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Speaker 33 It's the SummerSlam Report.

Speaker 33 Roman's back, and Solo's going to be in trouble. Hala, Hala, Roman's back.

Speaker 33 And other stuff happened, too.

Speaker 33 And you've heard him in the background joining me to talk about this and more.

Speaker 33 Hawaii and Brian, the podcasting lion, the king of the Arcadian Vanguard Podcast Network, Mr. Co-host to you.
He's everybody's BFF bossy fucking friend, the great Brian Last, everybody.

Speaker 32 Hello, Hajim. A pleasure to be here once again.

Speaker 32 I wouldn't call myself bossy. You, I guess, are the embodiment of a all-white girl vocal group of the 566.

Speaker 33 Wait a minute. An all-white girl?

Speaker 32 I'm the embodiment

Speaker 32 of an all-white.

Speaker 32 I said vocal group of the 50s. There was a pause.
Well,

Speaker 32 I was putting my words together in proper form. We're in proper order here today.

Speaker 33 Just let them flow. No, no, just let them flow.

Speaker 33 Just scatter them out there to the winds, baby, like you're shooting craps in Vegas. Just fling those words out there.
Hey, boxcars, big Bennies.

Speaker 33 Oh, boy, here we are again. I'm going to tell you what.

Speaker 33 Just right now at the top of the program,

Speaker 33 I'm trying to be in a good mood. And you tickled my taint a little bit right before we went on the air.

Speaker 32 Well, I mean,

Speaker 33 in a verbal sense,

Speaker 33 you know, because we're far apart, we are now here at New Jersey and Kentucky. But

Speaker 33 it's actually,

Speaker 33 is that the official, the way the restraining order came out? We've got to stay at least this far apart. It's about 700 miles, whatever.
Anyway,

Speaker 33 I'm trying to be in a good mood because if you heard the drive-through that we did, that's probably been released before this show will be released because we've already done it, whereas we're just starting this one.

Speaker 33 I've had a run of stressful luck lately, and the estimate to drag this 30-ton

Speaker 33 former tree out of my goddamn backyard and do all of the other things that need to be done after the latest fucking catastrophe of Mother Nature has entered five figures.

Speaker 33 But

Speaker 33 there's some things, and I'm doing my pen again here today

Speaker 33 for you there. Just see, I'm going to put that down right now before you start complaining about that.

Speaker 32 Snapping like a glass. Like a 1950s all-girl white

Speaker 32 vocal group

Speaker 33 with a with a playing with a pen cover.

Speaker 32 Hala, yeah, let's go.

Speaker 33 Hala, hala.

Speaker 33 Anyway, we'll put the cover on that.

Speaker 32 Duda.

Speaker 33 So, but other things in town are perplexing me.

Speaker 33 Before we talk about the wrestling, can we just branch off into everyday life for a minute here? Brian, just you and me and the

Speaker 33 nearly countless. I mean, I'm sure there's a number for y'all out there, the cult of Cornet listeners, the people.

Speaker 33 But they're nearly countless. You could count them eventually.
It'd take a while.

Speaker 33 But can we just talk about everyday life for a couple of minutes?

Speaker 33 And let me, not only has my life been stressful here, but also the news in Louisville, Kentucky, just things are just weird things are happening.

Speaker 33 And it started with me the other day

Speaker 33 when, in the midst of all, actually, yesterday, now that I come to think about it, it seems so long ago.

Speaker 33 Yesterday,

Speaker 33 all my troubles came piling down on top of my head like a big bunch of diarrhea from a giraffe.

Speaker 33 So in the middle of all of this other, everybody, and by the way, to let everybody know again, Stacy's mother's feeling better after her procedure. Stacy's feeling better after her dental surgery.

Speaker 33 Harley is feeling better after her bad allergy attack that gave the little baby the coughs this past week.

Speaker 33 Everybody's feeling better except me. I'm kind of constant.

Speaker 33 I never particularly feel that good or bad either way.

Speaker 33 but in the middle of all of the natural disasters and the other things that's been happening I had committed I told this these this fellow this fellow that runs this handyman operation

Speaker 33 to have him come over and paint the fence it's been five years the birds have shit on the fence

Speaker 33 and the and the and the weed whackers have eaten it up at the bottom and

Speaker 33 There's some peelage going on and I just fuck it. I've wanted to spruce up the front fence.
It ain't going to affect my standard of living.

Speaker 33 At least it wasn't before

Speaker 33 the latest round of natural catastrophe. I said, Paint the fence.
I said, I'll get to paint because we got all this.

Speaker 33 We're using all the same shade of brown around here, Brian, the front fence, the back fence, the house paint, where indeed it is painted brown. It's all the same shade.

Speaker 33 So it gives us some consistency here.

Speaker 33 I like consistency.

Speaker 33 And so, since I have not had the chance to, and they're coming this week, allegedly,

Speaker 33 I'm going to, I just figure I'll go right over here to Sherwin Williams. You've heard of Sherwin Williams, right? He covers the world with paint.

Speaker 32 He's up here in the Northeast, yes.

Speaker 33 Well, he's everywhere.

Speaker 32 I don't know where he is. I can just verify he's here.

Speaker 33 Well, he's got, he is, he gets around. I'm telling you, you see,

Speaker 33 people all over the world, I'm sure, will recognize because that is their what used to be their slogan when I was a kid. We cover the world with paint.

Speaker 33 A bucket of paints paints being poured over the fucking world.

Speaker 33 So, Sherwin-Williams, and it's the Sherwin-Williams color in their little color fucking thing that they give out. That we get, so I go to the Sherwin-Williams store that's two miles over here

Speaker 33 from my palatial estate that's falling down around my ears

Speaker 33 just to buy five gallons of fucking paint from Sherwin-Williams.

Speaker 33 I didn't think that was too much to ask, and not even take a bucket of the paint. And even though, and this is a loophole that will come into play later,

Speaker 33 the last time that I got something painted around here, people were paying it, they bought the paint at Lowe's.

Speaker 33 But it's Sherwin-Williams, goddamn, you know,

Speaker 33 the color, and it has it on the barcode thing on it. So I take the whole bucket.
I say, hey.

Speaker 33 I walk into the store and here comes Sherwin, walks up to greet me. Good morning.
Good morning. I'd like to buy five gallons of paint right here of this kind.

Speaker 33 And he looks at it. He said, Well, we don't have that kind.

Speaker 33 I said, Well, it's your color.

Speaker 33 He said, Yes. I said, Well, we got this from Lowe's, but since it's your cut, just give me the same kind of thing.
And instead of the Lowe's, what is this? Coke and Pepsi.

Speaker 33 I'm trying to figure out what's going on. I'm not

Speaker 33 an experienced paint purchaser, Brian.

Speaker 33 So I don't really, I've just

Speaker 33 I've walked into Sherwin Williams' store and I'm talking to Sherwin and I want some paint in his color, one of his colors.

Speaker 32 Well, he's not Sherwin. It's just you're calling anyone who works there.
No, he did.

Speaker 33 No, he had it right on his goddamn shirt. Right on his shirt.
He had his name on his shirt, Sherwin Williams. So I'm talking to him.
He happened to be in that day. It was actually convenient for me.

Speaker 33 I could talk to the boss.

Speaker 33 Anyway, I said, give me five gallons of whatever you have. It's like that.
Well, we don't have anything like that.

Speaker 33 I said, you're

Speaker 33 Sherwin-Williams. This is your

Speaker 33 way. He said,

Speaker 33 well, see, they got this at Lowe's, and we have a collaborative effort with Lowe's to provide them with these colors.

Speaker 33 But then basically, he tells me that I don't have any paint that good. I only have paint that'll take two coats.
This is paint where it'll take one coat.

Speaker 33 This is the, I told him I want the big, heavy-duty, top-of-the-line outdoor exterior paint, whatever the fuck.

Speaker 33 And apparently,

Speaker 33 they don't have the top-of-the-line outdoor, exterior, whatever the fuck paint. They got paint that's only middle of the line.
You got to paint it twice.

Speaker 33 And I said to him, I said, but Sherwin,

Speaker 33 you're Sherwin fucking Williams. You're telling me

Speaker 33 that Lowe's has better quality paint than you do.

Speaker 33 And he kind of stood there and humming it, humming at it. I said, Jesus fucking Christ.
So I came back home because Lowe's is too far.

Speaker 33 But is that not

Speaker 33 what has the world come to

Speaker 33 when Sherwin fucking Williams, the best shit they got, is middle grade?

Speaker 33 I ask you.

Speaker 32 Who owns it now?

Speaker 32 Is it the same owners that had it 40 40 years ago? Or is it some

Speaker 32 fun that bought it, loaded it with debt, and now they got nothing?

Speaker 33 No, he didn't look like that old of a fucking guy.

Speaker 33 I'm sure he's.

Speaker 33 But the point is.

Speaker 33 Again, he had Sherwin Williams on his shirt, so I'm blaming Sherwin-Williams. But if you want paint

Speaker 33 that you can't see through,

Speaker 33 apparently you need to go to Lowe's instead of, or anyplace else, I guess, instead of Sherwin fucking Williams.

Speaker 33 Just a word to the wise out there. If you're thinking about painting anything,

Speaker 33 don't talk to Sherwin.

Speaker 32 Was this unique to this one store? They don't carry what you're looking for.

Speaker 33 I don't know.

Speaker 32 It's just applied.

Speaker 33 They have a big sign over their goddamn store that's in this little,

Speaker 33 what do they call it? Mall or strip mall of stores side by side. not

Speaker 32 what do they call those things in town, Amy? No,

Speaker 33 the strip mall.

Speaker 33 You pull in the parking lot, and the stores are side by side, and there's a whole row of them. There's like eight or ten in a row.

Speaker 33 That's a shopping center or a strip mall area or a place of business or whatever. They're in one of those stores.
They got a big sign

Speaker 33 over their front door. It says Sherwin-Williams.
It lights up in the dark. I'll have you know, I've seen it.

Speaker 33 And when you walk in, there's all kinds of paint cans and a bunch of fucking colors of shit on the wall that you can pick out from.

Speaker 33 That to me indicates that they should be open for business with everything they fucking got, or they shouldn't tease us and tantalize us.

Speaker 33 Oh, no, we just got the rotten shit here. You'll have to go

Speaker 33 over to fucking Bardstown to get the good shit. What the?

Speaker 32 Well, the other thing is they are in business.

Speaker 33 So does this just barely mean that

Speaker 33 I was the only one in there when I walked in?

Speaker 32 Does this mean that no one is asking for this kind of paint except you?

Speaker 33 Apparently,

Speaker 33 but

Speaker 33 it's not.

Speaker 33 I don't think I didn't ask for any kind of goddamn paint concocted overseas with a special gold lining and sent here on fucking eagle's wings.

Speaker 33 I said, give me the best quality long when I bought this paint that I've been using.

Speaker 33 And when the people painting things bought the paint that I've been using, I said, get the best quality, longest lasting outdoor paint that you'd paint siding or a fucking fence with.

Speaker 33 And that's what they got. And apparently, Sherwin Williams,

Speaker 33 this big noted paint fucking guy.

Speaker 33 I'm just telling you, Sherwin, I'm letting people know about this.

Speaker 32 What kind of name is Sherwin?

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 33 What was his mother had a lisp and she couldn't pronounce Sherman?

Speaker 32 That wasn't what I was thinking, but that could be an option.

Speaker 32 Come on, Sherwin.

Speaker 33 Maybe she has Mama Cornette. You say she was hair-lipped.

Speaker 33 Anyway.

Speaker 33 Here's another thing that I heard about happened here in Louisville, Kentucky, Brian, and I just wanted to let people know about this.

Speaker 33 It was the greatest thing I've ever seen on the local news a couple of days ago. Actually made me giggle in my moments of trials and tribulations.

Speaker 33 There is a pediatrician in this town

Speaker 33 that, and they showed the outside of her clinic, and it was like.

Speaker 33 It was like a kids are us,

Speaker 33 toys are us kind of thing. Kids R.
Us. Toys R Us kind of writing on the kids' clinic or whatever the name of it was.

Speaker 32 Well, Kids R Us was a thing, too. That was a kids' clothing store.

Speaker 33 Okay, well, maybe I've seen it, but the point is, you know, the kind of kiddie type writing across the front, hello, kids' clinic, or whatever, the name of their place.

Speaker 33 And it looked very, it could have passed for a daycare center, right? They're really catering to the children.

Speaker 33 I guess you could be a pediatrician to treat people up to the age of what, 16 or 18, but they're going for the younger audience at this clinic. It looked like from their front door, right?

Speaker 33 And this pediatrician,

Speaker 33 and I've seen the, I saw the initial start of this case, but now it's been resolved, we think. But

Speaker 33 this pediatrician was just sent to prison. This woman looks like she's in her 40s, I guess,

Speaker 33 for hiring a hitman to kill her husband

Speaker 33 while she was operating at or working at, or part of this fucking kid's medical clinic

Speaker 33 and

Speaker 33 the way that this unfolded

Speaker 33 was that people started noticing that something was awry

Speaker 33 when she started asking people she worked with at the medical clinic if they knew anybody that might be able to kill her husband for her

Speaker 32 just out in the open that raid that raised the first suspicion hey you know i was thinking uh if you could pass those fries, do you know anyone that could kill my husband?

Speaker 32 Like, how do you ask multiple people that?

Speaker 33 But that

Speaker 33 the report, she began asking people that she were, hey, you know, anybody that might be able to kill my husband for me. And they're like,

Speaker 33 no, you know, we really don't

Speaker 33 know anything about that.

Speaker 33 And so then apparently, now with that the whole thing has come out and then they've had the court case and trial and whole nine yards, apparently then she started looking online.

Speaker 33 There was some mention of she was looking for a witch doctor that could cast a death spell

Speaker 33 online. So she's like making up code at first, maybe.

Speaker 32 So she's obviously a genius.

Speaker 33 But then

Speaker 33 she finally finds somebody

Speaker 33 and say, yeah, I'll do it for like $7,500, I think.

Speaker 33 So again, you know, your deal, because I would think you'd need to pay a significant amount more to have a really professional operation come in and take care of it.

Speaker 33 But she made up some more code language to get this guy to, but this guy,

Speaker 33 guess

Speaker 33 because of the apparently the noise that she had made already, this guy that agreed to do it turned out to be an FBI informant.

Speaker 33 Yeah, I'll do it, Lady. Let's work this out.

Speaker 33 And she works it out with the fucking FBI informant to hire him to kill her husband. And then they hauled her into

Speaker 33 the crossbar hotel, as Bill Watts used to say, and

Speaker 33 put a case together against her. And they've gone to trial.
And she was said, I think the sentence was 12 years or whatever.

Speaker 33 But at least the story has

Speaker 33 somewhat of a happy ending.

Speaker 33 Because Brian, guess what? The first thing she did when she got in jail was. I don't She started asking her other inmates if they knew anybody could kill her husband for.
Stop it.

Speaker 32 Come on.

Speaker 33 They reported this on the goddamn local news.

Speaker 32 That's amazing.

Speaker 32 So

Speaker 33 her husband's still a little nervous, even with her in jail for 12 years.

Speaker 32 Nervous, and you can understand why, but can you also imagine how bad it must hurt?

Speaker 32 It's not just your wife wanted you dead.

Speaker 32 The cops come, they talk to you, they tell you what's going on. And how much did she offer to pay them? $100,000?

Speaker 32 No, no, no. $50,000? No, no.

Speaker 32 Did she offer him jewelry or anything from the kitchen? No, no, no.

Speaker 32 $7,500.

Speaker 32 $7,500.

Speaker 33 Well, see, it's all his fault. He should have been more successful and given her a bigger household budget.

Speaker 33 But anyway, so

Speaker 32 nice to meet you. You don't even want to kill my husband.

Speaker 32 As soon as she gets to prison, it doesn't stop.

Speaker 33 And they had her, her lawyer was on camera, right? They asked, does this,

Speaker 33 I can't remember what the woman said, but does this woman,

Speaker 33 Dr. Chaos here, do you think she needs some type of counseling or, you know, psychological evaluation, whatever, some work done here?

Speaker 33 And the guy says, oh, yeah,

Speaker 33 I think that, yes, after everything that she's been through with this arrest and trial and what she's looking at in the fiesta, she definitely needs some.

Speaker 33 Overlooking them because she apparently didn't need any when she was asking everybody in town if they knew anybody would kill her husband for her.

Speaker 32 How you doing, Susie? You know, just can't find a good hitman these days.

Speaker 33 You know, anyone,

Speaker 33 you know, Fred never asked for a second cup of coffee.

Speaker 32 Would you like to put a bullet in his brain?

Speaker 32 There's some crazy people out there.

Speaker 33 And one more thing I got to bring you up to date on. It is a sad update.
And just a quick little story here that you can't even rest in peace anymore.

Speaker 33 Brian, when I bring up the name Denny Crumb, you know who I'm talking about. We've talked about him many times.

Speaker 32 Yes.

Speaker 33 You just can't elaborate on who. I'll tell everybody who he is again, in case you've forgotten.
A Hall of Fame

Speaker 33 basketball coach with the University of Louisville for 30 years, one of the winningest coaches of all time, protege of the legendary John Wooden at UCLA,

Speaker 33 a beloved,

Speaker 33 probably the most popular man in the city of Louisville throughout his life and over his retirement through the last 20, whatever fucking years, passed away last year. We talked about it.

Speaker 33 And now they just did an update, a news story again.

Speaker 33 They went to the cemetery, and there

Speaker 33 down

Speaker 33 the row and to the left from the monument.

Speaker 33 That's what the rich and famous folks call a tombstone, but the monument of Muhammad Ali and across the field, as they might say, from

Speaker 33 Colonel Harlan Sanders in a dignified place of honor in Louisville, Kentucky, is Denny Crumb, and he's got a big hole with concrete filled in it and nothing on top of it.

Speaker 33 Guess where Denny Crum's tombstone is?

Speaker 32 I don't know. We talked about this.
This is a while ago. We talked about him.

Speaker 33 No, we talked about him passed away, but guess where his tombstone is? We know where Denny is. He's the same place he's been for quite a while now.

Speaker 33 Probably not really going to be a world traveler from this point, but guess where his tombstone is? I have no idea. At the bottom of the Red Sea.

Speaker 32 That was going to be my second guess.

Speaker 33 At the bottom of the Red Sea.

Speaker 33 And what apparently,

Speaker 33 and I know this to be true because same for my mom and dad's that I had.

Speaker 33 made,

Speaker 33 the kind of marble that then the way they decorate it, blah, blah, blah. They do these things overseas.

Speaker 33 And I don't recall. I think his was coming from India.
I don't know. I can't remember now.

Speaker 33 But I don't think that ours came from India, but it's the same principle.

Speaker 33 On the boat,

Speaker 33 because I guess you can't really airmail a goddamn, you know, marble, granite, fucking several-ton item.

Speaker 33 On the boat over here, it got involved in, I think, the Hamas war the terrorism potentially pirates who knows what's going on and the ship was sunk and the things at the bottom of the red sea

Speaker 33 and now and they're they're working on a replacement but

Speaker 32 it's gonna really it's gonna really fuck up the archaeologists in like 2000 years when they find that but nobody

Speaker 33 what that they're gonna think oh my god how did they get him down here

Speaker 32 what century could this have been from when did they do this He obviously was one of the

Speaker 33 Greek gods.

Speaker 32 One of the sea people that we've heard about.

Speaker 33 Yes, Neptune and Denny Crumb.

Speaker 33 But

Speaker 32 Denny Crumb of Atlantis, we salute you.

Speaker 33 But

Speaker 33 it's ironic because the U of L colors are red, because the Louisville Cardinals are red, because Cardinals, the birds are red, and he was the coach of a red team for all those years.

Speaker 33 And now he's at the.

Speaker 33 Well, he's not, but his monument is at the bottom of the Red Sea.

Speaker 32 What kind of monument was he getting that they had to ship it from over there?

Speaker 33 Well, that's what it's, I mean, it's not like it's a goddamn giant, you know, monolith you're thinking about, but no, when you do the nice tombstones, as we regular folks used to call them, but still they weigh a couple of tons if you have like a double header and

Speaker 33 they they do they have better marbles and materials and engraving, and they can do things over there, and they can do them in it more inexpensively.

Speaker 33 And so many of these

Speaker 33 monuments come from various places other than the United States. Have you ever seen some guy in Cleveland doing quality work on a tombstone?

Speaker 32 I don't know. On Long Island, we had the fine people at Sprung Monuments.

Speaker 33 Sprung?

Speaker 32 Sprung. They went to school with my father.
Stephen Sprung went to school with my father, so that's how I know them. Very nice people, though.

Speaker 32 Took care of multiple multiple dead relatives.

Speaker 33 There is, well, I was.

Speaker 32 Stones arrived on time. No pirates.
That's the sprung way.

Speaker 33 But

Speaker 33 there's some line involving getting sprung from a cemetery

Speaker 33 that I can't think of right now. But

Speaker 33 was,

Speaker 33 you know what?

Speaker 33 God dang it. Sprung, I'll go with it.
How about

Speaker 33 be hung with sprung?

Speaker 33 No, that wouldn't work because that's the method of...

Speaker 32 Why?

Speaker 33 Well, that's the method of execution. So that if you would be more planted, you'd be buried with Harry's.

Speaker 33 Well, nevertheless.

Speaker 32 Again, let's just clarify from our good friends at Harry's. This has nothing to do with them.

Speaker 33 No, it's a completely different Harry. Unless he, you know, decided to diversify.
And

Speaker 33 we can't ever blame these big business typhoons for spreading out.

Speaker 32 Do you think when Harry from Harry's is buried, like, it has to be well kept.

Speaker 32 The plot, right? Like, they can't let anything grow. I mean, that would be just.

Speaker 33 Not lost like we have, lost the plot.

Speaker 32 Well, this is your show. This is your show.
That means it's your fault.

Speaker 33 Some things that have been going on, ladies. Oh, I would like to say

Speaker 33 happy birthday on August 7th to William

Speaker 33 And say, I don't know how to, exactly how to, I don't want to insult him and not and mispronounce his last name on his birthday, but it's N-I-N-O.

Speaker 33 Would that be Nino or would that be, would that have to be the Nino, like El Nino?

Speaker 32 Nino.

Speaker 33 Well, no, that sounds like Minno. Seems like there'd be a W at the end somewhere.

Speaker 32 The Mets have a great player, Brandon Nimmo. It's N-I-M-M-O.

Speaker 33 Well, no, this is N-I-N-O.

Speaker 33 Oh. Not M-I-M-O.

Speaker 32 I thought you said there were two Ns.

Speaker 33 No, there's two. And they're, well, yes, there's two N's.
What are you saying in New Jersey-ish?

Speaker 32 What are you saying? You just changed the spelling of the words.

Speaker 33 No, N-I-N-O. Nino?

Speaker 32 Okay, but there's not two in a row. That would be Ninho.
You're right.

Speaker 33 Oh,

Speaker 33 you meant thought two N's in a row. I thought you said two M's because you have that accent.
No, this accent. I thought you were saying Nimmo.

Speaker 32 That's what I did say.

Speaker 33 Nimmo?

Speaker 32 I said the Bretts, the Bretts, the Mets, have an outfielder.

Speaker 32 Name Nimmo.

Speaker 32 Why am I yelling at you? Name an outfielder, name Nimmo, and you're going to like that.

Speaker 33 Well, that's the thing. It doesn't make any sense because that would be M's in there instead of N's.

Speaker 33 But this guy has a birthday. On August the 7th, William Nino, and apparently

Speaker 33 he's a customer at Cornett's Collectibles, but his wife, Melissa, apparently did some kind of favors, I don't know, for Hotchkiss.

Speaker 33 And that's how I've

Speaker 32 alerted to. Let's not put it that way.

Speaker 33 Well, that's how I'm alerted to mention this,

Speaker 33 is that

Speaker 33 there was some correspondence between

Speaker 33 Hotchkiss and this lady

Speaker 33 while there were some transactions going on with Cornettes Collectibles. And in the process, I get a note, hey, wish happy birthday on August 7th to William Nino.

Speaker 32 So he won't know about me and Hotchkiss at the Super 8?

Speaker 33 No, what, you and Hotchkiss?

Speaker 32 I'm saying, is that what she's saying?

Speaker 32 Is she throwing you?

Speaker 32 You're making it sound like she's having an affair with Hotchkiss.

Speaker 33 No, they closed the Super 8 is what I'm saying to you.

Speaker 32 Is that what you're saying? Okay.

Speaker 33 I didn't know what you were talking about.

Speaker 32 I'm a fool.

Speaker 33 It's been gone a long time. All right.

Speaker 33 now it's it's the old log in it's a fucking woodsy resort type of area if you were anyway if you were going to open up a national if someone said jim cornet

Speaker 32 you've missed your calling we're going to help fix that we want you to plan a national hotel chain one of the most important qualities to have

Speaker 32 well i think and it has to be affordable it can't be just like you know for the rich people like you well oh come on now the ritzy titsy coronets roll

Speaker 33 you know hey where's the valet hey oh shut up now you know i have many times ranted and raved about the ritzy titsy hotels and i don't want that i don't want to walk miles through stores and shopping areas and restaurants to get to my room i don't want everybody trying to help me carry my shit and wheel my shit and fondle my shit and get a tip for it.

Speaker 33 I don't want, I want to be able to park the parking lot, go through the side door, get to my room and sleep in peace and comfort.

Speaker 33 So don't try to pan, pan, don't try to pawn

Speaker 33 that type of talk off on

Speaker 33 the people out there. But I think we, we,

Speaker 32 you stick with your middle name is Waldorf.

Speaker 33 No, well, not many people know that.

Speaker 33 The, you stick with the, like, the Carlin

Speaker 33 concept of just have the motel that has the sign. It says, sleep, sleep, fuck,

Speaker 33 sleep, fuck, sleep and fuck.

Speaker 32 That would be your hotel. I didn't know I was going to go down this road.

Speaker 32 I should have.

Speaker 33 But just the base, you need a comfy bed and a quiet room and people minding their own business at the front desk.

Speaker 33 And it's good to have a, you asked about it, it's good to have a restaurant.

Speaker 33 In the, you don't have to have a four-star restaurant, but something that will give people the basics

Speaker 33 in

Speaker 33 the lobby there and a little room service certain hours and cleanliness and security and nice bathrooms and good cable.

Speaker 32 What about a hotel where you could skip the front desk? Some kind of way you could check in before you get there? And I guess they could check in.

Speaker 33 Oh, no, no,

Speaker 33 they have all of that shit now. They send you emails.
Oh, you can

Speaker 33 e-check in with your fucking blow it out of your ass. When I show up at the hotel, I go to the front desk and I announce my arrival.

Speaker 33 Hello, I am the person that has a reservation and I am here to claim it. I will be staying with you people for an approximate period of such and such,

Speaker 33 and I will be no trouble if you are no trouble to me. Good day to you.
No, I want to, you check in. It's part of the process.

Speaker 33 And

Speaker 33 you get a feel for do these people know what the fuck they're doing here? Do they have their shit together?

Speaker 33 And then they know you're here on their property and i've assessed whether or not that i might be able to come to them if i do have any questions or if they're just going to be as dumb as a box of rocks and in we go from there and i do sometimes pick their brains no matter how microscopic they may be on

Speaker 33 back in the old days

Speaker 33 places that i wanted to call that delivered food late at night and or directions to wherever the fuck i was going and how bad the traffic would be things of that general nature.

Speaker 33 And then it's a business transaction, and you're pleasant to them, and they're pleasant to you, they better be.

Speaker 33 And then you go on your way.

Speaker 33 So, no, I don't want to just walk. I'd feel like I was breaking and entering if I just walked into a goddamn place and just suddenly went into a room automatically.

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Speaker 33 Well, hey, that's because you've been asking all the questions. hey don't blame me i was trying to bring you up to date on some things going on all right before we

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Speaker 33 Before we talk about SmackDown, which was basically the two-hour promotional video for SummerSlam and then SummerSlam itself,

Speaker 33 I think we

Speaker 33 should

Speaker 33 mention this.

Speaker 33 I've had a trying week, and Brian shamed me because he was prepared. I was not.
We were going to talk about both biographies from last weekend.

Speaker 33 Hard week, folks.

Speaker 33 Ted DiBiase

Speaker 33 and Paul E. Danger Heyman.

Speaker 33 But I could watch DiBiase while distracted, but I wanted to give Heyman some attention. I know those words sound odd coming from me.

Speaker 33 I didn't get to watch it at all. So we're going to catch up with Paul Heyman in depth.
We're going to go inside Paul Heyman deep.

Speaker 33 His biography on AE, on

Speaker 33 AEW, whatever the fuck,

Speaker 33 on your show this week, so you can take credit for it.

Speaker 32 Oh, boy. boy but

Speaker 32 well it's it's been a trying week you know for heaven's sake sometimes i had a very action-packed exciting week production's a little bit behind schedule because i got the witness firsthand i said it before stephen pinu the left the right the uppercut i got to see it all for seven hours He even used the bolo punch.

Speaker 33 I found that that's almost when you're taunting your opponent is when you just wind up and use the old bolo punch.

Speaker 32 We'll be talking about this more in the future once we get some legal clearance on it. But I have to say, Stephen certainly showed the person he was talking to hard times,

Speaker 32 and he made sure that these hard times were explained thoroughly.

Speaker 33 There'll be more to come in granular detail. Individual A,

Speaker 33 as he shall be known,

Speaker 33 understands now that it would have been just so much easier not to do the thing that he did.

Speaker 33 But anyway, that's what I'm saying to you, Brian. And did you ever want to, were you ever, I will ask this question in English.

Speaker 32 That would be great.

Speaker 32 Well,

Speaker 33 we'd have a nice conversation if you wouldn't interrupt me. Did you ever

Speaker 33 just, when you were sitting someplace and you were in a situation, did you ever want to disappear, be somewhere else, stay more private, away from

Speaker 33 the intruding outside world, and just feel like you were protected all around you with a cone of silence, a bubble of anonymity? Did you ever feel that way, Brian Last?

Speaker 32 I mean, not really. I'm pretty good at just hiding in public as it is.

Speaker 33 Well, if you ever did, like all the rest of us, want to just vanish and stay private and not have people spying on you and sperming on you and worming their way into your life.

Speaker 32 Showing up on your front door from Virginia Beach.

Speaker 33 Showing up on your front door from Virginia Beach.

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Speaker 33 So you need to be protected because then your your public identity and your your personal activities on the interwebs will just come pouring out of people's computers like goddamn slot machines.

Speaker 33 And what? You know, suddenly.

Speaker 32 That's what you think pulling the plug is?

Speaker 33 Well, so when something happens where they're going to hack this whole thing, and then it's going to just all fall apart, right? Right. And then everything

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Speaker 32 Yeah, maybe more than that. What are you talking about exactly?

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Speaker 32 All right. Well, that was what you were talking about.
What are we going to talk about next?

Speaker 33 All right, well, thank you for just piping in with the goddamn uh say pipe.

Speaker 33 Oh, heavens,

Speaker 33 I didn't mean that you should pipe your organ in.

Speaker 33 I'm trying to

Speaker 32 there's an echo in here. Do you hear that?

Speaker 32 There's an echo that's not usually here. I will investigate.

Speaker 33 Are you going to need a flashlight or a magnifying glass to investigate that?

Speaker 33 Can you,

Speaker 33 you can put that off until later, can't you? Because I think we should go to the, before we talk about the activities of the WWE

Speaker 33 this weekend, let's talk about the biography of Mr. DiBiase, Ted DiBiase, the million-dollar man.

Speaker 33 You saw this program last week on the A ⁇ E network, did you not, Brian Last?

Speaker 32 I did. I saw it.
I enjoyed it. He's a very pleasant man.

Speaker 33 Very pleasant.

Speaker 32 He just seems very happy. And, you know, if you don't mention any of the state scandals in Mississippi, he seems like a very well-together, you know, put well mentally together guy.
A well-boiled guy.

Speaker 32 Unlike me.

Speaker 32 Unlike this here, me, you.

Speaker 32 This is biography, DiBiase, the million dollars, Ted.

Speaker 33 Nouns and pronouns, adjectives.

Speaker 33 I'm not saying this to knock Ted. I was disappointed in it.

Speaker 33 I was disappointed in it because one of the we

Speaker 33 the I liked Ted. That's why I was disappointed because the main part of his career that I liked that I just wanted to see maybe five, six, seven minutes of footage or

Speaker 33 you know, attention out of the hour given to, they completely skipped the fuck over.

Speaker 33 The period from what 1981 to 1987 it just

Speaker 33 they they kind of told it

Speaker 33 in that

Speaker 33 yeah he went he started in the old mid-south of the mcgurk territory the louisiana he worked in texas went to work for vince in 1978 which i think i think it was 78 79 had a run

Speaker 33 goes to Georgia or whatever, does something else. And oh, Vince has an idea.

Speaker 32 And then Vince met Bruce. That's what the documentary made itself.

Speaker 33 Well, yeah, yeah, well, yeah. And

Speaker 33 well, let's face it, Bruce had everybody's phone number, so technically

Speaker 33 that's uh, but nevertheless,

Speaker 33 the period of time where he they established that he was well thought of from the beginning and got some, you know, early notoriety and then completely skipped over when he was the best worker in the Mid-South territory as a babyface and as a heel.

Speaker 33 The

Speaker 33 big run in Georgia, the UWF

Speaker 33 transition, and he was a major player at that point. Just everything that happened from the period of time where he really started getting over to where he became the million-dollar man.

Speaker 32 Yeah, man, it was a good story to tell there, even if you kind of wanted to minimize it.

Speaker 32 It could be, I went to, I returned to Mid-South as the biggest heel in the territory, and then you could show the angle with Flair and Murdoch and explain how that turned him into the biggest babyface in the territory.

Speaker 32 They didn't even show any of that.

Speaker 32 I mean, that's the one thing everyone thinks about with Mid-South: the stuff with the dog and the stuff with him and Murdoch, or the match with him and Flair, and the Murdoch incident, I should say.

Speaker 33 Yeah, and you know what? I'm not saying I know that they only had 46 minutes plus commercials or whatever, so they couldn't focus on individual feuds or angles or whatever.

Speaker 33 They could have showed some highlights of that, but to skip over an entire six-year period where he,

Speaker 33 yes, they basically ended up with him,

Speaker 33 how did they phrase it, being passed by for the NWA title, which was back in 1981 again.

Speaker 33 And he was kind of upset. So, and then Vince called, 87, boom.

Speaker 33 His best years as Ted DiBiase, pre-million dollar man, were those, and that's kind of stuff I was just wanting to see on the national television.

Speaker 33 So that's why I was kind of disappointed, not in that Ted was not a great talenter. I don't just, you know, didn't like the program, although they give a lot to the preaching after

Speaker 33 his in-ring career was over with. So,

Speaker 33 but it was cool seeing the

Speaker 33 childhood pictures because

Speaker 33 they raised the great point at the beginning of of all the second generation talent, how many actually their mother and father were both wrestlers. And we get the, you know, a baby doll.

Speaker 33 And

Speaker 33 help me, besides DiBiase here.

Speaker 32 There's got to be a luchador or two that we're not thinking of.

Speaker 32 I don't know. That's a tough question.

Speaker 32 Motherfucker.

Speaker 33 We'll research it and get back to you if we come up with anything. But and then both his mother and real father were in show business

Speaker 33 before that wrestling even became a thing. She was a dancer, and his father was a singer.

Speaker 33 But they got divorced when he was like two years old. They had some great old pictures there.
And then Helen Hild, his mother,

Speaker 33 married, who worked in the 50s, and you see her name everywhere. She was a

Speaker 33 you know a you know a name female wrestler in that era that traveled almost all the the territories and she married uh mike di biase

Speaker 33 who was a big name especially in texas and had been a

Speaker 33 au the aau was before the ncaa correct

Speaker 33 They predate that organization, but he had been a

Speaker 33 major collegiate shooter and then a name pro wrestler. Did he not hold the junior heavyweight title at some point?

Speaker 32 You know, I'm not sure. It sounds right.
I know Ed Francis had the World Junior Heavyweight title in the 50s.

Speaker 32 I got to see what Mike DiBiase would have had.

Speaker 33 Or it may have been regional, but nevertheless, they had some black and white footage of Iron Mike.

Speaker 33 And then tell the story: July of 1969, he had a heart attack after a match in Lubbock.

Speaker 33 And

Speaker 33 when he died,

Speaker 33 that's, I think, this was a great, I think the best part, the highlight of the show was illustrating the relationship that

Speaker 33 Mike DiBiase had had with Dory Funk Sr. and

Speaker 33 the Funk family and what the Funks did for Ted

Speaker 33 as a result of their, you know, they liked him also, but their respect for Mike DiBiase.

Speaker 33 You know, Dory Sr.'s wife was the one who called Ted out in the hallway when they all came over to the house and told him what had happened to his father.

Speaker 33 And Terry is the one who brought his dad's ring bag back to him.

Speaker 33 So that was, you know,

Speaker 33 Ted was only, I think, what he said, 14 or 15 at that point. So it wasn't like Ted was ever in the business.
They just knew he was Mike DiBiase's son.

Speaker 33 And it was, you know, it was moving to hear him tell that story.

Speaker 32 But you could see just in that brief story being told here and Terry Funk's own words telling it, why Terry was so revered by everyone who worked there. Yeah.

Speaker 32 Forget about everywhere else and fans like us. When people work for West Texas, they didn't come out of there complaining like, oh, the fucking promoters, kids, none of that.

Speaker 32 and

Speaker 32 terry really did look after ted di bease like there was a genuineness beyond the craziness that every wrestler had that terry funk never lost

Speaker 33 thank you that that's very profound i was waiting for more um

Speaker 33 But yeah, that's, you know, they had thankfully comments from Terry that they'd recorded, you know, years ago, probably when he did the Hall of Fame thing or whatever. But

Speaker 33 talking about Ted and

Speaker 33 Terry played an instrumental part

Speaker 33 at certain points in his life, including

Speaker 33 getting him to New York and getting him to Georgia and et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 33 But it was interesting that he had a pause in it. Ted had a pause in his life where he

Speaker 33 moved to Arizona with his grandmother and he wanted to play football in college, but he hadn't watched wrestling

Speaker 33 since his father had died. And now he's gone to college, so three or four years or whatever.

Speaker 33 And he saw one of the funk shows from the TV from Amarillo, but they were bringing a house show to Tucson. So he went to visit and ended up switching.

Speaker 33 And instead of going to Arizona to play football, he went to West Texas State so he could eventually work for the funks.

Speaker 33 So that was,

Speaker 33 you can tell they probably made an impression on him at night and gave him a good.

Speaker 33 I mean, I'm sure he wanted to do it to begin with, but they also probably gave him a good assurance that,

Speaker 33 yeah, this is the thing you need to do.

Speaker 32 You know, again, he didn't have too many people in that kind of role. I'm not saying Terry Funk was a father figure.
He was, you know, maybe an older brother that could look after him.

Speaker 32 He knew he would be okay

Speaker 32 under the funks in West Texas.

Speaker 33 Well, and see, that's when Dory Sr. was still alive.

Speaker 33 Think about it, because he, he,

Speaker 33 Ted was already, he didn't go back to his last

Speaker 33 year of college, and he started in 1974. So he would have,

Speaker 33 he may even have talked to the old man himself there that night. Because that would have been, what, 1972 or whatever.

Speaker 33 So he would have had,

Speaker 33 you know,

Speaker 33 some of the most important and knowledgeable guys in the business, you know, taking him under their wing, which is why he

Speaker 33 probably turned out to be, you know, such a great worker and he had the aptitude and he had the eye for it. And

Speaker 33 a lot of the

Speaker 33 guys that were either trained in West Texas or came, spent a lot of time in that system, every from,

Speaker 33 you know, the Saruda to

Speaker 33 Dick Murdoch to

Speaker 33 the guys that the funks trained for on and off for Japan or DBSI here. They were all so

Speaker 33 fundamentally sound, as Gordon Soley might used to say. And they were just all-around, excellent workers who understood the flow of the fucking match.

Speaker 33 But anyway, that's, you know, they tell that story up to that point, and then he debuts in Lubbock

Speaker 33 in 1974, the same town that his dad had died in.

Speaker 33 And then they sent him to work, what was the McGurk territory? It wasn't Mid-South Wrestling.

Speaker 32 Right. They called it Mid-South.

Speaker 33 At that point.

Speaker 33 But for the sake of,

Speaker 33 I can see why, for the sake of

Speaker 33 clarity for the average viewer,

Speaker 33 that they did that. But it was actually.

Speaker 32 Come on. It's like if you work for Continental and you called it Smoky Mountain.

Speaker 33 Well, but there you go. You got me there.
But still, the point is,

Speaker 33 and actually, it wasn't really all Mid-South, though, yet, because they sent sent him Louisiana and Mississippi and Arkansas, and he didn't have

Speaker 33 an Oklahoma, he didn't have Houston yet, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 33 But nevertheless, that's where Ted spent,

Speaker 33 if he went there,

Speaker 33 spent, you know, probably eight of the next 12 years because.

Speaker 33 He was so good at that. It was a really

Speaker 33 a territory where the baby faces and the heels need to have their shit together. And he was so good at both, first as a babyface, and he finally got to turn heel there and,

Speaker 33 you know, learn from

Speaker 33 not only Watts, but all the Dusties and all the top guys that came through there.

Speaker 32 And that's why I would... Go ahead.
Between 76 and 86, how many wrestlers put more miles on their car than Ted DiBiase?

Speaker 33 Oh, God. How many cars? I don't know he had to have gone gone through in that point in time.
And that's why he said it.

Speaker 33 He told me at one point when he was in Louisiana in 84, some of the later part of the year while we were still there,

Speaker 33 and you can see we were kind of dragging. And he said, hey, I was here one time for a year and a half.
My hair started falling out and I hated the business. I had to get out of here for a while.

Speaker 33 But then he'd come back because the money and,

Speaker 33 you know,

Speaker 33 you could not only make money there, but you could establish yourself as a top guy. And he was always considered a main eventer there.
And if he left and he came back, he was right on top. But that

Speaker 33 period of time,

Speaker 33 then he was working St. Louis and,

Speaker 33 you know,

Speaker 33 being brought in there and his first run in the W, was it WWWF still when he got there the first time or had they switched to WWF?

Speaker 32 I think it was still the extra W when he first got there.

Speaker 33 And, you know,

Speaker 33 you could tell that he was a little pale, and Ted was never a muscular man. He was like Bobby Eaton.
He didn't have a lot of muscular definition, but his cardio is through the roof.

Speaker 33 But you could tell he didn't kind of fit in with it without a gimmick in the WWF from the highlights they showed. But he worked everywhere else because he was such a

Speaker 33 good, solid baby face that could sell and understood what was going on. And they were already,

Speaker 33 you know, talking about potentially, you know, him being

Speaker 33 the next champion. By 1981, what was it? That's where Funk said,

Speaker 33 don't go back to Texas, go to Georgia, meaning get on the TV there, TBS. You need people to see you because

Speaker 33 they were talking about him being one of the next champions for the NWA. And Terry would know that because by then,

Speaker 33 you know, it was Terry and Dory that, well, they had, they were booking for BABA, the Americans, and they still had membership in the NWA.

Speaker 33 I think that by that point in time, they'd sold Amarillo, but you know what? They knew what was going on.

Speaker 32 And by the way, let me just clarify, I was wrong. It was WWF when he got there in 79.

Speaker 33 When did they switch? In 78 then?

Speaker 32 In 79. That's what threw me off.
When you said 78, that's what threw me off. 79 is when they switch.
He gets there as the North American champion, champion.

Speaker 32 And then he feuds with Pat Patterson, and all of a sudden they announced Pat Patterson won a tournament in Rio de Janeiro, and he's now the Intercontinental Champion.

Speaker 33 And I got pictures of D.B. Assi with the North American title belt from Frank Amato.
Do you remember that photographer?

Speaker 32 Yeah, of course.

Speaker 33 Everybody does because he would write in black Sharpie his last name Amato across the corner of every picture he ever took on the front.

Speaker 32 He wasn't the only one. Lil Al Vavasor had a stamp that he put on everything.

Speaker 33 What are your thoughts as a photographer on other photographers that would mar, deface, vandalize their photos?

Speaker 32 Well, that would put a stamp on there or something to let the world know it's their photo.

Speaker 33 Well, see, it was harder to steal shit in those days anyway. So the kids wouldn't understand what we were talking about because now they got the watermark online, but you can

Speaker 33 make a digital copy of anything.

Speaker 33 To steal someone else's picture on a grand scale in the 1970s, you had to take a decently clear picture to a photo place and have a copy negative

Speaker 33 made off of that picture, which wasn't going to look as good as the picture did,

Speaker 33 and then have copies made off of that. That was the way the procedure worked.
So you were just,

Speaker 33 if you were stealing somebody's picture, you were being a complete prick because everybody could tell that it was a copy of a fucking picture.

Speaker 33 And it looked like shit, so most people wouldn't want it.

Speaker 33 So

Speaker 33 a lot of them, you know, put their names on the back of the pictures so they couldn't get printed in magazines without credit.

Speaker 33 But some people would

Speaker 33 write their name on the front of the fucking picture, which I thought was

Speaker 33 cheesy because, goddamn it, somebody wants the picture to put on their wall. They don't want your, unless they felt like it was their autograph because they were celebrities.

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Speaker 33 But I'm digressing, aren't I?

Speaker 32 That's what this show's all about.

Speaker 33 You know, the digressions are sometimes better than the transgressions or the progressions.

Speaker 32 They didn't talk about any of Ted's transgressions in terms of the Mississippi state government.

Speaker 33 Oh, come on now. You keep going back to Mississippi.
The ghosts of Mississippi. Let the fucking ghosts of Mississippi lay.

Speaker 32 That's what they're calling those tax dollars. The ghosts of Mississippi.
That money just vanished.

Speaker 33 They went woo

Speaker 33 off into the night. Woo.

Speaker 33 The money.

Speaker 32 What did you think, though, of getting to the WWF portion here? And again, Bruce plays a big part of that because that's right when he got there.

Speaker 32 And maybe one of the things that helps sell him to Vince is someone who could be a complete

Speaker 32 stooge.

Speaker 32 What did you think seeing?

Speaker 33 You were looking for the word toady.

Speaker 32 I was thinking toady, but I decided to go a different route.

Speaker 32 What did you think seeing the vignettes and some of the very briefly some of the behind the scenes of the early million dollar man Ted DiBiase vignettes?

Speaker 32 we always hear i think it was the scott hall biography where they said yeah this was a big thing for vince he was on hand producing it himself same thing with the million dollar man

Speaker 33 well i'm going to be in the minority

Speaker 33 The Million Dollar Man was not my favorite Ted DiBiase.

Speaker 33 As I pretty much mentioned before, my favorite Ted DiBiase was when he was a serious baby face on top and a serious heel on top in that early to mid 80s period when he had that deep voice and he cut the fucking convincing promo and his work, the matches.

Speaker 33 But now having said that, I recognize that he made more money with the Million Dollar Man, and that's what everybody remembers.

Speaker 33 And I liked him in a lot of cases as the Million Dollar Man.

Speaker 33 And again, in the ring, it was still Ted DiBiase.

Speaker 33 But I thought so much of the,

Speaker 33 so much of the vignettes were, it was over the top. I know that's what everybody was doing in the WWF at that point in time.

Speaker 33 But the laugh, it was,

Speaker 33 it was it, ah,

Speaker 33 bring it back. And that's the thing.
Bruce loves to say the phrase, well, we wanted to create this character. And they're all trying to self-filate themselves like they're in the actor's studio.

Speaker 33 He can't just come out and say, you know, we wanted the gimmick to be, he's a fucking multi-millionaire. We wanted to create this character.

Speaker 33 And, you know,

Speaker 33 it worked because he could work and he could talk and he could pull the shit off. But it was Vince's you because it was Vince's alter ego.
It was Vince's personal gimmick that he came up with.

Speaker 33 Tony Khan comes up with

Speaker 33 What's his name? Hologram. And

Speaker 33 Vince came up with a Million Dollar Man.

Speaker 33 And he did produce everything, but also Ted was taking it and running with it.

Speaker 32 If it was Tony, it would be the boy with all the friends.

Speaker 33 Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 33 The friended boy.

Speaker 33 The boy with too many friends. How many friends?

Speaker 32 Too many friends.

Speaker 33 Too many friends.

Speaker 33 But.

Speaker 33 But because of that, it was over-the-top corny in a lot of cases with what they put on television. And I know Ted got a kick out of it, and Bruce got a kick out of everybody, but I'm like, ah,

Speaker 33 he was more effective when he could really fucking dig into it. You believed it.
But, nevertheless, that just the laughing and the sum of the over-the-toppedness.

Speaker 33 I'm not talking about the general heel kicking the basketball out of the kids' dribble or what. By the way, that was Virgil's son, I believe, but they never mentioned that on this show.

Speaker 33 But anyway,

Speaker 33 the vignettes are what people remember.

Speaker 33 And at the same time, Vince, because this was his thing,

Speaker 33 actually, the stories are legendary, did fly him first class and paid for limousines and had him stay in the best hotel and gave him cash to fucking tip $100 bills to keep the gimmick up.

Speaker 33 And

Speaker 33 if it had been somebody like the Ultimate Warrior that had got that deal and was even being, because even Warrior didn't get goddamn tip money from Vince, right?

Speaker 33 The boys probably would have fucking killed him and buried him under a dam somewhere.

Speaker 33 But because they respected Ted and his ability, they

Speaker 33 lucky son of a bitch. It was that kind of thing.

Speaker 33 But did this

Speaker 33 was another thing that bothered me,

Speaker 33 but I guess it would have been, it would it have been confusing after all. They

Speaker 33 they covered the February 1998 NBC main event. That was prime time on Friday night.

Speaker 32 88.

Speaker 33 I said February 88.

Speaker 32 You said 98.

Speaker 33 Well, that's the old 98. Used to come round the bend.

Speaker 32 You were selling that.

Speaker 33 That was the old 98. I was ducking out of the way of it.

Speaker 33 February of 88 is...

Speaker 33 Before I got on the train,

Speaker 33 it was a Friday night, wasn't it? Friday night at like 8 o'clock.

Speaker 32 That's right, Friday night.

Speaker 32 It was the main event, not Saturday night's main event.

Speaker 33 Well, NBC main event, the NBC main event,

Speaker 33 or whatever the fuck it was. Anyway,

Speaker 33 that was where they did the twin referee deal, but they cut out the twin referees. What I'm trying to say to you.

Speaker 33 And

Speaker 33 they were talking about Ted wanted to buy the WWF title from Andre after Andre beat Hulk, which was the rematch from the previous year's WrestleMania. That's why it drew,

Speaker 33 what was the viewership? Like 33 million viewers?

Speaker 32 Something like that biggest audience ever for professional wrestling.

Speaker 33 Yeah, it was the first prime time network wrestling program since the Dumont network had gone under in 1956, and it was the highest-rated wrestling program ever in the United States.

Speaker 33 And so it was also when they signed, because I remember seeing it going, oh, my God, that's fucking Earl. Because Earl had been working for us at Crockett

Speaker 33 up until like the previous fucking day.

Speaker 33 And suddenly they did the twin referee, but they didn't show that. They just, that Ted bought the referee off or whatever.

Speaker 33 And couldn't they have,

Speaker 33 couldn't they have said that Ted paid? Because that's what.

Speaker 33 They said on the show, right? Was that, my God, did DiBiazi pay for the plastic surgery?

Speaker 33 Is there some, did they have some law? It was Earl in a lawsuit or Dave in a lawsuit or which I can't tell which one of them they showed because they were twins, you know.

Speaker 32 Yeah, I don't know about any lawsuits. Obviously, there were issues that caused them to be fired for, I think, bootlegging merchandise, but that was a long time ago.

Speaker 33 Well, which was bullshit, by the way.

Speaker 32 I don't know anything about it, was it?

Speaker 33 I side with the Hebners.

Speaker 32 Why? What were they doing?

Speaker 33 I don't know, but I side with them.

Speaker 32 You can't say it's bullshit if you don't know.

Speaker 33 Yeah, well, I heard, but I can't remember.

Speaker 32 That's good enough for me. God damn it.

Speaker 33 Defendant will answer the question.

Speaker 32 Don't make me badger you.

Speaker 33 Anyway, so they did that deal there.

Speaker 33 And then, of course, Jack Tunney had said, oh, no, no, no, you can't do that. So they had the title declared vacant for the tournament at WrestleMania 4, which was against Clash 1.

Speaker 33 A lot of numerals here.

Speaker 33 And by the way, that's the Sunday afternoon from Greensboro, where we had

Speaker 33 7.8 million people, I believe it was, watching the last 15 minutes of Flare and Sting over on the Clash of Champions on TBS

Speaker 33 36 years ago.

Speaker 33 Tony,

Speaker 33 but Teddy put Savage over in the finals of the tournament at WrestleMania,

Speaker 33 and he kind of phrases, well, you know,

Speaker 33 Vince was selling the action figures, the toys, and everything to the kids. He needed a hero.

Speaker 33 I think

Speaker 33 he was going to put it on Savage all along anyway.

Speaker 33 You know,

Speaker 33 that was what was planned, was it not?

Speaker 32 Originally, it was supposed to be DiBiase, the story was, and then it was changed because that's when the story goes, Honky Talk Man was asked to lose the Intercontinental title back to Randy Savage, but he didn't have a contract.

Speaker 32 So he started talking to Dusty Rhodes, I guess, or someone in that office with the idea he would show up on TBS

Speaker 32 with the Intercontinental Championship. Vince made a deal with hockey.
He held the title until SummerSlam. Instead of Savage winning that, he won the tournament that, again, rumor has it, D.B.

Speaker 32 Ossi was going to win.

Speaker 33 Ah, so there may be some smoke to that fire or

Speaker 33 fire to that smoke or charcoal gasoline

Speaker 33 something to the story

Speaker 33 there could be there could be well ten ted bought the million dollar belt

Speaker 33 so there you go so they did the

Speaker 33 the million dollar check and again i think that probably cost vince more than any other belt that he ever even though it was

Speaker 33 cubic zirconii that's the plural.

Speaker 33 It still was a lot of work, a piece of work. And so Vince spent more on that belt than probably any other belt they ever bought in history.

Speaker 33 And then, you know,

Speaker 33 once that they established that,

Speaker 33 the rest of the show was, well, meanwhile, the wife was taking care of the kids and Ted was always on the road.

Speaker 33 People mentioned that Ted was partying hard.

Speaker 33 And then his wife said that she saw charges on the bills that made her catch him cheating.

Speaker 33 He put his shit on credit cards.

Speaker 32 Ted, what's his 3,500 for hookers?

Speaker 33 And I might not know what a

Speaker 33 class act massage servant. What the?

Speaker 33 How

Speaker 32 party favors aka cocaine?

Speaker 32 What is this? Why'd you charge it, you idiot?

Speaker 33 I don't know, Henley. Jerry Springer.

Speaker 33 He got caught when he was running for fucking governor, right, in Ohio, after he'd been the mayor of Cincinnati, writing checks to the massage parlor. But how do you...

Speaker 32 Ken, I'm going through the books. I'm trying to get the taxes in order.
What's his charge for a late-night pussy?

Speaker 33 It's just.

Speaker 32 And then it says everybody has a price.

Speaker 32 What's going on over there?

Speaker 33 The memo line says get checked on Tuesday. What is

Speaker 33 so somehow,

Speaker 33 and I don't know how, but somehow we've just, this has merely been conjecture on our part, ladies and gentlemen, on how.

Speaker 33 But his wife saw paying the bills that he had been cheating.

Speaker 33 on her and they went to counseling with a pastor and apparently got religion.

Speaker 33 So once again, extreme emotional stress leads to irrational beliefs, and I skipped a lot of this part, just being honest with you.

Speaker 32 Hey, Ted, someone in your hotel room rented the movie Ass Blasters 5.

Speaker 32 You know anything about this?

Speaker 32 Are you watching it alone or with Virgil?

Speaker 33 Ted,

Speaker 33 I went back and watched Ask Blasters 5. You were in it.

Speaker 32 No!

Speaker 33 No, it's again, mere extrapolation, ladies and gentlemen, on our part. Speculation only.

Speaker 33 If necessary, I'll be happy to go go back and watch Ass Blasters 5 and make copious notes to make sure Ted's not really in it, just so I can clear him of that.

Speaker 32 But seriously, though, what could she have seen on the credit card statements? Unless it was like, you know,

Speaker 32 Madam's sucking fuck. Like, what could she have seen on the statement that would have said Ted's fucking around? Unless it was just dinner for two, something that simple?

Speaker 33 Well, I mean, here's the thing.

Speaker 33 If you,

Speaker 33 I hate to say this, but if you've given any thought to this whatsoever, have any experience of this type of thing, you're not going to buy

Speaker 33 any type of present or gift or service for an unauthorized individual and put it on a credit card or some type of paper documentation that your significant other would be examining at a later date, unless you just have completely lost your fucking mind, which

Speaker 33 has been known to happen.

Speaker 33 So, you know, but I hate to

Speaker 33 think that Ted would be that sloppy, but apparently something may have taken place.

Speaker 32 What's it say here on the receipt about sloppy million-dollar dream? What was going on that night, Ted?

Speaker 33 Either that or wait a minute, how did you spend $7,000 at Adam and Eve? Yet all I got was this lousy thing from fucking Spencer's gifts.

Speaker 32 Hey, maybe it's that. Maybe it's gifts.
Who'd you buy all this for? Bergdorf.

Speaker 33 Who?

Speaker 32 Bergdorf Goodman. It's a famous store.

Speaker 33 Oh. Oh, I haven't been to Bergdorf's.

Speaker 32 Bergdorf.

Speaker 33 Bergdorf. Well, it's his place, so it could be.

Speaker 33 That's a possessive apostrophe. Yes, it belongs to him.
Bergdorf's.

Speaker 32 Well, back to SmackDown.

Speaker 33 No, back to DiBiase.

Speaker 32 Back to Ted DiBiase.

Speaker 33 Basically, after the religion part, they got back to wrestling just to say that he was having neck issues and he decided to retire and managed and announced for a little while and started preaching.

Speaker 33 And I skipped through the

Speaker 33 preaching part of the last of the show, also.

Speaker 33 So that's kind of why

Speaker 33 I wanted to relive some of the glory years Ted DiBiase before he

Speaker 33 sold out and became the million-dollar man and made all that money.

Speaker 33 But it was

Speaker 33 a decent program.

Speaker 33 indeed. What was your final thoughts on? I mean, I enjoyed it.

Speaker 32 Again, I joke about it, but leaving out that story when it's happening right now, it's hard to

Speaker 32 think this has credibility because of that. It's a very WWE-centric documentary focusing on the things that make Ted happy.

Speaker 32 It seemed to be that's most of these documentaries.

Speaker 33 If it makes you happy.

Speaker 32 Oh, God, stop. Not the Cheryl Crow catalog.
We've talked about this on like four different occasions.

Speaker 33 I just learned the tune of that, though. I just, I was proud.

Speaker 32 I mean, a big takeaway. I mean, if they wanted to make some money, they could put on a business.
But

Speaker 33 how much is he involved in that? Or was it his sons and he

Speaker 33 got caught in some

Speaker 33 blowback and or ancillary heat?

Speaker 32 I see what's going on. Dibiase got to you.

Speaker 33 Well, no, I'm asking you. Does he have just, what was he accused of? Because I know that his sons were

Speaker 33 doing things with ministries and state money, and those two things never fucking mix well together. But what was Ted actually doing involved in this?

Speaker 32 They said that I believe he profited from the whole thing. I want to say there was a beach house or something, and also he slapped a child.

Speaker 33 Do what now? No, no, no.

Speaker 32 I added that. Just to get your attention.
No, apparently there was some kind of financial shenanigans that I blew.

Speaker 33 He shooted at an old blind lady.

Speaker 32 And of course,

Speaker 32 there was a mansion on the water, as always.

Speaker 33 A mansion on the water.

Speaker 33 As opposed to smoke on the water or fire in the sky.

Speaker 33 I mean, it's not goddamn nightline. It's not a 2020 piece.
I don't think they're going to talk about his legal issues, except if he had brought it up as part of his wrestling career.

Speaker 32 You think when they bust him for it and they say, what are all these charges? He should go back to his old faithful one. I'm cheating on my wife.

Speaker 33 It was all in the process of having an extramarital affair. And I was trying to.

Speaker 32 I didn't know anyone was going to look at these statements again. I didn't know this was going to happen.

Speaker 33 You would think you'd get your paperwork in order after.

Speaker 32 Well, good story, good documentary.

Speaker 32 It's amazing how when you see the photos of him as a child, other than like the period in the mid and late 80s where he grew out the facial hair and dyed it kind of blonde, he looks exactly facially now like he did when he was a kid.

Speaker 32 Like as soon as you see a picture of Ted DiBiase, you know it's him.

Speaker 33 Yes, and he almost just the

Speaker 33 cheeks and the eyes and the overall shape. And he's always had a damn fine head of hair.

Speaker 32 And deceptively big because he's skinny. He was never big and muscular, like you said earlier, but he's what, 6'3?

Speaker 32 Probably at least.

Speaker 33 Yes, but what's your definition of skinny? Now, there's a ways in there between not muscular and skinny.

Speaker 33 He's always been, I think, 240, 250,

Speaker 33 And he is 6'3. He's a big guy.
He just

Speaker 32 looked at, he looked like it next to the other guys that were that same size, but they were all bulked up. Even when he was on the gas in WWE, he never got bulked up like that.

Speaker 33 Yeah, well, and sometimes, you know, it's not there.

Speaker 33 You can be in go shape better than show shape. If you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 32 Well, speaking of the shape of things, as well as people's personal affairs, we'll be reviewing the Paul Heyman biography on the drive-thru.

Speaker 33 Yes, as I mentioned, because I want to give it some attention, because I want to try to see if I can get any insight into what makes Happy Heyman tick. This is one I want to sit down.

Speaker 33 I didn't want to be interrupted for an hour over. But,

Speaker 33 you know, the thing about DBSI, they showed the modern stuff, the stuff he's doing now. He's preaching.
He's preaching to small rooms.

Speaker 33 Brian, he's preaching.

Speaker 33 in person,

Speaker 33 not the big crowds that

Speaker 33 he was in front of in the stadiums, not the, you know, the major tens of thousands of people and millions that he, that he was addressing on television, but he's down here.

Speaker 33 He's just speaking to a few people. I wonder

Speaker 33 if Ted should set up some kind of

Speaker 33 online presence to sell the religion to the folks, a platform, if you will, where he could get online and instead of standing there in front of 24 people, he could be standing out there in front of 20 billion people all around the world if he just had the platform to sell the product and service that he's trying to sell to the people.

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Speaker 33 well brian i guess we're going to have talk about uh the night before summer slam smackdown

Speaker 33 at cleveland

Speaker 33 the the rocket mortgage field house

Speaker 33 Google five for me if you can how many people they had there while I vamp for you for a second. But

Speaker 33 I'm wondering if this was the old gunned arena and now it's become the Rocket Mortgage Field House.

Speaker 33 Because

Speaker 33 it looks like a big old building,

Speaker 33 but they had a big old building up there already. Anyway, have you got any of this information?

Speaker 32 A couple things here. It opened October 17th, 1994.
It was the Gund Arena.

Speaker 33 Okay.

Speaker 32 SmackDown.

Speaker 32 This is the wrong SmackDown I'm looking at.

Speaker 33 Well, you had one for two at least, but the Gund Arena

Speaker 33 was where they had SummerSlam 96, Vader, and Sean Michaels. And it's a big old building.
I think it seats 1920,000, somewhereabouts.

Speaker 33 And that's where the WWE or F or as it was known then used to run. But it was a brand new place then.

Speaker 33 That's why I couldn't imagine that they had just cast it out like a bad penny and built another one in that time. Go ahead.

Speaker 32 I need another moment if you don't mind.

Speaker 33 Oh, God damn it. See now, see, you usually have these things at your fingertips.

Speaker 33 You had all the information on the gun.

Speaker 33 And the reason why I'm saying this is because let's remember they're in Cleveland. And I know it's SummerSlam, and it's

Speaker 33 a big show and a big destination

Speaker 33 event for wwe fans but they're not in las vegas they're not at nashville for the country music or florida for the weather or

Speaker 33 somewhere else for the whatever they're in cleveland because they had

Speaker 33 what is i'm trying to find goddamn notes here that 57 000 something now even with wwe math

Speaker 33 They had a lot of fucking people in that stadium. Where do they announce? Ah, 57,791 is what they announced for SummerSlam.

Speaker 33 Do we know anything about paid there yet?

Speaker 32 Paid? No, we don't know yet.

Speaker 33 But they announced that many.

Speaker 33 So you add what they had in the fucking Gund Arena, which is an NBA arena.

Speaker 33 It seats 20,000 people, and that was fucking jammed. They had a decent-sized stage, but still,

Speaker 33 the fuck 60 or 70,000 people in Cleveland.

Speaker 33 How is it?

Speaker 33 It's good, but it ain't that good, is it?

Speaker 33 I'm shocked and amazed.

Speaker 33 Anyway,

Speaker 33 they get people to come and pay and park and come in

Speaker 33 to see an infomercial the night before for to advertise the pay-per-view.

Speaker 33 And that's kind of what SmackDown was. And just of note, it won't take us long.
I have observations on,

Speaker 33 you know,

Speaker 33 what happened in a couple of the spoken word interludes.

Speaker 33 They had the Cody

Speaker 33 show down or face off or

Speaker 33 pose down,

Speaker 33 stripped down, whatever with solo.

Speaker 33 And they don't have to do anything. Cody does his entrance.
They chant his name. They sing the wo-wo.

Speaker 33 they go crazy. He's, he got, what do you want to talk about over finally?

Speaker 33 I think he could come out and fucking fart. They'd be, yes, what a great fart.

Speaker 1 Okay. And it's, give me a break.

Speaker 33 Well, I mean, what the this,

Speaker 33 I mean, it's they're telling very good stories.

Speaker 33 But at the same time, still, it's like, are they putting something

Speaker 33 in the in the soft drinks when the people come in the arenas?

Speaker 33 There's some kind of mind control device being. Maybe when you get

Speaker 33 your ticket from Ticketmaster these days, they also chip you so that you're a pawn of the WWE Fan Enforcement Committee.

Speaker 33 They're doing everything they want them to fucking do. As soon as he mentions Solo, they boo him and then they play his music and out comes Solo.

Speaker 33 And he have you noticed he looks like a Samoan Al Sharpton.

Speaker 32 Well, now that you say it, I guess I could see it.

Speaker 33 The thing that comes, he's got a long black coat over the top of another black coat with a gold chain around his neck and the gloves. And he comes, and he looks like

Speaker 33 before Al lost all that weight.

Speaker 33 And as soon as he gets in the ring, they chant, We Want Roman.

Speaker 33 I mean, it's

Speaker 33 he tells the fans to acknowledge him, and the screen goes black.

Speaker 33 Apparently, somebody said, fuck you.

Speaker 33 And they chant, solo sucks. And

Speaker 33 then they speak to each other.

Speaker 33 And Cody delivers that,

Speaker 33 you know,

Speaker 33 staccato

Speaker 33 roller coaster of verbiage in a flawless manner that I know you think is overly dramatic, but it fits this

Speaker 33 Shakespearean scene they've got going on here where the lights are on these people.

Speaker 32 As I am from multiple points in time here to talk to Flash Gordon, like, what is this way of talking? It's just so because at times when he nails the

Speaker 32 Cody can get the humanity of everything better than most, and he also gets the fakeness of the over

Speaker 32 acting of everything.

Speaker 33 The grandiose yeah

Speaker 33 it's grandiosity

Speaker 32 and it was

Speaker 33 it sounds like dusty doing shakespeare yes and alas po yorick

Speaker 33 i knew the motherfucker well horatio

Speaker 32 maybe not that dusty doing uh that's the way he'd do it on the plane

Speaker 33 after after watching the volunteer jam one videotape about three times he was alas po yorick i knew that motherfucker better than anybody.

Speaker 33 But Solo is doing a good job here, given his level of experience, but the whole thing

Speaker 33 was to sell SummerSlam. And then the one part

Speaker 33 they got somehow crossed up or somebody went to business for themselves because Solo was starting to

Speaker 33 offer the challenge or proffer the challenge to make SummerSlam a bloodline rules match when suddenly there's Jacob Fatu coming through the fucking crowd and it stepped on it.

Speaker 33 And then here comes the Tamas and the Loas and the Tongas.

Speaker 33 And

Speaker 33 Cody got it back on track, but they stepped on the challenge there, didn't they?

Speaker 32 Maybe a bit, but I don't think so. I don't think it was that big a deal.
I mean, they got a big reaction when Jacob Fatu started walking out.

Speaker 32 And then, you know, they...

Speaker 33 Yeah, well,

Speaker 33 it stepped on Solo's original offer of it. I think somebody missed a, maybe thought they heard the cue or whatever and sent a guy,

Speaker 33 but then Cody reiterated it. So they heard it.

Speaker 33 So there's that.

Speaker 33 You weren't offended by that.

Speaker 32 Do you think there's much incentive to take on the bloodline rules?

Speaker 33 No, it doesn't make any sense. Yeah, I'll just let you and all of your friends, you know, make it okay for you to just gang up on me and just beat the shit out of it.

Speaker 33 No, it doesn't make any sense, but that

Speaker 33 puts Jeopardy in the baby face's path. And to be honest, all of these people now have given up on having anything make any sense anyway.
They just want to see some fucking Jeopardy.

Speaker 33 I lost on Jeopardy,

Speaker 33 baby.

Speaker 32 I don't remember the woo-woo-woos there, so let's see.

Speaker 33 Remember the Greg Ken band did Jeopardy, and then Weird Al did

Speaker 33 the Jeopardy parody.

Speaker 33 Anyway, Cody Rhodes says to them he's not afraid of the Tongas and he ain't, even though

Speaker 33 he may be dumb or whatever, I'm not afraid of Jacob Fatu, you dumb son of a bitch. And then everybody chanted for Cody

Speaker 33 and Cody agreed for the stipulation, bloodline rules at SummerSlam.

Speaker 33 And then Solo told Cody, well, I'm not going to have them kick your ass now because they're going to win a tag team title night and we're going to kick your ass tomorrow.

Speaker 33 And Cody said, Well, the tribal chief's not here, so I'll settle for the wannabe. And then they all walked off.

Speaker 32 Well, that got a big reaction. You just went through it pretty quick, but when he said that, again, referencing Roman, that he's the real tribal chief, that got a big reaction.

Speaker 33 Yes, it did, because they want to see Roman, hence why they've been chanting, we want Roman. And I didn't mean to throw it off like that, but

Speaker 33 that's the point is that,

Speaker 33 you know,

Speaker 33 they've established the pattern that if these guys,

Speaker 33 you know, get in a ring with somebody, they're going to just kill them and nobody does anything about it.

Speaker 33 And then they just, well, but this time we're not going to fight because they shouldn't fight that close to SummerSlam.

Speaker 33 It's already made, but they have to, they always have to do the thing where, well, they're going to be face to face. So now because they always fight,

Speaker 33 everybody expects to fight.

Speaker 33 And then when they don't fight, everybody's let down because they didn't fight.

Speaker 33 So they kind of painted themselves into a corner there.

Speaker 33 Sometimes

Speaker 33 they don't just always have to be face-to-face every fucking week, is the point I'm making.

Speaker 33 It was already, the match was already made. Everybody was as interested as they were going to be.

Speaker 33 But then they couldn't figure out a way for all these people to run in without it being bloodline rules.

Speaker 33 So they just, well, let's make it bloodline rules.

Speaker 33 Anyway, they had a bunch of fucking matches that didn't mean anything. And then Logan Paul came home.

Speaker 33 Logan Paul came home to Cleveland, even though apparently he's actually from Westlake, Ohio. It's what was revealed a little bit later on.
But

Speaker 33 again,

Speaker 33 this is basic shit. It's see-through shit.
You can see it coming, and it's all working. The people are loving it.

Speaker 33 They hate the piss, or they love the piss being taken out of the heel. They hate.

Speaker 33 They like it when the baby face LA Knight gets, you know, gets over on this fucking asshole.

Speaker 33 This is wrestling 101 with a giant budget where they can have banners made and drop them from the ceiling, and they can

Speaker 33 hire extras or just have people at work in the office now that are wearing a suit just fucking stand, whatever.

Speaker 33 But this was

Speaker 33 a 15-minute segment and it didn't break any revolutionary booking ground and everybody loved every goddamn thing.

Speaker 33 And it's just so simple.

Speaker 33 Nick Aldiss is in the ring. He announces

Speaker 33 he's in the ring with these Cleveland dignitaries, and there's two people and a woman standing behind him.

Speaker 32 Yeah, who were they? Exactly.

Speaker 33 And they were not named. And then he introduces Logan Paul, and the people boo him.
And as he's coming to the ring, the screen goes black two or three times.

Speaker 33 I don't know if they're giving him the finger or they're showing their tally whackers or whatever.

Speaker 33 And they've got a sign in the crowd, Prime Tastes Like Water from Lake Erie.

Speaker 33 And he does a good heel promo. And of course, apparently we're beginning more and more to find out he may be a dick, really.

Speaker 33 So

Speaker 33 now people are really not liking him.

Speaker 33 And they get all over him. And he trashes Cleveland because even though he's from there, you know, he's better than them because he's a success and blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 33 And that's why he brought out these Cleveland dignitaries. And then Aldous said, well, I actually Googled their names, put them in the Google machine, and I couldn't.
find anything.

Speaker 33 And Logan Paul, you're not from around here. You don't know how much they mean.

Speaker 33 And he wants to undo.

Speaker 33 You're not from around here. See, or you'd know.

Speaker 33 And he goes to unveil his championship banner with big fanfare.

Speaker 33 And

Speaker 33 when it drops from the ceiling, it's got yeah

Speaker 33 spray painted across it.

Speaker 33 And again, I said, this is classic wrestling. I have done this thing.

Speaker 33 I did it in Smokey Bound Wrestling when I unveiled the portrait of my mother, Mama Cornette, and the Rock and Roll Express and snuck in and switched a picture of a St.

Speaker 33 Bernard with curlers in its hair or whatever.

Speaker 33 And it's been done in every territory and it all, and the people love it.

Speaker 33 This is a fucking big budget deal.

Speaker 33 And that's when LA Night comes out and he gets a big pop and they chant LA Night and they

Speaker 33 everything he says is over. They yeah and they fill it in

Speaker 33 and he's the one that tells everybody that Logan Paul is from Westlake and gets a pop. And

Speaker 33 he's, I'm going to go, I'm going to go in the back and get you a banner.

Speaker 33 Since I ruined your banner, I'll go get you a banner.

Speaker 33 And so he goes in the back and he just wandered around. And this is like something they would have done with Steve Austin in 1999 or whatever.

Speaker 33 And he asked the jobbers for a banner. He ain't got no banner.

Speaker 33 And finally, he runs into

Speaker 33 the prime hummer.

Speaker 33 And

Speaker 33 at that point,

Speaker 33 Logan Paul in the rings, like my fucking truck. And he starts running to the back.
And L.A. Knight has gotten in it and started it up.
And right as Logan Paul comes running in, L.A.

Speaker 33 Knight drives it off. And Logan Paul chases.
I can't catch it. And that's a crime.

Speaker 33 Is it fucking wrestling?

Speaker 33 Can anything be more basic? And the people are eating it up.

Speaker 32 Nothing could be more basic than a man chasing after a Hummer.

Speaker 32 Good segment. I agree with everything else you said.

Speaker 33 It's as old as time.

Speaker 33 And then they had the women's tag team title on the line with Jaden Bianca against Fire and Ice, and

Speaker 33 the Heels got disqualified because Blair Davenport came up and came up or came out or popped out,

Speaker 32 whatever.

Speaker 32 What did she do? Now I'm completely confused.

Speaker 33 Well, she interfered, is what she did. She came into the ring and came out to the ring, interfered, and they got disqualified and they beat up the babyface.

Speaker 32 And she rose from a subterranean post to get the baby.

Speaker 33 Well, no, she came. She,

Speaker 33 I'm coming out.

Speaker 33 I want the world to know. Got to let it show.

Speaker 33 I'm going to beat these old bad heels up now. All right, anyway.

Speaker 32 That was in your key.

Speaker 33 Yeah, that was my key. All right.
Well, speaking of the key, the key of Jacob Fatu, the Samoan werewolf, is where we're rounding this program out because the men's tag team title

Speaker 33 was also on the line with Champa and...

Speaker 33 Johnny Sameface, who's also from Cleveland.

Speaker 33 He let everybody know in his pre-match interview. They They let him talk.
Jesus Christ.

Speaker 33 They were defending against Tomatonga and Jacob Fatu,

Speaker 33 accompanied by

Speaker 33 Tonga Buyer's Remorse Loa.

Speaker 32 Stop it. He's my favorite guy in the company right now.

Speaker 33 Well,

Speaker 33 so they put Jacob in this thing. And thank God.

Speaker 33 And he's getting over like a superstar. But Gargano, as I said, tried to do a fired-up promo

Speaker 33 because he's a hometown guy. But

Speaker 33 we've seen this. I don't know how he lasts that long

Speaker 33 in this environment where he never gets any different,

Speaker 33 grows as a person, never blossoms like Drew McIntyre has. He's small.
He's plain.

Speaker 33 He's technically proficient. And he looks like a fucking nerd.

Speaker 33 And he's never going going to be a top guy.

Speaker 33 I can understand with Champa,

Speaker 33 he's in his 40s now, and he's had a history of major injuries that he's come back from like a goddamn cyborg.

Speaker 33 But maybe, and he's got a unique look and a style. His work is great,

Speaker 33 but maybe they don't want to invest that much because of those issues. But what the fuck? Why keep this fucking gargano around?

Speaker 33 In this star-filled environment, what does he

Speaker 33 offer to this fucking program except a boring indie presence is my question to you well you wouldn't want to lose a talent like that to aew so you got to do what you can to oh god he'd be perfect over there

Speaker 32 he'd actually probably be in the super heavyweight division over there but look he's not my favorite i'm not a fan of garganos and once you point out his facial expressions it never changes once you hear his promos never changes.

Speaker 32 You realize that's not his thing.

Speaker 32 The skits that he was doing with his wife for a while with Theory and Indy Hartwell, where they all lived together. It was like three's company, but they were four.

Speaker 32 It was terrible.

Speaker 32 Yeah, I mean, people like his matches because he kicks out of moves. He'll take big moves.
He'll kick out of everything. And that's the key.
You can take someone. who looks like dog shit.

Speaker 32 And if they can work a match without getting hurt and just kick out of everything that happens to them, everyone will be raving about him.

Speaker 33 Well, he didn't kick out of everything that happened to him here because it was a decent match, short for this program's norm. And,

Speaker 33 you know, again,

Speaker 33 but Jacob Fatu

Speaker 33 hit Gargano with a pop-up Samoan drop, a springboard moonsault, an implant DDT. One, two, three.

Speaker 33 Thank you for coming and stood over his fallen fucking body. Oh,

Speaker 33 werewolf of Samoa.

Speaker 32 Isn't he from the Bay Area?

Speaker 33 That's what I was doing. I was baying at the moon.

Speaker 33 Now, Harley just turned her head and looked at me. I'm sorry, baby.
It's okay.

Speaker 32 Now, obviously, tag team wrestling and tag team.

Speaker 32 The tag team division has meant nothing, means nothing in WWE because of the way they use it, but every now and then the tag titles end up around or near main event people

Speaker 33 what do you think of the idea of putting the belts on tomatonga and jacob fatu here well this is perfect because even if the belts still don't mean anything because there are not a variety of full-time teams to challenge the Bloodline at the level that they need to be.

Speaker 33 In other words, everybody else is a middle-card fucking talent in the tag team division.

Speaker 33 But with the Bloodline having the gold, it is part of a promise that they're starting to fulfill of winning all the gold again and having this

Speaker 33 hierarchy be dominant like the last one was. So that makes it mean something.
And also, you can have the Ortons and the Owenses and

Speaker 33 people,

Speaker 33 LA Knight, whoever the fuck, teaming up to go after the tag team title. And you can put that in the main.

Speaker 33 You can't have the Bloodline versus pretty deadly or whatever the fuck in any kind of main event,

Speaker 33 but you can pair up the normal single stars that are fighting the bloodline.

Speaker 33 So it's going to be, it's going to hopefully elevate the tag team title rather than the title elevating the team because it's part of the top story now. So I like that.
And obviously,

Speaker 33 we said it was going to happen. It had to happen.
It couldn't go any other way

Speaker 33 because they weren't going to fucking beat

Speaker 33 Jacob Fatu and Tomatonga or any members of the bloodline with Tommaso Champa and

Speaker 33 Jarni Gargano.

Speaker 33 O Jarn.

Speaker 32 Jarni Wrestling.

Speaker 33 Jarni Wrestling. Carney Wrestling, more like it.

Speaker 33 But so that was SmackDown, and that set us up for, again, they're in Cleveland,

Speaker 33 and they've drawn 60-something thousand people

Speaker 33 over two days. And this was a two-hour infomercial for what they were going to be invited to come back and pay to see the following night.

Speaker 33 You know, but am I wrong? How is this?

Speaker 33 It's they have, they've

Speaker 33 TKO has hired a staff of mass hypnotists to cast a spell on these people because

Speaker 33 Just it's elementary shit, but everybody's over and people are fighting to give them their fucking money. How has this transpired?

Speaker 32 I think it goes to the argument that the simple stuff is what works.

Speaker 32 And for years under Vince, they got away from a lot of the simple things that always worked to the point where you would leave a segment of the audience with resentment or they would feel like WWE resented them.

Speaker 32 Yeah. And you don't have that anymore.
And no one's presented in an insulting fashion for the most part.

Speaker 32 I mean, like even the goofy stuff like the models, or not the models, but the model girl and Otis,

Speaker 32 like that's the height of the silliness now. So that ain't that bad because it used to be a whole lot lower.

Speaker 33 Yeah, well,

Speaker 33 quite a while back, Vince was out there pulling his pants down so somebody's head could be shoved up his ass.

Speaker 32 And none of that stuff was on this show. You know, none of the things that fill up SmackDown and Raw, either matches that.
You know, no one for the most part really cares about.

Speaker 32 It's none of the main event people, none of the main event talking segments, or Raw, where you do have some silliness and, of course, the odd zombie or two.

Speaker 32 That wasn't on SummerSlam.

Speaker 32 You know, so it goes to say a little bit about what the priorities are and what's being put on these shows. And again,

Speaker 32 even if,

Speaker 32 you know, the babyface loses, nothing is done in a way that you feel like you're yanking the rug out from the fans.

Speaker 32 And you saw that a lot with Vince, whether it's things like guys losing in their hometown

Speaker 32 for no reason. I mean, I'm not saying everyone has to win like Eddie Gilbert at Memphis.
That doesn't have to be that way everywhere, but it became like a thing to almost like fuck with a wrestler.

Speaker 32 And I don't think right now, Triple H and Nick Khan and Lee Fitting are fucking with the wrestlers. They're collaborating with them.

Speaker 32 And,

Speaker 32 you know, happy wife, happy life, happy wrestling locker room, happy fan base. Who knows?

Speaker 33 Well, and you know, at the top, the Nick Khan's and the TKO people and the Ari Shapiros and Manny Emmanuel.

Speaker 32 Ari Emmanuel, Ari Emmanuel, Mark Shapiro.

Speaker 33 Mark Shapiro. Well, or it could be Ari Shapiro and Mark Emmanuel.

Speaker 32 It could be, but those are different people that don't work for this company or have well, regardless.

Speaker 33 It's a new day. They're just maximizing revenue.

Speaker 33 They're used to.

Speaker 33 It was almost like when some city government heard a wrestling show was coming to town, they're like, oh, shit, we got to try to put a stop to that.

Speaker 33 Now the fucking towns are paying them to please take millions of dollars to come here.

Speaker 33 Ah, Christ. All righty.
Well, they were in Cleveland Brown Stadium for SummerSlam is what they were in or for or there to do.

Speaker 32 Yes, they were all of the above and so much more. You never know what's going to happen with that summertime spectacular.
You used to be the end of summer. Now it's in the middle, summer slam.

Speaker 33 Now it's right dead in the middle where you can't get around it.

Speaker 33 And what a fucking house, what a stadium.

Speaker 33 You know, the last time I was there, it was Municipal Stadium. I have worked Cleveland at a stadium wrestling show.
Of course, it was a stadium baseball and wrestling show.

Speaker 33 In the old Cleveland Municipal Stadium, 1987, the Indians bought a show from Crockett and the Midnight Wrestled, as I recall, the Rock and Roll Express.

Speaker 32 Really? Anything else interesting about that show?

Speaker 33 Well,

Speaker 33 funny that you might ask that.

Speaker 32 Was it after a game game, or was it a day where the team was out of town?

Speaker 33 How did it work? No, no, it was after, it was, they bought a show. It was after a game.
They played a baseball game. It was an afternoon deal.

Speaker 33 And they played a baseball game. And then they had like a four or five matches, I recall, wrestling show.

Speaker 33 And it was at the old stadium back. And

Speaker 33 from what I remember, the crowd was nothing like

Speaker 33 the SummerSlam because a lot of people weren't going to see the Indians back in those days, but there was still probably

Speaker 33 15,000 or whatever. And that's why they had that Super Bowl of wrestling back in 1972, Johnny Powers and Pedro Martinez, the NWF, in the same building as I'm talking about.

Speaker 33 And that flopped. They didn't draw, but maybe 10,000 people.

Speaker 33 So, because it was an overbooked concept. Tony Kahn must have learned more from

Speaker 33 Johnny Powers Powers than anybody else.

Speaker 33 But at the

Speaker 33 well, there you go.

Speaker 33 But no, but at the old stadium, so we had midnight rock and roll, and they told me, I've told you this story before, but

Speaker 33 they told me, they said,

Speaker 33 we got to build the ring now. They got to put the ring up after the baseball game because they put the ring next to home plate so people could see what was going on.

Speaker 33 So

Speaker 33 we're going to call an intermission, but go out and cut a promo and kill a little time, and then we'll call an intermission. We'll get the ring up in that time.

Speaker 33 And so I went out there and some people had come

Speaker 33 because they advertised, and Crockett was on TV in Cleveland, and they knew what was going on with the NWA, and so they had come to see the wrestling. But there was some people

Speaker 33 that just came to see the goddamn Cleveland Indians play baseball, right?

Speaker 33 And they weren't used to hearing

Speaker 33 wrestling promos because they might not have watched wrestling. So when I went out in the first 45 seconds,

Speaker 33 I said the last people the Indians beat was Custer.

Speaker 33 And this, you know, why did they put the rock and roll Hall of Fame here?

Speaker 33 Name one rock and roll star ever from Cleveland, a mistake on the lake. I fired them up so bad they started throwing shit

Speaker 33 and were trying to climb over the God. I don't know what they call the

Speaker 33 fencing they have between the grandstands and the fucking field in baseball. And the baseball people came and gave me the egg.
You said, go ahead and cut it off now.

Speaker 33 Go on by, Will.

Speaker 33 You killed enough time.

Speaker 33 But that was a, you know,

Speaker 33 they had the Cleveland Indians were playing ball then in this dilapidated rundown stadium and they didn't draw 20,000 people.

Speaker 32 I don't think it's the same stadium.

Speaker 33 Well, no, that's what I'm saying. Back then,

Speaker 33 they're in a dilapidated stadium and they didn't draw 20,000 people. And now they got this giant fucking

Speaker 33 Super Bowl stadium and they got 60,000 people there for fucking wrestling.

Speaker 32 Do you like the movie Major League?

Speaker 33 I'm trying to remember if I ever watched the movie Major League.

Speaker 32 Really? It seems like it would be right down your alley.

Speaker 32 Charlie Sheen, Wesley Snipes, Tom Behringer, the Cleveland Indians suck, and they somehow turn it around to get their ex-showgirl owner and really teach her a lesson.

Speaker 33 I've seen the poster. I remember the poster.

Speaker 32 We need to do a review. You may like this movie.

Speaker 33 Did they pattern the owner on Marge Schott?

Speaker 32 No, more like Hank Gunkel, maybe. No, actually, I don't know.

Speaker 32 It wasn't like Marge Schott. But I'm very serious.
You may actually really enjoy that movie more than any other baseball movie ever.

Speaker 33 Was this before Charlie Sheen went mad?

Speaker 32 Before.

Speaker 32 Wow, you hear that thunder?

Speaker 33 Oh, wow, now they're coming for you?

Speaker 32 Holy shit, that's a long thunder. No, Charlie Sheen had already gone mad.
It's just it wasn't out in the public really yet.

Speaker 33 Okay, so we didn't know that yet. Yeah.

Speaker 32 Well, we'll

Speaker 33 check back in with that. Speaking of people that have gone mad,

Speaker 33 the people went mad over Triple H

Speaker 33 at the start of the fucking show.

Speaker 33 They

Speaker 33 time to play the game and Triple H makes his entrance into the aisle. Well, he he doesn't even have to walk all the way to the ring.
It might put too much stress on him.

Speaker 33 But he does the promo in the aisle and welcomes everybody to SummerSlam. And now they love him.

Speaker 33 Whereas before, they,

Speaker 33 no matter who was in the creative spot, they knew Vince was in charge, the fans I'm talking about being they, too many pronouns, pal.

Speaker 33 They didn't like Vince, and they didn't like what Vince was doing to their favorite wrestlers, and they were mad at Vince, and that made the company heels.

Speaker 33 And now they have done away with all this fucking bullshit.

Speaker 33 Heel,

Speaker 33 Evil Empire, McMahon ownership of the company. People are smart that that's gone.

Speaker 33 And Triple H is the guy that's bringing them all this great wrestling with these stars that they love.

Speaker 33 So they love him to love is in the air, Brian. Love the Cupid's arrows are flying.

Speaker 32 And the other thing is now this is becoming a semi-regular thing on these big big events you know vince did it for wrestlemania 3 everyone remembers that but triple h is now coming out to do the intro for these shows on a lot of these shows and it's getting the right reaction it's getting people amped up people are cheering them no one's yelling hey you bald asshole

Speaker 32 hey why haven't you returned my calls dick like no none of that or anything else uh there's more thunder boy they really are coming for me but it's but he's doing intros now the the what do you think of the idea of of the promoter, you know, for lack of a better term for the fans?

Speaker 32 He's the promoter doing an intro to these shows.

Speaker 33 Well, he's smart and it's perfect because he's still not

Speaker 33 the top guy in this hierarchy anymore. But the more that he becomes the face like

Speaker 33 old Dana White

Speaker 33 and his fucking political activities, but he's the face of the UFC, The more the Triple H is the face of the WWE, not only he's doing a good job, but the more he ingrains himself into that position.

Speaker 33 Like,

Speaker 33 do you want to take me away from them? They trust me.

Speaker 33 The fans love me because I bring them this wrestling. So it's a smart thing to do, but also it babyfaces

Speaker 33 the company in general with the fans that have been disaffected for that's why AEW worked in the beginning to the extent that it did. Not that it was ever really any good,

Speaker 33 but because it was something for the people who hated Vince and Vince's wrestling to cheer for.

Speaker 33 And now that they don't have to hate the other company, and the other company has all the stars, and the other company is giving them shit they want,

Speaker 33 that's why only the

Speaker 33 really drooly knuckle-draggy type of goofy comedy wrestling fan

Speaker 33 is still rabid,

Speaker 33 you know, in support of the other guys that don't make sense and present a secondary product.

Speaker 33 That's why I think I said this a year ago when this whole thing started to emerge, that AEW has lost their primary weapon, which was that so many people just didn't want to like the WWE.

Speaker 33 Now they're like, oh shit, this is great.

Speaker 33 And so, and I ain't got time for that other stuff.

Speaker 33 That's just me, but I think it

Speaker 33 there may be something to that fucking thought, just if you dig down in it. But then, Triple H,

Speaker 33 I'll say this and I'll let you comment, Brian, got heat with me by introducing Jelly Roll,

Speaker 33 who sang something in the ring. I bet now that he's a celebrity, he's rethinking those prison tattoos on his fucking face.

Speaker 32 I don't know. It's kind of the end thing now with some of the kids, especially if, you know, you want to show that you're hard.

Speaker 33 Well, but I don't care whether he's hard or not. By the way, did you see the size of that belly? He probably can't tell whether he's hard or not.

Speaker 32 Again, I don't know. What was the thing?

Speaker 33 Well, the thing with... With Jelly Roll, he walked in the gym one day where I was working out.

Speaker 33 You.

Speaker 33 and I, yeah, I was working out. He walked in the gym

Speaker 33 and I said, holy shit, look at you, the size of you, you're fat.

Speaker 33 And he said, yeah, I know I'm fat.

Speaker 33 And I said, how long has it been since you've seen your dick? And he said, it's been a long time.

Speaker 33 And I said, why don't you dye it? And he said, why? What color is it now?

Speaker 32 All right. You know, there's no reason to, once again, this man has to go through life with those tattoos.
There's no reason to make fun of him.

Speaker 33 On his face, on his fucking face.

Speaker 33 Anyway, and The Miz is the host in the crowd. He's the host with the least.

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Speaker 33 But they started out with the women's title: Rhea Ripley, Liv Morgan.

Speaker 33 Rhea Ripley, accompanied by Dominic Mysterio,

Speaker 33 Mommy, and

Speaker 33 Pooh Pooh are back together again. What does she call him?

Speaker 32 Dom Dom

Speaker 33 Dom Dom, Dum Dum, Bam, Bam, whatever. Anyway,

Speaker 33 you know,

Speaker 33 I think you will probably agree with me here

Speaker 33 that Rhea Ripley is the best talent currently in women's wrestling and maybe of all time in women's wrestling at an in-ring level.

Speaker 33 She's very good on promos and she's really over, but just in ring, she stands out, I think, above any other female in the business.

Speaker 33 And I've

Speaker 32 you asked me, so I'm going to jump in on here and make sure I'm on the record.

Speaker 32 I agree. And in terms of who we've seen here in the United States on TV, I don't think anyone's ever been better than her.

Speaker 33 And at the same time, I've said that

Speaker 33 not much on Liv Morgan,

Speaker 33 but they've told a great story here.

Speaker 33 And

Speaker 33 they've got the people into it.

Speaker 33 And I like this because Liv Morgan is still in the ring to me as sloppy and unbelievable. And I just, I don't, I don't get it.

Speaker 33 And, you know, if she was a little weasly manager or something, blah, blah, blah, I'd like her a lot more.

Speaker 33 But nevertheless, the match was good because Rhea Ripley can make something out of any kind of a match. And because people were into it because of the story.
So Liv is still not

Speaker 33 Mildred Burke,

Speaker 33 but this worked. And again,

Speaker 33 there was some element of psychology and logic placed in it that Rhea is twice her size and she ran from Rhea and hid from her until finally Rhea caught her and beat her up for a while.

Speaker 33 But then when

Speaker 33 Rhea had a miscalculation and got her bad shoulder run into the turnbuckle,

Speaker 33 Then she could sell the bad shoulder, which she does so well

Speaker 33 and gave her a reason to sell for tiny little live and to be at a disadvantage against tiny little live.

Speaker 33 And,

Speaker 33 you know, again, Ripley's,

Speaker 33 the basics, the facials, the little things are fantastic. That

Speaker 33 I got to be honest with you, most women, even the really good women, don't pick up on.

Speaker 33 And I would have to be sitting here breaking down video to show you what I'm talking about. But

Speaker 33 anyway,

Speaker 33 I'm not sure

Speaker 33 that I like the idea. At one point, Liv Morgan goes for the dive on Rhea.
She's on the floor, and Dominic shoves Rhea out of the way and eats the dive.

Speaker 33 And that was fine for a spot like it was. People reacted to it.
But with where they ended up going,

Speaker 33 I wish they hadn't done that to me. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to spoil it for the people who haven't heard it yet.

Speaker 32 You think it was too much doing it that first time?

Speaker 33 It doesn't make sense with what's going to happen later.

Speaker 33 Why would he want her to miss? You see what I'm saying?

Speaker 32 Right.

Speaker 32 Yeah. I mean, unless they're going to come up with some argument, but what's the argument?

Speaker 33 And he could have easily

Speaker 33 looked up and seen her flying and gone, oh shit, and put his hands over his head because he is a chicken shit prick. And

Speaker 33 he wouldn't have committed

Speaker 33 and he could have, you know, got out of the way. Whatever.
Anyway,

Speaker 33 finally, after Rhea

Speaker 33 had sold the shoulder, it's out, she's screaming, it's out to people, she does the deal where she runs it into the desk and, quote, puts it back in and makes her come back.

Speaker 33 Is that a Mel Gibson thing? Because he's from Australia, too?

Speaker 32 Oh, I don't know. I thought, you know, he's a schmuck.
I don't know if anyone goes based on that. Do you think that was done much in this?

Speaker 33 Well, Stacey pointed that out because she said, said, Well, that's what Mel Gibson was doing in the movies. And that's where they got the idea because he's Australian.
I don't know.

Speaker 32 He didn't write the movie. But

Speaker 33 well, he goddamn perpetrated it.

Speaker 32 What do you think of that spot? Because that was again done in a similar fashion later in this match.

Speaker 33 I think if she did it once, it was fine.

Speaker 33 When she did it again, I'm like, you know, if my shoulder had been separated, I don't know if I want to run it into that turnbuckle again another couple times.

Speaker 33 But nevertheless, it wasn't a great match. Liv is awkward, awkward, but they got the story.

Speaker 33 And Liv kept going to the arm. And finally, then they did a spot.
Here's the again.

Speaker 33 Liv Morgan gets a chair and comes in the ring. And the referee stands there and looks at her.
This is not a no disqualification match.

Speaker 33 But she just, because she hasn't used it yet, somehow if you bring a foreign object into the ring and get caught, it's a disqualification rule has morphed into,

Speaker 33 well, we'll just stand stand there and maybe admonish you until you actually kill somebody with it, and then we're going to punish you for it.

Speaker 33 So

Speaker 33 Liv then goes to hit Rhea with the chair, but Rhea kicks her and she drops the chair and the referee leaves it laying in the right place because it's in the right place.

Speaker 33 This is starting to sound like lazy booking.

Speaker 33 And it was. They want to do something, but goddamn, take some more care to get there.

Speaker 33 So the referee doesn't pick the chair up, and Rhea hits the riptide

Speaker 33 on Liv and then sees the chair and picks it up. And all the day she thinks she's going to have good luck and draws back.

Speaker 33 And then Dominic grabs the chair and takes it away from her

Speaker 33 and says, you can't win like this. Meanwhile, the referee has tried to do nothing.

Speaker 33 So Dominic says, you can't win like this and she's like why can't i win like this

Speaker 33 and as they're discussing this liv kicks rhea into dominic

Speaker 33 who gets knocked down and then liv hits her sloppy finish where she jumps into the ropes and falls backwards and whatever and gets a two count

Speaker 33 and then dominic slides the chair back in the ring and draws the referee

Speaker 33 so that one would think Rhea Ripley could pick up the chair and he's had a change of heart, but instead, he's where he slid it in.

Speaker 33 Liv ran and jumped into the ropes and did her sloppy finish to Rhea on the chair and pinned Rhea Ripley one, two, three.

Speaker 33 And everybody, what the fuck, what the fuck? And then Liv rolls out, and Dominic,

Speaker 33 that no good, that, that, that reprehensible CAD,

Speaker 33 that bounder, that rap scallion,

Speaker 33 he picked Liv up and he hugged and he kissed her right on the mouth and everything

Speaker 33 and left with Liv and ran out on Rhea.

Speaker 33 And you just know she's going to have to do something about that.

Speaker 33 If I was in high school again, I could appreciate this more, but the people are into it.

Speaker 32 You know, Dominic and Liv Together could be a heat machine.

Speaker 33 Just a heat machine. And I don't work for nobody.
You

Speaker 33 make me think of something.

Speaker 32 I'm trying to make you stop. When Dominic was first with Rhea, she was still a heel to the point where the fans weren't cheering her yet.

Speaker 33 Yes.

Speaker 32 Now it's awkward. Now it changes everything.
All of a sudden, now he's with the...

Speaker 32 I don't think, is there any woman in the women's division with more heat than Liv Morgan?

Speaker 33 Well, probably not because she's the the one that just stole Dominic away from Rhea.

Speaker 33 That means she's one of the mean girls.

Speaker 33 I think she's actually personally, I think she saved Dominic a lot of heartbreak because Rhea was going to trade up at some point.

Speaker 33 She's too big of a star to have little Dominic trailing around with her.

Speaker 32 Well, we'll see what happens, but that was the opening match. I thought it was a fun match.
Whatever sloppiness you're attributing to Liv Morgan, Rhea Ripley saved.

Speaker 32 Like the spot where she landed on the chair, all these different things.

Speaker 33 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 32 Rhea Ripley, the way she moves around the ring,

Speaker 32 you believe she's hurt a lot, even when she's not. She's, I think, the very best we've ever seen.

Speaker 33 Yeah, so that's so that's why you're saying you can accept Liv if Liv is even if Liv is sloppy. You wouldn't mind sloppy Liv Morgan.

Speaker 32 Once again, ladies and gentlemen, Jim Cornette.

Speaker 33 Well, in the back toilets. In the back of the building, the Judgment Day Clubhouse, Dominic Priest came in and was pissed and is asking JD Funco and Finn and Carlito,

Speaker 33 where's Dominic? And then he snatched Finn up. Did you know about this? And Finn's like, no.

Speaker 33 Well, where is the little prick?

Speaker 33 And everybody scampers out to find Dominic. They put out the APB.

Speaker 33 And because Priest is not happy about what's happened here, he has brought dishonor to the Judgment Day.

Speaker 32 He asked for the prick McAfee yelled piece of shit, I think, at the end of the first match. I think asshole may have gotten on this show as well.

Speaker 33 Yeah, he was on it. He was on it, but he was in one of the later matches.

Speaker 32 What do you think, though, of this? It's not the attitude error or anything, but the idea that they're opening up the language thing.

Speaker 32 So if you are watching with a kid still, they're now just introducing all. I mean, we're a few weeks away, maybe from fuck.

Speaker 33 Well, see, the thing is, I used to on pay-per-view, you know, okay, yes, then you could say asshole or, you know, prick or whatever. But now

Speaker 33 this is not really pay-per-view. It's on Peacock.
So the kids have it in their very own home.

Speaker 33 But I guess, have you seen the kids running around in the fucking hills and valleys these days?

Speaker 33 They probably heard worse than asshole.

Speaker 33 But it is quite a

Speaker 33 departure from

Speaker 33 when they couldn't say boo to a goose because Vince was mad that they wouldn't get a sponsorship from Gerber Baby Food or whatever.

Speaker 32 What do you think of this dynamic? The idea that Priest is upset that Rhea, who he was one of the founders of Judgment Day with, was screwed over by Dominic.

Speaker 33 Well, that's perfect with where they're going later on, which we kind of

Speaker 33 called all this shit, didn't we? Pretty much all of it.

Speaker 33 I think we have to go back and listen to our predictions, but I think we were fairly well accurate in much of the things that we said.

Speaker 33 As far as the way the things were going to turn out here, flesh out, shake out,

Speaker 33 rattle and roll out, whatever, who was going to win. We'd done pretty good, didn't we?

Speaker 33 Speaking of which, for the Intercontinental title, Sami Zayn versus Braun Breaker.

Speaker 33 And I'm sure that a lot of the

Speaker 33 modern fan, the AEW type of fan, would just be

Speaker 33 just putrefied by this match because it didn't go that long.

Speaker 33 It didn't seem like it was seven or eight minutes. I don't know if it was that.

Speaker 33 But oh, what a rotten match because

Speaker 33 they made the step to

Speaker 33 get Braun Breaker over

Speaker 33 by beating Sami Zayn, who went 25 minutes with Roman Reigns in about seven fucking minutes. And that's smart.
And that's what it doesn't hurt

Speaker 33 Zami Zami Zayn or Jaja Gabor it doesn't hurt Sami Zayn he's already over it was done well there was a reason for it

Speaker 33 and both guys did it perfectly and Braun Breaker

Speaker 33 gets over as a goddamn beast

Speaker 33 it was back and forth Sami using the

Speaker 33 speed and agility and Braunbreaker being physical and mauling him.

Speaker 33 And apparently now

Speaker 33 McAfee was calling it a Brekensteiner instead of a Frankensteiner.

Speaker 33 There was some controversy. People have been trying to analyze what it was he said because it sounds so similar.
But he's been calling it the Breaking Steiner, but they're still

Speaker 33 acknowledging that Braun Breaker is a Steiner because Rick and Scott Steiner were in the goddamn skybox watching the match.

Speaker 32 Yeah, this doesn't clarify that he's not a member of the Franken family. This has nothing to do with that.

Speaker 33 Yeah, well, you know,

Speaker 33 I'll tell you what, if he was a member of the Franken family, he would have a goddamn ton of money because after they invented Frankenberry, they fucking cleaned up.

Speaker 33 Cereal magnates is what they were.

Speaker 32 What do you think of Booberry?

Speaker 33 Well, I wasn't much on Booberry.

Speaker 32 What about Count Chocula?

Speaker 33 Count Chocula, I don't think you should mix your chocolate with your cereal, but did you notice that Booberry was the one that disappeared? You never saw Booberry again.

Speaker 32 I've seen them in recent years. I guess they bring it back for people who still want to taste it.
What do you mean chocolate shouldn't be with cereal? You don't like cocoa puffs or something?

Speaker 33 No, no, chocolate should not be with cereal. Cereal is in the morning and chocolate is in the evening.

Speaker 32 Don't you know? In the evening. No, I didn't know this.
Chocolate's in the evening.

Speaker 33 Yes, because chocolate is a dessert. It's a candy.
It's something you eat after a meal. You can't mix

Speaker 33 chocolate with your breakfast unless you stayed up all night.

Speaker 33 Anyway, so they had a Braun and Sammy. They had a really quick back and forth, boom, fast-paced.
Braun hit a big spear, got the speed up for the big spear, and speared him one, two, three,

Speaker 33 and won the Intercontinental title as we've predictified he would.

Speaker 33 And it's also, Brian, feel free to chime in on this: the ugliest championship belt ever, that intercontinental belt belt they're using right now.

Speaker 33 You can't remember what it looks like, can you?

Speaker 32 Oh, no, I was listening to the rain outside. I apologize.
No, I mean, it's

Speaker 32 I don't think it's that bad. You think it's that bad?

Speaker 33 I think it looks like shit.

Speaker 33 Why? I really did. Just

Speaker 33 one color because it's just like one it's it's one color. It kind of looks,

Speaker 33 you know, it doesn't stand out, it doesn't have prominent features. It's just like a hubcap,

Speaker 33 A fancy hubcap.

Speaker 33 Speaking of a fancy hubcap,

Speaker 33 can Logan Paul find any weirder-looking fucking friends?

Speaker 32 Well, when you're looking for unemployed people to hang on, there's only so many people you could pick from.

Speaker 33 Every one of his friends, they are all named by their initials. They all dress inappropriately, look very, he came out with some skinny tattooed guy named MGK.

Speaker 32 That's Machine Gun Kelly. He's a musician.

Speaker 33 Well, he must be. He had his fingernails painted.
He had a razor blade earring. He weighed about 120 pounds, even though he stood apparently about six feet tall.

Speaker 33 And he had, again, an

Speaker 33 obvious prison tattoo.

Speaker 33 How long did he spend in jail to get all those tattoos?

Speaker 33 What the? Who are these fucking people?

Speaker 32 Are you slapping stuff? What are you doing over there?

Speaker 33 I turned

Speaker 33 my chair creaked here as I moved in it.

Speaker 32 Were you slapping before that? Before the creak?

Speaker 33 I may have put my pen in again.

Speaker 32 Okay, that may have been it. That may have been it.

Speaker 33 Would you like me to slap somebody?

Speaker 32 I have a few candidates if you need a list.

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 33 Well, anyways, Logan Paul and LA Knight for the U.S. title.
And Logan Paul comes out with the skinny guy named MGK, I guess, machine gun Kelly, you say.

Speaker 33 He's so skinny when he gets a sunburn, he looks like a thermometer. When he sticks his tongue out and turns sideways, he looks like a zipper.
He could hula hoop with a Cheerio.

Speaker 33 He has to run around in a shower to get wet.

Speaker 32 All right.

Speaker 33 He could fucking limbo through a garden hose.

Speaker 33 Anyway,

Speaker 33 they had the match for the U.S. title.
And as we mentioned, L.A. Knight needs to produce.
But the people here were with him.

Speaker 33 He drove up in the prime truck that he stole Friday night and broke one of the windows out and then made the entrance. And Logan Paul jumpstarts it and they fight on the floor.

Speaker 33 They fight into the prime cart. And

Speaker 33 Logan Paul spits prime in L.A. Knight's face.
I bet that could have blinded you. That kind of battery acid stuff.

Speaker 33 And he cleared off the desk, and then LA did the yeah heads to the desk and gave Logan Paul a big neck breaker on the desk.

Speaker 33 And then they got in a ring and the referee rang the bell.

Speaker 33 Remember when,

Speaker 33 again,

Speaker 33 whenever both guys got in a ring or came near the ring and they started fighting, the referee was like, oh, shit, ring the bell. Here we go.

Speaker 33 Now they can fight, apparently, for 10 minutes, but as long as they don't both get in the ring, the referee doesn't have to ring the fucking bell. When did this rule change pop up?

Speaker 32 I don't know. They change all sorts of rules for counting and referees, and what's a DQ and a countdown? Countdown.
Countdown. Countdown.

Speaker 33 Instant replay. I get to hit.

Speaker 33 Well, anyway,

Speaker 33 this was, again, it was a good match. It wasn't anything revolutionary.
It was exactly what it needed to be, babyface against heel. They love L.A.
Knight. They hate Logan Paul.

Speaker 33 And so L.A. Knight cooked on him, and then Logan Paul posted him and started some heat.
L.A. Knight fought from underneath.

Speaker 33 Finally, made a comeback.

Speaker 33 You know, hit an elbow off the top rope and got a two-count. And then

Speaker 33 Logan Paul did a springboard moonsault to the floor on LA night out of fucking, I don't know where the fuck he came up with that.

Speaker 32 That was fucking incredible. There was no like, you know, okay, he's going to run to the ropes and set it up, and you can anticipate it.
It was quick, and he hit it perfectly.

Speaker 33 And that's the thing. This guy is 6'2 or 6'3 or whatever he is.
He's fucking 200 and

Speaker 33 enough pounds that he's got abs and a chest. It's not like the

Speaker 33 Cirque d'Solee crew doing this shit when something like that from that guy gets people's attention.

Speaker 33 And then

Speaker 33 Logan Paul hit a KO punch with his

Speaker 33 steel-impacted hand and got a two-count.

Speaker 33 And then L.A. Knight did his thing where he ran to the top rope and did a superplex and got a two-count.

Speaker 33 Almost didn't get Logan Paul turned over, but he got him.

Speaker 33 And then suddenly L.A. Knight goes out on the floor and just pulls two of Logan Paul's stooges over the rail and starts kicking the shit out of them.

Speaker 33 But when that happens,

Speaker 33 MGK hands Logan Paul the brass nuts that are on a chain

Speaker 33 around his neck. Now he's not only carrying nugs, but he's got a big chain too.

Speaker 33 And that's why I made a note. Why are all of Logan Paul's friends people that look like they should be on probation?

Speaker 33 I think he should

Speaker 33 maybe vet his social circle more carefully. And then Logan Paul hits L.A.
Knight with the Nucks and tries a buckshot Lariat, but L.A. Knight ducked it and hit his finish one, two, three.

Speaker 33 So this was not an Eddie Graham finish. It was basic and

Speaker 33 easy, but it got a big pop because the people wanted to see L.A. Knight win that belt.
It was a good match. It was an okay finish, but it was definitely the right result.

Speaker 33 And now they've kept L.A. Knight

Speaker 33 in a position where, if he had failed here, I'm afraid

Speaker 33 people

Speaker 33 would not have said, yeah.

Speaker 33 But now they've got him in a position where, as they still dislike Logan Paul as much as they always did, it didn't hurt him a bit.

Speaker 33 So, hey,

Speaker 33 again,

Speaker 33 nobody had to die in the making of this motion picture, and people got exactly what they wanted.

Speaker 32 Yeah, really good match. Logan doesn't lose anything.
LA Knight needed this one. This was make or break, and now he gets a big title win in the stadium.
And we'll see where they go from here.

Speaker 32 I mean, Logan Paul is not exactly full-time. We had heard rumors that he may be at some point, but it's not happened yet.

Speaker 32 And

Speaker 32 this way, you get the title on someone who's on every single week.

Speaker 33 Well, but at the same time, it doesn't necessarily mean it's over because obviously Logan Paul can be,

Speaker 33 you know,

Speaker 33 incensed about this and want to get even and whatever so they can work a little program. But now

Speaker 33 when Logan Paul gets heat on L.A. Knight,

Speaker 33 it's not doing any damage to L.A. Knight's aura within reason because L.A.
Knight's still the champion. And this fucking guy's jumping him from behind and trying to get an advantage or whatever.

Speaker 33 But L.A. Knight has proven himself.
He he won the big one now can he keep the big one so that you know

Speaker 33 i think it's better for our friend la if i can be so bold as to use his first name and call him l a

Speaker 33 i i don't want to you know overstep my bounds of familiarity but what is it supposed to stand for lawrence

Speaker 32 allen

Speaker 33 well who would la knight be one would think a los angeles but then what if it turns out his name is logan too well they say that it they say that he's from Maryland, but he's LA Knight, but you know, he could be LA Day,

Speaker 33 LA Day, LA Knight, Marianne. Same thing if he's from LA and you know, you got the boogie knights out there.
Maybe he's got a large phallic symbol,

Speaker 33 and that's why they call him LA.

Speaker 32 I don't know how this got from one place to another here. I just said, what do you think LA stands for? And

Speaker 32 you went to boogie nights and large phallic symbols.

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Speaker 33 Well, now, Brian, it was that time in the program at SummerSlam that comes at some point all the time where you get up and you go and you take a poop.

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Speaker 33 that type of thing, but

Speaker 33 I can't watch this giant.

Speaker 33 Barko lounger fucking roam around the ring. It makes me, it gives me anxiety, like the kids say.
Did you watch this?

Speaker 32 First of all, you never said these kind of things about Jerry Blackwell or even Stan Frazier. It was never, I can't watch this walking couch.

Speaker 32 You didn't say any shit about them.

Speaker 33 No, because Frazier was a walking fucking appliance box.

Speaker 32 Oh, well,

Speaker 32 that settles that.

Speaker 32 That settles that.

Speaker 33 No, I always said Frazier was the shits, too.

Speaker 33 Lawler could every once in a while could draw some money with him, but.

Speaker 32 The fact that you knew she was going to win the title, did that help or hurt you watching the match?

Speaker 33 I didn't really know, but I suspectified because of the push they've been giving her. And this whole thing with Tiffany,

Speaker 33 Tiffany Stratton. I was trying to think of the name of the power tool that she's named after.
It wasn't Black and Decker, it's Briggs and Stratton.

Speaker 33 Maybe Tiffany Black or Tiffany Decker

Speaker 33 would have been better.

Speaker 32 Well, you see, if you would accept their offer of being the head of creative, you could have suggested that, but instead, no, you got to stay home.

Speaker 33 And well, that's that's what's because they got the deal with Pepsi, and I wanted a

Speaker 33 sprite contract.

Speaker 32 You see, Pepsi's not the number two anymore.

Speaker 33 Who is number two?

Speaker 32 I think I saw that it was a certain one, but before I make a fool of myself, let me double-check.

Speaker 33 Number two, of course, we're saying the soft drink field we're talking about.

Speaker 32 Dr. Pepper is now the number two soda.

Speaker 33 Dr. Peeper has overtaken Pepsi? Dr.

Speaker 32 Pepper has overtaken Pepsi.

Speaker 33 Well, that surprises me.

Speaker 32 Where do you stand on Coke versus Pepsi?

Speaker 33 Well, I don't like either one because they got the caffeine and that'll poison me. But I was always a Pepsi person

Speaker 33 previously, but I, at the same time,

Speaker 33 would acknowledge the fact that Coke is the original. Coke is like Kleenex.

Speaker 33 You know, it's just, it's

Speaker 33 ubiquitous. And I can't believe that Dr.
Pepper, with that weird concoction of synthetic flavors that they've got going for him, has passed by one of the great American cola companies.

Speaker 32 And they say he's not even a doctor.

Speaker 33 He never passed any examination that I've heard of. I've never seen a diploma.

Speaker 32 All right. Well, it makes me want to have a Dr.
Pepper. So why don't we get back to Bailey versus Nia Jack?

Speaker 33 Well, we'll go to the refrigerator.

Speaker 32 Well done.

Speaker 33 Well done. Well, we'll just reach our hand in.

Speaker 33 And Bailey foiled a bonsai.

Speaker 33 Fridge was going for the bonsai and Bailey got up under her and not only powerbombed her off the buckles, but carried her. So I have to tip my hat that I'm not wearing here.
I'll tip my headset

Speaker 33 to Bailey for that one. Hit the elbow off the top to count.

Speaker 33 And then here runs out Tiffany with the briefcase.

Speaker 33 And Bailey nails her off the apron. And the refrigerator fucking stops Bailey and hits her with two power bombs and two working bonsais.
At least she

Speaker 33 either she likes Bailey or they gave her a talking to

Speaker 33 about the plummeting of the ass into people's rib cages.

Speaker 33 One, two, three, the refrigerator wins the match

Speaker 33 for the other women's title. Sort of like the other white meat.

Speaker 33 This is the other women's title. It's the pork product of the WWE.

Speaker 33 What did you think of this? You saw more of it than I did.

Speaker 32 Yeah, I mean, it was fine for what it was. I did see a minute or two, and then I decided to go to bed.
This is actually what chased me off of the post-show press conference.

Speaker 32 And here was the big, mean heel Nia Jax, just very happy talking about how grateful she is for the opportunity. And

Speaker 32 so it's like you can't even say, like, okay,

Speaker 32 she's finally getting it. And she's a great monster heel.
No, she immediately wanted to like celebrate with the world that I gave her the title at SummerSlam.

Speaker 33 Oh, Christ.

Speaker 32 But we'll see. We'll see where they go.

Speaker 33 She's a very polite monster.

Speaker 33 Yes. It's what you're saying.
She's very polite. She wants to thank everybody for the opportunities they give her.

Speaker 33 Would Frankenstein have thanked the villagers for the pitchforks?

Speaker 32 I mean, the heel went and hugged her mom at Ringside and then

Speaker 32 gave a hug to the Rock's mom as well.

Speaker 32 That's usually not a heel move to start hugging senior citizens at ringside.

Speaker 32 Yeah, hugging old women and mothers at ringside.

Speaker 33 It worked for Abdullah the Butcher for all those years.

Speaker 33 All right, let's move along because the main event was next. Not the last match, but the main event of SummerSlam was next.

Speaker 33 It was, of course, the grudge match long anticipated and awaited between CM Punk and Drew McIntyre, the Scottish psychopath, with...

Speaker 33 Seth Franklin Rollins doing his

Speaker 33 best job of dressing as Elton John if he was refereeing.

Speaker 33 And I mean, this

Speaker 33 to me was the main event because this

Speaker 33 they wanted to see what was going to happen with Cody and Solow,

Speaker 33 whether Roman was going to come back, what the bloodline was going to do. Nobody really believed Solo was going to win the belt.

Speaker 33 And the anticipation was more as a personal issue on

Speaker 33 McIntyre and Punk.

Speaker 33 And it was perfect. As I said,

Speaker 33 they had their first match,

Speaker 33 and still

Speaker 33 the whole focus was

Speaker 33 really the interaction with Seth Rollins. So they've had their first match on a major event, and they still have all kinds of shit they can do in a rematch without Seth as referee, or

Speaker 33 both of these guys in singles matches against Seth because they set everything up.

Speaker 33 So, this was Bridge. They didn't waste a thing here.

Speaker 33 It was like when they were making sausage, they got the snout in, the anus, they got everything. They didn't waste a bit of this.

Speaker 33 And you got

Speaker 33 Seth's entrance, and the people

Speaker 33 chant and sing, and whoa.

Speaker 33 And you got McIntyre's entrance, and he's got heat, and the people are

Speaker 33 on him. And then you got Lacka Mussolini

Speaker 33 in Cleveland.

Speaker 33 And you got the big, it's clobbering time. And you got the in a stadium, as Michael Cole said, the first time in 10 years that CM Punk has had a singles match on WWE television.

Speaker 33 So this was

Speaker 33 this was the big fight feel.

Speaker 33 And they did it perfect because,

Speaker 33 again, they've still got, they have so many other directions to go and so many other things they can do, even in a rematch with Punk and Drew. The crowd was hot for it.

Speaker 33 And the little things, the little interactions.

Speaker 33 Punk threw his hoodie on Seth

Speaker 33 before the match even started. And Seth just doesn't sell it and takes it.
And as he's walking to throw it out of the ring, wipes his ass with it and then throws it.

Speaker 33 But anyway,

Speaker 33 should we talk about the match now that I've droned on about the

Speaker 33 concept of they've still got every which way to go?

Speaker 32 Yes, we should talk about the match.

Speaker 33 We should talk about the match. They laid their shit in

Speaker 33 and they

Speaker 33 would basically they started out. One guy would have

Speaker 33 the

Speaker 33 momentum would have charge of things until Seth would exert his authority. And then while they were arguing, the other guy would take over.

Speaker 33 And then, when

Speaker 33 something was happening that Seth

Speaker 33 didn't particularly mind seeing,

Speaker 33 like Punk is ramming McIntyre's head into the stairs, Seth is tying his shoes. And again, this is, I've seen these spots when I was 10,

Speaker 33 when you had a baby face as a special referee.

Speaker 33 But it works here because it's so old, it's new. And nobody has bothered to do this shit

Speaker 33 in a logical manner for so long.

Speaker 33 So, anyway, so Seth is turning his back on stuff at, you know, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 33 And Punk is back to selling as a baby face. And he did that.
Drew got heat well.

Speaker 33 And at the same time as Seth was doing some things where he's letting them play,

Speaker 33 he didn't start counting

Speaker 33 cockeyed. All the counts that he gave were normal on false finishes, so he wasn't,

Speaker 33 he wasn't tipping his hand that he was just going to fuck somebody outright. He's just letting them fight, right? That's what it means.

Speaker 33 And

Speaker 33 finally,

Speaker 33 at one point, Drew gets a chair and Seth sees it. And Drew tells him, hey, just turn around and let this happen.

Speaker 33 And Seth does, but then as Drew draws back, Seth grabs the chair because because he can't go that far, right? It's got to be hand-to-hand.

Speaker 33 And then they did the spot reminiscent of Sean Michaels' Bret Hart and The Undertaker, where when Drew pafaced Seth, Seth swung the chair and Drew ducked and Seth almost hit punk, but he held up.

Speaker 33 So again, this is...

Speaker 33 This is like some Eddie Graham shit they've laid out here where they're going back to previous matches and previous things that have happened years ago and

Speaker 33 destroying some cliches.

Speaker 33 And then finally, Drew pulls out the bracelet that

Speaker 33 he stole from Punk and he put it on.

Speaker 33 And he went for a kick, but Punk kicked him and started his comeback and hit the knees and the elbow off the top

Speaker 33 and then got the vice on him, but he saw the bracelet. And the bracelet's more important to him than winning.
So he pulls the bracelet off of Drew's wrist and gets it back.

Speaker 33 But Drew then has the opportunity to hit a kick and gets a two count.

Speaker 33 And now he's dropped the bracelet. So Seth gets the bracelet and puts it on, right? Just so nothing happens to it.

Speaker 33 But then they go back and forth and Punk calls for the go-to-sleep. But when he picks up Drew, he sees Seth wearing the bracelet and drops Drew.

Speaker 33 And then Punk and Seth are arguing.

Speaker 33 And Drew blasts Punk from behind into Seth, and Seth goes to the floor. Punk foils the DDT and hits the go-to-sleep and covers, but there's no referee.

Speaker 33 And the fans count to seven, and Seth gets in one, two,

Speaker 33 and he kicks.

Speaker 33 And now Punk is yelling at Seth, and Seth's yelling back at him. We don't want you here.
It's not all about you, asshole.

Speaker 33 So Punk picks Seth up and gives him the fucking GTS

Speaker 33 and takes his bracelet back from Seth.

Speaker 33 And he turns around and Drew kicks him into balls and hits the Claymore kick.

Speaker 33 And McIntyre covers, and now Seth is coming over, and now he reluctantly

Speaker 33 counts one, two, three.

Speaker 33 And then he rolls out and takes his referee shirt off and throws it down and walks the back. And Drew takes the bracelet back and stands over Punk.

Speaker 33 That's the way you set up a fucking three-way. That's the way you set up rematches.
That's the way you fucking work a special referee, goddamn deal.

Speaker 33 Everything made sense, and you've still got the opportunity to have Punk and Drew have a whole different match the next time they have one with a regular referee.

Speaker 33 Your thoughts, my fine feathered friend.

Speaker 32 At the very end, I have no feathers, and you know that. You're You're very well aware of that.

Speaker 33 I've looked for the feathers. They're not there.

Speaker 32 At the very end of the match, or at the very end when Drew picked up the bracelet again, my first thought was he's going to break it.

Speaker 32 And what will that do? But instead, he stored it away. So

Speaker 32 that continues.

Speaker 32 Kind of feels like an end. Punk has to get the bracelet back, and then AJ has to slap.

Speaker 32 whoever, I guess Drew, and then Larry has to piss on him while he's down to really make the comeback complete at this point.

Speaker 32 I thought it was good. You know, I thought the match was okay.

Speaker 32 By the end, it got really clever, and I like that.

Speaker 32 And I thought Rollins, you know, again, my personal taste, Rollins as the referee, dressed the way he was and just being a gimmick was a bit distracting from the seriousness of it.

Speaker 33 I held my nose on the outfit because it's Seth and it's the WWE.

Speaker 32 But, you know, it started off really hot with them doing a thing where you stand in the middle of the ring and you trade the blows. But I don't know.

Speaker 32 For two guys that hate each other, it felt like, to me, it felt like it almost had to be amped up a little more as a match.

Speaker 32 And I like, but I like everything they did and everywhere they went at the end because obviously, like you said, it sets up lots of things.

Speaker 33 Well, they're this was their first singles match, but they've been, because of circumstances, they've been going back and forth for six fucking months so they if they'd have come out there and done tables and chairs and ladders and blood and guts and

Speaker 33 you know

Speaker 33 barbed wire dildos whatever

Speaker 33 then where do they go in a rematch

Speaker 33 you've had the match you've had this way the distraction of the referee

Speaker 33 being involved in the middle of it, keeping things from happening, and at the same time being a focal point,

Speaker 33 they didn't need to do all that shit because there wasn't a spot for it, and they've still got it where they can do it in the future. So, I agree with you.
Yes, they should do more things, but

Speaker 33 this was a great way to save that until.

Speaker 33 So, imagine this. They didn't have a

Speaker 33 nuclear explosion in the first act of the play.

Speaker 32 Do you do Punk versus Rollins as a match before you do the next Punk versus McIntyre? Or how do you mix it up with these three?

Speaker 33 I mean, I think you could

Speaker 33 definitely do one of these other matches before you do another Punk and Drew.

Speaker 33 And I'm not even sure whether it's Punk and Rollins because you could do something cleverly

Speaker 33 on TV before the next big event to build a reason for Seth versus Drew.

Speaker 33 And then, you know, because

Speaker 33 maybe Punk Punk is saying, if it hadn't been for that screwy referee, I wouldn't have got beat, which is kind of true. But maybe Drew takes the, oh, now you're blaming the referee.

Speaker 33 Well, I could fucking kick his ass. See, I do that accent so good.
And then Seth is like, oh, fuck you. I didn't have to count at all.
I could have kicked you in the head. And then you've got that.

Speaker 33 And then Punk fucks Drew out of that. But then Seth gets mad at Punk.
Then you have Seth and Punk.

Speaker 33 But Drew's mad that Seth. You see where I'm going with this?

Speaker 33 You got all kinds of shit.

Speaker 33 And that's what it'll be. All kinds of shit.

Speaker 33 Anyway, would you like to move move along? How did we have?

Speaker 32 No, one more thing. How did you think Punk looked in there? First time we've seen him in the ring, obviously, in quite a while.

Speaker 32 And he got hurt, you know, in AEW, the freak injury where he jumped into the crowd and hit his foot on the barricade. And then the...

Speaker 32 Second injury. And then when he came into the WWE.
So this is the first time we've really seen him in a while. What'd you think?

Speaker 33 I thought he looked good. I don't think he has the cardio of 25-year-old CM Punk, nor do we all.

Speaker 33 But at the same time, again,

Speaker 33 you don't want Punk in his first match back in that long of a time, coming out off of multiple injuries where he really hasn't wrestled all that much in the last year and a half.

Speaker 33 You don't want him trying to do what fucking Edge did and jumping off the top of the cage, right? And breaking his own leg.

Speaker 32 I think he's smarter than that, but yeah.

Speaker 33 Well, but I'm saying, wait, yes, that's why he didn't do it. Punk is, but I'm saying you don't want him to

Speaker 33 because

Speaker 33 you've, again, this is major money on the line.

Speaker 33 And when you can get these people to where they're buying the tickets and they're screaming at the top of their lungs and they're reacting to everything, when the guys are having safe and entertaining matches instead of risky car crashes

Speaker 33 that they really do get hurt from and you can't capitalize on what you've built and it hurts the business and it hurts the company and it hurts the talent.

Speaker 33 I don't see there's anything wrong with that.

Speaker 33 If the building,

Speaker 33 you know, the stadium in Cleveland was half full, then they may need to evaluate what they're doing. But as far as I can tell, it's pretty fucking full.

Speaker 33 And the people were screaming and cheering for things. It's what I used to tell the guys in Ring of Honor, my God,

Speaker 33 in front of 672 people in Milwaukee, and they can't scream any louder already, and you want to spike pile drive a motherfucker off the fucking roof.

Speaker 33 So there's levels to this. So I thought what they did,

Speaker 33 told the story, continued the story, gave them multiple places to go.

Speaker 33 And it took the people on a fucking ride

Speaker 33 without goddamn resorting to anybody having to go have sir emergency surgery afterwards for fuck's sake

Speaker 33 did that answer your question

Speaker 32 indeed it did two more minutes

Speaker 33 two more minutes well and that's the thing you know punk's 40 fucking whatever now so he don't need to be doing a lot of that screwy shit but he needs to be relying on his his personality, his ability to connect with the audience, his reputation, and give them their money's worth in ways other than,

Speaker 33 you know, taking flatback bumps on beds of fucking nails.

Speaker 33 And, you know, fortunately, he's in the company where they're all smart enough to want to work toward that goal instead of building fake fucking walls out of dry walls so they can be run through them on forklifts.

Speaker 32 I think I can watch him and Drew McIntyre just seethe at each other every single week forever. Yeah.

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 33 Just fucking react. Just

Speaker 33 see the displeasure that each one of them possesses that the other one is alive on the planet.

Speaker 32 It's great. You believe it because

Speaker 32 it's real.

Speaker 33 Hey, you know, we can't all be

Speaker 33 bosom buddies.

Speaker 33 Speaking of the bosom buddies.

Speaker 33 It was now time for the world title to be on the line before the world title was on the line.

Speaker 33 When Gunther

Speaker 33 challenged Damien Priest. And

Speaker 33 boy, this had every opportunity to kind of be a death spot, too, between what they've seen and what they're about to see. And

Speaker 33 I'm not sure that I like this as much as the normal Gunther matches, but again, they told the exact story they should tell. They did the exact finish they should do.

Speaker 33 And

Speaker 33 is it that Priest does a lot of modern stuff, the spinning and the leaping and the kicking in the air and the blocking and the parrying and the thrusting? And Gunther is such a

Speaker 33 really a great throwback to an old-fashioned Gene Kiniski kind of motherfucker, just comes straight at you that

Speaker 33 was it a bit of a clash of styles? Normally, Gunther is timeless, but this was really, a lot of this was really modern.

Speaker 33 And you didn't, you didn't, and I'll say the one more thing, and then you respond.

Speaker 33 You also, you didn't have the pure baby face and heel dynamic from the start you usually have where Gunther is bullying a smaller guy.

Speaker 33 He was trying to make Priest his physical equal, and they transitioned Priest to a baby face by the end, but it wasn't there at the start.

Speaker 32 Now you talk. There's no Priest-Gunther history or feud or anything that really seems like a big deal.

Speaker 32 So there was no energy, not that everything could be punk versus McIntyre, but like that at the beginning. It was just two guys wrestling.
At least Priest was wearing all black.

Speaker 32 I don't think purple has helped him.

Speaker 32 And he was wearing all black. And yeah, he wrestles away.
Maybe you should go to Lavender. He wrestles a lot of the modern style.
He does a lot of that stuff.

Speaker 32 And Gunther, you know, Gunther has wrestled pretty much mostly guys who wrestle that style his whole career.

Speaker 32 They also followed Punk McIntyre. They were also clearly the only match before

Speaker 32 what people thought may happen in the main event. It is kind of the death spot.

Speaker 32 You said before something interesting, you thought the finish was what it should be.

Speaker 32 Do you mean Gunther winning? Do you mean the method in which he won, or do you mean the Judgment Day story coming together, leading to him winning?

Speaker 33 Gunther winning is what they should have done, and

Speaker 33 Finn being responsible is what they should have done. I don't know if it could have been a little more exciting than what actually happened.

Speaker 33 But let's get basically in the match, they

Speaker 33 not really a blow by blow. That's all they did.
Punches, chops, and kicks. And Gunther's chest was bleeding from the

Speaker 33 and not one of the Jericho blade jobs tried to get one of his Japanese turtles over, but actually he was bruised up.

Speaker 33 But they just, they laid it in and had a big guy fight, you know, back and forth until finally they got to the story. Finn got to ringside to cheer Damian Priest on.

Speaker 33 And Priest had fired up and made a comeback and hit a couple clotheslines and a razor's edge and a choke slam

Speaker 33 and covered Gunther. And as the referee goes down to count, Finn rolls in and put Gunther's leg on the ropes and rolled back out.

Speaker 33 And then Priest gets up like, what the fuck happened? And he looks and he sees the replay on the screen, which is a nice touch because why wouldn't you

Speaker 33 it's on a giant screen if you're not sure what happened they're going to show you again no that was great they had a shot behind priest of him watching the big screen so you all got to see how he was uh brought to know about this he was that how how the the jig was up as they say and there finn had his back turned and he's smiling and doesn't realize until he looks and real ah shit he saw that

Speaker 33 And then Priest goes toward Finn, but Gunther got the sleeper from behind and had him down.

Speaker 33 And then Priest kind of fought out and reached out and grabbed Finn, but Gunther grabbed him from behind and powerbombed him, got the sleeper again and put him out.

Speaker 33 And that, to me, was it was a little flat.

Speaker 33 Once that Finn or that priest knew that Finn had done it, he's reaching for him.

Speaker 33 If Gunther had come from behind and they had done some kind of exchange, which led to

Speaker 33 Gunther either getting a pin or even if fucking, you know, a priest had fucking planted him again, but Finn had given him some kind of elbow in the back or was some pinfall.

Speaker 33 When everybody just goes down and lays there for a while after a betrayal,

Speaker 33 a betrayal should be followed by a shocking one, two, three, oh my God.

Speaker 33 Let everybody react when you're watching a guy sitting in a hold. To me, it takes so long.
They're already thinking about what happened. They're They're anticipating the guy's lost.

Speaker 33 It's not as big a pop when he does lose because they saw it coming.

Speaker 33 Have I made all those points halfway clear? Halfway.

Speaker 33 It just, it was a little blah.

Speaker 33 A little blah at the end there.

Speaker 33 But so now Priest,

Speaker 33 Dominic has pissed Priest off by turning on Rhea.

Speaker 33 Finn, for reasons I'm sure he'll explain next week on TV,

Speaker 33 did what he did when he did it. Priest loses the world title, as we predicted, to branch off into

Speaker 33 the Judgment Day. This kind of like Dusty booking in that they don't want Priest to get even with Gunther.

Speaker 33 So Priest has somebody else to go get even with so the people don't notice that he's not getting even with Gunther.

Speaker 33 So everybody's in the right place. It was just, it was a little blase on the end.
I don't know. You tell me.

Speaker 32 What do you think Judgment Day becomes? I mean, we'll find out soon enough, obviously. Do you think it becomes Finn leading JD and Carlito? Or does it become Dominic with Live

Speaker 32 and all five of them? Then that's the new Judgment Day.

Speaker 32 I don't know.

Speaker 33 I don't know about that.

Speaker 32 Because you got to think, is he going to just go after Finn or is Dominic tied into it? Because again, it goes into earlier. You got to assume now he was lying to.

Speaker 32 Damien about knowing what Dominic was up to, right?

Speaker 33 I think Finn is a single and as a former champion there, and he's got a track record, he's got a nice program with Priest for Priest to redeem himself and come out ahead in the end. And

Speaker 33 then I don't see why Priest and JD wouldn't be a tag team and let Dom and Liv be

Speaker 33 on their own for a while and potentially.

Speaker 33 As they're trying to run from Rhea, then potentially you've got the mixtag with Dom and Liv and Rhea and Priest.

Speaker 33 But does there need to be a Judgment Day? Are the people going to set the seats on fire if there's no Judgment Day?

Speaker 32 I don't think they'll set the seats on fire. Is the Judgment Day something that people aren't sick of that you could use as a prop to fill up TV time?

Speaker 33 I just wish they'd get rid of the clubhouse.

Speaker 32 Well, yeah, who's paying rent on that thing?

Speaker 33 Yeah, whose name is it in?

Speaker 33 Did they sign a lease?

Speaker 32 They're still signing everything in the name of Adam Copeland, apparently.

Speaker 33 Is there a security deposit? I bet Adam Copeland put the security deposit down when he started the whole thing. Boy, how things change.

Speaker 33 Adam Copeland starts a group called The Judgment Day, and now he's home with a broken leg working for the distant number two company.

Speaker 33 And a guy that was a flunky of his just lost the world title in front of 60,000 people for the big company.

Speaker 32 And this is the moment Judgment Day found out their shirts have not been selling as well as they used to. All right, time to break them up.

Speaker 33 But anyway, that,

Speaker 33 you know, I don't know. But everybody's in the right place now.

Speaker 33 Gunther is the world champion, and as we said, he can get heat off of having a belt that people view as secondary by talking about how he's making it more important than the other one that they think is important.

Speaker 33 Whereas a babyface couldn't really do that.

Speaker 32 And who's he going to feud with? Jay Usa?

Speaker 33 I hope not, but we'll find out.

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Speaker 33 Did you watch any of the Miz and R-Truth and Theory and Waller and Jelly Donut segment?

Speaker 32 When I saw that The Miz was coming out, he was the host with R-Truth. I used that as my break.

Speaker 32 I didn't realize, and now I know for the future, every match there was like a minimum of 15 minutes between matches. And if I knew that, I would have used my time better.

Speaker 32 But I use this as a chance to go outside and, you know, have my late-night joint.

Speaker 33 Well, you didn't make a mistake because

Speaker 33 I speed searched the goddamn thing because I don't watch this live because there is 15 minutes in between matches.

Speaker 33 But basically, a lot of people on Twitter was, well, I can't wait to hear Cornette tear this apart. Well, I didn't even watch it and I can still tear it apart because

Speaker 33 it's not even about why is Ms. the host? Why is there a host? What does the host do? He came out and announced the crowd.
Triple H could have done that, whatever the case.

Speaker 33 57791 is what they're telling people. And I guess they had to shoehorn our truth in here in some kind of way.

Speaker 33 But you talked about earlier,

Speaker 33 we were both talking about it, that things have improved since Vince has been gone as far as just the really silly, stupid stuff, the distasteful whatever.

Speaker 33 But why do the goddamn musicians have to now beat up the wrestlers?

Speaker 33 Jelly Donut came in the ring and ended ended up choke-slamming Austin Theory,

Speaker 33 who got all kinds of air for him.

Speaker 33 But just because Jelly Donut weighs 500 pounds doesn't mean that he should be treated like a goddamn physically imposing motherfucker when, in actuality, the only way he could probably hurt you is if he fell on you.

Speaker 33 And his stomach is so big he couldn't reach you if he was reaching out in front of himself because he can't reach past the end of his fucking belly.

Speaker 33 And you could obviously outrun him.

Speaker 33 So

Speaker 33 my point is, why did all the goddamn musicians, why do they have to let him in the ring to do wrestling moves to the wrestlers?

Speaker 33 I assume he got paid to be there. He got the promotion of singing his song on a big show.

Speaker 33 He could buy another couple of fucking face tattoos.

Speaker 33 But Jesus Christ, why do the musicians have to get to beat up the wrestlers? Does this happen in the UFC?

Speaker 32 This is one of those things from Vince that still make Harry Over, where they're so happy to get anyone that they think is a mainstream celebrity or a celebrity somewhere else to be there that they could just completely debase the heels or beat them up.

Speaker 32 At this point, Austin Theory absolutely must have pissed off a lot of people.

Speaker 33 Yeah, he must have just goddamn horrible heat.

Speaker 32 Because when you, I didn't watch this. So when you said he got chokeslabbed by Jellyroll, I'm like, oh my God, like, what?

Speaker 32 Again, Waller right next to him. It's theory that just made them like the pucks.

Speaker 33 Maybe he's one of those guys with one of those personalities.

Speaker 32 He beat John Cena at WrestleMania.

Speaker 33 And then Jellyroll beat him at SummerSlam.

Speaker 33 Anyway,

Speaker 33 it was now time, ladies and gentlemen, for the last match of the evening.

Speaker 33 For the WWE undisputed,

Speaker 33 well, it's actually disputed by the guy that has the other title, but for the WWE title, the big one.

Speaker 33 Cody Rhodes and Solo Sokoa, the new tribal chief, and

Speaker 33 they gave the big...

Speaker 33 The big entrance to Solo, but then they went back in the back and they went all the way to Cody's bus.

Speaker 33 The camera's on the bus and watch him get off the bus and tip the bus driver or whatever and be handed the leash of his dog, Pharaoh.

Speaker 32 Who wasn't allowed on the bus?

Speaker 33 Apparently not, because he was already standing out there waiting for him.

Speaker 33 And it was not, he kissed Pharaoh on the head. See, I love a man who loves his dog.

Speaker 33 And he's walking Pharaoh through. Now, the only thing is he didn't come out with Pharaoh out in the building.

Speaker 33 So, why was he walking Pharaoh towards? Couldn't he have just left Pharaoh to watch the monitor like the rest of the family?

Speaker 33 But anyway, here's

Speaker 33 the story of the entrance is as he's walking through the back leading the dog, he looks over to the left and he sees Arn Anderson.

Speaker 33 And he's,

Speaker 33 you mean to tell me that's when Cody first realized that one of his oldest friends was in the building, just hanging out, just there leisurely in a polo shirt.

Speaker 32 He was surprised he wasn't in catering.

Speaker 33 Well, he looked like he had been there.

Speaker 33 And Arne gave him a pep talk that was not well mic'd. And

Speaker 33 Arn doesn't have

Speaker 33 the projection that he used to have in his voice. And

Speaker 33 he told Cody that he still has friends. They're on the way.

Speaker 33 You can do that type of thing. It was a a pep talk.

Speaker 33 I understand it. It was, again, another sign of the

Speaker 33 new administration, the new ownership that Arne was there to begin with.

Speaker 33 And he is an important figure in Cody's life and background. And he has been talked about.
But this wasn't a stirring

Speaker 33 go out there and win one for the Gipper type of speech that you would have thought maybe in that environment.

Speaker 33 Should they have done that on the bus where it was a little more intimate, you could hear better?

Speaker 32 It may have been something for like the moment before Cody leaves the bus. He gets to hear some words from Arn, but, you know, Arn's not really a big rah-rah guy.

Speaker 32 You're not going to get that from him.

Speaker 32 It's not like he's going to stand there like Jimmy Hart and, you know, jump in the background and yell, go get him, go.

Speaker 33 Well, no, but I'm not going to do that. But maybe you need that.

Speaker 32 Maybe you need a

Speaker 33 stirring, motivational speech like the Enforcer in the Day would have given.

Speaker 33 But the people popped when they saw him on the screen.

Speaker 32 They ran out of time, though. Part two of the speech was, why did you bring your dog if you're going to have to just give him to this other guy in a minute?

Speaker 33 Yeah, well, and Pharaoh's being passed around, for heaven's sake, like

Speaker 33 an unwanted dog at the pound over and over before this bit. Anyway, and they said it was his last trip on the road.

Speaker 33 Are they retiring the dog? The dog has decided to retire. I didn't hear the explanation for why the announcer said it was his last trip with Cody.

Speaker 33 They couldn't come to terms on a a new contract with Pharaoh.

Speaker 32 Are they putting Pharaoh down? Yeah, really. Why'd they say that? Oh, come on.

Speaker 33 Oh, he looked in the

Speaker 32 turn of life. Oh, what the hell did they say that for then?

Speaker 33 Anyway, he wasn't going to take a trip with him on the road anymore. Maybe Brandy's putting her foot down if Pharaoh's too old for this shit.

Speaker 32 Oh, so there's like a last hurrah,

Speaker 33 a big, a final farewell to Pharaoh.

Speaker 33 Anyhow,

Speaker 33 Cody got a big entrance. He's over.
The bloodline rules. The WWE title, Cody solo.
Here we go.

Speaker 33 And this wasn't so much of a match as

Speaker 33 an Eddie Graham finish on steroids put on a loop.

Speaker 33 I mean, they sat down and worked on this one. It was a giant performance piece.

Speaker 33 where they had to make it bloodline rules, basically no rules, so that everybody could, because they gave the people every kind of twist and turn and

Speaker 33 up and down and run-in and whatever that they could.

Speaker 33 But there would have been no way to figure out how to do this in a regular match. They had to do what they did.

Speaker 33 And before the run-in started happening, I just had observations. One,

Speaker 33 Solo is the younger brother of both the Usos, right?

Speaker 32 Solo is the younger brother of the Usos, correct.

Speaker 34 Yes.

Speaker 33 He's the best worker of the bunch of them.

Speaker 32 Oh, by far. He's solid.
He lays his stuff in.

Speaker 32 There aren't as many of the holes that you point out with Jey Uso, especially with Jimmy Uso, too.

Speaker 32 You don't see that with Solo.

Speaker 33 He's not as awkward with the kicks and the movements. You're not distracted because he's wearing tennis shoes and baggy shit.
He's not open-handed, slapping people.

Speaker 33 And he does different stuff. And before I've mentioned that I thought Solo was sometimes limited in what he was doing,

Speaker 33 but Cody obviously was the captain here and either brought out more in him or he's trying to expand his repertoire.

Speaker 33 But he, and that bit, the Samoan drop that he does is more like a Samoan release suplex,

Speaker 33 where instead of coming flat down on the guy like Jacob does,

Speaker 33 he's fucking boosting them and throwing them.

Speaker 33 But it just, his,

Speaker 33 his in-ring is coming along, and I think his confidence is coming along. And

Speaker 33 I think he did more different stuff here than any match I've seen of him or the Usos, maybe put together.

Speaker 33 But finally, you know,

Speaker 33 to start the run-ins, Cody hit a big superplex and both sold it. And they went into a yay-boo exchange.
And then Cody fired up and hit the crossroads. And right then,

Speaker 33 here comes Tamatonga and Tongaloa.

Speaker 33 And

Speaker 33 you know what I'm about to say. It's gotten to be.

Speaker 32 I love that. He's my favorite.
Do look, before you insult him or say anything.

Speaker 33 All right.

Speaker 32 Tongaloa, when he came out there, I'm thinking, all right, there's been all these past incidents that seem ridiculous, but when you put them all together, it's quite the picture.

Speaker 32 Now he has an eye patch.

Speaker 32 All I'm thinking is, wouldn't it be funny if he just doesn't go the right way because of the eye patch?

Speaker 33 If it threw off his depth perception.

Speaker 33 Because

Speaker 33 we're talking about a guy with two eyes that missed a stationary nutshot

Speaker 33 that whiffed a guy, hitting a guy in the balls, and the guy wasn't moving.

Speaker 33 And so in this one, he comes in and they hold Cody

Speaker 33 and he's going to try to run and spear Cody backwards, kind of into the turnbuckles.

Speaker 33 And he ran into Cody and drove him

Speaker 33 the wrong way. He missed the corner of the ring and he just drove him into the ropes and you could see Cody looking back like, where am I fucking going?

Speaker 33 And then he had to shove him back in the fucking corner so that Tamatonga could run and do whatever he was going to do. But he missed the fucking turnbuckles in the corner of the ring.

Speaker 33 Cody was going backwards and he knew he was going the wrong way.

Speaker 33 And it just, that's the first thing you see, the first thing he does.

Speaker 32 I'm sitting here waiting for it and watching for it. And then he does it right in front of you.
It's almost like you don't believe it.

Speaker 32 No, how did he? I've never seen anyone miss the turnbuckle.

Speaker 32 I've never seen anyone miss the turnbuckle. He missed the corner.
How do you miss the corner? Well, yeah, he wasn't even there.

Speaker 33 There was three turnbuckles to choose from. He missed all of them by five feet to the right.

Speaker 33 So then.

Speaker 33 But then the Tongas beat up Cody and Solo covers him, but he gets two count.

Speaker 33 So the Tongas get back on Cody, but then Owens music plays and Kevin Owens comes in and gets a big fight.

Speaker 33 And then, but they get Owens down because they're the numbers advantage. And then Orton music plays.

Speaker 33 And when Orton comes down to make this big save, did you see him coming down slapping fans' hands on either side of the entranceway?

Speaker 32 Yeah. Also, both guys are in their gear.
Do you think it would have had more impact if they ran out there in street clothes? They weren't working.

Speaker 33 Well, with Owens, anything that you can do to cover up his body, I'm in favor of. But I've I've mentioned before, Orton never goes out there.
He wants to look like a star.

Speaker 33 Anytime he goes out in front of people, he's always dressed in gear.

Speaker 33 But

Speaker 33 I would have been wondering if they were my friends, where they were fucking hiding for the two minutes that these guys were beating the shit out of me before they decided to play their music and come out and help.

Speaker 32 Well, Arn's.

Speaker 33 Well, goddamn it. Would they come in separate cars? Because one got there before the other one did.

Speaker 32 Well, they had to wait for their music to get queued up.

Speaker 33 Well, no, one guy had to shake some hands on the way down because he's running for office.

Speaker 32 The only thing better than that was when Jeff Hardy made his AEW debut to save Matt Hardy, and he stopped and danced.

Speaker 33 He stopped and danced all.

Speaker 33 But anyway, after shaking the fans' hands, Orton got in and cleared the ring and Power Slam solo.

Speaker 33 And then Owens went to the top and Swanton so low. And then Cody Crossroads

Speaker 33 solo

Speaker 33 and got a two count and it was a weak kick out and

Speaker 33 I don't know what the fans went eh

Speaker 33 because it looked like this guy big move this guy big move then the champion big finish boom

Speaker 33 he either it was a weak kick out and the people didn't see it and there wasn't a lot of reaction he either needed to kick out strong or

Speaker 33 maybe they didn't need to do that there

Speaker 33 but at that point

Speaker 33 Ortons and Ortons and Owens,

Speaker 33 the team of Ortons and Owens,

Speaker 33 chased the Tongans out of the building. They fought off, Brian.

Speaker 33 See, that was Harley's allergy cough. She's much better now.

Speaker 32 Well, they fought out, not fought off.

Speaker 33 Well, they fought off. They fought out.
They fought off. They went off.
They went away.

Speaker 33 Off with you. Off with their heads.
So then Cody throws the stairs in the ring and he hits Solo with them once and he hits him twice

Speaker 33 and he goes, but now he's just hit this guy with the stairs twice and he goes for the big third one and Solo comes with a spear, spears him out from under the stairs to count.

Speaker 33 Great facials on both, by the way, when they're selling. It just sometimes you would think maybe one shot with the stairs may have worked.

Speaker 33 Solo missed the running ass in the corner on the stairs when Cody moved. And then Cody hit the crossroads twice and he was going for the third time.

Speaker 33 But you know, who's been unaccounted for?

Speaker 33 Oh,

Speaker 33 the werewolf.

Speaker 32 Was that the werewolf? I thought it sounded like Lassie.

Speaker 32 Oh,

Speaker 33 it's the werewolf. It's the werewolf.
Wolfman Jack.

Speaker 32 Wolfman Jack? Yeah, what are you doing?

Speaker 33 That's who it is. That's what Jacob Fatu sounds like.
He sounds like Wolfman Jack.

Speaker 33 Playing mounds of sad, you got the money, honey, I got the time.

Speaker 33 And Fatu levels Cody Rhodes and hits the springing moonsault and puts Solo on top of Cody.

Speaker 33 Two count.

Speaker 33 Holy shit. So then Solo says to Fatu, put him through the table.

Speaker 33 And Cody Cody puts Fatu puts Cody on the announce desk, clears it off.

Speaker 33 Who puts their desk back together?

Speaker 33 I saw the desk cleared off at least three times, right? And then the next time somebody goes to do it, all the monitors are back, the notes, the fucking wiring, everything's right there.

Speaker 33 They sweep it all off again. Do they have a desk reassembler

Speaker 33 over to the side? Or do you think each announcer has to fend for themselves?

Speaker 32 You grab a leg and I grab a leg? No, they have to have someone there.

Speaker 33 You grab a leg and I grab a leg, honey. You grab a leg and I grab a leg.
So he cleared off the desk of the thing and he goes to the top rope and he splashes Cody through the table.

Speaker 33 But instantly,

Speaker 33 Jacob Fatu grabs his left leg. I believe it was his left leg.
And he, oh, and he's screaming and he's, he did an incredible job of selling it.

Speaker 33 It looks like he's either had a leg broken or broken somebody's leg before

Speaker 33 because he did a fantastic fucking sell job. Many people

Speaker 33 were convinced that he was goddamn fucked up.

Speaker 32 Well, apparently, he was seen around today in a walking boot.

Speaker 33 And I'm proud of him for that, too.

Speaker 33 That's the modern-day equivalent of the neck brace.

Speaker 33 Because, well, and you know, maybe we're going to find out that he broke a bone or two.

Speaker 33 But what I'm saying is, there was a need because of what was going to happen next for Jacob Fatu to be rendered

Speaker 33 encompass mintus,

Speaker 33 rendered irrelevant there. They couldn't, with the push they're giving him and the build they're giving him,

Speaker 33 they couldn't have somebody else take him out. That would destroy his aura of danger and potential invincibility, but they couldn't have him up and about for what was about to go on.

Speaker 33 And what is the perfect compromise? He hurts himself

Speaker 33 in the

Speaker 33 act of hurting someone else. And then he can't get back in and interfere in what's going to go on.
So

Speaker 33 I say, bravo,

Speaker 33 chef's kiss to that fucking leg cell.

Speaker 33 And

Speaker 33 then when they roll Cody back in the ring,

Speaker 33 Solo fucking

Speaker 33 splashes him off the top rope and gets a two count. Cody is goddamn indestructible, but at least he's not 132 pounds like Darby Allen.

Speaker 33 And then Cody foils the spike that Solo tries and kicks him and hits a cutter on him.

Speaker 33 And both of them are down. And you think, well, what in the world else can happen? And suddenly

Speaker 33 the opening drum beats of Roman Reigns' music hits and the fans in that fucking stadium go absolutely bat shit insane.

Speaker 33 And I'm saying, it's like they just saw their mother return from a fucking lunar fucking landing that didn't go well.

Speaker 33 Holy shit, did you hear that fucking pop erupt when they all knew instantly what that fucking drum roll meant?

Speaker 32 Yeah, no, it was a major pop and,

Speaker 32 you know, people were hoping for it and they finally got what they were hoping for.

Speaker 33 Oh, they've been chanting for We Want Roman

Speaker 33 and

Speaker 33 since the way that he left at WrestleMania, let's say April, May, June, July. So he's been gone for four months.
The time is

Speaker 33 right. They're ready for it.
Boom. They see the screen.
They know it's him. And then here he comes.
And he's walking to the ring with the game face on.

Speaker 33 And he fucking slides in. And even the announcer are going, like, yeah, but, you know, who's he? Because he's got the history with Cody.

Speaker 33 And he's obviously not going to be happy with Solo and the way he's been running his pie hole around the place.

Speaker 33 And

Speaker 33 he settles things instantly. There wasn't a big milk, which I was glad of because it was there.
He Superman punches Solo

Speaker 33 and hits Solo with a fucking spear, boom, and gets a big pop.

Speaker 33 And then looks at Cody

Speaker 33 and steps out of the ring and starts walking to the back. And Cody grabs Solo and hits the crossroads.
Boom, one, two, three.

Speaker 33 And then

Speaker 33 Roman looks back over his shoulder at Cody, and Cody's looking at Roman.

Speaker 33 And one of them was looking back to see if you were looking back to see if I was looking back to see if you were looking back at me.

Speaker 33 But boy, and that's why Jacob Fatu,

Speaker 33 you still don't know what will happen physically

Speaker 33 when Jacob Fatu and Roman Reigns get mixed in with each other.

Speaker 33 And Jacob Fatu had a good reason for not getting in the way

Speaker 33 of Roman Reigns doing what he did to Solo when Cody went in the match. He was taken out of the equation.

Speaker 33 So everything fell right into place perfectly, but we still didn't answer questions that it was too early to answer. What can Solo and Roman do to each other?

Speaker 33 And et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 32 Do you think Heyman should have come out with Roman in a wheelchair? He could have just

Speaker 32 pointed

Speaker 32 them,

Speaker 32 him,

Speaker 33 he did it. Well, no, see, this is perfect because why? Roman is in no danger right now.
Roman was in control of the situation. If Heyman had showed up, Paul, you've still got another great return.

Speaker 33 If Roman can be put in a place of jeopardy, that not that Heyman can come and physically,

Speaker 33 you know,

Speaker 33 rescue him from, but that Heyman can

Speaker 33 do a wise man thing

Speaker 33 and put him. Maybe

Speaker 33 the wise man thing is the wise man is the one that puts Roman and Cody finally together as a team against Solo and Jacob.

Speaker 33 And

Speaker 33 again, so many ways to go. And now,

Speaker 33 how many goddamn top-level babyfaces do they have in that company now that Roman has

Speaker 33 come back in that fashion? You've got Cody Rhodes, you've got Kevin Owens, you've got Roman Reigns, you've got L.A. Knight,

Speaker 33 and of course, Randy Orton, who

Speaker 33 at some point, probably

Speaker 33 over the next run of big shows and Saudi Arabia, $100 million spectaculars will stab Cody Rhodes in the back and be one of the hottest heels in the company.

Speaker 33 But they've got mega babyfaces now.

Speaker 33 It's insane.

Speaker 32 Well, that was the insanity known as SummerSlam.

Speaker 33 And

Speaker 33 again,

Speaker 33 I joke that, yeah, they may be making more money these days, but back then we had the crowds. Now they've got the fucking crowds, too.

Speaker 33 60,000 people in Cleveland ain't nothing to sneeze at.

Speaker 33 Cleveland!

Speaker 32 you have you ever I spent a month there one night I'm telling you that is not a it makes you wonder what Vince McMahon and Kevin Dunn think because they can't just completely ignore what's happening the fact that things are so hot they've maintained it they started advertising it like I told you the John Cena tour the year-long

Speaker 32 tour I mean

Speaker 32 They've got everything set up for another hot run or for this hot run to continue.

Speaker 32 It's crazy to think about. You You know, you never really thought.

Speaker 32 I mean, I guess a lot of people thought things would improve when Vince was gone, but the fact that business, it's through the roof, it could almost not get any hotter right now.

Speaker 33 Well, actually, it could because they sold out a stadium in fucking Cleveland without John Cena or Randy Orton advertised or Kevin Owens advertised or Roman Reigns advertised or Brock Lesnar advertised.

Speaker 33 Jesus H. And the Rock.

Speaker 33 They've still got the rock.

Speaker 32 Yeah, and they've probably got at least one more good run out of him before the big scandal that takes him down forever.

Speaker 33 And the mixed tag team match with Atta.

Speaker 33 But that's what I'm saying. It's like, my God, it can get bigger.
What the fuck?

Speaker 33 Anyway.

Speaker 33 And for the people who think we're blowing them, no, we still recognize when shit sucks, and much of it does, especially on the regular weekly television.

Speaker 32 I still don't want to watch Raw, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 33 No, but goddamn, and that's part of the thing: our astonishment that

Speaker 33 they've got the personalities so over that they can do as little as they do and sell as much as they sell.

Speaker 33 So that was indeed SummerSlam, one for the ages. And boy, howdy,

Speaker 33 it's going to be probably another

Speaker 33 month or two until they get $50 million from Saudi Arabia or fucking put 30,000 people in a building somewhere.

Speaker 32 Wait until they go to London and break the Wembley record. That's going to be the big moment.

Speaker 33 Oh, God. Two nights in a row.

Speaker 33 Tony's going to, goddamn, he's going to just fucking, his head will explode when they go there and two nights in a row beat his single attendance record.

Speaker 33 I'm wondering if, you know, they may sell out the pay-per-view.

Speaker 32 I don't think it works like that.

Speaker 33 No, that's going to be the pay-per-view will be sold out. Unless you get it early, you will not be able to order the pay-per-view anywhere in the world.
That will be sold out as well.

Speaker 32 I don't know about that, but that was SummerSlam, and that was the drive-through. This is not the drive-through.

Speaker 33 No, this is the experience. You're done with the whole thing, aren't you?

Speaker 32 You're just fed up with it.

Speaker 32 No, I'm having a great time.

Speaker 33 Oh, well, it sounds like it. Well, folks, if you're having a great time, then you're going to want to come back and have some more of those times.
So, come back here next week on the experience.

Speaker 33 Come back in a few days on the drive-thru. We're going to talk about all kinds of things and even more.

Speaker 33 And until then, for Grumpy Brian, I'm Jazz and Jimmy. Thank you.
Fuck you. And bye-bye, everybody.

Speaker 33 Of Jim Connet.

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