Alan Bersten & Emma Slater: DWTS Finale, Hard Launch & Holiday Traditions

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Alan, do you walk on the outside of the road? That's another conversation we just had.

You did have this conversation, but Jeff, my dog Jeff, can only walk on my left side so that's like i always like we'll be walking and i always have to shift her to the outside to protect jeff

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Christmas is right around the corner. So we're going to get, we got a little holiday themed here as well.
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We're feeling the spirit. Hang on to your jingle bells, y'all.
Some of our favorite members of the Marr family are joining us today.

Not one, but two Dancing with the Stars Mirror Ball champions are in the house.

They aren't only phenomenal dancers, but incredible teachers that have a unique ability to connect with every partner and turn their journey into something truly extraordinary. I would know.

They are legendary choreographers, they are in love, and they are some of my favorite people on the planet. Please welcome Alan Burston and Emma Slater.

Thank you. That was lovely.

I took me all night to write it. Yeah.

Yep, Mirabella.

Fun fact, Emma's hilarious. So we're going to get a little bit more of that.

This is recorded before the finale.

Alan is going in to prep for it later today. Emma's going to be part of it as well.

You have the all sorts of dances, and you're part of Alan's dance, kind of like mine last year. So we'll see what happens.
How are you feeling? Double finale. Double finale, back-to-back.
Wow. What?

Look at that. Okay.
Couldn't do it without my girl. No, for real.
For real. Two girls.
Two girls.

No.

No, honestly. It's so fun.
You know how stressful it is, but like for some reason, this season is just like, oh, we made the finale. Just enjoy it.
Yeah. You know?

I had a stress dream last night that I was going for camera blocking. Tell us about it.
What happened? I thought, I don't know, but because this was ending, like, we're going to stop at noon for this.

And I was like, and then I I got to be at TV City at 1230 to block. And then we're blocking this other thing because I think I'm seeing so many posts.

And it's taking me back to how much this week was last year. Cause there's so much.
And the final dances are such a creative thing for you guys, too.

Anyway, I got, I did wake up sweating, but I'm okay now. Because the finale is three hours long.
It's three hours long. And this year they made it.
a little bit harder.

They're doing instant dance in the finale, which is so we got the freestyle, which is our biggest, our last one. We have one that that we haven't done yet the rumba

which is my favorite yeah

that's a good one so that one made it with emma in the room it made it a lot easier to yeah manage because i'm not as you feminine as you think don't look don't look at my shirt

i i i taught you well but i remember for our rumba last year for the beginning part you know when i'd just stand there and then i was like um

maybe we could bring like emma in and she could like do something because i genuinely was just standing there for like I'd say an eight count if not more and then you came in and you just had to do slight movements and I was like, oh

it was it was my way, right? Yes, it was

that dance. It was so good for you.
Everybody always like goes in thinking, oh, I'm going to hate the rumbuck, but actually once they've done it, they're like, oh, I like it.

That's why I saved it for the finale.

Yeah, good job.

But then we have the instant dance, which is, we have to prepare four dances and then you don't know which one you do until it's live. Jesus.
Stressed. Stressed.
For real.

You guys did that at Halloween. Was that what that was? Yeah, no, no, no.

Oh,

500th. Oh.

Good lord. But it was amazing.
It turned out good.

The last lips were

sausage. Oh, I remember.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We did lifts, and I was like,

we didn't need to do that, but it's okay.

We're like, that's okay.

Anywho. We're going to go and touch some grass.
You can get a little wrapped up in holiday stress, am I right?

This will be our reminder to stay off the naughty list and let's touch some grass. I like that.
Shout out to the elves at Perplexity for sponsoring this segment. So we wanted to talk about today.

Alona recently had a restaurant experience where she had a reservation. She went and she spent a good amount of money.
And then at the, what, the 90-minute mark? Two, two-hour mark.

And I was there for a bit, but then they come in and they tell you, you got to leave, which I think Emma... As a European, as a cool cultured woman yourself, you probably don't like.

No, and I saw your post and I think I responded to you. I actually responded about the food, but

I really want to go there. That was my response.
But what the hell? It was really good. The food was good.
And like, we were just enjoying. I think Americans are so quick with how they eat.

You know, they go in. I mean, we had a table who wasn't there when we got there.
They got in, had their meal, and then left before we even left.

So people are about eating in America instead of like sitting and enjoying. Yeah.
Well, we went to dinner the other night. We had a reservation at eight.
And like, we got there at eight.

They're like, it's going to take 20 minutes. I'm like, why did we make a reservation? Yes.
Why didn't we make a reservation?

So it is interesting. It's like a very, we're passing people through, trying to get it in, which I don't know if like, if that was crazy for you or different for you coming from England.
Yes.

And definitely when my parents come and visit too, they are perplexed by that whole thing. Like sitting down and rushing.
We normally take like hours in Europe, especially for dinner.

And then we'll have like even coffee afterwards and that keeps you up and you start talking and it can take like three hours.

But over here, if you've got like someone looking at the watch, it's kind of like, well, we, you know, don't you want to digest yourself? Exactly.

And they always tell you they're going to course it out. And they're like, because you like, we want to order slowly because Americans will just, you know, purchase you.

Like, oh, we course it out. No, they don't.
They go. Yeah.
Boom. They fire it up.
I like when it all comes out.

Don't course it off. Bring it out.

In fact, they don't take my time. I will say, there are like memes online.
The service in Europe is pretty funny. Oh, terrible, for sure.
Yeah, derivative.

And that's why it takes so long because they forget about you. I know.
And you're like, please. Hey, hey, hey.
No, okay. Yeah, yeah.
It's broken. The bill?

Anybody? We did like... It's an art form.
Yeah, it was. By the way, it's an art form.
Bill is an American word. In Europe, it's Czech.
Is it Czech?

Because when I got here and people started saying, can I get the bill? I was like, what are you going to do?

Where's the bill? What's that? I really didn't know because we heard that the the note is a dollar bill. So I was like, can I get the bill? And I'm like, are you asking for money? I got so confused.

But then also in Europe, check is like a check. So it's like, we need to rewrite this.
It feels weird to me. Language barrier.
Yeah. Feels weird.

I will also say, like, we were also at a place where they're like, do you have a reservation? We were like, oh, no. You know, and when you do have a reservation, you feel on top of the world.
Yes.

When you don't, you're like, come on, come on, arbitrary system.

Who even needs it? But then you feel like a god when you do have one at a place.

that's what we were talking about yesterday but because we didn't have one we almost felt like second second rate citizen they were like we've got spots and maybe the bathroom for you if you want like you can i'm just getting

but you know i think we went to a sushi spot once the one in silver lake uh-huh which i love we went there they're like oh we don't do like we're at the Matri Dean, whatever it is.

They're like, oh no, we don't have any rooms for walk-ins. I literally went on my phone and got a reservation for that minute.

Yeah, so I went to the bathroom.

I went to the the bathroom. I came out.
He was like, our table's going to be ready in five minutes.

Wait, wait, wait, how does this work? What is the problem? Like, why are we losing human-to-human communication?

We got to get on the, like, and I think the holidays are about slowing down and enjoying the people around you and not being rushed out to the next thing. Like, that's not sexy.
That's not cozy.

That's not.

Do you find Emma bar culture different?

You know, in England, like, we found this, just going to a bar, having a drink, it's very chill, I think, in a way, whereas it's almost more of a production here.

i don't know if your parents have like the pub they go to or whatnot but it's a different i would say culturally even between yeah so i lived in london and of course like there's bars and pubs on every corner and you walk everywhere like you don't drive so you walk past and after work it is very much a thing that you go out for a drink and it there's just like a way of life and i've not really thought about that until you just said it when over here you have to like plan and like get an uber or you know if you're not drinking drive or whatever it is like like you have to like really plan it and and that's what i feel is different whereas i used to like come off stage in at home in london and then we'd just always go to the pub for one or two after every single show like go get a beer and it was fun you like socialized and then you'd get the tube because the tube was open until like you know 12 30 or something nice

to do that though did my show for mixology oh okay so dancing with the stars go on so years ago way before COVID, after the show, do you remember there was at the Grove, there used to be a place called Mixology?

I believe you. We're going to be.
It shut down.

And they would like host us, and everyone would go. All of the dancers, all the producers, all the celebrities.
Everything was free. They would air the LA version and everyone would just hang out.

What? And yeah. But they stopped that.
Yeah, and it was really great. I missed those times.
And I also like it when we go on tour and we get to do that too.

But, I mean, it's a little bit different now because the show is so popular. So, you know, we might have to show you.
We can't go anywhere. No, it's not that.

But seriously, you know, you seriously can on tour. I can't even walk down the street.

If you're in a casino,

it's a little bit more because everybody who goes to see the show is kind of in the casinos. That's how they abandon it.
No, I think it's when we're on tour. People know we're there.
Yeah.

They're like looking for us, which is great. Like, we don't have any problem saying hi to everyone.
But But it's just like when they're like, oh, Dancing with the Stars is here. Let's find them.

Oh, yeah, excuse me. Yeah, we just want to go and have a beer.
They find us. They find us.
They follow that little, the dog prince.

They spell Alan's cologne in the

Alan's pitch. This way.

But I also think, I was going to say, LA, I feel like, is so different than the rest of America. I feel like in New York, people just go to bars all the time.
Definitely.

A big spectacle. Yeah.
You know, here it's like,

I feel like clubs are bigger in LA than

I think New York is a special case like London because there is public transport in the way. Everything's on the corner.
You can have a sense of community. You can walk everywhere.

Yeah. You're good.
You're not walking in New York. You're not driving or worrying about drinking and all that.
But turning tables over is on my naughty list. Naughty list.

Should be like turning tables over with me. That's in America in like turning tables is like turning this over.
Oh,

restaurant. All right.

I was like, did you get drunk and dumb and tell the road over here.

We were like, wait, what? Wait, what?

Right. Turning over tables too fast is on my naughty list.
Giving coal to every restaurant that does that. Now, perplexity.
What's the origin of giving coal to people on the naughty list?

The tradition of giving coal to people on the naughty list originates from the European folklore and has evolved over centuries as a way to symbolically warn and encourage better behavior in children.

The practice is associated with figures like St. Nicholas, Sinterklaas, Italy's La Bifana.
Never heard of them. Hey.
And even the Germanic Krampus. We know Sinterklass.
We're deeply familiar.

I ain't never got coal, though. I've never gotten coal.
I'm too good. I don't know if any of us.
We never heard of that. I don't know how parents would do that for us.
They probably wouldn't do that.

I don't think we were threatened either. We were pretty good kids.
Sinterklass visits Dutch children. Yes.

And you put your shoe out, put your wooden clogs by the fireplace. And it's actually like a couple weeks before Christmas.
And he comes and leaves you treats.

And you get these paper notches, which is this like sort of like a gingerbread

cookie thing. The drops.

So you get those. And then in our family, we get

chocolate letters. So like I would get a chocolate A, chocolate O, chocolate I, and then our family from the Netherlands would actually like ship it over to us.
Yeah, we could have it.

You get a chocolate initial. When's that? December 5th? I think it's December 7th or 9th.
6th or something like that. It's from the 5th to the 9th.
We gotta figure that out.

I think it might be the 5th. Sorry to our Dutch relatives.
Who knows? But happy, happy Centerclass Day. Hope you guys don't get coal

in your shoes. Thanks, Perplexity.
Thank you. Tea time.
Tea time is where we spill the tea. Oh.

I think it was British because

Emma does drink a lot of tea. A lot of tea.
Emma's coming into the studio. She's getting a tea.
Emma's coming in to help. She has a tea in her hand.

I'm just going to say, Emma drinks tea like a British person with milk in it. Yeah.

That isn't that. That's the weirdest thing that you've just said.

Black tea has milk in it. it.
I agree. We do that.
We do that. We drink with milk.

No, I think that you're overruled here.

You're underruled.

And you know how, like, in England, if you come in, people will say, do you want a cuppa? It's just a regular thing. And they mean a cup of tea.
They chain drink.

So once it's done, it's like, it's not like

chain drink. Oh, chain drink.
What did I say?

You said chain. You said chain.
Yeah. Let's cocktail brothers' cup.
It's all

drinks tea the right way with milk in it. There it is.

Good job, Alan. And you're training Emma.

Well trained. My favorite is she likes 2% milk.
And obviously, if they don't have 2% milk, you take skim milk and mix it with whole milk. Hell yeah, you do that for her? No.

I just go, but you know,

I just told him to carry my bag, so we're making progress. Now my knee hurts.

Alan, do you walk on the outside of the road? That's another conversation we just had.

We did have this conversation, but Jeff, my dog Jeff, can only walk on my left side.

So that's how he was trained. Oh, okay.
Like, for some reason, I have to hold the leash in my left hand. Well, that's, you know why that is?

It's because, I mean, I don't know if you're going to cut this out, but if you have a gun, you have it in your voice.

Hey, there you go. Hey, he's going to walk.

You're a dog's dog. And then you got your gun.
Yeah, that makes sense.

My little baby dog. Brussels grip on it and a pistol.

So that's like,

we'll be walking and I always have to shift her to the outside to protect Jeff.

So I'm against the road. Yeah, that's right.

Sometimes it happens that she is on the inside and I'm protecting.

If you're at a restaurant and there's a booth, are you sitting in the booth? Yeah, all the time. To protect.
No, no, my back is to the door.

But that's what it should be.

No, no, it's not. My back is to the door so I can see if an intruder comes in.
No, no, wrong. You're supposed to put yourself in between.
Yeah, you're supposed to put yourself in between. What? Yeah.

How am I going to protect you? You're trapped in the booth. Well, she wants to go first.
That's the problem. She gets time to get away.
So we're living in a society where men and women are.

Oh, are we living in a society?

Are we? Alan's sliding into the booth

every single time. Every single time.
Okay, okay. Let's just admit one thing.
I open the door for Emma every single time. Nice.

Everybody clap. Alan needs that door.

Our door as well. Wow.
No, that's awesome. That's a woman above and beyond.
And you help her a lot.

If she's like on stairs and stuff,

I've seen that. I think so.
Yeah. I think

cost is probably the only thing I come out of. But also,

fair enough. But also, I would like to very much point out

that when we're sleeping, I'm closest to the door. Okay.

Yeah. Again, to protect.
I guess.

Protect.

Jeff.

Protected behind the door. In the middle.
Of course. Okay.

How did we get on that tangent? I don't even remember.

Alan.

We talked about it a little bit. Alan is into the final.

After that, I guess. Wrap it up.

How has it been this season for you? We'll talk about Alan's season, and then I need to hear about Emma's. How has it been? I mean, you, I think, what a great partner to have, also off the back of me.

But like, such a great partner. And I was excited for you to get Elaine because she also is such a great dancer.

So the performances you've been able to create and how you've been able to choreograph these like moments. How's it been? Thanks.
It's been a lot of fun.

I think, you know, every season is so different for us, especially getting a, you know, having somebody like you who was a social media phenomenon. A feminine phenomenon, if you will.

And like, I think you really changed the game for the show in general. Like everyone, I know everyone's been doing social media, but like we really made that the forefront of the season

last year.

And so I think this year, like going into it, I was like, okay, obviously, Elaine, you're a great dancer and we're able to do some awesome things, but it's so important to get the personality out there.

Yeah. And I know you mentioned, you messaged me so many times and you were like, don't just do trends, like really talk to the camera so people get to know you as well, which I have not done.

Yeah, I was like, he's not great at that oh yeah

i was like i'm a what is that i'm a little shy believe it or not i'm an introverted extrovert well it was so funny i went into the studio with alan and elaine and and i had a tick tock idea and it was like alan i were back in the studio crafting i was like okay i'll come out of the door he's like perfect okay and then i'm gonna be here and then elaine said something and you're like

We can try that, Elaine.

It was like Alan and I were back again kind of crafting and cooling and like cooking in there.

And I think that what was, that was so fun to have somebody who's ready to do the TikToks, which I think, Emma, is what's been so good about your season is I say this to everybody.

I think your content has been the most original out of the whole cast. Engaging,

engaging, original. And the way that you've been able to put Andy out there, I mean, it was.
It was all you. So tell me about that and how you've now, you're now, I would say, a content mastermind.

Oh, my gosh. Thank you.
That means a lot because I love your content. And I think that you have like the perfect blend of original.
And I think what Alan said was accurate.

I watched your social media and one specific thing that you said in your season was that just post it. Even if you think it'll work or it won't.

This season with Andy, he had a TikTok, but he had 12 followers. We counted.
We saw what we saw. I didn't even know he was on a TikTok.

I said, did you have a TikTok? He was like, I don't use it. He didn't post anything.
He had 12 followers and he said, oh, they're all bots, which is like kind of weird.

12 is a strange thing. It's strange enough.
But now he has like, I didn't look for the latest, but it's over a hundred thousand.

And he was game for everything. I mean, he makes funny skits.
That's what he does. He's a comedian.
He's used to doing these videos and filming things live.

And he's funnier than I could ever direct him. And I love to direct.
Like I would always come up with these social media ideas. It's really fun for me.

And that's the only way I could do it because if it was, if it felt like work, I just would never do it.

But if it was fun and funny, which is like my favorite thing, like just basically as a kid, I used to like play around with my friends and do acting skits.

And with Andy, it was like, oh my God, it's awesome. We can do the same thing.
I would just tell him, oh, come in here. And I wouldn't even need to say anything else.
He would just.

pick up my bags, put my glasses on. Like the whole skit of him coming in after every week being safe, like he was so game.
He would ask for more bags.

He wore the same glasses every every time. He would pull these faces and it was just like magic.
And I loved it so much. It was awesome.
He's incredible. I have him in my freestyle.
Do you really?

That's so good. So obviously this is, we're filming this before the freestyle, but

we're doing like old Hollywood and Andy's the director.

And we're doing like chorus line. And he yells, cut, cut, and he goes on the whole tangent.
Oh my God. And it's amazing.
I told him about it. He sent Emma a photo.

He's like, I need to be dressed like this.

It's like

a vintage director with the hat the beret the scarf he's got like boots the pants

he's like i'm i need to go big i need that i'm like yes you do

he likes to go big with like the big with you know moments and funny characters yeah he's hilarious yeah he is and his favorite thing was when we ripped off the shirt in the relay dance that was he just loved that that was so good

because i see they are constantly ripping shirts

and i i honestly i would have loved it if it was andy's actual body but i love that you decided to use this shirt and and whatever.

I think it's just the way that you guys are able to do it, like Elaine's hat that you use, and then the other things you're using in the dance.

Emma, I think you put such moments to it to like Hosier's yell when you have him like... Carry, hold the camera.
Did I say right? Hosier's Hosier.

How do you even choreograph those? And when you get your partner, do you kind of start to think about them and almost do research on little things?

Or is it as you're going week to week, getting to know them more, you can choreograph better? I definitely think it's that.

I think like for me personally, I love to find the genuine aspects about my partner. And sometimes that is humor.
I lean definitely more towards humor.

But then on the flip side, I really like to be to have moments that are vulnerable and sincere and go there.

And with the Hoshi's Yell, I remember I was in my car speaking to Mark Ballas, and we were just talking about something at this promo photo shoot. And then...

Northern Attitude came on, which is that song. And they had already told me, the producer told me, oh, TikTok week is coming up.
Have a think about what you want to do.

This is before the show even started.

So I was thinking, Andy and TikTok, like, what can we do? Because it's kind of a, it's a, it's now I know it's a good marriage, but it's kind of like a tricky marriage between the two.

And then Hosher's Yell came on, and I remember looking at the radio thinking, that's it, that's what I want to do.

And I wanted the Hosher's Yell moment to be a moment of him feeling like, wow, this is my moment here. And the camera thing just came in.

Initially, I wanted, you know, the Titanic when they held hands and they run. I wanted like that kind of moment, but it ended up being slower with the camera just because the camera's capabilities.

That's Ronnie. Shout out, Ronnie, on Steady Cam.
And he just held the camera. And when he did it in the dress rehearsal, I was like, that's it.
Like, that's the moment.

And it ended up working really well.

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I don't know if the words like fade the back, but you kind of just really put them up front, your pros.

Like for most of it, Elaine, when she was just there up at the top, and then the, the, with just Andy in the camera, you guys are really so okay with just being in the background and not being noticed at times.

Like, I think that's really what the way that you highlighted me at many dances by putting me up there, I think is really why your pros do pretty well.

Cause I don't think anyone would have thought Andy had gone this far. But what you did for him and for like the his image was amazing.
Thank you. I'm totally okay, the background.

I think both of you are, yeah. I also think we work really well together in

very opposite ways.

In the way of like, Emma is phenomenal with moments.

Like when I choreograph, I over choreograph all the time. And she's like, oh, you should take this out for a second.
I'm like, yes, thank you.

But I like that. Yeah, but I'm also going to take a little credit.
Hey, I love the funny moments. Yeah.
And sometimes I don't do them all.

But like with Andy and Emma, I'll tell them, like, you got to do this. Oh, here's the shirt repository, by the way, was his idea.
What about you?

Also, I think week two, I was like, you have to do It's Raining Men. Like, I don't know.
For one hit wonders, I was like, oh, you have to do It's Raining Men. Yeah.
Like, it's perfect.

No, I mean, if you ever had an Andy, if you. I would love to dance with Andy.
Andy, it's not sweet. Also, he kissed me.

I will say that's the second time. That was the second time they kissed.
You kissed in the studio as well. Were you there? I was there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, hey.
And I was like, well,

I don't think that was the first time we kissed her. It wasn't the first time we kissed.
No. Honestly, I go into the room to kiss Emma, and Andy's like, what about me? And one day I was like, fine.

And then you kiss her.

And then he

cleansed it by going back to kissing Emma.

He was like, oh. And then kiss them again.
But you have to give yourself more credit because

we do work really well together because sometimes I go into the studio and Alan picks choreography that's really so much different than I would pick.

And I look at it and I go, wow, I would never do that. But that is so amazing.
And

I love his point of view because he always choreographs really, really, really well for his partners.

And sometimes I tell him, hey, you can flourish more here because, like you said, he puts his partners like front and center. And whatever he gives them, he always makes really good choices.

and I admire that so much it's very like dance and he he knows how to teach them except for Halloween week with you

biggest regret of my life

my regret wasn't the dancing or anything that we did I we I should have just chose a different dance really

we knew we were both gonna be flipping each other but

no it was also like the music sometimes I like trust the system too much I'm like, oh, it doesn't matter what song we do as long as we do a good job. Music matters so much.

And I'm really starting to realize that more and more.

Because like even this year with Elaine, we did a tango to Cat's Eye Gnarly,

which the tango was

amazing. Yeah.
But like everyone online is like, oh, this isn't a tango song. And then when you think about it, I'm like, yeah, the song was really, really hard to query or

it didn't amplify the dance where I'm like, oh, I should have just like chose a different song. But it was TikTok night and that was hard night.
Yeah.

Also, I was gonna say earlier when you're talking about Andy and TikTok, I think the biggest surprise about Andy was learning how many incredible movies he's in that you don't realize voice in Madagascar.

Oh, yeah, Talladega Knights, he's in Talladega Knights, he's in Scary Movie 2.

He's in Blades of Glory.

He's in our favorite Minute Manhattan, which is the one with the Olson Twins. Yeah, York Minute, New York Minute, right? Manhattan Minute or something like that.
He's in one with the Olson Twins.

We love him. He's a bad guy.

We were doing a funny TikTok about

Semi-Pro, that Will Farrell movie. He was like, I'm in this.
We could have seen it. We're like, oh my God, it is you.
It's like, he's in all

incredible funny movies. So it was just fun to see that.
You could have done so many TikToks where I'm like, I know, we could have done. But

that's an original content.

Also, I'm going to work as a social media manager for Andy after this because he's like, I really need, I want to continue. And I was like, I got you.
I'm going to send you stuff all the time.

Send that bill, Emma. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Invoice and that money, okay, boys.

I think what she did really good is what you did really good for us we didn't do a lot of dance trends i never i see that and i i'm gonna talk about that yeah speak on when people be doing dance trends on dance bizarre so you're telling me you had to learn two dances you also learned a tick tock dance

couldn't be me i think i only did like two or something it had to be the simplest ones i wasn't about to learn another dance if i had to i can't add that to my brain

so whenever i see these guys doing tick tock dances i'm like all right get out of here you dancers No, but I think that's what makes you, you, and like, what made Emma and Andy so special is that it was that original content.

Sometimes they did trends, but it was more of like personality. I think so.

You, when was Emma came in, I would say really helped with the rumba. Yeah.
She came at the beginning there, helped there. And I think what was interesting is

I come from a sport that's not like.

you know, it's fighting, it's battling it out.

And then there's these moments in dance that Emma could really help with so like at the beginning of the rumba how do how do i make this like um graceful and central and so she would teach me how to move and whatnot and then

i say funny for the halloween dance remember at the end where i come up and i like choke alan at the beginning of it i was just like and then emma's like you need to get in there get in there i need you to get in there okay

i'm choking alan like this right on i know your faces need to be like you need to get in there so it's a funny way of of how you have to like how you help and you kind of helped me to get into that dancer zone she also really helped in the paso and the vinies watch well and i was getting into that and then she really started to get in there because you know once alan and i we were spending a lot of time together and he was pissing me off

so then emma would come in and we had to learn dances so quick and it's very hard to learn a dance when it's Alan also teaching the girl part. So then we'd have Emma in.

I was pretty good at the girl part. No, he was great at the girl part.

But we'd have Emma come in. And so she, what was the week before? Quickstep.
Quickstep.

I didn't, I did. Not as much for quick step, quick step.
But for she was there for Passo and Viennese Waltz

because those were our favorite dance, one of the best, some of the best dancers.

But she was there helping me every moment because it's so different to see a woman do it as well. And I could see how they mesh.

And then when I would do it with Alan, she'd be like, oh, change it up a little bit.

Also, dancing is really, you know, it's all about feeling, but it's hard for you to envision what it looks like unless you see somebody do it. Yeah.

Like where I'm like, oh, just do it like this is one thing. But then if you see Emma and I doing it, you're like, oh, now I know what it's supposed to look like.
I can do it.

Yeah. And honestly, when Alan would come into my rehearsals and my partners would see a man doing it, it would click differently for them.
They would see it and go, oh, I can relate to that.

And they would have all kinds of insights that it doesn't matter how many times I might have even said the same thing, it won't click the same way than if they see somebody do it.

Yeah, and sometimes, like, when you're with somebody for so long and they say something, you kind of just say, yeah, I get it. But then somebody else says the exact same thing.
Like, oh my God.

And then the original partner's like, huh, why didn't you get it when I said that? This is where we take it back to therapy.

Like, why didn't I ever think about that?

Yeah. And Emma's like, I said that.
I remember you changing some moves for me too. You're like, why are you having her do that?

And then Emma would change it. And I was like, Emma, this was really much easier.
Thank you so much.

Sometimes, like, there's so many choices. And that's the thing.
Dancing at the end of the day, yeah, there's a technique to it, but it's still subjective, if that's the right way to say it.

It's an art. So you can change it to a plethora of different things that feel good for you.

And when you find the one that works, it's like, oh, that's so much better than trying to force something that doesn't work. And that's the same for Elaine, too.
You know, she has a rumpa this week.

Well, by the time we're recording this, she has a rumpa this week.

And some moves like fit fantastic for her and some moves you can tell that she's unsure about that she has to force and then you just switch it out for the right formula and then you have the dance.

So are you still helping with Elaine the way that you helped Alona? Are you in there?

Well, since I got eliminated, it was harder because Emma made it so far. When you're in it, there's like we still go into each other's room and like try to help, but you don't have a lot of time.

Oh, there was one week this year where I said,

I love you. I'm just, I need all of your hours today.
Do you remember? It was for the salsa and I was freaking out. I had no choreography.
And it was the day, it was a Wednesday.

So he has like full rehearsal with Elaine. I have rehearsal with Andy later on.
And I said, I need your hours. Like, I need you to help me.
And you did. Bless your heart.

And my big problem is, like, very superstitious. So I rarely prep beforehand.
So every Wednesday I'm waking up at 7 a.m. to like practice.
Yeah, yeah. I hard to prep it.

I'm like, oh, why do I make these decisions?

But yeah, no, I, to me, it's like, I'll gladly help, especially at the studio, something that I'm good at. But, you know,

it's so time consuming that it's nice to have somebody that's going through it because they understand it. But at the same time, it's like, when one person's eliminated, it makes it so much easier.

Yeah.

Keep going, babe. Keep going.

Were you always so ready to help, or was there a time where it was like seeing each other as competitors?

Well, what's funny is like in week five or four, I'm was like, whenever I go home, I'll be ready to help you. And I'm looking, I'm like, you're not going home.
Yeah, right.

If you have you open TikTok, everyone's like, we're voting for Andy, voting for Andy. I was like, I'm not going to get any help this season.

I was like, I'm going to help you this season.

Well, no, it was honestly at the beginning of the season, you know, people were like, oh, it's probably Andy's week. Like, yeah, they're probably going to go home.

Then when it kind of got momentum, the narrative shifted a little bit. But I'm like totally ready to help it.
Whether I'm in the show or not, I'm always ready to help.

The funniest, yes, and I'm always ready to help.

The funniest meme, though, is there was like week eight. This one? Week seven.
They made, you know, the Grim Reaper, like going through the doors. Yeah.

They made it where every door had the past, the eliminated celebrities, and Andy walking as the Grim Reaper. It was hilarious.

Cutting them all down. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. But it was, it was great.
But yeah. I feel like, I feel like, um, I feel like everybody on the show has such a collaborative supportive atmosphere about them.

Like it's become really wholesome, which was crazy because I don't want to dwell on it too much, but there was like an article that came out that was like, oh, toxic energy in Dancing with the Stars.

And it's like

not be further from the truth. A lot of these articles are so wrong.

Oh my gosh. When she got eliminated, there was like an article, Alan and Emma are fighting.
Oh, in the hallway? Yeah.

And apparently, did you see that?

I didn't even see it. My mom was like, are you guys fighting? I was like, what? What? Apparently some crew person

had witnessed it and

it literally did never happen. What's funny is the video they use of like walking to the studio was the day after she got eliminated to help me.

Right. And I was like, you guys are like, if you're going to use a video, at least don't make it like where she's helping you.
Yeah. Is that the one where you're like walking in a little serious?

Yeah. And she's like, that's the best you ever looked.
She's like, stop smiling. The comments were going crazy.
Yes. Okay, okay, okay.

We do have to talk about this. I've said to Alan, I said, you know what? You could, you know, switch, switch out your usual expression a little bit.

You cannot smile, Alan.

Not all the time.

Okay, when he chooses to be like in the moment and serious and sincere and kind of like, you know, just like still with the moment, I think it's the sexiest thing in the world.

Like sometimes when he comes in and he's just real and he's a bit mean and mad, I'm like,

and then he smiles. He's like,

damn it. I'm going to say America is a little messed up this season.
I've noticed a few things this season. But you get it, right? Be real.
Did that alien do things for you?

Because the TikTokers loved him as the alien. There's three moments this season.
She goes, yes. Alien?

I would have grabbed those antenna.

I would also like to point out I had to make him smaller. Like, that was an actual music.
No, that wasn't actually. No, that's good.
You had to make them smaller. Yeah, because I couldn't put on.

Yeah. It was cold inside.
Right.

Yeah, right. Three things this season that I was like, you people are messed up.
Alien Allen was the hottest Alan, apparently.

Well, until

hospital.

Until Elaine was in the hospital

standing there with him. Oh, and you're crying.
With scars. This is Alan.
And people are like, hugging himself. Hugging himself.

All the comments were like, I know Elaine's in the hospital, but is this a good time to talk about Alan and his scars? I'm like, what is wrong with you people? I loved it. I love it.

People are like, oh, he's hot. I'm like, yeah, he's hot.
Yeah, he is.

Yeah. What's funny? Well, it's not funny, but when Elaine went to the hospital, I went there with her, and I had all these scars on me.
People in the hospital are like, are you okay?

Yeah, what do you mean? I'm good. I forgot that I had it on.
Yeah. What was the third one? The third one was me angry in the morning, walking, chewing gum, not smiling.

And everyone's like, he's never looked better. You were very model off duty.
You were very

model off duty. You were sauntering.
I saw it. It was like such a zoomed-in too.
I was like, oh, no, look at this. Well, I send them to Alan or and Emma.

So I'll send fan edits to Emma of her boyfriend.

She sends me all of the fan edits. It's amazing.
And every time I'm like, I love you.

You guys got to check this. Emma, look at your man.

And I'm in the comments. People are like, you know what's funny? Somebody was like,

can Emma fight? And I said, yes, I can. And then someone wrote, but can she fight all of us? And I was like, I'm going to bring Alona.

And I'm there.

You guys have built a beautiful working partnership the way you help one another how is that translated you do a very interesting job together and now you're in a relationship how does that play out in the rest of your life it goes really well i know it's like

sometimes people like oh you want to keep work and life separate which emma really tries to do as well like she's really important about like when we're at home let's try not to talk about work too much but then she brings it up

but no

yes but it's you know it's that work-life balance. But when you're going through something

simultaneously together, even though it's not together, it's nice to know that like we can support each other and like

you know exactly what that other person is going through. Yeah.
So it kind of helps our relationship. I think what really helps our relationship, and I'll give Emma the credit on this one.

She, communication is so, so important. She really wants me to talk about my feelings, which I do.
I'm a very vulnerable person.

I'm a very vulnerable person. Like, I just sometimes like was grown, I grew up of like,

just move past it. I'm fine.
Like, I don't need to talk about it. And she is, Emma's really good at like, let's talk about it and, you know, get through it, which I love doing.
I love talking.

I was just about to say, he's really good at communication. And

so that's like key for me.

And I know that I love to talk about it too. You know, when you get mad or something, are you the type of person that needs to talk about it straight away or do you need a second?

Because I'm the type of person I'm like, let's talk about it now. And she's like, I need to process it and then we can talk about it.
Chew on it and then unpack it. Which is amazing.

Like, I truly understand it. The biggest thing I learned is that men like to try to solve things and women just like to talk.
Yep. In just one event.
Oh, yeah.

What do you ask me now? I'm like, do you want me to help you or do you want me to just listen? Smart. My name's Alice.

And I'll tell him most of the time, I just want you to listen.

I'll still try to fix it. I'm like, shut up.
Give me the model face. I just want you to look at it.
Can you look angry?

Look angry. It's my list.
But no, it's communication.

And she is the reason I'm getting better and more patient with everything. Because I'm like, oh, I don't need to just jump in and try to fix things.
Let's just take a second and process.

And he's the reason I'm apologizing more because I'm quite stubborn.

No, don't.

Yes.

I know that.

It's just,

yeah. You know, but it's, it's not even stubborn.
It's opinionated in the best way. Like, obviously, I love how opinionated you are.
And like, you care about things and you're passionate.

I don't think I would like it if. It was just like pushover or like whatever you want.
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Discover fast and reliable search with perplexities today. Can you talk us through when you guys announced your relationship?

Because I've heard a certain story from Alona about the kiss on stage and how she encouraged her. She was like, you got to just kiss her on stage, dude.

Yeah. So I was in the wings because I was on tour for like, you know, five days.

But I was in the wings and I went up to Alan.

I was like, Alan, you know what you got to do i think on your last night is you got to kiss emma i don't know if it i think i was i liked when you guys did the i think it was hotel california one it was like really special one and you were dancing really beautifully around each other but i love how you did it how what made you decide to do it in that dance and that night and we also when we were watching that tick tock we could kind of notice you looked a little nervous yeah

tell us about it talk us through it i had no idea that he was gonna do it until that day yeah i was like is it okay if i kiss you because like we keep things private yeah you know and that was the well you well actually he did ask but he but it was more like i want to kiss you yeah it was more like i'm going to kiss you are you okay with it yeah and i and at first i was like

this is a lot to think about i let me think about it and then and then i was like during the dance i was like we're doing it and then i did it and we were both oh god we did it yeah yeah yeah okay

and then we did the next bit of choreography like super early did you really

And the choreographer was in the audience, Mandy Moore, who's amazing. She's in the audience and she's watching.

She was so happy. Like she, of course, like she

was happy for the moment. And then I think we went early because everybody started screaming and the adrenaline was going.
Right. It was just really funny.
But I was like, I don't know.

It was like, we spent this whole tour together. It was amazing.

There's a difference when you make the relationship public.

You know, it makes it so real. Yeah.
And I think we needed to do that. I needed that.
I needed it too. Like, it really just makes it real.

And, like, you know, I want everyone to know that Emma's my girl. And I know she wants everyone to know that I'm her man.
Definitely. And so, like, that really did it.

Look to the camera. Definitely.
They are each other.

Don't shoot. Let's just...
Don't forget she was a rat that night. Yeah.

I was an alien, but she was a rat that night

wasn't. We don't forget.

That was all. I mean, I think it's so cool.
And how has it changed now being public with it? Because you guys were private for a while.

And so that meant also in these spaces you were in, you had to be kind of cautious even because there's cameras all around. There's this and that.
And you want to be affectionate.

It wasn't like you were hiding it. But I think Alan, when he would talk to me, you guys just loved.

That there was no, you know, people coming, almost coming into your relationship. I think the second we went public, it was like, oh, nothing else matters.
Who Who cares what people think?

And we had been living like,

what are people going to think? And

just protective and just private. And it gets in the way.
And when you, it was actually Brit, one of my best mates, Britt Stewart from the show, she said to me,

you're kind of living in fear. You're not really like owning your own life because you're like worried about what people will say.

And I listened to her and she was right. The second that we made it public,

the first like day was like a little bit like, I'm not going to go on my phone.

And then, and then it was by far the best thing because we just popped that illusion, which was that everybody hates us and everybody this. And it just, you don't need to think that way.
And

you can choose to like own the life that you're living. And it really helped me a lot.
So our last show was in Chicago on tour, and we stayed there for like two extra days.

And I remember that first day, we were not on our phone. Really?

We were just like, okay, let's

no need to look at it. And then I remember we went axe throwing.

Oh, yes. We went axe throwing that night.
The natural next step. Yeah.
Obviously, you go public. We go public.

She's really good at axe throwing. Yeah,

you knew. That's right.
Her back is to the door at restaurants.

I was almost like,

I'm regretting going public. She's much better than me at axe throwing now.
What the hell? That's the only thing I can do. And she's like, I don't know why I'm so good.
I've done this before.

I'm like, how the hell? Like, I was throwing it, it wasn't even sticky. I was like, how are you doing this?

How is this what we're talking about? I don't know.

I was very impressed. You went axe throwing.

I was very impressed. I was like, that's my baby.
Yeah.

Go back in time to the barbarian times and we have axes.

Maybe I had a previous life, previous life as

an axe thrower. Yeah.

Have you gotten Alan into some like I know that you're into more spiritual stuff? Like spiritual stuff. Have you gotten him into

getting such a battle rap, but I'm a little woo-woo.

Yeah, I actually think that Alan's naturally more, you know, it's just a bit more like intuitive. I think it's more just like

if you're like an intuitive person and you can self-regulate and think about what you, it's more like introspective.

Just I feel like I can just tap into what I need and I can kind of gauge sort of the energy in the room I'm sensitive to energies which of course people sometimes like

but I just feel it I feel when

things are high and when things are low and it can be a little bit jarring for me if I walk into a room that has you know I don't know just

some heavy stuff going on. Like

I tend to, my body notices it and I can't do it along. And do do you take it on and try to counterbalance it? Do you find yourself?

As a kid, I noticed I used to do that.

And I think that's a lot of people, even without realizing it. I think the kid that always acts happy, and I'm naturally very like a happy person.
I just know that about myself.

But sometimes kids can overextend and try to take the weight of heavy situations and be super upbeat and want to perform and take on everybody else's stress.

And I've learned, I got to like maybe 30 when i realized oh i can't do that anymore and that's when really that's why usually around 30 the white the patterns of people's lives start to crumble and they start to look at themselves because they can't physically do that anymore and that's what happened to me so which one of you is the

who's woo-woo fixer which is the woo-woo fixer i think in that way what you're describing i think i do is like i'll feel an energy and i'll try to and like i used to describe it as i will burn my candle at both ends to give other people light but it's just like

taking a toll on me. And I think same thing.
I turned 30, and I got to a point where I was like, okay, that's happening, but that's okay. That's what they're dealing with.
You don't have to do that.

You don't have to fix it. That's do you.
Yeah. But it's a long journey.
She's still learning. I'm still learning.
She gives a lot to people.

It's like the biggest thing in life. Like for me, when I heard, you don't have to go in there and change that.

Oh my gosh, this like relief. It was

awesome. Right.
And it's that simple term of like, let them, you know, it's not really like so simple but it's like let them yeah let them

um where I was like ew well yeah it really is that simple let them it doesn't really pertain to me I guess yeah I think it's something that we spoke about this year as well is like you can't change people's minds yeah and you should you don't need to if somebody's being negative just

you're not gonna force your positivity onto them yeah

don't just try to not take their negativity like they can do their own thing and you don't have to be absorbing that Which was kind of hard for me because I'd gotten to a point where, and maybe this is like an ego thing as well, which I'm trying to be really careful with.

I'd gotten to a point where I'm like, well, what are you doing?

I don't want to interrupt you while you're talking, so I want to move my hand. You can move your hand.
But it's my left hand, and I'm not a lefty. I'm alright.

So it's he's also sinking into that couch.

He's getting deeper and deeper. I'm sorry, we were in a very deep conversation.

I'm ready now. No, it's okay.
I forgot what I was saying. That's another thing.
I'm really bad with focus. Oh yeah.

I kind of felt like it,

oh, okay. I might be part of my purpose here might be just to make light of situations and to do that.
So it was like a fine line between what I thought was

something that I can give to a situation to, oh no, you don't have to do that at that point. So it's like picking and choosing a little bit.
Well, last time Alan was here, we learned about his family.

You have a twin sister. I do.
And your birthday is on Christmas.

She's basically Jesus. Yeah, wow.
Oh my God. I didn't even think about that one.
We didn't think about that.

Christmas was always interesting because there's the two of us, my twin sister, Kelly, she's amazing. She's a seamstress in London.
She's super talented.

And I just love her so much. We have like the best connection.
And whenever we're together, we laugh consistently. It's brilliant.
And people like look at us like, why are they laughing?

And we like resort back to our 16-year-old selves. It's great.
Christmas Day, my parents did a really good job of separating Christmas in the morning, birthday in the afternoon, and

we would get different presents. It wouldn't be just like yours is a blue one, and yours is a purple one, even though that did happen a few times.
You know,

it was really, really great. So, I actually like having a birthday on Christmas.
Really? Yeah, I didn't used to, but now I'm like kind of okay about it.

I think it put a lot of pressure on your parents. Yeah, it did.
Oh, God, you gotta get them Christmas presents and birthday presents. Yes, but then it's all done in one day.

But I will say, because I got to spend christmas and emma's birthday in england with her last year and

also i'm jewish so i don't know christmas any other way right but the way like advent calendars are massive in london are yes

oh my god like

they have like 15 advent calendars at their house yeah canberry jolly like the little yeah candies

No doubt my mom has bought him an Advent calendar.

Are you going this year to England again?

So we haven't called them yet

i just just we just figured it out that um we don't think we can go because of the time robin and julie if you're watching this robin julie

only just figured it out i said i would go she doesn't want to go no no no no no it's not

four days

and to fly to england and then also then not you know we fly into london and then drive for two two and a half hours two hours something like that you're familiar with

yeah

yeah it would just be really hard. So we just saw them recently.
And

so we don't think we're going to go for Christmas, unfortunately. So stay in LA.
Have your own Christmas. We will spend it with potentially his family.
Oh,

Minnesota. The Minnesota.
Yes, but it's so cold. I'm trying to convince everyone to go summer warm.
Yeah, that's right. Hey, guys.
Dominican Republic would be nice.

Right, yes. Because you guys are going to do, so Christmas, and then you're doing tour, which tour is non-stop on a tour bus for months.
It's long this year. Long.
I think we go to May 13th. Yeah.

Oh, my God. Yeah.
You guys in your little bunk beds. Yes, just a couple of bunk beds across from each other.
Yes.

But you love it.

Alona would come back and be like, they love it. They are doing what they love every single night.
They get to dance. They get to travel.
They like. And I'm with my baby and my dog.

And like, it's so amazing. Yeah.
We can do what we love, dance in front of thousands of people every day.

It's just fun. We like to travel in that sense.

Like, going around and seeing America for me, I mean, I'm not from here. I'm from England.
So, it's really cool to see America. We love coffee.
He loves the gym. Coffee is great.
Yeah.

Going to different cities and just exploring coffee shops. Yeah.
It's

so cool. Like, we, I don't think we're going there this year, but for many years, we would go to Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
Are we not going this year?

And, like, it's,

it's,

it's an Amish town

like it is awesome and the coffee shops are unbelievable

with a guy and he owns a coffee shop there and we know him and we go to our favorite breakfast spots like Pasha. I have to mention him.
He's got the specific breakfast place he goes to in Lancaster.

Yeah, it's like Pasha's a foodie. So is he like Lancaster? Yeah, but we've been to this

city so many times we're like, oh, we have to go here. Like we wake up, there's a great coffee shop around the corner.
Yeah.

it's cool you've got places in all cities yeah yeah like even remember like i've never been to santa barbara before and this year we went to santa barbara and i was like santa barbara's awesome it was pretty we all went on a walk we all went on that walk that coffee shop was amazing yeah like did you go to the beach yeah

we walked there yeah but like going and exploring these cities yeah it's just so fun you know where i wish we'd go is vermont Yeah, you let us know. Yes, please.

I really want to go. It's beautiful.
I want to go because of you guys, and I want to go because of Noah Khan. Yeah.

And the way he sings about it, I just want to go. I think the closest we're getting to is New Hampshire.

That's not, don't even. It's not close.

No, it's just not there you. It's just not saying that's not the same.
I never see the sound of it. I wonder if we can take a day off.
Imagine if we could just drive there. All right.

This is like, you ever seen those on the street where they're like, Are you a couple? And then they ask questions? Yeah, yeah. What do you love most about each other?

First of all, before we get into that, before we get into that, you're swinging.

Some of them are for sure.

There's no way that they just happen to be

passed by Val and Jen on the street. All right, bro.

I haven't seen these videos. Oh, it's like meet cute or something, right? Yeah, they said they said walking by, they go, Are you a couple? And then they'll be like, What the heck's this guy doing?

Like, yeah, and then he'll get into questions and they get to bring up the relationship and talk about you know what they love about each other or what you know.

So, what is it? What do you love most about each other? And you can't say his distressed shirts and apparel and my model and his alien model look.

Um, Oh, for sure, his alien look.

I think what I love most about Alan is

we are very different, and I need someone who is, this is going to sound very unromantic, but he is so practical and logical thinking, and he is so matter of fact.

I do that because you know why sometimes his facts are like not factual.

I love his humor. So I love to laugh.
It's a really big thing to me to laugh in my relationship.

But I love the fact that

he really does show affection to me and he takes care of me. And I love his heart.
And I can see it all the time. Even when he

hides it or he's being shy or he is being any kind of different version that he needs to be, I can still see his heart. And I love that about him.
It's really big and he genuinely cares

big

Okay

What the hell you're one of the girls

that is Emma really handles Alan's humor so well

That's hilarious

The thing I love most about Emma is have you seen her? Yeah, real time.

I put this on your post best butt in Dance with Sarah's best butt.

When I first met you when I was at the rehearsal studios and I first met you, and I was like, Oh, this is Emma. I was like, When we left, I was like, That girl's got

best butt. She's not gonna show it now, you freak.

Just know it makes multiple BBL copies.

Multiple, it's got unreal shape. I've seen her working in the gym, it's not no.

I'm gonna be honest, the fact that Emma cares so much about everyone, she's never met them before, she's gonna care, she's gonna try to help them out. Yeah, she helps me out so much.

So, on top of like just how beautiful our lives are and how like romantic we can be and all that, she really wants me to be a better person.

And I think that's important. You know, a thing that she does so well is also is she loves to learn.

And I'm somebody that's so attracted to like passion and growth and. wanting to be better.

I'm really attracted to drive and Emma does that all the time. Like she just constantly is reading or

researching something. She got her real estate license for fun.
She got her notary license for fun. She just likes to learn things.
And it's so just

like I'm, it's so like attractive to see somebody getting, progressing and getting better and learning.

You know, she was like, I might go back to school or like do those Harvard programs online where you just learn things. I'm like, that's cool.

I'm going to just sit on the couch and watch TikTok for a second. But I'm hot for you about that.

That's cool. That's what get Alan going

on the laptop. He's like, he's joining those Harvard courses.

No, but for real, she's like, who gets the real estate license while you're dancing with a snow? Yes. Doing a season and on tour? Yeah.
That's just impressive.

And thank you. That's really, really sweet.
Thank you. That's on her butt.
Yeah,

but I'm a butt.

Beautiful, beautiful woman. You guys very much so enhance one another's lives, I think.
That's very beautiful. Yeah.

I sometimes have to step out of my own way to like, because I can be very, um, I think it's a female thing to do to get things in order at home.

And sometimes I deal with anxiety about, well, like, where's my life going? And, oh, did I make a mistake here? But I, when I just sit back and relax and then I look over at Alan, I know he's got me.

And it feels really nice because I haven't been able to relax so much in my life until I've like told myself, Emma, you can like chill out and relax now. And it feels really good.

That's That's because of you.

Would you say your opposites attract?

In some things,

I feel like we have a lot of similarities, but in certain things, yes, we're opposite. I need opposite.

I do.

I can't deal with another one of me.

I think, again, we're so similar in certain aspects with like the passions and the drive and like obviously with the arts.

But then, like, I

am factual a lot.

And she's okay. Let's say this.
I'm a lot, I'm realistic. She is a dreamer.
Like, she will dream about all these scenarios. And I'm like,

great.

Let's do something that's going to happen.

And I think she helps me with the bigger picture. And I can help her with the smaller picture.
Yeah, so he's more detailed. He's making things happen.
And she's like, you need to do this.

And I'm like, but how will it happen? Yeah, yeah, you know, so it's like things like that really work well together.

But I would say, the biggest thing that to me, and Em already touched on this, is the humor. Like, we have so much fun together that, like, we'll look at it, like,

sometimes she's like, You got to stop poking fun at me, but like, I'll just poke fun at her because I love that, but like, in the best way, of like, did you ever get that? For example,

I'll some like I'll tell Jeff, like, baby, I love you. And she's like, Are you talking to me I'm like yeah yeah

and then 10 times of something where it's like you know I'm the butt of the joke I'll be like right you've hit your threshold now you're right your threshold for

nice things only yeah but no but it's the fun like to me it's that banter that's fun because like I like

if you make fun of me or if I make fun of you what was it yesterday

Oh

there was a few yesterday wait what

well they're both talking What'd you say? The veins in his forehead are popping or whatever it is. Yeah.
He caught me talking to myself.

How dare you? That's how you get the answers you want. No, I know.
But he wasn't. Uh-huh.
I get answers. But I was like looking at her.
I was like.

The face that he pulled was in pure disgust and like, I can't believe it.

I remember what it was. I remember what it was.

Okay, we were in the kitchen. She started talking about something and she went on three tangents and I didn't say a word.

I'm just listening. And she was like, yeah, and that's what I'm going to do.
I was like, I didn't say anything. She was like,

You were like having a conversation with herself with myself as if I was responding. And it was so funny because she was like, I know.
And we just bursted out into laughter.

And I was like, I love this. Like, it can just be so lighthearted.
And I was just like watching her. I think was it about the pancakes you were making? Because they were pretty bad.

I was making protein pancakes. Awful.
But yeah,

it's not a pancake. It's a crumble.
Yeah, right, right, right. But it was so, yeah.
It's just, it's funny.

Like, i love it yeah yeah it's light-hearted and i think it's needed sometimes but at the same time we can have really deep conversations and i think that's what

gives it like purpose have you guys had an interview together before like this he might be there first

yeah

yeah

keep bringing up

nice nice nice guys this is so much fun this is so good before you guys go you're part of the family now. That means you need to help out around the house.
We got to do some chores.

Do you want to sweep, do the dishes, or do laundry? I'll do the dish. I'll do laundry online.

You want to do laundry, okay? Running back. For laundry today, what do we have? Share the last TikTok you saved.
It's a long one, okay? No.

This is called the, it says, giving my mom fake name of friends I invited over for Thanksgiving. Oh, I saw that one.

Do you know who's coming?

These are your friends? Yeah.

I think you've met a few of them.

I don't think I know any of these people, Mia.

You don't? No. Mike.
Who's Mike Hawk?

He's what he

worked with me at my old job, the one I had in high school. Who's Holden? Holden is so nice.
Holden two dicks. Do I know him?

This is the stuff Alan would say.

You know, Lou. You know, Lou.
You know, Lou. You know Lou.

I love this one. It's called the Raw Song.
The fucking bass is fucking raw! Shit, it's raw! Raw chicken! It's raw! Fucking raw!

This is the most British thing you could have done.

Right now, choreographic dance that

20 seconds. I'm shocked this wasn't your TikTok dance with Andy.

No, I actually want to do this, but like, I would, I want to do it with you or Andy, but also Mark Ballas, I think, would kill me if I did it with anybody else because we're British and he loves Gordon Ramsey.

And

we laugh about this song all the time. If I need to feel better about life, I

put on Gordon Ramsay. It's raw.
And that's why I know the words.

Well, I mean, the words are kind of easy.

Raw Carol. It's raw.

Raw chicken.

Beautiful. Thank you for helping me around the house.
Thank you for...

You know what I want? She picked your chore. Well, you know what I want for Christmas? What?

For you motherfuckers to do a dance together.

I send them songs every time, and I was like, this would be a great song.

I've sent them many a song. All I want for Christmas

is you to choreograph a dance. No, we're going to do one together.
Message the same one to Emma. Yeah, I usually message you both.
Yes.

And she said, all I want for Christmas is you do the dance to this song.

Can you imagine them dancing to this?

I'll film.

He's all the way.

I'll be the

one you want to submit that. Let's submit it.
Yeah, we'll do that. We'll try to do that on Twitter.

And we'll make it like, you know, that one goes out to Alona. Yeah.
Yeah, that one goes out to you.

So if we do that dance, shout out Alona. If we don't do that dance, sorry, Alona.
Sorry, Alona. It would probably be another song that you've given us.
Yeah. I'll send you more.

You've said this a few.

I have. I've sent you some other ones and I was like, this would be really good.
Yeah. You know, Movie by Tom Mish.
You said British guy.

That was a good one. I could see you two I think you should just do more just do more dances in general together We will now we will and like your own choreographed

We have one for the for the there was some people online that were like you guys have not danced together all season, which is true.

Yeah, but we do have we haven't did you know that no yeah, we haven't but we do have in the finale. Yeah, we have a we have a dance a tour number.

I'm wearing like a full ballroom dress. I don't know if you know that it's beautiful.
Yeah, it's pretty. You guys would have just seen it last night or whenever

Last week, maybe

last week. Perfect.
Well, guys, thank you so much for joining the House of Mar. Of course, you're always welcome.
You're a part of the fam now.

That was amazing. Had so much fun spending time with you, Emma and Allen.
Good luck out there, Alan. Thank you.
Good luck, Alan. If you win,

I'm going to be happy. I will be like, damn.

Thought I could do it with him. But hey, I want you to get that mirror ball either way.
Okay.

You can follow Emma and Allen on Instagram at the Emma Slater and at Alan Burson. Do I have to put the in front of my name? No, I just Emma Slater wasn't available.
She's a horse rider. A horse, yes.

She's a whore. She's a whore.

She's a whore.

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Thanks for having our first interview together.

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