Jordan Chiles: Dancing with the Stars, Sports Psych & Swarovski Dunks

1h 4m
Our fourth Maher sister today is Jordan Chiles, and she's a certified history-maker. She’s a two-time Olympian who helped bring home gold for Team USA in Paris, plus she has so many NCAA titles and perfect 10s at UCLA we’ve lost count. She’s currently trading the balance beam for the ballroom on our beloved Dancing with the Stars, but she also a New York Times bestselling author, a TIME 2025 Woman of the Year, and a baddie breaking down barriers in mental health and body peace.

We dive deep into the sacrifices she's made to be an Olympian, how her parents raised her, and how she learned to put herself first. We also get into her favorite affirmations, the best and worst food in the Olympic village, and the hardest part of writing a memoir.

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Speaker 3 Do I think you walked off maybe maybe a little abruptly, Jordan? Yes, I do.

Speaker 3 You walked off like, even, I think I was like, oh, but to me, it was like, oh, that's an athlete who was told to do something. So she's doing it.
So she's dangerous.

Speaker 2 You guys want to know what actually, like, what on the other side? Because obviously it's on TV. You don't see what actually happens.
There was a person standing there going,

Speaker 3 like, go.

Speaker 2 And I'm over here, like, do I go now? Is Julie?

Speaker 2 Like, is she going to say it now? So, yes, obviously, my face was very much like.

Speaker 3 she was out of there.

Speaker 3 Welcome back to House of Marr, a wave original. Kick your shoes off and help yourself to whatever's in the fridge.
We have a few house rules. Girls are magic.
Reading is hot. And so are you.

Speaker 3 I'm the middle sister, Alona Marr. I am the eldest, Olivia Marr.
And I'm the baby, Adriana Maher.

Speaker 3 Subscribe to us on YouTube so that you can see the grandeur of this set and not just listen to our beautiful voices. Our fourth Marr sister today is a certified history maker.

Speaker 3 She's a two-timed Olympian who helped bring home Team USA Golden Paris and has so many NCAA titles and perfect tens at UCLA. We've lost count.

Speaker 3 She's currently trading the balance beam for the ballroom on my beloved Dance with the Stars. She's a New York Times best-selling author.
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 A time 2025 woman of the year and a baddie breaking down barriers in mental health and body peace. Give it up for the culture changer herself, Jordan Childs.

Speaker 3 Hello, everybody.

Speaker 3 That's amazing. Thank you.

Speaker 3 Sometimes I have trouble reading, I guess. But you've done so much.
Thank you. Did you forget anything? Did I forget anything? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Tell us everything, please. Yeah, start with Tom.

Speaker 3 What else have you? What other accomplishments? Because you've got so many.

Speaker 2 I'm an SI swimsuit cover girl.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you are. Yes, you are.

Speaker 2 I'm a 16-time all-american 16 time my god i know and it's still going we it's still running oh my gosh um i am a world champion yep i'm the youngest of five so you're the youngest the youngest babies

Speaker 2 and i'm named after michael jordan really yeah are your sisters named after other people as well so my oldest sister is named after michael jordan's daughter okay and then my the middle girl jade her middle name is named after whitney houston oh my gosh what about your brothers no No, just Tajman and Tyler.

Speaker 3 Just vibes. Jealous vibes.
Just vibes.

Speaker 2 Just vibes. Yeah.
But our family is the boys have T's and the girls have J's.

Speaker 3 Okay, Larry, cool.

Speaker 2 It's very unique and different.

Speaker 3 I like that. I like it.
Our parents just said vowels. Vowels.
Vowels for all of us. Ending in A's and vowels.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. Good point.
Ending in A's.

Speaker 3 Thank you. You have been a busy, busy person right now.
I know as well. So I'm so thankful that you're here right now because your schedule is crazy being on Dance with the Stars.

Speaker 3 Like, how has it been? Are you okay?

Speaker 3 Give me a wink or anything if you need help.

Speaker 3 And she dated. And she does need help.

Speaker 2 No, it's actually been a whirlwind. I think honestly, after Paris and, you know, having that full,

Speaker 2 we were at fashion week and then died down. I was in season and now I'm like literally racking everything back up.
But with Dancing with the Stars, I feel like that's a new outlet.

Speaker 2 I've been able to really just express myself differently throughout my dances. It's crazy that we're in week six now.

Speaker 2 Like it's been crazy just to look back on how much I've accomplished within my career, whether it's been magazine covers, whether it's been, you know, me doing something out of the norm, like being on a dancing reality TV show, never thought in a million years I would be on this show.

Speaker 2 It was a dream of mine ever since I was little. So it's just crazy, but I love it.
I love being able to keep moving.

Speaker 2 I think that's what, you know, life is supposed to be about is you accomplishing things that you never thought truly. So I've been having fun, but can I tell you? Tell us.
It's been crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Literally, I think one of my days was I had a shoot in the morning and then I had practice and then I had rehearsals and then I had an interview.

Speaker 2 It's like everything is coming together so crazy, but I'm just like, you know what? What's sleep?

Speaker 3 What's up? Because you've classes.

Speaker 2 Yep. Gymnastics.

Speaker 3 Yep. And dancing with stars.
Classes as well. Yep.
Uh-uh. Not okay.

Speaker 3 I had nothing besides dancing with stars. And I was like, I, whoo,

Speaker 3 I gas, but you're you're training. Yes.
You're taking class at

Speaker 3 there's like homework. Like you're in there.
Yeah, I'm in there. Like somewhere.

Speaker 2 I'm very much in there. Luckily, this quarter, because we have quarter systems at UCLA.
So this is our

Speaker 2 fall quarter. And I'm doing all my classes online.
I was like,

Speaker 2 this girly pop is going to need to really like keep her sanity because if I actually was going in person, I don't think I would make it to rehearsals.

Speaker 2 I think I would have to look at Ezra and be like, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 I don't think I can go today. But it's been cool to be able to, you know, I think the college life is what's making it even better.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Because I get the support from my team and they were able to go watch and, you know, being able to walk on campus and people are like, hey, I'm voting for you. And I'm like, oh, period.

Speaker 2 Text Jordan to 21523.

Speaker 3 10 times. 10 times.

Speaker 2 10 times, exactly, on any device. You know, you can do it multiple times.
But it's really cool just to have those, you know, reassurances.

Speaker 2 Like, looking back as a little kid, you never know what life can really give you. I always, you know, was told, you know, dream big.

Speaker 2 I feel like a lot of parents tell you that, like, dream big, do what you want to do. But I always never had imaginary friends.
I had imaginary dreams. Okay.

Speaker 2 And so when those dreams come true and become reality, it's just like, wow, what's life? Like, what is it?

Speaker 3 It doesn't feel real sometimes. No, not once.
And you said that Dancing with the Stars is a dream. Did you watch with your siblings growing up?

Speaker 3 Like we watched it growing up and we would make dances in our living room just like sisters, haha, giggly, girly pop times. And then like watching my sister on it, I was like, what the heck?

Speaker 3 We dreamed of this watching it growing up. Did you guys do that?

Speaker 2 Yes, man. It was, so basically it was like my uncle's show.

Speaker 2 He, when it first came out, he was like, oh my gosh, like, I really love Dancing with the Stars. He would watch, you know, other dancing shows as well.

Speaker 2 And then my sisters came and they, you know, they would watch it with us. And my uncle, biggest thing, he said, you're going to be on Dancing with the Stars one day.

Speaker 2 and i was like no you're lying dude like you told me i was gonna be an olympian like you're lying about dancing with the stars so being on it i think it's also really cool to see how like yes my sisters saw the involvement of how much i love the show and now being on it just like you guys is like this is crazy like

Speaker 2 you're actually in a ballroom learning ballroom dances like i never like yes i could dance i can groove but ballroom dances are a totally different mindset yeah we got to go talk to your uncle what else does he know?

Speaker 3 Yeah, what else was he?

Speaker 3 What does he know?

Speaker 3 He got Olympian. He had the dancing stars.
He knows some stuff.

Speaker 2 He said that he sees me at 28.

Speaker 3 So I don't know.

Speaker 2 Exactly. Crazy.

Speaker 2 There's a lot of things that I'm just like.

Speaker 3 You can make a career off this. Right.

Speaker 2 I think so. I think so.

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Speaker 3 What I'd love to talk to you about is when I was on Dance with the Stars, I had very positive feedback and everything because I think my dancers were like, oh, she's trying so hard.

Speaker 3 Because I wasn't really.

Speaker 2 Julie, you were out there dancing. I am like,

Speaker 2 don't get it to a sit.

Speaker 3 I improve you. I improved.
I think Ezra came out with a video about like, you know, some negative comments. How have you been dealing with that?

Speaker 2 They're negative comments.

Speaker 2 I feel like, you know, at the end of the day, I'm the one who's on the ballroom floor. Right.
And I'm the one who has to go through a lot of different things.

Speaker 2 As an athlete, I feel like we grow a mindset to where it's like, you know what? We're going to actually take those negative comments and prove you wrong. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And we're going to use it as fire, you know? So I just really, you know,

Speaker 2 my life is my life.

Speaker 2 Sorry that, you know, there was a situation that was happening. They were announcing the pros right after.

Speaker 2 Like, I can't control what production is doing.

Speaker 2 Like, I can't do anything about it.

Speaker 2 And also, you know, me and Ezra have such a great and amazing connection that the banter that we had literally at the end for when we got saved, that was out of jokes. Like we laughed to each other.

Speaker 2 We do all these things. So, you know, all those things that were happening yesterday get to me 100%.
That's why I posted what I posted.

Speaker 2 That's why you probably saw it for 0.2 seconds, and then it was gone. Because I know how strong I am as a person.

Speaker 2 And I was like, you know what?

Speaker 2 I'm just going to sit here and keep doing Dancing with the Stars because I'm on the best show in the whole United States of America. True.
And you get to watch me. True.

Speaker 3 And you're mad that you're not dancing on the best show in the national. Oh, I'm nation.
Absolutely. And I, it's just so funny.
They, they just overthink everything.

Speaker 3 Do I think you walked off maybe a little abruptly, Jordan? Yes, I do.

Speaker 3 You walked off a lot. Even, I think I was like, oh, but to me, it was like, oh, that's an athlete who was told to do something.
So she's doing it. So she's getting

Speaker 3 a lot of people.

Speaker 2 You guys want to know what actually, like, what on the other side? Because obviously it's on TV. You don't see what actually happens there was a person standing there going

Speaker 3 like go

Speaker 2 go and I'm over here like do I go now is is Julian right is she gonna say it now so yes obviously my face was very much like

Speaker 2 she was out of there and for me it was the way you just disappeared between all their bodies I was like where did she go the original plan was I was supposed to switch with Mandy more that was the original plan but she stayed on the side and then I was like well I'm just gonna go hide and then people started thinking I was throwing up up and all these things and I was like no

Speaker 3 you just look at the context they're talking about the pros going

Speaker 3 and because I've been on it I knew exactly what was happening they were like oh why did Jordan leave I was like no see it's all the pro dancers they told her to get out because they have like you know 10 seconds to do the bumper exactly and that was just it remember one time um there was a video of that people posted I had my hand here and Alan like accidentally put his hand on my hand and then I just not think I just pulled my hand out because I was like, I'm not holding hands with the guy.

Speaker 3 So then I just put it out. The whole internet was like, Oh my god, they hate each other.
Oh no, they hate each other. I even noticed it from the dance before the way they were connected.

Speaker 3 I was like, What? They must hate each other. What did we do? Like, just the littlest things these people

Speaker 3 grab on to and zooming in on that too. Like, what are we doing? Oh, they're so funny.
I was like,

Speaker 3 moving my hand, but I will say, even you were great week one, like improving constantly. Constantly, yeah.
Oh, my gosh, you're the dance with your dad. Oh,

Speaker 2 this Alona all night, she was kind of like, oh, I don't know if I'll get emotional, but as soon as they announced like you be with your dad she's like yeah okay this one i got me and he was so ready to do it with that pink suit on oh it's girl dad did a great job too thank you he honestly was that whole week like even leading up to it he was somebody that i was like you know what like you're funny but you also know like what like that's where i get it from like i'm like oh that makes a lot more sense like every step everything that he was doing he was understanding what ezra's trying to say and ezro did take a risk, just like the judge said, like taking a risk of having my dad in the full dance.

Speaker 2 Like, that was something I felt like a lot of people needed to see. The connection, the love.

Speaker 2 And I'm happy it got a lot of, you know, tears from it because, you know, sometimes people don't understand what it's like. to have that connection with somebody.

Speaker 2 And I was hoping that was what they were going to take out of it. And I guess my dad said that some person came up to him and he was just like,

Speaker 2 wow, like, thank you. You know,

Speaker 2 she was like, I literally called my dad after you guys went.

Speaker 2 I was like, that's what it was supposed to be about, you know? So I'm just happy he was there. He's such an amazing person.

Speaker 2 And if anybody, like, a lot of people are asking, does he have dance experience? Yes, he did when he was younger. No.
He was part of fame and cabaret and all of that.

Speaker 2 So he was really like tuned in to what, like, he knows how to perform.

Speaker 3 Yeah, because it was like, he's a really good dance. Yeah, like,

Speaker 2 he knows how to perform. So I was just happy that he was able to, you know, experience what I get to experience every week, but and like do it together.

Speaker 3 That's so special to be able to show someone, like, this is what a week of rehearsals look like and the show days.

Speaker 3 Like, because Olivia watched Shalona do it all, and I was, I live somewhere else, but your experience is so unique to that of like how much it takes a toll on you. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Have the sisters been like, oh, wow, wish I could have danced with you. Oh, I do your hair and makeup, but I guess I'll get no.

Speaker 3 Actually,

Speaker 2 neither one of them said anything.

Speaker 3 Okay, really? Because they would,

Speaker 3 if I'd done that, they'd be like, oh, well, that's cool. We would have been funny about it, but like, we would have had to do it.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 2 Like, neither one of them said anything. I think they were too, like,

Speaker 2 we're all daddy's girls, and we also are really connected with our mom, too. Like, I think one of the middle sisters is a little more a mom's girl than a dad's girl because she's very similar.

Speaker 2 She's in, you know, into that interior designing, the, you know, creating things. Her mindset is just like my mom's.
So me and my older sister, we have like that daddy-daughter, like, love.

Speaker 2 And so they were all just sitting there, tears. They were like, we're just so proud of dad.
I was like, you're not proud of me.

Speaker 3 Hello.

Speaker 3 No, he did hurt you. He did kill them.
So I was like, okay.

Speaker 2 But no, they, they haven't said anything about it. And I'm just like, okay, like, I, that, that means a lot because I know it can get as siblings, you can feel some type of way with anything.

Speaker 2 You know, I had to deal with that when I was younger. My siblings were, you know, obviously had to really cater to my schedule as being an athlete.

Speaker 2 So I didn't know how this was going to to go, but they were really excited. So, yeah.

Speaker 3 But now they're your team.

Speaker 3 Like, we got to meet your old family at in Miami for SI, and your sister does your hair and makeup, and they come with you, and they're kind of like around you, which is kind of, you know, what my sisters do.

Speaker 3 And I think it's just so funny, both three girls who like what we do and help each other in that way. Like, wanting our sisters wanting us to succeed so much.

Speaker 2 But then you wanting to help them. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Professional sisters.

Speaker 2 That's what we call ourselves. Oh, I love that.

Speaker 3 I want to tell them that. Yeah, tell them that.

Speaker 2 I'm like, like, guess what I learned today? You guys are professional sisters. Professional sisters.

Speaker 3 Professional sisters. We took one hell of a photo in Miami.
The six of us. We all lined up like with oldest, middle, youngest.
And so we'll have to put the photo in. It was all like real tall girls.

Speaker 3 Because you were both similar heights. You're all similar heights as well.
It's an iconic fact. I love that.

Speaker 2 I love that photo. When we all saw each other and it was just like, oh, so like, who's the oldest?

Speaker 2 Who's the youngest? And we all just stood there like proud. We were like one big happy family.

Speaker 3 And I thank you so much.

Speaker 3 Your dad talked in his thing how he noticed as a kid you just had a lot of energy and so he puts you in gymnastics. Did he put your sisters into gymnastics?

Speaker 2 So my older sister did start with gymnastics, but she kind of gravitated to doing basketball and, you know, track and field.

Speaker 2 And then I was the only other one that they were like, you know, maybe this is actually a good sport for her to do.

Speaker 2 But, you know, I feel like as any kid who's out there, you know, they always are going to end up flipping some way, shape, or form, whether it's on their bed, whether you know it's just whether or not that connection of the love to the sport comes into play and for my older sister it just was she did she's like i wish i wish i could have done it longer but you know she gravitated to other sports and then now she does hair and makeup so

Speaker 3 And that really worked out for you. Yeah, it really does.
You look amazing wherever you go.

Speaker 2 Thank you. Thank you.
I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 Is there a sister you turn to for like, if you're looking for brutal honesty, like, is there a sister you go to for that? Or do you guys all kind of bounce off of each other in a similar way?

Speaker 2 We kind of bounce off each other, but since my older sister is like my HMU and my middle child is, she's like my personal assistant.

Speaker 2 So I go to my older sister when things happen, like I'm like, dude, in your honest opinion, like, how do you feel about this? She will tell me, but that's just kind of also her personality as well.

Speaker 2 She's very just out there. She's like me.
We're not going to allow you to walk out with two different socks on. Like, I'm going to full on tell you, go back in the house.

Speaker 2 Revisit what you were trying to do and then come back out.

Speaker 3 Try again.

Speaker 2 Exactly. Like, try again.

Speaker 2 so that's just how our our love and our bond is in that way but i like i feel like when you have the opportunity to go to somebody that will give you an honest because you never know what your siblings are going to say you're going to be like well i think you should go ask mom or dad about like no because at the end of the day i'm going to have to come to you whenever god takes our parents like

Speaker 2 i'd rather have this connection now and that's what our our dad really taught us was he would it's crazy to say but he would put my siblings in the same room if they were arguing And he would be like, you're not coming out of here until you guys figure it out.

Speaker 3 Right. Whoa.

Speaker 2 So, because he knows, like, when it's time, who are you going to run to? You're not just going to run to yourself. You can't do that.

Speaker 2 You're going to run to your siblings because that's the closest thing to you. So, it's really cool to see how we've all,

Speaker 2 you know, developed a mindset of entrepreneurship and just construction of our lives.

Speaker 2 And to see that I get to have that opportunity with having my sisters in my life, it's really cool.

Speaker 3 I love it. I enjoy it.

Speaker 2 I just get to sit back.

Speaker 3 Feel about excluding your brothers, but like sisters are just my everything. So I'm always like, sorry.
No.

Speaker 2 My brothers are great too, though. And I think that's why it's so cool because they understand.
Like my brothers understand what it's like to, you know, be in that world of sisterhood.

Speaker 2 Like they get where we're coming from, but also my, the youngest boy, I'm closer to him. He's, you know, somebody that I grew up.
closer to because we're closer in age. And

Speaker 2 he basically was like my sister. If you think about it, he played Barbies with me, he, you know, did all these things.

Speaker 2 We, he was like, basically, like a third sister in my eyes, but also, like, I understood, like, you're my brother, you know, at any moment in time, you're not gonna let me fail.

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Speaker 3 Since it is October, Halloween's coming up very soon.

Speaker 3 Let's do some candies. Yes.
Reese's, peanut butter cups, of course. Sour patch kids, Kit Kats.

Speaker 2 Okay, my.

Speaker 2 I'm not really a chocolate person, so my goal is Sour Patch Kit Kat.

Speaker 3 That's my goal too. Keep going.

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Speaker 3 Completely flipped. I'm not a big candy person, but I'm a huge chocolate person.
She's a big chocolate. I love candy.
Okay.

Speaker 2 I get that. I just

Speaker 2 just chocolate it just for some reason, I don't know why, like more of a sugary thing.

Speaker 2 Like to me, like with chocolate, I just feel like it should be more sugary.

Speaker 3 Right, right. For me, like, something's not a dessert or a sweet if it's not chocolate.
really like my mind is like wired that way it's true

Speaker 3 interesting kit kats are boring to me so that would be bronze well i had i really liked the kit kat commercial when i was younger which one break me off a kit

Speaker 2 piece of that kit kat bar yeah it's a good one hell yeah i didn't remember that until you said it literally loved the commercial like any kit kat commercial that would come on i'd be like oh my gosh what's gonna happen this time because like does a kit kat really make that sound no no

Speaker 3 i always

Speaker 3 i always love the cereal commercials i always feel like cereal commercials popped off or Or like the tricks are for kids.

Speaker 2 Tricks, the lucky charms one, and Cocoa Puffs. And the

Speaker 3 Apple Jacks. That one was always really good.
Applejacks. Cool commercials.
It was a little freaky. Yeah, there was a weird character.
Or like, what else?

Speaker 3 They're always going to race the apple and the cinnamon. Oh, right.
Right.

Speaker 2 Because why does a cinnamon have arms and two eyes?

Speaker 3 Right, right, right. That just makes

Speaker 3 sense.

Speaker 2 Man, legs, like a cinnamon stick, like.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 But the apple, that's okay.

Speaker 2 Because, I mean, it just makes sense. Like an apple, but a cinnamon stick, he's this big.

Speaker 3 Right.

Speaker 3 Are you a candy person when you compete?

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I have to. So

Speaker 2 every, I don't know if you saw me post a picture.

Speaker 2 It was after we made it to NCAA's. It was regionals.
And I had a cotton candy. I asked my mom to go get me cotton candy because for some reason, I don't know why I just need something sugary.

Speaker 2 Like it just, even though I have a lot of energy, I'm just like, yeah, let's just go get candy or something.

Speaker 2 And I took a picture and I, and some, somebody had tweeted, did Jordan Childs just get, ask her mom for cotton candy? And so I posted a picture.

Speaker 2 I said, and even girl, or what I, I said something, even gymnasts can eat cotton candy on the floor or something like that.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's great energy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I, I'm a very sweet girl. Like,

Speaker 2 but when it comes to desserts, I'm not like, if you asked me to eat what dessert, I would tell you donuts.

Speaker 1 Really? Donuts are just, see, to me, that's that's breakfast.

Speaker 3 That's the end. That's a snack.
That's a snack for me. That's doughnuts.
Love them.

Speaker 2 Okay, powder.

Speaker 3 I'm a glazed girl. A basic glaze.

Speaker 3 Yep. I can eat

Speaker 3 a lot of those. A lot of those bad things.
But I'm like a purist. Just a glazed donut.
That's all I want. I love that.
It's like a maple frosted.

Speaker 3 Oh, I can mess with those, but I don't like filled donuts. No.
Okay.

Speaker 3 All right. Those cream-filled Boston ones.

Speaker 2 Okay, yeah, no, you lost me.

Speaker 3 That's a lot. No, I don't know if I like them.
I think I used to like them as a kid because there was so much extra sugar, but now I'm like, that's too much.

Speaker 3 Why are we freaking the donuts? We don't got to do that.

Speaker 3 Come on.

Speaker 3 Don't freak your donuts, guys. Seriously.

Speaker 3 All right. Give medals to the following styles of dance.
Salsa, jive, quick step.

Speaker 2 I would probably say salsa's bronze, jive, gold, quickstep, silver.

Speaker 3 Okay. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 I really liked the jive. It was fun.
My jive was fun. I mean,

Speaker 2 I jumped over Ezra's shoulders.

Speaker 3 I loved your jive too. I thought that was your second one, right? Week two.
You guys stepped it up. Thanks.
Oh, and then you're doing your little thing with the camera.

Speaker 3 I thought it was so great with your pants flying away. Great.

Speaker 2 Thank you. Thank you.
I had fun with it.

Speaker 3 I think similar. I might go gold quick step,

Speaker 3 silver jive, bronze salsa.

Speaker 3 Salsa, I like, but I also

Speaker 3 don't. And I think when I watch people see salsas, they're, they're very, they're hard to do well, I think, in many ways.
Because it's just the same steps over and over.

Speaker 3 And if you don't do it so well, so a lot of people haven't been having the best salsas

Speaker 3 on the show.

Speaker 2 It started with mine.

Speaker 3 Okay,

Speaker 3 I liked your lifts, but

Speaker 3 I'm mine. But even

Speaker 3 just some others, I'm like, ah, it's okay. It's just a tougher dance, but like quick step and jive, you can have fun with it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 Is it the salsa move that went viral on TikTok? No, Samba. No, Samba.
The whisk.

Speaker 11 Samba whisk. Yeah, the whisk.

Speaker 3 Are you doing a Samba? Bless you if you are.

Speaker 2 I don't know yet. Okay, be careful.

Speaker 3 I hear that one's hard.

Speaker 2 I don't know. I should ask Ezra that.

Speaker 2 He wants me to do it. He keeps saying it.
I'm like, okay.

Speaker 3 Is there something that you're really excited for?

Speaker 3 Oh,

Speaker 2 well, coming into the show, I was really excited to do the pasadoble. Yeah.
Yeah, because I feel like that would be really, really cool. But I don't know if I'll do it.
We'll see.

Speaker 2 I mean, there's different, obviously, like, there's still more weeks.

Speaker 3 Right, right, right. Keep voting.
Keep voting. Jordan to 2152310 times.
Ten times. Ten times.
Ten online.

Speaker 2 Anywhere.

Speaker 3 Everywhere. All right.
Let's give medals to the following reset rituals. Bed rotting, binge watching, and meditation.
Ooh.

Speaker 2 Okay, so I am a binge watcher, so I definitely have to say gold for binge watching.

Speaker 2 I would then say meditation, silver, and bed rotting, bronze.

Speaker 3 Nice.

Speaker 2 Even though sometimes I feel like you're bed rotting and binge watching at the beginning. It's usually.

Speaker 3 Are you a meditator before you go on like the beam? Like, are you.

Speaker 2 I pray a lot. okay I actually have a tattoo that when you put my hands together

Speaker 3 it says pray there it is nice yeah cool so like if you ever see me like before beam and I go like this that's just me praying and then I and we know because it says it now yeah we know that's the reason why I got it because I saw what's she doing what is that means like you're like

Speaker 2 take a peek take a picture okay nice yeah but other than that I'm more of a let's just go with the flow type person but I do love meditating, though.

Speaker 2 I think that's definitely a good way to calm everything and get your body back to where it needs to.

Speaker 3 Give medals to the following Olympic practices, Olympic village, Olympic food, and the opening ceremony.

Speaker 3 Did you do the opening ceremony? Sure didn't. I didn't either.
Oh, okay. You were going to say sucker for you.

Speaker 3 No, I didn't.

Speaker 3 So we had a whole discussion before, and they were like, Our coach was like, well, I don't want you to do the opening ceremonies because like, you know, we want to win a medal but if you guys want to do it you can do it but we're all like well

Speaker 3 obviously she doesn't want us to do it and if we don't win a medal she's gonna be like

Speaker 3 you know so we decided not to do it but it ended up being so great because it was so wet and rainy coco goff and lebron james have um what are they ponchos on they're on this boat shivering

Speaker 3 flag

Speaker 3 and the united states of america they're like and it's raining it's supposed to be a beautiful driver and they're like last because we're hosting next, right? They're like last in the lineup.

Speaker 2 We were last, I think.

Speaker 3 Brutal. Well, in Tokyo, did you do Tokyo's ceremony? No.

Speaker 2 So, fun fact. It's not really a fun fact, but so Tokyo, so our Olympic,

Speaker 2 actually, fun fact. We did our own Olympic ceremony

Speaker 2 outside of our hotel because we actually didn't stay in the village in Tokyo because of COVID and everything. But also, as gym, like gymnastics starts typically the day after opening ceremonies.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So, we, as like, the head coordinators suggest we don't, because normally Olympic, you know, ceremonies, you walk and you do, and then you got to be there four hours in advance.

Speaker 2 I did opening ceremony for Pan Ams.

Speaker 2 So, that was really cool, but that's why we typically don't do opening ceremonies unless one of us gets nominated. Because I believe Simone, she did.

Speaker 2 She did closing, and I think she opened one of the times.

Speaker 3 Did you do closing?

Speaker 2 No, I left. You didn't do closing.

Speaker 2 We had Good Morning America the next day.

Speaker 2 Like, the moment we're done, literally, after the last like floor final, typically we have a half day before we have to get on a plane to go, dude. Can't even celebrate, really?

Speaker 3 Celebrate in the city. They is that, and they just put you on there.

Speaker 3 You get after it. That's crazy.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, I mean, and also, like, if you think, how many of us in the United States of America are part of Team ESA? Yeah.

Speaker 2 How many sports do we have?

Speaker 3 Our

Speaker 2 housing really isn't green. Like, it's not that big.

Speaker 2 So, if we're, we're one of the first people that get there, so they like to keep the flow because you have check and field, then you have fencing, and then like goes on and on and on.

Speaker 2 And the more sports they keep adding, the more that we're not going to have room.

Speaker 3 Okay, I hear you. I did the closing ceremonies.

Speaker 2 Was it fun?

Speaker 3 Vodka and plastic water bottles.

Speaker 3 It was her birthday. It was my birthday.

Speaker 2 Oh, my gosh, happy belated.

Speaker 3 Thank you. Okay.

Speaker 3 Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 Last year's. Oh, my gosh.
Thank you.

Speaker 3 Yeah, right.

Speaker 3 No, you get to be with everybody, you're like all around.

Speaker 3 It was really cool. But then like we had one, we had a good performance by Esalt who did My Way.
And that one was like, I remember that being in that room.

Speaker 3 And that was what I did my dedication to last time on Diswith Stars was like, she's singing this song My Way. And I think you and I both, the way we're taking our careers, we're doing it our way.

Speaker 3 And I was like,

Speaker 3 I'm doing this my way.

Speaker 3 I just remember being there, the fireworks going. And that was like the one time I I really got to enjoy it because we didn't do the opening ceremonies.
I mean, it was cold, wet.

Speaker 3 When I did Tokyo, you stand around for hours. I mean, it's almost like five, six hours of standing, and you're being shuttled through, like, you know, like corralled to go.

Speaker 3 And then in Tokyo, there's no fans there. So you walk out and you're like, hey.

Speaker 3 Okay. And it's like, what's what was the point of it? So then afterwards, we're like, no, we're not going to do this opening ceremony.

Speaker 3 And thankfully we won a medal, but I just don't know if she'll ever let us again do it.

Speaker 3 But we'll see. So I think Olympic food also was not good this year oh yeah

Speaker 2 so that's definitely a bronze bronze olympic food village was fun though so that's why i gave it silver right because i feel like we actually had cool things we had a grocery store that i definitely ate hot dogs out of right them hot dogs and hambookas were

Speaker 3 really i don't know if i went to that yeah

Speaker 2 and we also you know the

Speaker 2 you can get your hair done you can get your nails done there's a salon yeah i'm pretty sure somebody said there was tattoos there or something like that I think there, I heard that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but I couldn't find it. The village is so big.

Speaker 3 Yeah, there's medical offices. I got my toe x-rayed.
Nice. Yeah.
Yeah. On the house.
What? On the house? They just did it. Yeah, you can get a lot done.

Speaker 3 You could get like a papshmir done, I think, if you wanted to. Yeah.
They got gynos in the building. I would get a t-shirt that said, I got my papshmir in the Olympic Village.

Speaker 3 Like, yeah, if I got to be cool.

Speaker 2 Well, if you think about it, we are there for a very long time.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's true. Very long time.

Speaker 3 The food was tough. I was eating a lot of, like, chicken and mustard.
And did you ever have one of those muffins? The guy was.

Speaker 2 Oh my God. Well, it's chocolate.
I don't like chocolate.

Speaker 3 Oh, you're right.

Speaker 2 But those did go viral.

Speaker 3 I thought they were kind of mid. And I'm sorry, Muffin Man.
I didn't think they were that good. I was like, what am I going crazy with this? But they were obsessed with them.

Speaker 2 I think I had more pizza hot dogs than

Speaker 3 you were in that store. That's sort of what's right there.
Okay.

Speaker 3 Heard. Right.
Right. All right.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 That's, I think, yeah, my list for that too. Opening ceremonies could be a gold if it was nice weather, but

Speaker 3 that's silver to me. You guys want, you guys to check out the village? Oh,

Speaker 3 that's now that's up.

Speaker 3 That's fucked up. I mean, we could have, but you know, you should have seen our dingy Airbnb where the door had um a tapestry over it because it was a huge hole in the door.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we had a good time in Paris.

Speaker 2 You know, this was actually really good. There was this Panda Express

Speaker 2 inside the village. It was like literally, you know, how we have to go through so much.

Speaker 3 Was it a Panda Express?

Speaker 2 No, that's the crazy crazy part.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 2 It was Panda Express inspired, obviously. Okay.

Speaker 2 But the food, I literally was like, their fried rice was out of this world. Right.
I had like sushi. Like, it was just like a combolation of different things.

Speaker 2 And I was like, this is crazy because the Panda Express back at home is just typical fried rice, orange chicken.

Speaker 3 whatever you want but this one I was like place is good and it literally was outside the village was that like when you kind of walked on a diagonal, and then there was the metro station there?

Speaker 3 Was it around those where there was a couple restaurants around and some scenery outside? Yes. I think I went there once because I was like, I can't eat any more of that food in there.

Speaker 2 That's why I did it. Oh, man.
I literally asked, I asked my coaches, I was like, so there's Hispanic Express.

Speaker 2 Is there any way we could get food from there? And they were like, yeah, we got you guys. We were like, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 I mean, fried rushes. So what I'm hearing is Olympic village food isn't even meddling.

Speaker 3 That time it wasn't, but Tokyo was great. Tokyo.
Yeah, exactly. Tokyo was amazing.
They had deep-fried camembert.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah. Did you ever get to experience it? No.
They had a ramen station. They had like a dose.
I need to go back. Oh, so I need to go back to.

Speaker 2 I need to go back and actually experience it without having COVID. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Because that's what was the sad. Like, yes, we did, like, you know.

Speaker 2 how we have our interviews and stuff where they have food and like do you have skit catered i did one thing one day after we lost, but other than that, no.

Speaker 2 So, we got like, basically, like, for Good Morning America, because they're there, we had sushi, and that was the main thing that we wanted to try.

Speaker 2 Was the sushi that was the first time I ever had sushi? Really?

Speaker 3 Did you like it?

Speaker 2 I loved it.

Speaker 3 Nobody has had it in Tokyo.

Speaker 2 Now, I eat sushi all the time.

Speaker 3 It is cool, though, if you can go to the Olympics and experience it all.

Speaker 2 Yeah, working on it. If you want to, you know, join.
Yeah,

Speaker 3 it is in the Olympics. It's in LA this time.
Yeah. Sharpshooting.
True. I mean, mean, you are.
Sharp shooting.

Speaker 2 Maybe you guys can just say you're.

Speaker 3 Get a muter pass. Maybe, yeah, maybe we're just her.
We're alone out. You can actually get.
No, I won't be doing that.

Speaker 3 Can I do. I'll give you my pass.
Right. We'll go for it.
Perfect. Maybe I do Winter Olympics and we do the one where you like ski and then you drop to the floor and start shooting things in the snow.

Speaker 3 Have you seen that? No way you could do that. I think I've not done that.
I've never heard of that.

Speaker 2 What if that's like that winter?

Speaker 3 The winter sports are crazy.

Speaker 2 Winter sports are diabolical.

Speaker 3 So the woman who flips in the air. Yeah.
Okay. That's winter sports are crazy.

Speaker 2 At least I'm on solid ground and not in snow.

Speaker 3 Right, right.

Speaker 3 But sometimes in the air.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 2 Okay, okay. You're right.
You're right. I got you.

Speaker 3 It's tea time, y'all. And this week we're serving up championship level tea with an absolute icon.
We want to know everything from the pre-Olympic rituals to the post-dance with the SARS cool down.

Speaker 3 Jordan, take us back. Your dad puts you in gymnastics.
Was there a point for me, there was a point when I was playing my first rugby game and I was like, oh, this is like, I got this. This is for me.

Speaker 3 Was there a point for you in gymnastics where you were like, okay, yeah, I got this?

Speaker 2 There was. And you're probably going to say, oh, how old were you? I was actually 12 years old.
I was old.

Speaker 2 I was old. And it was the very first time that I won a medal.
Obviously, yes, I was a little kid. I was winning medals, but it was like, oh, I get a reward out of this.
This is cool. Great.
Yes. Woo!

Speaker 2 And I was the youngest national team member. I was 11 years old, turning 12, and I had won a medal with Team Yose.
And I was like,

Speaker 2 wait a minute. This is cool.
Like, this is great. This is amazing.
Like, how far can I go?

Speaker 2 So I think being able to really look back on that day and say, you know, I'm happy you took the chance because at first, you know, I

Speaker 2 couldn't remember how many times I left a note on my kitchen counter for my parents before I went to school. Like, I don't want to do this anymore.

Speaker 2 I'm sorry. Like, I'm so sorry.
Your money. And like, I would go deep into it, but knowing that I had the opportunity to actually fulfill something, it's just like, well, thank you, parents.

Speaker 2 Thank you for putting me into a sport that actually was something good. Like, it wasn't something that I'm just like, oh yeah, my parents put me in this.
And it just came with me.

Speaker 2 But no, I actually got to enjoy it. And so 2008 Olympics, I was watching.
And I was like, you know what? I want to become an Olympian. Now, did I think it was going to be gymnastics? Not one bit.

Speaker 2 I barely had started gymnastics. I was seven.
Yeah. I had barely started gymnastics.
And I was just watching the Olympics. I was like, oh my gosh, this would be so cool.

Speaker 2 Like, look at them representing Team USA. Like, they're winning medals.
And so that's where my

Speaker 2 real, like, my realization of what are you going to do? Because I was also doing other sports too. I did track.
I played T-ball. I did, you know, ballet, hip-hop, all those things.

Speaker 2 So having that visualization of sitting there with my parents and them being proud of their,

Speaker 2 like those people on the TV, I was like,

Speaker 2 this is cool. Like maybe I can do that.
Maybe I can really put myself into that position. And so when, you know, I had made my first

Speaker 2 assignment as an elite athlete. And from there on, it was just like, bam, bam, bam, Jordan here, dude, dude, dude, doing this.
And I was just like, this is really cool. This is a cool opportunity.

Speaker 2 And I just had fun with it ever since then.

Speaker 3 Did it at times take your parents to be like, no, you're still doing this? No, you're going to practice?

Speaker 2 100%. There were times I would look at them and be like, well, there's this school dance.
Ah, sorry. I'm like, dude, like, what?

Speaker 2 But I think it's also like their mindset of how to like parents, this goes out to all the parents in general.

Speaker 2 If you're a parent out there who is like, I don't know if I'm being too hard or not hard enough on your child, if your child is telling you, Hey, mom and dad, I know I'm really good at this sport, but I don't know if I can go to that level you want me to go to.

Speaker 2 Listen to them because they may be right or they may be, you know, just need a little more encouragement because that's what my parents gave.

Speaker 2 Yes, they were sometimes hard, 100%, but that's like with any parent. They know how talented their kids are.
They know that they have gifts and they want the best for them.

Speaker 2 So they're going to push you to a limit. And so I'm just grateful that that's what my parents did and that they were, you know, sometimes, yes.

Speaker 2 Hard, but other times they were like, if you don't want to do that, that's okay. And I'm like, no, I'm good.
I'll just keep, you know, keep going.

Speaker 2 So I think having that balance was really good for me because now I can look back and be like, you remember that one time, mom?

Speaker 2 Like, you really got me there, but now, now look at me, like, you have an Olympian in your family, and it's, it's where the joy really comes from.

Speaker 3 And I think when I think of gymnastics, I think of probably one of the more tougher, stricter sports out there.

Speaker 3 How did you deal with that? And also, you've kept such a vibrant personality about you

Speaker 3 in what is a very challenging environment.

Speaker 2 Gymnastics is a very challenging environment. I feel like as

Speaker 2 I've gotten older, I've realized more things that in the past, I'm like, that actually happened.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 2 I'm like, whoa, what, like, how am I here?

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 having the opportunity to have the support system, I think that's kind of what helped me get out of that, that level and that mindset of being like, oh, this, this is how gymnastics is supposed to be.

Speaker 2 And it's like, no, it's not. You can make it how you want it to be.
You can create your story, your culture, whatever it may be in the way that you want it to.

Speaker 2 So looking back and really diving deep into my younger self, I'm happy that she went through what she went through. Now, was it good? No, not one bit.

Speaker 2 But I want to be able to sit here or do anything that I'm doing, speak about it, and help the younger generation understand, like, you're not, your roads aren't going to be straight.

Speaker 2 They're not going to be perfect. They're going to be very out of the ordinary.
You never know. You may take a left turn and all of a sudden it might curve real quick to the right.

Speaker 2 Like, you don't know those things. So the strictness has come down, I do have to say.

Speaker 2 In gymnastics, it was very. I've been through four different quads and I've competed in two.

Speaker 1 Can I get a definition on quads?

Speaker 2 So, quads are so each four, there's four years per Olympic Games. Yeah.
So I've been in four different quads if you think about it.

Speaker 3 So she's in this quad to prepare for LA. Do you call them quads? We don't call them quads, but it's just like different.

Speaker 2 Okay, but it's, it's, it's, everybody has something different. Yeah, um, so

Speaker 2 I like I've understood what it was like then and what it's like now. And I can say, like, people are understanding what it's like to be a gymnast now.
They understand that we're not always perfect.

Speaker 2 We're not always going to be able to be attentive at things, and we're not always going to be able to really dive deep into our 100% potential because we're trying to preserve ourselves as humans and mentally.

Speaker 2 So strictness,

Speaker 2 I've been there, but now I'm enjoying life.

Speaker 2 I get to really just like be myself and understand my career was something that people get to now read about, but also look into and, you know, be like, wow, I can kind of relate to that and feel more comfortable and confident.

Speaker 2 within themselves. I know I went really deep there, but

Speaker 3 thank you so much. I needed that.
My biggest touch point to gymnastics was the movie Stick It for most of my life.

Speaker 2 And that's another thing. That's another thing.
Like, people always go back to that. And it's like, that's not how it is.

Speaker 3 Exactly.

Speaker 2 We're not bullies to each other. We're not going to, you know, have you not date somebody? Like, that's not how we are.

Speaker 3 When you said you had to miss a dance, though, I was like,

Speaker 3 prom.

Speaker 3 Literally, prom.

Speaker 2 Like, prom, they were in a hole.

Speaker 2 It's a lot, but I think. That's why, like, where my creative mind is as like a person, I'm like, we need to make something that actually showcases gymnastics the real way.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 there are things. Now you may ask other, I typically, at the time, I was the only gymnast really who went to school.
They, a lot of them do online school. So I was able to go to my prom.

Speaker 2 I went to one dance each year. So I went to a homecoming and went to formal, my prom, and a tolo.
I don't know if you guys had to low, glow, low. It's like a non-formal dance.
Cool.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's really cool. And so I was able to do that because that was one thing I did tell my parents.

Speaker 2 I was like, I do not care if I have to be in the sport for the rest of my life, but I would like to have a normal kid life. Let me go to school.
Let me do all these things.

Speaker 2 And so they understood that, which was really cool as well. They were like, okay, you do you.
This is your career. This is your path.
Then we'll work with you.

Speaker 3 You're like, yes, I'm going to the dance. I literally, literally was so excited.

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Do you talk with like a sports psych in your sport?

Speaker 2 I used to.

Speaker 2 Before Tokyo, I went through a lot of change within my career. I dealt with somebody who verbally

Speaker 2 abused me and emotionally abused me. And it was a time and place that I was just like, I need to talk somebody.
I tried it when I was younger. Didn't really work because I had a short attention span.

Speaker 2 Like it was like, dude, why are you talking about something that I don't want to be talked to about?

Speaker 2 But then I was like, maybe this will actually help me get to my next level because i moved i did all these things and so they my mom was like do you want to try it again i was like i guess man i wish i would have listened when i was younger

Speaker 2 i wish i would have listened when i was younger because i feel like and i'm i always say this nobody is forcing you nobody is telling you you have to do this but Having a sports psychologist, I think, really changed my own perspective on my own life in general.

Speaker 2 Take the sport out of it, just my own life in general, and how, like, yes, people are going to try to control it, but you can also control what they're trying to control at the same time.

Speaker 2 So, I was just like, you know what?

Speaker 2 I wish I would have met you a long time ago, my love. Like, I wish I would have met you.
And so, yeah, I used to.

Speaker 2 Now, it's a little harder as, you know, me going back and forth, all these things, but UCLA does provide sports psychologists and, you know,

Speaker 2 literally everything in the world.

Speaker 3 Is there one technique that's really stuck with you?

Speaker 2 I do affirmations a lot.

Speaker 2 I'm an affirmation person.

Speaker 2 I'm the type of person that, if I do wake up on a bad day, I will tell you, like, hey, I did not wake up on the right side of the bed today. Right.

Speaker 2 And I will look at myself in the mirror and be like, yeah, we got to fix something.

Speaker 2 Like, I will talk to myself because I feel like that's when you have more of a self-talk, then talking to other people can kind of

Speaker 2 rejuvenate your mind a little better personally.

Speaker 2 But yeah, I'm an affirmation girly.

Speaker 2 It's fun. I used to do the sticky note thing too on my mirror.
It's a good one.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 When you'd say that, I am that girl. Oh,

Speaker 3 there you go. Good one.
And that's it. And that worked out.
That's how you got the book.

Speaker 3 I think that we kind of have had similar paths. Like,

Speaker 3 we didn't blow up. Like, in Tokyo, we kind of did something.
Yep. And then we worked for like three years.
And then in Paris, we really did something.

Speaker 3 And we were just talking about it with another guest, but it was like, our people are like, are you shocked by it? Are you just so? I'm like, no, I'm not really, no, I've been working. Exactly.

Speaker 2 I'm not shocked at all.

Speaker 3 And I think we're the same. We both have personalities too that, like, not that I just put in a lot of work.
I feel good about it. I like attention.
I like to be out there.

Speaker 3 And there's nothing wrong with it. There's some people who like it, some people who don't.
And I think our progression has been very similar.

Speaker 3 We're in different spaces, but it's so cool to see how we've risen.

Speaker 2 No, for sure. And I think that's why a lot of people don't like when things happen like that.
I've seen, like, I've,

Speaker 2 they're like, well, how come she couldn't do that four years ago? Well, maybe it wasn't my time.

Speaker 2 Maybe it wasn't, you know, and I think that's why sometimes I always say people misunderstand gymnasts.

Speaker 2 I'm not going to say athletes because every person can misunderstand an athlete, but gymnasts in particular, because they think like, oh, you're going to be perfect every second of the day.

Speaker 2 And it's like, no, that's not how it works. So yes, what happened, you know, eight years ago, six years ago, four years ago?

Speaker 3 How many years ago? When was that?

Speaker 2 Five years ago. There we go.
Well, technically four.

Speaker 3 Four.

Speaker 2 Four. Anyways, that Olympics happened.
And it's like, well, how come it, you know, that happened then? But then all of a sudden it's like, this whole different person is like, no, I'm the same person.

Speaker 2 I just may have figured out myself like in the mature way, understood my own sport a little more, understand everything like that. So it's cool to see like,

Speaker 2 Yes, I'm going to say, is it crazy? 100%.

Speaker 2 But is it out of the norm? No.

Speaker 3 you're allowed to grow. Exactly.
That's what we want for people.

Speaker 2 Exactly.

Speaker 3 You know, you're never going to be the same person you were, like, even a week ago.

Speaker 2 100%. You can't have that same expectation on you.
Exactly. And it's cool to see that.

Speaker 2 Like, I think that's why I love sports so much because you can have like a Steph Curry or a LeBron James or even a Michael Jordan.

Speaker 2 Michael Jordan left basketball for how many years to go play baseball, right? Just to come back and win another ring. Like,

Speaker 2 those are the things that people really enjoy to see. Like, as we feel, like,

Speaker 2 we feel the intentions and we feel the vibes from people who understand that okay well just know rugby's there for you if you want to take a break you want to do a michael jordan pivot to rugby

Speaker 3 i love this guy

Speaker 2 jordan i just don't i just don't know

Speaker 3 you think about it you think about it i'm this big you know and that's perfect and we need you well you you have a teammate that's five foot yeah i do four foot and the world stuck with her yeah

Speaker 3 maybe taller because she's so tiny she can get so low on people i break people's knees on accident. Yeah, perfect, exactly.
You guys got the fixer. Tell me what say rugby needs you.

Speaker 3 Do you say rugby? Do you have a favorite affirmation right now?

Speaker 2 Favorite affirmation besides I'm that girl?

Speaker 2 I'd probably say my own quote. Always believe in the power of your dreams.

Speaker 3 Off of I'm That Girl, let's quickly switch gears into our book nook. Yeah, I'm down.
And talk about I'm That Girl.

Speaker 2 You're an author. I am.

Speaker 3 Tell us everything. Like, did you enjoy that process? Was it...

Speaker 2 That process was really crazy. I definitely can say I didn't realize how much trauma was still on me when I had to re talk about the younger Jordan.

Speaker 2 And it was a, I liked the process though, because now I'm just like. Wow, like you went through all that.
Now look at you. Like you're living life.
Like that's so crazy.

Speaker 2 So it was a really cool process though. I really enjoyed having, you know, the opportunity to tell my story.
I think this is the most raw you'll ever hear me, like for real.

Speaker 2 Like, and I'm a very straightforward person.

Speaker 2 Like, I will tell you how I woke up, do all these things, but being able to put my life in a book and understand that people actually know what actually happened, it's just remarkable.

Speaker 2 I'm just, I'm proud of myself for be like able to relive that and put it into writing. Like, not a lot of people can do that.

Speaker 2 And so I'm just happy that now it's on, you know, bookshelves and all these things. And I get texts still to this day, DMs.

Speaker 2 Oh my gosh, I just read your book and I'm only in the first two chapters and I just don't know what to do. And I'm like, oh girl, it's okay.
Like, I know you're, you're crying. I, I, I was there.

Speaker 2 I had to, you know, talk about it.

Speaker 3 I did it. Exactly.

Speaker 2 So it's just a really cool opportunity. I love it.

Speaker 3 Is there an audiobook that you narrate? There is an audio book. Did you narrate it?

Speaker 2 I only narrated the beginning.

Speaker 3 Okay, cool, cool, cool.

Speaker 2 I didn't do the whole entire book because I was like, I feel like that's going to give too much emotion. I was like, I'd rather have somebody else do it.
Cool. Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's a very vulnerable thing. I mean, what you've done and like put it out there like that, which I think has been cool because

Speaker 3 especially being a gymnast, being in sports, this idea of an athlete being bop, bop, bop, you know, strict, shrick, strick, I think is to see that the one of the best in the world can feel this way

Speaker 3 is really it's it's a lot and it took a lot of bravery to do that thank you so much when's your book coming up uh i'm you know i'm actually writing it genuinely i've been writing it since 2022. Whoa.

Speaker 3 So I'm just going to kind of wait maybe until after LA and put it out then because it's been cathartic to like write these stories. And I like at first was, and you might have thought the same way.

Speaker 3 I was like, I don't have enough to say. I don't have enough to say.
And then I'm writing. And I'm like, and then this happened.

Speaker 3 Oh, and then I did this too, you know? And so I have so much to say. And I think that's so much that people can relate to.
So I would love to put it out after the next Olympics.

Speaker 3 And it was cool because for

Speaker 3 Paris, I was actually writing as I was getting ready for Paris. So it was almost like my diary and I wrote how I felt beforehand and this, the anxiety I was feeling.

Speaker 3 And then I got to write about the feeling when I won a medal. So it was, it's definitely cool.
So we'll see when it comes out. I get a little saucy in it as well.

Speaker 3 Of course. You know, talking about

Speaker 3 saucy stuff. I'm obsessed with the idea of somebody doing you wrong.
You're like, that's going in the book.

Speaker 3 Chapter 12. Chapter 12.

Speaker 3 Sometimes I write about that. Like a guy I'll write a little bit about.
And then he did this. I'm like,

Speaker 3 nice nice try, buddy. And then he did this, that motherfucker.
You were about to do like backstakes, backstakes, backsticks. No.

Speaker 3 Expose.

Speaker 3 I used to see him for a bit. Like, he's like, oh, because I'll tell people about my book.
And he's like, oh, yeah. I mean, what? Will I get a chapter? And I'm like, oh, my God, maybe.

Speaker 3 And then he does me wrong. And I'm like, you were barely mentioned.

Speaker 3 You were barely mentioned. And I gave you a fake name.

Speaker 2 So-and-so said that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 No one of importance said that's what I'm doing. I do.
I am going to be calling people out. No, but there are some people in my book.

Speaker 3 But But I've usually changed names, but there are some people you should watch out.

Speaker 3 Not that bad, honestly. It's not.

Speaker 2 I love it. I got a lot of people.
Everybody out there, keep your eyes

Speaker 3 together. Act right.
Yep. For real.
Act wrong, and you're in the book.

Speaker 3 You're in the book.

Speaker 3 We'll see. But that is so cool.

Speaker 3 Thank you. And you're just so smart.

Speaker 7 Thank you.

Speaker 3 College student writing books and dancing.

Speaker 3 Probably. You're taking classes.

Speaker 3 Flipping in the air. Looking really cool.
The coolest outfit. The coolest outfit I think we've ever had in this show, right now.
Thank you. Cool as nails as well.

Speaker 2 Oh, thanks, guys. I feel so honored.

Speaker 3 This is so cool. Next time, you gotta bring your sisters and we just pack it in.
No, no, no. We have two up there.

Speaker 3 Again, I can sit with each sister of the age.

Speaker 3 Well, before we wrap, quick rapid fire. Okay.

Speaker 2 Are you ready? Let me get prepared. Hold on.

Speaker 3 Who's your favorite artist right now?

Speaker 2 I can't. I can't.
You can.

Speaker 3 No, I can't. I can.
I can't.

Speaker 2 Next question. Next question.

Speaker 3 We're coming back to the point. Yeah, yeah.
TikTok rabbit hole of choice.

Speaker 2 Oh, those AI

Speaker 3 no, not the AI videos, Jordan. No!

Speaker 2 Listen, so there's these AI, so somehow these people made AI food babies, but they're eating their own food.

Speaker 3 Oh, I've seen these. I've seen these.
So it's like, no, don't make it to me.

Speaker 3 It's like a cabbage.

Speaker 2 Baby, it's a cabbage.

Speaker 3 A cabbage.

Speaker 3 Right. Oh, my gosh.
All right. Last notes app note.

Speaker 2 So I think the last thing I put in there was something for my assignment.

Speaker 3 Okay. Thanks.
Student. Student.

Speaker 3 Academic. Life fun student.
Coffee order.

Speaker 2 I'm not a coffee person.

Speaker 1 Drink order.

Speaker 2 If it's Starbucks, a, well, since we're in the fall,

Speaker 2 the pumpkin chai tea latte.

Speaker 2 If it's from

Speaker 2 Dutch Bros, it's a

Speaker 2 Double Rainbro.

Speaker 3 Is it a Double Rainbro? Yeah. I heard you say that.
I wasn't sure. Yep.
Oh my gosh, exciting.

Speaker 2 Okay, keep going. And then I don't know if you guys have ever had Swig.

Speaker 3 No, you haven't.

Speaker 2 Oh my gosh, you guys have to try Swig, But Swig, I do the Waukiki.

Speaker 3 Okay. That's very good.

Speaker 2 I'm not going to tell you what's in it because you have to try it out. You just have to have it.

Speaker 3 All right, I would. Gotta get you, Swig.
All right, last one. Most prized pair of sneakers.
Ooh.

Speaker 2 I would probably have to say my Swarwski dunks.

Speaker 3 Yeah, probably. Yeah, easy.
Sounds like a good one. Swarfski dunks.
Yeah. Probably she's those too.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Can you think of an artist or no?

Speaker 2 If it's not Beyonce, it's...

Speaker 2 Oh, that's hard. Okay.
Can I do like genres? Sure, yeah. Okay, so if it's like hip-hop pop,

Speaker 2 um, I would probably have to say, like, Kaylani. Yeah, if it's like RB, I would probably have to say Normani or Coco, of course.
Even though she's Normani's technically like hip-hop, but right.

Speaker 2 I mean, and then Beyonce, of course. See, it's hard.
Megan, like rap, Megan, like, it's just, it's, it's, right, I can't choose. That's why I didn't want to do it.

Speaker 9 Right.

Speaker 3 Did you get close at all with Lauren Heragi on the show? I mean, she was only there for a few weeks.

Speaker 2 Lauren, I miss my girly pop.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I did get close. She literally is the sweetest girl ever.
Like, she fit right in with everybody. I miss you, Lo.

Speaker 3 Can you tell her that Audrey is a massive fan?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I will tell her.

Speaker 3 I was really excited to go and hopefully meet Lauren.

Speaker 2 I would love to. I'm so sad.
I would tell her, for sure.

Speaker 3 She was actually, if you look at my text messages to 21523, it goes, Alona, Alona, Lauren.

Speaker 3 And then Jordan, right? Yes, and then Jordan.

Speaker 3 First episode. And then I also had to do Elaine in there, of course.
But it was first one. I was like, Lauren.
Yeah, she's a massive Fifth Harmony fan.

Speaker 2 i love that and what's your favorite fifth harmony uh song going nowhere oh

Speaker 8 they're having a moment

Speaker 2 i love that you know i want to take you back okay i'm gonna take you back to my favorite i'm gonna say boss oh

Speaker 3 sledgehammer oh jesus okay anyways i love

Speaker 3 money i heard you say it no she we were just talking about i was like she needs to put out more music i need her i need her music she the motivation she loves without i don't even have my phone i can't even text her text so i'm on a podcast right now and every single girl that's in this room needs you to put more music and her dad loves motivation he loves motivation

Speaker 3 oh he loves great beats no she she i hey she's

Speaker 2 tell her i tell her it is exactly

Speaker 3 listening i'm like money where's the music love yeah tell her thank you thanks so much for coming over to the house of marr a wave original be sure to watch and subscribe on youtube and listen wherever you get your podcasts plus follow the show on social media at House of Mar for clips and behind-the-scenes content.

Speaker 3 Thank you so much for watching, Johnny Kills.

Speaker 3 That was so fun. She is so wonderful.
And next week, Olivia. What? I heard you're just running a quick 26.2 miles.
Oh, that thing? Whatever. But then I heard we're podcasting right afterwards.
What?

Speaker 3 Are you going to be okay? No, the answer is no. Okay, I'm running the New York City Marathon next week.
And immediately afterwards, after we all hug and emotional and yay, I did it. You know,

Speaker 3 all goes well, we're gonna go to the studio.

Speaker 3 They asked if I'd be down to do this and I said, yes, if I can have the couch to myself, Dre's got to go and I can wear the tin blanket if I get a tin blanket. I'll be happy.

Speaker 3 I'll be happy. I think I'll be good to go.
It's gonna

Speaker 3 be funny. Yeah, we need knee pads at the ready or ice packs for my knees at the ready.
That'd be really great. So do you think I'm gonna be okay? No, I don't think you're gonna be okay.

Speaker 3 Okay. You're just gonna be laying there and Ajahn I have to talk to each other

Speaker 3 You're gonna fall asleep on the couch actually with my knees elevated also Let's add three Advil to this meads actually Yes, we need Advil a dirty martini. No, it's gonna be

Speaker 3 a drink. Why not? You're just chugging water, buddy.
Who said that? Who said that? Me said that. What are you? The marathon police now? Yeah.
She's the professor. I am actually marathon police.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Now I am, yeah. Chief confidence officer.
Chief confidence officer of the New York City Marathon. That's me.
Right. Okay.
I'm feeling really good about this, guys. About this decision.
I'm excited.

Speaker 3 I think it'll be a good episode, and I can't wait for everyone to hear about my

Speaker 3 first ever marathon journey. Well, since we are doing this, we might have some very special guests joining us.

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