Episode 175: Tunde Oyeneyin – Peloton Cycling Instructor, Makeup Artist, and Best Selling Author of “Speak”

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Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins.

You're listening to Habits and Hustle, President.

Today on the podcast, I had the pleasure of speaking with Tunde Oyonin, who is one of the most popular Peloton instructors I have ever seen.

She has garnered such an audience and motivates people at a level that is just beyond.

She also is now a new author of a book called Speak, which is now a New York Times bestseller.

It's called Speak, Find Your Voice, Trust Your Gut, and Get From Where You Are to Where You Want to Be.

It's an empowering look into how she transformed grief and setbacks and flaws into growth and self-confidence and triumph.

She really is amazing.

She's also, she used to be a makeup artist.

She also now has a podcast with Peloton called Fitness Flipped.

And she's becoming very, very quickly one of the most popular motivational speakers on the circuit.

So I really hope that you enjoy listening to this podcast.

We talk all about how you can turn your life around and you can make your pain your fuel and about resilience.

And I hope you enjoy.

How many classes, by the way, do you do a day, or what's the schedule like when you we're doing this?

This is part of the podcast.

Oh, we started.

Okay.

Well, I didn't know that girlfriend.

Hey, everybody.

I used to teach pre-pandemic 12 to 14 classes a week.

Now I teach

maybe six to eight classes a week.

I think maybe three or four of those are live.

And then

I don't even know.

This is a really great question.

Maybe I said, should sit down and count how many classes I teach a week.

I would actually say, yeah, maybe like six, six to eight classes a week.

And I'm curious, I'm going to ask you right off the bat.

So what do you, other than doing Peloton now, what kind of workouts do you do for yourself?

Because,

you know, or is it just, is it just cycling?

Because you just like it so much?

Or because you're doing it for a job, does it kind of feel like it's like too much already?

And it's not really actually like, not that it's not fun, but it's like you're giving so much to your to the class that it's not really your time, right?

So, what do you do on your right?

Right.

Well, I mean, I think that any well-rounded workout encompass is fully encompassing.

So, I would never recommend to do it one of anything, whether that's strength training, cardio, whatever.

I love cycling.

And so, a lot of times, cycling is my cardio, but I definitely mix in strength training, that's lifting weights, Pilates,

yoga,

lots of core work.

And then in terms of it being my thing, like if I'm teaching a class that day, I don't necessarily consider that my workout because, you know, when you work out, a workout is a release, like you're releasing and then drawing inward.

Kind of like you're escaping and you're forgetting the reality that's happening.

I would love to do that during a cycling class, but then I wouldn't talk and say a word or cue or know what song was coming up next.

And so I'm so fully aware of what's happening next and what I need to cue in terms of cadence resistance was about tapping in the class.

And so it isn't my workout.

It isn't my release.

It's my work, not my workout, if that makes sense.

It makes perfect sense.

I mean,

years ago, that's, I used to do a lot of training for record labels.

That's really how I started in my life, in my world.

And so I did so much of it that I was so burnt out when I didn't even like to work out for myself, right?

Because I was so, I was doing the same thing with so many people that when it came to me i was like oh my god here i go again like your passion that you turn into uh a job a lot of times becomes you kind of it becomes lackluster right sometimes because then you're burnt out so you never get burnt out like when do you ever have a place

You know, I am a people person.

Like I feed off of human energy and connection.

And if I was just teaching in an empty cycling room, I probably would be burnt out by now.

I am teaching in an empty cycling room and I'm able to receive what's happening on the other end.

And so I get Instagram messages, DMs, I see what's going on.

I run into people at the supermarket.

And so that's what fuels me, like the people piece of it.

When I get to connect with the people that are on the other side of the screen, screen.

on the other side of the screen, that's what, that's what fills me up.

I said scream because I think about what people are doing in my class.

They're screaming at me.

Right.

People on the other side of the screen.

Yeah, that fills me up.

You know, I was saying to you before we got like our technical difficulty that the one thing, I do a lot of fitness stuff, but the one thing I have never really done

continually is

spinning or Peloton, which is so funny because when I knew you were coming on and when we scheduled this, I cannot tell you.

I was saying, everybody was so psyched for having, it was like, it was literally having like a rock star.

It could have been like having you know cold play on or something i'll just make it a whoever you know like people are like oh my god like my doctor my sister my friends like my neighbor i mean it's really remarkable because people see you i mean peloton is so so popular right

and people you've like you hit so that what 20 000 people you teach a day let's say right is that amount then now uh yeah i mean up to in a live class it could be anywhere from 20 000 people in one live class that's happening, not to mention classes that live on demand that have various users all throughout the day.

Absolutely.

It makes people like instant celebrities, right?

Where people feel like they know you, they see you in their living room every single day.

And

it's remarkable.

So the impact that you have on so many people

is

beyond.

But is it strange for you?

Because like that, was it weird?

Was it strange to get used to?

like does it feed you how do you deal with it because it's a lot like from not to having that and and then in the Peloton community having so many people know who you are when you walk down the street or go shopping like you said that's like that is

jarring I think I think what's interesting about it is you know when you're as a Peloton instructor or rather as an actress I think about

Jennifer Anison, who played Rachel for years on friends.

Jennifer Anison played a character.

And And so as much as Jennifer Anison is, you know, this very much likable girl next door, you fall in love with the character that she's playing until the day of now Instagram, where you feel like you know people a little bit better.

The interesting thing about a Peloton instructor is we're not playing anybody.

You're going in there as the role.

of yourself.

And so you know like what I'm eating for lunch and dinner because sometimes I'll talk about it in class.

You know if I'm dating anybody because sometimes I'll talk about it in class.

And so you're really getting to see

someone from the inside out.

And then the friend connection comes in because this is somebody that you see daily.

This is somebody who is struggling with you daily.

This is somebody who's growing with you daily.

This is somebody who is helping to push you.

through or to overcome obstacles daily.

So there's a really interesting, unique, and beautiful relationship that's formed out of it.

Has it taken some time to get used to?

Totally.

I mean, Peloton was obviously big before the pandemic.

And then after the pandemic, it was like mass explosion.

And so, you know, we went from isolation, not going outside, to them going outside and wearing masks and somewhat being recognized, like if I had my dog with me.

And then now that...

that the masks are off, it is definitely like stepping into this new space all at once.

But I welcome it.

I would much rather people recognize me for someone they like versus being recognized as this person that you hate.

So I take it and I welcome it.

No, they like you.

I mean, honestly, like my dermatologist, who's, I don't know, what, she's over, I think she's around 60.

She's like, can I come over and like meet like people are like so excited.

I'm like, I'm not doing it in person, this one.

But it's really, it's a, it's a very nice talk.

It's too funny.

No, it's, it's great.

I mean, so, I mean, we're going to talk all about your book, which I i wanted i really by the way i really enjoyed your book it was it was a really you did a really nice job you're welcome um but i just wanted to like you know you became so popular like is most of this the instructors don't have this type of popularity correct like you're probably the what top top instructor there like you must be you and caught

cosby

cody cody

each each each instructor has their own fan base and their their own community i look at uh peloton one of the instructors, his name is Sam Yeo, he likened a Peloton instructor to the Avengers.

Like each person plays

a very specific role.

And, you know,

I don't think that we'd be as successful as we are without any one person on this team.

No one would be as successful on their own, that's for sure.

And I think it really is like each character uh bringing forth their specific role that makes this what it is like i wouldn't be strong without my teammates um uh we we we definitely support one another and make this thing the magic that it is i love that analogy actually so what would be your role what would how would you define what your what avenger would you be

um i think you know if i if i think about what i bring to the table i'm definitely the person who will motivate the hell out of you while kicking your ass

with a smile on my face.

Not smiling at you because I'm kicking your ass, but smiling because it's this idea that we get to be in this space and bring out the best of ourselves within it.

I always say, I will push you, but I will never let you fall.

We work really, really, really hard in my classes, but we equally have just as much fun.

Like, I hope that you smile within it.

I hope maybe there is a point that you laugh.

I hope that you're dancing to the music.

Life is short.

It's just a workout.

Let's not take it that seriously.

And with that being said, you had 30 minutes today.

You chose to spend that time with me.

I'll be damned if I waste your time.

So that's, that's my outlook on it.

I love it.

Okay, so let's talk about the book that you wrote, of course, called Speak, which is now like a New York Times bestseller, right?

Yeah, really incredible.

Really incredible.

That's amazing.

So what made you decide to write a book now?

And like, yeah, let's start with that.

Like what made you like now, or not now, but when you did it a year ago or whenever it started?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, I said in the third grade that I wanted to write a book.

I said that I wanted to write a book in the third grade.

And that the moment has arrived now.

I think that my life and my story, it's filled with so much uncertainty.

So much uncertainty.

I think the last two years for so many people has been filled with so much uncertainty.

I think the beautiful thing about uncertainty is that it leads you to infinite possibility.

When you don't know what's next, you don't know what's next.

And so then anything can be next.

And so knowing what you know keeps you knowing only what you know.

If my story, if my experience can be a guide, an example,

for anyone going through the shit that they're going through, then please allow my story to be the example uh uh to to aid you in wherever you are within your journey i think that we're all very different people humans we're all different i think that we're more alike than we are different and when we're vulnerable enough to share our stories then we see the common threads then we see uh

what connects us that we really are um a lot more alike than we are different.

And so that's why the book, That's Why Now.

I like the the sentence that you put, the beauty of uncertainty is infinite possibility, which is so, it's such a true statement.

And I love that you write, wrote that.

The book also isn't linear, right?

Like, you know, I kind of feel like when, when you meet somebody, like, you know, you meet a friend, you don't tell them, okay, first when I was six, I did this.

And then at eight, I did that.

Like you meet and you, your life kind of plays itself out as it goes.

And I feel like with the book, it was very similar to that.

It wasn't like super linear, right?

When you wrote the book uh which is kind of i feel like how life really is too right

uh and so but you've had a lot of like you you had your own weight loss struggle you had a lot of loss in your life it sounds to me like your book was super

you kind of were very vulnerable in your book and i wanted to kind of talk to you about your your whole evolution weight loss and how you kind of found confidence and how you help what how do you tell people that they can kind of go on that journey for confidence like you know know, how do they,

how do they kind of build their own self-confidence?

Yeah, I think that, you know, you hear, you see someone and you assume that because they're happier, because they're full of joy, that life has just been peachy.

You see someone that's a fitness instructor and you assume that either A, they've always been fit or they've always been fit and they really enjoy working out like they.

And I wanted to share in my story within the book that my resilience is in response to trauma.

My resilience is in response to

trauma.

I lost my little brother when he was 19 years old.

And then three years after that, I lost my dad.

And then three years after that, I lost my mother all very unexpectedly.

I lost half of my immediate family members within six years.

And so I,

although I would do anything to have any one of them back, I am who I am today

because of my experience.

Specifically, to speak to the weight loss that you mentioned, I grew up overweight, was made fun of as a kid, all the things.

I,

in many ways, held my value to other people's opinion of me.

I held my self-worth to what other people thought of me.

And so, you know, I was very much, if anybody's taking my classes, I dance a lot somehow clipped into a bike.

I didn't dance then because I didn't want to dance, because if I felt like I did that, then people would see me.

And then if they saw me, I felt like they would notice my size.

I didn't laugh loud

because I felt like if I laughed out loud, again, I'd get attention and then people would see that I was in the room and then they'd see my size.

And so I did so many things to minimize myself.

I shrunk myself to fit in this tiny space that I felt like I needed to be in to fit in.

And so

I, when I finally lost the weight,

actually, many years after I lost the weight, I had this

self-thought reflection.

And I said to myself, you know, for so many years, this is after losing the weights.

For so many years, I felt like the world had finally accepted me.

People had accepted me because I was skinny, is what I told myself.

So now they like me.

And then after much time and reflection, I realized people didn't like me because

I looked like them.

People were gravitating towards me because I was finally showing them who I was.

I was finally comfortable in myself to show them who I was.

And so if I was going to do all of this again, yes, I would have still found wellness.

I would have still gotten healthy, but I would have loved myself before,

during, and after.

I wouldn't have waited till I lost the weight to find my confidence.

I wouldn't have waited till I lost the weight to show people who I really was.

I think that so many people can

relate to that story.

Maybe it's weight loss.

Maybe it's not.

But I think that so often we shrink ourselves to become these characters, to play this role that we think that we need to, to be accepted,

to be not categorized as other.

I mean, that, yes, I think that's very true.

I also think though, when someone does, when you lose weight, right, I think there's a, that's a byproduct of a lot of different things that happen from that point, right?

Because then you feel, when you feel more physically confident, you feel more mentally confident and it kind of works hand in hand.

So, you know,

it's not necessarily like, so people feel more comfortable being their more authentic self, I feel, right?

When they have more confidence.

And I think when you do have that weight loss, it does breed that sense of confidence, right?

Like, what was the catalyst for you to even start the weight loss process?

And what did you do?

What was the first thing that you did?

Like, what was the process for you?

Yeah,

I think that, I mean, I will say I think that you can be confident at any size.

I don't think that weight loss, I don't think that confidence looks a certain size.

And that's the connection and correlation that I didn't make before.

I think that when you work out, there's obviously the adrenaline that comes with it.

Sweat is good for your mental state.

I wish that I just focused on movement versus a gene size.

I wish that I'd focus on lifting weights, feeling strong, getting on a bike and moving versus trying to look like the popular girl.

And so for me,

it was that click, it was that connector that not only

I thought I was gaining confidence when I lost the weight for sure, but I think that what's kept me in this journey is that feeling.

I come back to that feeling because I like feeling strong in my body.

Does that make sense?

Oh, absolutely.

It makes perfect sense.

But I mean, yeah, I mean, it makes perfect sense.

But I feel like it's in that process where people

start to shine and have the confidence because what also I feel happens is you're seeing yourself,

you're putting yourself in a situation that you're winning at, right?

Like you're every day, you're like working towards something, you're showing yourself getting more strong, more fit, more, you know,

you move more.

I think the process of you actually showing up and doing something for yourself that's good gives you confidence.

Totally.

It's not the number on the scale.

Right.

It's the process.

You know, years ago, I had this weight loss show where we had these couples who would all basically whoever, whatever couple lost the most weight would win their dream wedding, right?

This was on the CW like 10 years ago.

And in the process of that happening in the show, it was...

It wasn't so much about like the number that they were losing that made them confident.

But in that process, they were like changing their careers.

They were quitting their jobs.

They were like really becoming the real versions of who they really wanted to be because they saw themselves succeeding in something.

It was them like actually succeeding that kind of changed their, I guess, their brain, their brain chemistry, right?

Like it was the neuroplasticity was changing.

And so I'm a big believer, if you just actually do something to actually make that change for yourself, that gives you the empowerment like to

for confidence as well.

Right.

Right.

I agree with that.

I agree with that.

Yeah.

So you asked a question a second ago.

So what exactly was that catalyst?

They talk about the book, Your Mom Made That Dress for You That was like she did the two dresses, which I don't know.

I don't know.

Was that the catalyst for you to go on this weight loss journey?

And like, how did you start?

I mean, what like when other people, like would people listen

to kind of just usually the hardest part for people is just in the start, right?

So what did you do and what can other people do?

Yeah, I mean,

in order to begin this type of journey, you have to want to do it for yourself, period.

You set out to do it for somebody else.

And then if that relationship is, there's a disconnect in that relationship, then you no longer show up because you were showing up for them, not for yourself.

For me, I was supposed to be a bridesmaid in my aunt's shredding, which is the story you're alluding to.

Go to the bridesmaid store or the dress shop store.

Dress doesn't come in my size.

I had this moment where I broke down.

My mother asked me what was wrong.

And I said, you know, if I do wear a different dress than the bridesmaids, even if my dress is prettier, because I didn't have to wear the hideous dress everybody else was supposed to wear, everyone would know that I was the one that couldn't fit into the dress.

And it was almost as then as if that was going to be the giveaway.

Like, because I've been trying to hide, trying to hide, trying to hide.

And now you see me walking down the aisle in a different dress.

And then there's the elephant in the room.

Like everyone would know.

You know, my mom did end up buying two dresses, sewing one dress together for me

so that I wouldn't look different.

And she said to me, said something to me in that moment, my mother had never said anything about my size, always made me feel like I was the most beautiful girl on the planet.

And she said to me in that moment, Yay Tune, if you want to change things up, you have to make changes.

And I think that was her way of empowering me

to take this into my own hands, that I owned this.

And so I started moving.

And to your point, you know, people always ask, well, what's the best advice?

I think give yourself, start with bite-sized chews.

You have to feel like you're winning to continue to do it.

If you set out and say, I'm going to start working out, I'm going to work out six days a week and work out an hour every single day.

If you haven't worked out in five years, that's a lofty goal, a lofty task.

Start by saying, I'm going to do five minutes of stretching.

Do five minutes of stretching.

Work your way up to 10 minutes of a brisk walk.

And then, you know, start to add on from there.

But when you give yourself these chews that you swallow and you feel like you're winning,

then you're emboldened to show up and do it again the next day because it feels good.

I think to the point that you were making earlier.

No, I think that's a great, that's great advice.

Why did you call the book speak?

I mean,

is it just, you say, find, find your voice, trust your gut.

It stands for something.

Can we talk about that and why you decided to call it that?

Sure.

Speak is an acronym, surrender, power, empathy, authenticity, and knowledge.

I looked at those five words as elements and how they show up in my life.

When I surrender, it results in growth, growth that leads to change.

I speak to power in the book as like this drumbeat, this thing that I feel when I know that I'm doing the thing that I'm supposed to do.

The thing that you know that you're here.

to do.

When you're moving in that, doing that, you're moving and you can feel your power.

Empathy is rooted in love.

Not just love for others, but self-love.

If I don't know how to love me,

how can I love you?

Authenticity is the intersection of truth and trust.

When you trust yourself enough to show up as you truly are, daring to have the audacity to show up as you are.

And then lastly, knowledge.

Echoes of the past.

inform the future.

Every experience, every misstep, every opportunity all of the trauma all of the hurt all of the wins you use all of that to move you and guide you into the next space

speak surrender power empathy authentic i love that

i love that and you felt like you said that you kind of always you once you kind of had this you started you had it what you tried your first spin class in la just because there was the the gym in the in the hotel was terrible or something and then you knew that was your calling.

But, you know, what I want to talk, I wanted you to talk about how the resilience and like about resilience and about this, you didn't necessarily, it took you a year to get the job on Peloton, right?

Like you didn't get it right away.

And it was, can you, is this a, do you hear?

Okay, yeah.

I wasn't sure because you, you froze for a second.

We froze for a second, but you're back.

Yeah.

Okay, good.

Good, good, good.

I want to talk about that because a lot of times it's people think that when they didn't get something, then that's it.

They're, you know, it's, it's, it's over for them.

But a lot of times that's not, that could just be the beginning of the path.

And so it's why I love that.

I'm actually, I love that you didn't get it because the fact that you got it a year later and became so popular and like, obviously you were meant for this is just kind of just proof that that people should not be just giving up on their first chance.

So, I mean, it's amazing.

So talk about that a little bit.

Yeah.

So I was actually, I lived in LA at the time and I was in New York.

I was a makeup artist at the time.

So I was in New York on a, on a makeup gig,

had a cycling class or went to a cycling class that changed my life.

After my very first cycling class,

I had what I call this blue light vision, this divine download of information, where within a five seconds, I felt this wave of blue energy move through my body.

And I knew that I, again, after my very first cycling class, I knew that I'd be cycling for the rest of my life.

I knew that I'd be teaching it.

And I was most certain that I'd be teaching it on the world's biggest platform, able to touch hundreds of thousands of millions of people.

I didn't even know what Peloton was at the time, but I believed what I saw to be certain.

And so, you know, I get it.

What was it about it?

By the way, what was it?

Like, what was it like that that just kind of impacted you so much?

What was it?

What part of the experience were you like, oh my God, this is going going to be my, my, my future?

What was it about the cycling experience or the business?

Yeah, like what was, but both?

Like, what, how did, because you were a makeup, you were a very successful makeup artist.

Like, how did you, why did you not think that was your path?

Like, why did you think the Pelleg?

Well, I was in this space of uncertainty.

I mean, everybody had this dream job and you worked so hard for this dream job.

And then when it feels like your dream job is not it anymore, it almost feels like a breakup.

You're so, you're confused.

You thought that you were meant for each other.

And so I was living this, you know, from the outside looking in, this incredible job.

Other people would have killed for the job I had.

I would have killed for it.

That's okay.

Other people would have killed for the job I had.

I would have killed for the job that I had.

And then I woke up one day and realized I hate this.

And so I'm in this space of uncertainty.

I'm in New York in this cycling class.

I'm in this state of euphoria.

Moving meditation is what I call it.

You know, I think some people may have that connection to running, where it just feels like you're so connected, so aware, and finally so present.

We spend so much of our day not present, finally so present.

In this class, I was so present.

I was so awake.

Everything felt aligned, clear.

And so I'm out of this class now, having what I call, again, this blue light vision.

Most certain that this is what I'm supposed to be be doing.

More certain than I've ever been about anything in my entire life.

And so

I

believed it to be true.

And then I got back to LA, imposter syndrome set in.

Imposter syndrome said, you don't look like, sound like, move like, talk like, motivate like an instructor.

You couldn't be an instructor.

So I went through that whole battle for like eight months before I finally went and got certified, auditioned at a mom and pop studio, was working there some maybe three months when I get

an Instagram DM from this guy, Cody Rigsby, who says he's one of the leads at Peloton.

I should come out on audition, auditioned, left.

He told me it was one of the best auditions he'd ever seen.

A month later, I get an email that says, we regret to inform you.

We won't be moving forward.

And so, yeah, I was devastated, heartbroken, all the things.

I'd have this vision.

I was so certain.

And then out of this blue, this guy DMs me, this guy who could change my life.

I didn't ask to audition.

Everything's adding up.

Everything's in line and moving in motion with what I saw to be mine.

I auditioned.

He told me I was amazing.

Then I get this, the information that they won't be moving forward.

By the way, I don't even understand.

If you had a great audition, why did you not get the job initially?

It wasn't, there was a vote.

There was a vote.

And so every person on the boat had to say forward, to say yes, move forward.

I will say that

there was shift in alignment.

And so the people that had said no had exited the company.

And so Cody came when our new leadership came in, Cody said, hey, watch this tape.

And they said, you know, basically, why is this girl not here?

Call her back, went back, auditioned, and then got the job the second time around.

I think that, you know, I went through this really, really dark phase where it felt like another great loss.

As I mentioned, I know trauma way too well.

And so it felt like another loss in my life, not because I didn't get a job, but because something that I believed with certainty was not realized and so I was in this dark space until I moved out of it and I reminded myself that I truly believe that

everything

in life is happening for me and nothing is happening to me everything in life is happening for me and nothing's happening to me and if I didn't get the job then I wasn't supposed to get the job and that was happening for me somehow and I would see it later you know and I am so grateful now just kind of like you just mentioned I'm so grateful that I didn't get the job the first time around I think that I started

at the right time.

I don't know that we'd be having this conversation.

I don't think that I'd be in this space

if I'd started any sooner than I did.

I think I arrived at the exact right moment.

And now, to kind of circle back to where we started with this, is,

yeah, it's so hard

to

see the why

when you're in it.

But then, whenever you meet

the destination and I say that in air quotes because we never really meet the destination we're always working

whenever you meet that point you're able to turn around look at look behind you and you get to see all the breadcrumbs and then you start to connect all the points and the dots and you realize that each point within the story had value, had meaning.

Meaning, whether this is doubt or uncertainty that you're you're having about your job, like me,

or not getting a job, or a relationship, a relationship with a friend, a relationship with your partner, when you're in the thick of it, the trauma of it, if you will, oftentimes

when we get to the destination, when we find our way out of it, we forget to look back and reflect on all the necessary points, the ups and downs, the missed opportunities that led us here.

I think that when you're able to do that, to have gratitude for all the missteps, then when you find yourself in a space of opportunity or uncertainty again,

you remember, you go back to data.

Data, my life's data shows me that I always make it through everything.

As my teammate, head instructor Robin Arizona always says, you've made it through 100% of your bad days.

And when I

make it through the other side of it, it's important to reflect so that again, when you find yourself in a similar space,

again,

you're able to recall data.

Data shows me that I make it through tough shit.

Data shows me that I'm resilient.

Data shows me that this is working in my favor.

And I'm not, I'm not, I don't see it right now.

And I don't actually have to because it's not for me to, to know yet.

But I'll know it soon.

I trust in that.

That's, I mean, where do you get this,

where did that, that whole, it's happening for for me, not to me, that kind of mindset, where is that from?

Have you always just been like that?

Or is it just over time and what you've lost and life kind of shifted you to there?

Yeah, I think all of it.

I think that I knew pieces of it then,

but didn't realize that I knew pieces of it then, echoes of the past inform the future.

When I reflect now, I think I've always

had this mindset, but maybe wasn't able to necessarily articulate it like I mentioned before I would do anything to get to be with any one of my loved ones even for a moment I would do anything give up anything to have 30 seconds with them a second with them and still I know that I stepped into this version of myself the greatest version of myself and losing them I realize how

valuable how much value there is in each breath, in each step, in each day, in each moment.

Even the days that suck are precious because there's value in it because i got to have that day i got to have that day but that that type of uh outlook and that type of mindset it's that that's something that feels like it's been it has to

like how do people who they don't feel that way where how do they get to that place right because it's like you are you you seem to have a lot of wisdom and you're young.

I mean, who do you look to for like wisdom or what books do you read?

Or who do you ride Peloton with like what do you do

who do you find to be I think a lot of it my mindset a lot of it comes from my mother just my upbringing

when I'm in doubt I remember to speak surrender power empathy authenticity and knowledge every single time I surrender like really really really let go change comes in when I am connected to my power I think that power is purpose purpose is

living a life of service, in purpose, on purpose, of purpose.

When I lead with empathy, love for people, when I can let go of a situation because I have love for myself, when I'm true to myself, when I use all of the things that I've collected,

I'm able to get from one space to the next.

Be find your voice, trust your gut, get from where you are to where you want to be.

I ask myself,

how do I allow myself to let go when I'm in those moments?

How do I allow myself to let go?

I'm not in control.

I didn't get to control what happened, but I do get to control how I react.

I think for me,

it's that piece.

It's that piece.

Okay, this has all been great.

So basically, why don't you, this was, thank you for being on the podcast.

And why don't we just kind of wrap it up and you tell us where people can find you besides Peloton, of course, because we all know we can find you there.

By the way, are you ever going to be doing like Peloton treadmills?

Are you basically Peloton bike and the strength training?

Is there any kind of crossover for people who like like the treadmill, not just the bike?

Yeah, I teach bike and I teach boot camp and strength classes.

Look, if somebody wants to get up on the tread and run for me, I will gladly teach.

I never say never, but right now I'm

good.

I have a really interesting relationship with running.

I hate the idea of running.

And then the second it's over, every single time, Joan, I'm like,

I felt so good.

I feel so great.

And so, yeah, I think that I'm just going to leave running right now this chapter of my life.

I'm going to leave that as my

outlet

and not and not let that feel like

work yet.

So we'll see.

I'll TB, TBD.

Okay, okay, good.

Good, good, good.

Cause that's my thing.

I love the running.

So I had to ask at least, right?

Oh, well, I have a, I hosted the Peloton podcast, which is called Fitness Flipped.

If you download, this is like, you can take this out or leave it, but it's a Peloton app.

And you can, so the podcast is like a moving podcast.

So I'm talking, interviewing different celebrity guests, and you can walk and like get points for walking while you're, or run while you're listening to the podcast, which is really cool because then, yeah, 30 minutes goes by so fast and you forget you were working out because you were listening to insight from whichever guest was on.

So shameless plot, but.

It's not a shameless plot.

I actually, I love it.

I just wrote that down.

I didn't know you even had that.

That's perfect.

Yeah.

I love that.

Okay.

So where else can people find you?

What else are you doing?

Are you doing anything with Nike?

Are you doing anything else that people can find you with?

I know you, or make up, I know you have a lot of great, like great

endorsements and sponsors, but is there anything with Nike?

Are you a master trainer with them?

I'm a Nike athlete.

I'm their first instructor to ever be named Nike athlete, which is like when I say wildest dreams come true, like I wouldn't even have even dreamt.

for that because it was so outside of the scope of what I even thought was possible.

So that's really exciting.

One of the cases of Revlon, which is really incredible.

But you guys can find me at speaktuneday.com or at tune two, the number two, tune day, tune to tundo day.

I should be on Twitter and the TikTok and all the things that Gen Z does.

But I'm like, I'm a work in progress.

And right now, Instagram and kind of Facebook is what I do sometimes.

I love it.

That's a lot.

It's a good, that's a full-time job right there.

Hey, isn't it?

Oh my God.

Is it ever?

Do you do the Instagram and all that?

Of course.

I do a lot of Instagram.

I'm on TikTok.

But mostly Instagram is like my heart like is the one I'm like super strong on.

Facebook, I just can't even bother.

I mean, I have, I'm just too busy.

I have that now with the YouTube.

I mean, every day there's a new platform that people are like, you have to be doing, you got to be going on there.

I like just started with the TikTok like four or five months ago.

And, you know, thankfully it's going okay.

But like.

I got to tell you, like each one of these, like each vertical takes up an enormous amount of time.

Right.

Right.

So it's a lot.

It's a lot.

it's a lot you know and with your book tour are you almost done with all of this because i mean i'm sure you're on the book tour yeah we just wrapped on the book tour it was incredible like insanely incredible to meet all the people well many of the people on the other side of the screen and so rewarding like i felt like so

it's nourished nourished oh absolutely because of it people like truly like love you i mean it's it's a great thing oh i wanted to ask you how many people can you actually see when you're doing your peloton like do you how many people physically are you able to see because you probably like their face it yeah their faces nobody nobody at all right like because there are other places now i'm always so concerned that i can see them when i'm teaching class if you were in a live class i could see your stats but i i have no time to do that i can't breathe i'm sweating and there's sweat in my eye and i'm trying to like talk and tell

tell people what's next.

I have to like push buttons and do all of that to see what anybody's doing.

Nobody has time for that.

So nobody's looking at your stuff.

What's amazing to me, nobody, you like everyone knows you, but you don't know anybody.

So, which is so crazy to me, right?

It is, but I do.

It's wild.

I mean, I think that the members understand it.

Like, there's such a connectivity.

I've seen people that are not only best friends, there have been people that have met on the leaderboard and literally gotten married.

There are people that fly

and have meetups

annually, a few times a year, even.

it's,

we ride together, but truly, we're not alone.

Like, there, it's called connected fitness for a reason.

There's so much connected, connectivity in it.

When I left the mom-and-pop studio in LA to work for Peloton, that's what I was most fearful of, that I would not be able to connect.

And that's why I got into this business.

And I was wildly, um, I was proven wrong.

I was proven wrong.

Yeah, there's so much connection.

You'd be, you'd be amazed.

It is.

No, I'm not.

I am amazed actually because i like i said everyone in my life is like addicted to peloton but me so it's amazing that this is even ironic that i'm doing this interview with you so i i'm excited that you on there i know i know i have been doing the strength training a little bits here and there but um okay i i'm more about the treadmill and about hardcore weights and but i will now that i have now that we did this i'm i'm now like drawn to try this class a class of yours so there you go there we go you converted to another person there you go yay Maybe the next time you stay at a hotel, you'll see a bike, or maybe you'll go to your, your neighbor's house and ask her to use her bike.

I have a bike.

What are you talking about?

I mean, oh my gosh, woman.

Yeah.

Get on there.

There's no excuse.

There's no excuse, honestly.

Yeah.

So, no, no, no.

There's no excuse.

So I know you got to wrap it.

So I will talk to you later or I'll see you later or talk later.

But again, it was a pleasure meeting you.

Thank you for being on the podcast.

And like I said, I really enjoyed reading your book and even getting to know you, even though I don't really know you.

But you know, thank you.

Thanks for taking the time to read it.

Thanks so much for having me on.

And everybody, thanks for listening.

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