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Though Jesperson has clearly left his mark on both of their lives, Don and Melissa manage to find solace in their shared experiences.
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Speaker 16 Don Finley is the son of Julie Winningham, my father's last victim. I had heard that he wanted to do the things that my dad did to his mom to me.
Speaker 16 I want him to know how sorry I am for what my father did.
Speaker 13 I think he's behind me.
Speaker 17 He looks tense.
Speaker 13 She walks up to Don and without saying anything, he opens up his arms and they embrace.
Speaker 18 She was a kind-hearted, good soul, and he broke every rule that he ever had set for victims that he was going to do this to, right? Right. My mom broke every rule because of her soul.
Speaker 18 He felt something different with her.
Speaker 19 The detectives came up to Spokane and they questioned my mom.
Speaker 17 Then she said,
Speaker 17 your dad's in jail for murder.
Speaker 19 I want to know what you saw.
Speaker 18
No one knows this. I haven't told anybody.
They open up a room, white walls, silver table. My mom has a sheet covered up to her neck.
That's the last time I saw my mom.
Speaker 16 This was a multi-year relationship. And if he could do that to her, he could do that to anybody.
Speaker 13 Julie was found when a local resident stopped to take a scenic picture.
Speaker 18 Why did the universe tell that person to stop right here?
Speaker 19 If your mom's body wasn't found, he would still be out there today.
Speaker 20 In the pines,
Speaker 20 in the pines,
Speaker 20 where the sun don't ever shine,
Speaker 20 I would shiver
Speaker 20 the whole night through.
Speaker 22 What did you think about doing to
Speaker 20 keep?
Speaker 18 Do you really want to know that?
Speaker 20 Yeah, yeah, I do.
Speaker 18 I mean, I've had, I wanted to torture him. I've thought of burying him up to his, you know what I mean, Just cutting little cuts, letting animals eat, you know, all kinds of sick and twisted thoughts.
Speaker 18 Those aren't normal thoughts.
Speaker 19 What did you think when you had those thoughts?
Speaker 20 They were wrong.
Speaker 18 It's not right.
Speaker 20 But it was, yeah, I've had wild, wild, wild thoughts.
Speaker 13 Gandhi once said: the weak weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.
Speaker 13 But how does some find the strength to forgive the unforgivable?
Speaker 13 I'm Lauren Bright Pacheco, and this is Happy Face.
Speaker 5 From the Oregonian, December 20th, 1995, by John Painter Jr.
Speaker 5 The last of Keith Hunter Jesperson's sentences for three Northwest murders was handed down Tuesday when a Clark County judge ordered him to serve a minimum of 34 and a half years in prison for killing a Camas woman last March.
Speaker 5 He earlier had admitted strangling Julie Winningham, 43, and the sleeper of his long-haul truck.
Speaker 5 The sentence will be served consecutively to two consecutive Oregon murder sentences, guaranteeing that Jesperson, 40, will die in prison.
Speaker 5 At the sentencing, Winningham's son, Don Findley, described the mother as a kind person willing to help others. Quote, you killed her, putting her family in darkness.
Speaker 13 Melissa, Noel, and I had spent an emotional few hours with Don. We'd had him walk us through what he'd gone through after Keith had brutally murdered his mom, Julianne Winningham.
Speaker 13 how hard it was to be surrounded by the things that reminded him of his mom, and the tail spin it had put his life in.
Speaker 13 But the thing that Melissa wanted to truly understand was, after carrying such anger, how did Don come to a place where he truly felt healed and how did he learn to forgive?
Speaker 13 Did you think about bringing a gun into the...
Speaker 20 Oh, yeah.
Speaker 18 They didn't have metal detectors.
Speaker 18 Every day of the trial, they didn't have metal detectors.
Speaker 18
One day, I walked out of the court. I was from me to your father.
There was nothing nothing stopping me. He was full shackles.
Nothing stopping me from just going at him.
Speaker 18 I didn't know then, but I know now why I didn't do it.
Speaker 18 Because he would have won.
Speaker 18 We are not here to take another life.
Speaker 20 Okay?
Speaker 18 It would have been over.
Speaker 18
He would have won. Because I went to his level of killing another human being.
And now
Speaker 18 I am happy he's in there because
Speaker 18
your life has been miserable. My life has been miserable.
I have healed. Your father will never heal and that is no longer your burden.
Speaker 18 No longer your burden.
Speaker 18 Do you know about the two people that were convicted for the crime?
Speaker 19 I know that Laverne was insistent that her
Speaker 20 boyfriend, John, was guilty
Speaker 19 of this crime and that she manufactured evidence to get him convicted and ultimately got her convicted as well, that they were found guilty and that they served some prison time.
Speaker 18 And can I ask you a question? Do you think they deserve to stay in prison for what they said they did? Or do you think they should have been released?
Speaker 19 They should have been released.
Speaker 20 Okay.
Speaker 18 Well, my opinion is he should have been released and she should have stayed in because she's the one who made the accusations.
Speaker 18 But they get out, as soon as they get out, they make a movie about it instantly within a month about their life story. Who are they to bring this up?
Speaker 18 I was really pissed off because if they wouldn't have confessed, they may have caught your father before my mom. But no.
Speaker 18 And it screwed everything up.
Speaker 18
He could have been caught. It may have never happened to my mom.
It could have saved four or five women because this lady confessed to a crime she didn't commit to get out of an abusive relationship.
Speaker 18
I've had to forgive her also to be able to move on. I have to forgive the detectives for not doing a thorough investigation.
I had to forgive all these people
Speaker 18
for not doing their job. And then I had to truly forgive your father.
I had to truly forgive my own father. I've had a lot of forgiving, and you have to forgive, not forget, to be able to move on.
on.
Speaker 13 For all of Don's words about forgiveness, it was apparent that Jesperson had very much gotten into his head.
Speaker 18 Do you know who Sandra London is?
Speaker 19 No, I've never heard the name.
Speaker 18 This is what your father did.
Speaker 18 Sandra London, who was in love with a serial killer named Dan Rawlings in Florida. He executed seven women with the machete.
Speaker 18 She wrote a book about him.
Speaker 18 Your father wrote Sandra London to ask her to write a book.
Speaker 18 She said, No, but I will create a computer book diary or whatever.
Speaker 18 So your father proceeds to write her, telling her how great it is to be in jail, how to get away with murder, how to do this. It's still on the internet today.
Speaker 18 It's like 22 pages.
Speaker 5 From the Oregonian, September 10th, 1997, by J. Todd Foster.
Speaker 5 Last year from prison, Jesperson wrote a Jacksonville, Florida woman who is fascinated with serial killers and thinks society should have unfettered access to their minds.
Speaker 5 Sandra London, 50, then posted Jesperson's letters word for word on the internet, as she has other killers' letters.
Speaker 5 On Jesperson's page, which features a rotating skull, he compares his victims to garbage he discarded along America's roadways as a long-haul truck driver.
Speaker 5 His most disturbing writings, however, are contained in the Self-Start serial killer kit, which offers web browsers a life-size blow-up doll named for one of his victims, Julianne Winningham.
Speaker 5 Winningham's son, Don Findlay, 25, of Vancouver, Washington, read Jesperson's website Tuesday and was appalled.
Speaker 18 He put in part of this stuff that he wrote:
Speaker 18 Get yourself start serial killer kit. It comes with a two-hour VHS tape of life and death situations that are guaranteed to scare the piss or arouse you, or both.
Speaker 18 Take your Julie Winningham blow-up doll with an extra spring-back neck. Take her mouth, put it over the head of your cock, and you'll soon have the living strength to squeeze the shit out of anybody.
Speaker 18 Why did he pick my mom?
Speaker 20 Your father had the galls to wink at me in court like it was fucking funny.
Speaker 20 I almost jumped over the fucking barrier and was grabbed
Speaker 20 because this man
Speaker 13 You could see how much Don was affected by Keith. He still carries that hurt.
Speaker 13 But perhaps what's most impressive is, even in that emotional state, how he handled himself on the stand.
Speaker 18 Tanya's brother and sister, you know, didn't really do in court like I did.
Speaker 20 Yeah.
Speaker 18 You know, you didn't see the whole thing on court. You know,
Speaker 18 I did the rebuttal to your father and I told him, this is the last thing I told him, I said, as Christians,
Speaker 18 I forgive you and God will punish you in the way you deserve to be punished. Your father put his head down.
Speaker 18 The judge had a tear coming out of his eye.
Speaker 18 The only reason your father is not dead is because he didn't kill two women in the state of Washington. But he did kill one right over there and right over there, just a mile and a half difference.
Speaker 22 What are your triggers? Like what triggers you even now having done all the work and feeling like you've healed? You were saying that it's everywhere. It's like emojis.
Speaker 20 It's Walmart. Why?
Speaker 18 Oh it was because only because of the simple fact of the title they gave him of the happy face killer. Psychologically that messed with my head everywhere i saw it would be a reminder of him
Speaker 18 now that i'm healed i'm over it but it was his thing he's not i can't let that beat me up because he'll still win as long as i have something going in me that he did i'm never gonna heal so i have to release it no matter how much it hurts so you would it you saw it everywhere everywhere everywhere back of jeeps
Speaker 18 Walmart, people's clothes, how many people walk around with the happy face with the bullet in the head? You know, how many people walk, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 18 All that stuff goes through my head, you know, and I'm like, just a flashback, everywhere I go, I see this guy. You know how many years it took me to get past that? I don't even know.
Speaker 22 God, it's like, it's literally like being haunted by a real-life boogeyman. Like, it, it, it.
Speaker 18 And I am an overthinker, and I believe your father did that on purpose. But then, on the other hand, I think that
Speaker 18 he was just being
Speaker 18 mischievous and smart ass and signing it with the happy face, not realizing. So I'm torn.
Speaker 19 It's exactly why he winked at you in court. It's his taking something so sinister and heinous and
Speaker 19 spinning it to the polar opposite of like putting,
Speaker 19
it's his sick sense of humor. It's his way of mocking people's pain.
It's his, he gets pleasure from that, and the smiley face is a mockery.
Speaker 20 I get it. Yeah.
Speaker 18 But why do you feel that your dad
Speaker 18 used my mom's name in the thing I told you about that you never knew about and didn't use Tanya Bennett or one of the other six victims?
Speaker 19
She was not his typical victim. I mean, he broke all of his rules with her.
I think it's because
Speaker 19 she stopped him.
Speaker 19 She's the reason he got caught, and so he resents her.
Speaker 5 From I, the Creation of a Serial Killer by Jack Olson.
Speaker 5 From his county jail cell, his curly brownish mane shorn by an inmate barber, Keith Jesperson continued his campaign to muddy the legal waters.
Speaker 5 Most of his confessional letters were sent after his own lawyer told him to shut up.
Speaker 5
The notes were uniformly upbeat. Quote, have a nice day.
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Speaker 13 Regardless of how Dawn defines the relationship between Keith and Julie, Melissa saw her as a woman who could have been her stepmother.
Speaker 13 That in some parallel universe, Melissa and Don could have been, would have been step-siblings.
Speaker 13 Instead, they're now forever linked by the emotional scars of Keith's crimes.
Speaker 19 This is a.
Speaker 20 I don't.
Speaker 19 I have my own answer to it, but do you think justice was served?
Speaker 18 At first,
Speaker 18 no.
Speaker 18 Now,
Speaker 20 yeah,
Speaker 18 because he loses.
Speaker 18 I told you.
Speaker 18 He has a miserable, horrible
Speaker 18 life.
Speaker 18 Me and you, we still have the opportunity to have this open freedom, positivity.
Speaker 18 He's around nothing but negative energy all day as his daughter. Take back your power.
Speaker 18 Take back that guilt and turn it into a positive, which you've tried to do by helping and reaching out and doing what you do for people.
Speaker 13 Melissa has tried throughout her adult life to use her career to connect the families of victims with the families of perpetrators in order to bring about closure and healing and ultimately forgiveness.
Speaker 19 I think you're right, you know, that there is some sort of divine intervention, but this is what I struggle with. Don, I struggle with this.
Speaker 19 Like, if there is divine intervention, why didn't that divine intervention intervene and save your mom?
Speaker 19 If the universe was telling this man to come and take a picture, couldn't the universe have told your mom to not be with my dad?
Speaker 18 Like I said, there's a plan.
Speaker 18 We are supposed to help the screwed up world that's out there. We need to show them that
Speaker 18
the evil doesn't always win. The villain doesn't always get away.
We are here, we are survivors. We did this.
It's been 22 years. We're done.
We're over it.
Speaker 18 Let's do us.
Speaker 18 The only animosity you have is something that you had no control over, and I had no control over. So, why should we let it control us any longer?
Speaker 18 It wasn't your choice to do what he did, it wasn't my choice, but yet we're letting his choices control ourselves.
Speaker 20 That's wrong.
Speaker 13 Melissa's most deeply rooted fear is that she is somehow like her father, capable of terrible things.
Speaker 13 Don almost immediately sensed the opposite. He didn't see the capacity for evil in her at all.
Speaker 18 You obviously
Speaker 18 are not him.
Speaker 20 Okay?
Speaker 18
Obviously. You're not.
So that needs to be the first thing.
Speaker 20 I'm scared, though. I'm scared.
Speaker 18 That's the first thing you need to get out. Is you're nothing.
Speaker 20
But I'm scared I look like him. No.
I have...
Speaker 20
I came from him. That's okay.
We can't. And because my heart is so turned off, I'm afraid I'm built like him.
Speaker 20 No. I don't want to hurt people, but I'm scared I like him.
Speaker 18 You're not like him because of that.
Speaker 18 You're like blocking feelings and being cold, whatever you think it may be, because this has been damaged so bad. All it did was get covered up and covered up and covered up and covered up.
Speaker 18 A scar.
Speaker 18
You can bring this up a hundred more times on television and that scab wouldn't reopen. It is a scar.
I am
Speaker 18
I am convinced that he is where he deserves to be. My mom's in a better place.
And he gave this to me and you to pass on to people that no matter what we go through in life,
Speaker 18 we can make it.
Speaker 13 Don also believed there was nothing accidental about the way in which his mother's body was found.
Speaker 18 Life leads us in a weird path.
Speaker 18 And
Speaker 18 we are the yin and the yang of one in 3.1 million. Did you know that? No.
Speaker 18 The odds of what your dad did to my mom is one in 3.1 million.
Speaker 18 Have you met that many people in your life?
Speaker 20 No.
Speaker 18
I have traveled the United States. I have gone as far as the Caribbean to run away.
And I still,
Speaker 18
the universe brings me back here. I moved all the way to St.
Thomas, to the top of an island. Leave me alone.
No one will know anything about me unless I won't tell them.
Speaker 18 But I still end up right back here.
Speaker 18 I worked in the town for six years as a local bartender, heard stories about my mom. People come across me every day and say, your name's not Leroy.
Speaker 18
People call me up out of the blue. I seen her on television again.
I saw you on television. So out of the blue, I'd get random calls.
Speaker 18 People would be Facebooking me from all around the country thinking I can help them. You know, so there was a lot going on.
Speaker 18 But to be able to heal, I told myself that your father
Speaker 18 needed to be put away.
Speaker 18 My mom lived a fulfilled, happy life. It was her time to go to a better place.
Speaker 20 It wasn't her time. Yes.
Speaker 20 It wasn't time.
Speaker 18 No, because God has a plan.
Speaker 20
Okay? No. God has a plan.
You have a fucking plan. Yes, He does.
He doesn't.
Speaker 18
Let's not call it God. Let's call it the universe.
Our universe has a plan for each and every one of us.
Speaker 20 This isn't a kind world.
Speaker 18 It isn't a kind world.
Speaker 20 I can't believe you see it so nice.
Speaker 20 I wish I could see this.
Speaker 18 I want to help you feel it.
Speaker 18 You have to let me.
Speaker 18 Because otherwise,
Speaker 18 you're going to end up the old cat lady.
Speaker 20 Oh, yeah, that would be horrible.
Speaker 13 Don, Leroy, whomever he believed himself to be at that moment, also believed that the universe kept putting people in his path for a reason, including a man in the back seat seat of his cab.
Speaker 18 I drive taxi and the weirdest stuff happens.
Speaker 18 I met a gentleman who was about 72 years old. He proceeds to tell me that he had a family and after raising his family he got tired of working for the man so he decided to start robbing banks.
Speaker 18 Well he ended up getting 18 years.
Speaker 18 He ended up in OSP.
Speaker 18
We proceed to talk. It's a five-hour journey.
Come to find out,
Speaker 18 he's been locked up the whole time your dad's been locked up. So this man proceeds to tell me what I already knew, how bad life was in prison, but how bad your father's life is.
Speaker 18 The stuff he told me made me happy
Speaker 18 because
Speaker 18 I am able to eat a steak. See a beautiful lady, go out and fish.
Speaker 18 You are still able to do that.
Speaker 18 He will never be able to do any of the pleasures in life again.
Speaker 19 What did he say that his life is like in prison?
Speaker 18 Well,
Speaker 18
basically, your dad lives in one building. He's not allowed to go out of the building.
He is
Speaker 18 can't go outside. He is in PC.
Speaker 18 What's PC? Protective custody.
Speaker 5 From I, The Creation of a Serial Killer by Jack Olson.
Speaker 5 Most of the cops and detectives who'd worked the case were pissed that I'd gotten two people out of prison and beat the death penalty myself.
Speaker 5 But some of them still had a morbid interest in Happy Face.
Speaker 5 When we pulled into the intake center in Clackamas, one guard asked if I would pose with him for a picture. I was put in solitary confinement in D-Block to keep me safe from other prisoners.
Speaker 5 Ladykillers and rapists ranked near the bottom of the food chain in the prison system, barely above child molesters and crooked cops. I was allowed one hour of yard time a day.
Speaker 5 No books, no cards, no nothing.
Speaker 5 Wherever I went, the pointy fingers came out. Everyone wanted a piece of the celebrity.
Speaker 18 So I'm telling this guy the whole story.
Speaker 18
And he proceeds to tell me how he's seen your dad get beat up many of times. Your dad is known as a snitch.
Your dad is locked in his cell. He comes out like an hour or two hours a day.
Speaker 18
How big is he now? I can just imagine with no exercise in a cage that's as big as he is, a foot wide. Think about it.
He's 6'8.
Speaker 18
The cell 6 by 9. And if all you do is put on weight, you got to be uncomfortable.
He never gets interaction with anybody.
Speaker 18 So this guy proceeds to tell me that he's even met your dad
Speaker 18 and Had controversy with him and I have every right to believe this guy because I feel it I've seen the tattoos and this is too odd
Speaker 18 and this man told me
Speaker 18 that he wanted me to stop at a bank so he could rob it and go back in to shank this guy because he deserves to die
Speaker 19 because he knew
Speaker 18 you explained who you were to him and the whole time in the cab ride he kept calling me the last victim's son instead of by my name.
Speaker 18 He's like
Speaker 18
the new generation of inmates aren't willing to do like the old school. Sum up a long story.
He told me that he talks to someone inside once a month. He said the next ass whooping,
Speaker 18 just person will know it's from me.
Speaker 19 Did it happen?
Speaker 18 How am I gonna know?
Speaker 18
I don't know. This was just a few months ago.
Don't you find that kind of odd? That out of the blue, a guy like this gets in my taxi?
Speaker 20 Yeah.
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Speaker 13 All of Melissa's fears about confrontation, about Don's hatred, his anger, about her father and what he'd done to Don's mother, everything.
Speaker 13 It was just finally over.
Speaker 13 And there was peace in a sort of strange, if not slightly broken way.
Speaker 13 There was love.
Speaker 19 I'm glad it's not the word.
Speaker 19 I'm thankful that you were willing to take me out here and show me. I know this isn't.
Speaker 19 I can tell that after this much time you, you know, this is a place you can go to, but
Speaker 19
my mind is just racing. I'm thinking of a million of things.
I'm thinking about
Speaker 19 thinking about my dad and like
Speaker 19 I'm picturing it in my mind.
Speaker 19 I've been in that cab of the truck. I'm picturing exactly what he said, what he must have done, like how quickly he would have taken off.
Speaker 19 I don't know.
Speaker 19 I mean, it's definitely, I can visualize it, but
Speaker 23 how has healing on your own, how has it shaped you as a person? How has it shaped,
Speaker 20 like, you didn't ask to become this person.
Speaker 18 How has it shaped me?
Speaker 18 Well people will tell you
Speaker 18 now that you've healed are you gonna find Donald or are you gonna stay Leroy?
Speaker 20 Well
Speaker 18 I'm not sure yet.
Speaker 18 Donald
Speaker 18 when Donald was the victim. Leroy was the survivor.
Speaker 18 So in my story would go how it went from Donald Bernard Finlay to
Speaker 18 Leroy
Speaker 18 because of the traumatic events that have happened in my life.
Speaker 18 And then at the end, when we're all done with this,
Speaker 18 we will see Donald.
Speaker 18 We got a beginning, a middle, and an end.
Speaker 18 And Donald came out because we hit the final piece. The puzzle's complete.
Speaker 18 Two people that have no answers from anybody else, we can now answer ourselves.
Speaker 23 After all of this, what is Jesperson to you now?
Speaker 18 What is Jesperson to me now?
Speaker 18 Just a tax penny at waste?
Speaker 13 Meeting one another was so therapeutic for both Melissa and Don.
Speaker 13 It was really a testament to human resiliency and the triumph of good over evil.
Speaker 13 When we left with Schugel, it was with the feeling that ultimately Jesperson had lost because two of his residual victims had used the power of forgiveness to transcend the horror and hopelessness he'd foisted upon them.
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Happy Face is a production of How Stuff Works. Executive producers are Melissa Moore, Lauren Bright Pacheco, Mangesh Hatikador, and Will Pearson.
Supervising producer is Noel Brown.
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Music by Claire Campbell, Paige Campbell, and Hope for a Golden Summer. Story editor is Matt Riddle.
Audio editing by Chandler Mays and Noel Brown.
Speaker 5 Assistant editor is Taylor Shacoyne.
Speaker 5 Special thanks to Phil Stanford, the publishers of the Oregonian newspaper, and the Carlisle family.
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Speaker 5 And we all fall.
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Speaker 14 Hey guys, it's Aaron Andrews from Calm Down with Aaron and Carissa. So as a sideline reporter, game day is extra busy for me, but I know it can be busy for parents everywhere.
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