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IT'S DRE'S 26TH BIRTHDAY TOMORROW! This week, join us at the House of Dre — She calls the shots and Ilona eats the donuts. We reflect on each of our 26th birthdays and how we're settling into ourselves more each year, and mellowing out the existential dread of our early twenties. Dre recalls how she climbed a dizzying social ladder at an indoor waterpark, and considers whether being a little weird is actually a good thing. We also each make a selection for Dre's Book Club! Tune in for the latest from the frontlines of BookTok, from werewolves to bear shifters, oh my!

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I do this thing called my cocoon where I'll throw a blanket over my head.

She can stay like that for hours, no fraction.

I don't know how she's bleeding under there.

But she does it so that her warm breath can circulate around.

Sometimes it gets so cold.

I have like Snapchat memories.

It was like 3 a.m.

I had to leave my bed to go to the bath and slowly warm my toes. and welcome back to house of mar bathroom is down the hall if you need it.
It is seashell themed.

The Wi-Fi password is MarBob, of course.

Feel free to rock one if you want to as well.

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Woo!

I feel like we need to explain Dre, though.

The nickname.

Dre Baby.

Dre Baby, because obviously your name is Adriana.

We know this.

We love this.

Where do you, or I guess, what's your first recollection of us calling you dre baby i don't think you're gonna like this answer actually um it was one of your like high school boyfriends and i remember he called me dre and like that was the first time i think i was like maybe it was because it was a more of a stranger who called me dre that i was like dre one of her high school boyfriends this is literally not true though i came up with that nickname i don't know i think it could be keep going it was the guy who did flips i know who it is maybe it wasn't a boyfriend but it was the guy who does flips it was never a boyfriend okay sorry but uh i remember he called Y'all

I know

I don't remember any of that i just remember he called me and then i was like that's weird and then i remember that it was just a nickname from then on but i know your side of the story is that you coined it and i give you credit for it i was maybe too young to remember. Sorry.
I literally gave birth to that nickname. Okay, what's your side of the story? That I like, that I flowed with that.
I come up with a gazillion nicknames for her and Dre came out of me once for you, Adriana. I shortened it to Dre and then Dre baby just sounded the best.
And then people that I saw romantically or otherwise, whether I remember them or not, then picked up on that and started using that as well what i was just the first time i remember being called dre my worldview i guess i'll be the peacekeeper here yeah peacekeeper that could be right i know because you come up with a lot of nicknames like a lot of nicknames for me i don't remember you coming up with dre but i don't i can imagine you having done that it sounds like i remember the guy like in a fun way saying that once and i was like what is he saying interesting but you probably you probably said and he heard it huh believe women of course no like first and foremost i'm gonna leave that i've always given you credit but it was fake credit so but i do think it's kind of messed up how i only got dre and alona has every nickname under the sign it's hard work adriana like where to go from there there is three a's in that one time one of your friends called you oddie and i hated that i hated that i had to shut that down actually odd well one person could call me um odd and that's our cousin oh becca becca calls me odd why okay fine adriana so just like came on odd odd it's because we call you yeah have we already talked about this that we call you adriana i don't know not here okay so do it now here's the thing guys listen up olivia I believe with our deep souls Audriana is Adriana to us if you hear us call her Adriana that's we're only allowed to say that that's only us that we get to say that do not say that what she prefers is Audriana Audriana and even Olivia and I have to check ourselves I'm trying to be better but it doesn't right coming off my tongue when I say Audriana and even olivia and i have to check ourselves i'm trying to be better but it doesn't feel right coming off my tongue when i say adriana i remember that i chose adriana at a young age she chose it because i was getting that question a bunch in like elementary school is it adriana is it adriana and my middle school brain not middle school elementary school brain was adriana sounds less american sounds a little bit more dutch maybe i don't know if it's truly like that's you know has anything to back it up but i just chose adriana and went with it how do you feel when you say that adriana i feel like i'm lying to myself and everyone around me you can call me adriana so wrong i think i just said it's my best friend actually who's only ever heard me call you adriana and she paused quickly she's kind of like what actually one time a friend caught on i was facetiming i think you or something and after uh i hung up she was like why do they call you adriana and i was like you've picked up on that wow your name's adriana well how does dad say your name i think he says adriana and then mom says it with like the dutch like adriana and i'm like i'll take that too so mom says uh adriana because she says it with a bit of an accent a little so anywho that's a bit of spice guys if you're listening and you do see here call her adriana don't listen to nitwits here saying it wrong our whole life well we switch up what we call you i you you can call me many alona alona lo lola loli alita pony no no no no sometimes actually when you're playing i will i often say no for you like no no i'll just shout no when you have the ball and it sounds sounds wrong yeah that's my pony girl right there pony girl olivia's made up some weird nicknames for me so it's alona my dad calls me noni but olivia goes alona loner got boner out of that noner so she calls me boner sometimes What else? There's just like a bone. Erroneous ponies.

Erroneous ponius god that's a good one that's a favorite always always different and i will respond to pretty much anything really well as long as there's like a vowel in there she's turning her head i think it's the oh if you get that oh and then i'm like huh yeah first time i came down to san diego and met all of your new friends and teammates i think i had a new thing that i called to at every turn and like nicole was so confused right yeah she it's it's a confusing name but i so and also for me my name like it's supposed to be elona which is the right way to say it and i had a lot of people saying it that way but it's not it doesn't No. I'm Alona or Ilona.
Ilona. You've been calling me Ilona sometimes.
Ilona. I call Alona or Ilona.
I'm really chewing on that. Yeah.
So, Ilona, Ilona. Olivia, anything clever about your name? Right.
Unique? No. Recently, people have been calling her Livy more.
Oh, yeah. Just like to her face, which she, which I understand.
How do you resonate with that? No, I get it. Like, at first, like, my fight or flight kicks in, and it's just fight right away, because Livy is what my family calls me.
Like, Mom, Dad, you guys. Like, Dad calls me Livy Divy.
Like, that's such a family name. But when, you know, the apps came around, and I had to make a username for the first time, Olivia Marr was taken.
What? So I went, oh, this is fun. It's, you know, the year of our Lord and Savior, 2009.
what nine and I had to make a username for the first time Olivia Marr was taken what so I went oh this is fun it's you know the year of our lord and savior 2009 and I like made an account or what no 2013 I think I mean 2009 what were you doing yeah no I didn't have I don't even think I had an AOL at that time I don't think I even had a smartphone at the time but my I couldn't make Olivia Marr my username so I was like oh I'll just use my nickname cute like how relevant will this account actually be so I put in Livimar and now people on the street or when they see alone and then they clock me they go Livy and I'm like you don't know me like that and I forget that that's do that is how they know me like from the internet but yeah it's Olivia recently we got something where there was initials. You tell it.
Yeah, we got sent some wonderful jewelry. It was very sweet of them.
And it's engraved on the front, so customized. And it has on the back, like each person's name.
So I have Audron on the back. But then on the front, it's A, I, and then L.
For Livy. Right.
I'm still going to wear it. I'm going to wear it.

That's kind of funny. You're an L, Livy.

That's who she's becoming.

She's becoming Livy.

It's your stage name.

That's my stage name.

That's my alter ego.

Do we think all our names fit us?

Are you an Olivia?

I think so.

Weirdly.

Yeah, you fit in Olivia.

Yeah, because it's basic, but not.

And that's me.

Our parents tell the story of when they were naming Olivia.

They were like, this is going to be the coolest name. Nobody's going to have this.
This is really, this is unique. This is cool.
This is cool. I think that year was like the fifth most popular baby name or something like that.
So they got Olivia and then they went with mine. Mine's a little bit unique and then Olivia and Alona.
Yours is incredibly unique. There's not a lot of Alonas out there.
Very unique. Adriana though, we all laughing about adriana olivia olivia no thank you thank you for keeping me on it adriana actually has like three boy names made into girl names right i was the last kid so they had to get every relative possible so i got both our grandfathers so adrian adriana sometimes i do wish that they just kept it as adrian it's interesting it's adrian adrian adrian funny how that works it's actually audrian oh it's audrian and then our other grandfather frederick so So my middle name is Frederica.
And then I have another middle name, Johanna, for my uncle, my mom's uncle, Johan. So people are like, hey, Adriana, what's your middle names? I actually love it.
I love when someone asks me for my middle name. I'm so annoying.
How do you say it? Adriana Frederica, Johanna Mar. Oh, God.
Say it adrenna frederica johanna mar it rolls off the tongue nicely once you like memorize it is frederica truly a girl's name like or did they make that up but there are girls they just slap an a on there i feel like frederica is a real thing frederica growing up i'd call you freddy and you didn't like that well that probably felt like passive aggressive from you that's why because you also i think i remember you guys calling me fred and i was like yeah you hated that one too not but now it's kind of cool i know i welcome we were talking about this recently i love my middle names they're really cool i think they could be really fun first names as well our mom and dad famously gave us two middle names each um try figuring that out for passports yeah government documents Do I put both my middle names middle name are they gonna be mad at me at a border because i didn't put the second one i don't know if you want one initial do you want the other initial like they actually wanted to name olivia hema hema like the dutch hema but it's spelled g-e-m-m-a and my mom was like nope the americans are gonna call her gem gemma yeah someone was like you're gonna hear gemma she's like no i love i call you sometimes especially when i want your attention i get called that when i'm in trouble you say that too yeah mom does it when i'm when i'm in trouble she says elizabeth which is my gemma elizabeth and gemma elizizabeth is the american pronunciation but that's what i get called when i'm in trouble with our mom's accent though so it's very scary i'm it's coming in now frederica the name means peaceful ruler in her manning what peaceful ruler how did they know that's why you're in the throne today both for your birthday and because you're such a peaceful ruler over this kingdom over this and i feel powerful on this chair do you think you're the most peaceful among all of us who her in my personal life maybe not but i think in my greater morals that's where i'm'm going to stop. Okay, I hear that.
In her morals, maybe she is. Yeah, yeah.
And like my ideals. She didn't have boyfriends in high school.
She didn't see guys who did flips and then didn't remember it to this day. While Olivia was going through the trials of high school, I was knee deep in middle school.
One time was the eighth most popular girl in the middle school she's got rings she's got like the the thanos's rings of popular girls well what was the key is when those two girls moved away oh right yeah so you were made it by default okay i made top 10 by default top 10 popular girl by default yeah yeah interesting i strived for three years and by the end of it the girls had moved away. I made top 10 by default.
Top 10 popular girl by default. Yeah, yeah.
Interesting. I strived for three years, and by the end of it, the girls had moved away.
I had bonded with the popular girls because of how mean they were. So I was kind of let in.
How did you bond with them? Were you mean, too? No, no, no. We were just bullied.
Bullied? Bullied. I was not a bully.
You were the bulliers. Okay.
Yeah. Right.
So I actually, i've talked about this before with her of like i heard they were going to the indoor water park and i really weaseled my way into that trip um and at that uh wonderful day at the water park we were like leaving the place and i have my ipod touch with me and i'm so i'm connected to the wi-fi and I start getting these messages from like this like mean girl being like, and why did you tell her that

I didn't like her and yada, yada, yada.

And I had never said a thing.

But luckily I was with these girls who had all dealt with this before.

And so they were all looking at my phone being like, yeah, it's happened to us too.

It was a real bonding.

Now this weaseling your way into places, how do you feel this has helped you in your current life of fundraising and politics? You know, it's a talent. You have to learn how to put yourself into the situation because oftentimes people aren't going to be like, come on, because I was a little weird.
And so just speaking up for yourself, learning how people work, learning the insides of their minds. and that's what's led me to success but actually one thing within it when it comes to like work and fundraising and stuff i've actually learned this from you as i kind of put on a character almost okay it's not that funny well it's just what's that mean you know you're...
It's like you're performing for people. You're kind of doing the...
Like, you know what's going to work best. You're razzle dazzling that.
And so I've learned and I started doing it in college. It's me, but to the nth degree.
I'm really putting on a performance. And you you know it you know when you put on that like um why is this so funny to alone it was that one time when we were talking about like our flaws oh my god no we got to give some context to that we were having um a sister video call and we were like what's one thing about each other that we might not notice but the others like other people definitely do don't that's not for the faint of heart don't do that unless you are prepared mentally physically spiritually emotionally metaphysically uh yeah which for you we said what a john is kind of saying that sometimes olivia is wants people to always be having fun and to feel good about themselves so sometimes she'll adjust to fit the room like if the room's down olivia will go like above and beyond to make people happy to make people laugh and she doesn't even with like me you know like when i'm down and i'm around a group she'll make sure she's out there so everyone feels comfortable so sometimes she puts on i guess what you could call a character but it's like olivia but just like times to the max in a way to make other people really feel good sorry my crime is caring too much sorry dog hey if that's the uh worst thing about you olivia that's pretty good and then for you

adriana no when it got to me they were really quick with it you guys had your answer ready

to go what did he say i think it was know-it-all well you know why we said that though because

somebody once told you that who told me your friends once in new york said that's you

we it's not that adriana knows so much and i'm talking a lot but maybe you answer this

Thank you. New York said that's you we it's not that a Jonna knows so much and I'm talking about but maybe you answer this no I mean like you are very smart no I mean like you know it all like you don't shut the fuck up no but you are also our father's daughter we all are and like we know a lot about a lot and we're very good at knowing when somebody's wrong about something and we can't let that go no I can't my opinion has to be heard because it's often right you never let something go even if you're wrong like it's I mean it's I can say when I'm wrong okay I've gotten better at admitting it okay but I also just love sharing stuff I know i just love doing stuff i know it's so fun um but and if that's the worst thing about me so be it yeah right you know i'll be a know-it-all damn i think mine comes from like uh feeling so uncomfortable and awkward and like uh for so so so long you know and i guess like stepping into my so corny but like power and like i don't want anybody else to feel that way so i just try to like and it's it's kind of detrimental to my own energy like burning the candle at both ends but i just want to make sure everyone around me feels comfortable and happy and like in any environment and to know that like i'm a safe place i'm chill i'm cool it's okay like we can we you know so that's probably an oldest oldest sister thing oldest daughter thing though too what do we say for you probably nothing probably perfect there's the moods we don't have to talk about that yeah it's the moods and you guys know that yeah yeah yeah that's fair you know that my mama has told me i need to work on them well i told my mama i told mom i need to work on them and she's like yeah you do need to work on them and she's like you need to start doing more workouts to help your mind space and i was like you're right maybe some mental workouts too okay all about the physical right that's me just the stronger your arms get the stronger your brain will be right exactly that's what they're saying that's exactly what i think does anyone have any like flaws personally they're

trying to work on nope can't think of one no I think I'm good not a one no what am I trying to work on shaving my legs more often probably wow it's getting away from me and your something to happen out there for sure

I literally need it was about to text brie to be like can you send me the link for that at home laser kit for your birthday you're getting a laser when we got back from england i was like we need to we need to have a major life change We need to log in. That's at Motel 6, man.
What did you say?

That's at Motel 6, man.

What did you say?

That's that Motel 6.

It's your shag carpet at the Motel 6.

That's that shag carpet they need to switch out on.

Okay.

Hey, Jonna, anything you got to work on?

I need to stop hyper fixating.

Okay.

Oh, on what?

This week is my sty, don't zoom in. I swear to God.
She put in contacts for all of you guys. And I'm taking them out right after.
Yeah. It has consumed me actually.
And I will say being fun employed doesn't help. Cause I had like a week between Bristol and here that I was just in New York and all I had to do was fixate on this die we all I mean you and I both have a bit of hypochondria what deep within us which having a nurse mother helps and also does not help no because actually whenever I have a concern in it might be a little bit more valid than other times she's still like you're fine you're fine and i'm like can you look at it though can you i was just telling people though everyone's like oh as a nurse like do you help people i was like no the biggest thing is just give them fake confidence oh yeah you were saying like if you asked me like oh does this look scary i'm like no it's fine oh yeah and then they're like okay okay good don't go to elona right yeah right but but most of the time with you guys most of the time with you guys at least there are times when you get a little bit that's not dramatic about not dramatic is the word but like i guess hyper fixated or like very cautious of things and i know that it's probably nothing but your brains can't think of it so to me i'm like that's fine if you can just give them that comment that is fine oftentimes i know that it's probably nothing, but your brains can't think of it.
So to me, I'm like, that's fine.

If you can just give them that comment, that is fine.

Oftentimes, I know that I'm going a little off the rails with it,

but I just can't reel it back.

So that's what I'm working on is my hyper fixating.

And I've actually been working on this for a while,

so it's going to take me some more time.

I dig it.

Alona, what are you hyper fixating on?

I'm not hyper fixating.

Am I working on my moods thing still getting better at that um making grand strides grand strides well i wasn't scared at all this morning actually shaking in my damn boots i don't really know how to get better i mean maybe it is talking to somebody and talking to a therapist something like that in a way it sometimes feel very like aware like aware. I know that.
It's not like people who are like, they don't understand it. I know I'm in it and I know I'm doing it.
I'm like, I know that it's happening. So what's somebody going to tell me? It's not about telling you.
It's about unpacking and working through it, I think. Probably exercises to get you out of it.
Yeah. And not just exercise, which is one way of dealing with things sure but i guess so okay i think i'm thinking about just like trying to settle everything and like when i go back to san diego when i do this and because i would go back to san diego and i have three days and then how do i unpack my stuff do i leave it in bags how am i even going to get everything down there how do i pack for this how do i pack for that i'm doing this so i think i'm just thinking about all that because it's just been so busy so i think i don't have one thing to hyper fix it on like in a way hey john as you're saying like oh you don't have a job so like it's like one thing whereas me i'm like god i gotta think about this then it's like my brain almost just like jumps too fast to things even instead of like focusing on one thing which i think there's good and positives like both that that needs to be fixed.
it's like but you do have so much like external clutter i imagine the internal of your brain is going crazy and i have a very small apartment yeah so that closet's already maxed out closet's already maxed out and i have a lot of stuff yeah and we already gave away a lot of stuff yeah so we gotta so that really is like oh man how's it gonna fit my room in my place it's a challenge i'm willing to accept right i'll take some stuff off your hands don't even worry about it right i'm like don't give anything away until i get to look at it let me look at every little piece that you have in there no that's fair though that's fair you ever take a picture and think wait why does this look nothing like real life been there but with my galaxy s 25 ultra what i is actually what I get. The 200 megapixel camera means I can zoom in way after the fact and see all the details.
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Wasn't making a lot of money. So I kept my.
In the United States of America. Yeah.
So I kept my kind of monthly, how much I could do very low. I think it was like, I wanted it around 700, 800, which would be crazy now.
You'd find only a hovel. Is that a word? Hovel? Yeah.
Yeah. Hovel.
You only find a hovel for that so i found this great girl in um san diego and i went and met her it was a two-bedroom like tiny place but really walkable area and um this was before i went to go i had to be out of my place before i got back from tokyo and so i think i slayed that interview charmed the pants off her i would assume um and she invited me to be a roommate. And so then as I got back from Tokyo, I'm depressed.
It's so hot. I have to move all of my stuff to this new apartment.
And I have just an air mattress and all my stuff everywhere. I didn't have furniture for a while.
I slept on an air mattress for a while. But I've turned this kind of home into now where I've been for three years because I haven't moved because continuously my either my finances like change or whatnot.
I definitely make more money than I did, you know, pre-Tokyo. But I still kind of like wasn't sure because it was based on deals.
So sometimes you get a big deal. Sometimes you don't.
Sometimes you're in a really dry period. But she's been amazing.
I barely see her. I barely see her.
we very much so cohabitate in a just a very respectful manner.

Beautiful way.

Beautiful way.

I mean, they barely know her.

One time she had a meal with us.

Yeah.

I feel like I know her pretty well, actually.

She's very nice.

Yeah, she's very nice.

But what we're both good at is like we both have different lives.

And everyone asked me like, oh, you know, did you live with some of your teammates?

And I was like, I see them for hours a day. I don't want to have to go home and see them as well so i made sure to live with somebody not in my team because also i want my business to be my business i don't want you asking where i'm going i want to just go i want to do shady stuff not really right but if i did feel like i'd need to do shady stuff just in case um she is very chill we kind of just respect the space i'm not a very passive aggressive person it's like one time i moved a plant to a table and then she moved it back the next day and i was like heard loud and clear i hated it over there for sure heard i hated it there and i just kind of go with it so i just we just work out like right now and honestly i'm the best roommate for her.
I haven't been there for a half a year. It's a storage unit.
So she's living her best life. And then I'm going to go back for maybe four days.
And then I'm leaving again for like 10 more weeks. Are you going to warn her that you're coming back for those four days? I will warn her.
Yeah, yeah, she'll be fine. And she's very like chill about it.
But there's no washer dryer, no AC. My room is west facing too.
not the coordinates in the summertime my room can get a hot greenhouse and i don't i haven't bought an ac yet for three years i have like three fans ripping i'll have three fans fully nude but i refuse to buy an ac right now because i'm like i you're in too deep you've done three summers so now i'm like i can't buy another one i i keep thinking i'm gonna move too and i just like no i i'm not so you just like it there it works for you it's very tiny though great roommates great roommate it's hard to find a great roommate like that like you're afraid to let it go i i've only ever lived with roommates i've never really lived with friends well like i've become friends roommates, like especially in college, like my freshman year, I had an amazing suite and then an amazing roommate. And then we all would hang out and, you know, like outside, we'd go to the dining hall, do college stuff.
But since moving to New York, I've really, I had a sublet for one month. And then I immediately found this place.
and it was a thing of they were interviewing like

30 girls and somehow i got it nice and to this day i still don't know why because i was i think i was 22 at the time during this interview and they were both 28 and so like at that age i think those are pretty like wider gaps and i know that i knew that they were like interviewing a bunch of girls probably like closer to them like age wise but i was i was the lucky winner um and i was so thankful because it was incredibly cheap when i got that apartment in 2022 it was 890 a month um in on manhattan in manhattan that's crazy but describe your apartment oh describe your room so alona's west facings facing mine is a seventh layer of hell zero sunlight zero sunlight the room i had was a classic new york shoe box where there was a window but it was an air shaft window so you got five percent natural light in there and i worked from home so it really was a hellscape i remember like my first winter in there i called

olivia and i was like yeah i don't think that this is like seasonal depression i think that this is just depression actually and she was like really yeah you think oh and i came to visit one time and i was like so where do i put my bag there's just no room for that yeah luckily i have moved out of that room um one of my roommates got married moved out and so i took her room for a little bit of a pay bump,

or price bump, but not that much.

And that one is almost too much sunlight so i've gone from like really extremes like i'll have to close my shades uh during at like 3 p.m because the sun is just hitting way too much which is a blessing in new york so i found it off facebook um the other roommate that we've since had to find we also found on facebook and we've been very lucky like we all get along really well and like although we don't see each other outside of the apartment we are friends in the apartment like my roommates know so much about my life like they're like oh that's that person you don't really like right and i'm like how do you remember that and like bringing up old stuff where like I've forgotten about it. And so it's very interesting.
And like, that's that person you don't really like, right? And I'm like, how do you remember that? And like bringing up old stuff where like, I've forgotten about it. And so it's very interesting.
And like, it's a wonderful housing situation, you know, like, I don't feel the pressure of living with friends, you know, because that's going to maybe extend into your life outside of the apartment and ruin the friendship. But I just instead have great like roommates.
well when I in new york city i lived in a four bed so four so three roommates plus myself no living room just a bathroom and a kitchen singular bathroom that was like a wild time but also like such a new york city like it was a moment in time you know it didn't seem crazy to me because i was like just moved to the city i was young out of college and it just seemed like yeah that's what you do and you move to new york city and i was there for a bunch of years because it was a great price and a great area like close to um transportation and amazing food over in astoria i loved it and i've been now i look back on it i'm like whoa i was doing that that's crazy but like it had to be done and i'm i'm glad for it four roommates one four people one bathroom crazy and you also had a male roommate too i remember that was that freaked me out because i was still i think i was like 19 the first time i visited and i was like she's living with a man a strange man and it's not like you guys were friends it wasn't a new girl situation at all he's lovely like and like a lot of them they all traveled for work and stuff too so it was it was a classic new york city situation but i guess we get into some roommate debates what do you guys think what is an unethical thermostat level like what should that be kept at my place doesn't have a thermostat right right no joke right right once it doesn't even have heating doesn't it have no my place doesn't have heating either there's a heating unit in the hallway that doesn't work man does not work my place doesn't have ac heating we have a dishwasher whoa i've tried to turn the heat on i think it's for show that little knob right i'm freezing sometimes my place can get real cold and then it's real hot just the extremes okay yeah so say there were a thermostat and you could keep it at something i couldn't even tell you i'm i'm out i'm out of my knowledge of thermostats and what's a good temperature i would say for ac like i know some people like a 69 eight well but that's just but that's just like a thermostat temp like one of my teammates always has it at 69. um who is it say lauren doyle name the freak is that too cold is that too cold no no i do i love like a 68.
wow when we're home in vermont who's paying the bills dog me wow when we're home in vermont i'll put the heat on at 71. when you're in when it's winter yeah when it's winter yeah that's heat i don't know how heat works but i will say new york most educated among us i am um we have no control over the heat yeah that's dad's domain and actually i tested it out because it was getting so hot in our apartment this year and my roommate had a little like it was like a little portable thermostat i guess um and i because she was like it's so hot and she put it in her room and it was like i think hers was like 85 or something and i was like i can beat you because with my windows and the sun coming in and i also have a pole the loudest pole you'll ever hear like a hot water pole yeah i shut all my windows because i have to keep my window perpetually open in the winter because it's so hot it's still open to this day um and i close everything open the drapes all the way close my door let it cook right and it got up uh to 93 degrees what that's crazy but there's a meme out there that we shared with each other where it was like the hottest summer i ever spent was in a pre-war apartment in new york city in the winter and that's my every day speaking of that though you know what that's like our house in vermont yeah no your room specifically our rooms in vermont so my room in vermont can get aggressively warm in the winter because it's the first place that the heat reaches oh my god it gets hot i'm opening windows in the winter i have my door open mom and dad had to install that little fan in the corner to like crank air out of there it gets no heat by the time that by the time because it's hot water right through the radiators or whatever it is by the you know it hits alona's room first and then it's cooled off by the time it reaches i'm the last room on the circuit sometimes you cocoon yourself and let your heart go well i think actually that habit might have stemmed from that i do this

thing called my cocoon i'll throw a blanket over my head it's so i think it might have stemmed like that for hours no fresh oxygen coming in under there but she does it so that her warm breath You can't circulate around.

And sometimes it gets so cold.

I have like Snapchat memories.

I was like 3 a.m i had to leave my bed to go to the bath and slowly warm my toes and it had to be warm water because the hot water was burning my nose. Oh my God.

She has like a space eater in there. Yeah, she's got a space eater pointed at her face.
It's so cold. There's also like, she is a bed rotter at times.
My birthday episode. My birthday episode.
She's like, she's just cocooned

in the air.

You go to wake her up.

You go to wake her up

and you gotta like

peel back

the layers of the cake.

The moist one.

And she's just been

using her breath

to keep her warm

under there.

And like glass

is just like moist.

But she's like

petrified into a solid

frozen steam.

Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.
It's also because I think that's like technically an addition wasn't that like built on yeah so like the heat doesn't probably get over there and then my room perfectly temperatured um goldilocks i'm literally goldilocks but it's also because my room is closest to the actual thermostat so when the if my door is closed and the heat stays in there it's not getting out and the thermostat isn't registering it so then it just creeps cranking hotter stuff into a loner's room so i couldn't sleep with my door closed but our dad is also definitely one of those dads who can like sense when there's been a change when someone's touched the thermostat and he's like he'd be like come here i'll tell you if you if you need it to touch this thing come here i'll show you how to do it you listen and you turn it a little bit do you hear that click hear that click that's the heat coming on that's it stop don't do it anymore that's if he if that's if he lets you touch it classic dad he now lets me uh change it i think because i've complained so much and he just knows what i've been through he's been nicer about it he's been chiller about it like i'll go take a bath downstairs he's like turn that thurn instead up make sure it's hot when you get out of there why don't you treat yourself okay oh my god i'm like a princess like this is living you got money now okay i am confused though so 68 degrees is like cold how does is 71 like warm that's just like a i think like a livable temperature oh that's like chilled it's not like really heat no it's just like a normal but like in the winter if when it's really cold outside you can just have it at that 70s to be like a normal temperature okay it makes sense i think that's just like a normal you're always trying to make it around there do you think sisters are better roommates than than randos or friends probably i have an idea do you have an idea please share because you've now lived with Olivia as an adult we live together well but I also like my again my am an anonymity anonymity anonymity or like my ability to just do what I want because I'm not stopping you from that well you want to know everything that I'm doing though but that's a sister thing like because you like to be mysterious sometimes I love to just like go out she likes to slink off I like to slink off like this too like not even tell y'all where I'm going they have my location tracking so I already feel like that's I feel like the eyes of them are watching me wherever i go but i love that i can just leave with my roommate and just she doesn't care where i'm going i don't have to tell her when i get back where i've been again sorry my crime is caring too much i have gotten to the point where i ask my roommate sometimes because i'm curious i'm like where are you going yeah yeah because you're so entwined in each other's lives it's also just nice to know and i'm also like i i'm curious are you going to your salsa dancing are you going to crossfit like what am i going to hear about later cool yeah so you like friends or randos oh sisters friends randos there's friends randos i do we since we are close, I do think we live together well.

Like when we're at home, like at Christmas and things like that, that I would put you guys above.

I do think it comes with maybe more challenges, but I think it might be more rewarding.

And then I'd go randos and then friends.

But also I can't speak on friends.

I've never lived with friends.

I am so jealous sometimes of my friends who live with, you know, their friends.

And like they talk about their like movie nights and how they make dinners together and it seems wonderful um but then you hear about like the bad things right so i'm hesitant but i would i'd be open to try it i've lived with like friends and randos i live with my best friend in school and that worked we got along brilliantly like very wonderful um living situation because you hear so many horror stories about like oh they're your best friend and then you live together and you're not actually best friends like so were you best friends i don't know but anyway so that was like really fortunate that we got along so well in that time i like it i like being with you guys i like having you guys around i also love living by myself which is something i'm doing for the first time in my life not that i've had much yeah barely since but on the go too much um on the go yeah i mean i lived with you guys for so long at home so just kind of translates so this to this day and age today as well i don't mind it i think i'd get very catty if i lived with you permanently do you think you're a good roommate yeah i do think i'm a good roommate my worst thing and i know this and i've said this to my roommates i do egg pans and so i think we all have that in our family of i'll make eggs in the morning and then i'll leave the pan on the stove right because it's too hot and or oftentimes i'm cleaning dishes and i forget to look behind me right um and i i'll clean up at the end of the day right but yeah that's my worst roommate habit habit, I think, is my egg pan. Egg pan.
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But in the most important news, happy birthday, Dre, Adriana. Adriana.
Today's not your birthday, tomorrow is. Tomorrow is, yes.
But the big two six. Big two six.
About to be off your parents' insurance. Which I've been on for a month and a half now.
So it was a really bait and switch. I'm getting in all my appointments.
Actually, I got in a lot of appointments on that last insurance I got booted off of. And so I'm just doubling down, honestly.
Nothing like ringing. Nothing like ringing 26 by getting off your parents' insurance.
And I remember, Olivia, when you turned 26, I was like, that's really old. Just getting up there.
And like, I made like an Instagram post for you. And I was like, have fun with your own insurance.
Yeah, that was rude. That was so rude of me.
And I need to apologize right now. Why don't you look into the camera and apologize? Olivia, I'm so sorry that I made fun of you and your lack of insurance when you turn 26.
thank you not lack you were smart and you got insurance right then thank you so i will be going on a self-pay insurance and oh my god oh my god that's so expensive anyway enough insurance talk i'm so sorry are you otherwise excited to be 26 i am um it does feel you know i think i'm maybe now qualified in late 20s which is a little scary 26 27 28 no i'm mid-20s still damn you had to count that on your hand what qualifies well what comes after mid so average is five well i didn't know stop it I just had to double check because I was like maybe we're counting it

because if it's after five well i didn't know stop it stop it i just had to double check because i was like maybe we're

counting it because if it's after five shut up um 26 i'm still in my mid-20s of course

um no i'm looking forward to it you know i used to feel so much like dread each year older i was

turning i remember especially 19 to 20 was crazy and i was like i'm no longer a teenager like

Thank you. to feel so much like dread each year older I was turning.
I remember especially 19 to 20 was crazy and I was like I'm no longer a teenager like crying. I haven't cried for my birthday in a few years now which is impressive.
I'll let you know later today if I will be crying. I don't think I will be.
No I'm cool with it. Do you think you're settling more into yourself with every year you turn? Yes.
I think I'm very sure of myself. I do think that this year is going to be something that I've never really experienced.
And I think there's going to be a lot of growth. And I think I'm going to like explore parts of myself I've never, you know, dived into before.
And I'm very excited for that. I feel that.
I think 26 for me was the first year that I felt kind of like weird to say, but like, okay, turning that age. I'm not like, I wasn't ever scared of aging, but there was something about that, like getting further and further away from your younger self that made me quite emotional.
And I, same thing, like weirdly I cried on every birthday. Like, what is that about? I hear from other girls on the internet that they do that too.
But I remember 26 being the first year. And I think I journaled about it like no i'm becoming more me like i feel myself settling into myself i'm still you know a bit nervous all the time or not not so you know sure of myself and whatnot but i feel myself becoming more that and i remember clocking that on my 26th birthday and it's remained true with every birthday since where like turning 30 i was like this feels right this feels good i wasn't i didn't have that energy that you see in all the sitcoms about turning 30 and it being the worst thing ever I was like hell yeah I think I was made to be 30 this is great I'm gonna miss you know being maybe younger in the city I will say like I moved to New York when I was 22 yeah and I'm how am I 26 already Jesus um and I know 26 relatively is like so young um and that I've been seeing everywhere it's like guys remember like sex in the city started when they were like 33 i'm like good noted good i've got time but i think i've also always been very like maybe not self-assured but like i've always known who i am and we had this conversation when we were in england of like what would you talk to your like like, or say to your younger self? And I was like, I don't think I would talk to, like, have amazing advice for like myself past like 14.
Like, I think I've always been like, yeah, this is who I am. This is what I stand for.
Like, I've definitely learned more about myself, but I think who I am and the foundation has like always been clear to me, luckily um that I just, I'm letting go of like the fear of every new year and what that number may be. The best advice I think I've received this year is actually for my roommate.
I was really scared to go on this date earlier this year. And I was like, we were in the kitchen and I was talking, I think maybe for honestly two hours.
We were going back and forth forth it wasn't just me like hyper fixating on this date um and i was just so nervous for some reason like it was it was again a little like consuming me and i was just like word vomiting i was like i'm so scared to do this and like i don't know why i'm this scared and like it's just a date and she was like just do it scared and i literally was like whoa do it scared and i, like, I was like, hold that thought. I opened my phone and I like wrote that down.
I was like, do it scared. And I think it's just a wonderful message for my entire year of 2025 and then on of it was so good for that moment.
But then I also had so many things at that time that I was so scared of. This is when we were really talking about starting this podcast.
And, you know, from where I was before of like, I was just living a very normal life, like had my little desk job and that was it. And knowing that I'd be entering something where it's, I'd be viewed by so many people and like, I'd have to put myself out there and like, you know, lose the anonymity.
i was scared um and so it was just a wonderful thing of like yeah do it scared it's something that i still want and although it's like scaring me shitless it still could be a wonderful experience and why am i holding myself back from that and i'm just trying to apply that to like so many things of do it scared um and so i think 26 is the year of do it scared i like that and like living without what ifs because like you did it anyway maybe even one day be less scared just do it one day one day even if you're scared do it but hopefully i'll get more confident and i think i do get scared so often because i still feel so new to things and i i will one thing i also want to work on is just I was talking to Alona actually this morning about like it factor and like we were talking about models and just like how I think Alona has like the it factor and like the more I'm like in this like realm and like observing at like shoots of Alona's like you can see it in people like I've never been like that like I've always been like I over change. And I'm like, like, I don't talk the way I would normally if I know I'm being observed by others.
And so I'm just trying to like, I think embody like who I am around you guys, just around everyone and like know that I'm like, just like stop holding myself back because I know I have like so much to share.

And it's hard to like phrase and I don't know if I'm doing it right.

But doing it scared and becoming more outwardly and vocally me.

I love that.

Well, happy birthday, Trey.

Thank you so much.

Happy birthday, Tatiana.

Love that.

26.

26.

It's the best year I've heard.

The hottest, sexiest year, actually. Is okay that's what i'm here all right so no sister how are you gonna do that to me make yourself comfortable right really to everybody listening right now are you gonna do a little asmr a little a no uh they're eating donuts those are the one for me a little bite a little birthday okay have a smidge which one do you feel most like drawn towards probably the glaze we're all okay just take a bite of the glaze we're the one right behind the glaze just take a bite and then pass it to me how are you going to ruin your birthday for her like that that's crazy she really messed up take a bite back to sharing a birthday with

my grandmother every birthday i had to share a cake with her that you learned humility quickly

right right right right that's a tough yeah i feel you but i do think sometimes she would let me blow them out myself so thank you why are you eating it like that oh it's pretty good oh it's cinnamon-y kind of dry but delicious you think you need coffee with that now Adriana's taking a bite be really quiet and now that's a good glaze bite of a glazed donut he's donut Libby Dibby she's chewing it Adriana focus on our segment sorry please introduce the next segment so there's no sister settle it today because there's nothing to settle besides settling

in with a good book.

And I, I would say we are all resident book readers, book leaders, but I get to talk today.

So I've got two for you.

I'm a huge fiction, fantasy, romance, novel person, books.

So I'm first going to start on one of my favorite books that i've ever written that really read that i read are you saying audiobooks aren't real no you said written yeah so i wrote this your donut my favorite book okay i need blood sugar one of my favorite books that i've read. I read it in a point that I didn't know that I really needed it.

And so it changed me and changed my perspective so much.

It was Everything I Know About Love by Dolly Alderton.

You guys love that one.

Love that book.

And you're going to think it's so much about like romance with men or just romantically.

And she does speak on that. But there's so much about it of just uh friendship and the love you find with friendship and the struggles of female friendships and i read at a time where i was really going through something with a friend and she was experiencing the same thing in her book and i think just seeing it written down was just made me feel so like assured that i'm not crazy yeah and it's i think every woman should read it like it's just so well done it's so funny it's so just quick like i love it um it was also the book that got me to go back to therapy because she she talks about a therapist yeah what it did for her and i was like i think that would be good for me and it was great actually um so i attribute a lot to that book and i think you've read it you you have a hard copy too like it's such a great book you can just read it in different phases of life and you'll find something that applies to you and you can highlight and mark down different lines and passages she's a genius she is incredible and the first time i read it was actually listening to it and she reads it.
So there is something really nice about hearing it in her accent, talking about, you know, the structures of school over in the UK, which is very kind of different to what we have here. But it just makes sense coming from someone that's from there and hearing them read it and tell her own stories.
And that book shook me to my core. I love it.
then i um read it again recently because i wanted to physically hold it and highlight and read and like take my time with it uh and i yeah no matter where you are in life it will speak to you in a certain way so that's an excellent call out for dre's book club today what else you got for us okay my fun romance one and i'm probably so many of you've read it if you're at least reading if you're on book talk and so i'm sorry if it's repetitive i'm nervous but i read this ice planet barbarians no i love those i love that can be their segment i've i read half of that book and i couldn't and also i refused to read that book um because i was like i don't need that on my Kindle like I don't need that on my like internet history boring so I as a gag gift for my birthday Olivia got me Ice Planet Barbarian so I could read it and you only got halfway into it yeah I couldn't I bought her a physical book and she disrespects me like that I love that and then I was trying to give it away recently um I'm gonna keep putting that on my shelf I'm sorry I'm crying. Re-gift it.
Someone will enjoy that. I draw the one and I'll take it.

Here's the problem that i ran into is that the bookstore i went to that to buy books weren't purchasing books that day and i was like i'm not lugging this back to my apartment and so we were trying to find like a free little library nearby to drop it off in and then we found one we walked to it the way it was inside a kid's playground oh so i was like i gotta hang on to that i gotta hang on to that i don't know where it is now the gift that just keeps on giving you should have signed it like adriana's yeah if found please return no my book i found i think maybe during maybe during the pandemic, and it consumed me. It was The Deal by Elle Kennedy.
It's a hockey romance series. Oh, Adriana loves a hockey romance.
I love a sports romance. I love a fake marriage romance.
All of that. I can't read sports romances because i'm like that would not happen that's actually against safe sport yeah yeah the team doctors doing what that is really not good crazy that's illegal that's a lawsuit so i i try reading these and i cannot get down with it it's tough this one was sometimes when it's like they're in college it's a bit better because it's not like i feel like i less know or whoa i feel like i know less about like the the systems for that so i'm not like oh couldn't it be that right right ncaa i don't know enough literally bliss yeah in this case alona knows too much but i've read all of those and then i've started to read the spinoffs like it's what are the spinoffs about hockey their kids their kids fall in love it's multi-generational 20 years in the future reading is a hobby to a point that's crazy no it's and i will say when i read those books i was like this is the best series i've ever read No way.
Eating up like i was like this is entertainment this is so good and then i do love i reread those sometimes oh do i do have i read it um i don't know deal have you read it no the deal that's not my favorite one though um that's that's the start i think that's the first one yeah um what's the one i can't remember the one with the brianna i think i can't remember them because they all have like the deal the score the goal so i i can't also even sometimes remember the characters names i'm gonna be like was it was it the insecure freshman one yeah right right right right right and all the characters present in this universe like you'll hear mention of other characters from other books in other books i love when they're connected like no and it's like that and do you love it are you like hey boogies when you see when you see your favorite characters they're in the relationship and i'm like oh my god they're so happy together still but what i was saying is i sometimes reread them and i'm like oh this isn't what i well i told too many people about this yeah and now i'm telling more people about it but i think it's a good like entrance okay into into hockey romances hockey romances or just a quick a quick read okay you need something fun yeah that's how i feel the way you elona feels about sport romances in that way it's how i feel about like office romance culture ones where like i'm like no no no no no no that's wrong any pregnancy trope the hallway no i mean the stairwell no hr sometimes when um i'm reading a book and you ask me about it and then you read it

I'm like, Olivia critiques

them sometimes a little too much.

It's not that serious. She does.
I read stuff

that you guys don't like. It feels a little judgmental.

Sorry, you guys judge my books too. We also don't

read the best books. I think

Adrona and I read, she probably

reads the worst sort of books. I read all

the worst books. I don't judge it.
She also

will read autobiographies, memoirs. I real books do you yes i do okay i have my libya five broken blades great book actually when did you read that a month ago okay okay yes that's why i have my liby app and so whenever i get something off hold that's my real book time what

hurts for me is when i do read something that isn't considered like highbrow and it is like a romance and i'm like oh my sisters would love this because they read trash it's like and then they both are like uh it wasn't that good i'm like what which one did you really did sexy four horsemen of the apocalypse oh

she loved that one those books were so good tell them the theme of that because that's kooky no go basically right four horsemen of the apocalypse famine what is it pestilence pestilence death and war right now imagine that he's playing in pestilence one because i think it's pestilence are they the four horsemen yeah it's four horses so pestilence and plague famine famine famine pestilence war death yeah anyway you get it those the four the four horsemen of the apocalypse but imagine them hunky right and handsome and they're here to destroy the earth like it's an apocalypse that's crazy except they fall in love with a human woman and that she changes their this is insane they're like their quest to destroy and they realize like love is real and human the human race deserves to um exist and they are so good it's usually after they've killed like one continent actively killing like thousands of people but they're not killing her you know what i mean war beats her no he didn't i guess he doesn't no i mean read your own wrist that's some sort of stuff that the girls would love though that's the kind of thing i read two or three of them they were good i loved them but that's the kind of thing that i read that i was like my sisters are gonna love this this is right up their alley and they were both so judgmental of it i was like okay adriana i'm not gonna put you on blast with this i know you're reading but yeah what the hell i did read this you did read them right yeah and i was reporting back to you they got a little crazy not really maybe i don't remember them so please don't take my word for it you know if you go and read this isn't an official recommendation this is not a special recommendation i do not condone anything that happens in these books um that's the main thing we don't condone these books they were fun yeah sometimes you need just like a little crazy book yeah and we have much more for you yeah because already i'm thinking about so many others but i don't want to share them all now taste of one we both gave one here my series that i can read front to back are you doing that oh yeah you know we want to know which one built billionaire boy club it's these these billionaires right right they're in a they're in a club together they got like tattoos they're all in club um and then they find their ladies my favorite one i can know i could probably read this one once a month i love it so much and of course it's smut he is a scarred billionaire in a mansion can't get anyone to love him a lonely virgin she out there ghostwriter he sets up this scheme to get her to come to his mansion because he has secret letters in the library turns out he paid for those letters to be there just so he could spend time with her and then of a lot ensues a lot ensues you get what i'm saying um i even read it during christmas i read it over christmas again i've probably read that 15 times you're forgetting the name oh beauty and the billionaire aptly named beauty and the and it's from the billionaires boys club one of those ones that i read that she loves and i read and i was like what are my sisters doing here what do they got going on happening the apocalypse books that i like if they're reading this stuff nope nope Nope she loves those though have you read all of them I've read most of them yeah yeah and later I'll get into werewolf books yeah not just shape shifters in general right it's a whole I no no I've read some shape shifter stuff I'm a werewolf purist for me i'm like a bear shifter that's too free that's crazy that's crazy i've read bear shift no ifs ands or bears about it i love that one i love it i love it i think i called it one time I was like, what are you reading? She was like, I said to put one down. It was about a mountain lion shifter.
That's too out there. I was like.
What? You know all the terms for it, too. Can I also clarify? I'm not reading those freaky deaky werewolf ones.
Why are you reading? Because there's levels to the werewolves. And I was raised on a Wattpad.
Right. And that is very just like normal.
It's kind of like, you only see like the hierarchy. Hierarchy? Like, yeah, there's the hierarchy.
And that's really, and they just shift. And that's's it none of the freaky sexual stuff but i just read the very like classic like simple it's like a

twilight not not that way but like a twilight like jacob who turns into a wolf and he loves

and they have mates that's it there you go yeah and that's it and that's it you dirty minded

there's nothing more you're a bunch of freaks stop judging us yeah thank you so so much for coming over to house of mar a wave original presented by the new samsung galaxy s25 ultra be sure to watch and subscribe on youtube and listen wherever you get your podcasts plus follow the show on social media at House of Mar for clips and behind the scenes content.

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