from F45.

Yeah, that's the thing.

And we talked a little bit about it.

Like F45 is that 45 minutes to where they do the weekend classes, they do an hour.

The difference between the 45, that extra 15 minutes is a big 15 minutes to where I do think I'd be in a lot better shape if I did more like our classes, but it's a grind.

The hour is a grind.

It's a grind.

And also, I should say to everybody, as long as you're doing something, it doesn't matter what someone does as long as they're doing something because it's the thing you like the least, like the one that you hate the least is what's going to actually work.

Yeah.

Cause you're going to do it, right?

If I said you go do Barry's boot camp, which is

so much more intense, but you absolutely hate it, you're never going to go.

Right.

And therefore, it's not going to help.

But if you go to F45 every day and you're burning those calories and you're feeling good and and then you're making other good choices because of that yeah then you're like off to the races yeah you know i i do and i i enjoy i i'm at the point now where like i shouldn't say i enjoy going to the gym but like i enjoy the the instructors there i have a good rapport with them and shocking

so many people like they use the gym and they it's like a social club for them totally for me with f45 you're in and you're out i just want to get in and i want to get out i know and i want to move about my day 100 with that you're in they start the instruction and you get on at it yeah that's exactly true because Because when I go to Equinox, it's like a whole project.

Oh, everybody's like, Equinox, I go to Equinox.

But listen, because I created a class that they bought, and I said, I part of my deal, I mean, this is like a whole, I feel like now I'm on your podcast, is that I would teach that class once every so often.

This was years ago.

And then I kept on going because I got my memberships all over the world.

I got this and that.

So now I still go.

Oh, well, I'd be going to Equinox if I were you.

I mean, I go.

Yeah.

But it's a whole thing.

It's like, I got to go in, I got to park the car.

I got to say hi to everybody.

By the time I'm out of there, it's like dinner time.

And I'm like, my cousin would take me to his gym and everybody's like socializing after and stuff, which fine.

If that's what you want to do, fine.

I just, I don't want to go to the gym.

I mean, I'm out.

Yeah.

And done.

And you're done.

And then I go get my tuna round.

And then you get a tuner, which is what really you want to do in the first place.

Simple man, James.

A simple man.

Oh, my God.

Okay, so listen, I don't know how long.

I don't even know how long this podcast has been.

How long has it been?

Because my watch is hour 50.

Holy.

Oh, two hours.

Okay.

That's not bad.

So when you do our solos, you'll see it's very, very, we have a nice rapport.

You see this?

The time flies.

The time flies.

Two hours talking to Bob does sports.

Not bad.

You got a very good story.

Thank you.

I love to hear all about the food.

This is like my favorite part, to be honest.

For people living under a rock, where would they find you?

So

YouTube, Bob does sports.

Yep.

Instagram, Bob does sports.

We're on all platforms.

Brilliantly dumb, cross the board, and then the Brilliantly Dumb Show, the other podcast we have as well.

Same thing, cross the board, Instagram, YouTube, all of that good stuff.

A lot of content going around.

I'm telling you, this guy is the real deal.

I'm so happy you came on this podcast.

I'm not joking.

I do want you to come back and like do these solos with me.

I'll be ready for you.

And by the way, I thought you would probably say like an hour or something.

I really enjoyed it.

I really, it flew by.

It really was.

It was a lot of fun.

Thank you.

I feel like I think so too.

This was, I'm so glad.

My friend told me about you, like basically, not just told me, basically said, you have to have this guy on the podcast or else you're a fucking idiot.

And my husband also agreed.

So, I'm happy that we did this.

This is great.

It was a lot of fun.

Thank you so much for having me, Jen.

I appreciate it.

Thank you.