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Speaker 1 We got Twilight. Which book did I enjoy the most? I think I might have really liked Breaking Dawn.
Really? I was an eclipse baddie myself because of the tent scene on the top of the mountain.

Speaker 1 Edward is there, but he's got cold skin, right? And she's freezing on the top of the mountain to protect her from the bad vampires.

Speaker 1 And Jacob, the werewolf, has warm skin, so has to get in the sleeping bag with her. Edward could read Jacob's mind the entire time.

Speaker 1 That is great literature.

Speaker 1 Welcome or welcome welcome back to House of Marr, a wave original. The Wi-Fi password is vampire underscore baseball.
And you should understand why I said that as we get into the episode.

Speaker 1 You should know we have a few house rules. Girls are magic.
Reading is hot. And so are you.
I am Alona Marr. And this year I am very grateful for everything that my body does for me.

Speaker 1 It's been through a lot. I'm taking some time off from rugby, so I'm trying to figure it out and heal the best I can, but it's keeping up with me.

Speaker 1 And I'm Olivia, and this year I am grateful for, I mean, I guess you said body, but I really want to say my legs for carrying me through my first ever marathon. And I live to tell the tale.

Speaker 1 So I'm pretty grateful for that. Thank you, body.

Speaker 1 And I'm Audre Amar, and I would say I'm grateful for,

Speaker 1 I think, the growth I've had this year. A lot of self-discovery.
Oh. So, like, maybe, maybe my mind.
A year of life. Of realizing things.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Realizing he, what is it? He lies. What's the only way?

Speaker 1 No, wait, what is it?

Speaker 1 Do you know what we're talking about? No.

Speaker 1 It was like a whole Tumblr thing where it's like realizing, real eyes, he uh he lies like because

Speaker 1 people understand that. Alona I'll send it to you later and you'll get it and you'll understand.

Speaker 1 And I think I speak for all of us when I say that if you are watching or listening to this and you've been here since we started this year, we are so grateful for you. So thank you for being here.

Speaker 1 And if you're listening, you can also pop over to YouTube to see us. This episode, we're not decked out in fancy attire, but our sweats.
Because it's cozy.

Speaker 1 It's the episode before Thanksgiving and it's raining outside. This is pretty much how we present on the holidays.
We stay cozy at home with the family.

Speaker 1 So we thought we'd bring it to you here for this episode. I like it.
This Thanksgiving, though, we will not be at home. We're in Mexico City.

Speaker 1 Traveling with the family, which is the first time I think we've traveled as a family on Thanksgiving, right? Because you are normally playing a tournament in like Dubai.

Speaker 1 Right. There's a Sevens series stop in Dubai, so Alona will be there, and we are all watching from various parts of the country, whether together or not.
Up at 2 a.m. catching your game.

Speaker 1 The time change is insane.

Speaker 1 And Sevens is such a sport, too, where it just gets your heart beaten for like those 14 minutes and then it's two o'clock in the morning and you're set to go back to bed but you can't because you're just like wired and awake awful stuff um but this year we're traveling we're very excited we're going to go to mexico city with uh lonely planet journeys and they've created an entire itinerary for us so i'm just sort of it's the first time i'm kind of in hands off on a travel and a trip and I'm sort of letting them do it.

Speaker 1 I will be doing more research, of course, but I'm very excited to eat and experience.

Speaker 1 We're going to be doing mezcal tastings and tacos and uh hot air balloon we're a little spooked how are we feeling about that hesitant

Speaker 1 i don't know if i'm doing that i think you are no i told them yes for all of us so it's kind of half an hour five of us big bitches in a in a hot air balloon yeah yeah those are big the baskets are big are they they were telling me that it's the safest mode of air travel can well

Speaker 1 let's open that up

Speaker 1 what's the study on that you know i feel about articles anyone can say that right right it's big balloon that's behind this big balloon behind this okay

Speaker 1 don't even talk about big blimp geez oh

Speaker 1 big blimp no that'd be sweet too those are pretty dangerous i think i'm scarred about hot air balloons because of the amanda bind show one of her skits had a character whose mom was like lost in a balloon do you guys remember in a hot air balloon you guys remember this oh mom

Speaker 1 why'd you have to disappear in that hot air balloon Was it not her mom in a hot air balloon? Yes, it was her mom, but like one of her skits characters' moms. No, I think that's.

Speaker 1 i don't know i just i already don't like flying that much

Speaker 1 but like and so like when i'm on a flight and there's a little bit of turbulence i'm like it's safer than a car ride it's safer than a car ride like statistically but

Speaker 1 so i haven't seen those stats for hot air balloons yet we're hitting two extremes that day we're doing hot air balloon and then we're doing lunch in a cave so

Speaker 1 Some of us are only doing one of those activities. So we're doing them all.
It's going to be great. Okay, what do Thanksgivings normally look like for us?

Speaker 1 I wake up. Mom has been cooking for a few hours.
I sit on couch with coffee to watch the parade, but really only the performances. And I don't care that they're lip singing.
No? No, I don't.

Speaker 1 Because I'm like, you know what you're signing up for by watching. Right.
And it's just, you're there for the vibes, really.

Speaker 1 I feel like I was, when I found that out when I was like a tween, I was like devastated. I felt so hoodwinked.
They fooled you for 15 years.

Speaker 1 They fooled you for years. I had no idea.
I was like, oh my gosh, look at Ashley Tidsdale Go or whoever it was singing their holiday special

Speaker 1 on a M ⁇ M's float or whatever it is.

Speaker 1 Favorite Halloween food? I mean, favorite Thanksgiving food?

Speaker 1 I am into stuffing like with gravy on it. I will say hot take.
I think a lot of people believe this.

Speaker 1 Thanksgiving is very much so one flavor profile. Okay.
In many ways. Okay.
Dull. No.

Speaker 1 Dull. What on Halloween has a really Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 Why do you keep saying that? You said it. Okay.
What on Thanksgiving has like a solid flavor, you know? True, that's different. Name it.
Name something. Go.
Mom squat. Squeeze potatoes.

Speaker 1 That's like mild.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 Mild, you know? Yeah, it's nothing's going to like kick you in the face with spice. Yeah.
It's not a holiday. It's supposed to be cozy.
You're not supposed to be like sweating and like

Speaker 1 agitated. It's also, it's like so beige.
It's such a beige. It's like a beige beige thing.
So you get that cranberry thing. I remember my teammate, Naya, she's a black woman.

Speaker 1 She went to her friend's house and it was just, you know, a white family.

Speaker 1 She told me, I looked at that table and I had to get out of there because it was all like the most basic foods, like green meat and casserole.

Speaker 1 I've never really experienced that. Our mom doesn't make that.

Speaker 1 Not well made. And a lot of Thanksgiving, you have to do it well.
A lot of people don't do it well. They do it so basic.

Speaker 1 Well, that's why I'm amazed that you're saying that it's all one flavor potra because you could eat our mom's Thanksgiving and mom's

Speaker 1 unbelievable cook. Cook, no, it's delicious.
Right. And I think I'm happy we have a day to celebrate that.
I just don't. I'm like, what is it that everybody eats the same stuff? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it all tastes kind of like, I don't have to eat it more than once a year. I agree with you on that.
But it's still special. Yeah, it's a special meal and I love it.

Speaker 1 It's not like I'm craving a Thanksgiving like meal, but it really just, it's perfect for the day. Right.

Speaker 1 I think the flavor profile to me is led by salt and sage. Salt and salt and sage.
Should I start a candle company with a new

Speaker 1 coffee shop just found?

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Adriana, you said that you don't like, you just get up and drink coffee, but you've gotten into recently making pies with that.

Speaker 1 Recently, I've been on that grind. I used to do that with him.
When? 15 years ago?

Speaker 1 That's been Dad and I's thing. No, ask him.
It used to be my thing. Yeah, but then it was mine.
It became mine. And then you took over.
And that's fricked.

Speaker 1 Well, sorry that you had to go to Dubai to play with

Speaker 1 that. We'd make pie crusts.
Please name the pie. It's a fabulous pie.
Sweet potato pecan bourbon maple pie. She made it.
You made it recently by yourself. It was banging in.
It was really banging.

Speaker 1 We made a Thanksgiving meal around Christmas time last year because we weren't all together for Thanksgiving last year. And it was awesome.
Everybody had a job. Alona is now our family

Speaker 1 turkey briner. First time Briner.
First longtime eater. That's her.

Speaker 1 I killed that shit. She did.
And by me, it was also my mom mostly helping me. Like, I'd be like, mom, what do I put in?

Speaker 1 She stepped into the other room for like 10 minutes. She came back.
She was like, all right, I figured it out. I was on TikTok.

Speaker 1 She'd watched like so many brining videos and you came back and got it done. Well, we just made it.
It was a game time decision. And we did a whole Thanksgiving meal.
Yeah. Because

Speaker 1 we had a chick flu. I gave him that.
Oh, yeah. Our dad was sick as a dog.
We thought we were just going to be cooking chicken and our mom had a giant turkey and alone.

Speaker 1 It was like, who's going to brine this thing? Oh, yeah. Mom does, because we don't do Thanksgiving.
She got it in her head that I need to do Thanksgiving with the girls when they come home.

Speaker 1 So she got this massive turkey. So then I was like, we got to make Thanksgiving.
I've got bad news because she was already talking to me about Thanksgiving at Christmas. You got to tell her no.

Speaker 1 No, I want to do it. No.
Why not? Okay, but don't get a full turkey. Okay.
She's not going to roll with that.

Speaker 1 Think about the big ass. No.

Speaker 1 I'd rather eat other things.

Speaker 1 I'd rather eat her other stuff. Yes, I agree.
Okay, one day, though, of turkey and stuff.

Speaker 1 Her stuff on it.

Speaker 1 She also probably still has like a huge

Speaker 1 the freezer.

Speaker 1 I'll make the panel. No, you can't cafeteria calf like pick and choose your way through a hot

Speaker 1 Thanksgiving meal.

Speaker 1 Just turkey, mashed potatoes, and stuffing. And gravy and pie and

Speaker 1 cranberry sauce.

Speaker 1 Everyone who'd like to do that pudding.

Speaker 1 Okay, you can't do that. Maybe record pudding at another time.
For supper, I'll do it. But I'd rather have, like, if we're going to do meal with mashed potatoes.

Speaker 1 Mom always makes it a Dutch thing.

Speaker 1 Hachbale. And then I can't say it.
What's the spinach? What's your kale? Darling. It's just like a meatball.
It's a Dutch. What's the kale mashed potatoes?

Speaker 1 My speech impediment really gets me on that one. I can't do it.
Yes, you can. Say it.
Say it. Tell me one more time.
Bulko. I could be saying it wrong.

Speaker 1 Huh? Shut up. Bruko.

Speaker 1 What's your speech impediment? No, it's just too many R's.

Speaker 1 It's a lot of R's that, like, some reason. Like, I've had practices with mom on this word.
Can't say it. Can you say the word the rural juror? The rural.

Speaker 1 The rural jaw. We'll see.
I think maybe in positive, we're going to Mexico City, so I will have a spicy Thanksgiving meal.

Speaker 1 You will?

Speaker 1 Oh my gosh. I will be fulfilled.
Oh, excited. We're doing like a chef's table on Thanksgiving as well.
So you're getting better. Even better.
Good freaking food. I hope this turkey.

Speaker 1 We know you guys are American, so we wanted to make your mailing sense flip a table. I know.

Speaker 1 They're like, so we made this turkey as dry as we possibly could to make you guys feel at home on this. This gravy is watery and slightly loose.

Speaker 1 We did actually try the American Classic green bean casserole just for you guys. Oh, we had fresh ones, but we made sure to get canned for you guys.

Speaker 1 Right, right. Delicious.
No.

Speaker 1 But we do, when we do, we have a lovely Thanksgiving. Like, I haven't been to it in a Thanksgiving at home and I'd say seven years.
Whoa, whoa. Yeah.
Yeah. I haven't played it in a while.

Speaker 1 Every time I'm in Dubai. Internationally.

Speaker 1 So that'll be cool. Who's setting the table? Who's clearing the table? Well, Adriana sometimes does not want to take the table apart.
So she's...

Speaker 1 She get your plates so freaking dirty around the sides. There's just like salad dressing in grease.
You pick up their plate and it's almost slipping out of your hand.

Speaker 1 And it's just like a sensory thing for me. I hate clearing the table when you guys have eaten because you don't leave a clear path for like grip.

Speaker 1 I hate it.

Speaker 1 So I often set the table and I like to pick out the little glass turkey that mom puts the cranberry chutney in. Yeah, she's cute.
She's quick to set the table.

Speaker 1 She's quick to set the table, and then it comes time to clear it. And she's like, oh my God, I have to go to the bathroom.
Well, that's not. I've had to go through the rule.

Speaker 1 If you set the table, you don't need to clear the table. Right.
You said this rule. That's bitter rule.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 was this pre-high school or like pre-college rule? Maybe? We've always had this rule. Okay.

Speaker 1 But you have to take your plate to the dishwasher. Oh, that's the other thing, too.
Yeah. But still you have to take your own plate? That doesn't make any sense.
No, I think it's fair.

Speaker 1 Because then if you got the sides of your plate greasy, you can deal with it yourself. Olivia and I eat good.
Okay. We eat with a lot of sauce.
I will lick a plate. Then I'm touching your saliva.

Speaker 1 Get over it. You'll put what? We put sauce on everything.
Gravy on everything. Salad dressing on everything.
I know, because in our family, we finish a meal with salad.

Speaker 1 And so then it's just the sheen of salad dressing on the plate. Would you guys ever do a turkey trot? I would.
I would. Well, I got our matte in real quick.
That sounds awesome to me.

Speaker 1 It does now that I've started running, I will say. You've changed.
I've changed. I've literally changed i used to be like 5k should we do one mexico city

Speaker 1 yeah i'm down is it gonna interrupt the parade what parade the parade oh while we're in mexico city or just like in the future like if i would do one like i still got to make sure there's time for the parade i mean we eat like an early lunch as our thanksgiving meal so maybe because there wouldn't be time between the parade and um the meal so you might have to either wake up

Speaker 1 I'm down to do a turkey trot. Perfect.
5K. Okay, because I can't currently do 5K.

Speaker 1 I just ran a mile and a half yesterday.

Speaker 1 She's on a journey.

Speaker 1 Okay, my journey.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to run a mile under 10 minutes.

Speaker 1 And then Shmuchi hits that 10 minutes. She's going to be like,

Speaker 1 she attempted this back in 2020. And to get this goal of running a mile under 10 minutes, she would go out every day and run one mile.
One mile. That's it.
Nothing before, nothing after.

Speaker 1 And then as soon as she hit under a 10 minute mile, she never ran again. Hung up my running shoes.
What was the time you got? 9 what? It's like 9.58.

Speaker 1 And I was like, cleared. I think even a little bit was downhill.
And I was like, I was teetering around, does this count if some of it's downhill? But I was like, no, it counts. I'm over this.

Speaker 1 It doesn't count. You got to do it again.
Well, I'm on that journey now.

Speaker 1 But for me, like, if you're running one mile and you're trying to get under 10 minutes, it makes sense to do a mile every time. Right.
Because you're working on that one mile. Right.

Speaker 1 I didn't know anything about running. Still don't.
That's why I had to do a mile and a half yesterday. We get her on one of those running apps and they reach puts in, what's your goals? Run one mile.

Speaker 1 Sorry, what do you? They're like, no, that's not. That's not a function.

Speaker 1 Today, walk 10 feet. Yeah.
And I guys, I was huffing and puffing during that mile because I was trying to like set a good pace, like base time. I got, what was it, 11:52?

Speaker 1 And there's so many times I was like, oh, I hate this. I want to stop.
And I was like, that'd be so embarrassing if I stopped.

Speaker 1 And you kept going. I kept going.
Went back out the next day, did one of those like guided runs, which some of those people are in the wrong career path? I was telling them.

Speaker 1 It was almost sexual the way that they were like talking you through this run. Like, I was like, they're talking me through something else, it feels like.
What were they saying?

Speaker 1 Just like the, don't listen to your body, listen to me. I was like, hello?

Speaker 1 Just shit like that. It was actually crazy.

Speaker 1 I also think they're trying to do that link.

Speaker 1 Who, which, which coach was it again? Right, right.

Speaker 1 So maybe, maybe they could do both. That's what I'm saying.
I'm proud of you. This is big.
Good for you. So check back in in a few months because maybe I'll hate it.

Speaker 1 And maybe I won't want to continue. But now I've got like a digital footprint.

Speaker 1 My influence. Literally.
You watch the marathon and you're like, I could run a 10-minute mile.

Speaker 1 What's your mile time? Like, what's your fastest mile time?

Speaker 1 I could probably, I haven't run a mile since I would say college. Like a timed mile.
As fast as I could get is like a 630. 6 630.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Back in the day when I was fit. Okay.

Speaker 1 Well, you're fit now. Maybe that's a dramatic.
I don't really know, but it was something like that. I don't know if it, I remember it was like 645, 630, but it was around one loop.

Speaker 1 So it wasn't like, you know,

Speaker 1 maybe I'm lying. On a track? But I'd say it's 6:30.
Yeah. A track is four loops for a mile, right? Yeah.
Yes. So you had a six-something.
Why are we laughing?

Speaker 1 So, like, how, like, four, like, I could do a 400-meter in this

Speaker 1 under two minutes. So then, if I was doing it that, it'd be like two minute, 400, eight-minute mile.
And then if I was really pushing, so I'd say it's about 6:45, 6:30. Should we go test this?

Speaker 1 Should we take cameras outside right now? Yeah, I'll do it.

Speaker 1 It's me running behind her. Alona was joining me for a couple of my marathon training runs by the end there.
And there was like one day I had to do three miles.

Speaker 1 And I was keeping my pace that my app was telling me to keep. And she, though, when she's like, oh, it's only three miles, let's get it done.
She starts booking it.

Speaker 1 So I'm like trying to keep pace with her. And I literally almost passed out by the end.
I was a little woozy. Spooky.
I feel like you could pace me, like, I can't pace now. Push me.

Speaker 1 Oh, I could push you

Speaker 1 for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like you go on a run, a slow run, but it's gonna be fast for me, and that would be good. Yeah, I got you.

Speaker 1 Because I remember when we went on that little run in Burlington, um, there was one point where you had to speed up, and I was like, No, I'm okay.

Speaker 1 And Alona was like, Run with us, and I was like, Yeah, because it wasn't that much of a speed up. All right, well, we'll go out together, you and I.
Let's do this.

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We want to go over the classic

Speaker 1 film that shaped many a childhood because it's making its way,

Speaker 1 is it back into theaters or what's it? It's liked in theaters. Just in theaters.
Pre-released. You might not have seen it.
If you haven't seen it, that's weird, but I'll give you a little

Speaker 1 synopsis. We got Twilight.

Speaker 1 It is a beautiful tale tale of a 98-year-old vampire, teenage vampire, who

Speaker 1 can read minds, right? He's just in school in Washington because they can't be in the sun or they glitter. Right.
And while he's in science class one day, this girl walks in.

Speaker 1 Smells amazing to him. Smells amazing to him.
Like, like too much. And then he can't read her mind, but he's read most people's minds.

Speaker 1 They then fall in love. She finds out he's a vampire.
That was crazy when she found that. She guessed it too.
She guessed it as well. She did research.

Speaker 1 Then she was targeted by other vampire clans.

Speaker 1 And then there's three more movies. And there's four more movies.
There were four more movies. Right? Because they had to make this the last movie.
They broke up.

Speaker 1 And that's Twilight. I would say that Twilight is a, at least number one, is a cult classic.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure.
It's a new cult classic. Do you call it an instant cult classic? I would.

Speaker 1 The way I was locked in, As we know, dad had to sit you down. I thought my dudes considered that at the time, though.
You don't think so? It was just like a moment. Girls, like young girls.

Speaker 1 It was seen as like a movie for teenagers. More movie for teenagers.
It wasn't taken seriously because it was like for girls.

Speaker 1 What? Famously.

Speaker 1 I don't know how you would define cult classic, but like

Speaker 1 at the time, it was really not, it wasn't designed to be that. Maybe it was.
Maybe cult classics needs time to like run.

Speaker 1 I feel like number one was made that way because the difference from number one into into the second one New Moon even just the style the budget that it was given the first one was almost made as an indie film.

Speaker 1 It was directed by a woman. Catherine Hardwick was the director.

Speaker 1 It was made by Summit Entertainment and the blue lighting that you know it to be the it just felt it didn't feel low budget, but it didn't feel like a grandiose like Hollywood blockbuster.

Speaker 1 Like a hunger games. Like a hunger games the way that from the get-go that felt a certain way.

Speaker 1 So the switch up in vibe and feeling from Twilight to the second movie, New Moon, the way the colors are automatically warmer, it feels more like there's more money behind it almost.

Speaker 1 I feel like the first one was made as like this. And arguably, the second one should be moodier.
Yeah, right?

Speaker 1 She's depressed as hell. But we are not talking about New Moon today.
We are talking about Twilight. Ladies, what do you remember from reading the books?

Speaker 1 Now, is this a safe space to say I've never read them? You've never read them? No, I tried to, and Olivia took the book out of my hands because I was too young. She was.
And then how old was she?

Speaker 1 I don't know. they weren't in that book they were in the last written by a mormon barely

Speaker 1 stayed in black it was written by a mormon yeah okay but she was little how old was i when that when they came out and we were reading them i don't know but i have a very distinct memory of like reading the like first few pages by the window you took some joy from her i don't think you took real joy from her i think i stand by what i did i think you were young and because you came to me about another book one time and you were like they're doing something weird in this and they a girl had been giving a blowjob in it and i was like yeah that no wheat nope it was actually les friends or something like that.

Speaker 1 You snitched on that book to her? No, she came to me and she was like, They're doing something weird in this book. And I was like, Show me.
I felt very guilty to read it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I literally went to her, like, yeah. I would have eight.
Stars are being a good older sister. I've shared this before one time.
Well, this isn't. Well, let's get back to Twilight.

Speaker 1 No, tell me, please, no. You know, I was watching, I was reading like 50 Shades of Gray.
Yeah. And mom found it on my Kindle.
You were like,

Speaker 1 how did I get there? I was like, Mom, how? I don't even know. I don't know how I got there.

Speaker 1 I swear I only read a couple chapters and then I stopped. And then I stopped.
I thought it was a book about painting. I thought it was different.
Sorry. Which is also a fanfic of Twilight, I guess.

Speaker 1 Oh, it is.

Speaker 1 I think I've read them many times. I read Twilight a lot.
I think I enjoyed, which book did I enjoy the most? I think I might have really liked Breaking Dawn. Really?

Speaker 1 I don't remember. Maybe because they work that way.
I was an eclipse baddie myself because of the

Speaker 1 tent scene on the top of the mountain where Edward is there.

Speaker 1 But he's got cold skin, right? And she's freezing on the top of the mountain to protect her from the bad vampires. And Jacob, the werewolf,

Speaker 1 has blonde skin. Yeah.
So has to get in the sleeping bag with her.

Speaker 1 And famously, one of my tweet favorite tweets ever, somebody tweeted once, this that weather that had Bella cuddling up with her side man in front of her current man.

Speaker 1 That was

Speaker 1 so read Jacob's mind the entire time.

Speaker 1 I forgot about that. I remember my middle school teacher was like, it's just so disgusting that a 98-year-old vampire

Speaker 1 looks like a teenager.

Speaker 1 And I was like, that sounds pretty awesome.

Speaker 1 Hot vampire. Actually,

Speaker 1 for a lot of the books we read, where it's like a 500-year-old Fae male, and then like the 20-year-old, if that, that makes that sound bad, and the 20-year-old human girl get together who eventually will turn Fae.

Speaker 1 98 isn't that bad.

Speaker 1 That's not going to be backed up at all.

Speaker 1 None of that. That take was terrible.

Speaker 1 From 500 to 100. I guess.
So was she 17, though, when the book started?

Speaker 1 I think she was 17. Oh, so then she waited till she was 18.
Yeah, they waited.

Speaker 1 They waited because it's a Mormon book.

Speaker 1 I think that started off my love of vampire books because after that, I read

Speaker 1 a hefty amount of vampire books. And Vampire Academy after that? Vampire Academy.
You love Vampire. That's one of the best, well, the best book series ever read.
Another book series you've reread.

Speaker 1 Constantly. I've reread that probably nine times, I'd say.
The whole series through. Yeah.
Oh, my. Even the side series about the series.
Not the side series. No, that's the best.

Speaker 1 You got to read those. I've read all those.
They're not as good to me as the OGs. When you love something, like you love it down.
She loves it down. I love it hard.

Speaker 1 You love hard. Vampire Academy is great.

Speaker 1 Immortals After Dark. Immortals After Dark.
There was a series that everyone else was also reading called like Marked. Do you remember those? Do you read those ones too? Back in the day, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Name one, I've read it.

Speaker 1 Name a vampire book. She's read it.
Name Name it. Do it.
I can't think now, but there's so many others I've read. Love them.
Anyway, did this spark your love of werewolves, Ojana? No.

Speaker 1 I was a Wattpad girl. That's where I got into it.
Really? This was like, because this feels more like a vampire series, you know, that has werewolves.

Speaker 1 This is famously both a vampire and a werewolf series. But, well,

Speaker 1 it's marketed as vampire. Guess so.
Guys, do you think these vampires are believable, though? The glitter? No. I don't think these are some of the best vampires written.

Speaker 1 You're telling me they're like as hard as stone and can't die? How have they not overpopulated the whole earth? Right. Because they can die.

Speaker 1 Well, the Voltori famously keep them under control. But also they have to kill their victims when they eat them.
They have to? Yes.

Speaker 1 The venom either turns in or kills them.

Speaker 1 When you think about it, that's not possible for them to go unnoticed. Right.
And they're killing that many people. Well, that's why some have turned to deer and other wildlife animals.
Barely. Right.

Speaker 1 The alternative ones. There's a lot of people.
And you're famously not allowed to turn children. Famously not allowed.
Which is a theme in interview with a vampire

Speaker 1 right so that's not you know that's not a good thing in vampire lore

Speaker 1 it's gotta suck she said oh get it okay okay all right hand

Speaker 1 and a god a hot vampire comes to you let someone like edward we're talking about trial that so it's edward right Robert Patton's an Edward or whatever you think of in your head when you think of oh so that's a no you letting them suck your blood well I'm dying from the research I didn't say you were dying.

Speaker 1 I said

Speaker 1 from the research I've done. Right.
Most of the times it feels good. Besides Twilight.

Speaker 1 Besides Twilight, most of the times it feels really good. Yeah, Twilight, it burns like fire.
Twilight burns like fire always turns you into a vampire. And a vampire trading process is really painful.

Speaker 1 It's like a drug. It's like, you

Speaker 1 nice. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I've seen it.

Speaker 1 Edwards, no. Which again, I don't think is, you know, it's not, it wouldn't work out.
It's not factual, you know. Other vampires, I think, could exist.

Speaker 1 I with the vampire diaries vampires because it's not going to kill them or anything like to turn like you have to have vampire blood in your system and then die but i also like how they can have daylight rings and then go outside and have things like that for me that's more intriguing daylight rings i just think the glitter thing is really stupid yeah what was the plot like what was the purpose of that oh because they can go outside and

Speaker 1 Because the sun isn't going to burn them, but they're going to glitter. They're not going to burn them.
They don't die from the sun. What was like, evolutionarily, what was the purpose of that?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Evolution-wise for vampires? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Why was that the decision in her brain? Stephanie Myers.
Straps.

Speaker 1 Stephanie? Stephanie. What would happen? I don't know because I think she was maybe still trying to keep it teen or something by having it glitter.

Speaker 1 Was it that his skin is so hard, like it's impenetrable? It's like diamond. Is that like the...
Well, maybe. Yeah, that's what we're getting yeses all the way around.

Speaker 1 But all I know is that this is the skin of a Beller. What?

Speaker 1 This is the skin of a killer, Bella. For real.

Speaker 1 That's all we get about it, really. I've heard that they don't like to be known for those roles, Robert Pats and Chris.
Really?

Speaker 1 He just did like the lie detector test interview

Speaker 1 with Jennifer Lawrence, and he said that he would do another Twilight movie.

Speaker 1 He started his career. I think he used to say he wouldn't, but now I think he is saying he would revisit.
Well, I think

Speaker 1 he's done such a good job of building his career and taking other roles, you know, that he

Speaker 1 really launched him to do like

Speaker 1 the Lighthouse and Mickey 17, Batman.

Speaker 1 But I can hear it, like, because if you do a huge franchise and then you're forever known as like,

Speaker 1 like even Daniel Radcliffe, like he's Harry Potter, but he's taking a lot of other roles. Right.
Things like that. But people aren't able to like reference those movies as quickly.

Speaker 1 Whereas Robert Pattinson now has like such a huge catalog. Jennifer Lawrence has such a huge catalog that you can know them from other stuff.

Speaker 1 So it really depends on like if you can shed the franchise. It's always going to be there.
Right. And I don't like it when actors like talk bad on the franchises that like did give them a kickstart.

Speaker 1 I think like Jacob Belordi is constantly talked about on TikTok and various apps because he, I think he was making commentary on the

Speaker 1 sappy movies and people being like, sir, we know you from kissing booth one, two, and three.

Speaker 1 That's where you got your start. Let's not forget it.
So be humble. Okay, Edward Cullen to you guys.
Hot? Creepy? Both. 98-year-old man.

Speaker 1 No. Presents as a 17-year-old.

Speaker 1 I was always Team Jacob. I don't think he was ever for me ever.
Really? When I was watching, I think I was, I liked Jacob more.

Speaker 1 I think I knew that, like, oh, I should like Jacob more, but there was something about having read the books and like just falling in love with Edward that I was like, I Edward all the way.

Speaker 1 And then I can't look at Jacob the same after Breaking Dawn and what happens. Stephanie Myers is something weird there.
Nah, she. But Bella should have ended up with Jacob.
You think so?

Speaker 1 A healthy boy who wouldn't have turned her into anything. Right.
She could live out.

Speaker 1 Stay with her friends and family. Friends and family.
Right.

Speaker 1 I think Bella just wanted to be a vampire. I think she just wanted to be a vampire and like

Speaker 1 character or same. Right.
No, we've talked about this of like, would you rather be in this universe, vampire or werewolf? In that universe? Yes.

Speaker 1 I don't like that. They're vampires.
So werewolf. So werewolf.
Because like the bond the werewolves have is so strong. That's true.
It's true. Oh yeah, because they can all communicate.
Right.

Speaker 1 Pack link. Pack link.
Okay.

Speaker 1 And that's also seen in many werewolf books as well. I had someone come up to me yesterday.
It was at one of Alona's shoots. I have not had a conversation with this woman ever.
I don't know her name.

Speaker 1 She goes, have you ever read Wolf King? I was like,

Speaker 1 hello. Your brand precedes you.
I'm just literally, I was like, didn't know this would ever happen to me. I was like, yes, I have.

Speaker 1 And then we showed each other our Kindles. Which is very intimate.
That's a very intimate act. I was like, give me a few seconds to delete a few titles.
I couldn't show my Kindle right now. Why not?

Speaker 1 What's on there? I got some stuff on there that I'm not proud of. Like what? Well, I can't check.
She's just not. I can't.
What are our privacy? What are my privacy? My Kindle privacy. Anyway.

Speaker 1 Kindle tour.

Speaker 1 Kindle tour. When?

Speaker 1 When. The Twilight books and movies meant everything to me.
Thank you guys for asking. I was so obsessed with them because because I was the ripe age.

Speaker 1 I was the perfect age when those books and movies came out. Like I was tween early teen, I believe.
So it was like targeted to little little miss me right here.

Speaker 1 And it was the first thing I think I loved and obviously loved Harry Potter, but I was still young.

Speaker 1 And this was the first thing that I was like, oh my gosh, you know, you're, you're maturing, whatever.

Speaker 1 I was obsessed to the point of our dad needing to like sit me down and be like, you need to relax. Like,

Speaker 1 we have addictive personalities in our family. You just need to be careful.
You talk about it too much. You like, that's all I would talk about.
It's all I would do.

Speaker 1 I had my favorite fandom website where it was like Twilight Update News. Hear me here.
And I'm wondering if any of our watchers or listeners also went on this website called His Golden Eyes.

Speaker 1 I was on that thing daily. And it was like updates on shooting, updates on casting, updates on the next book, updates on like what if or whatever constantly.

Speaker 1 It was like like paparazzi shots from set, like this kind of thing.

Speaker 1 Parody videos. Remember Hillywood Productions? Yeah.
They did those Twilight parody videos that were like music videos and amazing. Yeah.
I loved Twilight with everything that I have.

Speaker 1 Thank you for sharing. Thank you.
You have true love right there. I really did.
No, it was an obsession.

Speaker 1 Parasocial. Yeah, I believe so.

Speaker 1 She had Twilight. I had the Percy Jackson books.
I was the ripe age for that. Lily, what was your series? Have we talked about Vampire Academy before?

Speaker 1 Because I think we have, because I have two strong opinions. Just share again.

Speaker 1 They have tried to make two versions of Vampire Academy, the film and the NBC Peacock TV show. And both, look at her.
Look at Alona's face right now.

Speaker 1 If you guys are only listening, you are going to want to slap. Like this, the energy rippling off of her, the anger.

Speaker 1 I just, I think that that was a masterpiece, and they've tried to do it twice, and every time they've failed. That could have been Twilight if they'd had me producing or directing or something.

Speaker 1 But that's what stings the most is that the writer was involved. The writer of the series was involved.
But maybe not as much as she would have liked. So we can.
I don't don't know, man.

Speaker 1 She said in those when I watched those, like that behind the scenes, she was involved in that. Really? And Adriana actually likes it.
Well, I like the first movie as a movie. Like, it's fun for me.

Speaker 1 It's the same thing of you guys and Percy Jackson. Right.
We like the Percy Jackson books. I mean, movies.
We didn't read the books. Horrible.
Horrible. Great movie.
I can't even.

Speaker 1 They're on the.

Speaker 1 Great movie. Great movie.
Oh, no. The whole book is wrong.

Speaker 1 That's how I feel about the Vampire Diaries. And I'm like, nope, Vampire Academy.
I'm like, that's pretty fun.

Speaker 1 It's got, who's that Nepal Baby? I really like Zoe Deutsch.

Speaker 1 I really like Zoe Deutsch.

Speaker 1 She did a great job in that. Yes,

Speaker 1 she's not the right body type for it. She needed to be a little bit more.
We need a muscular girl in there. Yeah.
I understand that, but it was a fun time.

Speaker 1 And I did try to watch the TV series and I was like, something's good. I tried to watch it too.

Speaker 1 I gave it a good shot. She gave it the old college try.
Once again, Rose is, I think Rose is one of the best characters. Rose is the main character, Vampire Academy.

Speaker 1 I think I just love Vampire Academy because I related so much to Rose. Here was finally a badass woman who, you know, had a personality, really had a sense of humor.

Speaker 1 Whereas I think Twilight Bella was written almost to really, you could put, she was really bland. You could just put yourself into this character.
She didn't really say much.

Speaker 1 She didn't have a personality. Whereas Rose really had a personality to her throughout these books and a humor.
And I just thought, like, this is a really good character.

Speaker 1 And I actually think Zoe Deutsch would have been good if they just just done a better time, like, directing it or something like that, or creating it.

Speaker 1 But I think every time they haven't done her justice in a way for like how she should be, she should be a muscular badass who kills the bad vampires.

Speaker 1 And instead, this one of the greatest characters I think written was just never done justice. Yeah,

Speaker 1 it's hard for me because I really love Rose. When you reread the books, is it like a winter time, fall time thing for you? Yeah.
Over winter break, I'd always read them. Winter break.

Speaker 1 Hey, maybe I'll do it again. Oh, shit.
She's got it. I just read it.
I just read it. Not this picture.
I just went to

Speaker 1 the bottom of the other winner. All of them.
All seven of them.

Speaker 1 I go through them all. And they get big the further they go old.
Yeah, I do too. I know what's going to happen when it's going to happen.
Every time I'm shocked.

Speaker 1 Oh my god. I love it.
I love it. I should revisit because I only read them through once and I don't remember anything except that in book two, they're in a snowy place to start, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And talk about biting that doesn't kill. You get addicted to it.
Oh, you can get addicted to it, yes. Good point, Adrian.

Speaker 1 Oh, and they have feeders, don't they? They have feeders.

Speaker 1 You gotta read it to understand it.

Speaker 1 It's very good. Oh, they have feeders.
Right, right, right, right, right, right. Right, right.
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Speaker 1 That they

Speaker 1 has a whole list on her phone. Movies by seasonal feeling.
I have a shared note. I've shared it to them.

Speaker 1 So they are allowed to view it and/or add to that if they would like to, where I categorize movies by their feeling, not what season they take place in, right? But what they feel like.

Speaker 1 Which should we hear with Thunderfall? For real, yeah. Please pull it out.
Pull it out. Okay.

Speaker 1 Fall.

Speaker 1 Age of Adeline. I could see it.
Feeling like fall. Okay, yeah.
Right. Yeah, good.
Yeah, I can hear you.

Speaker 1 Age of Adeline is a movie where the main character, something like a freak accident happened basically and she was in an accident submerged in water and lightning hit or something it was something crazy like that and her aging stopped yep like a vampire but she doesn't kind of like a vampire but she don't need blood to live so she has gone through she's had to like hide and have new identities and yada yada yada and she fell in love once and then that comes back to bite her about 30 years later.

Speaker 1 She also has a daughter. She had a daughter before she stopped becoming like ageless.
And her daughter is now an old lady and she's still this young, beautiful person. And it is a wonderful movie.

Speaker 1 It's beautifully done. I love it.
It's one of my favorite movies. Put that on the list.
Okay. It's already on the list.
What's the next one? To me, fall, how to train your dragon, the animation.

Speaker 1 That is such a fall movie. Oh, I hear it.
Okay. Right? I could hear fall or summer, maybe.
Yeah. How to train your dragon.
Okay, I can hear summer. I can hear summer.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 How to train your dragon is about a boy training a dragon. There's an animated film.
You can also watch the live action, but that's just the animated and live action.

Speaker 1 Scene for scene. Frame for frame.
That thing is. I just watched the animated.
Basically,

Speaker 1 he's trying to kill a dragon to prove that he has the Viking worth. And he does shoot down his dragon, but turns out the dragon isn't as mean as he thought it would be.
It's a good dragon.

Speaker 1 But the dragon has lost part of his tail, and it's a super rare dragon.

Speaker 1 So then, oh, he's actually really smart. Hiccup, main character's name, and then builds him part of a wing for part of a tail.
Anyway, great movie. I I love that movie.

Speaker 1 Another one am I going to do that? Just raise your hand if you think dragons could have maybe been real, but they were hunted to extinction. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 Why do they exist in so many myths and legends and artwork of the past? Okay, good. Of course.
Dinosaurs were real. Why would dragons not be real? Exactly.
Maybe they were just dragons. Pterodactyls.

Speaker 1 Maybe. Right?

Speaker 1 And I saw videos of like alligators and crocodiles recently. That's a drag.
That's a dinosaur. Those are dinosaurs, right? They just never aged out of it.
See? Crocodiles? Crocodiles and alligators.

Speaker 1 Those look like dinosaurs. 100%.
They're they're definitely a family person that's what i'm saying there's still rock room in the earth today luca

Speaker 1 the common ancestor what did you say

Speaker 1 luca it's like the the last common ancestor of everything things of all living things like when you trace everything back it's to luca they to luca

Speaker 1 yeah it's like last

Speaker 1 oh i'm thinking of that boy in the sea in italy

Speaker 1 That's a summer movie, and we're not talking about summer movies right now. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
Next on the list. Valencio Bruno.
That's that one, right? Yeah, sorry. Next on the list.

Speaker 1 Okay, this one's, we're not, I'm not explaining the plot of this movie. Harry Potter.
You guys either get it. You guys probably don't know about this one.

Speaker 1 Hidden gems. Hidden.

Speaker 1 Another indie clothes.

Speaker 1 That's a winter or a fall to me. I'd say big winter.
Big winter. Happy Christmas, Harry.
Happy Christmas, Ron. So, practical magic.

Speaker 1 Shut up.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 She has one more for us. Give it to us.
No, it's fine. Keep going.

Speaker 1 Practical magic. Duh.
What? Practical.

Speaker 1 Shut up. Because that's such a Halloween movie.
It's a witchy vibe. It's October.
It's a story of two with... two sisters that are witches.

Speaker 1 They accidentally set a enchantment when they're young about the perfect man so that she doesn't actually find the perfect man.

Speaker 1 Like, she makes this perfect man up so that he never comes to her, so that she never dies of a broken heart, because I think that's what happened to their mom.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 chaos ensues, and it's sisterly, and it's witchy, and it's wonderful. And they make midnight margaritas, and that's what we like to do on Halloween typically.

Speaker 1 And that's why the song, is it just coconuts? Lemon with a coconut mix it up. That's a Halloween song.
Lemon and

Speaker 1 the TV show Rain, R-E-I-G-N.

Speaker 1 Oh, Mary Queen of Scots. That's such an amazing show.

Speaker 1 I've talked about this before. I do not care that the dresses are inaccurate to the time period.
They're putting them in like prom dresses. It's awesome.
But they're adding lace and stuff.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, it's meant for tweens. Yeah.
And I ate it up. I don't care that they're not wearing the correct courses.
It was an artistic choice, and I love that. Yeah.
Freak, yeah. If you want.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can't even. No.
It's perfect. It's a perfect show.
It's a perfect show. When Harry Mets Allie.

Speaker 1 Duh. And Princess and the Frog.
Those are what feel like fall to me. It's a good list.
Yeah, good list. Thank you.
What else would you say? Would I miss? We just watched Lord of the Rings.

Speaker 1 Would we put that on fall? Does that feel like a fall film? Yes, that feels like fall film. That's fall film, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Why? What do you? I just think maybe it's because I didn't like it that much that I'm like, doesn't deserve to be.
Hot take. Yeah, we were kind of whatever on it.
Sorry.

Speaker 1 Everybody.

Speaker 1 It was a lot of men.

Speaker 1 I'm just concerned as how they were winning those battles. No, me too.

Speaker 1 The number

Speaker 1 10,000 Arakai versus five elves it's like what are we talking about and then all of a sudden for the next battle there's all of these hundreds of thousands more people like well where the fuck were they the last battle what geography are we working with it was weird how have they not gotten there if you just got there in an hour yeah yeah yeah yeah like the power of friendship for sure but also outside of friendship the power of just like gay love it feels like No, that was a very gay.

Speaker 1 No, there was a lot of gay undertones. But if you talk to people who love it, like I talked to this guy who loved it and I said, you know,

Speaker 1 it's it's kind of funny and like they're hints of gay he's like what are you talking about

Speaker 1 it's not a hint of gay it's gay you just

Speaker 1 he was like adamant there was no i fear it's gayer than broke back mountain at times it is like no it's i don't think so i think it's just a lovely show's male friendship in a lovely way there were times when it was interesting there was a what did we you sent me a meme where it was like two girls that were like i think it was maybe it was from like from the oc and she's like remember when you made me watch that movie about the gay guys and the mountain did you go lord of the rings a lord of the rings Rings.

Speaker 1 When you think it's going to be Brokeback Mountain, she's like, yeah. Yep.

Speaker 1 Because I, and I was just, oh, when, especially at the, spoiler alert, after they threw the ring in, and then they are on the, like, surviving all the lava coming out, and they think they're going to die because they're surrounded by lava.

Speaker 1 And he's like, I wish, I think I would have married the girl with the ribbons in her hair. And I was like, no.
No, you wouldn't. No.
You want to kiss him on the mouth. That's what you want to do.

Speaker 1 I just don't believe it. None of them are gay.

Speaker 1 If, okay, if, what is it, like one out of ten people are gay, yeah, one of them might be gay, but it's also just beautiful male friendship because they just went through the journey that they went through, right?

Speaker 1 And that is true. The way I act with some of my friends is

Speaker 1 borderline.

Speaker 1 I would have followed you to the ends of the earth. And I would have followed some of those bitches to the ends of the earth.
Right. You still would do that.
It's true.

Speaker 1 I will say it's a very white, yes, male-centered franchise. Whoa!

Speaker 1 I did did like it does apparently it does pass the Bechdel test because

Speaker 1 what one of the movies does because that little girl when they're like escaping her village says to her mom, I don't want to leave.

Speaker 1 So it's that's the two women having a conversation and that's why it passes. Ha!

Speaker 1 It was fine. I wonder if we need to watch the hobbits as well.
People

Speaker 1 you think so? Yeah. Don't make me anyway.
All I got to say is you put me in that editing booth and I'll get that into a quick 90 minute. Oh, yeah, they're long too.

Speaker 1 Too long. Oh, yeah.
Those from those battles. I was like, someone.

Speaker 1 I think that's my letterbox review. It was like, get me in that editing studio and I'll get that Willow Man.
Maybe it'd be smart to do if they re-released it in like a shorter version.

Speaker 1 No, actually, you can watch the extended version. There's even bigger versions from what we freaking did.

Speaker 1 My favorite character was the dwarf, and that's probably on purpose. He was the comedic relief in every single film, but I loved him.
That was my favorite guy.

Speaker 1 I feel like there's more to the dwarf story. Yeah, we just learned they all died in that cave at one point.
But I was like,

Speaker 1 they're all only in the one mountain. I'm very confused about it, and I'm just...

Speaker 1 We probably have to read the book.

Speaker 1 I'm not doing it. I'm sorry.
You want me to first...

Speaker 1 Hot take. I don't read a lot of books written by men or that has a male main character.
It's just not something that I really connect to. So why am I doing it? Well, speaking of books.

Speaker 1 Speaking of Lord of the Rings, trying to read that book. Let's head on over to the book now.
Let's do it. All right.
To close out, we're going to head over to the book nook. Talk about what's new.

Speaker 1 What are we reading? What's old that we've read? What do we love? Get cozy. Alona just finished a book.
I just finished a thriller, Housemaid, which is being made into a movie.

Speaker 1 When I was looking at who the characters were going to be in that movie, I was like, that doesn't align with the book.

Speaker 1 It was good. I listened to it though.
And I think that I can't listen to thrillers anymore because I become

Speaker 1 possessed. Fixated.
And I have to go on walks to read because I can't just sit and listen to a book. I have to be doing something.
So I'm going on walks. I'm listening to it when I walk here.

Speaker 1 I'm listening to it when I do this. I'm listening to it when I make sandwiches.
And thrillers pull you in so much.

Speaker 1 And you just can't wait. Because I'll be reading them like, I don't know what's going to happen.
Like, how is this going to change? I cannot predict things like that.

Speaker 1 And this one was fun. It's about like a housemaid in the title.
She comes to a house, an affluent house,

Speaker 1 and she starts working for this family. And the wife is just absolutely crazy to her.

Speaker 1 You know, but she needs this job because she has kind of a past. And then a lot of stuff ensues.

Speaker 1 And I remember reading it and I was like, oh, what the is going to happen? I've read a couple. I've read a couple thrillers.
You've read some thrillers as well.

Speaker 1 What Olivia and I said is after we read a thriller, we need to detox. with like a fun romance.
Fluffy romance. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because it has messed up my brain and it's all i think about yep i don't think i can read thrillers no but i want to read them i'm like i got an itch yeah yeah you got to break them up oh i want to do it it's just a lot i think if i live alone i couldn't do it though no because i'll be like

Speaker 1 really spooky I like, I love like a whodunit, like a murder mystery kind of vibe, but those are often now thrillers as well. So there's even more like,

Speaker 1 there's something about listening to it. It's in your head.
You're thinking it through at all times. It's not like you're putting a book down.
You're just kind of like. Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 I liked that one. They've apparently, I think they have like, there's a book two and three as well, which I'm kind of like, what? It seemed like a perfect piece of work, but all right.

Speaker 1 I hear you. Do you read Thrillers Leader? No, why would I spend my time getting scared? Right.
I've read The Silent Patient. There's horror books, though, too.
And again, why? Right. Why? Right.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't watch scary movies.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to have a fun time. I don't want to get scared.
Sometimes I'll read like a mystery if it's not like scary.

Speaker 1 But no, I've never seen the only reason I read the silent patient was for a book club. You know what I have been starting to read, which you just read? Tell me.
Checkmate.

Speaker 1 Check and mate. As we all know,

Speaker 1 I'm becoming a chess champion this year. I've been learning to play.

Speaker 1 I do my daily lessons. Adriana no longer plays with me because she's a wuss.
I just

Speaker 1 When we're playing online, I can visualize the board better and I could eat her. But then when we transfer to a physical board, I just, my brain doesn't compute.

Speaker 1 And then Olivia was beating me and I was getting really angry.

Speaker 1 I can't do this anymore. I was like, no.
And there's something about online, even though it tells you where you can move, I can't see the board. I can't see several moves ahead.

Speaker 1 But when I'm on a physical board, I'm literally the queen's game, the girl of the king's game. It's on the ceiling.
I'm literally.

Speaker 1 I see it. So anyway, I like check and mate, I loved because I've been in this chess chess headspace and it was lovely.

Speaker 1 And it's a romance, and you get to know more about the world of chess and competitions, and you know, your rankings as a chess player and grandmasters and stuff that I didn't really know.

Speaker 1 I think she even writes in the back that she takes some liberties with how things work in competitions and whatnot,

Speaker 1 and the world of chess because it's so male-dominated that it was fun that she wrote it for like a woman, like a fictional woman character. It is YA.

Speaker 1 You didn't tell me that. I'm telling you now,

Speaker 1 and I'm sorry to have misled you.

Speaker 1 Fade to black. It's fade to black.
Which, for Allie Hazelwood, that's not normally the case for our girl Allie. Yeah, girl, I'm so sorry, but it's worth it.
It's such a good story otherwise.

Speaker 1 And I was like, I was mad, but then I was still like, all right, whatever. I'm going to say, I've read some really great romances that are fade to black.
And I sometimes

Speaker 1 nice, you know, because it's not like one of those books where we're like, we get it having sex. It's like, you're just always just waiting for like the relationship to like get deeper.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's beautiful. I read a book called Radiance recently.
Have you read that? No. I don't think it's really big, but it's a story about two different species of humanoid people.

Speaker 1 Like pause there. Ruby Dixon sent her a special edition of

Speaker 1 Ruby.

Speaker 1 Ice Planet Barbarians. Ice Planet Barbarians and wrote her a very cheeky little note in the front cover.
That's my girl. Radiance.

Speaker 1 Human girl. A human-ish man, but he is like dark eyes, dark everything.
Like, he's like only pits for eyes and like sharp teeth.

Speaker 1 They fall in love.

Speaker 1 And because they had to do an arranged marriage. I do.
And their two species have hated each other. So they did an arranged marriage.
And so they both find each other to be extremely ugly.

Speaker 1 But then come to love each other. Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. It was okay.
I'd read it. There's many other books after.
Really? Radiance. Radiance.
Radiance. Dre, what you reading, girl? Can I talk Alchemized? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Alchemized, which is the traditionally published book that was Manicold, which is a Draco Hermione fan fiction. Wow.
Speak on it, Dre.

Speaker 1 I read Manicold in like, I think, 2020, maybe 2021, and that changed me. as a person.

Speaker 1 Like, I couldn't consume anything Harry Potter for the longest time. Like, I remember I watched Harry Potter and I was like,

Speaker 1 I was like, fuck Harry.

Speaker 1 I could not deal with Harry and Ron. I was like, disgusting people.
Caveat, we don't support J.K. Rowling.
We are fans of, obviously, Harry Potter. Like, we've watched them all.

Speaker 1 So, like, it is in our sphere of entertainment and media that we do talk about. But so what we are talking about is previous consumed media, of course.
So, Manicold is...

Speaker 1 The most beautifully written fan fiction or honestly book I have ever read. I don't read much fan fiction, but everyone was like, You have to read this.
It'll change your life.

Speaker 1 And I was like, Okay, sure.

Speaker 1 Broke me. Broke me.
It is so beautifully written. It is so, well, it is very gory.
It's very just like,

Speaker 1 it's essentially in this book,

Speaker 1 Voldemort wins. And it's almost like she took Handmaid's Tale and incorporated it.
So, because there was like an infertility issue within the wizarding world.

Speaker 1 And so Hermione gets gets placed with Malfoy, yada, yada, yada. And so she, it was so popular.
She traditionally published it. I was like, I don't really want to read this again, but I, I should.

Speaker 1 I should like, how is she redoing it? I paid my, what is it, 15 bucks, got it. I'm 8% of the way through.
And somehow it's worse. What do you mean? Like, worse of like,

Speaker 1 it's still beautiful writing, but worse of like, It's the trauma the characters are going through is even harder. Oh, interesting.

Speaker 1 I will say she's doing a great job of like, they're no longer wizards, but they're alchemists. And so they're all,

Speaker 1 they're able to like manipulate bodies through like science. And some people have these powers.

Speaker 1 But I had to stop. I was like, I can't do this.
Like, I was, each page, I was like, fuck bracing myself for like the next horror.

Speaker 1 But I will say, if you're interested, do read it.

Speaker 1 But I've read it before. It's a really endorsement.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But but i've read it so i'm like i can't do it again but it is such and should we do it i've tried it i tried the the self-published i've tried manacle and it gave me nightmares i only read it for really three days and every single it's the same thing for when i watch um any hunger games movie I at night I had nightmares right away.

Speaker 1 There was something about it. It was just like twisting and turning in my gut.
Really? And I just like put it down because I also didn't want to ruin like

Speaker 1 what I know know to be Harry Potter for myself. So yeah.
So maybe you could read Alchemized because it's no longer in the Harry Potter world. Yeah.
And like from what, but it is.

Speaker 1 So it would be like reading 50 Shades instead of Twilight. But it sounds like less fun.
Oh, yeah, way less fun.

Speaker 1 It's not fun, but it is incredible. I think just like unreal writing.
And like,

Speaker 1 I don't know how to like even describe it. Like, oh my God.
Wow. Damn.
All right.

Speaker 1 Well, on that really delightful, lonely, brilliant note, I'd like to say thank you so much for coming over to the House of Mar a Wave Original.

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