Episode 503: Anthony William: Heavy Metals, Brain Fog, and The Voice That Guides Him

Speaker 1 Hi, guys. It's Tony Robbins.
You're listening to Habits and Hustle, Gresham.

Speaker 2 We have the medical medium, otherwise known as Anthony Williams. Thank you for being here.

Speaker 1 Oh, you got to take the S off, my Williams. Oh, sorry.

Speaker 1 Sorry, Anthony William. You're right.
Anthony William. Easy mistake.
Made all the time.

Speaker 2 It's a very easy mistake. Thank you for forgiving me so easily.

Speaker 2 You are so interesting. I mean, guys, if you don't know who Anthony is or aka the medical medium, this will be a really interesting podcast for you.
He is very controversial.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I would say controversial, very polarizing.

Speaker 1 People either love you or freaking hate me

Speaker 1 so much. They want me dead.

Speaker 1 Do what?

Speaker 2 Like they don't, there's a big extreme.

Speaker 1 I mean, I had a debt threat yesterday. I mean, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 Right before I did the Barnes and Noble book signing, I was there and a ton of people showed up and everything right before you know we did it i was getting out of the car and stuff and all of a sudden my team's like boom another death threat and i'm like great

Speaker 1 you know and i'm like i'm like don't worry about it guys let's just get this done they're like okay don't worry about it really why do you think that is like why do you think people are you know you're just you're just not allowed to like heal a lot of people, right?

Speaker 1 Like millions of people worldwide.

Speaker 1 It's, there's a big difference between like, there's a big difference between a dude who's a practitioner or an influencer or, you know, a doctor or healer, whatever they are.

Speaker 1 And they get one or two people better and then they shout it from the rooftops. It's just like, I got this case better.
I got this case better.

Speaker 1 And they want pub on it and they want, you know, media on it and they're freaking out because they got two people better.

Speaker 1 We're talking about tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands in the millions of being in wheelchairs, then walking finally.

Speaker 1 Being on mattress island, a medical medium term, mattress island, where you're just sick, chronically ill, and you're in bed, and you're in bed for 10 years.

Speaker 1 You get like two hours a day out of bed and you heal because this information is so powerful. You're not allowed to get too many people better in this world.
Bottom line, period.

Speaker 1 If you do, you're going to get some hate. And that's just the way it is, you know, plus the topics I talk about.
You know, it's right now, you know how the political thing is so big.

Speaker 1 It's just political is just pounding the media, right? you got the dems the repubs conservatives right they're just they're just going at it right

Speaker 1 well

Speaker 1 the thing is is with medical medium information i hit stuff like getting your blood drawn you know blood test how they're not good for you and why and and how to do it properly and that stuff pisses people off that's an entirely different types of cont you know type of controversial way different than just what's being pounded on the media right now and so when people hear that stuff they instantly go you know fuck you.

Speaker 1 I'm getting, what's he saying? Don't get your blood tested. Don't get your blood work.
This guy's bad. You know, he's bad.
Meanwhile, no, just listen to the information.

Speaker 1 Learn what I'm talking about and protect yourself. Save your life.
Save your own life. So I think a lot of misinformation, a lot of confusion makes it difficult.

Speaker 1 But, you know, and then I broke the chemtrail thing many years ago, got censored because of it, fought through censorship, fought through it.

Speaker 1 It's like, I piss a lot of people off by just breaking things early the whole fragrance thing air fresheners scented candles right all of that that's all my doing to actually get that information out there and when i first started working on hammering that information out there about how toxic it is people got angry because everybody was doing like self-care with their scented candles and when covet came everybody was doing their scented candles and lighting their all their friends coming over and they had it on the coffee table and in the kitchen and the minute they hear me going that stuff is so bad for you you have no idea what that's doing to you they're like i hate this guy i hate him this is for my mental healthy scented candles so you know the con the controversy's there you either love me and you realize oh yeah you're right the scented candles are probably killing me i love this guy or you're not going to take my scented candles away buddy i they're good for my self-care and i hate you so it's in these i'm just giving you a couple of examples no but those we can even go into deeper nitty-gritty but we'll talk about i want to go into the nitty-gritty

Speaker 2 You just said a couple of things, and people are probably curious what you're talking about. So talk about the blood tests.
Why are blood tests not good for you?

Speaker 1 What happens is the reason why somebody's sick, and this is critical to know, is because they have an immune system problem.

Speaker 1 No matter what it is, no matter what it is, if they're sick, their immune system is struggling. And they go and get the blood work.

Speaker 1 You know, they get the blood drawn, but their immune system that they need to protect them so they don't get sicker is leaving their body in the vials of blood that's being drawn, right?

Speaker 1 And then the alternative health movement. Now, here's a reason why I'm hated too.
This is great.

Speaker 1 The alternative health movement in the last, I'd say, six years, maybe seven years, went to this whole, your immune system is in your gut, right? Your immune system is in your gut.

Speaker 1 Did you ever hear that before? A million times. Million times, but it's wrong.
Really? It's wrong. It's dead wrong.
And dead wrong. How? You have some immune system in your gut, some.

Speaker 1 And then they also try to make you think it's all in your intestinal tract. Your immune system is in your intestinal tract.
No, it's not. It's in your bloodstream.

Speaker 1 That's where it is, circulating throughout your whole body, trying to stop brain infections all the time, trying to stop you from getting sepsis. Your immune system is in your freaking bloodstream.

Speaker 1 The reason why the immune system talk came to be where it's in your gut is because of the probiotic companies, because of the money poured into all of that and the advertising and the money, and the

Speaker 1 promotion, and the campaigns for the whole probiotic movement to explode. They came to this decision universally that it only makes sense if probiotics are helping your gut.

Speaker 1 They're helping your immune system. Your immune system's in your gut.
This whole thing developed from this, right? But it was wrong. Immune system's in your bloodstream.

Speaker 1 Yes, you've got some in your gut. Yes, your lymphocytes in your lymphatic system.
Yes, you've got different areas, but it's not like people think.

Speaker 1 And so you die quickly or even die slowly when you're getting your blood drawn. So you have to be really careful, especially if you're sick.

Speaker 1 If you're somebody with lupus, you're somebody with MS, you're somebody with ALS, you're somebody with Lyme disease, neurological Lyme disease.

Speaker 1 Keep on getting that blood work and you're just going to be like,

Speaker 1 that's it. Until you're done, until you're bedridden, until you're on Mattress Island now and sicker than ever.

Speaker 1 Because the sicker you get when you're getting that blood drawn, you're going to go to another doctor and get more blood drawn. We don't know why you're sick.
We got to send you to a specialist now.

Speaker 1 Let's draw more blood. You see? And now it's the trap.
It's the trap of all time. And so when people hear this, they're like, the guy's anti-blood testing.
He's a bad guy. Don't listen to this guy.

Speaker 1 And then you get hate for it. But really, the reality is.
you know, you're hurting yourself, but you got to know how not to hurt yourself.

Speaker 1 Pregnant women are getting five, seven vials, 10 vials drawn from them periodically, right? Every trimester. They're getting it drawn from them while they got a baby in them.

Speaker 1 And that baby could be getting hemorrhagic shock from getting blood drawn and they don't even know it, like mild hemorrhagic shock. And that's happening every day.

Speaker 1 So pregnant women should not get their blood drawn. And if they do, it should be a baby's vial and a quarter vial.

Speaker 1 And then if they need another one, then another baby size vial, quarter vial they should get.

Speaker 1 But they shouldn't just keep on giving out their their precious, viable, vital resource and just throwing it away. And the industry doesn't even need that much blood.
And that's a whole nother story.

Speaker 1 I mean, we could be here all day talking about blood draw, but the immune system, you're sick, you got thyroid problems? No. No blood draw like the way they want it.
No way.

Speaker 1 Don't just be like, fine, you know, go ahead, boom, pouring that stuff out. Then you're sick.
You go to another doctor. They're pouring it out.
Don't do that.

Speaker 1 Because if you do that, you're going to get sicker and sicker and sicker and and end up bedridden or in some early grave or whatever.

Speaker 1 It's going to happen to you and it happens to people every single day. Cancer, they take blood from them non-stop.
Cancer, people with cancer, just keep on pulling it from them, pulling it from them.

Speaker 1 And it's ridiculous to what, how it works. And cancer, you're fighting cancer.
Your immune system is struggling. So let's keep on removing your immune system.
Let's do that.

Speaker 1 you know and that's what people don't realize so the system's crooked it's bent it's busted and they need to actually start doing it right.

Speaker 1 They take a little bit of blood and you can get everything you ever wanted from a little bit of blood. A drop of blood, you can get whatever you want.
Right.

Speaker 2 So then why is it that you're, when I go to the doctor, they are taking like 20,000 vials of body?

Speaker 1 Because they're stealing the blood. The doctor isn't, but the industry is.
They're stealing the blood. Where are they putting it? Exactly.
You'll never know. Nobody does.
That's the problem.

Speaker 2 Nobody does. I do get like, it's an exorbitant amount of blood all the time.

Speaker 1 And you know what?

Speaker 1 You're going to be kicked down another six six month in your health six months a year in your health and you don't even know it you might develop more symptoms more conditions a year later because you're getting all that blood because it's just it and it could be slow could be slow where you get the blood drawn you're not going to experience those problems yet but then it comes a year later because your immune system was removed parts of it removed your epstein bar started coming up by the way you got epstein bar your epstein bar started rising

Speaker 1 yeah you do your epstein bar started rising up somebody's epstein is rising up, and then we get in trouble.

Speaker 2 What's Epstein-Barr? Exactly.

Speaker 1 It's a virus. It's a virus that almost everybody has, but Epstein-Barr causing problems.
And, you know, like your thyroid, that's what's going to happen with your thyroid down the road.

Speaker 1 You're going to have this Epstein-Barr problem, thyroid, and all that stuff. It's going to start kicking in.

Speaker 2 Is it dangerous?

Speaker 1 I mean, it can be for some people. It causes a lot of illnesses, causes a lot of problems.
There's different varieties of Epstein-Barr, but that's the thing. There's all these women out there.

Speaker 1 They're losing all their blood. They're They're giving it away.
It's getting taken away. Wait, hold on.

Speaker 2 I have Epstein-Barr?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, you do.

Speaker 2 You're laughing about it. Is that date?

Speaker 1 No, no, it's nothing to nothing to panic about. Nothing to panic about.

Speaker 1 How do you know?

Speaker 2 By looking at me?

Speaker 1 I know, I know. But

Speaker 2 what does that mean? Like, what does that mean I have? Like, can we have symptoms? Like, why, how?

Speaker 1 It means if you keep on getting blood, because we're on this blood drawer. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 If you keep on, like, unloading that blood to that degree, not being cautious, not being like really careful telling your doctor look you phlebotomist look just take take two quarter vials get what you can you know a month from now we'll do another two quarter vials are you allowed to say that to people of course you are of course you are because you can put your foot down and be like that's the way to do it that's it because if someone's a healthy person right yeah going to the doctor to get their blood drawn yeah nothing really happens to them it's for the people who have like ill like real severe illnesses when they get their blood drawn is what you're saying is what's dangerous it's dangerous for everybody.

Speaker 1 Everybody. But

Speaker 1 because you could be somebody that's 40 years old, 45 years old, you're not quite sick yet with too many things. You've had a couple of couple of things in the way, some symptoms here and there.

Speaker 1 And then you're like 46 or something. You've had a lot of blood drawn.
You're getting all kinds of tests

Speaker 1 that year. And then boom, now you're like, I can't function.
I got brain fog. I got fatigue.
I'm going to this guy. I'm going to this herbalist.
I'm going to this practitioner, this healer.

Speaker 1 I'm getting this done, that done. And then it's like, what's going on here? And And then you end up getting a diagnosis of some kind, like autoimmune.

Speaker 1 The more blood you get drawn, the more chances you're going to get an autoimmune diagnosis.

Speaker 1 If you have an autoimmune diagnosis, you're already getting blood drawn because they're monitoring your autoimmune diagnosis.

Speaker 1 Now you're getting worse autoimmune as you go along and worse autoimmune as you go along. It's the biggest trap: the blood draw problem.
Wow.

Speaker 2 That's incredible.

Speaker 2 Tell me, is everybody.

Speaker 1 And here's what's here's another thing. I'm the only one that broke this story.

Speaker 1 i'm the only one that broke this truth and that's why i'm hated that's why now you're gonna see maybe five years from now just like so much of medical medium information came to town and it's like natural flavors we were talking about earlier you know mm info we like i got it out there now all of a sudden companies are like we have no natural flavors in our product you'll see that we got no this in our product And, you know, it's MM Info that did that, just like fruit fear.

Speaker 1 Everybody's eating fruit again. That's medical medium work.
That was medical medium hardship, fighting the fruit fear in the health movement where fruit was demonic. It was evil.
It was sugary.

Speaker 1 You eat fruit, you're going to get cancer. And there was that whole story about fruit all those years in the health movement.

Speaker 1 And it took like blood, sweat, tears, medical medium info to break it and shut that down. Now, the carnivore dudes are doing fruit every day with their meat.
Everybody's doing fruit.

Speaker 1 It was like, I love fruit. Every, you know, that's how it is.
It's, it's kind of like that. But

Speaker 1 the blood draw thing is going to be big. It's going to get real big.
And then if the tide is going to turn and people are going to be really aware of it.

Speaker 1 And all you're going to hear is quarter vial, quarter vial. I went to my doctor, asked for a quarter vial.
I don't want all my immune system removed from me. MM info.

Speaker 1 And you're going to hear that pretty soon. But to get me to that point, to get to that point, it took a lot of bashings and beatings and censorship

Speaker 1 and hate you know happens along the way you know being a pioneer that's what you get and then it all comes out later right give me another one besides okay we talked about the blood tell me one other thing that is like on the cusp that has that's kind of not known yet but is on that precedent where what the chemtrails really are what is that so here's how it works okay you've got in the 1960s the world was getting trashed by chemicals because chemical factories and the chemical industry, they were releasing it into the oceans, releasing it into the rivers, into the lakes, and everything was dying.

Speaker 1 That's what was happening. Wow, yeah.
And landfills, too.

Speaker 1 So they couldn't keep that up, but they needed to produce more chemicals and more chemicals.

Speaker 1 There are millions of chemicals produced every year, like like chemicals that aren't even used where it's just, you know, testing and, you know, let's test this chemical. Let's try this chemical.

Speaker 1 Let's, you know, all that. Let's develop another chemical.
And then there's a byproduct of that chemical, but they have nowhere to put it. But what's interesting is, where's it all going?

Speaker 1 They're not dumping all those chemicals in the lakes and the rivers and the oceans anymore and the landfills. They did, it's way more chemicals than they ever had in the 60s, 50s, 40s, and 30s.
See?

Speaker 1 Where is it going when there's more than ever before being produced? And so I released this information about chemtrails.

Speaker 1 What's happening is there's a deal brokered, private deal, obviously, and all these chemicals are being pumped into trucks, brought to planes, filled up with containers in the planes, not in their gas tanks, you know, like people think.

Speaker 1 Right. Put up in the sky and dropped on as slowly.
So you have these chemtrail planes. But right now, we're in this baby stage.
The baby stage is geoengineering.

Speaker 1 So you'll hear right now, like, you know, the EPA talks about we're looking into, we're looking into geoengineering. And you see out there, there's some political figures.

Speaker 1 We're looking into geoengineering. It's way bigger than that.
We have years and years, decades of chemicals being loaded into trucks, loaded into planes, and dropped on everybody slowly.

Speaker 1 That's how they're getting rid of it. Where are they dropping it? Within 20 years from now, we may know this by then.

Speaker 2 But wait, where are they dropping it? Where?

Speaker 1 Just everywhere on everybody worldwide.

Speaker 1 It's just being dropped it's a different way of getting rid of it you just fan it out in the skies all over the world and so that's that's info that i've been breaking out there it's not just geoengineering where there's some kind of private military government kind of thing doing this geoengineering where they're trying to change and manipulate the weather and they're trying they're putting you know all barium in the sky or whatever they're doing sure

Speaker 1 A little bit of that's happening too, okay?

Speaker 1 They do want to manipulate the weather, but everybody's everybody's getting wrapped up in that in not understanding to the degree of how much chem is being dropped.

Speaker 1 How many planes are dropping them all over the United States and worldwide? And so it's way bigger than anybody knows. And it's way more classified than anybody knows.
It's way more.

Speaker 1 And so that's where we are with the chemtrails, but I'm really early on this, really early on this. So you'll see now people talking about chemtrails.

Speaker 1 You'll see that I got censored when I put out my chemtrail podcast six years ago.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I got totally censored for that I mean they crushed me with censorship everywhere they can and who is they like why did anybody give a shit like why were they censoring the crap out of me who is this who are they

Speaker 1 mean yeah but who is censoring you well you've got the you got the entire monster chemical industry worldwide planetary like monster chemical industry got to think about that yeah they're producing chemicals for every product that's in everywhere in every shape fashion and form it's not just plastic It's not just the world's made out of plastic, the chemicals that are being made and manufactured.

Speaker 1 And they can't dump it. If they dumped it into Lake Erie, it would be completely 100% dead.
If they dumped it into the ocean right now, the algae blooms would be way more worse than they are now.

Speaker 1 They can't. They can't do those runoffs anymore.
They can't run. Every factory, every chemical industry can't run all that stuff into the water like that anymore.
They got to fan it out.

Speaker 1 They got to do that whole osmosis thing. They got to just sprinkle it about.

Speaker 1 That's the chemistry industry, but we're nowhere scratching that surface. We are nowhere close to scratching that surface.
Then that's the problem right now.

Speaker 1 But the good news is, the good news, don't get me wrong, I'm so glad they're talking about geoengineering because it's going to get us someday closer, hopefully, to those private

Speaker 1 fields,

Speaker 1 airplanes landing in private fields on federal lands, on private land, bases all around the world, and trucks filling up these planes with chemical.

Speaker 1 It gets us closer to getting to that reality is what it does, so that we could get there. So right now, when somebody talks about geoengineering, like say the EPA right now, that's great.

Speaker 1 It's amazing. I'm glad they're looking into everything they can.
Thank God, because it's going to make a change. There's a good chance.

Speaker 1 And I'm glad, like, there's states now considering, hey, let's try to stop any of this aerial spray that could be geoengineering, but it's way bigger than that.

Speaker 2 Is that why people are getting sick more?

Speaker 1 Is that it's not helping. It's not helping with people who have asthma and all kinds of different health problems.
It's not helping at all. It's a lot of metal falling out of the sky.

Speaker 1 Mercury, lead, you know, arsenic just dropping out of the sky every day, copper dropping out of the sky. So we have all of that.

Speaker 1 And that's not even just like old nuclear fallout, radiation, other things. It's not even just all that.
There's a lot of stuff involved, but the chemtrail is a mixed brew.

Speaker 1 It's not just this one brew for geoengineering, and that's what they're trying to do to manipulate the weather. That's like preschool understanding right now.

Speaker 1 Preschool, like that is basic understanding. That's like 101.

Speaker 1 It's bigger than that. The brews that are coming out of different planes, it's different.

Speaker 1 Each one is different. Some of these chemicals have been batches made 50 years ago that's been like in backlogged, and they're trying to get that stuff loaded up and dropped because it's building up.

Speaker 1 And the chemical industry is a monster. That's the big one right there.
And, you know, people talk about the Illuminati and they talk about the hierarchy. They're behind the chemical industry.

Speaker 1 Like that, they're definitely wrapped up, tied into that. Anyway, so here's another example of information I talk about and probably why I'm hated.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I got to throw that in.
Yeah, yeah. Of course you're not going to be able to do that.
This is why is AW hated?

Speaker 2 This is why. So then again, like, but how do I know that you get your information from a spirit? Is that the whole thing?

Speaker 1 Like a spirit of compassion is that spirit of compassion oh that oh that's that's great when we talk about spirit of compassion right so age four yeah i heard a voice age four age four yeah age four heard a voice because i want you to give people your origin story absolutely okay and i this voice was talking about advanced medical information and i've had to dedicate my whole life to that very thing like all the different bugs that people have and pathogens, different rights of pathogens and the toxic heavy metals, like the autism thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's toxic heavy metals. Thanks.
Cause I've been talking about that for 40 years. So, you know, from spirit of compassion, that's the whole point.

Speaker 1 The mercury with Alzheimer's, you know, like all of that information, Parkinson's being toxic heavy metals, toxic copper.

Speaker 1 All of this came to me when I was like four, five, six, seven years old. I couldn't pronounce anything, could barely, you know, say it, but I would say it and get it out.

Speaker 1 By eight years old, nine years old, I was learning advanced medical information, was being trained by this voice I hear. And sure,

Speaker 1 someone might be like oh okay he's not a scientist okay he's not a doctor if i wanted to be a scientist i could have been one if i wanted to be a doctor i could have been one like people are like he's not an md he's not a doctor uh i could have been one i could be one now i could go and be one nothing can stop me i could do it but i don't want to i hear this voice it gives me advanced information because How else would you know about the blood draw problem?

Speaker 1 That came from the voice I hear. I didn't wake up one morning like I'm a real smart guy guy and be like, oh, I'm a genius.
You know, yeah, this blood draw thing. I just, just pulled it out of my ass.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm just really, you know, I'm really smart. I'm a highly intelligent guy.
You know, so maybe it's not. No, it's, it's, it's, I hear the voice tell me.

Speaker 1 And the voice is like, here's how it works. Here's what's happening.
Here's what's going to be a big part of taking people down with chronic, the chronic illness.

Speaker 1 It's going to be a big deal if we don't change this. So get working on it.
Here's the information. Here's where your immune system is.
Here's how it works.

Speaker 1 Here's how people are going to get sicker and sicker getting their blood drawn. So, and all those details involved are in there.
And that information is profound and it's life-saving.

Speaker 1 If you're somebody with sick with autoimmune right now and you're like getting sicker, but you're getting those routine blood draws, I just saved your life.

Speaker 1 And okay, maybe not me, but the voice I hear just saved your life potentially.

Speaker 2 Would you still hear the voice? Like, how often do you hear the voice? Too often.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 2 Like, can you hear it like multiple times a day?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You can? Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 I hear the voice too much, but, you know, but that's just the way it is. Since you're four.
Since I was four, yeah. Made life difficult.
But what did it do?

Speaker 1 It created these incredible Bibles, these medical medium Bibles. Yeah.
Information that's healed millions of people worldwide.

Speaker 1 And just for the record, more people healed than anything else in the world is medical medium information.

Speaker 1 More people healed from getting out of wheelchairs, multiple sclerosis, ALS, any kind of condition. More people healed.

Speaker 1 Children that weren't verbal, becoming verbal after doing the HMDS, like more people getting their lives back, rising out of the ashes because of this voice I hear. Yeah, it makes me different.

Speaker 1 Yeah, sure. And then people could be like, oh, I doubt it or I doubt this voice.
Fine. You get sick, find the information.
You get sick someday.

Speaker 1 you know, get on the bandwagon, learn this information and save your own ass, save your own skin, because this information does that for people.

Speaker 1 And that, that's the most profound, you know, incredible part of it.

Speaker 2 Well, let's talk about cancer, okay, or like the wheel, because cancer is a big one. I think everyone's biggest fear, one of mine.

Speaker 2 And if this information is out there and people, why are people still dying of like terminal cancer if these this stuff is like written in so many books?

Speaker 2 Like, you know, when people have no more hope, like, wouldn't they just, even if they didn't believe in you, wouldn't they just go to the books and, or someone would say to them, try this particular thing?

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, you know the health scene. You know how much is out there, right? You know, okay, okay, you got tons of money out there.
Yep. Tons.
We're talking about billions, right? More.

Speaker 1 We're talking about, you know, really wealthy people that become influencers that come from tons of money.

Speaker 1 They go and they get, you know, campaign people, promotion, you know, people, PR firms behind them. They learn how to game the system.

Speaker 1 They run ads by the truckloads on YouTube, wherever it is, you know, they, Instagram, whatever. And they run, you know, they spend a million in ads a month, but people don't realize this.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Well, there's a bunch of those and they're clogging up everything so that you just can't find your way. It's hard to find your way.

Speaker 1 And so with medical medium information, it's word of mouth because we don't do that. We don't take millions of dollars and try to dominate the entire game, the system, and try to pull that card.

Speaker 1 So this is an organic movement, but a real one of millions healed across the world. And so it's word of mouth.
But word of mouth is like this. I healed.
I healed doing this. You know, try this, right?

Speaker 1 I'm not running, you know, a million of ad, a million dollars of ads a month to try to trick people into, you know, the information. It's never like that.

Speaker 1 High integrity. It's just clear.
It's just, hey, here's the info. It's in these books.
Someone heals. They tell somebody else.
That's how it's done. It's a big world.

Speaker 1 And what I'm trying to say is the health movement is saturated. It's really saturated right now.
Okay.

Speaker 1 You got every single day, you've got another thousand individuals coming out with a new product, coming out with a new podcast.

Speaker 1 There's probably 20 million health podcasts, but nobody knows they exist because they're all like, they're all like. underdogs, right? They're just down there.
They don't know it takes millions.

Speaker 1 They don't know it takes a lot of money. It takes advertisers.
It takes all of that. They don't know how to game the system.
They're not there.

Speaker 1 They're just like, I'll start a podcast tomorrow, but there's millions of them, right? But either way, the system is, the health movement is saturated.

Speaker 1 So it takes like an angel basically at this point, why someone's on their hands and knees praying to God, being like, I need an answer. I got mystery chronic illness.

Speaker 1 The doctor doesn't know what's wrong with me anymore. I got 50 symptoms.
And then you're walking down Barnes and Noble Aisle.

Speaker 1 And an angel pushes the medical medium Bible, the pushes the medical medium book right off the shelf, lands on the ground. They pick it up and they're like, What is this thing?

Speaker 1 And they open it up and it starts to make sense. You know, MMInfo isn't common sense because common sense isn't all right.

Speaker 1 It just makes sense. That's the difference.
And they start saying, Oh my God, this is me. This is me with my condition.

Speaker 1 I got the tingles and the numbness and the aches and pains in the vertigo that won't go away. The dizziness.
I got the jaw pain, the back pain, the neck pain.

Speaker 1 I got all these different things going on. I got the trigeminal neuralgia.
I got the migraines and the brain fog. I got the fatigue where I can't function.
This has the answers. Here it is.

Speaker 1 And it takes, you know, a certain person to actually do that. And then if they say, wait, where did this come from? Oh, guy that hears a voice.
I don't care. I got to heal.
That's it.

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Speaker 1 so is there like some type of is there something that people should be doing every day that we're not doing to help our health overall health our immune system yeah they shouldn't be worried about parasites because that's a that whole thing's a fraud so the whole parasite game is a fraud big time wow why because explain it yeah i'll explain a little bit if you get a parasite it doesn't live with you on a monthly, yearly basis for years keeping you sick.

Speaker 1 You get a parasite and it's you're the parasite. That's it.
You die or the parasite dies. So people get parasites all the time, but it gets killed off by their own body all the time.

Speaker 1 You go to a restaurant, you get a bad meal, you barfed one time, you got some diarrhea, you got a parasite of some kind. Got foodborne illness, you got a parasite, you got a toxic foodborne illness.

Speaker 1 Five days later, you're feeling better. You're cleaned up.
You barfed a couple of times. You're getting back into action.
It got killed off. If it stays there, you barf and barf and barf.

Speaker 1 It doesn't get killed off yet. You barf, you barf, you barf until you die.
You end up in a hospital. You're on, you know, a salt bag.
They're like, well, we don't know. It could be E.
coli, sir.

Speaker 1 We don't know what it is. What did you last eat? What happened? What's going on? And you're just in agony.
And then they pump morphine in you because you can't handle the pain.

Speaker 1 That's a parasite, but it's you're the parasite. You live without it or you die with it.
That's how it works. People die all the time from parasites, but you can't have it both ways.

Speaker 1 You can't be living with one and sick with one for 10 years. You can't be.
It's either you or the parasite. That's just how it works, right? So what are people living with?

Speaker 1 Viruses, shingles viruses, Epstein-Barr viruses, cytomegaloviruses, HHV 6, HHV 7, HHV 9, HHV 10 through HHV 16, Simplex 1, Simplex 2, different varieties of Simplex 1, Simplex II, SHREP, lots of different varieties of SHREP.

Speaker 1 They're living with all of this and they're living with it for years. They get the thyroid nodules, that's from Epstein-Barr.
They get all these different problems. That's fibromyalgia.

Speaker 1 They get autoimmune. That's from Epstein-Barr.
Shingles, HHV6.

Speaker 1 And they live this life with viruses because you can live with stealth viruses for years with no problem you can live a whole lifetime and be sick on mattress island like bedridden for 30 years 50 years with viruses pathogens but not with parasites but what happened is parasite game it's an easy one to sell people you got parasites that's what it is and here maybe you got this kind of maybe you got trichinella maybe you got the maybe you got this kind of parasite and they they're they're doing it to sell all the parasite cleanses and parasite products It's another way to game the system.

Speaker 1 And that's what's happening. It's another kind of variety of fraud and it's rampant and people are buying into it.
And that's the sad part. And you know what they'll do?

Speaker 1 They'll poach some medical medium information with it. They'll put lemon balm in it or something or cat's claw, which is MM info.
Those are antivirals.

Speaker 1 So they'll take a couple of those things and stick it in a parasite formula and start gearing the parasite formula more to medical medium information, which actually heals people with Lyme disease and other problems.

Speaker 1 And then they'll kind of trick people out that way. But either way, they're still screwing them over by saying, here's a parasite formula and get rid of your parasites.
No, you don't have a parasite.

Speaker 1 Now, worms are different. Worms are entirely different.
Worms are separate from parasites. Worms don't necessarily ever kill you.
A big old fat tape worm, it gets too out of control.

Speaker 1 I mean, that can bring you down. But all the other basic worms, they're not killers.

Speaker 1 And people are loaded with worms and live healthy lives till they're 80, till they're 90, meaning they have other problems. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And they're shitting out worms and they're pushing out pin worms and they got different kinds of, you know, different varieties. They got liver flukes from time to time.

Speaker 1 They can get worms, but worms don't stick you in the hospital on morphine with an IV, saying to the doctor, you're in so much agony. I'm in so much agony.
You have to cure me, doctor, please.

Speaker 1 And that's different. Those are parasites that are like either you live or you die kind of parasite.

Speaker 2 So worms, you shouldn't be dangerous. Worms are not dangerous.

Speaker 1 They're not. No, they're not.

Speaker 2 Parasites, you're saying either you'll live with them or you get killed by them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know, you either have to kill them. Yeah, kill them.
Yeah. Meaning like fast.
So if you're, you're in a, you're in a

Speaker 1 restaurant, you just picked up a couple of, couple of parasites.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You just ate some shrimp. Yeah.
Right.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And you get like sick from it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Now you're in the hospital.
Right.

Speaker 2 So either you'll kill them off fast and you're done. Or if they live with you, you'll die from them.

Speaker 1 Is that you'll eventually die from them because you won't, you'll get dehydrated. You'll be in too much pain.
You'll lay in a hospital bed and die. And guess how many people die with food poisoning?

Speaker 1 They keep it under wraps. Those stats aren't out there.
They die all the time. They die at dinner tables.
They die at tables and restaurants.

Speaker 1 They die in hospitals all the time. Food poisoning.

Speaker 1 Yeah, food poisoning, foodborne pathogens, meaning illnesses that are parasitical. But you can't live long term like that.

Speaker 1 It has to go away. It can't stay with you.
You go down to Mexico, you drink some bad water, you have to heal within a timeline or you die. That's it.

Speaker 1 You lay in a Mexican hospital and you're on an IV and you have to, your body has to fight and fight and fight and fight. Why they got you on morphine drip.

Speaker 1 You have to fight and fight until you're freed from it and then you get out of the hospital. But a lot of times you fight, fight, fight.
It doesn't stop. You're still puking.

Speaker 1 You puke yourself to death in the hospital while you're on an IV and on morphine. That's a parasite.
You can't live with it long term. You can't.
And so that's, that's how it works.

Speaker 2 So, okay, so parasites and worms, I understand.

Speaker 1 And why would I know all this? I'm such a genius. It comes from, it comes from the voice I hear.

Speaker 2 So like, like today, have you heard the voice talk to you?

Speaker 1 Every day.

Speaker 2 like, do you wake up to it in the middle of the night? Does it happen?

Speaker 1 Like, yeah, middle of the night, a lot of times, of course, and uh, early in the morning, you know, four or five o'clock in the morning, I'll wake up and hear a spirit of compassion trying to inspire me to keep going to still do this work, to still do the next book, to still, you know, fight the good fight for the chronically ill.

Speaker 1 Nobody has the chronically ill's back, they just don't. There's a lot of great doctors out there, but in the end, it's it's really hard to kind of really look out for the chronically ill.

Speaker 1 And then there's the then there's the the social media doctors they're the worst because the meaning because they don't practice right i understand what you mean right you know what i'm talking about yes so what it is it's like a rich kid goes to med school then you know on mommy and daddy's money gets out of med school or whatever chiropractic school whatever they choose right and then they don't want to practice Social media is shiny flashy.

Speaker 1 They can use their credentials. They can get on social and start talking about stupid food facts, stupid you know chronically health chronic health facts no right and i'm telling you if i'm wrong

Speaker 1 there's a lot of okay okay okay they don't want to go into the trenches right yep i yes they you know they don't want to go and hear people like whining and crying they don't want to sit in an office all day long and say okay mrs ferginson come on in i got your chart right here okay your shoulder hurts still did you try that drug i gave you or you know did you try that that turmeric i gave you now because every md is using turmeric, it's like they don't want to do this.

Speaker 1 It's mucky, dirty business. They don't want their hands dirty.
The social media doctor is such a letdown, absolute disgusting letdown. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, that's a business in itself.

Speaker 1 And I'm not talking about some of the social doctors that had 20 years in the trenches. No, I know you're not.
They learned a lot. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 I'm not talking about, let's clear that slate now.

Speaker 2 No, but I understand. Like, I think it's a whole, I think it's a business.
I have a lot of people who come on the show.

Speaker 2 They don't practice anymore because they're focusing on their media and their fame and all the other stuff or that stuff. And

Speaker 2 they're not in the trenches or like you said, doing the work.

Speaker 1 But the medical media and books are the trenches.

Speaker 1 Their stories are there, what they've gone through. Somebody literally in the thicket of hell and what their symptoms are like.
And then coming out of that.

Speaker 1 And besides, I spent 30 years in the trenches. I helped people one-on-one.

Speaker 2 I was going to ask you,

Speaker 1 hundreds of thousands.

Speaker 1 Did you do one-on-one? One-on-ones, two offices for decades. I was in the trenches trying to help people.
I worked hand in hand with doctors and in difficult cases.

Speaker 1 So it's not like I woke up one morning and said, I want to be a medical medium. That sounds like a great idea.
Let me open a social media account. No way.

Speaker 1 I mean, I just did an event at Cafe Gratitude just now where we had, you know, we

Speaker 1 sold out dinner. It was a book signing event.
And someone walked up to me and it was a client from like the earlier 2000s. And it was unbelievable.
It was an old client from from the earlier 2000s.

Speaker 1 And I haven't, in the last 10 years, I haven't worked with anybody one-on-one. You know, I haven't been, I haven't done that.
And, but before that, it was day in and day out.

Speaker 1 It was six in the morning till midnight, you know, six in the morning till two in the morning, like meaning all the way around. Yeah.
Seven days a week, didn't take any time off.

Speaker 1 I did this for year after year after year after year. I was in the trenches.
I know what chronic illness is, but you get these kids, they go to med school, mommy and daddy pays for it.

Speaker 1 They come out, they want to just do soch. They don't even want to understand it.
And then they want to sell products, shit products to the chronically sick. It's disgusting.

Speaker 1 And so then, so you now you know why people hate me. Yeah, no, no.

Speaker 1 I'm getting a good idea. No, no, you either love me.
I know. You either love me.

Speaker 2 People do love you. In fact, actually, I told you this a long time ago, maybe, but years ago when you first came on.
People told me some crazy stories about you because I was like, who is this guy?

Speaker 2 He sounds kind of like, like kind of a wacko, right?

Speaker 1 Like some

Speaker 2 spirits talking to him. And like people like who were pretty legit were like, you've no idea.
Like, I have to tell you, like, this actually happened and that actually happened.

Speaker 2 And this is actually what happened. I'm like, really?

Speaker 2 Like, I was like, okay, maybe I should be a little bit more open-minded. And then you said a couple of things.

Speaker 1 Then you reached out to me. Yeah.
You're like, many times.

Speaker 2 You were not so easy to get.

Speaker 1 No, I was like, I don't want to go on there. You don't like to feel like going on there.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you don't like to do a lot of things.

Speaker 1 I could do the circuit. I mean, I have a big enough platform where people are like, get that guy on.
Right. We get asked every day.
I'm sure. He comes into our media page on my website.

Speaker 1 Can you do this, you know, podcast? Do this podcast. And I just, you know, over time, I just picked the ones that I feel like doing.
And that's it.

Speaker 2 But I'm glad. I'm so honored that you came on my podcast.

Speaker 1 I'm honored you had me on. Okay.
I love this.

Speaker 2 I think you're so fascinating because I actually am a believer that there's something more to our world or our universe than just what we see, you know, face on. Right.
Like, and so

Speaker 1 look, I don't try to dress up like a guru. I don't try to wear, you know, clothes and

Speaker 1 fancy necklaces. I'm not doing this all day long.
I mean, I hear a voice. I mean,

Speaker 1 if anybody has a right to like throw a gown on and do this and just be like this 24-7 and let my hair out and act like I'm Jesus Christ, I might have somewhat of a right to a degree to actually act like it.

Speaker 1 But no, you know, I hear a voice and I try to just be, you know, as cool as I can and as normal as I can, if that's what you call it. Yeah.
I try to be as normal as I can.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, right. I love that.
But what I'm saying is

Speaker 1 I hear a voice. There's people in spiritual retreats all the time.
They're like, oh my God, like talking about the universe and everything else and everything spiritual. I hear a voice since age four.

Speaker 1 Like millions have healed because of it. And I'm like walking around like, da, da, da, da, da, like, what? Jennifer, you want me on? Oh, yeah, sure.
Okay. I'll be there.

Speaker 2 I love that. What does the voice sound like, first of all? And do they know your name? Do they say, hey, Anthony, you know, here I am again today on, you know, I told the voice, stop saying my name.

Speaker 2 So what do they say?

Speaker 1 Long time ago, stop saying my name. What do you hear? I tell the voice, say AW, call me AW.
And the voice doesn't call me AW.

Speaker 1 But I tell the voice I hear. You hear an actual voice.

Speaker 2 Is it a boy voice I say?

Speaker 1 It's an actual voice I hear, and it's not in my head. I wish it was.
What? It's not in your head? I wish it was. Where is it? It's on the outside.

Speaker 2 You actually hear it?

Speaker 1 It's on the outside. So I could block it, and I hear it mostly in the right ear.

Speaker 2 Do you hear, is it a boy voice, a man voice? It's a man's voice.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And let me ask you a question.

Speaker 1 How accurate? I mean, and I, and listen, it's a man's voice because maybe that's what I needed it to be. Right.
You know, for it to work

Speaker 1 on me. Right.
For me to be like, I will dedicate my life.

Speaker 1 to doing this, you know, and the big turnaround for me, the big turnaround was when I was young and my dog was drowning and drowning in a very cold, deep river.

Speaker 1 And I jumped in and the voice I heard, Spirit of Compassion, said, if you go any further, you're done. That's it.
You're gone. Right.
And I was like, you know,

Speaker 1 not going to swear too much on this episode. It's okay.
I was like, screw you. You know, I dedicated my life.
You want me to dedicate my life to this?

Speaker 1 I've already worked on so many people and worked with so many people. I'm already spreading the information.
I was much younger. And I was like, I was like, I need my dog.
I can't let my dog drown.

Speaker 1 It's, you know, it's, you should be able to help me with this, you know? And I dove in and it was, it was basically suicide. And I got way out there and my dog went down.
And

Speaker 1 it was the scariest thing, but I knew. And, you know, when I got out there, I was starting to numb up and I knew there was no turning back.
I was already too numb. It was that cold.

Speaker 1 It was like 38 degrees kind of water. And

Speaker 1 then I went down. saw my dog in an angel's arms and I reached over.

Speaker 1 The angel handed my dog over i grabbed the the collar of my dog and my dog august and i pulled the dog up and i got to the surface and then it was the second time i saw spirit of compassion ever the second time because i only saw spirit of compassion once when i was four years old and then i got to the surface of the water and spirit of compassion was on top of the water just standing there and said that basically that angel's not going to wait for you you only have a few seconds seconds to get back.

Speaker 1 Because it wasn't Spirit of Compassion that was saving me and my dog. It was an angel that did it.
SOC wasn't saving my life. SOC was telling me, you basically got, you were given this gift.

Speaker 1 An angel heard your cry. You got just a few seconds to get back.
And I dragged my dog through that deep water, got to the shore, crawled on the shore. and survived.

Speaker 1 With the dog or without the dog? With the dog.

Speaker 2 With the dog.

Speaker 1 It was in that. And then I told Spirit of Compassion, I'm yours.
That's it. I'm going to dedicate my entire existence.
Hell or high water, problems, censorship, like I deal with all the time.

Speaker 1 I'm the only one censored on X right now. I mean, that's what I believe anyway, because unless someone else knows they're censored on X, but I'm still, I'm censored on X.

Speaker 2 Like, what? I'm shocked. I thought that for sure, like, Elon Musk would, like, love you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know him personally. I don't know him personally.
So, but yeah, I'm censored on X. It's ridiculous so

Speaker 1 twitter censored me a long time ago i was rising up on on twitter real fast so yeah he was people and everything i was like i was cruising on twitter

Speaker 1 and then somebody in twitter twitter just said censor this guy right and that's what they did And then when Elon opened up the floodgate, nobody censored anymore, you know? And then,

Speaker 1 you know, bring Donald Trump back on, you know, no one censored whatever it was. Yeah.
I stayed censored. Still censored on X.
It's unbelievable. Why?

Speaker 1 Who knows? Maybe it's just the way the system was set. And there's not an engineer talking to me to say, look, let's unglitch this.
Twitter glitched you. Let's unglitch it.

Speaker 1 You know, but I don't know any engineers on Twitter to actually take their time and be like, let's actually try to fix this for you. You know what I mean? And that's just how it works.

Speaker 2 What's interesting is besides the blood, I mean, most of the stuff that you provide, though, is not harm.

Speaker 2 I mean, people, I guess, would say some of the things are harmful if you don't have a medical degree.

Speaker 1 Well, you know what it is?

Speaker 1 If they don't study the information, they don't really look at the information properly, they don't read it, they don't take their time, they're never going to really understand it.

Speaker 1 So, they're going to take like somebody else's that medical medium said, Do this,

Speaker 1 you know, and they and you know, people run with it, you know.

Speaker 2 But how acc in your experience, yeah, what's the accuracy rate that you've had? Do you know? Have you ever like thought about the accuracy rate?

Speaker 1 I mean, the amount of people healed, the track record is insane, right? I mean, insane.

Speaker 2 Like, but have you ever, has the spirit of compassion ever been wrong that you've remembered?

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm wrong, but the spirit of compassion isn't.

Speaker 2 What have you been wrong about?

Speaker 1 I got my own thoughts. I got my own, you know, I don't put them in the book.
I don't put them, it's all SOC of the book. So all that information is only SOC.
I can't put my opinion in the book.

Speaker 1 I can't be like my separate self, you know? You can't. You can be like, well,

Speaker 1 what if

Speaker 1 jumping in an ice tub of ice is a good thing for you? You know, you know, ice plunging, cold plunging, whatever you want to call it. Maybe it is good for you.
Like, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Like innocently saying that. And then SOC will be like, it's not.

Speaker 1 You know, if you've got chronic illness, if you got a sensitive central nervous system, you can't be sitting in that, you know, that cold water.

Speaker 1 Your immune system will drop. Right.
And so, and by the way, I talked about that. And then some of the influencers are like, yeah, you know, if you're a woman, you know, that's my information.

Speaker 1 If you're a woman, you might want not want to do the cold plunging because it might not be good for you. You're different than men.
That's medical meme information.

Speaker 1 You know, people follow all my info and everything. And so they take that.
But, you know, but me, I could be like, wake up one morning as Anthony William and be like, yeah, maybe I should cold plunge.

Speaker 1 Maybe it's the smart thing to do. Maybe it is good for you.
And then SOC says no. And so in the books, it's all SOC.
My own personal life.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I could walk down the sidewalk and make my own choice and try to go this way and trip on a curve and be like, oh, fuck, I just fell. You know, I have my own free will.
It wasn't taken from me.

Speaker 1 Right. But when it comes down to the hardcore stuff, get healing, moving forward, people healing, chronically ill healing, recovering.
Yeah, you know, I'm going to listen to SOC.

Speaker 1 I'm going to get those words and I'm going to make sure they're in the books right. And I'm going to make sure it's done right.

Speaker 1 But me, sure, I could wake up in the morning and be like, let me drink this old coconut water that's been been out for three days and be like, oh, it's fermented,

Speaker 1 you know, because I got my own

Speaker 1 opinion, my own free will. I can do what I want to do to a degree.
But SOC, it's different, you know, like fermented food. People think it's good for you.
It's not good for you.

Speaker 1 I would have thought it's amazing for you. Me personally would have thought,

Speaker 1 it's in G, it's incredible. It's ancient.
Fermented food's gotta be good for you. Gotta be good for your gut.
And SOC says, no, it's dead. It's not.
It's death. It's not good for your gut.

Speaker 1 Any kind of, you know, like any kind of

Speaker 1 microorganism within fermented food is for death. That means if a body dies and starts decaying, like even a piece of meat, piece of flesh, stick it outside on the ground.

Speaker 1 And the microorganisms are death-based ones. So if you ferment meat, it's death-based ones.
That's not living ones, you see. Fermented food is not good for you.
That's SOC's information.

Speaker 1 I've published it. I put it in the books.
And by the way, I do have some credentials. I'm a number one New York Times best-selling author.

Speaker 1 Multiple, right? Multiple. And just so you know, yeah, led the way

Speaker 1 in my publisher for many years.

Speaker 1 How many books have you sold? Number one and a lot of books sold around the world. Because I know you do like business stuff and all that stuff.
Yes, yes, yes, yes. I'd like to know these things.

Speaker 1 In the millions and millions. How many? We want numbers.

Speaker 1 We want numbers.

Speaker 2 How many have you sold?

Speaker 2 like 10 million books 10 million books 5 million books 2 million books 1 million 20 million books 30 million books it's a lot it's just a lot but the bottom line is and guess what

Speaker 1 people are going to ask so 30 million books would you a lot of million books and check this out

Speaker 1 check this out okay yeah it's rare

Speaker 1 guess what yeah done without advertising campaigns, no promotional companies, no PR firms, nothing, and no of the whole thing where there's the services.

Speaker 1 If you're an author and you got money, you can buy a $500,000 program and they'll ship out all your books, they'll do your books, and they'll get you an NYT, right? None of that. All integrity, clean.

Speaker 1 Nobody knows the biz out there. I know the biz.
You know the biz? Trust me. All of it is organic.
All of it is really, really grassroots. Why? Because I'm a nice guy.
Because people like me? No. No.

Speaker 1 Because people freaking freaking healed and got their lives back. People that were really sick.
Because you're not going to a guy called the medical medium to fix your problems.

Speaker 1 You're going to go to your freaking doctor. But you come to these books because you're on your last, you know, thing and you realize this was the answer and you heal.

Speaker 1 And that's why there's that many books that were sold out there in the world.

Speaker 2 No, it's true. Finally, I mean, most people don't understand the black, like the, the, the, the business behind the business.
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Speaker 1 practice.

Speaker 1 And, and, and I'm sorry to tell everybody, okay? Every health book in the future that you buy out there, not mine, but every health book you buy is going to be a jarbled bunch of shit written by AI.

Speaker 1 No author in the health movement will ever write a book again. Okay.
That's true. It's going to be a jumbled bunch of crap, but I'm just letting you know that's what it's going to be.

Speaker 1 And these books, no.

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Speaker 2 You didn't answer the first question I asked you, which was,

Speaker 1 sounds like I got a big ego today.

Speaker 2 No, it's okay. It's okay.

Speaker 2 I think it's endearing. What's the one thing that people should be doing for their health every day that they're not? Yeah.
You didn't answer the question.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they got to keep the fats low. That's one thing that's critical.
Fats. Okay.
Everybody's fatting themselves to death. I'm not talking about like people gaining weight and obesity.

Speaker 1 I'm not talking about that. What are you talking about? I'm talking about everybody's fatting themselves to death because every meal has fat in it.
Oh, it's just overt fat everywhere.

Speaker 1 They're burdening their liver down. They're beating their liver down.
They're tiring it out.

Speaker 1 They're thickening up their bloodstream so their immune system can't fight the fight because all that fat gets in the way.

Speaker 1 They're getting insulin resistance because they got so much fat in their bloodstream. They're just like fataholics.
Throw some salt in there. Now they're salt fataholics.

Speaker 2 So we should be staying away. Are you a proponent for animal protein then or not?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Animal protein and plant-based. See, Medical Medium Info is for both.
So then

Speaker 1 you can do animal protein. You can do protein.
By the way, protein-based. Yeah.
You're welcome. Protein-based? No, not

Speaker 1 protein-based, animal-based? Right? Protein-based, yes. You know how people say protein-based? Yeah.
You know, they used to just say meat eater.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but now there's so many other ways you can eat protein.

Speaker 1 Animal-based is what they say. Yeah, animal-based.
You're welcome. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh, you say that? Is that because of you?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And now they've all taken it. They've all taken it.
So animal-based, because plant-based, and it was meat eater. You're plant-based and meat eater.
That's it.

Speaker 2 So you believe in both? Yeah, yeah. But you're saying not to eat fat, but then are you talking like salmon has a lot of fat? Almond butter has a lot of fat.
What are you saying?

Speaker 1 You're chronically sick. You keep on doing the high fats like that.
You're just going to go.

Speaker 2 So what should we be eating every day?

Speaker 1 You gotta keep it down, you gotta lower it. You can be on animal protein, but you gotta kind of like get it.
Lean chicken, but you gotta do it at the end of the day, maybe once a day.

Speaker 1 You can be plant-based and doing lots of avocado, maybe do it at the end of the day or something, or some avocado.

Speaker 1 You can be plant-based, you want to do some nuts and seeds, maybe do it at the end of the day or every three days.

Speaker 1 Same thing with animal protein. Maybe if you're really sick, you do animal protein every three days, right? Because it's fat, it's animal fat that's your animal protein.

Speaker 2 So wait, wait, wait, wait. I have a question for you.
I got a bunch, but how about vitamin D?

Speaker 2 Everyone's like, you know, that's like, there's like all these true things that people say you must be doing, like vitamin D every day, creatine.

Speaker 1 You know, you know, I totally destroyed the whole 50,000 I use of vitamin D thing.

Speaker 2 No, I did not know this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you don't even hear. It's like, it's crickets now.

Speaker 2 Okay, tell me, what did you say?

Speaker 1 I said, don't do 50 fucking thousand I use of vitamin D because it's not a good idea. Vitamin D is fine.

Speaker 2 I thought it's 5,000, isn't it?

Speaker 1 No, no, they're just, they've been pumping 50,000 for years, you know, 30,000, the whole bit for years. It was the big thing for like a decade.

Speaker 1 Now it's like, crickets like 50,000 I use, chip, trip, chip, trip. It's no one says it anymore.
That's because I

Speaker 1 really got that one clean.

Speaker 2 So don't be having the vitamin D every day.

Speaker 1 No, you can have it every day, but keep it down to a thousand.

Speaker 2 Was that kind of overrated also?

Speaker 1 Overrated, totally overrated. You can take all the vitamin D you want and still be bedridden, still be chronically sick.
It's a good thing to do, but you can still be sick.

Speaker 1 You can still lose your life. You can still die of chronic illness.
Miss your chronic illness. You can take all the vitamin D you want.
But yeah, it's fine to do. I'm not anti-vitamin D.

Speaker 1 I think it's fine. It's just, it's overrated.
It's one of those things that doesn't fix the problem.

Speaker 2 What about omega-3s every day? What about,

Speaker 2 is there any supplement that is necessary?

Speaker 1 Plant-based omega-3s, you know, that's, that's a great thing. Omega-3 still isn't a big fix-all either.
You know, you can be somebody that you take all the omega-3s you want.

Speaker 1 You can still have fibro neurological Lyme. You can be sick for 30 years, have multiple sclerosis.
You can have tingles, numbness, aches, and pains and dizziness all the time.

Speaker 1 You can have jaw pain and brain fog and migraines and take all the omega-3 you want and you ain't coming out of it.

Speaker 2 Okay, so that, okay, so is there any particular supplement that you think is a must? Or they, do you think, what do you think? Is there anything we should be doing every day?

Speaker 1 B12 is critical. I'm just giving you one.
Okay, there's a bunch. B12.
B12 is critical.

Speaker 2 Okay, what about the sauna? We talked about the...

Speaker 1 Just so you know, there's an anti-B12 thing right now. You're starting up, you know,

Speaker 1 you don't need your B12.

Speaker 1 You can get it from your food and all that. Meat eaters are desperate for B12.
Meat eaters, they can't get it from their food. They can't.
Plant-based people, they can't get enough from their food.

Speaker 1 You do have to supplement it in the world we're in. That has to be the right B12, but you have to supplement it in the world we're in.

Speaker 2 So everyone should be taking B12.

Speaker 1 Everybody should be on B12. Okay, because...
Methicobalamin, adenosilcobalamin. Everybody should be on that blend.

Speaker 2 What does it do?

Speaker 1 It's for the nervous system. It's for every cell in the body.
It's for the brain. It's critical.
If you got chronic illness and you're not on the right B12, like a good B12, you're losing out.

Speaker 1 You're losing out. Like it's the one thing that you can see a result really, really, really fast with is B12.

Speaker 1 Like if you're somebody that's been bedridden for a while and you're not on B12 and you start taking a good high dose of it, you can start all of a sudden being like, oh my God,

Speaker 1 I couldn't move my shoulder. You got a way to recover, but

Speaker 1 I could move and I could think a little bit. Like, it's unbelievable what happens.
Yeah, B12 is that important. Wow.

Speaker 1 And right now, there's like whatever's left of the plant-based movement, because the animal-based movement crushed it. There's nothing left of it.
Yes. It's really sad.

Speaker 1 There's barely anything left of the vegan movement, the plant-based movement. And I was never just on that side.
My books are medical medium,

Speaker 1 be a vegan, medical medium, plant-based is your only hope, right? I was never that. I was always like on both sides of the aisle where you want to do meat, let's do it right.

Speaker 1 You want to do chicken, let's do it right. Let's heal, but use all the medical medium tools while you're doing your meat.

Speaker 1 But what happened is the animal-based world, which they call animal-based now because of MM term, it's...

Speaker 1 It's crushing the plant-based movement and the youth, the young people in their 20s, you know, teens and 20s, early 30s are not even going plant-based. They're They're just going all.

Speaker 1 They're just staying all animal, right? That's the movement and where it's going.

Speaker 2 Well, because everything now is about protein, protein, protein

Speaker 2 and muscle and protein and longevity. And the biohacking.
What's your take on the whole biohacking phenomenon, the longevity space?

Speaker 1 Sure, sure. The biohacking phenomenon is a death trap for somebody who's chronically ill.

Speaker 1 It's just for guys that didn't get sick yet. You know, they didn't get sick.
They didn't have enough exposures. They don't have enough viruses.
They don't have enough metals.

Speaker 1 They were born into this world with less heavy metals because their parents had less heavy metals. So they're, you know, maybe they weren't injured by a vaccine.
Maybe they're whatever it was.

Speaker 1 They, they, they're in a place that's okay enough, right? Yeah. Where they're just, they're, they got the athletic.
thing going on. They're not sick yet.
And they can do the biohacking thing.

Speaker 1 They can hop in an ice bath. They can go and do this.
They can go try that. They can put some diodes on their head.
They can take whatever they're taking, right?

Speaker 1 And they can play the game of, I'm the longevity guy i'm longevity i'm gonna live to be 150 that's my goal here i'm trying this and trying this get a lot of likes and clicks and you know they can play that game sure but if they were chronically sick and they were doing what they were doing

Speaker 1 bye

Speaker 2 see you later really yeah do you think that the sauna though is one biohacking

Speaker 1 the infrared sun has always been great as i was gonna say you know that's not a biohack that's i was gonna say i i was gonna say that is not a biohack but it's that is that there's biohack that's just a wellness thing i think the wellness thing has been around since infrared started.

Speaker 2 I understand, but you think that's the spiritual

Speaker 2 of compassion likes that one too, right? Well, properly.

Speaker 1 Don't go in there and cook yourself if you're somebody that's sensitive. Don't go over, go, go in there and set it for 45 minutes at the highest heat.
Yeah, you'll be sick.

Speaker 1 You'll get yourself really sick. You can hurt yourself with an infrared sauna badly.
But yeah, you've got chronic illness. You got neurological problems.
You got weaknesses, immune system compromises.

Speaker 1 Go in there for for 10 minutes with a little be a little bit of heat on. Don't go in there and bake yourself like a clam.

Speaker 2 No, there are people who actually don't think the infrared is hot enough. So now it's up to 220, those ones, like the real finished ones.

Speaker 1 That's where we go into now biohacking bullshit.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's the bio.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's the level of biohacking bullshit.

Speaker 2 What do you think of those? Not good.

Speaker 1 Terrible. Terrible.
Terrible. Because you'll have this guy who's got a lot of muscle, didn't get sick yet.
Maybe he's in his late 20s. He's going to go there and push the temp real high.

Speaker 1 And then you get some petite petite girl That's got like migraines She's got like a vagus nerve problem right yeah low low immune system had a bunch of blood pulled out of her She's gonna go in there.

Speaker 1 I really like this guy who's you know Such a strong biohacker and maybe he's got the answers. Let me go in there

Speaker 1 Right, so it's not right for everybody

Speaker 2 It's just not right. Okay, so I that's what I mean that's Okay, I understand.
Okay, I got to ask you some stuff from this book because I wrote some stuff I thought I mean we can talk all day.

Speaker 2 this is you know i i we can talk i can't i mean we can't scratch the surface of medical medium information no listen i there's there's there's so much but just because it was this book that kind of instigated you being back on the show i wanted to talk to you about a few foods okay because what i found all right all right but i can't remember every word

Speaker 2 it's got 200 000 words mangoes could we talk about mangoes do you remember they're so they're so good for people do you remember anything i'm gonna read this too i'm gonna read this okay yeah mangoes are life-changing when it comes to our emotional health.

Speaker 2 Not only do they...

Speaker 1 The glucose to the brain from mangoes is a big deal.

Speaker 2 This is a big one, right? Not only do they uplift your mood,

Speaker 2 they can alleviate depression and several

Speaker 2 seasonal affective disorders.

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 2 They're especially healing for anyone who feels abandoned, cut off, forsaken, an outcast, or shunned. detached, lonely, hurt, left out, or let down.

Speaker 1 You got to love a spirit of compassion. That's all I can say.
Yeah. This is crazy.

Speaker 1 That's just crazy.

Speaker 2 You didn't write this? The spirit of compassion wrote this.

Speaker 1 How am I going to write that? I didn't, I barely got out of high school. I don't have a college education.
Well, how to, and I don't use AI. It's word for word from Spirit of Compassion.

Speaker 1 These are highly intelligent medical books. It's medical medium science.

Speaker 2 Well, this is okay. So it says, when we eat them, the fruit, the fruit, I can't even say without my glasses, but the fruit

Speaker 2 reorientates us, changing our direction, opening us up to more opportunities to experience joy, which ultimately ultimately helps us connect to our destiny.

Speaker 1 All from a mango? Is that true? Yeah, yeah. Not from a piece of mango, not from a supplement that has a speck of mango.
Oh, a dry mango. Okay,

Speaker 1 this is what I'm trying to say. And that's the confusion here, right? There's these like dumb fruit and vegetable compilations out there

Speaker 1 that are like supplements, but you're getting, and there's also dumb herbal ones too.

Speaker 1 And there's like a speck of something like a speck of burdock fruit, a speck of mango right no i'm talking about a no no but check this out check this out right and they do these compilations and these pills you don't get anything from that you can't get anything from a speck of anything but check this out the mango you're talking about eating a mango you're talking about not just one and you're not doing a mango on top of a you know a cheesecake you know i'm not talking about mixing those if you if you learn how to eat to heal like truly eat and heal right the right way and you do mangoes on the right way miracles happen and that's the stuff you're reading right there it's unbelievable so I eat a mango before bed you sleep better you with the miracles that happen I love well the reason why I stuck on the mango was because I'm obsessed with the mango I eat like I eat like a bag of dried mangoes at night I love them like real mango dried fruits a little bit it's the real thing it's just I don't it's not no added sugar it's just the mango that was dehydrated like that I know you got to be careful though you got to try not do too much of I love it though you know it the dried fruits are like this you got to be kind of careful dates are different okay tell me they don't really dry them too often they let them naturally dry it's a different process you know they come kind of they're they're kind of moist wet juicy when you come off a tree you eat a date it's like juicy it's like the juice will run down your hands it's it's actually bizarre you go to the store there's no juice in them you open them up right yeah they're still better they're still better but when you go to dried fruits dried mango can be okay you just can't eat a ton of it because it takes longer to break it down in its dried state so now you've got a big hunk of mango sitting in your gut.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's not breaking down as fast as it needs to.
So you've got to pace yourself. I can't.

Speaker 1 Chew it good, chew it good, make sure it really breaks down in your mouth enough, and then you're okay with dried mango. And make sure there's no sulfur and yeah, no sulfur.

Speaker 2 But so you don't get the same benefits with the dried mango as a regular mango that has.

Speaker 1 You get some.

Speaker 2 But not some. But how does it help your emotional state? Like, what does it do to your brain? Is it because of the, because of the high stress?

Speaker 1 There's something something called the emotional centers of the brain. I wrote about that from SFC in the brain saver books.
Okay, yep. Unbelievable books, the brainsaver books.

Speaker 2 Talk about what's in that thing.

Speaker 1 My God, it's all about metals in the brain, how they become alloys. See, people don't realize that

Speaker 1 when you're under stress, your brain heats up. And when your brain heats up, it can actually, because microscopic levels like septo and octo of metal, it can actually

Speaker 1 transform in your brain and shift and shape-shift shift in your brain. You got mercury, you got aluminum, you got copper in your brain.

Speaker 1 It can actually meld together, creating an alloy, a toxic, toxic heavy metal alloy in the brain, right? And heating of the brain from your electrical impulses and stress. Somebody pisses you off.

Speaker 1 They text you. Somebody, you get some problem breaking up in a relationship.
Maybe you're an abusive relationship. Maybe you're just miserable and you're under so much stress.

Speaker 1 Your brain's constantly under fire. Electrical impulses are heating everything up.
And then you got all all these different components of mercury, aluminum, copper, lead.

Speaker 1 And then all of a sudden, that stuff just starts to meld together because it can melt together under that kind of heat because it's so microscopic, the metal, it's malleable at a low temp.

Speaker 1 And I talk all about it in Brainsaver, right? And these alloys make it so now your OCD is worse than ever. How many people got OCD out there? Tons.
Probably me.

Speaker 1 Suffering from OCD, like real bad OCD, the kind where you can't even like, you can't even get out of a a room. You can't even get out of a room, right?

Speaker 1 You can't open up the refrigerator, that kind of OCD, because you got, when you close your refrigerator, you think you close it a thousand times.

Speaker 1 Or the OCD that a lot of people freak out about, where it's not really that. It's not about light switches and

Speaker 1 stoves. I'm like, dude, it's a lot about stoves and light switches and door locks.
It is. But it's also, there's so many varieties of OCD about thoughts and repeating thoughts.

Speaker 1 I could go on forever for OCD. I just don't want the OCD police going after me.
No, no, no, I don't. He doesn't understand OCD.
Hate him, hate him, hate him. That's right.
Listen, listen.

Speaker 2 But while you're talking about OCD, can you tell us what someone can do who is, if they are listening?

Speaker 1 Getting the medals out. OCD, OCD

Speaker 1 is

Speaker 1 the repetitive hitting of an electrical impulse going through neurons and slamming into a pocket of metal and then going back the other way. It can't go through.
It hits and goes back the other way.

Speaker 1 And when it goes back the other way, another electrical impulse with the same thought, the same thought is, you know,

Speaker 1 I want to kill myself or some other thought somebody has that's just taking over. And there we go.

Speaker 1 That electrical impulse has that thought in it and it comes down and it slams into the other electrical impulse.

Speaker 1 They hit together and then another one comes down and they hit together, but they can't push through because they're hitting a pocket of alloy or mercury or a pocket of metal and they're hitting this and that's OCD.

Speaker 1 Finally, you go into this fever heat. You go into this healing crisis and at two o'clock in the morning, all of a sudden your body shuts down, your brain shuts down and you go to sleep.

Speaker 1 You shut down because eventually that electrical impulse had to find a new route. You wake up in the morning, it starts all over again or later on that day.
That's OCD, right?

Speaker 1 That's information that's so advanced. Nobody can touch that information.
I'm proud of it. It's SOC's information.

Speaker 1 I can never come up with any of that, but it's life-saving because then you learn how to take the metals out.

Speaker 2 How do you take the metals out?

Speaker 1 The right kind of heavy metal detox, not the bullshit out there. The right kind that works.
And we got a track record of so many people getting their lives back. Tell me.

Speaker 1 That's the difference right there.

Speaker 2 Okay, tell me what the right, not chelation. Is that the kind?

Speaker 1 You got to have five ingredients. They got to be working hand in hand together or throughout the day.
You got to have a spirulina, a good spirulina.

Speaker 1 You got to have a barleygrass juice powder, not a barley grass, a barleygrass juice powder. Got to have a cilantro.

Speaker 1 You got to have dulse, Atlantic Coast seaweed, sea vegetable, dulse, and you got to have wild blueberries.

Speaker 1 Got to have those five has to be throughout the day, or it has to be all in one thing, or in a bowl or something with other fruits, but you got to have that. Check out medical medium information.

Speaker 1 Learn how to get the metals out. Get rid of your OCD.
Get rid of your

Speaker 1 depersonalization, your bipolar diagnosis, get rid of your suffering, get the metals out of your brain.

Speaker 1 And just so you know, metals being the cause of all those things are original medical medium information. And that's the other incredible thing all on its own.

Speaker 1 I don't want anybody thinking of, oh, that information must have been out there since he's talking about it. No, it is our information, SOC's information.

Speaker 2 How often should somebody be drinking this concoction? Every day. Every day.

Speaker 1 Or a couple times a week or every other day. Whatever they can do, maybe make it smaller if you don't want to make it bigger, but just you got to start and move your life forward.

Speaker 1 Millions have, and they've gotten their lives back. I didn't get this far because of PR campaigns and bullshit book scams and all kinds of stuff that they're all doing.

Speaker 1 I got this far from putting this information and people healing with this information out there.

Speaker 2 Okay, I have one for you because I know this is something that's very hot right now is

Speaker 2 ADHD, ADD. Is there any kind of diet? Is there any type of

Speaker 1 such an easy one to fix?

Speaker 2 Yeah, how do you fix ADHD?

Speaker 1 So just the the heavy metal detox, the medical meme heavy metal detox. Such an easy one to fix.

Speaker 2 That one's just the same one as well.

Speaker 1 So ridiculously easy. Throw in some celery juice, properly done.
You got to look up medical meme information, but throw in some celery juice, heavy metal detox in there.

Speaker 1 Learn about maybe the medical medium morning cleanse where you're keeping the fats out away from the morning and do some lemon water in the morning. ADHD, kiss it goodbye.
See you later, alligator.

Speaker 1 Such an easy one. And that's the whole point you're not allowed to heal that many people.
And we've done that. And that's why I'm still censored in places.

Speaker 1 And that's why people do hate me because they don't understand the loyalty, the amount of people that have healed, the people that speak good about medical. They just can't put their finger on it.

Speaker 1 I'm not an MD. They don't understand it.
The social media, like the social media doctors that never practiced before, they get on social, they just talk shit. They don't get it.

Speaker 1 Meanwhile, they never got one person better in their whole career.

Speaker 1 It's information that changes lives.

Speaker 2 That's bottom line.

Speaker 2 Basically, let's say people are drinking this concoction for ADD, right? And including celery drews. How long does it take to see

Speaker 2 some type of it could be days for a lot of people?

Speaker 1 The brain fog starts to lift. It could be, and then all of a sudden the brain fog's lifting.
Now ADD, ADHD is starting to lift. You know, it could be a couple of months.

Speaker 1 Somebody could have so much metal in there where it's not just ADHD. It's ADHD plus some bipolar, plus some mania, plus a little bit of schizo.
Like, you know, schizophrenia, it could be everything.

Speaker 1 And then you start knocking them one at a time. Like, my depersonalization is better.
Schizophrenia is getting better. Hey, my DHD, my ADHD just got better.
Like, you know, my OCD is getting better.

Speaker 1 And it all depends, but you chip away because this world's death by a thousand cuts. And it's, there's so many traps and snares and potholes out there for everybody right now.

Speaker 1 And it's a game right now. The health movement is such a game.
It's actually sickening. But, you know, just got to put your big boy pants on and take it one day at a time.

Speaker 2 So, do you believe in chelation? Is that the thing that's called? When they pull it out of you?

Speaker 1 Yeah, until the medical media and information changed the term. It's called heavy metal detox.
That's MM, starting from the start. They never called heavy metal detox heavy metal detox.

Speaker 1 That's MM info. And it's worldwide now.
That's my term. It's started so many years ago.
They used to call just chelation chelation. and they usually just did it for lead.
That's it.

Speaker 1 They did it for lead for children that ate paint chips. That's all that was.
It was chelation for lead for paint chips for children. Medical, medium, heavy metal detox is the term.
Yep.

Speaker 1 And I've been doing that stuff and getting out there for 40 years. That's right.

Speaker 2 Wow.

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Speaker 2 What about anything else? Is there like a

Speaker 2 watermelon? Anything specific

Speaker 2 food-wise that you think everybody should be eating every day?

Speaker 1 Try to grow a mulberry tree. Get yourself a mulberry tree.
Did you plant one here? No. You gotta.
A mulberry tree. Yeah.
Plant one here. Get some mulberries growing.

Speaker 1 Go out there and pick some mulberries, you know?

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah. Why? Before you go out to your appointments and go out to go do this.
Really? Go out and do that. Before you hop on your treadmill, before you start doing your work, go outside and do

Speaker 1 shop online for different clothes. Go outside and pick some mulberries.
Why? Because they're loaded with the antioxidants that make a difference. They got trace minerals in them that are critical.

Speaker 1 The roots go deep into the earth. The other one is wild blueberries.
Get some wild blueberries.

Speaker 2 I eat tons of berries. Wild blueberries? No.

Speaker 1 Berries suck. Wild blueberries? That's the key.
Berries are great. They don't suck that bad.
They just don't move the needle entirely.

Speaker 1 They don't do what a wild blueberry and a mulberry can do, especially a wild blueberry.

Speaker 1 Whoa, those are a whole nother thing too, because they're removing so many metals from the brain it's just such a great thing really so let's say i had a smoothie every day with yeah just wild blueberries don't put almond butter in there and coconut oil and cacao and no you know the cacao in there and the chocolate in there no don't don't destroy your smoothie do something like clean and pure

Speaker 1 tell me what to do throw some wild blueberries in there maybe if you want a couple of bananas in there throw um protein powder protein powder put all that crappy natural flavor crap and everything else What if it's a good protein powder?

Speaker 1 What's a good protein powder?

Speaker 2 I love Momentous. Have you tried it?

Speaker 1 What's on the ingredient list?

Speaker 2 I can show it to you. They're third-party tested.
They're NSF certified. Yeah.

Speaker 2 They are supposed to be one of the cleanest ones out there.

Speaker 1 But we don't do anything with straight protein. No, but you put it in a smoothie or yogurt or whatever.
No, I mean, straight protein doesn't do anything for the body.

Speaker 1 Like if you just isolated protein and had somebody on that as a diet for about three months, they would look like a Holocaust victim.

Speaker 2 That's probably true.

Speaker 1 It is true. So, you know, what happens is that protein isn't like the answer.
That whole protein thing is a whole nother problem on its own. So I just made 10 more friends.

Speaker 1 Or did I just lose 10 more friends?

Speaker 1 I just lost a bunch of friends. It's fantastic.
You lost a lot of friends.

Speaker 1 You know what? I still have to say, you know what, though? Those friends. Five years down the road will start hearing every day that protein isn't what we thought it was.

Speaker 1 Well, no, I just had a whole podcast about this.

Speaker 2 Protein has been so, it's like, it's like the trend right now.

Speaker 1 It's all about protein.

Speaker 2 Are people just over-protein themselves?

Speaker 1 I talked about it 10 years ago in the medical medium books before anybody even uttered it. Yeah, I mean, it's people are just over-proteining themselves.

Speaker 1 Protein isn't the answer to really fix anything. It doesn't fix chronic illness.
You get sick or have a symptom. Protein makes it worse.
It just makes it worse. Why?

Speaker 1 Whether it's plant protein, like whether it's beans and just all bean protein, whether it's just all and only pea protein, whether it's just animal protein, If you're focused on just protein only and you're sick, you're going to get sicker.

Speaker 1 Why? Because there's no real glucose. There's no living water.
There's no trace minerals. There's the things that actually heal you.

Speaker 1 They're the things that you need to recover your central nervous system, your vagus nerves. You sit there like messing with protein all the time.
When you get sick, that's another trap.

Speaker 1 You're just going to go

Speaker 1 down the road, you know? But what you do, you've got... Proteins naturally in everything anyway.
The mango has protein in it. Spinach has protein in it.

Speaker 1 All the leafy greens, arugula has protein in it. You know, you can get protein virtually everywhere in anything.
You don't need to do the powders and hammer on like isolated factory-made protein.

Speaker 1 I don't care if it's third-party testing.

Speaker 1 All right, I think I tortured you enough on this episode. Wait a second.
I got one more question about you're going to need like Dr. Spock from

Speaker 1 to give you a mind meld of some kind to get you back into the trends and the biohacks.

Speaker 2 No, but you say, oh, yeah, this is what I wanted to ask you: the food. Which all this controversy over spinach, tomatoes.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I pretty much cleaned up the controversy on tomatoes pretty much.

Speaker 1 People in the health movement never even went near a tomato because of nightshades. Yeah.
I pretty much destroyed that.

Speaker 1 People were eating tomatoes again by publishing all the information about how tomatoes.

Speaker 2 Oh, tomatoes are good for you.

Speaker 1 Oh, amazing for you. What's just an incredible food for you?

Speaker 2 How about spinach?

Speaker 1 Oh, it's so good for you. Raw.
Yeah. But you know the thing? Raw spinach is so good.
There's a medical medium spinach soup. People swear by.

Speaker 1 It helps them, gets their brain back, gets electrolytes to their brain, trace mineral salts to their brain. Spinach soup is beautiful, but cooked spinach isn't my favorite.
It's raw spinach.

Speaker 1 That's the key.

Speaker 1 You get all the people to worry warts about, you know, oxalic acid, oxalates, all that stuff. It's just, they've been given misinformation.

Speaker 1 And that's the problem, you know, between that and pearl powder and collagen crap and colostrum, which is bullshit and doesn't fix anybody.

Speaker 1 They're just taking it from the baby baby calves right all of that is just doesn't work you know and people are just stuck in all these traps and that's one of them wow okay so i can ask you a bazillion questions so from my what i got that's why the most powerful people in the world except for elon musk reached out to me and like i need to ask you like 50 questions and i'm on the phone for like ever tell me

Speaker 1 what's the next one what's the next one what's the next one they're like my mind's blown i can't believe it well we can send this to elon musk so say you want to be back on on x X, and he should unsend it.

Speaker 1 I want it working. I'm on X, it's just not working.

Speaker 2 Okay, well, there you go.

Speaker 1 Maybe he'll hear it, and maybe he'll take off the glitch that Twitter once put on many years ago. Maybe, where they just stopped it.
They just stopped.

Speaker 2 Listen, stranger things have happened.

Speaker 2 You have a spirit talking to you every day. I think that, yeah, if that can happen every day, then maybe Elon can help you.

Speaker 1 You never know.

Speaker 2 You never know. But so far, mulberry tree, and everyone should have a mulberry tree.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they should.

Speaker 2 We talked about ACD.

Speaker 1 They should be a wild blueberries.

Speaker 1 Oh, wild blueberries. Not blueberries.
Not the blueberries of the pint-sized clamshell, you know, plastic container where it's just an organic blueberries.

Speaker 2 Frozen wild blueberries. It's just a lot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, of course. That's the way to get it.
That's what, okay. Frozen wild blueberries.

Speaker 2 Do you know what's really weird or funny is that, like, you became like super well-known because of

Speaker 2 celery blue.

Speaker 1 Unfortunately. Yeah, well.
Well, no, no. I'm also a household name from people healing around the world.

Speaker 2 Well, but the main challenge.

Speaker 1 Heavy metal detox, that actually.

Speaker 2 Heavy metal detox was a big one. Isn't that like, was celery juice? Does that what the claim was? That celery juice was how was healthy?

Speaker 1 Well, here's the problem with celery juice. Okay.
Yeah. So here's the problem, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 The problem is before the health industry turned into a total money-making like marketing machine where it's a doggy dog world, like I was explaining before.

Speaker 1 Before that happened, everybody was like, yeah, celery juice, it's healing me.

Speaker 1 And then every single supermodel and every single influencer decided to wake up one morning and say, I'm going to bank and I'm going to sell my own shit.

Speaker 1 And then they're like, I'm not talking about the celery juice no more because no one makes a penny off of it. Right.
Barely the farms do, but you can't keep celery in stores.

Speaker 1 There's like thousands of new farms. It's the number one freaking herb selling.

Speaker 1 It is, it is a worldwide phenomenon and people are drinking it every day, but you don't hear a peep because if you start squealing about it, it brings me up. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And no one's being paid. You know what I mean? You're not being paid for talking about me, you know? So no one's, you know, that's one reason.
The other reason is nobody can make money.

Speaker 1 They can't bank off of it.

Speaker 2 Well, there's a million companies making celery juice, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it's not a big banker. Yeah, it's not a big deal.
There's not a big margin. There's not a big, like, you can't really, it's just

Speaker 1 people make it at home. Yeah, they make it at home.

Speaker 2 And it's also, you have all these rules around it, right? Like, you can't make it. What is it? Like, you can't have it.

Speaker 1 Don't put lemon in there. You can if you want.
You can put lemon in there if you want. If you're not going to drink it otherwise.
What was the other thing?

Speaker 1 If you're somebody that's like headstrong, you could put lemon in there. If you're somebody that's headstrong, put apple in there.

Speaker 1 If you're somebody that doesn't like the flavor, put some apple in there. You can do that.
But it had to be fresh or 24 hours. I remember all these like rules.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you want to drink it fresh, you know, and you want to strain it after you juice it.

Speaker 1 You want to drink it pretty soon, but not just that. You want to drink enough of it.
You don't want to just eat celery and think you're going to fix yourself. You know, I mean,

Speaker 1 the whole thing with the dietitian thing, when celery juice exploded and I was like, like all of a sudden, everybody knew who I was or whatever.

Speaker 1 Everybody, what happened was dietitians came out. There was like a hundred media articles on me.
This guy hears a voice. He's not a doctor.

Speaker 1 He's not an MD, right? Just hundreds of them everywhere. And all these dietitians, they would get on there in the articles.
And the dietitians would be like, you really need to eat celery. Juicing it.

Speaker 1 doesn't give you the fiber.

Speaker 1 And you know what I mean? Like that's all you heard. It's like, okay, if you're chronically sick and you just eat it, you're not going to get better.
You know what I mean? You just need to do it.

Speaker 1 You got to do.

Speaker 2 I totally remember that. Okay, I've got a couple business questions for you.
I have to, right? Well, because I'm curious. You don't do the circuit at all.

Speaker 2 Like, for example, I'm going to eudaimonia next week. I'm speaking at this place called Eudaimonia.

Speaker 1 It's a health summit.

Speaker 2 You have all the health people. You'd be phenomenal.
I'm sure everyone would love to see you, hear you, you know, be on a panel or do a talk, whatever.

Speaker 1 I'm asked to do a lot of those things.

Speaker 2 I was going to say, you just don't want to do it.

Speaker 1 You know, I probably would rather like watch regular TV, something people don't watch, and watch a a bunch of reruns from like 1970s than put myself through the painstaking

Speaker 1 abuse of watching other speakers give out bad advice to a bunch of people on a speaker but you know what though you know what though what i i mean i at the same time i respect everybody who's doing it like but here's the thing you have to understand like i say these things only in the defense of the chronically ill other than that i have respect for people and and and speakers and

Speaker 1 yeah okay but no i want people to know i'm not a a total dick. I'm actually not actually respecting for a lot of people.
Okay, wait, wait.

Speaker 2 So, like,

Speaker 2 maybe not a panel, you're right, because it would be weird for conflicting information, blah, blah, blah. But even to like be like a fireside chat, like you and I would do a fireside chat somewhere.

Speaker 1 Are you never open to those things? No, I am. I am.
It's just that I'm busy actually writing real books. Yes, I am.
200,000-word books that are literally saving people's lives.

Speaker 1 And, you know, like, like these books are so fat. They're so packed.
There's no fluff in them. And I sit in a chair.

Speaker 1 My exercise is sitting on a chair and doing this year after year after year. These things are so hard to do.
Yeah. You know, I have to have the back of the chronically ill.

Speaker 1 If I go gallivanting, I can't tell you how many times Hollywood's knocked on my door. Like top producers, we can do a medical medium TV series in two seconds slot.
And you don't want to do that.

Speaker 1 We can throw people in front of you. You can do like your light work.
We can, we can, we, and, and I'm like, I got books to write. They're like, books?

Speaker 1 Who cares about books this is what the hollywood producers say to me all the time who cares that's just a business card man who gives a about books i have them like you know what i mean they're like we can do tv shows 24 7 with you you can be like the gordon ramsey of like of the health movement with what you do you hear a voice for god's sake and i'm like dude that's gonna take me away for for years for writing the books and then i don't want to chase the flashy thing but then some mornings i wake up and i'm like spirit i'm i'm gonna go for it i'm calling that i'm calling that you know producer back you know what i mean why don't you you've never explored doing like an eight-part series on netflix or something like that i haven't no i haven't explored it at all i've had a lot of knocks on the door you do well you got five million people on instagram following you well that's not including facebook it's not including my other platforms i'm i'm i think i'm way above 10 million so Oh, I'm sure.

Speaker 2 I don't even know how much. How many people does he have following him? Probably like 20 million.
Well, on Facebook alone, probably you have a ton.

Speaker 1 No, i got a lot on facebook i don't think it's 10 but i got a bunch but yeah i mean it's yeah it's crazy no you have a but that's observed but it's not you know what it really is too what it's it's the word of mouth out there and and everybody posting because they're healing and and the medical medium is in every feed in in everywhere in every genre it's insane you know and i've been blessed because of the information actually working if this information i know if it didn't work i would be so screwed i would be like Yeah, yeah, I'm the medical medium.

Speaker 1 Do you want to come and talk to me?

Speaker 2 Well, yeah, that's that's the part that's I'm telling you, that's the part that's a little bit freaky is because, like, the truth of the matter is you have people that you've actually legit helped.

Speaker 2 Because it wasn't like if you go online, people are like, Oh, yeah, he helped me with this. He did this with me.

Speaker 2 So, it's like, well, there has to be something to it if there is these people, you know, are these people. Sorry, I should say, yeah, there's a lot.
So, like, okay, so no TV right now.

Speaker 1 I mean, look, I might do some stuff and I might do some different forms and I might do some different talks and everything. I got stuff with Gaia.
I'm working with Gaia.

Speaker 1 So, you know, I'm going to do some stuff with them, you know? Yeah, but that's old school. I mean, I'm talking like...
Oh, man, come on. Don't put down old school.
No, but I'm saying like...

Speaker 2 Old school's cool. You should do a six-part.

Speaker 1 I forget. I know, I know.
Netflix.

Speaker 2 Netflix or like Hulu, like a six-part series. That would just, and you would sell a...
10 bill zillion more books than you already have.

Speaker 1 I agree 100%.

Speaker 2 And you know what I like about this is that I could be your agent. No, because I think

Speaker 1 I can do it. Is that

Speaker 2 10%?

Speaker 2 I'm not 10%.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying. I want 20%.

Speaker 2 But I was going to say, I want to.

Speaker 1 You want 50%. 50%.
15%.

Speaker 2 15%. No, not 50%.
I'll take 15%. All right.
And I think we should show.

Speaker 1 But if I go in debt by doing too much charity,

Speaker 1 like I do, because I use all my money to do all kinds of events for my community, if I go in debt or something or lose all my money, will you break that 50% open a little and give me some of that back?

Speaker 2 Listen, I know about that.

Speaker 2 All right, all right, all right.

Speaker 2 obviously, you're doing fine, obviously, with the amount of books you're selling.

Speaker 2 But what I would say is this: that like if you did a four to six part series on like a Netflix or a Hulu, you'd be open to a whole new audience that you never had.

Speaker 2 Sell all these other books, the Ripple Effect, but you don't want to do all the other ancillaries that come with it. You don't want to do the speaking gigs.
You don't want to go on these tours.

Speaker 2 You don't want to probably do all those things. Yeah.
Which then kind of, but that's okay. We can work around it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think this is a good angle for you.

Speaker 1 Well, you know, I just was in Barnes and Noble.

Speaker 1 I've been turning down Barnes and Noble at book signing there for 10 years. Yes.
One reason why did you do it now?

Speaker 1 One reason because, you know, it would be really hard probably for them to handle the amount of people because I did a book sign in Culver City and almost 30,000 people showed and they shut the city down.

Speaker 1 And in the city, the entire police department, entire fire department, they had to tell me to leave by three o'clock, by two o'clock or something in the afternoon.

Speaker 1 It was because the city was shutting down. It couldn't even function anymore.
There were 30,000 people there.

Speaker 1 And so what happens is, I mean, I could do Coliseum gigs, but I just don't, it's a lot of work, man. A lot of like, oh my God.

Speaker 1 And the thing is, is, is basically the bottom line is, if I do like the lecture circuit or anything like that, like you're saying, you know, it's, I want to make sure, okay, I did the Barnes and Noble book signing and I did a light blast for each individual at the Barnes and Noble book signing, right?

Speaker 1 So each person, I asked Spirit of Compassion to do a little light work.

Speaker 1 And maybe anybody listening or watching this right now, they know about light work, and they maybe they believe in the spiritual aspect of light work and healing light and this in that supernatural aspect and angels and other stuff.

Speaker 1 But it was doing light work on each individual, you know. I they're not going to be able to do that other speaking engagements when I'm mixed in with a bunch of different people.

Speaker 1 So I can't be like, there's so many rules and regulations. I can imagine the producers in one of those forums or one of those gigs being like, What do you want to do, AW?

Speaker 1 You want to bring up the crowd and give them light work? You want to do a light blast? You know, they're not going to allow that. They're just so, so it's, I'm really.
They will allow it. They will.

Speaker 2 You should be able to be a master of your own, of your own destiny.

Speaker 1 I'm in it for the chronically ill. I got their back.
That's all I care about.

Speaker 2 But you could go into the, you could do like in the audience and be like, hey, you should. And like, Bob, what's your problem?

Speaker 1 And you could do that.

Speaker 1 If we can find ways on a commercial level, like you're talking about, right?

Speaker 2 Yes, I'm right. To do this,

Speaker 1 to keep the integrity to the chronically sick, where I don't lose any of that integrity.

Speaker 2 It has nothing to do with the chronically sick. You can still be helping the chronically sick and be helping them.

Speaker 2 Like, do you know how many shmegeggies are out there doing like all sorts of like, you know, live podcasts and live events? And like, and like they are, it's a whole business.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 And even if you did like five city thing, right? Like or four cities or whatever it is, even stay in LA and do like different areas or whatever.

Speaker 1 And then you had like 2,000 people in the audience and you just would, but you'd be like, okay, Bill, okay, John, and just five ten minutes and then you can just have questions answered like i think it would be a really nice extension yes i think so and you could pull the shots listen you got great advice you're definitely well experienced you're well versed you're seasoned with the business aspect of it too yes and you could always look we'll talk and give you some advice and stuff i'm gonna tell you

Speaker 1 you should do it this way and you should try this

Speaker 2 i mean i'm not just giving you lip service i think this is business talk we're on right now man exactly

Speaker 2 i am giving you like i'm telling you like a direction that I think can make you like a huge vertical, another revenue stream. Not like you care about the money.
You don't have any products.

Speaker 2 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 I don't want to be underneath a bridge. You're not wrapped in newspapers.

Speaker 1 You're not.

Speaker 1 Trust me.

Speaker 2 You have an entourage of 47 people. You're not going to be under a bridge.
You can sleep on their couch of worse.

Speaker 2 I just think that you have like a lot of, like, I think you're so interesting.

Speaker 2 You're so interesting and different and unique that that should be like explored a little bit more. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 I'm honored.

Speaker 2 And like, you have a lot of people who are doing much less in the world who have, who are doing a lot more, is all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 You can know, and I know that too. You know that.
I know, like, I know the game. I know.

Speaker 2 Well, we could talk about this offline if you want.

Speaker 1 Yeah, offline. We will.
We will. Okay.
We'll talk about it offline.

Speaker 2 But okay. Of course.
The new book is called Life-Changing Foods Expanded Edition by Anthony Williams.

Speaker 1 Expanded edition. That's the difference.
It's got to be the expanded edition.

Speaker 2 It has to be.

Speaker 1 It's packed. It's so

Speaker 1 the first edition was the number one New York Times best-selling book. It's changed so many lives.
It's healed a lot of people of chronic illness, like big time, like really has.

Speaker 1 But this is a whole nother book or more, even more on top of that.

Speaker 2 No, it's amazing. It's so packed.

Speaker 2 All your books, though, have so much information.

Speaker 1 I talk about mind control in this book.

Speaker 1 I mean, I talk about like all kinds of stuff. Mind control.
I didn't see that. There's a little touch in that.
It's part of the unforgiving six that holds people back. I talk about pathogens.

Speaker 1 I talk about all kinds of different things chronic illness you name it it's packed mind control i didn't i don't know how i my mind there's so much mind control that's why we're going to have you plant a mulberry tree and you're going to stop your busy life for 10 seconds and you're going to walk out there and you're going to grab that magical mulberry yeah and then all of that entire conditioning that's happened to you

Speaker 1 it's going to get shocked out of you the minute you grab it and you put it in your mouth i hope you're then you'll be back to everything okay good i'm going to do that i actually asked no no dude i'm just you You know, I'm just.

Speaker 2 Is a blackberry okay?

Speaker 1 Blackberries are close to wild. They are.

Speaker 1 That is one free,

Speaker 1 you know, out of the berries. Yeah.
It's a great one. All berries are good for you.
They are. Hands down.
They are. But yeah, but blackberries,

Speaker 1 they're in a high league.

Speaker 2 Better than blueberries? Like, basically?

Speaker 1 Yeah, better than the regular blueberry. Not the wild blueberry.
Yeah. The blackberry is better than the regular blueberry.
Hands down. Blackberries are really potent.

Speaker 1 There's some varieties that are basically close to wild.

Speaker 2 It's crazy. Is it better to have organic? Was it always better?

Speaker 1 It's always best to have organic, but always keep in mind, organic spray too. Yes.
They spray, you know, I've been breaking that out in the scene. I got so much hate for that one.

Speaker 1 You know, organic still sprays the nicotine. They still spray the caffeine.
They spray all the copper, freaking industrialized copper sprayed on all the freaking organic stuff.

Speaker 1 It's like, you know what I mean? Yeah. It's like, you know, conventional produce is so bad.
Are you crazy using,

Speaker 1 dude? There's a lot of copper spray

Speaker 1 and a lot of nicotine. You got to wash your organic produce.
You're going to be all jacked up, you know, possibly like all like nicotine, caffeine, copper to your brain. Like,

Speaker 1 yeah, you have to, you have to know to wash your stuff.

Speaker 2 Okay, then that's good to know. I'm going to do that.
Okay. Well, people should do that also.
Just be aware.

Speaker 1 And I have a recommendation. Anybody that has listened or watched this episode, please listen and watch it again.
Yeah. Because, because there's a lot of info in here.
And

Speaker 1 I was kind of going high speed on it. We were going high speed.

Speaker 2 There's so much. Listen, I could do 77 podcasts with you.
This is like, this is just like touching. This is like a surface.

Speaker 1 And it took four years for me to come back.

Speaker 2 I know. Actually, it's 23 to 45.
Three and a half. Three and a half.
Yeah. Okay.
But still, it took a long time.

Speaker 1 Don't quote me on it. I believe you.

Speaker 2 I'm just happy that I'm just happy you came back. How about that? I'm just happy you came back.

Speaker 1 I'm honored. I'm on.

Speaker 2 And this is going to be, we're going to do this hopefully before another three and a half years. We're going to be on tour together.

Speaker 1 All right. It's very possible.
We are. I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 I can feel it. My, my story is.

Speaker 1 The chronically ill could really use your like ingeniousness, your experience.

Speaker 2 I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 Because we have to help them.

Speaker 2 We're going to, I'm going to talk. Listen, this is, we're going to finish this conversation.
I'm not done with you yet, but I'm done on the podcast with you.

Speaker 2 So Medical Medium, follow him, buy his book.

Speaker 2 And books. And books.

Speaker 1 Get them all. Get them all.
You'll be blown away.

Speaker 1 If you're a reader, if you're somebody that loves to read, you're just minds going to be blown. Those brain favorite books, even medical medium book one, expanded edition of that.

Speaker 1 Like, just, oh my God, liver rescue, cleanse the heal. That's a good liver rescue is good.
Just pick up Cleanse the Heal. Did you know on Amazon.com in the US?

Speaker 1 I just saw it was going for like $12 for the hard copy. It's a massive book.

Speaker 2 No, they're all massive books. Okay, guys, try it out.
Look at it.

Speaker 2 Read one, read two, read 10, and we'll talk later.

Speaker 1 Bye.