Elyse Myers: Grammy Noms, Glinda Margaritas, & The Sexiest Man Alive

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Speaker 4 Welcome or welcome back to House of Mar, a wave original. Kick your shoes off and help yourself to whatever's in the fridge.
The Wi-Fi password is 100 tacos. All caps.

Speaker 4 You should know that we we have a few house rules. Girls are magic.
Reading is hot. And so are you.
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Speaker 4 Our fourth Mars sister today is a creator, author, and certified best friend to more than 11 million people on the internet.

Speaker 4 She's the mastermind behind one of the most legendary viral stories of all time. Yes, the 100 tacos, look it up, and chose to build a thoughtful, intentional creative practice out of it.

Speaker 4 She hosts the smash hit podcast, Funny Cause It's True, and is now a New York Times best-selling author with her debut book, That's a Great Question, I'd Love to Tell You.

Speaker 4 She's a powerhouse of vulnerability and humor. Fresh off her book tour, please welcome the incredible Elise Meyers.

Speaker 4 That was a really impressive intro. You made me sound really good.

Speaker 4 Well, I will say they like to find everything good about people and then put it in. Really kind.
I should use this every day. Anytime I need a confidence business.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I just like to replay that little clip back every morning. That's really like alarming.
I will.

Speaker 4 Am I going to cry?

Speaker 4 So good. I actually watched 100 tacos again this morning.
Did you? How did you feel about it?

Speaker 4 I remember seeing it years ago. Yeah.
And then now I watched it again and I just,

Speaker 4 what a crazy story.

Speaker 4 The funny thing is when I posted it, I really didn't. There was nothing about that where I was like, this is crazy.
This is going to do it. Yeah.
You didn't think that was crazy?

Speaker 4 Well, I've had worse dates.

Speaker 4 this that one was like the it was outrageous because it was so expensive but i just feel like if you're meeting a man online in 2011 like

Speaker 4 that was the vibe it felt like yeah that made sense no okay no i don't know next question i guess maybe

Speaker 4 i don't know i just feel like yeah bad dates i'm like i've they just happen and Ballpark, how much was the 100 tacos on your?

Speaker 4 It was like $152.

Speaker 4 Oh, God.

Speaker 4 how many of them did you think you ate all of them you did yeah not that night no i stole them i told them no i redirected yeah yeah so i with my roommate we ate them over the course of two days and if you've ever had a taco from taco bell they're bad the moment you get them oh my god absolutely like not you know but just they're soggy it's a hard chopped taco but it's soggy so two days later in the in the fridge um i mean i just didn't have any money i was like this is my food now apparently so i'm eating taco bell for two days and there was no air fryers back then to charge a day there was not Great, great point.

Speaker 4 Great point. So it was mushy tacos or nothing.
You should sell the rights to this story. Let's make a movie.
Yeah, let's make it a movie. Like a short film, totally.
I'll just make it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You should just do something. That's right.
I'll just do it. Keep those rights.
Thank you. Give us your minute somehow.
We'll be the Taco Bell employee. We play the Tacos Man.
We play the crazy plate.

Speaker 4 I was looking at my favorite story, though. Obviously, everyone loves 100 tacos, but is edible versus biodegradable.
Oh, my God. That's one of my all-time favorites.

Speaker 4 Same thing. Like these are all things that I saw when you made them years ago, bringing so much joy to the internet and then revisiting them and knowing that you were coming here.

Speaker 4 I was like, God, that's good. Thank you so much.
Do you do your own little animations on the videos? I do everything. That's amazing.
So you time out those tacos? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 So what's funny, at that time, I was editing in-app, so it would take me about an hour per minute of footage because you literally, one by one, had to like add a sticker to the screen,

Speaker 4 long click on it, adjust where it goes. And if, oh my God, God forbid your phone like turns off or glitches and the app always did that, you would just lose everything.

Speaker 4 And I don't know why I was so committed to doing it in app. And it just, and then I was like, oh my God, I could do this on a computer with a mouse and a keyboard.
And it got a lot faster after that.

Speaker 4 But yeah, I just, I'm such a visual person and I have ADHD. And I figured I'm telling really long stories.
And the general rule was like, make a seven second video on TikTok.

Speaker 4 And so I was like, well, if I want people to listen to my stories, I'll just make them interesting to watch like with the little animations and stuff. Yeah.
Keep people interested. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 And then it kind of took off from there. People listened to the whole story and they thought it was cool.
They'd never seen anything like it. And that's kind of where that all started.

Speaker 4 And I just kept doing it. And it's really cool.
A storyteller for the ages. Our mom, I let her know that you were coming on.
She goes, oh, well, I'm one of her earliest viewers. I was like, oh, now.

Speaker 4 We have to take a picture of her mom.

Speaker 4 She was so excited. She was like, no, I love it.
Love the way she tells stories. I love her.
I love when she was working with a pediatric ER nurse. I was like, what are we talking about?

Speaker 4 Did you do collabs with a pediatric ER nurse? Oh, oh, Megan, maybe? Yeah, nurse. Yeah, yeah.
I think she was just at her mom. Our mom's an ER nurse.
She loved that. I love that.

Speaker 4 How long has she been an ER nurse? Oh, 30.

Speaker 4 Yeah. 30 years.
I'm going to have a mom as an ER nurse.

Speaker 4 She's really relaxed. All the way around, but you get the question.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 Well, it's good because you can always go to her with questions, but sometimes she just like, not that she doesn't believe you, but she sees so much that she's like, you're fine. You're fine.

Speaker 4 Whatever. You're fine.
Scale for her level of trauma that she experiences with injuries. Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's so high. So for us, she's like, you barely need Advil.
Move on. You know what I mean? Like it's scary though when she's like, oh.
When she hesitates a bit and you're like, oh, it's bad.

Speaker 4 This is it. This is the end.

Speaker 4 Like, am I actually having to go to the hospital? Yeah. I bet you do that with your kids too, though, where you give them like false confidence.
Like, no, you're

Speaker 4 fine. You're fine.

Speaker 4 With your sports, like, how, does your mom ever... Do you help you with like any injuries or anything? No, but she can't watch me play often.

Speaker 4 She has to pace around.

Speaker 4 And even like,

Speaker 4 wasn't too much. I didn't get into rugby for various reasons until high school.
Yeah. But I think one of the reasons was because it was such an aggressive sport.

Speaker 4 And she'd been at so many of my dad's games where she'd had to run on the field and help out with injuries. So she has a lot of trouble watching, but fine now.
Elise, this is not about me.

Speaker 4 I just like talking about questions. I love talking about myself, but God, you're doing a better job than we are.
Sorry, I'm going to. Elise, get out of here.
No, my dad was a rug player. That's cool.

Speaker 4 House of Elise.

Speaker 4 our names are similar. I know.
You can figure out why I always mispronounce your last name. But you're a vowel.
We don't have an E. We have an I, an O, and a.
Hello. What are you saying?

Speaker 4 The first names. Oh,

Speaker 4 last name. Oh, last name too.
Yeah. Okay.
How do you pronounce it?

Speaker 4 Mar. Mar.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Mar rhymes a star, but you're.

Speaker 4 What? Myers.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 That's fine. She has been on book tour too long, guys.
You need to get her home.

Speaker 4 My last name.

Speaker 4 It's okay.

Speaker 4 Okay, no.

Speaker 4 You looked at me for Myers, too. I was like, I almost just did it again.
Myers. Myers.
Mar, it's fine. Mar.
You're the fourth Mars sister now today.

Speaker 4 Thank you, Mar. I have worked.
I don't have sisters. I always wanted a sister.
So I have three brothers. Wow.
Much older. Where are you in the order? The youngest.
The youngest.

Speaker 4 So my brothers are seven, eight, and ten years older than me. And I'm 32.
So we just, I've got just

Speaker 4 math. And And you have sons.
Yeah. So.
And I'm good at numbers totally.

Speaker 4 I have two sons. I have a husband.
Every dog I've ever had has been a boy.

Speaker 4 I'm like, I just want a sister. Please.
Just testosterone coming out. So much.

Speaker 4 Oh my gosh. And they wrestle.
And I'm like, I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that.
Please. Please, please.
Oh, my gosh. All right.
Well, hopefully we're providing enough. I feel great.

Speaker 4 The feminine air.

Speaker 4 That's how estrogen works. That's how it works.
You breathe it in. You can do it and save it up.
And I bank it. Or you just kind of, you know, tooth your period to each other, too.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's never going to happen again. I just got my uterus ripped out.
Get out.

Speaker 4 Thank you. Wow.

Speaker 4 Well, what was that for? Endometriosis? No, I just had my, it was trying to kill me. And so, but.
Uteruses would be doing that tournament.

Speaker 4 I got to the point before I had it. It was like.
four weeks ago, so right before my tour. Are you good? No, I was like bleeding like 300 of the days of the year.

Speaker 4 And I was passing out in like TSA when I was waiting in line. I was like, my, I was like rapidly dropping weight because I just could not eat because I was so sick to my stomach.

Speaker 4 And like my, my, uh, OB was, cause I, I've been trying to control that for a long time. And every doctor I'd go to like, would be like, just go on birth control.

Speaker 4 And I'm like, I'm telling you, that's going to, I've tried it. My body hates it.
Like, and it made it everything worse.

Speaker 4 And so the day I went to go track my audio book, actually, I went to an appointment that morning thinking we were going to like try something else.

Speaker 4 And she goes, you should probably get, get that taken out, like the whole thing, all of it. And I'm just like,

Speaker 4 excuse me? Like, I'm 32. Like, I'm done having kids.
Like, I'm that, that wasn't a concern or anything. It just felt very like, I have, I'm not, I don't know.

Speaker 4 It just felt like something I would do like in 30 years, not now.

Speaker 4 And so then I go into the studio and I have to like read my book. And I just felt like out of it all day.
Just kind of, it's just a weird thing to process. And also I'm scared.

Speaker 4 I don't want to go through that surgery. And everyone kept saying how hard of the recovery it was.
And so I'm like, well, I'll do it after tour. And she's like, I don't think you should wait.

Speaker 4 Like, I think that the pain of recovery will be better than what you're experiencing right now on tour. And I'm so glad I didn't wait.
But yeah, it was like, it was, it's been a rough recovery.

Speaker 4 So I have like ice on my lap, like on the stage. And it's kind of a whole bit now at this point, but like truly at the, at the end of the day, I'm like, okay, I really need ice though, everybody.

Speaker 4 Like, I'm not good. What was it like having a doctor that actually just be so blunt with you and be be like, this is what needs to happen? The absolute best.

Speaker 4 And it felt like it validated every experience I've ever had, like the opposite of, you know, just like going to a doctor and them not believing you.

Speaker 4 But this specific doctor has like advocated for me so hard. She like delivered both my sons.
And like,

Speaker 4 she was almost going to come to a show and then she had an emergency, which I'm like, you go do that. Like, do that.
You go save the whole thing. You can take care of someone.
But

Speaker 4 yeah, it just felt like,

Speaker 4 Yeah, I felt very validated in how hard it had been and how much I'd been struggling with that.

Speaker 4 And so to now have it out, I'm like still coming to terms with like, I'm not going to ever have a like period again. It's really cool.
I'm really excited.

Speaker 4 I know. But you still have your cycle, which is weird.
So I still have my ovaries. Is this too much information? No, I literally

Speaker 4 have to thank you for speaking about this because I feel like more women who are 32 and whatever, they go through stuff like this too, but I've never spoken about it. So you're crazy.

Speaker 4 So I think even just you talking about it

Speaker 4 so much. And there's so many conditions for like the reproductive cycle that like, and again, people just love to use birth control as a fix, as a band-aid.
Like, I'll go on birth control.

Speaker 4 And I'm like, let's go to the deeper issue. There just isn't enough science and research.
And trust me, like if it worked, it would work. And I wanted that to work.

Speaker 4 I tried it really hard. And so for there to be other options, like a lot of doctors won't do it if you're young because they don't,

Speaker 4 even if you say like, I never want to have children or I'm done having children, they really struggle with doing that. And they, they'll use that as like the very, very, very last resort.

Speaker 4 So women will go in. or people will go in with uteruses and be like, hi, I would like to get it taken out.
And they just won't.

Speaker 4 Just simply, and it's just a bizarre, um, it's my body and I want to have it out. And, and, and they won't.
And so for her to offer that was really cool. And you still have your ovaries.
Oh, yes.

Speaker 4 So you didn't go into the, what is it, the, like early menopause, right? So you still have that. Interesting.
Yeah. So I have it.
It's a total, it's called a total hysterectomy.

Speaker 4 And then they leave the ovaries. And then you still obviate, but the egg just goes into your like stomach and your stomach absorbs it.
So you still have your full cycle. Like I'll PMS and all of that.

Speaker 4 I'll get the

Speaker 4 period like acne, but I just won't bleed.

Speaker 4 crazy. You're going to get the acne still.
I know. Well, it's been so much immediate, like immediately got better.
It's like I'm on the road right now, so it's a little rough, but

Speaker 4 like literally two weeks after the surgery, my face just cleared up because my body had been in fight or flight, like just surviving. So so much, like my sleep has gotten better.

Speaker 4 Like I've not, I was like pulling hair out like in clumps. Like my body was like not good, dude.
Like it was not a good situation. So we're on the men's now.
You're on the men. Oh my gosh.
We'll slay.

Speaker 4 No, thanks Slay. See you thriving.
That's awesome.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I'm really excited.
How are your uteruses, uteri? Pretty chill. Pretty chill.
Pretty good for now. But again, we have had so many friends who like are going through it.

Speaker 4 Like, that's why I say endometriosis. I have a lot of friends who have died and who are going to go in for surgery too to like check things out.
So it is interesting, the women's health topic.

Speaker 4 We've been healthy. Our mom though has been through a lot of stuff like that.

Speaker 4 They do it with a robot. I just forgot to tell you.
Did you? It's laparoscopic. And so they had to.
Do they go through your belly button or something? Yes. No.

Speaker 4 So, no, well, so that's so like right here. Do you see that? So there's four of these little incisions.

Speaker 4 And then, and then they do it with a robot. So they go in, and my OB controls it and they do all the things.
And then, and then they, yeah, and then that's it. You and everything better.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Oh my gosh. That's crazy.
That's wild. So fun.
I hope you make a full, like, come back to yourself and health and just wellness. Yeah, I'm on it.
You're on. I'll do it just for you.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 another book I see starting now. Yes.
Boom. Boom.
Oh, that's true. I know.

Speaker 4 No uterus, no problem. I don't know.
Working on it. You all think we'll work on it.
There's the

Speaker 4 youte. How do you say yeet the ute? Yeah.
Yeet the ute.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 That's when you write that down.

Speaker 4 Yeet the young. No, when you use it to you, your cover photo? Yeah.
Yeet the ute.

Speaker 4 Come on. Oh, my God.
Yeah, no, but like, but like a black and white, like author photo where you're like on a stool and it's like a black turtleneck.

Speaker 4 Are you serious? Compared to that, it's like full color. It's just them side by side.
I'm loving it. I love it.
New York Times bestseller.

Speaker 4 Instantly. Instantly.
We'll get to that.

Speaker 4 We're going to get to that. Hold on, though.
First, let's touch some grass. All right.
We like to remind ourselves what's important in the world. Being on the internet a lot or doing whatever.

Speaker 4 Your head is so out here. We like to get down, touch some grass.
Okay. See what's actually important.

Speaker 4 That's a good frick. You're right.

Speaker 4 That's close enough.

Speaker 4 Set people.

Speaker 4 Today's Touch Grass is brought to you by Perplexity. And they say if you're old enough to remember the Backstreet Boys first single, you should be using retinol, right?

Speaker 4 But what if you're three years old? Because entrepreneur Shay Mitchell, known for her Bayes luggage line, is coming under fire after releasing a skincare line for children ages three and up.

Speaker 4 Have we heard about this?

Speaker 4 What? First time. I don't think Elise has.
And as a mother, we need your

Speaker 4 take on this. So she has just launched Reenie, a K-beauty inspired brand whose name comes from the Korean slang for child.
And the products include a hydrating mask,

Speaker 4 an after-sun mask, and an everyday face sheet mask priced between $5.99 and $6.99 per mask.

Speaker 4 Well, okay, first I was, I wasn't sure what the products were, but a lot of my friends who have like daughters do spa time and stuff with their girls.

Speaker 4 And I would rather have a kid-friendly mask if I'm going to put it on a, because they want to use your products.

Speaker 4 I mean, my son wants me to put makeup on his face all the time and I make sure that it's like safe for him and it's like, it's safe for my skin but he's also four so there's a

Speaker 4 I was judging it immediately but um I think if the ingredients are better for a kid's face and is more just for play than anything else then I think that's really smart that's what I was thinking my first instinct I think was what everybody's I was like that's so wrong like well I don't want to teach them that they should not like their skin or their face but exactly

Speaker 4 be a kid but also well I pictured parents who are doing a face mask and their kid is like well I want to do that too totally totally that's what I saw it as totally but I feel like it's more being marketed potentially as this like every day teach your kids young that's pretty wild vibe i believe you're also like i don't want to teach my kids to like

Speaker 4 buy a bunch of shit

Speaker 4 can i not you can say shit

Speaker 4 say worse scream it

Speaker 4 oh great okay yeah um and yeah i just don't i don't want to teach that like

Speaker 4 you you need all the things all the time and so but if it's a fun i don't know do you what how do you guys feel about that i'm kind of in the same boat of like i remember doing face masks as a kid like we go into the kitchen and put like, oats and yogurt and everything into your blender and put it on your face.

Speaker 4 And I'm like, again, if it's a safer thing, like, obviously, if it's from the kitchen, it's probably not that bad. Yeah.

Speaker 4 But sometimes you'd put like lemon juice in there because it's like, it's the, like, I remember doing crazy shit like that.

Speaker 4 But it's cayenne pepper.

Speaker 4 That's crazy. Every time you put tobaccos go right on my face, it's like really bad.
It really helps strength the pores. That's what I heard.
Right. It extracts.

Speaker 4 So I'm like, let's do it if it's. But also, I'm not spending seven bucks on a face mask, even for myself.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I don't even spend that on myself.

Speaker 4 I like your point about it being playful.

Speaker 4 Because I think my thing is marketing this as if it's need for the kids. I don't like it.
And even, yes, even I see the young kid.

Speaker 4 You've seen those influencers where they're like 13-year-old girls and they're doing their whole face routine and they're putting on like toner and primer.

Speaker 4 And I'm like, I put on moisturizer, vitamin C, and like, that's it. Yeah.
Your skin also is very genetic, has a whole microbiome to it.

Speaker 4 So that's where it gets me that we're targeting so many people to come buy this stuff. Consumerism.
Consumerism. Yeah.

Speaker 4 They had some interesting ads. If you look over, this was the ad on Instagram.
I'm like, no, I don't like that. Yeah, it makes me feel like it's spooky.
So that's what we have not liked.

Speaker 4 Shouldn't it be a little bit more playful? Like you and your mom. Yeah.
Oh, that's cute. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. Sorry.
I don't like that.

Speaker 4 No, yeah, that's how they're marketing it.

Speaker 4 It makes me sad. I think, especially like a young girl seeing that or like, I don't know.
It makes it feel like you need this.

Speaker 4 It should, the marketing should have been like a parent and a child or like a, you know, like a some type of

Speaker 4 bright colors.

Speaker 4 It's giving sad beige mom. It's giving aesthetic.
Oh, yeah. Sad beige mom.

Speaker 4 It's giving like dermatology office with like the ads to like get a laser on your face, which is awesome for adults, not children.

Speaker 4 So I think the consensus is we got to touch some grass, unless it's just a fun, fun girly pop. or boyy pop thing to do with your parent because it's safe for children.

Speaker 4 Immediately I heard dirty pop. Dirty pop.

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Hey. Perplexity.
Out of curiosity, what is the oldest form of skincare? The oldest form of skincare dates back to ancient Egypt around 3000 BCE.

Speaker 4 Egyptians integrated skincare as an essential part of daily life, especially among the nobility. That checks out.

Speaker 4 Using natural substances such as olive oil, milk, honey, and herbs, meat in the kitchen as a kid

Speaker 4 to cleanse and moisturize and maintain their skin. What about the lemon juice, though? Huh?

Speaker 4 Not a single

Speaker 4 Tabasco.

Speaker 4 No Tabasco. Alabaster powder, animal fat, it says copper and lead.
Well,

Speaker 4 everything really comes back in fashion. People are using beef tallow now.
And I've got a lot of thoughts on beef tallow. So like moisturizer.
Have you seen this?

Speaker 4 Because I think you should talk to me about that.

Speaker 4 It's so scary, like, because now people are like whip, whipping beef tallow for their skin, which are like, back in the day, I get it. You know, like, you had to find your fats where you could.

Speaker 4 But nowadays,

Speaker 4 you're putting beef tallow on your face when there's so many other options out there. Like, I also.
But does it work? Does it work? Some people swear by it. Some people swear by it.

Speaker 4 Some people say, oh, it makes you smell like a barbecue. I love that.
I don't know. I love barbecue.

Speaker 4 I know someone who had a homemade sunscreen, a zinc sunscreen beef towel.

Speaker 4 And I was like, no, that's actually what? And I was like, that's... I couldn't, I talked to her like three times about it.
I was like, you cannot use this. Like, it doesn't, it's just zinc.

Speaker 4 You know, like, you're not proven to actually

Speaker 4 help do the like sun protection. Oh, so she's using it in, like, no, there's no SPF in it? The zinc is supposed to be the SPF.
Has she tried it out? Does it work? Does it work? Or did she get grilled?

Speaker 4 Did she get cooked? I haven't followed up. I hope she listened to me.
Oil tallow. That sounds like a baby oil situation where you're like tanning.
That sounds like it would increase the skin.

Speaker 4 And you're just also cooking the beef tallow on your face. I see videos of girls that you use beef tallow as like moisturizer on their legs and their dogs are licking their legs after them.
Yum.

Speaker 4 Like half. It checks out.

Speaker 4 I think my skin is like breaking out thinking about it. Yeah.
Honestly, like

Speaker 4 I've tried weirder things to make my skin look good. So, what's the weirdest thing? People put like salmon sperm in my face.
They really do. A lot of

Speaker 4 also snail extract. What are we learning about vampire facials?

Speaker 4 What are those?

Speaker 4 No. They take your blood.
Oh, yeah. Do something to it, like oxygenate it, and then they put it back in your

Speaker 4 face. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I've seen that. They also do the microneedling things where your face is literally like bloody because they do little.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 It basically like it makes your face heal in a way that rejuvenates the collagen in your skin. I think we need to relax.

Speaker 4 I think not having money has saved me many times because that's, I don't need that. We're good.

Speaker 4 What are we going to find out about these procedures in 30 years?

Speaker 4 That's my biggest thing. I feel like those kinds of procedures probably were old.
Like, they probably, I mean, I can see people being like, you know what you should do? Stab your face a few times.

Speaker 4 You know, true. You're going to love this.
This feels like ancient. And then I'm going to send you to the seaside to feel better.
Okay. Good.
And you will die.

Speaker 4 Or you will die.

Speaker 4 die yeah today is special because our friends over at death wish coffee are sponsoring the episode as well as a little round of a game we like to call scrum merry kill sound familiar so let's do this holidays scrum merry kill halloween thanksgiving or christmas elona where are you going with right uh scrumming means you're getting down and dirty with it down dirty with them why not i will scrum thanksgiving because you eat that feast but like you don't want it all year round

Speaker 4 merrying christmas i'm killing halloween i just did this halloween and dressed up i don't need to ever do it again that's enough for her right enough for me right

Speaker 4 i hate to say it but i think i think you kind of nailed it all right i'm gonna say this i'm gonna kill thanksgiving i love thanksgiving but i can get those foods at christmas you could really make like a thanksgiving feast at christmas if you if i had to kill it you know what i mean and then maybe i'm gonna get down and dirty with a little sexy halloween And Merry Christmas because I'm combining Thanksgiving and Christmas now since I killed Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4 You can't do that. You're Ben in the wrong.
No, you can't do that. I just did.
No. You can't be grateful during Christmas anymore.

Speaker 4 You try to be like, everybody go around the table, say what you're grateful for at Christmas? Yeah, that's crazy. We did that two nights ago.
You know, I do make that.

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I know you've put out music, so I have a feeling you're probably inspired. I love your song that you do.

Speaker 4 If I'm honest, I am

Speaker 4 Brayden Bale's song. Oh, I listen to it often.
I do too. I'm not going to lie.
You can really like it. Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 I love finding songs from artists on TikTok and then duetting them because

Speaker 4 actually singing the harmony with them.

Speaker 4 It's so fun because people are so talented and the internet's so cool where you can just see music you would never see otherwise and getting to like collaborate with it.

Speaker 4 And then it opens up future collaborations with them. Like I've gotten to work with so many people that I've just duetted on the internet and it's so fun.

Speaker 4 I'm like, we're friends now and we can make music together. Putting talent on top of talent, truly, making magic.
I love it.

Speaker 4 No offense to him, but like I think of your voice and like your your harmonizations on that song when I think of that song. So it speaks to me.

Speaker 4 We flew to Nebraska right after that happened and we did like live in-person versions of it in my studio. Yeah, it was really cool.
I was a student. I have a stude.
She's got a stun. I have a stude.

Speaker 4 Nebraska, the promised land. I got to get there.
She's got to go first, dude.

Speaker 4 Fit in in this dress. They said this dress was kind of given like

Speaker 4 300s or something. I honestly, it's stunning.
It's so pretty.

Speaker 4 Where do you go shopping? Because I need more time. TJ Max.
Okay, I love that. You're, um, you have this outfit that was the button-up.
Um, was it sleeveless or

Speaker 4 white? Was it all white? Yes, yes, yes. TJ Max.
But isn't there like a brand in that? Yes, there is. Okay, that's what I wanted.
I wanted that up for you.

Speaker 4 Because it was so, I'm like, she looks so hot. I want that outfit so bad.
She does look hot. I'm not a big shopper, so I love when people like do that for me.
She's gotten into getting style.

Speaker 4 Oh my God.

Speaker 4 Are you getting style? No, I, but I, it stresses me out. Clothes, like, clothes

Speaker 4 really stress me out, like choices. So I pick one outfit and pretty much wear it every single day.
But I think if I worked with somebody to get styled, that would take away the choices for me.

Speaker 4 And I would just get to enjoy the clothes and not like pick them out. But I just gravitate towards

Speaker 4 things that are familiar to me. And so even if I had all these cool clothes, I just know I would still wear this outfit.
And then like, that's it. Is that a uniform? It is.

Speaker 4 I'm a cartoon character for real. I eat the same meal every day.
I wear this. It's in your closet.

Speaker 4 No, it really is. Huge white t-shirt.
You guys know that's really what my closet looks like. Yeah, I have like 14 pairs of the same Nike shorts or the same shorts and the same shirts.

Speaker 4 I have all the same socks. It's just like, um, it works.
It's

Speaker 4 decision fatigue. Exactly.
That's what it is. You're right past that.
I can be more creative if I don't make less decisions.

Speaker 4 Getting back to singing, you just did a cover of Golden as well. Yeah.
And they're up nominated for something.

Speaker 4 Best Pop Duo Performance. And Song of the Year.
Group performance. at the Grammys.
They deserve that.

Speaker 4 It's so incredible. They deserve that.
Her story,

Speaker 4 what's her name? DJ.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Such a crazy story.
Do you know the story of my mom?

Speaker 4 So she basically had been, I'm going to probably get this wrong, but I'm going to try my hardest. She was writing for other artists.
She tried to write for herself.

Speaker 4 And basically when she was young, someone said, you're not.

Speaker 4 Am I lying now? She was under SM for like 12 years and I think she kind of got shelved. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And And so then she was started. Yeah.
And so that song is like, I'm done hiding. Now I'm fighting.
Like be the star I was born to be. And then she gets to like.

Speaker 4 perform it live for the very first time on national television and everyone's just like why haven't you been performing this yourself this whole time so good and it's just so what now when like when now i know that her story i listen to it so differently and it just makes me cry as a mom i'm like i chilled you shouldn't that's never should have happened to you like so it's so cool she's so talented it's up for song of the year and actually we have a lot of we know k-pop we started listening to k-pop 2011 that's our lore So when you were going to talk about, we were listening to K-pop at that time.

Speaker 4 Give me a couple that are like more K-pop suggestions. Oh, my gosh.
If you want OG stuff,

Speaker 4 yeah, we were like, what is it, Second Wave? So we were second gen or third gen. We were what we were watching.
So like 281 was our favorite group. So they were what came before like Black Pink.

Speaker 4 You know Black Pink? I don't know any of these. You would love.
You'd love Black Pink. If you like, if you like

Speaker 4 Hunters or whatever. Hunt Tricks.
Hunt Tricks. Sorry.
Amateurs. Sorry.
I watched the movie twice. I don't know why I I didn't know that name.
I'm sorry about that. Them, what else do we love?

Speaker 4 I was a big girls generation. Girls generation, of course.

Speaker 4 But now there's like, I think they're onto like the fifth wave or sixth wave. It's just like

Speaker 4 every

Speaker 4 kind of these wave figures. It's just the generations of music, basically.

Speaker 4 And you can just see it because everything is so themed and aesthetic. Like that you can just see like, oh, they're like the third big wave.
I think it's K-pop lore and it's not.

Speaker 4 It's not the whole thing. It's not much time.
No, it's not. It's amazing.
You should do a PowerPoint presentation. You really should.
That's actually a good point. I could.

Speaker 4 Sabrina Carpenter is also up for a Grammy for Man's Best Friend. Were you a fan? Of the song? Yeah, the songs on the album?

Speaker 4 I

Speaker 4 was not as much as a short and sweet, I think.

Speaker 4 The country vibe kind of threw me. She's always had a bit of a country vibe.
And the Dolly Parton vibes, though, in the music video, very good. How did you feel about the album? Did you like it?

Speaker 4 I liked it. My first listen through, I was like, oh, and I feel like I do this with most people's albums.
I listen through it. I'm like, it all sounds the same.

Speaker 4 But I'm like, well, yeah, that's their style. It's like what they do.
That's the theme of the album, yeah.

Speaker 4 And at first I was like, oh, it's a bit, you know, she's known for being a bit like promiscuous, like putting her toe right over the line. And at first I was like, like tears.
I was like, whoa.

Speaker 4 Like, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, like, you know.

Speaker 4 shy woman, but I was like, whoa, what's running down her leg? Like, holy smokes. No, I know.
Holy smokes. And now, but I'm at a point where I'm like, oh, I like that thing.
I love it all now.

Speaker 4 Did you see her SNL performance? Oh, amazing. Oh, my God.
Literally the best live like SNL performance from an artist I've seen in a really long time. Shibuzi was the last one that I loved a lot.

Speaker 4 Did you? Sorry. Did you?

Speaker 4 I haven't seen it. Oh, I gotta see.

Speaker 4 Most of the time, vocals are mixed so poorly on SNL. And I'm like, I don't know who you're mixing this for because most people that are going to be listening to this are not in the room.

Speaker 4 And I don't, it can't sound that great in the room if it sounds like this at home.

Speaker 4 And it's very bizarre. And so her voice, because I know the mix is always rough, it was perfect.
I'm like, you are actually singing like so cleanly. And the set was like, she sang into a hairbrush.

Speaker 4 Her microphone was a hairbrush. I got so jealous of that because I was like, I know.
No, I gasped. I was like,

Speaker 4 that's for me. She started.
Me and Jonas were sitting there, like, and she, and she was like, and then she just immediately started singing. And I just go,

Speaker 4 that's so genius. What is that? Way has no one ever done that.
Nobody done that before. And she was straight wearing her underwear on stage, and it was like a shirt in her underwear.

Speaker 4 And I was like, girl, this is the coolest thing I've ever seen on an SNL stage. And then the second one was great too.
Sorry, the

Speaker 4 function.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that one. That's the one.
She was breaking like a, it was just a karate. So yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 People were like fighting behind her and then she would like do this and then just like hit someone or like break a board. It was basically Corey Robert.
She's so badass, honestly. I love it.

Speaker 4 We saw the Short and Sweet Tour here in LA and we loved it. Alona famously doesn't like concerts.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Too many people. But she liked it.
How do I get there? It says before, how am I going to Uber there? And then how do I get out out of there? Too many people. There's lines.
I have to wait for an Uber.

Speaker 4 It's so many people. I have a feeling that you could probably find an easier way to get in and out of a concert.
I don't think you would be in general admission.

Speaker 4 Well, sometimes I just, the thought of that. I also, if they sing the music that sounds exactly like they do on the album, why am I there? Most of the time they don't, though.

Speaker 4 I'm a hater. You're allowed to do something.
I'm a hater. I get nervous in crowds.
Like, I don't go to concerts, so I don't know why I'm grilling you. It's like I'm like, weird.

Speaker 4 that's okay will that tells me everything i need to know about you so yeah

Speaker 4 true true

Speaker 4 um we also so sexiest man alive was jonathan bailey and he's the first openly gay sexiest man alive people magazine yeah my sexiest man alive might have been the frankenstein

Speaker 4 jacob alordi frankenstein's creature frankenstein's creature

Speaker 4 i haven't seen it yet we just watched it

Speaker 4 on netflix yeah

Speaker 4 it was beautifully done it was a bit gory though i will say it's it is what gothic horror.

Speaker 4 So, there was a lot of scenes where we're like, yeah, like when he was making the monster, alone and I couldn't. We were like, I'm not good with

Speaker 4 new.

Speaker 4 I just closed my eyes. Some sneaky gore, too, but the rest of it was so everything was shot and done practically.
He used no like CGI or AI or anything.

Speaker 4 So, all the sets, like there's a giant ship in ice. All of that is practical.
It was all made, and you feel it watching it. It all feels so.
It's almost like a Broadway show when it's done that way.

Speaker 4 Beautifully done. Costuming, yeah.

Speaker 4 I love that. Yeah.
One thing I want to see is with

Speaker 4 how do you say it withering Heights. How do you say it?

Speaker 4 weathering heights isn't that weathering heights i could have sworn it was withering heights my entire life until i saw the ad for it and if there's a year like that's a year i'm like when did that happen hard year right now who changed it when did

Speaker 4 that yeah when was that book written yeah

Speaker 4 i know years ago

Speaker 4 the critiques where it's like margo robbie and jacob alordi are both people who look like they've seen an iphone before oh i love that you know what i mean totally in such a period piece in frankenstein he's got head-to-toe makeup yeah yeah but honestly that is such an interesting point because it's hard to tell what it is about their face that makes them look like they've seen an iPhone.

Speaker 4 But like there are some people that are like, you look like a time traveler from like 200 years ago, you know, like you just look like you're from that time. Yeah.

Speaker 4 What, what do you think it is about someone's face? I honestly think it's how symmetrical. Oh.

Speaker 4 I think if you're very like have a very symmetrical face, then you look more modern.

Speaker 4 Because isn't there that thing like as humans, like each generation, they kind of get more and more symmetrical and more attractive? I think it works out.

Speaker 4 I'm just breeding with the most attractive people we find, or something like that. I didn't say that, but I don't know.

Speaker 4 But I, so, I honestly having sex with, and also, like, the modern health care and stuff, you know, like you have better teeth these days, the better, and the veneers of it all.

Speaker 4 Veneers of people get work done, yeah. Injections, they get work done.

Speaker 4 I don't know. Um, Jonathan, who's your sexiest man alive? If not, Jonathan Bailey, I watched Superman this year, and that was beautiful.
So, David,

Speaker 4 mine's um, Adam Driver. Oh, whoa, I'm really obsessed with that.
Really? Yeah, I love that. Jonas knows he's like,

Speaker 4 you just love, you love yourself some hours. Your smoke show even knows.
My smoke show.

Speaker 4 And he's like,

Speaker 4 he's like, I don't get it, but like, I love that for you.

Speaker 4 Yeah, of course. Yeah.
Because I wouldn't say he looks like Jonas that much. No, no, he doesn't.
So no.

Speaker 4 Jonas, like, her. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, it's just, it's so, every time he does a little red carpet interviews, I love how much he loves his wife.

Speaker 4 Like, there was like an interview where he, some reporter was referring to him, to her as like his date or his guest. And he like puts his hand back and comes and grabs her.

Speaker 4 And he goes, that's my wife. This is my wife.
And he just kept going and snubbed the interview, not snubbed, like walked off. And I was like,

Speaker 4 oh, God.

Speaker 4 So good.

Speaker 4 I love a man that's in love with his wife. It's such a hell.
He is. A big boy.

Speaker 4 Sorry.

Speaker 4 Who's the beautiful gentleman who plays The Winter Soldier in all the Marvel movies? Sebastian Stan. i want to see a picture of him i have not i don't care

Speaker 4 of this man's olivia loves

Speaker 4 marvel do you yeah i do what's what's your favorite marvel movie oh i mean i loved wanda vision i know it's a tv show but i loved i loved that okay those are not good pictures what the hell it's got a big forehead you guys i'm leaving

Speaker 4 this is not good hi pookie yeah yeet the you that's a kind of a yeet the you photo you know what i mean that pick the cover that is it that is a softer snow no i see it i see it oh wait wait, one more thing, though, is that Wicked's coming out.

Speaker 4 Are you excited for Wicked?

Speaker 4 Is that a yes or no face? Oh, my God. Okay.
Strong, yeah. You know, you know, when, um, okay, when you like something so much, you avoid it.

Speaker 4 Like, and other people talk about it, and you're like,

Speaker 4 you don't know it like I know it. And I don't, like, but I know you do, but I'm, like, I can't, no one can feel the way I feel about it.
It's like, I don't know what it is.

Speaker 4 I saw it on, on, like, at the Pantages Theater in LA when I was like 10 with the original Broadway cast.

Speaker 4 It was the first, they did one tour like and then they never, I don't know what way they did it again. Adina Menzel and Christian Chenwith?

Speaker 4 Yeah. All of them.
All of them. Oh my God.
And I, yeah, so nobody does understand it the way that you do.

Speaker 4 Well then, well then, so I went back like a week later or one, however many days later, where they were still there and I saw it again. I was like, someone has to go take me again.

Speaker 4 And then I saw it again like a year after that, but not the same cast, like when they topped it out. And then I got to see it actually on Broadway

Speaker 4 in New York for the first time. And I like bawled the whole time.
And I got to bring Jonas. And he's like, I know it sounds weird, but I get it.
Like, I saw so much of myself in

Speaker 4 Alphaba. And

Speaker 4 Jonas was like, it's just cool because I get why 10-year-old Elise would connect to that character.

Speaker 4 And it was just really special to share that like intense love for this thing that I've never been able to explain with like my favorite person. And he loves it, but it.
He loves me.

Speaker 4 And I love it, you know? And so it was just really special. And so the first, the first movie, I took my pillow pet Wallace and we went and I have a photo of it.

Speaker 4 I don't have my phone with me, but I took a picture of my face after the movie was done. And I literally just was like, I looked like I got hit by a car.

Speaker 4 Like tear, my, my shirt was covered in my tears. The moment like the nameplate came up.

Speaker 4 Jonas like held my hand because he wouldn't look at me, like giving me like the illusion of privacy. And I'm just like silently sniffling already.
Right.

Speaker 4 This is not a normal reaction to this movie. So, anyways, all that to say, yeah, she's kind of like

Speaker 4 that movie coming out. Like, you're chill about it.
I'm very, I'm very nonchalant. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Super, yeah. Yeah, if you're chill, yeah.
Whatever. Alona's version of that level of excitement is also coming out.
What? Zootopia 2.

Speaker 4 I love the soundtrack of Zootopia. Yep.
I love Zootopia. She loves everything about it.
I've watched it probably 10 or 15 times. Anyway, I don't know what it is about that movie, but

Speaker 4 the joy it elicits in me.

Speaker 4 I think it's one of the greatest animated films. I don't disagree with it.
And I'm so excited for the second one. When does it come out?

Speaker 4 End of November, like Wicked. Right after Wicked.
That's my Wicked is Zootopia 2. We should go to a double screening.

Speaker 4 We'll go buy a ticket for Zootopia and then sneak into Wicked 2 or just 2. Chili's.
Chili's. We'll go to Chili's.
Have the apps. Half app.
Oh, my God. Triple Dippers.
And they're also doing drinks.

Speaker 4 Glinda Alphabet margaritas. Pink and green margaritas.
I'm there. Shots of chilled kettle one.
Yeah. Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 4 Cry really hard. Talk about our making.
It's going to be great. It's going to be perfect.
That's my perfect day.

Speaker 4 This sounds great. Alona just really needs Zootopia, too.
She really needs Zoopia. I'm really excited for you.
I love that so much.

Speaker 4 Do you struggle with that, though, when you love something so much you avoid it, or is that me?

Speaker 4 No. No.
Okay. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Same. She's watching Zootopia.
I'm watching Zootopia. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, totally, totally. Do you have an example of that? Yeah.

Speaker 4 In New York, I walked by the NBC building, and my favorite

Speaker 4 show of all time is The Office, but also SNL. Like, and all of those are in, there's like a gift shop of like all these cool things I love, like Parks and Rec, all that.
And

Speaker 4 The Office is something that I also kind of hold very like reverently in my like soul because I got me through so many time, like really, really deep, deep, depressive episodes.

Speaker 4 And I would put it on and it felt like this like comfort thing that would be on the background and really familiar. And so it came came out of nowhere.

Speaker 4 I didn't know we were going to be walking by because I was, had never gone to New York at that point. And Jonas goes, oh my gosh, let's go in and like get something from the NBC store.

Speaker 4 Like, this is so cool. And I go, nope, no, no, I can't do it.
And I just like kept walking. And Jonas was like, that's my girl.
That's my girl. And we'll circle back at some point.

Speaker 4 And we did eventually, but I just needed time to process it. I don't know.
It's like my, I reject it because it's my body. feels all of the emotion coming over me.

Speaker 4 And it's like, this is too much emotion. So I won't, I'm just going to shut it down completely.

Speaker 4 yeah and it's hard to like let myself just immediately feel all of that so yeah i can talk about that with a therapist probably at some point do you guys have a comfort show mine's new girl i love new girl i just went to talk to uh jake johnson oh get out and uh when i talked to him i told him about a song i did where i wrote like nick milla nick milla from the streets of chicago and then i did like a uh harmony looping on it and i i put i made a rap out of just exactly what they were saying in that uh scene And it was really, really good.

Speaker 4 And then I told him I made that. And he goes, that was you? I saw it.
So we loved it.

Speaker 4 And then he... Lamorne.
Lamorne, yeah, yeah. Started following me right after I talked to Jake Johnson on his podcast.
And then I was like, what? This is the best day of my life.

Speaker 4 It was really, really cool. So, yeah, he's so fun.
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Speaker 4 Elise, we're so glad you're here. Growing up, our family said a great day is structured around three drinks, coffee, tea, and wine.

Speaker 4 So come spill the tea with us about how you grew up starting from birth go did your brothers influence you oh yeah i wanted to be just like them they were my heroes we i didn't uh we all had a bit of a rough go with just

Speaker 4 growing up and so they we all clung together and they

Speaker 4 and i just wanted to make them proud and i wanted to be like them i wanted to dress like them and listen to their music and um It was hard because they were so much older than me.

Speaker 4 So they all had each other. So I was kind of like an only child.

Speaker 4 And also because they grew up and then left so early. So when they were all going to college, I was still in like middle school or something.

Speaker 4 And so I had a very different upbringing. They also

Speaker 4 have memories of my parents still being together. And I never, my parents weren't together when I was born.
And so it was like,

Speaker 4 whoa, we like, we talk about our childhood. I mean, every time we get together, it ends up with all of us just like.

Speaker 4 getting a little wine drunk and like crying about you know you know you experienced that too like it's just like comparing notes you know what i mean but all of us together we stuck so close together and they were like my best friends that's beautiful it was really cool despite the age gap yeah close together yeah they and i the credit like they always want to protect me and baby me a bit and kind of make me feel young but they never made me feel like i i wasn't cool enough to be around them or like they just were so they included me in everything and i didn't realize that like other siblings didn't do that so like when my when they all got their license they all separately took me out to ice cream the first thing they wanted to do was take me out to ice cream cream in their car, just us alone.

Speaker 4 And they're like, that's so cool. Like those memories like that are so specific.

Speaker 4 Like my brother Trevor, I remember would put me on a pillow, like one of the cushions in the couch and put me on the pillow on top and then like fly me around the house and give me magic carpet rides.

Speaker 4 Like, yeah, like, and would, they, when I couldn't sleep, like my brothers would literally sleep in my crib with me or on the floor next to me. Like they were my best friends.
It was so cool. Angels.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I feel like you never hear that story from brothers.
So I know. They beat me up and they stink.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think that because it was so rough in our house, we all, they all just collectively decided like, we're gonna, we've got her, you know? And I've always appreciated that.

Speaker 4 My brother just moderated my show last night.

Speaker 4 So I got to introduce him and

Speaker 4 nobody knew who it was. It's surprise every time for each guest.
And I got to like hype him up to the crowd and say, I mean, he's an amazing father and brother and son.

Speaker 4 And most importantly, he's my brother. And so welcome Trevor Jones.
And we got to talk and he just was looking at me the whole time.

Speaker 4 Like there's like a crowd full of people just there for me and like giving me a standing ovation when he comes out. And I'm like, Trevor's like, I can't believe this is happening.

Speaker 4 Like you're my baby sister and this is happening. And it was, we cried so many times.
Like every time he tried to tell me he was proud, he just, I was like, you can't, you have to stop. Like,

Speaker 4 we're not going to make it through this show, Trev. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And he's so funny. And like my sense of humor is from them.
And

Speaker 4 yeah.

Speaker 4 So I like them a lot. I I love it.
And do you see that dynamic with your sons?

Speaker 4 Yes. And it's the most beautiful thing to watch.

Speaker 4 They're just getting to the point now where Oliver, he's two. So I have a four-year-old and a two-year-old.
And my two-year-old can like, he's not talking yet, but he understands what's going on.

Speaker 4 And so if you say anything, he totally gets it. And so they talk to each other, but he babbles and August like.
wants to give him hugs and kisses all the time.

Speaker 4 Like they cuddle on the couch and watch TV. And it's just like,

Speaker 4 I just want that dynamic in them so bad. And I'm like, I made their best best friends I made you two and now you're friends and I made you guys it's so cool it's I love it so much

Speaker 4 they're the sweetest they also wrestle really they're very strong toddlers are so

Speaker 4 whatever however strong you think they are stronger stronger

Speaker 4 twice as strong like truly and August has like an incredible arm and he I'm like you're gonna play baseball for sure one day yeah it's so crazy so you'll be putting him into sports if he wants to I'm not that I don't want to be that parent that's like you've got to pick something you know I felt that pressure.

Speaker 4 And then when I wasn't good at it, I felt like I just had to stay in it because I had to pick something. And I get that, like wanting to make sure your kids like are well-rounded or have an activity.

Speaker 4 But like, I want that to be their choice because that's a lot of pressure. Honestly, if you could just make it through, you're good.
Get past high school, get C's. I don't really.
You did it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 If you're a good person, you're happy. Yeah.
I just, there was so much pressure. And I, I, I was like such a bad student, dude.
I, I, I had really bad ADHD.

Speaker 4 I did, I was undiagnosed at the time as autistic, but now knowing, looking back, like that system was not built for me in any way. And I just was made to feel really dumb.

Speaker 4 And I just, if one person would have given me permission to be like, you just have to pass. Like

Speaker 4 my childhood and my time in school would have been a lot smoother. And so I think I want to find a way to incorporate that.

Speaker 4 like release of pressure in my house so that they know that it's like all good if they're anything like me when they grow up you know navigating common girlhood rituals was trickier and anxiety ridden for you.

Speaker 4 Yes, yes. How did you get yourself through it enough that you are who you are today? What was your method? Doing it scared.

Speaker 4 I didn't have like, I'm not learning any of the like makeup and hair stuff until I was in my 30s. That's kind of when I realized I would like to know how to do all of this stuff.

Speaker 4 I think that because I grew up with brothers, I felt like

Speaker 4 awkward. dressing like a girly.
I don't know what girly even means, but you know, just like doing my hair and learning makeup and all that.

Speaker 4 But I think when I didn't feel like I fit in or when I was anxious,

Speaker 4 it's a story in the book, but I had a little magic eight ball keychain named Lucy, and she quite literally made so many of my decisions for me.

Speaker 4 And I would just shake her and ask her if I should go to this sleepover or if I should hang out with this person. And I would do what she told me to do.

Speaker 4 And I had her until I was like a junior in high school and she got sold in a little box of trinkets at a garage sale and I didn't didn't know.

Speaker 4 And yeah, no, devastating. Yeah.
Devastating. And then the iPhone came out shortly after that.

Speaker 4 And then they had the app, you know, like the Magic Deball app, but I didn't have any service ever or like data. So like I would write in my notes app like

Speaker 4 things to ask like my digital Lucy, you know, there was a Starbucks across the street from our high school. So I'd go and connect to the Wi-Fi and ask her questions when I needed to.

Speaker 4 But I stopped doing that because I didn't have time to do that most of the time. And so I kind of learned how to make those decisions for myself.

Speaker 4 And Lucy genuinely like taught me how to be brave.

Speaker 4 That sounds really silly, but like I learned that I could do things scared because this little magic ape ball told me to, not because I felt like I could.

Speaker 4 I'm obsessed with that accidentally breaking and keep saying like yes to things. Yeah.
I have to keep doing things. You're like, son of a bitch, fine.

Speaker 4 You just become better. That's awful.
Because if it was up to me, I would have missed out on so much. And like,

Speaker 4 yeah, I would have just said no out of fear. And I've tried really hard in my life to not make decisions out of fear.

Speaker 4 And it was really cool that this little plastic magic eight ball

Speaker 4 helped me do that. Yeah.
So we're going to slow things down and get cozy. We're going to talk about your book.
You're an author. I mean, you're a best, you're a New York Times best-selling author.

Speaker 4 Holy smokes.

Speaker 4 So welcome to our book, Nook. Thank you.
Let's discuss Adriana Take It Away. We're all big readers here.
I think most of us, we read a lot of romance, a lot of fantasy, things like that. All that too.

Speaker 4 Oh, my God. We can talk for hours.
We can talk for hours. I really want to.

Speaker 4 i love this i know well so i read your book and as i was talking about when you were initially like drafting and beginning when did you make the decision to incorporate your drawings and the use of font text the story his and hers um in that uh is from the perspective of a shirt and um

Speaker 4 I had gone to New York. I was in a hotel room for a week and I was trying to write this book and finish the manuscript.
And I was like, you know, it will help being in New York for a week, I guess.

Speaker 4 Four Four days in, I hadn't written anything new. And I was like, why did I go to the coolest place in the world? Because all I want to do is like walk around outside and not write.

Speaker 4 And so I was sitting on the ground and there was this closet across from me that had like slatted doors so you could kind of see through it. And my, one of my coats was hanging in it.

Speaker 4 And I just thought, man, this jacket probably is so disappointed in me that like I came all this way. I packed it.
I brought it. I hung it up.

Speaker 4 And like, I'm not even doing the thing I came to do, which I personify objects all the time. It's, I feel very strongly about inanimate objects.
I'm not sure why. And

Speaker 4 so I wrote something separate, but I wrote this, like, started writing a story of like, I bet this jacket's from the perspective of the jacket, like how it feels about me not writing.

Speaker 4 And then I was like, oh my God. I remembered an important jacket, flannels that someone had given me in my life.
And I was like, I'm going to write that story from the flannels perspective.

Speaker 4 And then I got to a part in that

Speaker 4 story where it said, she looked more happy. She looked more sad.

Speaker 4 She looked sad, way more sad than happy. And

Speaker 4 I was going to make a little diagram of like a pie chart that was like 75% sad, 25% happy. And I did in my journal when I was writing it.
And I was like, oh my God,

Speaker 4 like this book isn't going to be straightforward narrative stories. Like it's going to have poems in it.
And I'm going to put a little, I'm going to put a little doodle.

Speaker 4 So in the original manuscript, I had a little pie chart that was simple and didn't need to be there, but it was like funny that the author would be like, here you go.

Speaker 4 Also, a visual representation of more sad than happy. And then

Speaker 4 it kind of snowballed from there. Like, I wanted the reader to hear it the way I felt it and like see it the way I felt it.

Speaker 4 It's like two pages of, oh my God, written increasingly getting larger or like justifying text to the right or to the center or to the left, depending on where in my head that. voice is happening.

Speaker 4 Like, is it dialogue? Am I thinking it? Am I, is it like, you have inner thoughts, but then like the inner, inner thought, like, is it all the way to the, is it smashed to the right and super small?

Speaker 4 Um,

Speaker 4 I, I just wanted it to feel like these are the thoughts that are physically happening in my brain, and you're reading it and it feeling that as well. But it's exactly the way I want it.

Speaker 4 Like, the paper weight in the book feels exactly the way I want it to feel.

Speaker 4 I drew the end pages, every single thing of that book I have created. Can I show you the

Speaker 4 pass that over? Yeah, get up, girl. No, no, no.

Speaker 4 Like, um,

Speaker 4 they're even so

Speaker 4 nice. See, you did look down the barrel.
Look down the barrel. Yeah.
That's very nice.

Speaker 4 I love

Speaker 4 gorgeous.

Speaker 4 So these are

Speaker 4 these are

Speaker 4 little Easter eggs, like the second half of the book. These are items from the stories in the second half.
Oh. And then from the first half of the book.
This is my desk at work.

Speaker 4 There's a, oh my god, the illustration of a flush light is probably my favorite. I love that.
Great.

Speaker 4 Yeah, like just everything about this was

Speaker 4 from my brain and it was really, really important to me that it looked exactly like that. And I think that I had that vision when I sold it.
And I fought really hard.

Speaker 4 I like to the point where I was like crying in the

Speaker 4 pitching it because I knew how much work it was going to be, but it was so important to me.

Speaker 4 And so partnering with a bunch of people that were like, I don't get it, but I get it. Like, you know, I'll do it and make it happen.
Yeah. It was really cool.

Speaker 4 I'm an audiobook girly and I love a good one. And even before I opened it, I was like, she better be reading this.
Of course. This better be her voice.
She's known for storytelling.

Speaker 4 And then it was her. And I was like, thank God.
I sound designed it too. You do? Yes.
That's the thing. And then I heard like a door creaking.
I was like, it's a full production. Yep.

Speaker 4 We are in business, baby. So I did exciting.
I did that the week before my hysterectomy. I literally like was like, and then also after a little bit.
And I just. went full out.
It was so fun.

Speaker 4 I loved that process so much because

Speaker 4 the podcast I had for a bit, funny because it's true, I would open that with like a three to five minute story that was completely sound designed. And I really loved that.
It felt like

Speaker 4 NPR kind of like this American life with the different acts.

Speaker 4 And I wanted it to feel like that in the audiobook because you're missing so much when you aren't getting to see the visuals of it that I wanted you to get that same experience.

Speaker 4 So the sounds really, to me, felt like it filled it out a lot. Since I've only read it,

Speaker 4 I think it would be like a very different experience to listen to. Yeah, yeah.
Do you got to do both?

Speaker 4 Oh, do they have to do both? Of course.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah. You're to hear first.
It's just, it's fun. They're honestly two completely different experiences.

Speaker 4 I think that I'm so interested to see what people receive from the book that have only heard it.

Speaker 4 And I'd be curious to ask them questions about the stories. Like, what did you get from that? Because I wonder if they sound the same or they read the same.
You know what I mean? They feel the same.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah. We'll get on it.
We'll do some field research.

Speaker 4 It's on the ground right here. Thank you.
Thank you. What was it like finding out you are a New York Times best-selling author? Oh my God.
This happened in the past couple days. Yes.
What was it like?

Speaker 4 So I definitely wasn't expecting that call. I had a call with the moderator from St.
Louis and there wasn't another

Speaker 4 meeting on the schedule. And we're wrapping up and my manager, Linnea, just shoves a computer in my face.
And I was thinking, this was a Wednesday.

Speaker 4 And I knew that you had to wait till Thursdays and also like a week later. So in my mind, this was not something that was going to be happening if I found out until a week and a day later.

Speaker 4 And so they give me the laptop and there's a bunch of people. And immediately my first thought is, I'm in trouble.
Like I've done something wrong.

Speaker 4 So I started immediately running through like, what did I say on stage like last night? Damn. No, I was really scared.

Speaker 4 That couldn't be good news. I have to be in trouble.
That's where my mind goes. And

Speaker 4 we're, and my editor just goes, I'd like to tell you that you're a New York Times bestseller. And I just tell her to shut the fuck up.

Speaker 4 I'm like, you're lying. And then I said, I was like, you're making fun of me.
Like, that's like, I could not receive it. Like, I just didn't understand.
And I just kept saying, what do you mean?

Speaker 4 And everyone did the Jennifer Lawrence like meme from Hot Pop War. I was like, what do you mean? What do you mean? What do you mean?

Speaker 4 And I don't know why that was like, I couldn't stop saying, what do you mean? Cause I just didn't understand what she was saying. And finally, it sunk in.

Speaker 4 And I was like, can anyone take this away from me? Because it, that was, I'm like, wow, we have some work to do. Like, Elise, we've got, we need more therapy, I think.
We need more.

Speaker 4 And yeah, it just felt like this entire dream I've had since I was little.

Speaker 4 How is it happening right now? Like it, I felt so many things. And I was also deliriously tired.
And I couldn't stop crying because I was so tired. And I was like crying because I was crying.

Speaker 4 And I was like laughing. I just looked really like it was a lot.
It was a lot.

Speaker 4 And then I got to call Jonas right after and tell him. And he was, yeah, it was just a really, really, really special moment.
And it still feels anytime someone says it, I'm like, say it again. What?

Speaker 4 Sorry? Yeah. They say, what what was that? A little louder.
What was that? Yeah. People make like friendship bracelets at my tours and they give them to me.

Speaker 4 And a lot of them have said, like, New York Times bestseller.

Speaker 4 I'm like, I'm keeping this forever.

Speaker 4 And it debuted at number four. Yeah.
So does that happen before the New York Times bestseller announcement or is that kind of come hand in hand? They're the same time. So it was number four for

Speaker 4 all non-fiction. Which is insane.
It's a debut at number four. I just want to say that too.
And then I was number six on all

Speaker 4 print and e-book. So for, yeah.

Speaker 4 And yeah.

Speaker 4 The e-book was really important to me too, because

Speaker 4 normally like when you release a book for an e-reader, you're not going to get format. You're going to get like the words, and that's pretty much it.

Speaker 4 And it's hard because you have to make it infinitely scalable. So for like accessibility, the text has to be a size, like, you know, made it larger or smaller.

Speaker 4 And I knew that so much of my art is art. So it's like a scan of something.
So you can't, with the journal entries, like you can't change the size of that.

Speaker 4 So I made my own font of my own handwriting for e-readers so that you could scale it and make it any size you wanted and you would still be getting my handwriting and it would feel like a um it would feel like a journal entry so like even those things like i went through the e-book before my hysterectomy and i i gave notes on every single page and when i put it in dark mode what does it look like i don't want you to you know if you're on a plane reading it i don't want you to have a bad experience with this book and um It was like, I mean, when I say I had, I was so intentional with like every single thing about this book I was.

Speaker 4 It was such a labor of love for the last two years. And so for it to be received this well is like, man, it made every one of those like really late nights so worth it.

Speaker 4 And every time I had to leave my kids to go to New York to like do things for the book, it was like, I'm so grateful that it is received the way I wanted it to be at school.

Speaker 4 Well, you should be very proud of yourself. Like that is a word.
Congratulations. Thank you so much.
Congratulations. So everyone, make sure you go and read.
Bye, read, listen. Yes.
To the new book.

Speaker 4 That's a great question. I'd love to tell you.

Speaker 4 Obviously, you write, but do you read? What are you reading? Oh, my gosh. I read so much.
I love it.

Speaker 4 I am reading,

Speaker 4 I just read B.K. Borison's first time call, or no, now back to you again.

Speaker 4 And also her Good Spirits.

Speaker 4 Did you guys, do you like B.K. Borison? I read the Christmas book.
Yeah, The Good Spirits.

Speaker 4 No, the other one, Lovelight Farm. Oh, oh, my God.
Yeah, the whole, oh, my God. I did that.
That's my favorite, like, series. It was cute.
Number four is my absolute favorite.

Speaker 4 I have to lock in on the others. I think I only read number one.
Oh, my God. It gets so much better.
Oh, my God. There's three more.
Good thing Christmas is coming. You have to read all of them.

Speaker 4 What do you guys like with reading?

Speaker 4 I'm still reading Babel. Brittany Broski was on the podcast and was talking about it.
So I was like, oh, okay, I'll read it. I'll read it.
It's a 24-hour audiobook. Oh, and it's talking about like...

Speaker 4 Fantasy? It is fantasy, but it's all about like translation. And like, there's a lot of like British colonialism.
Like, it's a hefty book. Like the Tower of Babel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, essentially.

Speaker 4 And so. I'm having a fun time with it, but it is a lot to chew on.
Stony? I'm listening to Housemaid right now because because the movie's coming out. The hand.
Wait, Housemade is a thriller.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Freedom McConnell.

Speaker 4 I've already read it. Yeah.
Yeah. Where are you at it? I'm middle of it.

Speaker 4 Which I'm like, you're going to continue to work for this lady? Strapping. I understand.
Yeah. Strappin'.
Kookie stuff. Kookie.

Speaker 4 So that's good because the movie's also coming out. But then I saw who they were casted.
Amanda Sayfried as Nina. Oh my gosh.
Which I'm like, she might be too hot to play that character.

Speaker 4 I feel like though they'll,

Speaker 4 I think that they can doctor it up as

Speaker 4 and Sydney Sweeney as the and there's Millie there's a follow there's there's like book two and three of it as well I'm not for duh I'm not gonna say anything because you I won't spoil it but okay wow I'm excited you and I can talk I finished it okay great

Speaker 4 I'm like

Speaker 4 you see you pick yourself a lot picking up what you're lifting

Speaker 4 smelling what I'm stepping in all right

Speaker 4 okay

Speaker 4 thank you so much for coming over to our house. You can find Amelise's book.
That's a great question. I'd love to tell you in stores and online now.

Speaker 4 And you can follow her at Elise Myers on TikTok and at Elise underscore Myers on Instagram. Yes.
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