Our Teen Years, Ilona’s Rugby Journey & Sex Ed Lessons From Mom

Let's dive on in, shall we? Oh, we're diving it. Breaststroke it.
Like a doggy paddle. Oh, yeah, probably.
We've never been the best swimmers. Welcome to House of Mar, a Wave original presented by Samsung.
I'm your host, Alona Mar, Olympic medalist rugby player. And no matter how old and mature I get, I will continue to add about two spoonfuls of sugar to my tea and coffee.

And I'm your host, Alona Mar, Olympic medalist rugby player. And no matter how old and mature I get, I will continue to add about two spoonfuls of sugar to my tea and coffee.
And I'm your host, Olivia Mar, a content creator, creator of Girl Dinner and severely lacking vitamin D. And I'm your host, Adrona Mar, human rights advocate.
And I still haven't stopped talking about my two study abroad experiences. Two of them.
Wow. There's so much you don't know about us.
Let's do a little background.

So a lot of people think that I am the eldest sister.

Yeah.

I don't know if it's maturity, how beautiful I am or whatever it is, the vibe I give off,

but I am not.

I am a classic middle child.

It's true.

The oldest over here, we got Olivia coming in at a roaring 30 years old.

See, that wasn't discussed.

She's feeling it.

Why do you have to remember?

Everywhere. I put in my writer that that wasn't discussed.
She's feeling it. Why don't you have to bring that up?

Everywhere.

I put in my writer

that that wasn't supposed to be discussed.

I love it.

Yeah, I am the oldest.

Classic.

I think I'm a classic oldest.

Yeah, absolutely.

You hit every box.

Every box.

She is our little mommy

when our mommy's not here.

She makes us food.

She texts us in.

She texts us in.

She cleans up after us.

You see the kind of money

Lona's bringing in and it's just, yes, I do the cooking. Yes, I do the cleaning.
Yes, right, right, right, right, right, right. And then we have the baby over here.
The little baby. The little baby.
I would also say classic baby. Classic baby.
She got, I mean, you too though, but being younger than me, you each got to do the things sooner than I got to do in my life. Especially you when I got to do it, then you got got to do it.
I'm like, but I couldn't do it two years ago. And her especially, too.
Well, I was also really good at convincing our parents. I knew how to argue.
You just had to know what points to make. We couldn't get our ears pierced until we were 13.
But mom and dad, it's basketball season. And so we have to get it before basketball season or else I'm going to have to take it out.
She's been wheeling and dealing. That's sharp.
I got it. I was 12.
Business mindset, first and foremost. Olivia and I were always very close in age.
I say like when you got to watch the PG-13 movies, I got to watch the PG-13 movies. But you were almost like two and a half years younger than me, but like three years younger than me in grade.
So you kind of felt left out. Yeah, it was tough because you guys were only one year apart in high school together going through all the same sports teams and i was still in middle school and at that age that just feels so huge that like distance between us like and you know i was still like beginning puberty and you guys were kind of at the tail end of course we're not going to connect we had our periods yeah no we're getting blood Yeah, we were women.
I was jealous of everyone else in the hall with their periods.

Right.

Right, right, right.

Wait to start bleeding.

No, we...

Every time I go, I was like, please, please, please, let them be blind.

Today's the day.

But we have gotten over that because that was tough for you growing up being kind of,

not like an outcast, but it definitely was...

No, what's the word for it?

We treated...

In a way, we treated you like an outcast at times. Yeah's four not that dramatic we weren't that mean four-ish years between you and I five-ish five-ish you're four and a half you'll learn living's not the best with math alright it got so much better with age and I think especially once I graduated high school I personally noticed a huge difference in our relationships.
It's just like we were on the same level. You know, you could see me as an adult.
Absolutely. I see you as like a best friend.
Like, did you guys just see I saw a tweet that was like, siblings are awesome. It's like best friends you can be evil to.
I love to be mean to my best friends. You two are very similar, too.
As you've gotten gotten older you've almost gotten like more similar same humor same everything same references sometimes they'll just be having a conversation and i'm up to date on what's happening in the world too but they they'll be riffing off each other and just say it ping-ponging we do we are close in that way but it is funny because we as close as we are and as much on the references as you are up, you are also an old lady in many ways.

Like, it's crazy that you have the most prolific social media presence when you are also the least technologically sound. Would you say? Right.
Yeah, I'd agree. Sometimes you do something online.
I'm like,

Lona knows how to do that.

Yeah, same. It surprises us every time.

And then other ways she's like, I don't really know what like a cloud is.

Like what's going on with that?

What is that? What's going on with that what is what's that what's going on yeah but that has been really cool that we have grown so close over the years um but i think that did start younger when we were growing up one thing that our family's family always put in for us was every single night we had to sit down at the table and have family dinner it didn't matter if our mom worked 12 hours if our dad came from home from a shift he was he was cooking chicken to the point where i was like can you just order a box of pizza and please man the tv and like a like a normal family shows please but i think now being an adult looking back on that how much of a foundation that built for us as a family and as people to have that amount of face-to-face time just with one another, with our parents, to tell them about our days and have people that cared and knew what happened the day before and what was coming. I think it formed us into the people that we are.
And it's like an hour each night to connect and bond. And know and i'm so glad we had that and i think you know that also attributes to like how close we are now yeah big big family dinners every night sit down at the table and even if you're not making your own food like we'll do it where we get takeout and we sit around the table still and that's also turned like my ideal form of fun as an adult is a dinner party controlled environment sitting down with friends there's wine there's food we're not out in the world i love going out in the world but like i just love doing that and having conversation around a table i will say and even when i go on like dates with people it's like how well can you hold the conversation because have you been on dates with men recently no they're not asking questions really no it's very one-sided so like to me at our hit table it was like i'll ask question you'll ask question like that's how i was raised and i'm always interested but sometimes it feels like i'm just interviewing interviewing men for a job or something and then are they like i had a great time yeah no duh can we do this again you talked about you the whole time but that's something that we've grown up we value so much and i think our parents' relationship and that they communicate and they have fun together till like, you know, at their age.
I think that's important when you go on dates and they're not asking you questions back. Yeah.
Dad does talk a lot, but he's because he knows a lot. Oh, that guy does talk.
He does. Yeah.
But he knows a lot. He knows a lot.
Truly one of the smartest people I know. Sometimes you just have to supply him with the questions you want to be asked.
I love it. I'll call him up.
I'll ask him. And then I'm.
Right, right, right. No, I'll see something going on in the world or I'll hear some kind of historical thing.
I'll be like, God, I got to ask Dad about that. He's going to love talking about it.
He's going to love talking about it. He's going to love it.
He's going to love it. But yeah, no, we were very close.
We had very cool kind of birthday parties. We loved it.
Our mom loved a themed birthday, but not a theme like you would expect. right no like i had one of my favorites growing

up was this fairy themed party i had it too you had it and you had it but in a separate location

many years later and she once again she'd honed her craft but she went in yeah like i'm pretty sure obviously like not maybe not the best thing for the earth love the earth and everything but it was like this nature walk that she brought my whole party through but she had gone through beforehand and dropped marbles and sparkly things and little gems and like there were things along the way there was like a pin the braid or pin the pin the crown on a on a princess like that she had nailed to a tree in the middle of the walk that nails there to this day yeah yeah i went on that a few years ago mom found the nail yeah i walk by it every time i go there. I go, there's the nail from my, like, what, sixth birthday party? Yeah.
And then there was, like, a hidden treasure chest underneath that, like, we were following a map to this treasure chest that was buried under the slide at the playground. Like, incredibly, just, like, intricate, magical stuff that, like, made our childhood magical in that way.
She did that for you, right? Well, legend has it there is so glitter at ethan allen home right right from those legendary parties absolutely i had a i've had a fairy with party i had a mermaid birthday party oh you remember that with the big mermaid sign my with the cutout like the like the cut out one that was oh my god that just like brought something out of me to find my most favorite though is fun thing about me i love a grocery store you know that i. I love roaming the halls of a grocery store.
Especially in a foreign country. Especially in a foreign country.
I love an expensive grocery store so I can, you know, judge the prices and whatnot, see how fresh it is. A general store.
A general store. Oh, don't I love it? I don't even eat tin fish, but I got to look at the tin fish.
Oh. The beautiful packaging.
This cheese was made right down the road from the cow bessie all the hens are named yeah yeah yeah yeah any of you okay so my birthday party our local shopping market at in vermont was called the hannaford's shout out hannaford's new england new england um my mom went i don't know what why she thought of this idea i had a birthday party the supermarket. Me and a bunch of my little friends went to the deli counter.
We went into the bakery. I think I was employee of the month.
I think I got assigned being employee of the month. You wore a little name tags.
I got little name tags. We were walking through Hannaford's.
Yeah, I remember that. I mean, that was awesome.
You saw the freezer. I wonder what happened when she was like, hey, I got a great idea for my kid's birthday party.
Who'd she know at Hannaford's to make it happen? Who did she have to talk to? I've been, she probably knows some people. She's been wheeling in.
She's been in that town. Behind the bakery.
She's been in that town crafting. She'd be talking to the butchers.
Yeah, she do. And let people slice in the ham.
She loves to chat them up. It does.
That's like, and like, who thinks of that? But she knew that you loved a grocery store. So she was like, let's make that happen.
Even as a young kid, what a weirdo. Yeah.
I just loved to, I didn't even have money no yeah what was i buying there right right right you just liked it you're there for the free cookies but dad does too dad loves just to wander around a grocery store he'll just like go and i think also me to this day i don't buy lots of things at once to like stock up i very fortunate to live close to some grocery stores that i just like oh i feel like this today so i'll go gather those little supplies so i'm always just like gathering little by little and that's what dad does as well he goes and like buys a loaf of bread he's like oh i'll go back to the store he loves that being an adult is just when is the next time you're going to go to the grocery store i don't mind that's just planning planning when you're going to head to the grocery store again i go probably three times a day and you you gotta you gotta put a backpack on i yeah and new york city there's a hill when you come up to my apartment and by the end of it my shoulders are aching right but i still go i've got friends who get like uh groceries delivered and i i don't want to do that i want to see what's there no thrill no thrill at all let me walk the halls and the aisles and see what calls to me do i spend way too much money by doing that yes if it's on sale and it's a little something i've never tried before i'm getting it i'm getting it i'm spending 40 dollars and just weird stuff let's explain our mom a little bit yeah please she is the best cook in the world oh my god i'll put i'll put money on it yeah i say that's how we got to be the size we are that and pints of milk at dinner literally every night every night like two glasses of milk chug chug chug everyone's like ew milk i'm like okay well i'm from vermont what do you want me to drink water big old yep that is water amazing because she can like you can say hey mom i want like a chicken curry with a little bit of this and that. And she like just can create it.

She'll literally commune with the universe and be like, got it.

And then she makes the most amazing stuff.

From scratch too.

Like she's not buying anything.

She's like putting the ingredients together.

Like if it starts with flour, it's starting with flour.

She doesn't grow it herself.

She's a homemaker.

She loves bringing people in, cooking for people.

Olivia's really gotten that now.

She loves to cook for people, loves to make people feel comfortable. And my mom cooks with butter, milk.
Or whenever you come back for like in between training and you're wanting to get greens and she's like, well, I'll make you Brussels sprouts. And I watch her make it.
I'm like, there's a lot of butter in that. I don't know if that's what a lot of men when she wanted the greens.
No, she cooks with like love and full fat you know it's absolutely amazing she is our biggest supporter whenever people ask her question about me they're like tell us a little bit about alona alona she's like you know what i actually have two i have three daughters and all of them are so amazing oh my just won bronze like what tell us about alona she's like well she is great but adriana she has a windows room in new york city that she is so proud of and olivia she's on the internet right like she's so and then she'll get to you she's like she needs the world to know there's three she has three amazing babies to the point where you've had to be oh yeah we've had to step in you can talk about alona it's fine please we're like mom don't mention us please it's about alona like if she's winning we're all winning so talk about alona please unless we're at a rugby tournament and like we're at a restaurant about to go in and she's sees an opening with the waiter and she's like we're actually here for uh yeah the rugby my my daughter is playing you can find her online yeah yeah and then she gives him a sticker i'm like mom that guy doesn't know who i. You can find her online.
Yeah, yeah. And then she gives him a sticker.
I'm like, Mom, that guy doesn't know who I am. He's going to throw that sticker out.
She has my stickers. She'll give them out to anybody who recognizes me.
Yeah. So I'm there taking a picture, and then I walk away.
It turns out she's back behind me like, I have to order them like special for her. I send them to the house.
I mean, my favorite fact about our mom, though, is we grew up. Nobody believes us.
Quite socially awkward, except for her. She was quite cool.
I mean, well, you were better than us. You got better than us for sure.
And now you guys are better than me. You make friends easier than we do.
Yeah, no, that's true. So we went to a very tiny Catholic school in Vermont from, Alona and I, preschool to eighth grade.
So a large chunk of our, you know, right and growing up and the school the people we went to school with stayed the same but like did get smaller and smaller as we went um so i graduated one of six people how many did you have nine one of nine people i graduated one of six with one boy in my class in eighth grade hate to beat you one of five wow and one year it was four because someone went to a different school but then they came back but then the school like closed due to under attendance crazy what i don't understand that that's crazy but um it was so like these people were like our siblings growing up like i had my sisters and we they were in the other classrooms but then the the small core of people like those were our siblings growing up so we only socialized with them we didn't really socialize outside yeah so when we did end up going to the public high school it shook us to our core shook us to our core to our core i mean except for her so she got to go to public middle school though yes and i'm so glad yeah for that it was it was a war i i think i may have lost i lost many battles. Maybe the war itself.
But I came out and actually I am still friends with most of my students to this day from middle school. And it was just like I was so confident and ready in sixth grade.
I was like, I'm going to make friends. I had my sights set high for the popular girls, which is why middle school was so difficult.
I think it would have been difficult no matter what.

Because middle school girls are brutal, especially in public school.

I don't know what your experience was.

Oh, no.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But it was tough.

But it made me stronger.

And then going into high school, I had established friendships.

And high school is kind of just fine.

Not us.

Not us.

No.

Adriana was actually cool.

I still remember the first time I talked to a boy in high school. Vividly.
Shout out, Alex. Walking in the hallway next to him.
I was so tense. So nervous.
I was like, is this happening? Really cool. And it was just a normal encounter.
It was a normal encounter. We were just going from class to class.
But I only had three boys in my class. And they were like my brothers.
In middle school. The thought of any...
When I went to public middle school for sports, they were like, oh, and then I kissed this boy. I was like, y'all are kissing boys? That's insane to me.
You guys are layering lacy tank tops and kissing boys. That's crazy.
And there's push-up bras involved. Whoa, not me.
This is the other side. I gotta put my jumper on.
For real. Yeah, we gotta put our little uniforms on.
Get back to our six people in the classroom get back and go to church once a week yeah twice a week when they made us do it on the weekdays too oh yeah that was crazy one good lord amen uh and we went to a catholic school fun fact back to our mom she was a sex educator at Catholic school. school yep yep very fun fact i actually didn't mind it she was a school nurse so she was cool and she just came in to teach sex absolutely some random woman she was like i'll do it oh she's she's doing i know what i'm doing i'll talk about it but she was there were like because it was a catholic school there was restrictions on what she could talk about but she did a good job with it anyway there was a bit of a shock and awe factor about it absolutely didn't a girl faint in your class well she a couple girls fainted yeah no sorry one just one girl fainted still friends with her to this day um and then my mom would walk in and just yell penis yeah that was how she would quiet down these catholic school kids like what is she about to talk about yeah and i thought she was cool i feel like i don't remember ever being embarrassed by her doing that no i was like that's my mom i remember feeling that i should but then i didn't right and she'd already given us like the sex talk outside and i remember like because she could only say certain things in this because it was you know abstinence like that's what the teaching was whereas i'm like that's not the tune you were singing like you're singing safe sex and birth control and i don't think you're ready now but when you are like come to me and let's do it the right way yeah and i think because of that i never felt that pressure to be like when we did get to high school and it seemed like everyone was having sex like we i was a virgin we were you know what i mean like we didn't do that for a while but because i who, instead of going, don't do it.
And us being like, well, what is it? Why? It was kind of like, cool. I hear you.
Almost made it less cool. Made it less cool.
Like, how kind of. Which, maybe she tried it.
Maybe that was on purpose. I think that's reverse psychology.
She worked that on us. But I also don't know if I had the opportunity to do it.
Yeah. I mean, you probably did.
Miss Hottie over here. I could have found it.
My favorite story. Everyone in everyone in high school oh my gosh do you and Olivia are twins you guys look so much like tell me why I'm not getting any attention tell me why all the boys are barking up on the street and I got nothing stop telling me that then we're not twins there's something wrong here sometimes I know sometimes I know the front yeah a little different you're doing the math you're doing yeah i was doing the math and i was like right um nobody's talking to me right well we were also we saw her grow up first and we're like all right boobs are coming i've been slow to say it but it's because of her gorgeous boobs thank you so much thank you so much yes i was waiting for that day i was like it's it's in my jeans It's gonna happen to me i was like it's gonna come and you got you got some me on that hand you got luscious gorgeous hair okay oh yeah it's no it's your brain alona yeah right it's my brain yeah i thought i olivia and i would make fun of each other because i i got like boobs first and i was like sucker yeah look Look at you there flat chest loser as soon as mine came they stopped hers boom i said she's like hold my hold my hold my glass of melt you know that feeling when life is coming at you fast and you just need a little help that's where my samsung galaxy s25 ultra comes in this phone isn't just smart it's basically my AI-powered sidekick, keeping me on top of everything without missing a beat.
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I have some really good ones. I think special ones that you guys didn't get from her she loved an analogy i think she was workshopping for your guys's talks and when she got to me she figured it out she had two to this day she doesn't remember them she's like i wouldn't say that i'm like yes you did this is a vivid memory we were in the car to swim class you You said, having your period, it's like making an apple pie.

You know, you start by making the dough and you put that on the bottom,

layer it up the walls, uterine lining,

and then you add in the filling and you put it in the oven.

And I think that's kind of where I got lost too.

Because this one is just kind of, it was supposed to be about how a period happens. So then I guess it goes by taking away slices right but the better one in my opinion you make another pie yeah then you make another pie each each month you're making a pie and the pie is your uh uterine lining wow shedding and did you understand it or were you like every month like god womanhood is exhausting i have to make a pie every month to be a a woman is to perform to be able to make do i have to be a good baker what feeling are we talking about mom yeah like why does it have to be apple what is this yeah shouldn't it be cherry uh something red i don't know but my favorite was um her hotel room because obviously our oma and opa had a motel growing up so she worked and she would help make rooms and stuff and so she told me a period is like i don't know why i needed two analogies um a period is like um a motel room you know you're expecting visitors and so you are changing the sheets you are fluffing the pillows you are getting the room ready but the uh visitor doesn't come so um oh but the sheets are now old they need to be refreshed this is a nice motel uh oh right so you have to take away all the sheets and you have to wash them and get them out of the room which is the period happening wow my hotel is like one of those cool new you know hotels that are like made to look old absolutely you're talking about like artsy or they actually there's like a design what are those called um boutique hotel boutique my my hotel is like a boutique hotel right your uterus my uterus hotel you anything else you want to add about that are you having visitors no i keep it ready for visitors for sure you're changing the sheets yeah i'm changing the sheets wow yeah fluffing the pillows fluffing the pillows on there right right it's like yeah it's like luxury it's a luxury experience absolutely yours a rundown um c motel that's that's a motel six six.
She's prepping a motel six. I'm prepping a motel six.
It's smoking a cigarette. There's water stains.
Black mold on the tiles. Just to be clear, Olivia is perfect.
Just to be clear olivia is perfect just to be clear well somebody watches this hey i saw you describing your vagina i'm so excited about this date but um yeah could you let me know if anything's happening google maps link i can see yeah like where this motel six is i don't know no it's actually it's beautiful what the hell no yours is good it's fine it's so funny those are good analogies though she's like i'm proud that we get that was a period analogy yeah any like water your garden to bloom no i think she knew that that needed to be really clear oh don't mess around of like i do remember the first time again this was the same car ride to swim practice and she was busy and she was telling me she was like so you know a penis can actually fit into a vagina and i remember that age i was like and like why would it do i was fun fact. Why? I didn't understand what she was saying.
I was like, just a unique coincidence. Like, what's going on? Why are you telling me this? Unique coincidence? Did she open the conversation with that? I think last week maybe.
Because it was silence in the car. She was like, did you know? That's it.
And I was like, I'm in my swimsuit ready to go. Right, right.
I'm just trying to swim some laps for me. Can we talk about this another time? You said we could go to the dining hall at the cool college afterwards.
You can make your own creamy soft serve. Creamy.
We're from Vermont. It's called a creamy.
It's not soft serve. We, I don't remember if we got any analogies, but we loved those American Girl books.
The Care and Keeping of You. The Care and Keeping of You.
They've changed them. I actually loved reading those.
I loved those books. I'd sit there and just read.
We shared the same one. Went down through hands.
It's still in my room to this day. My daughter is getting that book.
Because they've changed it. I think they took out the tampon insertion.
I was just thinking about that part. But I can't.
How many girls did that book help like i can only imagine you know what i mean who didn't have a mom that was like as helpful as

ours or you know as informational like that must be so it's like like how to check your like breasts

for for cancer for things that i like stuck with me to this day that i'm like oh yeah i should check

my breasts because the care and keeping of you american girl doll book told me the illustrated

guide taught me how to do it i do remember looking at the um maybe i manifested uh my my my rack

Thank you. american girl doll book told me the illustrated guide taught me how to do it i do remember looking at the uh maybe i manifested uh my my my rack uh because there was there was like images in it we got we got all this session we need we need the care and keeping of you available right here where it was the bra fitting but it was also like that breasts come in all shapes and sizes and like it was like girl different girls looking in the mirror and i've been being like i want that one as if it was a toy catalog before christmas too and yeah didn't manage it as hard as i did yeah i guess not yeah circling it stars gold stars it would be great but we've always been open about talking about that talking about our love lives with each other and how that all works even with our mom yeah i think she's gotten to a place where she always wanted to be a place for us to to share things like that without judgment so that we would come to her so i think even those talks with us she made it so that it was like this is something you're gonna do it's okay to do by doing that we were more open to sharing with her knowing she's not gonna judge us like that was really important for us and even to this day i mean i call her she probably regrets that now the things you tell her i'm like mom you're never gonna get you're never gonna believe what happened i she's probably like i tell the story i i called mom the day after i lost my virginity at your sexual debut sorry debut.
Sorry, my sexual debut. You didn't lose anything.
I, first off, wronged you up

with the girls. Oh, yeah.
I told you the story.

I was in a parking lot, too. We were all like, yeah!

I remember it vividly. And then mom was at

we had family over.

I was like, mom, I gotta talk to you. She's like, alright, I'll go upstairs.

She goes upstairs to the bathroom

and I'm like, mom,

I lost my virginity.

And she was like, oh wow and mind you she's an adult woman yeah this was in my 20s and I was like so you're probably gonna need to schedule a guy for me right now I imagine I'll be pretty busy from now on. Yeah.
Motel is open.

Hotel is open.

I'm changing the sheets.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Constantly.

You know, like, I just think that's probably the way it is.

So we'll get that in, get some stuff, you know.

I'm going to be busy.

So she accepted the news, was like, okay, you know, be safe and blah, blah, blah, blah.

And I will get that scheduled for you.

I guess.

I don't know. She goes back down to sit at the table table with like the family friends there and she's silent she's silent like just like catatonic just like catatonic doesn't sleep a wink that night whereas i'm like that's it look at world legs first woman's here legs first i am here uh but yeah she's always been that.
We can talk to her about pretty much anything to the point where I'm like, I probably shouldn't have shared that. But no, that's good.
Continue to. But then she did.
She stepped up and helped and she got you the appointment. I got the gyno.
Got the gyno. Got the birth control.
Making sure her daughter was healthy. Yeah.
It's special to have that sort of relationship with your mom. i think yeah she was very comfortable talking to us about it and she was also i mean people your whole thing is body positivity body appreciation and living in the body that you're in and you're always you know pushing that messaging which is so important but it's like we also did we were raised with a naked mom um she was naked around us like right like she would get changed in front of us we We would see what a woman's body looks like in all of its forms and being pregnant and then giving birth and moles and stretch marks.
And to us, that was so beautiful. And we got to experience what a woman's body is.
And now being in a woman's body, I love and appreciate it because I saw it in all of its forms. Whereas I have friends who you can sometimes just tell they weren't raised with a naked mom they are not comfortable in their skin they're not comfortable with other women in that way um at all but I so I think we're very lucky to have been raised with a mom who even if maybe she wasn't feeling as like you can't be body positive all the time but she didn't ever put that on us and she still like just was she just existed and she never never talked about our bodies in any type of way she never talked her about her body in any type of way when we were growing up and i think that sticks with you absolutely all of our features were made to feel the most beautiful yeah our height our shoulders our athleticism was always um spotlighted as this amazing trait that we have um and i remember, you know, obviously I have fairer skin and freckles.
Well, you have freckles too, but mom and dad would always be like, and those are so beautiful, you really shine. And I always felt so beautiful.
And I'm so glad I had that basis because I know other people who have freckles that constantly cover them with foundation. For me, that is a wild sentiment.
I'm like, why are you covering them up? That's your face. It's beautiful.
So they really made me appreciate who I was at a young age. I saw this thing online where it was like start to compliment girls more about like their smarts and whatnot instead of how they look.
I thought that was interesting. I think there's a balance there.
Because I see so many girls and I also like, oh, you're so pretty and whatnot. But I started like oh you look so strong or you look so you know you look so smart or something like that so i've seen that that that's like kind of a change that can be done because we focus so much on beauty at times or there's so much more to to person but it's so simple yeah simple i think mom did a good job was like well your your shoulders are doing so well like you get to you're doing amazing sports because of these big shoulders or oh you're so so smart.
You should do this. I think there's a balance and I'm learning every day too how to handle young fans, how to talk to myself and whatnot.
I think you do a great job with your young fans. Thank you.
You love seeking them out. No matter how tired you are, you're there.
You're crouching down with them telling them how cool they look and how strong they look and what they can do. Asking if they play sports like that's got to be so but i think that's how mom would have acted yeah you know that's how mom if she was like that she would have said all those things as well so for all our listeners you are strong you are smart and you are important you are beautiful i don't know if we can use that we just came up with that actually yeah that's a house of mar original so yeah and her her thing for us the past couple of years which i love and it connects all of us is we are adult women and i think she started to be like where what do i get them for christmas what do i what do i get you know i got i got pots and pans from costco at 22 years old i was like well that's that's a wrap on some fun birthdays huh okay so it's adulthood from here on out great pots and pans i have them to this day i was like you'd actually be really excited to get that wouldn't you i was stoked but i was like in college so i was like okay um but now she gives us sister jewelry uh every christmas it's a new thing she started with um these initial necklaces because you you actually started it you bought us those little initial necklaces at some like gift store in like australia or somewhere on tour but they got green really they got they were like not good metal but we still we loved them you started something um you started something remember you got those little like tiny i still have it i don't it sounds i think it's coming back what the hell man but you started and mom saw those and she's like i'll get them like real ones that they can have for life because like actual pieces of jewelry is something that we can carry with us for the rest of our lives and we'll use and not just be like oh whatever it's just another you know gift so she got us those in real gold and then every christmas from there she makes us a piece of sister jewelry um and so we each like we're kind of we're blinged out currently like this is all the necklaces you see us wearing are what she had made for us.
And they're each in our own medals. Like, I don't know.
What's your medal? I'm a yellow gold because I was wearing a lot of yellow gold. A lot of gold jewelry.
I am nervous. I'm like, what if I don't think I look good in gold one day? No, this is my assigned medal forever.
I think you're good. You're good with your coloring.
You'll be fine. You do, like, one of those color matches.
color matches and they say never wear gold again you look like a corpse yeah why are you wearing gold you're a spring you're a spring throw it throw out all your gold turquoise only and so then you're my is it mine is white gold because I wore a lot of silver jewelry anyway and yours is titanium gold yeah something like that because Ilona would wear this one titanium ring that our mom got for her 30th um nursing um like anniversary basically so now she makes all of our our jewelry in those color schemes but we're kind of being like hey we're kind of running out of jewelry space here like we we're gonna go under like brooches and i got almost every finger with a ring on it yeah yeah she also has a lot of olympic rings and she has national championship rings so she's her hands are quite heavy pimping wait um but we our latest our latest one was is this one here and it says uh coffee tea wine which is the flow when we're home in vermont we start the day with coffee and we go into tea later in the afternoon and then wine as we wind down our day. That's just how we like to live our lives.
And I think we're also going to do this show in much the same way. Start with a jolt of energy, a bit of caffeine, the coffee to start.
We'll have a bit of tea time later on and then we'll wind things down, which I just think is the perfect way to welcome people into our house because that's how we do things the house of mar the house of mar as you all know we are very online so i thought we'd kick things off with us out in the wild touching grass being real what's been going on not touching grass but touching the coldest water possible you guys made me do a cold plunge right which i thought i'd I'd done them before. No, not that cold.

That's why I kept asking.

And I felt like I was being annoying.

Because I was like, but has she?

Because I feel like there would be a stronger reaction

to her answers if she actually had.

So I was so confident going in.

And I was like, cold plunge, done that.

But you did so good?

Well, the first one I did decent.

And then I kept getting worse.

Which is interesting because you usually get better.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Not you.

I'm unique like that. My calves were were freezing off it started to get painful yeah um but i'm proud of myself i mean it's kind of cool because you actually did the hardest way you got in and then you tried to get out which was like and then you got yourself under the water which is incredible like the fight or flight you could see it happening on your face and you you push through it was great it was the pressure um of you guys in the pool i was like they're in it i gotta do it i can't i can't back out that's embarrassing it was tough it was cold and i can't imagine how often you do that i don't ice bath as much as i as people would think for athletes just because i find it uncomfortable but i have have gotten into sauna-ing.
I mean, sauna seems to be the thing everybody's doing. So I do sauna.
I get them out. So we went to this place here in Bristol called Siva Wellness.
And it's like a wood fire sauna. You throw wood in there and you're sitting there.
It's like out in nature. The birds are chirping when you're there.
The birds are there oh the sun is out like talk about touching

grass i do love the sauna too because it's like you can't take your phone in there you just have to kind of be present and then the cold tub i was i was impressed by both of you i think i don't i don't really like to do it i started to get into it because i did it more uh during dance with the stars but we just got to be there together and recover. From what? For us? For you guys, I don't know.
My plan, Rad. The long winter.
The long winter here. No, I loved it, though.
I've gotten more and more into it, and I do sleep like a baby afterwards. I don't know if that's science.
We all took a nap. I took a nap immediately afterwards.
She passed out on the couch. She was snoring on the couch.
You made us pasta, and I was like, don't you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was fun to do it.
For some reason I had a feeling you hadn't actually really done like a cold plunge cold plunge. So I was excited to get it on camera and that was just a good time.
Good thing to do all together. Good thing to do.
Also, very brave of me. You recorded it, posted it, and now it's got like 2 million views.
I wonder if it's because you could kind of see the bottom of my feed. I blurred it out.
out okay i was working at it because i saw the views on that and i was like what the heck i know these foot freaks foot feet freaks for real she blurred it out but i do feel like somebody's puzzling that together the thing is i i waited i was like either i blur out the dogs or i keep them in and like if you don't people will be like oh free feet and you but instead I

blurred them so everyone was like oh the blurred feet so it's like another I mean I think it helped

actually like people commenting on that yeah engagement whereas I wanted people to focus on

how funny her faces were that entire time but no that was an almost an out-of-body experience

oh and then because we do it again like you do the contrast therapy and she was like, I don't know if I need to do it again. We're like, you're doing it again.
Because you first go into the sauna for like 10 minutes and I'm having a great time and with my sisters chatting and then, oh, cold plunge. And then I'm in that cold plunge.
I'm only in there for a minute. I'm like, how many more times do I have to do this today? So when he got back to the sauna, I was now dreading it.
I was like, I've got 10 minutes of peace. Then I have to do that again? Almost ruined it.
But it didn't. Okay, I'll be real with you.
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Something else we've done out in the wild recently was Magic Mike XXL Live. I've been watching this for a while.
I've seen the videos constantly. So I saw one video recently and I commented, I would like to go to there.
So then they followed me. I followed them and we started chatting.
We were in London a couple weekends ago, and we decided to go

brought myself, my

agent, Olivia,

and then one teammate, her girlfriend, and then

another rugby player.

And it was a magical experience.

This show...

Magic Mike.

And they're doing it. This show was designed for women

that you get a

little nervous when you first get there. You think it's going to be like a show, a classic misogynistic.
They give you the old bait and switch. Old bait and switch.
They do. And it was scary at first.
We don't want to obviously give away the show because you should see it. It was really fun.
But I also do now need to go see every show around the world. I want to collect them like Pokemon.
And they started, they opened in such a way where alona was like i messed up like i what did i do oh my gosh i dragged some friends here this is so embarrassing like what the hell but thankfully like we were like what the hell we need to get out of here but we switched it they switched it sorry i fell in love yeah did you find love too i found love i don't think he found love right in me i would per se yeah like i was like oh my god he looked at me and then i'm like he just looked at her too what the hell right but it was it was like there's dancing there's so much going on the music so fun i got danced on at one point and all i was just like thank you so much thank you so much and then he would like take my hands and place them on him and I was like yep and she was like when he first got there she was like it's happening to me it was awesome it's so different than like I think maybe other shipwaters where men would just be kind of like trying to touch the woman and they appreciate it like they were like literally I was like sorry just trying to be respectful of your space here man do your thing and then he's like Is this a safe zone to touch? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was awesome.
You were like, yeah. We had a ball of a time too.
They make the show so fun. It's for women to enjoy.
There's like a slow dance portion and a guy sings and plays piano. That was impressive.
Yeah, he was singing. There's acrobatics.
It's really something. They're jumping on the banisters.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I gotta get there.
Boosh. I know.
You wanted to to be one of the people that got to go on stage. I wanted to be one of the people on stage, but then I realized they pick the girls up.
They pick the girls up and around their waist. Not that we aren't petite.
Not that I'm not tiny. And able to be flung around.
But the size of these guys... Beautiful.
Old Mike down there wouldn't be able to lift me up. If anything, he'd fall.
So it was for the best I wasn't down there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it's honestly great to take your girls to. Wow.
It's a good time. It's a good time.
I think that I'll be going again. You can find me in Vegas.
I gotta go. You'll find us in Vegas on a Magic Mike show.
I will take you. You gotta see this.
Please. I think if think if i went again i would sit alone so they had to dance on me ew because i was stacked between people and so like they didn't come dance on me so they're gonna dance on the weird lonely girl who came by herself who came by herself if i'm sitting like this that's not mysterious on a magic mic show that's weird it's she's front bro just send them and el weird it's me in the xxl margarita yeah come here come to mama come to mama big boy i'm sat like this the whole time uh i think you just had to sit on the end yeah no it's true and i noticed that because i was i was taking notes the whole time of who was getting danced on and it was the girls on the end i was I was trapped.
She was in the middle, so she would have gotten danced on. Yeah.
You just missed it. They definitely wanted us to dance on.
No, they wanted to. They wanted to, the way they were, for sure.
The way they were looking at me was like, oh, he sees me, and he sees everybody else in this auditorium. Yeah, because he was also seeing me.
Right. So, Alana, you've gone from the Olympics, winning medals, doing the whole thing, into Dancing with the Stars, into being over here in England.
You know, how are you feeling about it all? I'm tired a lot. But I also am so excited for everything I'm doing.
Like, I posted a video, I think Taylor Swift said, I get tired a lot, but I don't get tired of it. It's been amazing.
I think I was unsure about doing Dancing with the Stars because I knew how hard it would be. And it was during a time where I was still kind of coming off of the Olympics and I was the talk of the town.
And I didn't want to, I wanted to use all these opportunities to go here and there. And so I was like, oh, if I go to Dancing with the Stars, not that I thought it was like an old show, but people were like, oh, it's a show where, you know, if you're at the end of your career, you go on and see you can get a burst of fame.
And so I got nervous about that. Cause that's what people were telling me when I said I was going to do Dancing with the Stars.
They're like, Oh, are you sure about that? And so I got nervous, but you and my agent were so, you know, I think this will be the best for you. And it was the best decision for me because what it did was like, I was in the Olympic mind.
Everyone thought of me as the Olympianian but then being on dancing with stars being on people's tv screens every tuesday posting out videos constantly i was in their minds continuously again for another three months and so i think it just did wonders for my career as well in media and in the u.s to show who i was you showed that you're an entertainer like you're an olympian but you also are an entertainer that's why why you do so well on social. Absolutely.
And I think like Dancing with the Stars has, it's like anything. It's ebbed and flowed.
But I think throughout all of that, it's always meant something different to Olympians and to the athletes that are on it. And I was so excited for you to have that experience.
And that, you know, in the beginning there, it was like, it's going to be good. I swear.
I'm like, oh, my gosh. What if I'm like pushing in the wrong direction? What if it's not good? But then it was so, so fabulous.
And you'll have those memories for life. It was an amazing moment in time.
And I'm so happy I did it, but it was a lot of work. It was seven days a week.
Like we trained every day and something that's so not natural for me. I've always done things that I'm good at.
And then here I was doing something completely natural. But while we were doing that, I got an email or I got a DM from one of my teammates, Abby Ward.
And she was at the Bristol Bears was like, hey, you know, the coaches from the Bristol Bears would love to chat with you. And I told her, well, I can't.
I'm doing it. Sorry, I wouldn't be free until January, but I'll still take a call with them.
And we took a call with them. They were they were late on it.
I remember that. And I was like, how are they going to start off by being late? But now my coaches, Dave and Tom, that i think it's funny we hopped on a call with them and they're like you know we even if it's just for those last those first three months of the year we want you for that time and we think we can put in appeals we think you can get get you over because it was that i wasn't eligible to play because i hadn't played for my national 15s team in a while because this would be 15s rugby which in the olympics i played sevens rugby so this is like a completely different form but i wanted to play this form because there's a world cup coming up this year in 2025 and so i wanted to get into 15s a little more so we kind of made just like that decision from right from dance with stars to go out to england and start playing rugby here and it's been amazing because it's also now set me up in the rugby space to show what I am, who I am as a figure in rugby.
And I got to, I was, you know, got to play and really get into it. But the impact that I think I've had has been really cool to see.
I mean, records were set and people were so excited because of this girl who, you know, posted the videos and it just showed the power I guess I have and made me want to keep doing it. I think it was like interesting at times.
It's always interesting. It's a, it's a weird battle I have to kind of deal with of like play rugby or do things outside that would make me so much more money.
Like if I could, I would just be an athlete, but I've said it so many times before, I'm just not going to make, you know, money So as a rugby player, as a female rugby player, I have to do so much more off the field. And it gets to the point where it's almost like rugby, you have to do it more for passion.
Whereas I could be making this and this and doing this outside, yet I love this game. The stuff that you've had to build on the outside.
Whereas I think what you're saying is like, like male athletes, if you play in the NFL, you are, you know, you make a certain type of paycheck where you can just play the sport that you love. Whereas you've played the sport that you love while building stuff on the outside.
And now you're at that, not a crossroads because rugby is your love and your passion, but the money that you make in rugby versus the money that you could make to help set yourself up for the future. You know, instead of playing a sport that is just so brutal, brutal it's tough on the body but at the same time like I think it is so tough on the body that it is right now it's like you're playing it now and these are the years to be doing it so I think your head's in the right place to be continuing on it it is hard though and we you know you and I were chatting about it a lot this season like I'm putting my body on the line for something that is giving me a lot but at at times I feel like I'm giving it much more.
Like I'm going out there every day with the possibility of, you know, getting injury as happens with any sport, but there's that possibility every time. And I'm like, gosh, why am I doing this to myself? Like, you know, I could be, I could be just living and making a living doing, you know, media now yet I get tackled every day and I sit for them and I tackle other people.
And it's a lot on the body for, I guess, for a lot of my teammates, they're putting their whole bodies on the line for very little reward. For a lot of them, it's semi-professional.
A lot of them aren't getting paid. If they're getting paid, it's very little.
A lot of them are working full-time jobs. We have doctors and nurses on our team and teachers.
So like we're in rugby doing this for passion but at what time can it be like for as a job as a career because nobody calls rugby their career or they say it but it's really not a career you do it for this kind of fleeting moment and then i have teammates from sevens who have gone back to desk jobs who are you know back into the workforce like it never happened like we never traveled the world playing rugby together but I think this was the best option for me I've met so many great people one of my favorites is Sarah Byrne who's you know one of the best players my personal best player in the world I think and I wanted other people to know that as well but I think what was so great about the Bears we have so many amazing players on there Abby Ward, Jazz Joyce from all sorts of countries I got to learn so much from all of them and it just set me up for success and I think also they were really happy that I was there for what I could bring. It sounds like you found a really wonderful new team culture and community on the 15s team and i wonder you're gonna go back to the sevens

team maybe one day and it's gonna be a whole group of girls are you ever nervous to go into

a new team again with this amazing experience you've had here yeah i think this experience was like unlike any other i felt so much a part of the team from the moment i was there and when i go back to I don't know if I'll go play for Bristol Bears again.

I think it was a lot to move over here to England

to be two hours away from London and whatnot

because my livelihood, everything is over in America,

in New York or LA where I do shoots and deals.

So it's like, it was very hard to manage that

because we had to pass up on so many things

while I was here in Bristol.

But I think this was, again, like Dancing with Stars was a moment in time. This was a moment in time for me that I'll always remember.
And when I go back to Sevens, I think, again, I'll just be learning a whole new group of people and seeing how, I guess, I fit in, seeing where I fit in. I know you talk a lot about that rugby you're doing almost for a passion and that, you you know you're not making a you can't really make a livelihood out of just rugby and you can go into entertainment at this point do you ever worry about no longer having that rugby current rugby player title attached with it i think that's one of the reasons why i came here to bristle to play because i don't want to be just known as a content creator influencer i'd always i hate when people just say that say that about me.
Oh, she's just an Instagrammer. Oh, she's like, one guy commented on a video of me, on a video of Bristol Bears, like, oh, are you going there to see the Instagrammer or are you going to, you know, watch the team? First of all, I'm an Olympic medalist.
First of all, I'm a great rugby player. But people sometimes forget about that and just put me in that box.
And I think it's important to be known as an athlete, especially in America. Like we love athletes.
We think athletes are the top of the top. We love a winner.
I'm proud to be, yeah, I'm proud to be an athlete. I, I, something that I've always kind of really associated with my sense of self.
And I want other people to know that. So I think this was for me solidifying myself as a rugby player in what is the traditional form of rugby.
It's almost like a double-edged sword of like, you love rugby so much, but you have to put your body on, like on the line for it. But it's still rewarding to have that title of rugby player.
Yeah. Which is crazy that you're like an Olympic medalist in a sport, but it's rugby sevens.
So it's like the people like over here are like, okay, well, that's that, whatever. Like this is, everyone kept being like, welcome to English rugby when you broke your nose and stuff.
It's like, okay. It also kills me because you won three national championships as a 15th player.
The game has changed a lot. In college, yeah.
You've got some exciting things going on. You've also been really trying to up your personal game, your, you know, personal brand.
And I think it's really paid off for you. I'm trying.
I kind of, I have sort of like a moment of like coming into the light where it's like, yeah, if I want to make content and I want to travel the world doing that, I need to make content and travel the world. It's not just going to happen.
You got to do it to do it. But I've always made silly little videos on YouTube, you know, terrible edits.
If you watch my stuff from over 10 years ago. But like I did that and I put that out there and then slowly but surely.
But I think like anyone, posting is a very daunting thing. And I always credit you and how much, I mean, you're very different the way you approach things.
It's kind of like, hey, I got something to say. I'm going to say it.
I'm going to post it. And that's that.
And that's why people relate to you. And that's why you feel so authentic to people is you just are like, you know what? Post it, post it, post it.
And that's how I came up with Girl Dinner was I had a thought I was realizing and I was like, I can't be the only person that does this. You know, my one friend was like, hey, I do that too.
And I was like, yeah, I think a lot of women and people probably do that. And I looked a mess, recorded myself making that video.
And I remember having this moment was like, oh, I don't look good'd edit I don't think I'll post it and I was like if Alona were here right now she'd say post it so I posted it and it obviously like it's just that what it is today it's in the dictionary it's so exciting I get to make food content what did you just tell us you're something I learned I am a maybe I'm gonna pronounce it it wrong though that's dumb but i'm a neologist neologist yeah neologist how do you spell it word birdie over there yeah big word over here what about master's degree over there n-e-o-l-o neologist yeah yeah so that's someone that um invents or creates new words or phrases um and you're especially that if it is then in the dictionary, which.

I'm putting that in dating profiles.

That's. Yeah.

Up there.

It's on my resume.

For sure. I mean, I have a resume right now.

I'm like, sorry, I'm trying to take you from me.

If I did.

For those that don't know, Olivia is my manager as well.

Right. So she is my top employee.

Employee of the month.

Employee of the month every month for the past year.

Now my Christmas gift, I kept saying was an employee appreciation like it's one of my benefits packet she does that for me and she handles like all my emails and she does so much for me allowing me to do my best on the pitch and whatever but now she's gotten like offers to go i think you possibly had offered to go to hong kong sevens hong kong sevens which is so exciting because that's just for me and the audience that I've built and the content that I make. It's not, you know, I obviously have a large rugby following.
I mean, that is because I travel the world watching you play, but it's not attached to you. It's just me.
It's an offer for me to go and experience and capture the weekend. And I'm like, I would love that.
I've never been to Hong Kong. So hopefully that works out.
I've done a lot of work with Cherry Bomb Magazine, which we all just were the cover stars for. Cover Girls.
Cover Girls, which is our first ever magazine cover together, which is so special that it's at home at Cherry Bomb, which is. Also my first magazine ever that I've been a part of.
Right, right, right. Oh, right.
Really went from zero to 100. Right.
Thank you, guys. And I mean, they have their event up in April, their annual Jubilee celebration, which I'll be going to in New York City.
And it's just so exciting to be in spaces full of women in that way. I mean, always on my vision, I make a vision board at the beginning of every year and it's the background on my laptop and it's the background on my phone.
So you're always like seeing what you're working towards. And I always have like a little portion that's about events and I want to go to more things and meet people and, you know, I guess networking, but also just like making connections.
And the Cherry Bomb events, like Jubilee is unbelievably cool, powerful, incredible women in the culinary and media space in one room talking, just being themselves. And yet it's so inspirational.
It's just women. It's again, it's a, it's a space of female enjoyment and just being like, look at it, like how much farther we can all get when we work together.
I'm emotional. Like I'm on the edge of tears the entire time.
And it's essentially a conference, you know, with delicious food and Bev in New York city. So I have that coming up and I'm just loving it.
I just, I'm, I'm proud of myself for putting myself more out there. It wasn't a quick process.
I learned from you, but I'm still getting better about it and just putting it out there, but truly just realizing you can't do it unless you do it. So do what you got to do.
It's like everything you want is maybe it's on the other side of like being cringe or embarrassment, right? And the only people that are going to judge me are the ones that are, they could be doing what i'm doing and don't have the the balls to the massive cojones in your case i still have that little voice in my mind i've always like someone from high school could see this and i'm like who cares who cares i don't see them right you're fine it doesn't matter yeah get past that because's holding you back. What's that thing that's like the people that matter won't mind and the people that mind don't matter? Boom.
Mars. Stay there.
Write that down. Write that down, folks.
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