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Speaker 1 I do this thing called my cocoon

Speaker 1 where I'll throw a blanket over my head.

Speaker 1 It's soaking my skin. You can stay like that for hours, no fresh

Speaker 1 oxygen coming in under there. But she does it so that her warm breath can circulate around.

Speaker 1 And sometimes it gets so cold. I've like Snapchat memories.

Speaker 1 It was like 3 a.m. I had to leave my bed to go to the bath and

Speaker 1 slowly warm my toes.

Speaker 1 and it had to be warm water because the hot water was burning my toes

Speaker 1 i'm alona i'm olivia i'm adriana and today this is

Speaker 1 happy birthday dre

Speaker 1 Hey guys, thank you so much. Happy birthday, my girl.
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Speaker 1 I feel like we need to explain Dre, though. The nickname.
Dre Baby. Dre Baby, because obviously your name is Audreana.
We know this. We love this.

Speaker 1 Where do you, or I guess what do you, what's your first recollection of us calling you Dre Baby? I don't think you're going to like this answer, actually.

Speaker 1 It was one of your like high school boyfriends,

Speaker 1 and I remember he called me Dre.

Speaker 1 And like, that was the first time I think I was like, Maybe it was because it was a more of a stranger who called me Dre that I was like, Dre, one of her high school boyfriends.

Speaker 1 This is literally not true, though. Yeah, I came up with that name.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I think it could be keep going.
It was the guy who did flips.

Speaker 1 I know who it is.

Speaker 1 Maybe it wasn't a boyfriend, but it was the guy who does flips. It was never a boyfriend.
Okay, sorry. But I remember he called me,

Speaker 1 Y'all.

Speaker 1 I know you. I remember anyway.

Speaker 1 I just remember he called me Drew.

Speaker 1 You fucked that up. And then I was like, that's weird.
And then I remember that was just a nickname from then on. But I know your side of the story is that you coined it.
And I give you credit for it.

Speaker 1 I was maybe too young to remember. Sorry.

Speaker 1 I literally... gave birth to that nickname.
Hey, what's your side of the story? That I like, that I flowed with that.

Speaker 1 I come up with a gazillion nicknames for her and Dre came out of me once for you, Adriana. I shortened it to Dre and then Dre baby just sounded the best.

Speaker 1 And then people that I saw, romantically or otherwise, whether I remember them or not, then picked up on that and started using that as well. What?

Speaker 1 I was just the first time I remember being called Dre.

Speaker 1 My worldview

Speaker 1 here. Yeah.
Play peacekeeper. That could be right.
I know because you come up with a lot of nicknames, like a lot of nicknames for me.

Speaker 1 I don't remember you coming up with Dre, but don't i can imagine you having done that it sounds like i remember the guy like in a fun way saying that once and i was like what is he saying interesting but you probably you probably said it and he heard it huh believe women of course no like first and foremost i'm gonna believe that i've always given you credit

Speaker 1 but it was fake credit so

Speaker 1 but i do think it's kind of messed up how i only got dre and alona has every nickname on her

Speaker 1 it's hard work adriana like where to go from there there is someone

Speaker 1 that One time, one of your friends called you Audi.

Speaker 1 And I was hoping that I hated that. I hated that.
Even my homes, I hated that. No, I had to shut that down, actually.
Audi. Well, one person could call me

Speaker 1 odd, and that's our cousin. Odd? Becca.
Becca calls me odd. Why? Okay, fine.
Audriana. So it just like came odd.

Speaker 1 Odd.

Speaker 1 Odd. It's because we call you her.
Yeah. Have we already talked about this that we call you Adriana? I don't know.
Not here. Okay.
So do it now. Here's the thing, guys.
Listen up.

Speaker 1 Olivia and I believe with our deep

Speaker 1 souls, Audriana is Adriana to us. If you hear us call her Adriana, that's, we're only allowed to say that.
That's only us that we get to say that. Do not say that.
What she prefers is Audriana.

Speaker 1 Audriana. And even Olivia and I have to check ourselves.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to be better, but it doesn't feel right coming off my tongue when I say Audriana. I remember that I chose Audriana at a young age.
She chose it.

Speaker 1 Because I was getting that question a bunch in like elementary school. Is it Adriana? Is it Audriana?

Speaker 1 And my middle school brain, not middle school, elementary school brain was, Adriana sounds less American. Sounds a little bit more Dutch, maybe.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it was truly like, that's, you know, has anything to back it up, but I just chose Adriana and went with it. How do you feel when you say that?

Speaker 1 Audriana, I feel like I'm lying to myself and everyone around me. You can call me Adriana.
I'm so wrong.

Speaker 1 I think I just said it to my best friend, actually, who has only ever heard me call you Adriana. And she paused quickly.
She was kind of like, what?

Speaker 1 Actually, one time a friend caught on. I was FaceTiming, I think, you or something.
And after I hung up, she was like, why do they call you Adriana? And I was like, you've picked up on that? Why?

Speaker 1 Because your name's Adriana. Because we're going to tell you what we want.
Well, how does dad say your name? I think he says Adriana.

Speaker 1 And then mom says it with like the Dutch.

Speaker 1 Like Adriana. And I'm like, I'll take that too.
So mom says

Speaker 1 Adriana. Because she says it with a bit of an an accent.
A little. So, anywho, that's a bit of spice.

Speaker 1 Guys, if you're listening and you do see her, call her Audrey. I do listen to those two nitwits here

Speaker 1 saying it wrong our whole life. Well, we switch up what we call you.

Speaker 1 You can call me many times. Alona, Alona.
I'm not sure. Alona, Lo, Lola, Lolita.
Lito. Pony.
No. Minona.
No, no, no. Sometimes, actually, when you're playing, I will, I often say no for you.

Speaker 1 Like, no, no.

Speaker 1 I'll just shout, no, when you have the ball. and it sounds sounds wrong yeah that's my pony girl right there pony girl olivia's made up some weird nicknames for me so it's

Speaker 1 alona lon my dad calls me noni but olivia goes alona loner

Speaker 1 got boner out of that noner so she's boner sometimes

Speaker 1 what else there's just like a bone a ronius pony as

Speaker 1 pony as that's a good one for us

Speaker 1 always always different different. And I will respond to pretty much anything really well.
As long as there's a vowel in there, she's turning her head. I think it's the O.

Speaker 1 If you get that O in there, I'm like, huh. Yeah, first time I came down to San Diego and met all of your new friends and teammates, I think I had a new thing that I call into it every turn.

Speaker 1 And like, Nicole is so confused, right? Yeah,

Speaker 1 it's a confusing name. But I, so, and also for me, my name, like, it's supposed to be Ilona, which is the right way to say it.

Speaker 1 And I had a lot of people saying it that way, but it's not, it doesn't feel spiritually me. No, I'm Alona or Ilona.
Ilona. You've been calling me Ilona sometimes.
Ilona. I call Ilona or Ila.

Speaker 1 She's yeah, so Alona, Ilona.

Speaker 1 Olivia, anything clever about your name? Right.

Speaker 1 Unique?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Recently, people have been calling her Livy more. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Just like to her face. Would she, how do you feel? Do you do you resonate with that? No, I get it.

Speaker 1 Like at first, like my fight or flight kicks in and it's just fight right away because Livy is what my family calls me, like mom, dad, you guys. Like, that's that dad calls me Livy Divi.

Speaker 1 Like, that's such a family name. But when, you know, the apps came around and I had to make a username for the first time, Olivia Marr was taken.
What? So I went, oh, this is fun.

Speaker 1 It's, you know, the year of our Lord and Savior, 2009. And I like made an account or what? No, 2013.
I think I mean, 2009, what were you doing?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I didn't have, I don't even think I had an iPad well at that time at that time. I don't think I even had a smartphone at the time.
But my, I couldn't make Olivia Maher my username.

Speaker 1 So I was like, oh, just use my nickname. Cute.
Like, how relevant will this account actually be?

Speaker 1 So I put in Livy Maher. And now people on the street or when they see it alone and then they clock me, they go, Livy.
And I'm like, you don't know me like that.

Speaker 1 And I forget that that's due. That is how they know me, like from the internet.
But yeah, it's Olivia. Recently, we got something where it was our initials.
You tell it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we got sent some wonderful jewelry. It was very sweet of them.
And it's engraved on the front, so customize. And it has

Speaker 1 on the back, like each person's name. So I have Audrana on the back, but then on the front, it's A, I, and then L.

Speaker 1 For Livby. Right.
Livy. I'm still.
I'm going to wear it. I'm going to wear it.
That's what I'm saying. You're an Livy.
That's who she's becoming. She's becoming Livy.
That's your stage name.

Speaker 1 That's my stage name. That's my alter ego.
Do we think all our names fit us? Are you in Olivia? I think so. Weirdly.
Yeah, you fit in, Olivia. Yeah.
Because it's basic, but not.

Speaker 1 Our parents tell the story of when they were naming Olivia. They were like, this is going to be the coolest name.
Nobody's going to have this.

Speaker 1 This is really

Speaker 1 unique. This is cool.
This is cool. I think that year was like the fifth most popular baby name or something like that.

Speaker 1 So they got Olivia and then they went with mine. Mine's a little bit unique.
And then Olivia, you know. Yours is incredibly unique.
There's not a lot of alonas out there. Very unique.

Speaker 1 Adriana, though, we were just all laughing about her. Audriana, Olivia.

Speaker 1 Olivia. No, thank you.
Audriana. Thank you for

Speaker 1 keeping me on it. Audriana

Speaker 1 actually has like three boy names made into girl names, right?

Speaker 1 I was the last kid, so they had to get every relative possible.

Speaker 1 So I got both our grandfathers. So Adrian, Adriana.
Sometimes I do wish that they just kept it as Adrian. It's interesting.
It's Adrian. Adrian.

Speaker 1 Adrian.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying. It's funny how that works.
It's actually Audrian. Oh, it's Audrian.
I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 Keep going.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 our other grandfather, Frederick. So my middle name is Frederica.
And then I have another middle name, Johanna, for my uncle, my mom's uncle, Johan.

Speaker 1 So people are like, hey, Audrey, what's your middle names? You guys are going to be a nice one. I love it.
I love when someone asked me for my middle name. I'm so annoying.
How do you say it?

Speaker 1 Adriana Frederica Johanna Marr. Oh, God.
Say it again. Adriana Frederica Johanna Maher.
It rolls off the tongue nicely once you memorize it. Is Frederica truly a girl's name?

Speaker 1 Like, or did they make that up? But there there are girls' names. I'm just putting an A on there.
I feel like Frederica is a real thing. Frederica.

Speaker 1 Growing up, I'd call you Freddy and you didn't like that. Well, that probably felt like passive-aggressive for me.
That's a lot.

Speaker 1 Because you also, I think, I remember you guys calling me Fred, and I was like, Yeah, you hated that one too. Not Freddy.
But now it's kind of cool. I know.

Speaker 1 We were talking about this recently. I love my middle names.
They're really cool.

Speaker 1 I think they could be really fun first names as well. Our mom and dad famously gave us two middle names each.

Speaker 1 Try figuring that out for passports. Yeah.
Government documents. I put both of my middle names.
I put my first middle name. Are they going to be mad at me at a border?

Speaker 1 Because I didn't put the second one. I don't know.
If you want one initial, do you want the other initial?

Speaker 1 They actually wanted to name Olivia Hema.

Speaker 1 Like the Dutch Hema, but it's spelled G-E-M-M-A. And my mom was like, nope, the Americans are going to call her Gemma.
Yeah. Someone was like, you're going to name her Gemma.
She's like, no.

Speaker 1 I love. I call you Hema sometimes, especially when I want your attention.
I get called that when I'm in trouble. That's when you say that, too.
Yeah. Hema.

Speaker 1 You get annoyed.

Speaker 1 Mom does it when I'm in trouble. She says, Chema Elizabeth, which is my Gemma Elizabeth.

Speaker 1 Gemma Elizabeth is the American pronunciation, but that's what I get called when I'm in trouble with our mom's accent, though. So it's very scary.

Speaker 1 It's coming in now. Frederica, the name means peaceful ruler in Romanic.
What?

Speaker 1 Peaceful ruler. How do they know? That's why you're in the throne today, both for your birthday and

Speaker 1 the central kingdom over the centuries. I feel powerful on this chair.
Do you think you're the most peaceful among all of us?

Speaker 1 Who? Her.

Speaker 1 In my personal life, maybe not.

Speaker 1 But I think in my greater morals.

Speaker 1 That's where I'm going to stay. She's okay.
I hear that.

Speaker 1 In her morals, maybe she is. Yes.
Yeah, yeah. And like my ideal.
She didn't have boyfriends in high school.

Speaker 1 She guys just did flips and then didn't remember it to this day.

Speaker 1 While Olivia was going through the trials of high school, I was knee-deep in middle school. One time I was the eighth most popular girl in the middle school.
She's got rings.

Speaker 1 She's got like the Thanos' rings of popular girls. Well, what was the key is when those two girls moved away.
Oh, right. Yeah.
So you were made it by default?

Speaker 1 Okay. I made top 10 by default.
Top 10 popular girl by default. Yeah, yeah.
Interesting. I strived for three years and by the end of it, the girls had moved away.

Speaker 1 I had bonded with the popular girls because of how mean they were.

Speaker 1 So I was kind of let in. How did you bond with them? Were you mean too? No, no, no.
We were just bullied. Bullied.
Bullied. I was not a bully.

Speaker 1 Bulliers. Okay.

Speaker 1 Right. So

Speaker 1 I actually, I've talked about this before with her of like, I heard they were going to the indoor water park and I really weaseled my way into that trip.

Speaker 1 And at that wonderful day at the water park, we were like leaving the place and I have my iPod touch with me and I'm so connected to the Wi-Fi.

Speaker 1 And I start getting these messages from like this like mean girl being like, and why did you tell her that I didn't like her and yada, yada, yada? And I had never said a thing.

Speaker 1 But luckily, I was with these girls who had all dealt with this before. And so they were all looking at my phone being like, yeah.
It's happened to us too. It was a real bonding.
Trauma bonding.

Speaker 1 Now, now this weaseling your way into places, how do you feel this has helped you in your current life of fundraising and politics?

Speaker 1 You know, it's a talent. You have to learn how to put yourself into the situation because oftentimes people aren't going to be like, come on.
Yeah. Because I was a little weird.

Speaker 1 And so just speaking up for yourself,

Speaker 1 learning how people work, learning the insides of their minds.

Speaker 1 And that's what's led me to success. But actually, one thing when it comes to like work and fundraising and stuff, I've actually learned this this from you is I kind of put on a character almost.

Speaker 1 Okay, it's not that funny.

Speaker 1 Well, it's just,

Speaker 1 you know, when you're

Speaker 1 it's like you're performing for people, right?

Speaker 1 You're, you're kind of doing the da-da-da-da-da-da. Like you know what's going to work best.
You're razzle-dazzling then.

Speaker 1 And so I've learned and like, I started doing it in college of like, it's me, but to like the nth degree, like I'm really putting on a performance.

Speaker 1 Like, and you, you know, it, you know, when you put on that, like, um,

Speaker 1 why is this a mic alone?

Speaker 1 It was that one time when we were talking about like our flaws. Oh my gosh.
No, we got to give some context to that.

Speaker 1 We were having a sister video call, and we were like, what's one thing about each other that we might not notice, but the others, like, other people definitely do?

Speaker 1 Don't, that's not for the faint of heart. Don't do that unless you are prepared mentally, physically

Speaker 1 spiritually emotionally metaphysically uh yeah which

Speaker 1 for you

Speaker 1 we said what a john is kind of saying that sometimes olivia is wants people to always be having fun and to feel good about themselves so sometimes she'll adjust to fit the room like if the room's down Olivia will go like above and beyond to make people happy, to make people laugh.

Speaker 1 And she does it even with like me, you know, like when I'm down and I'm around a group, she'll make sure she's out there so everyone feels comfortable.

Speaker 1 So sometimes she puts on, I guess, what you could call a character, but it's like Olivia, but just like times to the max in a way to make other people really feel good.

Speaker 1 Sorry, my crime is caring too much.

Speaker 1 Sorry, dog. Hey, if that's the worst thing about you, Olivia.
That's pretty good. And then for you, Adriana.

Speaker 1 No, when it got to me, they were really quick with it. You guys had your answer ready to go.
What did we say? I think it was know-it-all. Well, you know why we said that though?

Speaker 1 Because somebody once told you that.

Speaker 1 Who told me that? Your friends once in New York said that's you.

Speaker 1 We, it's not that Ajana knows so much. I know I'm talking a lot, but maybe you answer this.
No, I mean, like, you are very smart. Not mean like you're a know-it-all.
No, like, you.

Speaker 1 Don't shut the fuck up.

Speaker 1 No, but you are also our father's daughter. We all are.
And, like, we know a lot about a lot. And we're very good at knowing when somebody's wrong about something.
And we can't let that go. No.

Speaker 1 I can't. My opinion has to be heard because it's often a rice.
You never let something go, even if you're wrong. Like, it's, I mean, it's out of the way.

Speaker 1 I can say when I'm wrong. Okay.
I've gotten better at admitting it. Okay.

Speaker 1 But. I also just love sharing the stuff I know.

Speaker 1 I just love sharing stuff I know. It's so fun.

Speaker 1 And if that's the worst thing about me, so be it. Yeah, right?

Speaker 1 I'll be a know-it-all. Damn.
I think mine comes from like uh feeling so uncomfortable and awkward and like

Speaker 1 for so so so long, you know, and not I guess like stepping into my so corny, but like power. And like, I don't want anybody else to feel that way.

Speaker 1 So I just try to like, and it's, it's kind of detrimental to my own energy, like burning the candle at both ends.

Speaker 1 But I just want to make sure everyone around me feels comfortable and happy and like in any environment and to know that like I'm a safe place. I'm chill.
I'm cool. It's okay.

Speaker 1 Like we can, we can, you know, so. That's probably an oldest, oldest sister thing, oldest daughter thing, though, too.
What do we say for you? Probably nothing. Probably perfect.
There's the moods.

Speaker 1 There's the moods.

Speaker 1 We don't have to talk about that. We don't have to talk about it.

Speaker 1 It's the moods. And you guys know that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
That's fair. You know that.
My mama has told me I need to work on them.

Speaker 1 Has she? Well, I told my mama, I told mama I need to work on them. And she's like, yeah, you do need to work on them.
And she's like, you need to start doing more workouts to help your mind space.

Speaker 1 And I was like, you're right. Maybe some mental workouts too.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 okay. All about the physical, right?

Speaker 1 Maybe just the stronger your arms get, the stronger your brain will be. Right.
Exactly. That's what they're saying.

Speaker 1 That's exactly what I think. Right.
Does anyone have any like flaws personally they're trying to work on? Nope.

Speaker 1 Couldn't think of one. No, actually, I think I'm good.
Not at one. No, what about trying to work on

Speaker 1 shaving my legs more often, probably. Wow.
I'm just getting way from it.

Speaker 1 Something needs to happen out there for sure.

Speaker 1 I literally need, I was about to text Brittany to be like, can you send me the link for that at-home laser kit, baby? Jesus.

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Speaker 1 When we got back from England, I was like,

Speaker 1 we need to have a major life change.

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Speaker 1 Law Hotel 6, man.

Speaker 1 Oh, you need me. What'd you say? That's that Motel 6.
It's your Shag carpet. That's your hotel.
That's a Shad carpet. They need to switch out, huh?

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Johnna, anything you got to work on? I need to stop hyper-fixating. Okay.
Oh, on what? This week is

Speaker 1 my style.

Speaker 1 Don't, don't zoom in. I swear to God.

Speaker 1 She put in contacts for all of you guys. And I'm taking them out right after.
Yeah. It has consumed me, actually.
And I will say, being fun employed doesn't help.

Speaker 1 Because I had

Speaker 1 a week between bristol and here that i was just in new york and all i had to do was fixate on this style we all i mean you and i both have a bit of hypochondria what deep within us which having a nurse mother helps and also does not help no because actually whenever i have a concern and it might be a little bit more valid than other times she's still like you're fine you're fine and i'm like can you look at it though Can you?

Speaker 1 I was just telling people though, everyone's like, oh, as a nurse, like, do you help people? I was like, no, the biggest thing is just give them fake confidence. Oh, yeah, you were saying.

Speaker 1 Like, if you ask me, like, oh, does this look scary? I'm like, no, it's fine. Oh, yeah.
And then they're like, okay.

Speaker 1 Okay, good. Don't go to Ilona, right? Yeah.
Right. But most of the time with you guys, most of the time with you guys, at least, there are times when you get a little bit

Speaker 1 dramatic about, not dramatic is the word, but like... I guess hyper-fixated or like very cautious of things.

Speaker 1 And I know that it's probably nothing, but your brains can't think of it. So to me, I'm like, that's fine.
If you can just give them that comment, that is fine.

Speaker 1 Oftentimes, I know that I'm going a little like off the rails with it, but I just can't reel it back. Right.
So that's what I'm working on: my hyper-fixating. Okay.

Speaker 1 Of like, just, and I've actually been working on this for a while. So it's going to take me some more time.
I dig it. Alona, what are you hyperfixating on? I'm not

Speaker 1 fixing. Oh.

Speaker 1 My working on my moods thing. Still getting better at that.

Speaker 1 Making grand strides. Grand strides.

Speaker 1 Well, I wasn't scared at all this morning, actually.

Speaker 1 Shaking in Monday and boots. I don't really know how to get better at it.
I mean, maybe it is talking to somebody and talking to a therapist or something like that.

Speaker 1 In a way, I sometimes feel very aware. Like, I know that.
It's not like people were like, they don't understand it. Like, I know I'm in it and I know I'm doing it.

Speaker 1 I'm like, I know that it's happening. So, what's somebody going to tell me?

Speaker 1 It's not about telling you. It's about like.

Speaker 1 unpacking and working through it, I think. Trying exercises to get you out of it.
Yeah. And not just exercise, which which is one way of dealing with things, sure.
But I guess so.

Speaker 1 Okay. I think I'm thinking about just like trying to settle everything.

Speaker 1 And like when I go back to San Diego, when I do this, and because I'm gonna go back to San Diego and I have three days, and then how do I unpack my stuff? Do I leave it in bags?

Speaker 1 How am I even gonna get everything down there? How do I pack for this? How do I pack for that? I'm doing this. So

Speaker 1 I think I'm just thinking about all that because it's just been so busy.

Speaker 1 So I think I don't have one thing to hyper-fix it on. Like in a way, Ajan, as you're saying, like, oh, you don't have a job.

Speaker 1 So like, it's like one thing, whereas me, I'm like, God, I gotta think about this. Then, so, like, my brain almost just like jumps too fast to things, even instead of like focusing on one thing,

Speaker 1 which I think there's good and positives to like both that needs to be fixed. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Where it's like, but you do have so much, like, external clutter. I imagine the internal clutter of your brain is going crazy.
And I have a very small apartment. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So that closet's already maxed out. That closet's already maxed out.
And I have a lot of stuff. Yeah.
And we already gave away a lot of stuff. Yeah.
So we got to.

Speaker 1 So that really is like, oh man, how is it gonna fit in my room and my place? It's a challenge I'm willing to accept, right?

Speaker 1 I'll take some stuff off your hands, don't even worry about it, right?

Speaker 1 I'm like, don't give anything away until I get to look at it. Let me look at every little piece that you have in there.
Oh my god, no, that's fair though. That's fair.

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Speaker 1 Speaking of tiny apartments, I actually live in a two-bedroom with a roommate. We are not just house of Dre, House of Mar.
We are also the house of roommates.

Speaker 1 Wow. And I think a lot of people would be surprised to know that you have a roommate.
I live way below my means.

Speaker 1 Exceedingly below my means. I found this girl on Facebook Marketplace.
No, Facebook. A Facebook group chat for like ladies and roommates in San Diego.

Speaker 1 And this was what I did in before Tokyo, actually. So I hadn't even gotten to the sponsorship and everything like that.
I didn't even, my, my TikTok hadn't exploded yet.

Speaker 1 So, I was a female athlete in rugby, wasn't making a lot of money. So, I kept the United States of America.
Yeah, I knew. So, I kept my kind of monthly how much I could do very low.

Speaker 1 I think it was like I wanted it around 700, 800, which would be crazy now. You'd find only a hovel.
Is that a word? Hovel? Yeah. Yeah.
Hovel. Yeah.
You only find a hovel for that.

Speaker 1 So I found this great girl. in San Diego and I went and met her.
It was a two-bedroom, like tiny place, but really walkable area. And this was before I went to Tokyo.

Speaker 1 I had to be out of my place before I got back from Tokyo. And so I think I slayed that interview, charmed the pants off her, I would assume.

Speaker 1 And she invited me to be a roommate. And so then as I got back from Tokyo, I'm depressed.

Speaker 1 It's so hot. I have to move all of my stuff to this new apartment.
And I have just an air mattress and all my stuff everywhere. I didn't have furniture for a while.

Speaker 1 I slept on an air mattress for a while.

Speaker 1 But I've turned this kind of home into now where I've been for three years because I haven't moved because continuously my either my finances like change or whatnot.

Speaker 1 I definitely make more money than I did, you know, pre-Tokyo, but I've still kind of like wasn't sure because it was based on deals.

Speaker 1 So sometimes you get a big deal, sometimes you don't, sometimes you're in a really dry period. But she's been amazing.
I barely see her. I barely see her.

Speaker 1 We very much so

Speaker 1 cohabitate. in a just a very respectful manner.
Beautiful way. Beautiful way.
I mean, they barely know her. One time time she had a meal with us.
Yeah. Actually, I know her pretty well.

Speaker 1 Actually, she's very nice. Yeah.
She's very nice. But what we're both good at is like we both have different lives.

Speaker 1 And everyone asked me, like, oh, you know, don't did you live with some of your teammates? And I was like, I see them for hours a day.

Speaker 1 I don't want to have to go home and see them as well. So I made sure to live with somebody not in my team.
Cause also I want my business to be my business. I don't want you asking where I'm going.

Speaker 1 I want to just go. I want to do shady stuff.
Not really. Right.
But if I did feel like I'd need to do shady stuff, just in case.

Speaker 1 She is very chill.

Speaker 1 We kind of just respect the space. I'm not a very passive-aggressive person.
So like one time I moved a plant to a table and then she moved it back the next day and I was like, heard loud and clear.

Speaker 1 I hated it there.

Speaker 1 Heard. I hated it there.
And I just kind of go with it. So I know we just work out like right now.
And honestly, I'm probably the best roommate for her. I haven't been there.
for a half a year.

Speaker 1 It's a story.

Speaker 1 She's living her best life. And then I'm going to go back for maybe four days and then I'm leaving again for like 10 more weeks.
Are you going to warn her that you're coming back for those four days?

Speaker 1 I will warn her. Yeah, yeah, she'll be fine.
And she's very like chill about it, but there's no washer-dryer, no AC. My room is west-facing, too.
Oh, God. In the summertime.
Not the coordinates.

Speaker 1 In the summertime, my room can get

Speaker 1 hot. Greenhouse.
And I haven't bought an AC yet for three years. I don't buy an AC.
I've got three fans ripping off. I'll have three fans ripping.
Fully nude.

Speaker 1 But I refuse to buy an AC right now because I'm like, I don't know. You're in too deep.
You've done three summers. So now I'm like, I can't buy another one.
I keep thinking I'm going to move to.

Speaker 1 And I just like, no, I'm not. So you just like it there.
It works. It works for you.
It's very tiny, though.

Speaker 1 Great roommates. Great roommate.
It's hard to find a great roommate like that. Like, you're afraid to let it go.

Speaker 1 I've only ever lived with roommates. I've never really lived with friends.
Well, like, I've become friends with roommates.

Speaker 1 Like, especially in college, like my freshman year, I had an amazing suite and then an amazing roommate.

Speaker 1 And then we all would hang out and, you know, like outside, we'd go to the dining hall, do college stuff. But since moving to New York, I've, I've really, I had a sublet for one month.

Speaker 1 And then I immediately found this place. And it was a thing of, they were interviewing like 30 girls.
And somehow I got it. Nice.
And

Speaker 1 to this day, I still don't know why. Because I was, I think I was 22 at the time during this interview.
And they were both. 28.
And so like, at that age, I think those are pretty like wider gaps.

Speaker 1 And I know that, I knew that they were like interviewing a bunch of girls, probably like closer to them, like age-wise, but I was the lucky winner

Speaker 1 and are so thankful because it was incredibly cheap. When I got that apartment in 2022, it was $890 a month

Speaker 1 on Manhattan, in Manhattan. That's crazy.
But describe your apartment. Oh.

Speaker 1 Describe your room. So Alona's West-facing.
Mine is a seventh layer of hell. The zero sunlight.
The zero sunlight. The room I had was a classic New York shoebox

Speaker 1 where there was a window, but it was an air shaft window. So you got 5% natural light in there.
And I worked from home. So it really was a hellscape.

Speaker 1 I remember like my first winter in there, I called Olivia and I was like, yeah, I don't think that this is like seasonal depression. I think that this is just depression, actually.
And she was like,

Speaker 1 really? Yeah, you think? Oh. And I came to visit one time and I was like, so where do I put my bag? Like, there's just no way for that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Luckily, I have moved out of that room. One of my roommates got married, moved out.
And so I took her room for a little bit of a pay bump, but or price bump, but not that much.

Speaker 1 And that one is almost too much sunlight. So I've gone from like really extremes.
Like I'll have to close my shades during at like 3 p.m. Cause the sun is just hitting way too much,

Speaker 1 which is a blessing in New York. So I found it off Facebook.

Speaker 1 The other roommate that we have since had to find, we also found on Facebook. And we've been very lucky.
Like we all get along really well.

Speaker 1 And like, although we don't see see each other outside of the apartment, we are friends in the apartment. Like my roommates know so much about my life.

Speaker 1 Like they're like, oh, that's that person you don't really like. Right.
And I'm like, how do you remember that?

Speaker 1 And like bringing up old stuff where like, I've forgotten about it. And so it's, it's very interesting.

Speaker 1 And like, it's a wonderful housing situation, you know, like I don't feel the pressure of living with friends, you know, because that's going to maybe extend into your life outside of the apartment and ruin the friendship.

Speaker 1 But I just instead have great friends, like roommates. Well, when I lived in New York City, I lived in a four-bed.

Speaker 1 So four, so three roommates plus myself, no living room, just a bathroom and a kitchen, singular bathroom.

Speaker 1 That was like a wild time, but also like such a New York City, like it was a moment in time, you know? It didn't seem crazy to me because I was like, just moved to the city.

Speaker 1 I was young, out of college. And it just seemed like, yeah, that's what you do.
And you move to New York City.

Speaker 1 And I was there for a bunch of years because it was a great price and a great area, like close to transportation and amazing food over in Astoria. I loved it.

Speaker 1 And now I look back on it and I'm like, whoa, I was doing that. That's crazy.
But like, it had to be done. And I'm, I'm glad for it.
Four roommates, one, four people, one bathroom. Crazy.

Speaker 1 And you also had a male roommate too. I remember that was, that freaked me out because I was still, I think I was like 19 the first time I visited.
And I was like, she's living with us.

Speaker 1 A man lives here? That's strange, man. And it's not like you guys were friends.
Yeah, it wasn't a new girl situation at all. He was lovely.

Speaker 1 Like, and like a lot of them, they all traveled for work and stuff too. So, it was a classic New York City situation.

Speaker 1 But I guess we get into some roommate debates.

Speaker 1 What do you guys think? What is an unethical thermostat level? Like, what should that be kept at? My place doesn't have a thermostat. Right, right.
No joke.

Speaker 1 It doesn't even have heating. Doesn't it have no? My place doesn't have heating either.
There's a heating unit in the hallway. Doesn't work, man.

Speaker 1 Does not work.

Speaker 1 My place does have AC heating.

Speaker 1 We have a dishwasher. Whoa.

Speaker 1 I've tried to turn turn the heat on. I think it's for show, that little knob.
Right. I'm freezing.
Sometimes my place can get real cold, and then there's a real shot.

Speaker 1 Just the extremes. Okay.
So, yeah. So, say there were a thermostat and you could keep it at something.
I couldn't even tell you.

Speaker 1 I'm out of my knowledge of thermostats and what's a good temperature. I would say for AC, like I know some people like a 69.

Speaker 1 Eight. Whoa.
But that's just,

Speaker 1 but that's just like a thermostat temp. Like one of my teammates always has it at 69.

Speaker 1 Who is it? Lauren Doyle.

Speaker 1 Lauren Doyle. I love Lauren Doyle.
Is that too cold? Is that too cold of a temperature? No. No, I do.
I love like a 68. Wow.
When we're home in Vermont. I'm paying the bills, dog.
Me.

Speaker 1 When we're home in Vermont, I'll put the heat on at 71.

Speaker 1 When it's winter. Yeah, when it's winter.
Yeah. That's heat.
I don't know how heat works.

Speaker 1 But I will say, New York,

Speaker 1 most educated among us. I am.

Speaker 1 We have no control over the heat. Yeah, that's dad's domain.
And actually, I tested it out because it was getting so hot in our apartment this year.

Speaker 1 And my roommate had a little, like, it was like a little portable thermostat, I guess.

Speaker 1 And I, because she was like, it's so hot. And she put it in her room.
And it was like, I think hers was like 85 or something.

Speaker 1 And I was like, I can beat you because with my windows and the sun coming in and I also have a pole, the loudest pole you'll ever hear.

Speaker 1 Like a hot water pole. Yeah.
apartment.

Speaker 1 I shut all my windows because I have to keep my window perpetually open in the winter because it's so hot. It's still open to this day.

Speaker 1 And I close everything, open the drapes all the way, close my door, let it cook. Right.
And it got up to 93 degrees. What? That's crazy.

Speaker 1 But there's a meme out there that we shared with each other where it was like, the hottest summer I ever spent was in a pre-war apartment in New York City in the winter.

Speaker 1 And that's my everyday life. Speaking of that, though, you know what that's like? Our house in Vermont.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, your room specifically. Our rooms in Vermont.
So my room in Vermont can get aggressively warm in the winter. Like it's the first place that the heat reaches.
Oh my gosh, it gets hot.

Speaker 1 I'm opening windows in the winter. I have my door open.
Mom and dad had to install that little fan in the corner to like crank air out of there.

Speaker 1 It gets no heat.

Speaker 1 Just at a time, by the time, because it's hot water, right, through the radiators or whatever it is, by the, you know, it hits Alona's room first, and then it's cooled off by the time it reaches Andreana's room.

Speaker 1 It's the last room on the road. Alone you do sometimes.

Speaker 1 You cocoon yourself and like your hot it goes well I think actually that habit might have stemmed from that. I do this thing called my cocoon

Speaker 1 where I'll throw a blanket over my head.

Speaker 1 It's so much fun. She stays like that for hours.
No fresh

Speaker 1 oxygen.

Speaker 1 But she does it so that her warm breath can circulate around.

Speaker 1 And sometimes it gets so cold.

Speaker 1 I have like Snapchat memories.

Speaker 1 It was like 3 a.m. I had to leave my bed to go to the bath and

Speaker 1 slowly warm my toes.

Speaker 1 And it had to be warm water because the hot water was burning my nose.

Speaker 1 Oh my god.

Speaker 1 She has like a space eater in there.

Speaker 1 She's got a space eater pointed at her face.

Speaker 1 She's cold. There's also like she is a bed rotter at times.

Speaker 1 She's

Speaker 1 my birthday episode.

Speaker 1 My birthday episode. She's like,

Speaker 1 she's just cocoon.

Speaker 1 You go and just like wake her up. You go to wake her up and you gotta like peel back the lips like them moist.

Speaker 1 And she's just been using her breath to keep her warm under that glass.

Speaker 1 Moist.

Speaker 1 But she's like petrified into a solid frozen. Oh my gosh.
Oh my gosh. It's also because I think that's like technically an addition, wasn't that like built on? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So like the heat doesn't probably get over there. And then my room, perfectly temperatured.

Speaker 1 So you're Goldilocks. I'm literally Goldilocks, but it's also because my room is closest to the actual thermostat.

Speaker 1 So when the, if my door is closed and the heat stays in there, it's not getting out and the thermostat isn't registering it. So then it just creeps cranking hotter stuff into a lona's room.

Speaker 1 So I couldn't sleep with my door closed. But our dad is also definitely one of those dads who can like sense when there's been a change, when someone's touched the thermostat.

Speaker 1 And he's like, he'd be like, come here,

Speaker 1 if you, if you need it to touch this thing, come here, hand to it. You listen.

Speaker 1 And you turn it a little bit to hear that click. Hear that click? That's the heat coming on.
That's it. Stop.
Don't do it anymore. That's if he, if that's if he lets you touch it.
Wow.

Speaker 1 Oh, classic dad. He now lets me uh change it.
I think because I've complained so much and he just knows what I've been through. He's been nicer about it.
Yeah, he's been chiller about it.

Speaker 1 Like, I'll go take a bath downstairs. He's like, turn that thorn set up.
Make sure it's hot when you got out there. I was like, why don't you treat yourself? Okay, Sam.

Speaker 1 Oh my God, I'm like a princess in this contest. I'm just going to

Speaker 1 turn it through degrees. Like, this is living.
You got money now? Okay.

Speaker 1 I am confused, though. So, 68 degrees is like cold.
How does 71 like warm? That's just like a, I think like a livable temperature. Oh, that's like chilled.
It's not like really heat.

Speaker 1 No, it's just like a normal temperature. But like in the winter, when it's really cold outside, you can just have it at that 70s to be like a normal temperature.
Okay, it makes sense.

Speaker 1 I think that's just like a normal. You're always trying to make it around there.
Do you think sisters are better roommates than

Speaker 1 randos or friends? I think probably. I have an idea.
Do you have an idea? Please share. Please.
Because you've now lived with Olivia as an adult. We live together well,

Speaker 1 but I also like my, again, my

Speaker 1 anonymity. Anonymity.
Anonymity. Or like my ability to just do what I want.

Speaker 1 I'm not stopping you from that. Well, you want to know everything that I'm doing, though.
That's, that's a sister thing. Like, we.
Because you like to be mysterious sometimes.

Speaker 1 I love to just like go out. She likes to slink off.
I like to slink off. Like this, too.
Like, not even tell y'all where I'm going. They have my location tracking.

Speaker 1 So I already feel like that's, I feel like the eyes of them are watching me wherever I go. But I love that I can just leave with my roommate and just, she doesn't care where I'm going.

Speaker 1 I don't have to tell her when I get back where I've been. Again, sorry my crime is caring too much.

Speaker 1 I have gotten to the point where I ask my roommate sometimes. Because I'm curious.
And I'm like, where are you going? Yeah, yeah. Because you're so entwined in each other's lives.

Speaker 1 It's also just nice to know. And I'm also like, I'm curious.
Are you going to your salsa dancing? Are you going to CrossFit? Like, what am I going to hear about later? Cool. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So you like friends or Randos?

Speaker 1 Oh. Sisters, friends, Randos? Sisters, friends, Randos.

Speaker 1 I do.

Speaker 1 Since we are so close, I do think we live together well. Like when we're at home, like at Christmas and things like that, that I would, I'd put you guys above.

Speaker 1 I do think it comes with its maybe more challenges, but I think it might be more rewarding. And then I'd go Randos and then...
friends, but also I can't speak on friends.

Speaker 1 I've never lived with friends. I am so jealous sometimes of my friends who live with, you know, their friends.
And like, they talk about their like movie nights and how they make dinners together.

Speaker 1 And it seems wonderful.

Speaker 1 But then you hear about like the bad things. Right.
So I'm hesitant, but I would, I'd be open to try it. I've lived with like friends and randos.
I lived with my best friend in school and that worked.

Speaker 1 We got along brilliantly. Like

Speaker 1 very wonderful living situation because you hear so many horror stories about like, oh, they're your best friend. And then you live together and you're not actually best friends.

Speaker 1 Like, so were you best friends?

Speaker 1 I don't know but anyway so that was like really fortunate that we got along so i'll in that time i like it i like being with you guys i like having you guys around i also love living by myself which is something i'm doing for the first time in my life not that i've had much yeah barely since but on the go too much um on the go yeah i mean i lived with you guys for so long at home at home so just kind of translates to this to this day and age today as well i don't mind it I think I'd get very catty if I lived with you permanently.

Speaker 1 Do you think you're a good roommate? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I do think think I'm a good roommate. My worst thing, and I know this, and I've said this to my roommates, I do egg pans.

Speaker 1 And so I think we all have that in our family of I'll make eggs in the morning and then I'll leave the pan on the stove. Right.
Because it's too hot.

Speaker 1 And, or oftentimes I'm cleaning dishes and I forget to look behind me. Right.

Speaker 1 And I, I'll clean up at the end of the day. Right.
But yeah, that's my worst roommate habit, I think, is my egg pan. Eggpan.
Eggpan. Eggpan.

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Speaker 1 But in the most important news, happy birthday, Dre, Audriana. Audriana.
Today is not your birthday. Tomorrow is.
Tomorrow is, yes. But the big 2-6, the best.
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Speaker 1 About to be off your parents' insurance. Which I've been on for a month and a half now.

Speaker 1 So it was a really bait and switch. I'm getting in all my appointments.
Nice. Actually, I got in a lot of appointments on that last insurance I got booted off of.

Speaker 1 And so I'm just, you know, doubling down, honestly. Nothing like re in 26 by getting off your parents' insurance.
And I remember, Olivia, when you turned 26, I was like, that's really old.

Speaker 1 Just getting up there. And like, I made like an Instagram post for you.
And I was like, have fun with your own insurance. Yeah, that was rude.
That was so rude of me.

Speaker 1 And I need to apologize right now. Why are you looking at the camera and apologize? Olivia, I'm so sorry that I made fun of you and your lack of insurance when you turned 26.
Thank you. Not lack.

Speaker 1 You were smart and you got insurance right then. Thank you.
So I will be going on a self-pay insurance and oh my god.

Speaker 1 Oh my god, that's so expensive.

Speaker 1 Enough insurance talk. I'm so sorry.

Speaker 1 Are you otherwise excited to be 26? I am.

Speaker 1 It does feel,

Speaker 1 you know, I think I'm maybe now qualified in late 20s, which is a little scary. 26, 27, 28.
No, I'm mid-20s still. A bam, you had to count out on your hand.
What qualify?

Speaker 1 What comes after mid. So average is five.

Speaker 1 Well, I didn't know. Stop it stop it

Speaker 1 i just had to double check because i was like maybe we're counting it because if it's after five

Speaker 1 um 26. i'm still in my mid-20s of course um

Speaker 1 no i'm looking forward to it you know i used to feel so much like dread each year older I was turning. I remember especially 19 to 20 was crazy.
And I was like, I'm no longer a teenager. Like crying.

Speaker 1 I haven't cried for my birthday in a few years now, which is impressive.

Speaker 1 I'll let you know later today if I will be crying.

Speaker 1 I don't think I will be. No.
I'm cool with it. Do you think you're settling more into yourself with every year you turn? Yes.
I think I'm very sure of myself. I do think that this year is...

Speaker 1 Gonna be something that I've never really experienced. And I think there is going to be a lot of growth.
And I think I'm going to like explore parts of myself I've never, you know, dived into before.

Speaker 1 And I'm very excited for that. I feel that.
I think 26 for me was the first year that I felt kind of like

Speaker 1 weird to say, but like okay turning that age.

Speaker 1 I'm not like, I wasn't ever scared of aging, but there was something about that, like getting further and further away from your younger self that made me quite emotional.

Speaker 1 And I, same thing, like weirdly, I cried on every birthday. Like, what is that about? I hear from other girls on the internet that they do that too.
But I remember 26 being the first year.

Speaker 1 And I think I journaled about it being like, no, I'm. becoming more me.
Like I feel myself settling into myself.

Speaker 1 I'm still, you know, a bit nervous all the time or not, or not so, you know, sure of myself and whatnot, but I feel myself becoming more that. And I remember clocking that on my 26th birthday.

Speaker 1 And it's remained true with every birthday since, where like turning 30, I was like, this feels right. This feels good.

Speaker 1 I wasn't, I didn't have that energy that you see in all the sitcoms about turning 30 and it being the worst thing ever. I was like, hell yeah.
I think I was made to be 30. This is great.

Speaker 1 I'm going to miss, you know, being maybe younger in the city. I will say, like, I moved to New York when I was 22.
Yeah. And I, how am I 26 already? Jesus.

Speaker 1 And I know 26 relatively is like so young. Um, and that I've been seeing everywhere.
It's like, guys, remember, like, sex in the city started when they were like 33. I'm like, good, noted, good.

Speaker 1 I've got time.

Speaker 1 But I think I've also always been very like,

Speaker 1 maybe not self-assured, but like, I've always known who I am. And we had this conversation when we were in England of like, what would you talk to your, like, or say to your younger self?

Speaker 1 And I was like, I don't think I would talk to

Speaker 1 like have amazing advice for like

Speaker 1 myself

Speaker 1 past like 14.

Speaker 1 like i think i've always been like yeah this is who i am this is what i stand for like i've definitely learned more about myself but i think who i am in the foundation has like always been clear to me luckily um that i just

Speaker 1 i i'm i'm letting go of like the fear of every new year and what that number may may be the best advice i think i've received this year is actually for my roommate I was really scared to go on the state earlier this year.

Speaker 1 And I was like, we were in the kitchen and I was talking, I think maybe for honestly two hours.

Speaker 1 We were going back and forth. It wasn't just me like hyper fixating on the state.

Speaker 1 And I was just so nervous for some reason. Like it was, it was again, a little like consuming me.
And I was just like word vomiting. I was like, I'm so scared to do this.

Speaker 1 And like, I don't know why I'm this scared. And like, it's just a date.
And she was like, just do it scared. And I literally was like, whoa,

Speaker 1 do it scared. And I've, I wrote that, like, I was like, hold that thought.
I opened my phone and I like wrote that down. I was like, do it scared.

Speaker 1 And I think it's just a wonderful message for my entire year of 2025 and then, and then on of

Speaker 1 it was so good for that moment. But then I also had so many things at that time that I was so scared of.
This is when we were really talking about starting this podcast.

Speaker 1 And, you know, from where I was before of like, I was just living a very normal life, like had my little desk job. And that was it.

Speaker 1 And knowing that I'd be entering something where it's, I'd be viewed by so many people and like I'd have to put myself out there and like, you know, lose the anonymity. I was scared.

Speaker 1 And so it was just a wonderful thing of like, yeah, do it scared. It's something that I still want.
And although it's like scaring me shitless, it still could be a wonderful experience.

Speaker 1 And why am I holding myself back from that? And I'm just trying to apply that to like so many things of do it scared.

Speaker 1 And so I think 26 is the year of do it scared. I like that.
And like living without what-ifs. It's like you did it anyway.

Speaker 1 Maybe even one day, be less scared.

Speaker 1 Just do it. One One day.
One day. Even if you're scared, do it.
But hopefully I'll get more confident. And I think I do get scared so often because I still feel so new to things.

Speaker 1 And I, I would, one thing I also want to work on is just, I was talking to Alona actually this morning about like it factor.

Speaker 1 And like we were talking about models and just like how I think Alona has like the it factor.

Speaker 1 And like the more I'm like in this like realm and like observing at like shoots of Alona's like you can see it in people. Like I've never been like that.

Speaker 1 Like I've always been like, I overthink and I change and I'm like, like I don't talk the way I would

Speaker 1 normally if I know I'm being observed by others. And so I'm just trying to like,

Speaker 1 I think embody like who I am around you guys, just around everyone. And like know that I'm

Speaker 1 like, just like stop holding myself back because I know I have like. so much to share.
And it's, it's hard to like phrase.

Speaker 1 And I don't know if I'm doing it right, but doing it scared and becoming more um outwardly and vocally me i love that well happy birthday dre thank you so much

Speaker 1 love that 26 26 it's the best year i've heard it's the hottest sexiest year actually is it yeah okay that's only down from here

Speaker 1 all right so no sister

Speaker 1 probably

Speaker 1 make yourself comfortable right really to everybody listening right now i can do a little a smart little a no

Speaker 1 it's like eating donuts. Those are

Speaker 1 a little bite. Like a birthday donuts.
A little bite. Okay, have a seat.
Which one do you feel most drawn towards?

Speaker 1 Probably the glaze. No!

Speaker 1 We were all okay.

Speaker 1 Just take a bite of the glaze. Don't fit it as hard as that.
We're the one right behind the glaze. You guys can all have it.
Oh my god, I'm saying it.

Speaker 1 Just take a bite and then pass it to me.

Speaker 1 How are you going to ruin your birthday for her like that? That's crazy. She's really messed up.
Take a bite. Back to sharing a birthday with my grandmother.

Speaker 1 Every birthday, I had to share a cake with her.

Speaker 1 That you learned humility quickly.

Speaker 1 Right, right, right, right.

Speaker 1 That's a tough one. Yeah.
I feel you. But I do think sometimes she would let me blow them out myself.
So thank you.

Speaker 1 Why are you eating it like that?

Speaker 1 Back to me.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's cinnamony.

Speaker 1 Kind of dry, but delicious. I You feel like you need a coffee with that.
Now Adriana's taking a bite.

Speaker 1 Be really quiet.

Speaker 1 And now.

Speaker 1 That's a good glaze.

Speaker 1 Livy, Divi.

Speaker 1 She is chewing it. Adriana, focus on our segment.
Sorry, please introduce the next segment. So there's no sister settle it today because there's nothing to settle besides settling in with a good book.

Speaker 1 And I, I would say we are all resident book readers, book leaders.

Speaker 1 But I get to talk today. So I've got two for you.
I'm a huge fiction, fantasy, romance, novel person. Books.
So I'm first going to start on one of my favorite books that I've ever written that really.

Speaker 1 You read?

Speaker 1 That I read.

Speaker 1 Are you saying audiobooks aren't real? No, you said written. I said written.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so I wrote this book. Eat your donut.

Speaker 1 My favorite book. You need blood sugar.
One of my favorite books books that I've ever read. I read it at a point that I didn't know that I really needed it.

Speaker 1 And so it changed me and changed my perspective so much. It was Everything I Know About Love by Dolly Alderton.
You guys love that one. Love that book.

Speaker 1 And you're going to think it's so much about like romance with men or just romantically. And she does speak on that.
But there's so much about it. of just

Speaker 1 friendship and the love you find with friendship and the struggles of female friendships.

Speaker 1 And I read at a time where I was really going through something with a friend and she was experiencing the same thing in her book.

Speaker 1 And I think just seeing it written down was just, made me feel so like assured that I was like, I'm not crazy. Yeah.
And it's, I think every woman should read it. Like, it's just so well done.

Speaker 1 It's so funny. It's so just.
quick. Like I love it.

Speaker 1 It was also the book that got me to go back to therapy.

Speaker 1 She talks about a therapist. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What it did for her. And I was like, I think that would be good for me.
And it was great, actually.

Speaker 1 So I attribute a lot to that book. And I think you've read it.
You have it at hard copy too. Like, it's such a great book.

Speaker 1 You can just read it in different phases of life and you'll find something that applies to you. And you can highlight and mark down different lines and passages.
She's a genius. She is incredible.

Speaker 1 And the first time I read it was actually listening to it and she reads it.

Speaker 1 So there is something really nice about hearing it in her accent, talking about, you know, the structures of school over in the uk which is very kind of different to what we have here but it just makes sense coming from someone that's from there and hearing them read it and tell her own stories and that book shook me to my core i love it and then i um read it again recently because i wanted to physically hold it and highlight and read and like take my time with it uh And I, yeah, no matter where you are in life, it will speak to you in a certain way.

Speaker 1 So that's an excellent call out for Dre's book club today.

Speaker 1 What else you got for us? Okay, my fun romance one. And I'm

Speaker 1 probably so many of you have read it. If you're at least reading, if you're on Book Talk.
And so I'm sorry if it's repetitive. I'm nervous.
But I read this. Ice Planet Barbarians.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 I love those.

Speaker 1 I love those. That can be their segment.

Speaker 1 I read half of that book and I

Speaker 1 couldn't. And also, I refused to read that book because I was like, I don't need that on my Kindle.
Like, I don't need that on my internet history anymore.

Speaker 1 And so as a gag gift for my birthday, Olivia got me Ice Planet Barbarians so I could read it. And you only got halfway into it? Yeah, I couldn't.

Speaker 1 I bought her a physical book and she just distracts me like that. I love that.
And then I was trying to give it away recently.

Speaker 1 I'm going to keep putting that on my shelf.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Re-gift it.

Speaker 1 Someone will enjoy that.

Speaker 1 Here's the problem that I ran into is that the bookstore I went to to buy books weren't purchasing books that day. And I was like, I'm not lugging this back to my apartment.

Speaker 1 And so we were trying to find like a free little library nearby to drop it off in. And then we found one.
We walked to it the way it was inside a kid's playground.

Speaker 1 Oh, so I was like, I gotta hang on to that. I gotta hang on to that.
I don't know where it is now, actually. The gift that just keeps on giving.

Speaker 1 I should have signed it-like, Adriana's nice planet of our variants. Yeah, people can't.
If found, please return.

Speaker 1 No, my book I found, I think, maybe during the pandemic, and it consumed me.

Speaker 1 It was

Speaker 1 The Deal by L. Kennedy.
It's a hockey romance series. Oh,

Speaker 1 Adriana loves a hockey romance.

Speaker 1 I love a sports romance. I love a fake marriage romance.
All of that. I can't read sports romances because I'm like, that would not happen.
That's actually against safe sport. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 The team doctors doing what?

Speaker 1 That is really not good. That's crazy.
That's illegal. That's a lawsuit.
So I try reading these and I cannot get down with it.

Speaker 1 It's tough. This one was sometimes when it's like they're in college, it's a bit better because it's not like

Speaker 1 I feel like I less know, or whoa, I feel like I know less about like the

Speaker 1 systems for that. So I'm not like, oh, couldn't it be that? Right.
NCAA. I don't know enough.
Literally AA. It's bliss.
Yeah. In this case, Alona knows too much.

Speaker 1 But I've read all of those and then I've started to read the spin-offs. Like, it's.

Speaker 1 What are the spin-offs about? Hockey. Their kids?

Speaker 1 Their kids fall in love?

Speaker 1 Age. It's multiple generation

Speaker 1 20 years in the future. Reading is a hobby to a point.
That's crazy. No, it's, and I will say, when I read those books, I was like, this is the best series I've ever read.

Speaker 1 I was eating it up. Like, I was like, this is entertainment.
This is so good. And then I do love, I reread those sometimes.

Speaker 1 Do I? Have I read it?

Speaker 1 My deal. Have you read it? No.
The deal.

Speaker 1 That's not my favorite one, though.

Speaker 1 That's the star. I think that's the first one.
Yeah. Um,

Speaker 1 what's the one? I can't remember. The one with the

Speaker 1 Brianna, I think. I can't remember them.
Because they all have, like, the deal, the score, the goal.

Speaker 1 And so

Speaker 1 I can't also even sometimes remember the characters' names. I'm going to be like...
Was it, was it the insecure freshman one? Yeah. Right, right, right, right, right.

Speaker 1 I know that all the characters present in this universe, like you'll hear mention of other characters from other books in other books. I love when they're connected.

Speaker 1 no and it's like that and do you love it are you like hey bookies when you see when you see your favorite character they're in the relationship and i'm like oh my god they're so happy together still

Speaker 1 but what i was saying is i sometimes reread them and i'm like oh this isn't what i well i told too many people about this yeah and now i'm telling more people about it but i think it's a good like

Speaker 1 entrance okay into into hockey romances hockey romances or just a quick romances quick read okay you need something fun yeah that's how i feel the way

Speaker 1 Ilona feels about sport romances in that way. It's how I feel about like office romance culture ones where like, I'm like, no,

Speaker 1 no, no, no, no, no. That's any pregnancy trope.
The whole way up. No.

Speaker 1 I mean, the stairwell? No.

Speaker 1 HR. Sometimes when

Speaker 1 I'm reading a book and you ask me about it and then you read it, I'm like.

Speaker 1 Olivia critiques them sometimes a little too much. And I'm like, it's going to be all over on page.
She does. I read stuff that you guys read.
It feels a a little judgmental.

Speaker 1 Sorry, you guys judge my books. I don't know.
We also don't read the best books. Like, I think Adriana and I read,

Speaker 1 she probably reads the worst sort of books. I read also the worst words.
I don't judge it. She also will read like autobiographies, memoirs.
I read real books too. Do you? Yes, I do.

Speaker 1 Okay, the last thing you've read. Five Broken Blades.
Great book, actually. When did you read that? A month ago.

Speaker 1 Okay, fine. Okay, yes.

Speaker 1 That's why I have my Libby app. And so whenever I get something off hold, that's my real book time.

Speaker 1 What hurts for me is when I do read something that isn't considered like highbrow and it is like a romance and I'm like, oh, my sisters would love this because they read trash.

Speaker 1 Like, and then they both are like, ugh, it wasn't that good. I'm like, what?

Speaker 1 Which one did you think? Which one did you really like?

Speaker 1 That we did a sexy Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. Oh!

Speaker 1 She loved that one. Those books were so good.

Speaker 1 Tell them the theme of that, because that was kooky.

Speaker 1 No go.

Speaker 1 Basically, right? Four horsemen of the apocalypse, famine, what is it? Pestilence, pestilence, death, death, and war, right? Now, imagine these plague and pestilence one.

Speaker 1 I think it's pestilence. The four horsemen? Yeah.
It's four horsemen. So pestilence and plague or something.
Famine. Famine is fine.
Famine, pestilence, war, death. Yeah.
Anyway. You get it.

Speaker 1 You don't know. Totally warming.
Like those,

Speaker 1 the four horsemen of the the apocalypse, but imagine them hunky, right? And handsome. And they're going to destroy the earth.
Like, it's an apocalypse. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 Except they fall in love with a human woman and that she changes their.

Speaker 1 This is insane. They're like, their quest to destroy.
And they realize like love is real and human. The human race deserves to

Speaker 1 exist. And they are so good.
It's usually after they've killed like

Speaker 1 actively killing. Killing.
That was in the book. But they're not killing her.
You know what I mean? War beats her.

Speaker 1 No, he didn't. I didn't.
Didn't he? He doesn't. No.
I mean, read your own wrists. That's the sort of stuff that the girls would love.
That's the kind of thing.

Speaker 1 I think I read two or three of them. They were good.
I loved them, but that's the kind of thing that I read that I was like, my sisters are going to love this. This is right up their alley.

Speaker 1 And they were both so judgmental of it. I was like, okay, Adriana, I'm not going to put you on blast for this shit.
I know you're reading, but yeah. What the hell? I did read those.

Speaker 1 You did read them, right? Yeah. And I was reporting back to you.
They got a little crazy. Not really.
Maybe I don't remember them, so please don't take my word for it.

Speaker 1 You know, if you go and read them, this isn't an official recommendation. This is not an official recommendation.
I do not condone anything that happens in these books.

Speaker 1 That's the main thing. Do you remember having a book? We don't condone these books.
They were fun. Yeah.
Sometimes you need just like a little crazy book. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And we have much more for you. Yeah.
Because already I'm thinking about so many others, but I don't want to share them. Give us a taste of one.
We both gave one here.

Speaker 1 My series that I can read front to back over and over.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, no, you want to know which one?

Speaker 1 Billionaire Boys Club.

Speaker 1 It's these

Speaker 1 billionaires, right? Right.

Speaker 1 They're in a club together. They got like tattoos.
They're all in club.

Speaker 1 And then they find their ladies. My favorite one, I can know Joe.
I could probably read this one once a month. I love it so much.
And of course, it's smut.

Speaker 1 He is a scarred billionaire in a mansion. Can't get anyone to love him.
A lonely virgin. She,

Speaker 1 out there, ghostwriter. He sets up this scheme to get her to come to his mansion because he has secret letters in the library.

Speaker 1 Turns out he paid for those letters to be there just so he could spend time with her. And then a lot ensues.
A lot ensues.

Speaker 1 You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 I even read it during Christmas. I read it over Christmas again.
I've probably read that 15 times. You're forgetting the name.
Oh, Beauty and the Billionaire. Aptly named.
Beauty and the Billionaire.

Speaker 1 And And it's from the Billionaire's Boys Club. One of those ones that I read that she loves, and I read, and I was like, what are my sisters doing here?

Speaker 1 What do they got going on?

Speaker 1 She's going to love the apocalypse books that I like if they're reading this stuff. Nope.
Nope. Nope.
She loves those, though. Have you read all of them? I've read most of them.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And later I'll get into werewolf books. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Not just

Speaker 1 shapeshifters in general, right? It's a whole. I no, no, no.
I've read some shapeshifter shop.

Speaker 1 I'm a werewolf purist.

Speaker 1 For me, I'm like, a bear shifter? That's too freaky. That's crazy.
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 I read bear shift. No ifs, ands, or bears about it.

Speaker 1 And I love that one.

Speaker 1 I love it.

Speaker 1 I love it.

Speaker 1 I think I called Iran one time. I was like, I was like, what are you reading? She's like, I just had to put one down.

Speaker 1 It was about

Speaker 1 a mountain lion shifter. That's too out there.
I was like,

Speaker 1 she knows, like, you know, like all the terms for it. Can I also clarify? I'm not reading those freaky deeky werewolf ones.

Speaker 1 What are you reading? Because there's levels to the werewolves.

Speaker 1 And I was raised on a WAP pad. Right.

Speaker 1 And that is very just like normal. It's kind of like, you only see like the hierarchy.

Speaker 1 Like, yeah, there's the hierarchy, and that's really, and they just shift, and that's it. None of the freaky sexual stuff.
But I just read the very, like, classic, like, simple.

Speaker 1 It's like a Twilight, not that way, but like a Twilight. Like, Jacob turns into a wolf and he loves to ugly.
And they have mates. That's it.
There you go. Yeah.
And that's it.

Speaker 1 That's it, you dirty-minded weird thing.

Speaker 1 You're a bunch of freaks. Stop judging us.
Yeah.

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Speaker 1 Let's have lunch soon. Like little sandwiches.
Little fingers and mailing to me.