Episode 543: Potpourri Episode

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Like a midnight and the rock and roller.

He's in a fight for wrestling solar using a racket and some mind controller.

He's Jim Cornette.

The keys to the future held by the past.

And with tag team partner Barion Last, he sends this message out by podcast.

Jim Cornette.

Well, he's never fake a phoner.

He never backs down from a fight.

He never wins the pony.

Cause his mama raised him right.

It's time

to prevent

your mind.

Get the experience.

Get the experience.

Get the experience of Jim Cornette.

Welcome back, my friends, to the podcast that never ends.

We're so glad that you could attend because today is a Potrie edition of the Jim Cornette Experience.

We're going to talk about the new wrestling that stinks and the old wrestling that smells like purdy flowers.

And joining me, Hawaiian Brian, the podcasting lion, the king of the Arcadian Vanguard Podcast Network, Mr.

Co-host to you.

He's a breath of fresh air and a sea of smelly, stagnant shows.

The great Brian Last, everybody.

Aloha, Jim.

A pleasure to be here once again.

We'll see how smelly this one is.

By the time we're done, I don't even know what we're going to talk about today.

Well, it's going to be a few things.

I'm afraid to move.

If I move.

If you move.

If.

Oh.

I wish I could say it.

Mercy, if I could only say it on the radio.

I'm afraid to move.

I should be doing this

podcast in a straitjacket, maybe with a muzzle, because I got the Jimmy legs.

I got the yips.

They call it crazy legs, not Jimmy legs.

Well, I call it the Jimmy legs.

You want to be associated with it?

You never saw that, Seinfeld.

Well, I saw the Jimmy episode, yes.

Well, no, there's also the Jimmy Lay.

You got the Jimmy legs.

See what I'm talking about, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.

I hope, hopefully, no children are present during this performance.

I usually stop it, ladies and gentlemen.

Yeah, well, you know, just for

the sake of, I'm registering that maybe you ought to send the kids to bed early.

And Brian, last,

you, Brian,

have been

browbeating me and just berating me because of my movements and my noises.

If I click my pin,

what the fuck is that?

Or if I tap,

sometimes I get emotional and

I make a point on my desk or

I'm doing things.

I'm moving around.

I'm enjoying life.

I'm living and breathing and out there in front of everybody.

And you want me to sit here silent and immobile.

And I'm not supposed to smack my lips, ladies and gentlemen.

And also, I got a tooth that's been knocked, a front tooth that's been knocked out three or four times.

I mentioned it in the past.

It's got a post in it as big as a goddamn telephone pole.

And every once in a while, it vibrates.

I go.

Oh, goddammit.

Shut down the show.

Cornette's making noises again.

You should have heard about the time of the day I had the farts.

That's why I sit on a pillow now here to muffle.

It's like the old detective movies in the 40s when they put the pillow in front of the gun to muffle the shot.

That's why you never hear me fart, ladies and gentlemen.

Are you finished?

I'm just, I'm, I'm.

For the record.

All right, go ahead and record for the record.

For the record.

My concern is the listener.

My concern is the listener's experience while listening to the show.

Whether they're on the train, in their car.

On the train was your first option.

Well, I used to listen to a lot of stuff on the train.

If you're on a fucking train, how much, goddamn, how many gardeners can you hear on a podcast?

Well, you're on a goddamn choo-choo.

That's one of the secrets to our audio success.

We prepare for the Long Island Railroad.

If you edit for that, you're good for the rest of the world.

But no, you could be anywhere.

You could be in a plane.

You could be running.

You could be doing all sorts of in traffic angry.

The audio experience.

Running from someone who's angry at you in traffic and trying to run you down with a car

i i didn't say that but uh

it's possible it's possible anything's possible the point

out there our listeners are doing a wide organization

what do you think the chances are that both the guy driving the car about to run down the guy running from him are both listening to our podcast at the same time would he regret it The driver.

Would he regret it if he discovered that the man he ran down listened to the same podcast?

Oh, I thought, would you mean

he regret it if he was listening to our podcast?

No, why would he regret that?

Unless it was your show.

Unless it was your show.

Oh, come on now.

No, but my point is I care about the ears and the listening experience of the listener.

I want them to have a pleasant time listening to our nonsense, not to hear people chewing.

all sorts of noises

pens going back and forth sometimes it sounds like you're keith moon over there

oh let me tell you about SmackDown.

Oh, shit, I just knocked a bunch of shit over.

It'll be fine.

I'll fix it later.

I'll be on mute for a second.

Well, anyway, while Brian is over there mute,

making it a mute point.

You see, ladies and gentlemen, what I have to put up with here when we do this.

This fight.

Now I put my pen down.

Oh, goddamn it.

Sounds like I've hurt my hand a little bit over there.

Put it over there.

Did you hurt yourself?

Yeah, I banged this thing really fucking hard.

Hey, also, some modulation.

I got to stay on top of all these things because I am not only the voice of the listener.

I am the person who cares about the listener.

I am the guiding light to make sure that your listening experience is stellar.

And I'll be here.

Thank you, Captain Lou Last, the guiding light of podcasting, for you, you care and you tend to and you take care of all of the listeners' ears and

you know, whatever above their neck, and I'll take care of all the listeners from the neck down.

How's that?

All right, have fun with that.

He'll see you at C2E2, ladies and gentlemen.

We'll get them right in the heart, is what I'm saying.

We'll get them right in the feels, like the kids say.

We'll appeal to them

down deep in their soul.

Down deep in their souls.

I sound like Big Bad John now.

What do you think of that expression?

Like, that gives me the feels.

Well, it sounds like that you were on a crowded fucking subway car and somebody gave you the feels to me.

Or I've heard him sound on the Twitter, they got me in the feels.

What the fuck?

It sounds like something that ought to be at least a misdemeanor.

Nevertheless, we've got some.

Can we go on with the program now that I've established that I'm going to try to make as little noise as possible?

Remember that guy, John Fields, in Baltimore?

Oh, for God's sake.

He has never.

That you know of, that you know of.

Whatever you're going to say, that you know of.

He has never been either the perpetrator of or the recipient of the feels as far as we're aware.

I'm unaware.

For the record, I'm unaware of any of this.

But let me just brought to mind, see, I was always a bit of a,

depending on the way you look at it, either a smartass or a wordsmith.

Little puns, you know, double entens, as they say, things like that appealed to me even before I got in the wrestling business.

So it was like one o'clock in the morning here in Louisville, Kentucky.

I'm 18 years old or so.

And back then, the only place you could get any kind of food at that time of the morning was White Castle, which

pretty much qualifies for the label any kind of food.

And so I go in, and you know, it's a fast food place, and the young people are working there, Brian.

They got their first jobs.

Not all of them could be the successful Tuesday night wrestling photographer like yours truly.

They were working

the various shifts at the counter at the fast food place, blah, blah, blah.

And I get up to place my order, and it's a young lady, probably about my age.

She's, you know, high schoolish type of level.

And there, her name tag says, her name, Brian, is Velvet.

Now, this was the 70s, the late 70s.

So that was a thing that could happen.

And I said, your name is Velvet.

And she said, yes.

I said, have you ever been felt?

She didn't seem to really appreciate the witticism

of that remark.

And you got there from the feels.

Well, feels the past tense of feels would be felt, wouldn't it?

Got me in the felt?

Weren't those the cousins of the Welches, the Fields?

No,

those were the Hatfields.

Those were the Hatfields.

They just shortened it for the Marquis, but those were the Hatfields.

So they were well-versed in family feuds.

That is crazy, that, like, the Hatfields versus the McCoy's.

Like, that is the

same family as the Fields.

Yeah, not the exact same people.

They didn't shoot a bunch of people in

Kentucky and West Virginia and then moved down to the Gulf Coast, but it was branches of the family.

So, hey, that's where the statement came from.

Personal issues draw money.

Think about it.

Why don't you?

Okay.

Well, I mean,

I don't know what there is to think about.

We already know this.

Well,

that's a thing to think about.

See, you proved my point.

I've thought about it.

I haven't proved anything.

All right.

Well, you had a point?

You haven't thought about it long enough.

The longer you think about it, the more you'll prove my point.

This has been happy talk, ladies and gentlemen.

Well, Brian, I've got an email here.

You don't like my conversation.

Let's talk.

Is that too much noise for you?

Huh?

Well, no, because you've established it's paper.

You have an email.

Now we could talk about the level of shaking or quaking with the paper that you're doing.

I don't know what's happening over there.

It's bizarre.

Oh, a lot of shaking and quaking going on.

Like I said, it's bizarre what's going on over there, but certainly you've established what is making the noise.

This is allowable.

Yes, okay.

Well, I'm going to tell you right now what's making this noise.

And by the way, just this may be one of our better programs because people do respond to the ones where I just don't give two shits.

And I'm to that point now in

my sleep deprivation fucking experiment.

But anyway, this is

what?

How come no one ever doesn't give three shits?

Well,

you're always going to give three shits.

I mean, if you're human.

So, what does that mean?

You've got to be completely inhuman not to give three shits about something.

There's some goddamn level of humanity deep within me or anyone else

the point where we wouldn't fucking go that far all right all right that was smack ladies no this is a goddamn email from one of the listeners all right marvin from las vegas and marvin has not yet been shot in the face

What

don't you remember the full picture?

Oh, man, you shot Marvin in the fucking face.

Oh, I mean, I love that movie.

I didn't realize that's what you were referring to.

No, it's the same guy.

It's the same guy.

You shot Marvin out of nowhere.

They're in Las Vegas.

Anyway,

the title of the email is Brian Last and His Web of Lies.

Who the fuck, fuck you, Marvin.

It says Marvin from Las Vegas, and maybe you're the one that's going to shoot him in the fucking face.

Sounds like a fake name.

When was the last time a kid was named Marvin?

No, he actually, he gave me his last name, and it's equally as fucking stupid sounds made up.

Yeah, so from the emails, the free of fucking email senders.

Let's go.

So, you don't want to hear about your web of lies?

No, I am curious what this is.

I mean, I'm just

denouncing Marvin in advance of the list.

Hello, Jim.

See, he knew not to send it through you because it would never see the light of day.

You keep your secrets carefully guarded.

What's

an email from Marv?

That's not a secret.

No, he's talking about, yeah, you, oh, wait till you listen.

Hello, Jim.

On Experience Episode 541, Brian was telling you about Mr.

Met,

who is the popular mascot of the New York Mets baseball team.

At the end of explaining this, Brian stated that the Cincinnati Reds copied Mr.

Mett for their Mr.

Redlegs by adding a mustache.

Do you remember uttering those comments?

I certainly do.

Well, he further states, Marvin, that is, I'd like to explain the truth.

Mr.

Red,

who is the mustache-less version of Mr.

Redlegs, was first introduced in 1955,

while the New York Mets didn't introduce Mr.

Met until 1963.

So the Mets, in fact, copied the Reds.

Exactly wrong.

Oh, is it?

Please ask Brian to refrain from spreading misinformation about America's first capital letters baseball team.

Thank you.

Fuck the St.

Louis Cardinals.

Bye.

Now you take issue with Marvin from Las Vegas.

This should be verifiable information here if we were to dig deeper.

You know, he won me over a little at the end with fuck the Cardinals, so I can't get too mad.

Look, here's the reality of it:

Mr.

Red, whatever the fuck his name is, was a drawing.

He was something on paper or on a patch.

He was not an on-the-field mascot.

We're talking mascots, not drawings.

There are plenty of drawings of people with baseball fucking heads.

On-the-field mascot, Mr.

Met,

the originator, the greatest.

He's still here.

He's got a fine-ass woman.

He's got it going on.

The Mets are winning.

He's got a fine-ass woman with about 100 stitches in her head.

So does he.

He's found his type.

Made by Rawlings, it turns out.

No, but that's the truth.

Mr.

Met first on the field, mascot in a costume, because there was like, you know, goofy characters on the indies.

But but but but but but but but but is it not the concept, Brian?

No, it's not the concept.

So wait wait a minute.

You're saying that mascot begins at birth rather than mascot begins at conception.

Mr.

Mett was developed specifically to be a man in a paper-mache giant baseball head on the field as a cheerleader.

The Reds running man

was something drawn on paper that was used in the paper.

But then why did you But there was no expectation.

There was no expectation for a living embodiment of Cincinnati, except for Moxley, I guess.

The living embodiment of Cincinnati.

Boy, speaking of something with 100 stitches in its head.

No, but Mr.

Mett was the first on the fees.

He's the originator.

He is the greatest.

Philly Fanatic, I would say, is at the top of the list too.

San Diego Chicken kind of had the part ways with the Padres, so I don't think he could really get the credit he deserves for the fame that he had.

He's kind of like a dice clay of mascots,

but he had a good match with Lawler.

And that's how we bring it back to wrestling, ladies and gentlemen.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Oh, fuck you, Marvin.

Mr.

Mett was on the field first.

I met the chicken

and watched him beat the shit out of Jimmy Hart.

I wish I remembered what it was offhand.

I have it written down in my notes somewhere.

Austin Idol, when I did Austin Idol live with him, he remembered like what the chicken's payday was.

Because, you know, Idol doesn't forget that kind of stuff.

thing oh yeah no i think it was

it was in the neighborhood of five or six grand or something like that because yeah all the boys were not fucking happy at all

not not happy

anyway so marvin from las vegas thank you for setting this straight despite mr lass's efforts to he didn't set anything straight you're just taking his side arbitrarily what is that I think the mascot begins at conception, and clearly the conception was the.

If the conception did not have the thought of it being an on-the-field mascot, it does not count.

It was their symbol,

their emblem.

Perhaps in simpler times, they didn't know where to get a giant baseball head.

Thereub I works the Mets Walt Disney.

Oh, I had a part to do with Mickey.

Yeah, well, guess what?

Walt Disney got all the credit because he's the one who put him on the screen.

He's the one who developed Mickey Mouse.

That's what I say.

Yeah.

Well, Ub's family would like a word with you.

All right.

Anyway,

real quickly, since we're on

hopefully an energetic and happy path,

but I will be remiss because everybody will say, well, you're not saying anything with Joe Biden steps down.

Okay, Biden out,

Harris in, Biden steps down, Harris steps up.

And it is still a choice of normal, sane, rational, competent, experienced people against madness, chaos, stooges, sycophants, and want to be mango Mussolinis.

And I.

I hate it that Joe is not 15 years younger.

The idea that he's been a babbling oatmeal consumer for the past three years is ludicrous.

We heard him at State of the Union.

We heard him at press conferences.

He's 80 years old and he has bad days.

When it was a choice of him or the filth that preceded him, it was still not a choice.

And he saved us from Trump.

He

presided over the recovery from the pandemic.

Unemployment's at an all-time low,

stock market's at an all-time high.

For people who say, inflation,

that's why there's an inflation calculator where you can go back and see what

something cost in 1913

and its equivalent buying power of the dollar today because it always goes up.

And we were due for one, which was caused by the global pandemic and the fact that a a lot of people figured out they didn't want to work at Walmart and McDonald's for $6 an hour because why?

When

the billionaires

that own McDonald's and Walmart are making billions and billions of dollars, fuck you.

So things go up in price.

Biden didn't invent that.

So I always figured that if we elected him and something happened, happened, that his vice president and his experienced team would be doing the same kind of rational, reasonable shit.

So nothing has changed now for me, except

now Harris is 40, not 80.

And there's the babbling simpleton drooling on himself on the other side of the podium.

She's not 40.

What, 40 or 50?

What?

She's got to be 50.

She's well preserved.

She's got to be in her mid-50s at least.

Is she really?

Hold on, actually.

Hold on.

Well, find out and tell me.

She is 59 years old.

What?

She's almost your age.

God damn.

40.

Get out of here.

Well, fuck, she's going to live to be 90.

I didn't know she was that old.

Look at those genetics.

Anyway, I've never asked a woman her age.

It's not polite, but said she brought it up.

But anyway,

it's fine because we still have a choice of normal,

rational, reasonable, experienced, competent people or stooges and criminals and sycophants and

the whole mess.

And now what they've done is they've just energized

all of the what do women make up in the United States of America?

It can't be feminists.

What do they make up?

Tails and rabbits and

what percentage do they make?

It can't just be 50-50 even.

The odds against that are probably

better than 50-50.

So the point is,

since the Republicans have spent the past four years, especially with all the stooge fanatic

judges that dip shit put in place, taking away women's civil rights and whether they can decide to have a baby or not.

Approximately 51.1% of the population since 2013.

Well, that's goddamn close, isn't it?

But they've still got the majority.

Why would a woman vote for any of the Republicans with what they've done over the last few years?

So

thank you for running Joe Biden out of office.

We got a better chance now.

Yay.

Fucking idiots.

It's still,

this is still not a contest.

Does it bother you the way he was pushed out?

Yes, because I think we owe him more respect and thanks than that.

It was like a targeted campaign after a while to get him.

But the thing is, I think they started getting worried that and Joe Biden realized this.

They started getting worried that maybe he wouldn't beat this fucking moron and we would have four more years of, or a lot more years than that, of this insanity.

And the government would be

replaced almost entirely by stooges and criminals and incompetents and fanatics.

And normal people don't want that.

So

if they convinced him, Joe, the best thing you can do to save democracy is not try to save democracy again.

And that's probably why he did it for the good of the country.

Serious question.

If Trump were to become president again, do you think Vince McMahon's going to get a pardon?

I don't even think Vince McMahon will go to trial on anything.

I mean,

they're such good friends, old Donnie Dipshit and Vince Headshitter,

that no, you're not going to see Vince McMahon maybe similarly simile,

civilly liable.

I don't think, I think Trump would laugh if Vince had to pay some woman that he had, you know, dallied with hundreds of millions of dollars or whatever, because they would, you know, they have that kind of relationship where they were jousting with each other at the airport at that time over the size of their airplanes.

But he's not going to jail.

No way Trump would let Vince go to jail because of a woman

or because of any

white-collar crimes or criminality in the stock sale or whatever.

Basically, anything Trump has been guilty of, he's not going to let Vince go to jail for.

You know, though, if you were booking it for wrestling, it could be an interesting turn.

Trump has surrounded himself with Linda McMahon and Hulk Hogan.

If he wanted to turn on Vince, now's the time.

He's got the backbone of 1980s WWF behind him.

Yeah, he ain't going to turn on, he ain't going to turn on Vince.

If anything, Trump may be the only one that can get Vince and Linda together

because they've always wanted legitimate power in the real world.

So they would probably be willing to put up with each other's presence in order to both of them serve their

fucking tinted master.

Remember that image of Vince McMahon when Linda lost her last Senate attempt attempt

crying at the back of the stage to stand in all the people and like he's he's the husband he's like hiding in the back of the stage crying

he's he's crying he's like god damn it he was pissed off about losing how much six million dollars in 1995 can you imagine how he felt when he lost like 80 million dollars

And he said, and he thought, plus, I thought she was going to move to Washington.

Yeah, really.

I thought I'd finally have the place to myself.

Yeah.

Is it right about that time when he bought the penthouse?

You would know better than I.

I don't know.

No, when I left, I quit worrying about their real estate fucking holdings.

And because as long as I didn't have to go there, I didn't even know where it was.

That's the move, though.

Hey, you know, I'm just working so hard.

I can't make it home from work.

I'm just going to get a.

luxury apartment right across the street right here just yeah just a giant luxury apartment it costs a few million dollars.

Save me that fucking 45 minutes or an hour to get home at rush hour because he was a lot closer to his house than we were.

I knew executives that did that, and the company paid for it back in the uh Sony Music days.

Are they still in business?

Yeah, they're still making money.

Huh, you'd wonder with practices like that.

Let's be real.

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Anyway, speaking of a company that's still making money even with practices like this,

you want to talk about SmackDown for a minute?

Maybe a minute at most.

I didn't really,

I mean, nothing really stuck with me from SmackDown.

It wasn't really much of an anything.

But what do you think?

I don't care.

I don't care.

If I'm not successful, it won't be distressful because I don't care.

They don't care.

They don't care anymore.

They don't care what we say.

We never did believe much anyway.

This, what the fuck?

They have

how many, we figured it up one time a few years ago, and we haven't heard about any mass firings.

A hundred and some

wrestlers under contract on their roster.

Both Raw and SmackDown under the WWE umbrella, maybe not even taking into account NXT.

And because they go to to Japan

with how many people did they take to Japan?

For fuck's sake, they just say, fuck it, we're going to tape the show a week in advance and give people dick olive shit.

It's what they didn't even say where they were because they were the last place they were last week, right?

Yeah, as soon as you saw that boxer, you're like, wait a minute.

There's no way they put him on the road.

Yeah, what is he just fucking?

Is he stalking us now?

You're going to show up on somebody's front porch here next week.

So, and it just, oh my God,

the horribleness and awfulness of it.

Well, not that.

There was nothing unprofessional.

There was nothing ridiculous that would hurt business.

They haven't,

you know, just decided to hire a bunch of fucking

amateurs and throw them in the ring and with the talent going to Japan or whatever.

They just had a few people work twice last week and gave us the most boring, non-meaningful program except for

Jacob Fatu that they've presented in quite a while.

And ha.

So that's what would you like to just.

That was SmackDown, ladies and gentlemen.

Well, yeah,

I'll give you the high points.

L.A.

Knight,

in quite a bit of time,

finally beat Pablo Escobar, who has the lovely Carmen Electra Jennifer Lopez in his corner.

And then Logan Paul ran in and got some heat on L.A.

Knight, and L.A.

Knight fought back, and then Escobar stopped L.A.

Knight.

And both heels beat up L.A.

Knight.

And Logan Paul frog splashed him off the top rope and left him laying.

And from this, I gather that at SummerSlam,

LA Night better win that fucking belt.

Did you even pay attention?

No, not really.

And I agree, he better win that belt.

But then in the back, Logan Paul said he's going to have a surprise for LA Night

at SummerSlam.

So could that be

his landlord?

Well, I'm thinking San Francisco Slim

get that get that natural Northern California, Southern California rivalry going

is that LA Knights next program if he doesn't win the U.S.

title with old San Francisco Slim?

I don't know.

Panama Red

the Panama Red made some money at one point in time.

Anyway,

Jade and Bianca

got in the ring with the microphones.

That was their first mistake.

And they called out the new tag team champions of Fire and Dawn.

I forget their other names.

They both have two names, but I remember those.

And they attacked Jade and Bianca from behind, and then the faces turned around and beat them up.

And that was it.

It was pretty short and not good.

And then we had the Street Profits and BFAB talking to Terrence Crawford, who is the,

I couldn't remember from last week what he did.

I didn't know whether he rapped, played basketball, was a boxer, or a fucking movie actor.

But he's a boxer.

And apparently, from what we heard in this program, the best pound-for-pound boxer in the world.

Have you ever heard of this fucking guy?

To be fair, I don't really follow boxing anymore.

The fact that they barely air it anywhere and none of the good fights ever really happen, and there aren't really that many fighters built up well anymore.

No, it's not really for me anymore.

Well, some of the story may lie in this hyperbolic

description and the fact that they're apparently they're running advertising for this fight

because they're running commercials and apparently it's some kind of sponsorship.

Not sponsorship.

The boxing people are paying them the money, as Joe LeDuc said one time.

They're paying me some bread

to get to fucking run commercials and talk about this thing.

And apparently, as part of the deal,

they had Terrence Crawford come out here and knock out poor Austin Theory later on.

But anyway,

the story of the night before we finish this story was the tag team gauntlet

for a number one contender, tag team title shot against

poor old Gargano and Champa, who are about to be cannon fodder for the bloodline.

That's their move when they have a tape show, the gauntlet match.

Yes, because they were 40 minutes into the TV show already before they started this thing, and this thing can go through goddamn however long, right?

And it's just what the fuck.

So

Corbin and Cruz

fought the Lucha Heels, and then the Prophets came out, and they were attacked by, I forgot to write down all these teams.

Purely Dreary, I think.

Prophets beat them.

Prophets beat Gallows and Anderson.

And then came the Bloodline.

So an hour and 15 minutes into the show, we get to see the Bloodline, who at the top of the program,

had told Nick Aldiss,

are they ribbing poor old Tongaloa now?

Do they have some kind of buyer's remorse?

Like, oh, fuck, this guy missed a stationary nutshot.

And

now they've just, he had an eye patch on and an exaggerated gauze underneath it, and he's got an eye injury and had to pull out of the tag team gauntlet.

But they said, don't worry, he will be replaced by Jacob Fatu.

Do you think Jacob Fatu has worked Tongaloa out of of a spot here, or was that what they were going to do all along?

I think Tongaloa is best.

I think you said it a couple weeks ago.

He's best in a suit, kind of like in the classic Ming or Big Bubba Rogers kind of role.

Because every time, I shouldn't say every time,

it doesn't appear to be natural to him, even though he's not a young guy and he's been doing this for a while.

There seems to be just a

you know, it's almost like he he has crazy legs.

You don't know what he's going to do.

He's got the yips.

He had the yips.

He throws it one place, it goes another.

Went for the guy's balls and he almost touched the butt cheek.

I don't know what he was trying to do.

The yips.

Wait a minute.

You could have no idea.

You could have yips.

Somebody.

Somebody clipped that audio and just put it on a loop and sent it to me.

He went for the guy's balls, but he just grazed his butt cheeks cheeks or whatever it was you just said whatever it was that you want to hear over and over again what the hell

oh yeah let me hear it over and over again oh god stop being so excited this is what i talk about when i say the bizarreness of whatever's happening

so anyway um

but but you know what though now i'm a bigger fan of his than if he was just some badass because i'm waiting for shit to happen i'm waiting for him to like slip i'm waiting for him to like hit a wall while he's walking Just anything.

I'm waiting for something to happen.

Nobody's ever going, oh, what, goddamn it, what was his name that dove headfirst under the ring at the Royal Rumble a few years ago?

Oh, Titus O'Neill.

Titus O'Neill.

He's, no, he's got it.

He's, you know,

he should have just stayed under there.

The longer he would have stayed under there, I bet you, goddamn, he would have got a standing ovation.

They laughed at him because he popped right back out and fucking got in the ring and tried to act like nothing went wrong.

If he'd have stayed under there till the end of the fucking match and then come out when they were fucking holding the guy's hand up, he'd have stole the show.

Anyhow,

so Jacob Fatu and Tama Tonga ended up being the last team against the Street Profits in this

gauntlet situation.

And they started the match in break, but when they came back,

I mean, it's obvious Fatu and Tonga don't have a lot of tag team work because I would imagine this would be the first time that they have ever teamed up with each other, right?

Tama Tonga's been in New Japan for ages.

Jacob was under contract to MLW, blah, blah, blah.

Can you think of any paths they would have crossed?

Not that I'm aware of, no.

But so, nevertheless, they've got no tag team work, but Jacob, again, I think they're just

putting a spotlight on him in the ring.

The announcers are

going over and above the call of duty to put him over.

And you can tell they've got tremendous plans for him and

the shit that he can do and the explosiveness he has.

So

anyway, they,

boom, finally.

Oh, did you see the finish of this?

Montez Ford's making a comeback on Tomatonga.

and then suddenly

Tomatonga is bent over in front of him, but apparently he was supposed to duck something, so Ford just swung over the top of the guy's head and turned backwards and put himself in a position to be waistlocked and boosted up.

I was like, oh my God, it does look like Western swing dancing now.

And again, that's a taped show.

They had a week to do whatever they had to do to the.

Hey, that's where I

told the crew in the Smoky Mountain tapings

for the first fucking dark match, that was all to shoot cute kids and attractive women in the crowd.

When something like that happened, you'd see a cute kid or an attractive woman.

Sometimes the pickings were slim.

We had to take what we get.

And then they got a four-way going.

Jacob came in and beat up both and beat up or beat up.

beat

Ford with a pop-up, Samoan drop and a springboard moonsault, boom, one, two, three.

The triple jump or whatever, like Daniels was doing for a while.

And one of the girls does it now, or whatever.

But it looks more impressive

when that fucking Samoan werewolf does it.

So that was

they're just building the bloodline right now.

That was the

contribution of this program, really, to anything

involving story.

But

do you want to talk about, again,

old Terrence Crawford knocking Austin Theory out?

Where were they last week?

What town is this guy from?

Was it Cleveland?

Was it Dayton?

No, they're going to be in Cleveland for SummerSlam.

Oh, then it wasn't there.

No, it's someplace out west.

All these towns are running through my mind.

Billings, Montana?

No, it's not Billings.

Fargo, North Dakota.

No, it was Moosehead, Maine.

Oh.

But anyway,

Waller and Theory get in the ring, doing a live promo, knocking old Terrence Crawford, because he helped out handing a chair last week to the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And they call him out to apologize, Brad.

Did you see he had his own own video screen?

He was officially prepared for that.

They had Terrence Crawford and his boxing pictures up on the fucking screen on the entrance.

As I mentioned earlier, they're promoting this fight that he's fighting somebody for something.

And they ran a commercial and they've got him involved in this or whatever.

But now they paid enough, however much it was, that he gets to come out and knock out

Austin Theory, who would Waller talks it up

and runs his mouth and then says, if you don't apologize to us, then Theory's going to knock you out.

And Theory's like, hey, what?

Wait a minute.

And boom,

almost boom.

I'm sure to Theory, Theory's

everlasting gratitude.

The guy didn't potato him.

He whiffed in front of his chin.

But nevertheless, he knocks Theory out and Waller runs away.

the end

they got mike tyson in 1998

now they got terrence crawford

have you gone to sleep that was smackdown

it actually wasn't no fuck

they also had a cody pre-tape oh yeah they had cody in the in the restaurant or whatever it was yes it was it was a bar which there's nothing nothing wrong with that.

I'm not saying it, Cody, ought to be drinking milk, but he said, I'm here on my tour in Japan.

And he's in a bar.

There was not one Japanese characteristic or anything that I saw.

It was just they did it with a very well-lit fucking

hotel bar.

I don't know where that would have been.

Yeah, that was the thing.

I'm in the bar in the middle of the day.

But

that was about SummerSlam.

And then the main event was actually Mia and Bailey against Jackson Stratton,

which sounds like a kind of power drill, doesn't it?

Or some type of heavy equipment, machinery, gasoline-operated...

Jackson Stratton.

Tackle any heavy job.

Wonder if Jackson Stratton should start a line of battery-operated household appliances for the housewives across the country.

Again, I don't know where your mind goes.

Who was their opponent?

It was Jackson Stratton versus versus Mia and who?

Mia Yim and Bailey.

And Bailey, that's right.

And Bailey.

But what they did was they jumped Mia Yim beforehand and beat her up on the side of the ring down on the floor.

And then Bailey came out and had a handicap match against him for 10 minutes before the fucking Mia Yim

got back up to the apron to take the tag.

People recovered and crawled out of car wrecks on the interstate in quicker time.

Nobody went to goddamn help her out.

They let her lay there for 10 minutes.

You think Mia's still alive?

I don't know, but let's not ruin the camera shot.

And then she gets up and takes a tag and makes a comeback after 10 minutes.

And then

the refrigerator

basically bonsaied Bailey after she'd been hit with the briefcase.

And that was the end.

Yeah.

Yeah, boy, this show.

Fox network.

No,

let's ask this question, though.

Are they just like, well, we're almost done on Fox, so fuck it?

Or are they, we're so far ahead in this thing, we don't give a shit.

You know, one

boring ass show with nothing going on is not going to run our audience off.

We're that conceited now.

There's no way they have planned ahead with these previously scheduled

situations that a company that's worth eight or nine billion dollars could have said, hey, let's add a fucking TV taping

the day after our last TV taping and then take a couple of days off, go to Japan.

Because

instead of subjecting the people that had already seen a live SmackDown to

some taped

and just throwing it away for the TV audience is my question to you.

Was there a thread of a question in there?

I mean, it was a nothing show.

They weren't in town.

The contract's finishing up.

It'll probably do a

relatively respectable rating, I would think.

I don't know if it's just going to die because people...

didn't get a live show and they didn't get anything happening at all.

We'll see.

Who's um

does fox have any interest in his terrence crawford fight that they've been promoting for two weeks on the show well somebody's making some money off of it over there it's on the zone i see here

i always thought that was dazen

d-a-z-n the fight is saturday august 3rd when's summer slam saturday august 3rd so they're promoting something against them They're promoting the, that's what I've been, that's what I've been saying all along.

They're getting some money.

that they're against summer slam with his fight i forgot to bring that up thank you for mentioning that but they're running commercials and they're having this guy come out and knock out the fucking talent

how much does that have to be worth and who are these people terrence crawford and what's his name that he's fighting he's fighting israel mad madramov okay

well a household name ladies and gentlemen early start if you're undergoing speech therapy that's a name that's on everybody's lips.

Early start time for this Riyadh season card.

Oh.

From Los Angeles.

So now I'm going to tell you who's putting up the money for this.

The Riyadh Season card from Los Angeles.

Now that's unwieldy in itself.

Saudi Arabia is behind this, but is the Riyadh Season a brand of or a company name?

Riyadh Season is a series of entertainment, cultural, and sporting events held in the Saudi Arabian Arabian capital of Riyadh.

The event was introduced in 2019 by the General Entertainment Authority.

You will always listen to them.

Yes,

the Entertainment Authority.

As part of the larger Saudi Seasons initiative in support of Saudi Vision 2030.

Well, how does that, but it's in Los Angeles?

Well, yeah, that's how they infiltrate the States.

What's a goddamn hill?

Oh, my God.

god

so how much money now are they paying to get this fucking guy and and what was the other guy's name who's he what's he it's it's he madam madam

madam the madam

who are these have you ever heard of these fighters before Again, I'm not currently following boxing, so I'm not the best person to ask.

No, to spend that much money, we ought to be talking about Joe Frazier, Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson, Evander Hollyfield, Floyd Mayweather, people that you can't avoid hearing their fucking name.

Riyadh Season 2024, Riyadh Season will be hosting the six

King Slam of October 2024, a tennis tournament.

Yeah, featuring all the big stars.

Nadal,

Djokovic.

Yeah, so they're doing the tennis tournament.

Did you say Chokovich?

I didn't say Chokovich.

What did you say?

Jokovich.

Who is that?

He's a tennis player, but anyway, you should know your tennis, Mr.

Cornet.

Did he ever beat Bobby Riggs?

They're doing a tennis tournament.

They have the WWE Crown Jewel November 2nd from the Kingdom Arena.

Tyson Fury versus,

again, I don't follow boxing currently.

Ousk?

USYK Alexander Ousk.

Ooz.

That'll be in December.

There are 12 zones in Riyadh season: the Boulevard World, Boulevard City, Kingdom Arena, Ramla, Terraza.

Okay,

do I need to go to the Wonder Garden?

Are you having a stroke now?

The Wonder Garden.

These are the arenas, I guess.

The Food Truck Park, Riyadh Zoo.

As a matter of fact, when you go to visit, they don't let you leave.

Well,

that's it.

Also, the Black Hat Middle East and Africa

Cybersecurity and Hacking Convention is annually held.

Wait a minute.

The fucking hackers and cybersecurities have a convention now?

Shouldn't they try to keep that shit quiet?

It says here, Black Hat Middle East and Africa.

A three-day cybersecurity and hacking convention held in Riyadh.

Where what?

Hackers from all over the world come and show their wares?

I don't know, but they're spending money.

They have lots of money, and it's on display all over the world.

All right.

Well, I'm sure Terrence Crawford is a heavy favorite to win this thing just because he knocked out Austin Theory with one punch and didn't even touch him.

So the wind.

So you can imagine what he can do to

another human being if he actually hits him.

oh you know that was that really was that really was the end of happy talk earlier that that certain that certainly was but i'll tell you this right now and and you may not realize it brian but the highlight of that program

was the samoan werewolf jacob fatu

and let me ask you a question brian last

how do you shave a werewolf

With a silver bullet.

No, you kill him with a silver bullet.

If you kill him, then his hair won't grow.

A silver razor.

If you have a werewolf in a family, you got to keep them properly groomed and make sure they're not only the conditioner to get the proper sheen on their coat, but also, you remember, you remember that old commercial from the 70s?

How do you handle a hungry man?

The man handlers.

So some kind of line of frozen dinners.

They were larger than, well, how do you handle a hairy werewolf?

You handle a hairy werewolf with hairs.

Harry's.com and the fine shaving products that are contained therein.

Well, they're not really contained on a website.

They're listed, offered, proffered to the public on the website hairy's.com.

No apostrophe there, by the way, in case you were up in the air about that.

And right now.

You know, folks, when you're going out in public, you got to do something about your fucking faces.

I'm seeing a lot of you people when I go my daily or weekly rounds to the store or the post office.

A lot of you people just have given up.

You don't care anymore.

And I feel that

you're being premature.

From the looks of some of you, you got another two or three good years left within you.

So try to clean up a little bit.

Shave your face, men.

Put on some lotion,

some body wash, some hair gel, all of the fine products that Harry's has to make you look

more palatable, at least.

I mean, let's face it, there's only so much you can do without plastic surgery, but you'll look more palatable.

You'll definitely smell better than you do right now,

and also it's a feeling.

It's a you get it right in the feels, gentlemen out there, when you got a clean face and your various,

all of your parts are clean and slick and shiny,

sometimes almost translucent.

Anyway, right now, Harry's is going to give you the trial set

that normally $13.

You're going to get an ergonomically designed razor.

The handle fits right in your hand and the blades, it's a five-blade cartridge that stays sharper longer because those German sadists make it in a special factory over there.

And you know how hard-hearted they are.

They want these things to be able to cut a cunt hair in half.

And you also get the foaming shave gel and the travel cover on the razor so you don't slice some kind of major artery for only $3.

If you go right now to Harry's.com/slash JCE,

a $13 trial set for $3.

Harry's.com slash JCE, and

again, the other self-care product.

Because, Brian, if you don't take care of yourself, who's going to take care of you?

And when you get to be about 75, somebody's going to come in and start performing some kind of routine maintenance a couple of times a week.

But

that's probably all it's going to be at that point.

So, until then, you're going to have to just fucking take care of yourself, guy.

You can smell like

wood and ground and rock.

I'm sorry, redwood, wildlands, and stone with the body washes that are scented in such a fashion.

And they've got an extra strength, and that's the important part.

High-quality, amazing-smelling deodorant.

$5.

What the fuck is five?

I'll pay you $5 just to use this shit before you stand next to me in line at Paul's Market.

So all together, folks, you got to go out, right?

And I say folks, I mean men.

Because if, well, any of the women out there that also need a five blade razor to shave and some foaming shave gel to shave whatever her suit area we're not going to judge you if you wanted to try it out for your your significant other male who also might have sprouts in unique places just you know fucking apply your imagination ladies and gentlemen Harry's.com slash JCE.

Did I make that clear, Brian?

You made that clear, except for the promo code.

What's that promo code one more time, Jim?

Slash JCE is the promo code.

I'm making it Harry's.com slash JCE.

Harry's.com slash JCE.

I just wanted to make sure we had some clarity there.

Well, there's all kinds of clarity to people who were listening to the words that were coming out of my mouth.

See, now you're making me pound the dish.

Oh, this audio, stop, stop, Jace.

I'm so sorry.

I don't know what he's doing.

Oh, come on.

You're making me do this because I'm making you.

I'm getting frizzy.

No, you made me do this.

I didn't want to do it.

Well, you're going to want to do it with Harry's.

That's the point.

You're going to want to do it with Harry's, especially after they use Harry's product on Harry's.

Harry,

what's that promo code?

What's that promo code, Jim?

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All right, well, before we continue with more frivolity and freewheeling discussion, Brian, we got to catch up on last weekend's biography.

We didn't have time on the drive-through.

We got to talk about it because it was on Mark Henry

and

the biography on, as you say, AEW, but it was actually on the AE network.

At least, again,

this is another guy who they have not beaten to death with the rivals and the biographies and the feuds and the legends and the heels and all the other stuff where you could see some new material for once.

And,

you know, it was

two hours where we usually left that like Lawler had a 50-year career and got an hour and The Miz got two hours.

But Mark had more to tell to his story

than just getting right into wrestling.

So, you know, I didn't think this was padded.

But did you get a chance to see the program?

I did, yes.

Well, the only,

and of course, Bruce Pritchard was in it as, you know, representative of the office talking head, or in this case, talking chins.

But

I don't even know if I tell you this story, if I can convey how fucking much of a kick I still get about thinking about this.

I was a member of the creative team when Bruce Pritchard told me that they were going to sign Mark Henry and sponsor him for the Olympics.

And

at the time, the WWF creative team consisted of Vince McMahon and his Stooges, me and Bruce Pritchard, and Pat Patterson would stop by, usually maybe the week before a pay-per-view, and Jim Ross would drop in because he was booking the house show lineups and he was foolishly trying to follow the television that Vince would change all the time.

And that was it, right?

And so

I've, again, I just started there spring of 96 or deep winter.

So I was still getting used to the way that things were pitched and the shit that they talked about with straight faces.

And Bruce told me, hey, we're going to sponsor this guy in the Olympics, this Olympian.

And I had never heard of Mark and I had not met Mark at this time.

And I'm not knocking Mark.

I'm trying to tell a funny story about Bruce telling me about Mark.

But he said,

We're going to sponsor him.

He's an Olympian.

I said, Oh, okay.

He's a weightlifter.

Okay.

And he can, you know, he can dunk a basketball and he weighs 400 pounds.

I said, Oh, okay.

And we're going to, as soon as he gets out of the Olympics, and we're going to, you know, get him in a ring.

Okay.

And we're going to sign him for 10 years for $250,000 a year.

And that's when I said, what?

Because in 1996, they weren't giving out guaranteed contracts at all.

And in the program,

it gets mentioned that, you know, Mark had the first.

And

I said,

but you got to pay him for 10 years.

It wasn't even the 250 grand a year.

It was the 10 years.

I'm like, I've never even seen this guy before.

What if he's not any good?

And Bruce would say, but the thing is he can dunk a basketball

he would always go back to that like that was i can't convey to you the glee that you would see on bruce's face when he said those words it was like i didn't know you were that big a basketball fan bruce

and i said but the thing is i said it's going to get heat with the boys you can't this is going to get out Do you give a guy that's never even not even had a lesson yet?

A 10-year contract for, and think of the 20-year contract with Brett that that was going to go sideways about a year and a half later.

It's like they were competing with Vern, but he already went out of business.

Yes.

And I said, you know, what if he's not any good?

And I said, and but he said, you don't understand.

He might go, the NBA might sign him.

I said, let the NBA sign him if he wants to play basketball instead of wrestle because

we don't know if he can wrestle.

Yeah, by the way, no mention of the NBA in this biography episode.

Well, no, we saw him dunking a basketball.

That much was true, but I don't know if it was in the fucking state finals for the national title or whatever.

But that's the thing is that Vince got the idea, want to sponsor an Olympian.

You know, Vern had done it before, but not to that level of financial commitment.

Maybe Patera got 200 bucks a week, maybe.

And you live in my barn.

Yeah, and then the bedroom in the barn.

But so they went whole hog with it.

And that's what

Mark's, the first five years of his career from 1996 to 2001 really went backwards.

And we've talked about him when we've talked about him before that,

you know, the way that he got into business and unfortunately what happened and what transpired.

It took him that five years to go back and get his basic training and really understand all the facets of the business, how to think about it, how to do it, how to get along in a locker room.

They started him out in a feature match on pay-per-view and five years later he was in OVW in developmental.

And they honestly couldn't tell, they did tell the story of some of his setbacks and, you know, that he was a little full of himself for not knowing how to fit in when he first got into business in a locker room, but they couldn't really tell the full story because it was kind of an indictment on the way way that they did him to begin with and why they had to keep

revamping him and trying to figure out something new to do with him because of the path they took him on.

But anyway, I digress.

We're getting ahead of ourselves.

Did you,

well, you're not old enough to have seen Vasily Alexeyev in the Olympics in real time, are you, kid?

No, I don't believe so, because also I don't really watch the Olympics.

It's not my thing.

Well, see, here's the thing.

In 72 and 76, not so much in 68 because I was like fucking six.

But in 72 and 76, I watched the Olympics, not only because

they were on network television and we only had three back then,

but also because some of the guys were either

dallying with wrestling had been publicized by the wrestling magazines,

you know, boxing because of Ali here, blah, blah, blah.

So when I was a kid,

the 72 and 76 Olympics were cookie.

You saw Chris Taylor, you saw Ken Patera, and it was marketed well by,

I think ABC had it both those years, and, you know, it was patriotic.

So we watched the Olympics, but Alexeyev was a fucking giant beast.

And he was the goddamn Russian weightlifter.

And

he was, you know, the one that Patera and everybody else was,

you know, being compared to.

But Mark Henry admired him

for being a, you know, because Mark was a big kid and they talked about how he was so ridiculously big that the other kids picked on him for being ridiculously big.

But he liked, and as wrestlers, he liked Andre and the big guys, the strong men.

And when he was here, he would ask,

you know, about old-time strong men and, you know, different people in wrestling or just the, you know, the circus type.

He was really,

because of his background with Terry Todd, who worked with Paul Anderson when he was the world's strongest man back in the 50s and had all that publicity.

And then he got into wrestling.

Am I still getting ahead of myself?

No, Thelma Todd.

Keep going.

Thelma, no, not Thelma Todd.

I know, I know, I know.

She was the unfortunately murdered actress in the 30s, but she made a great comedy team with Zazu Pitts.

She was great in monkey business by the Marx Brothers.

But it was Jan Todd, who was Terry Todd's wife, who was one of the people interviewed for this

program because when...

When Mark got into weightlifting and his high school strength coach to save him from getting in trouble, then he attracted attention of Terry Todd, who was a famous strength and conditioning coach and a weightlifter.

And he worked with Mark for a while and trained him for the

Olympics, where in 92 he came in 10th.

And then,

you know, for the next round,

Terry Todd had known, as I said, you know,

He had worked with Paul Anderson in the past.

He knew Vince through Andre the Giant because he had,

I think, wasn't that a famous sports illustrated piece that terry todd wrote on andre he wrote it and those photos are the ones you still see around andre holding the beer can and then vince senior vince jr and andre like having a good time at wherever smith and walinski's wherever they were

yeah so anyway

he said hey you know mark hey you could be doing this

and

Vince agreed to sponsor him for the Olympics.

And

he went to Atlanta in 96, tore a rib muscle, still finished the

meat, but did not

obviously win the gold medal.

But, you know, they made the point that Mark never did steroids, and again, that is true.

You know, he was all natural for, you know,

good, bad, or indifferent.

He couldn't really go all the way, I don't think, in Olympic weightlifting, probably with being all-natural and starting late and et cetera, et cetera.

But

nevertheless,

there is where

the way they debuted him,

and he even admitted he had almost no training.

Literally, the reason why that they picked Jerry Lawler to work with Mark in, and that was Mind Games, right, in Philly, September 96.

Lawler could work with a guy and had many times in Memphis a big, strong

that he could call basic stuff to.

And they had obviously had Mark in a ring and showed him somewhat how to hit the ropes and things.

But I mean, this was just zero level of training, and they were able to pull it off with Lawler calling it

because Vince insisted on having him off of the Olympics, having him on that show.

And again, I was like, yes, I know it'll be acceptable,

you know,

palatable, whatever with the king, but

then what are we going to do with it?

Well, then, well, you know, we're going to have him train in the warehouse.

This was before developmental

that had become a thing.

And, you know, I suppose if you show him on television then

and put all this, you know, attention on him and then he goes away for however long,

then it's, eh.

And then at the same time, if

you put him in the ring right now with anybody else, but Lawler, it'd be god-awful.

So, you know, I did, but Vince wanted to do it.

So they debuted him

against Lawler on that pay-per-view.

And then they put him in training at the warehouse.

And remember, Brian, how I've done, they've mentioned that he broke his ankle.

But remember how I've said I hated the real ropes on a ring?

I liked the cables.

Yeah, you've always said that.

Many times.

Well,

he's 400 fucking pounds.

He hits the goddamn real ropes that they're hitting in not just a two-hour house show every night, but they're using this as a training ring.

And the rope breaks and he gets caught and his leg goes sideways when he takes the bump and he breaks his ankle.

So by the time that he

had his debut on pay-per-view, beats Jerry Lawler, then goes into training,

then gets hurt, then recuperates from that, then continues his training.

I think we worked it out one time.

He had like two matches in his first 18 months.

So he made $375,000 for two matches.

And that's why

the boys then were like, what the fuck, this fucking guy.

Combined with Mark, Mark's always a friendly guy, always laughing, always joking, but he came in not realizing what kind of atmosphere he was in, or that these guys would be mad because they've worked for years and years to not get the goddamn guarantee that he got by walking in from doing something else.

And that's where they started while he was recuperating from his broken ankle.

He'd come to TVs on crutches, right?

400 pounds with a broken ankle.

So he needs the crutches.

If he sat down on like an equipment case or something and leaned his crutches up,

some of the boys would get his attention and somebody else would sneak up and steal his crutches and put them out in the middle of the ring and he'd have to figure out a way to go get them.

And they did do the

treatment of one of his subway sandwiches one time, which probably tasted

little shittier than normal subway sandwiches taste.

Because that was, he wasn't doing himself any favors because he just walked into it and he didn't know what to fuck.

So that's why that.

Yeah, but still, they shouldn't have shit in a sandwich.

Well, no, you know, but that's

they were shitting in fucking everybody's sandwich because that's what they

shouldn't have shitting anybody's sandwich.

But that's what they were doing when you give them an opening.

And it was because the company

did not prepare him

in any way for the business.

That's why Brett took him to Calgary and had him up there for a while, teach him how to act as much as work.

And then, you know, when he finally got back, what, the end of 97,

and he joined the Nation of Domination, then he could be around those guys.

And he started to learn more of the in-ring with Simmons.

And, you know, D'Lo

already had some experience at that point in time.

The Rock was new, but he got to promo.

So he started getting

a little background and training there.

And then the fucking Jerry Springer acolytes took over and he became sexual chocolate and was having an affair with May Young.

And

I think that's why by he loved it.

It seemed like he was happy with it.

He came up with the idea.

And obviously, that's one of the more memorable things of that era was

his affair with Mae Young leading to her birth of a hand.

But now he came up with the idea because he and the boys were laughing about himself being attractive to the ladies.

And it's another thing that then Vince hears about and can't resist and goes too far with and lets other people go too far.

And that was the band in Coming to America, Sexual Chocolate.

But think about this.

At that point, then people started laughing at him.

Here, you've got this giant world's strongest man, Olympic weightlifter, blah, blah, blah.

And people are laughing at him.

And

I'm sure he had a lot of fun, but

that's why that basically at that point in what, 2000,

they'd run out of things to do with him and they sent him to OVW.

He'd gotten too heavy.

They wanted him to lose weight.

And

he still didn't really, he had never, he'd skipped over all the basics of how to not only to

do wrestling, but think about wrestling.

And he just had to learn on the job.

So

it helped his physical conditioning,

but at the same time, it helped him learn more how to think.

And he also

he started appreciating the wrestling business better then because he saw what guys were doing

to get there that he had completely skipped over

with the way that things had happened.

And it's the point where one time when we were still in the old building before we moved into the new place, he bought the boys a new

air conditioner for the locker room that they could stick in the wall because it was so fucking hot.

And he was the one because he was still making $250,000 a year.

And here these guys are, you know, trying to get $300 to $500, a week.

But that's when he became more popular with guys, learning not only kind of how to, he was actually a leader at some point at that point, because he was more experienced than a lot of them.

So he took more responsibility in that.

You see what I'm saying?

Yeah, but no mention of OVW at all in the biography.

Well, no, because there's the thing they talked about when he got hazed when he first got.

into business and then he got hurt, but they couldn't just say, and then we had to send him back to developmental start from scratch four years into this thing.

That's why I'm saying it would have been an indictment of the company.

How the fuck have y'all botched this guy up that bad?

But at that point,

two things happened.

One, he got down to 390 pounds.

It was the lightest he has been in his wrestling career.

They wanted us to get him to lose weight, and we did, and he did, and was doing leapfrogs and monkey flips.

And then

we used him both as a babyface and a heel.

He was a heel here, but I liked him as a babyface better because he had the great smile and the kids liked him.

And he was the big guy that could be friendly.

And he was a name, not only from wrestling, from national television, but also the Olympics.

personal appearances, sponsors, blah, blah, blah.

But the point is, we used him as both.

We said, okay, he's in great shape.

He's, you know, he's a joy to work with.

Here you go.

And the first thing they got the idea for him to enter the Arnold Classic, and he bulked up again.

He gained like 70 pounds back for the fucking Arnold Classic, but he won it.

So, but that, that was

that now.

It's 2002.

So now

they've really decided, okay, we're going to do something fucking with him now.

But it took all that long to get him going in the right fucking direction.

This thing did a better job of building up his strongman career than anything they ever did on TV.

Well, yeah, and I didn't know why that, again,

everybody had to be a fucking comedy guy in the Springer era.

But he was legitimately the strongest man in the world

and he could do shit like that.

So we had him doing stuff in OVW, punching the fucking 10-penny nail through the board with his bare hand and bending things and lifting things, whatever the fuck, because

that's what you do with the world's strongest man.

Well, what'd you think of the way Vince was fucking with him?

Where they got him a pan they didn't think he'd be able to fold or they sent him out to the ring and

just ended the show.

It seems like he was fucked with his entire run and seemingly from the bottom up to the very top, more than most wrestlers.

Well, Vince fucking with him then, when they were talking about that, was different and way after

they when they fucked with him.

Vince gave him a fucking red carpet at the beginning because it was he had an element of Tony Khan in him.

Vince did, brand new toy.

But that's what I'm saying, though.

He was fucked with at the beginning, and he was fucked with years later by the boss of the company.

When he started fucking with him years later, it was Vince's

goddamn weird

thought process that he wanted him to be pissed off.

He didn't want him to be happy Mark.

He didn't want him to be blase Mark.

He wanted him to be

Mark.

Because remember he said they ribbed him and left him standing in a rig and he came back and got pissed off and Vince said, that's what I want.

And then there's the hall of pain

and all that other shit.

It's one of Vince's

many weird things that he does.

He wants to piss people off sometimes.

Well, again, Vince was the one behind apparently giving him a frying pan that didn't think he'd be able to bend.

And he struggled with it.

And eventually he did it, which shows how strong he was.

But why is he fucking with a guy doing something on live TV?

I don't know if that was live.

Might have been a pre-tape.

It wasn't live when they sent him out stand in the ring.

All right.

That's all right.

Yeah,

when they sent him out to stand in the ring, that didn't make air.

See, as Vince will fuck with you to get the goddamn emotion.

How would you react if you were standing in the ring waiting for something and then Tony Schimbel just shuts down the show?

I would have, I would have actually gone over in the front row, tried to grab some fan's popcorn, and just sat down at the desk and put my feet up and stayed until everybody had left.

But anyway, um,

and then the, you know, basically the retirement promo that even fooled his family.

He had his family, his teenage sweetheart.

I I remember him talking about her 20-something years ago in OVW.

They were together then and his kids.

And,

you know, that's where Vince had talked him into one more deal.

And then he went in the Hall of Fame in 2018.

And

then I couldn't believe that they mentioned AEW.

What did you think about that?

You know, I think they're trying to tell somewhat of a coherent, cohesive story.

They mentioned AEW.

They didn't mention OVW.

So that's interesting.

But, you know,

it's like.

You know, the truth is this would have been a good 90-minute documentary, and they had to stretch it to two hours.

And after a while, it was just a lot of footage of him

talking to his family.

Coaching kids, too.

He's big on coaching kids.

That's wonderful, but it was a lot of footage of it.

Again, I understand why they didn't mention OVW at the start, but I was surprised they mentioned AEW,

except to answer the question of, well, you know, if he was in the Hall of Fame and everything was so great, where's he been?

And basically, Mark said he wanted to teach, but he had to do what was best for his family,

basically meaning I had to take more money.

But what is it that, what are they letting him do or teach or say over there?

When's the last time we saw Mark Henry in public on a wrestling program?

Oh, no, I thought he,

and I could be wrong, was any one of the names released or not renewed?

Whatever it was, okay, well, then

let me double check on that.

Double check on that, please, there,

roving reporter last, because we don't want to give, but

he was in AEW for a long fucking time, and he didn't do a whole fucking lot.

So I'm wondering what they were even letting him do besides cash their check

that was the reason why why that he went there to begin with.

Yeah, he announced in May that he has left AEW.

Okay, so two months ago.

So by the time that this was all pre-shot and et cetera, whatever, but

apparently they didn't listen to a lot of his lessons.

If you don't listen to lessons, Brian, you can be lacking in your learning.

Okay, like

Larry Looper?

Well, no, he was the best one of the loopers.

I never liked Lou.

And

truthfully, I

wasn't much on his cousin

Goober, Goober Looper.

You remember him?

I don't remember.

He lived down in the holler.

I don't know anything about him, no.

All right.

So, you know, that brings up an interesting thing, Brian.

Did you have any further comments on the Mark Henry biography in total?

No, it was a very well done

piece overall.

Very likable, Mark Henry, a guy you want to to root for.

And

yeah, it was a very nice episode of biography.

I don't know what else there is to say.

Well, you know.

No mention of Jim Cornette or OVW.

That was my other big takeaway.

Well, again.

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that

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Jim, one topic that a lot of listeners have sent in.

I have an email here

sent to corney drivethru at gmail.com.

This is from

Matthew Maitland.

Interested in your thoughts, Jim, on jobber now being a derogatory term.

And this is a tweet attached from Dustin Rhodes.

Please stop using the term jobber.

It is extremely disrespectful to everyone who is putting their bodies on the line each week.

All of us

are

enhancement talent.

Oh, good lord.

We enhance each other's careers.

Show compassion to everyone that steps in this business and works hard, enhancing others.

Oh, geez.

Hashtag keep stepping.

Yeah, right on out the door.

No, I like Dustin.

I'm not knocking Dustin, but goddamn, has everybody just lost track of their fucking senses?

And

everyone has gotten so sensitive.

Jobber can be used as

a derogatory term,

as can a lot of other regular words, depending on how they're applied and in what context or what

individual or people or whatever the case.

But

no, this is another example of something that nobody thought twice about at one point in time that now has somehow become an issue because people got too many things to fucking worry about that aren't important.

And this comes from

knowing

many jobbers.

Again, in the 80s or the 70s, you know, guys would say about themselves, you know,

hopefully I'll go to TV next Saturday in Atlanta and do some jobs, or I'm one of the guys that goes over and does jobs for Mike Jackson.

Or

it was an industry term anyway that the fans, none of the fans were using that to begin with.

So it wasn't like

that they were using it as derogatory comments about somebody else's favorite.

Ah, he's a jobber.

They didn't use that word to begin with.

It was only in the business.

And the jobbers knew that they were jobbers, job guys.

And a promoter would call a fucking guy that had some guys.

Hey, can you get me five guys to do jobs on TV?

Sure, whatever.

And, you know,

I'm not saying that at some point some guy in the locker room wouldn't look at some other guy and say, ah, he's nothing but a fucking job guy.

But, you know, but it wasn't a goddamn mortal insult of

what the fuck?

Why is this

an issue now?

It's just a common term that's been used in the wrestling industry inside forever and nobody was upset about it on either side of the fence.

And now, and now it's a goddamn debate.

His father certainly used that term a good deal.

Yes, and sometimes you'd see Dusty's lineup.

He'd like versus Jobber or whatever, you know,

you didn't even fill the people's names in until you saw who showed up because it was just a breathing person to do a job, which as we know means to lay down to get beat for the star that you're trying to push, do a job for him.

Yeah, it's an industry term that in the era of newsletters and the emergence of smart fans got out.

It's kind of used beyond wrestling even.

It's weird now.

You see headlines in the newspaper.

I saw one about,

you know, it was a baseball story about the Mets getting someone in a trade.

Mets acquire longtime heel.

Like, what?

You know, it's just weird you now see wrestling terminology in everyday life.

Jobber Jabroni is like one of those things.

But it started inside.

So is Dustin saying this to fans or is he saying this to other wrestlers?

I have no idea.

He's trying to make sure nobody gets their feelings hurt.

And

that's another Jabroni, as you mentioned, is just wrestling slang

for Jobber and The Rock didn't invent it.

The Rock picked it up when he was a kid.

Lawler was saying it on his interviews on Memphis TV in the 70s.

Call it, you know, whoever that he was working with, some fucking Jabroni.

And

it's just, it existed in wrestling for years and years and years.

And suddenly now people are getting their feelings hurt.

If you're, Brian, if you're in acting,

are you not allowed to be called an extra?

Because that's what Vince used to call him.

He tried to get away from job guys and into extras, because that sounded more TV.

But now, if this is the case with the wrestlers, then are the actors allowed to be called extras or is that disrespectful?

Well, here's the other issue: jobber, enhancement, talent, extra, whatever you want to say.

Are there even that many on wrestling TV nowadays?

There's a difference between job guys

and guys who always do jobs.

Is he saying they're being called jobbers?

I mean, that's the thing.

Like, what

we don't know what he's saying, obviously, but

it's bizarre

because who's he saying this to and well a lot of times another word for job guys local you see the lineup and and so-and-so versus local some guy that shows up get his ass beat he's from there we didn't have to fly him in whatever it's

it's not being disrespectful it's being realistic to these guys and what their standing is in the community at the current time.

And that doesn't mean it can't never change because a lot of the

major stars of the

seven, a lot of the major stars of any goddamn decade started in the business, doing jobs, getting beat, jerking a curtain every night.

If they even got booked every night.

All right.

Well, that was the Dustin Rhodes jobber question

taken care of there.

Jim, another question here from the Cult of Cornet.

This was sent to Corney DriveThru at gmail.com.

From Kristen O.

My husband mentioned to me that the man who used to live across the street from him when he was a child passed away several years ago.

And he had heard...

Has she just heard about it now?

And he had heard that the guy used to be a wrestler in the Nashville Territory days.

Uh-oh.

One of these stories, huh?

According to my husband, as well as several of the comments left on the man's online obituary,

the man's name was Tommy Reynolds, and he wrestled as the Midnight Angel.

Based on the fact he was born in 1947,

I guess he would have been wrestling anywhere from about the late 60s to the mid or late 80s.

However, I can't find any information on him.

Or any evidence of him.

Any evidence whatsoever.

Or any evidence of him wrestling in Nashville shows during that time period.

I know he must have done at least a little bit since I'm seeing other people post about their memories of him, but I can't find anything to prove it.

Jim, I figured if anyone would know anything about the Midnight Angel

or a Tommy Reynolds wrestling in or around Nashville, it would be you.

Please let me know if you know or can find out anything.

Well,

what do you know and what can you find out?

Well, I can't find out anything.

And I know enough to know we don't need to call Scott Teal as an expert on Nashville wrestling for there was no midnight angel.

If this guy was born in 1947, he would have been wrestling by the

early to mid-70s at least.

And all Nashville

cards.

I've seen them.

I was watching the televisions.

They've been documented in various publications.

Tommy Reynolds or Tommy Runnels?

How was it?

Tommy Reynolds, R-E-Y-N-O-L-D-S.

Yeah, no, no.

No,

no.

Now, when you say you're familiar with who worked those shows in Nashville during those years, beyond Gulis and Jarrett,

were there outlaw shows in Nashville proper during those years?

There were outlaw shows that

came and went, and, you know, like in the suburbs or whatever.

I mean,

my God, did he wrestle on a show that his friends put on in a barn three times that there was never any newspaper ad?

Yeah, but no, not with any

recognized professional organization in Nashville.

Was there a

Midnight Angel?

And I've never heard the other name.

And

you hear these stories all the time.

Remember the fake Stan Lane?

And

I can't tell you how many people over 20 years I've had come into the house to work on the air conditioning and see some of my posters.

Oh, yeah,

I used to live across the street from the original mass spoiler

because they just

these people

tell other people that

can't find out the difference that they were pro wrestlers and they were always masked which avoids them having to come up with that pesky fucking photograph of themselves actually wrestling So I'm pretty sure that this is horseshit,

but that's just me.

Do you feel like maybe you inspired this man, the Midnight Angel?

Would that have been a good name for a masked babyface sidekick for the Midnight Express?

Well, I'm trying to figure out what other gimmick he was combining with the.

Was his favorite job guy, Tommy Angel?

Was there a Midnight Devil that he was sent to Earth to to fight and oppose?

I don't get the gimmick.

What was Tommy Angel's real

Oh, good lord.

It wasn't Tommy Reynolds.

No, it wasn't.

Okay, just double-checking.

I used to know it at one point.

Now I can't.

Well, I don't know if he'd want me to say it on the air anyway.

Hey, where did Lee Scott come from?

He was one of the Northern Alabama guys, as I recall.

Because when he showed up, there was a brief period he was there.

He took the most hellacious bumps anyone had taken on TBS ever.

Yes, that's why that we booked him on tv every chance we could because he could take a bigger backdropper of fucking you know a bigger anything that especially with all the road warriors and the samoans and all the guys we had to boost him

where was the first time you saw that chris hamrick bump the one that he did on raw like twice and both times the audience was blown away where I don't even know how to explain.

He goes for a drop kick of some sort, but he just no, no, no, hold on, hold on.

He's hitting the ropes.

And by the way, way, I saw it the first time he did it on Raw.

I was like, what the fuck?

Did you mean to do that?

Oh, yeah.

But as he's coming off the ropes, the babyface sidesteps him and leg sweeps him with the babyface's right leg to where it like he swept both of his feet out from under Chris.

And Chris

jumps up and goes feet first through the second and third rope straight to the floor without touching anything.

And I was like, God damn it.

They say, yeah, I can do it whenever I want to.

That's good.

That's good.

I like Chris Hamrick.

He was a heck of a worker, but I didn't see the

people talked about that bump, but I didn't see the upside in it.

No, but you remember it.

It stood out.

And yeah, but you generally remember the major car crash that leaves you in a goddamn wheelchair and an iron lung.

Can you be in a wheelchair and an iron lung at the same time?

I don't know.

You're the iron lung expert here.

Well, I'm wondering if they'd be able to

just kind of put your upper body in the iron lung and then slide the chair in under your ass and have your legs kind of sticking up in the air.

Well, Jim, our next question sent on the Facebook

sent by

Jim.

This next one was sent via Facebook, is what I was trying to say.

The official Cult of Cornet Facebook group.

This was sent in by Josh

Tusteson.

Would Ken Shamrock or Dan Severn in their primes have been able to defeat Brock Lesnar in a real fight or shoot wrestling match?

Oh, geez.

Well, the answer is yes.

Because at that level, anybody can beat anybody if both fighters are in their prime era of age and athletic

competitiveness.

So the short answer is yes, but

I mean,

when you get to that level,

it's really how the fight goes and

which guy can make it about his style first because

Dan was not

an exciting

fighter because he was so based in wrestling and ground and pound and immobilize and fucking whatever

And, you know, he wasn't the

chiseled physique of Shamrock, who had not had

the level of amateur career that Dan had, but had more explosiveness.

But then you've got Brock, who,

you know, wasn't a Dan Gable as far as technique, but was a physical freak as far as power.

And with training, he was really dangerous.

But either one of those guys could have beat either one of the other two,

depending on how it fucking went, because Severn and Shamrock both did.

Does that answer the question?

So you're saying yes.

So I'm saying yes, there's a chance.

There's a chance.

Yeah,

at that level,

in a shoot, and depending on what the rules are and what the,

you know, what style is what,

any of those guys could have beat any of those guys.

all right very diplomatic jill and cornet with that answer well no i'm not even i'm being realistic

yes i believe do you think shamrock's at the same level as a lesnar or severin again these are high quality wrestlers and shamrock did shoot fighting and

but what are the rules is this strictly collegiate wrestling is it mma is it some kind of weird hybrid?

Is it brawl for all?

What are the goddamn rules here?

That's what

in a real fight is what the question was, right?

Right.

So, in a real fight, yes, depending on what the rules and the styles were and what happened early, any of the three of those guys could have beat the other ones.

You think Brock could be knocked out?

Yeah,

anybody can be knocked out.

How high is the building he has to fall off of?

I'm not sure.

Oh, go ahead.

I was just going to say, neither one of

neither Severn nor Shamrock would have probably knocked him out or even tried,

you know, to knock him out.

They would have tried to tap him out, and Brock has tapped out before.

Well, Jim, our next question, once again, from the Facebook group, The Official Cult of Cornet, sent in by Perry Cox.

I'm not sure if this has been covered before.

You're just making these up now.

This is his name, Perry Cox.

It says, Perry do it.

Do it to it, Cox.

Yeah, is he the brother of Dixon Cox?

I'm not sure if this has been been covered before.

I'm not sure how much we're going to have to bleep on YouTube, but I always wondered why the Midnight Express were not immediately put back in the World Tag title picture over teams like Rude and Fernandez and Ole and Arn Anderson.

I know they were U.S.

tag champs not long after losing the World Tag titles, but it just seems to me as a fan, they should have been the main challengers as the top heel tag team.

Again, sorry if this has been asked before, but thank you.

Well, and

honestly, the way that it turned out with Rude and Fernandez and how they, you know, left and et cetera, you know, we should have been.

But I understand Dusty was trying to make a new heel team, and he always liked Manny Fernandez, and he saw something in Rick Rude,

and they weren't the level of

team that the Midnight Express were, but they had just teamed up.

You couldn't expect them to be, but he wanted to make, as I said, a new heel team.

And then they all fucking got mad and walked out.

But

with also

in 1986, we were the World Tag Team Champions eight months out of that year.

And the time that we weren't, it was the Rock and Roll Express.

So

if we then lost the belts to the rock and roll and then were the immediate

guys trying to challenge him right away, there's almost no difference.

He wanted to change things up, and that's why

he instituted the U.S.

tag team title and had us win the tournament.

And then he pretty much, he told us in these words, the U.S.

tag belts are part of your ring outfit now, baby.

They were almost always ours because

he knew that as heels and with my promos, we could get heat out of just having belts.

And because we were former world champions, we would make them more prestigious for the babyfaces going for them.

And we would drop them to somebody,

the Fantastics, whatever, and then get them back because it was part of our ring wardrobe.

But with Ole and Arne, they were part of the Horsemen, and then later on it became Tully and Arne.

And no problem with Tully and Arne being the...

the champions and the top heel team being pushed because they were excellent in their own way.

But with Rudin Fernandez, yeah, for a while, before I really learned what the fucking hindsight Dusty was probably trying to do, I was like, well, Jesus Christ,

they went from us in the rock and roll to eh.

But it was what it was.

Well, Jim, our next question sent via email to CorneyDriveThru at gmail.com.

It's from Jeff in upstate New York.

Can you fellas think of some other wrestlers that were so fucking good that they carried two nicknames, much less simultaneously?

Also,

any and all thoughts or comments on the master of the superplex, the ace

cowboy Bob Orton, he doesn't say Bob Orton, just as the ace cowboy.

Would truly be appreciated.

So I guess that may be where he's coming from with wrestlers with two nicknames, the ace cowboy.

Oh, ace, cowboy bob.

But two nicknames.

What do you think of that?

Well, I mean, I guess it's happened, and I'm

blindsided by the question.

So, Brian, can you think of any?

Because I don't really know, and I don't know that I've ever cared.

But,

you know, a lot of heels, when they would do promos, they would talk themselves up as being this, that, or the other thing.

But Cowboy Bob Orton

had already been Cowboy Bob Orton for a long time, and then

he became ace because Roddy Piper started calling him ace in the promos.

And

that's kind of how that happened.

Slick Rick?

I don't know if you're considering that.

Slick Rick, the nature boy.

Yeah, I don't know if you consider that.

I don't, they weren't officially, you know, put in the newspaper advertisements or, you know, whatever.

Dr.

Big Bill Miller.

Well, there you go.

But both were legitimate because he was a doctor of veterinary medicine, so he was a doctor, and he was 6'6 and 300 pounds, so he was big.

Do you like big is a nickname?

I mean, some guys rock it, like Big John Studd, but then there's also like, you know, Wayne Munn.

Well, there's also Big Bill.

Big Bill.

Well, that doesn't count.

That's new.

Well, but and see, here's the thing.

Big John Studd had a payoff, right?

Big Bill has no payoff.

He's big and he's John, but he's a stud.

Whereas he's big and he's Bill.

Even like Big Bad John, he was big.

That's what because it was another qualifier.

Yeah.

Big Bad John.

You don't need a last name with a name like that.

Everybody knows you're big

and you're bad.

And you're John.

You don't need to be big bad John Hinkelmeier.

See, that would be too much.

And then you'd crowd yourself off the marquee.

And they'd just go with

John Pismo or whoever was shorter.

Any other rest was the two nicknames you could think of.

Oh, well, the Legion of Doom, the Road Warriors.

Well, but now, is that nicknames?

That's not really nickname.

The Road Warriors was a team.

The Midnight Express wasn't really a nickname.

It was a team name.

But they can't.

That's true.

I was going to say they had.

Beautiful Bobby and sweet Stan.

They would have been beautiful, luscious Bobby and sweet, gorgeous Stan.

Well, the Sultan of Swing,

sweet Stan Lane.

You called him that enough, right?

No, no.

He was the gangster of love.

Bobby was the sultan of swing.

Ah, shit.

Yeah, see?

So the point is, this is a drivel question.

But Bob Orton Jr.

was one of the great workers of the fucking modern era.

No doubt about that.

And this makes me think of my favorite ring introduction for whatever reason.

From the land of the rising sun, the pearl of the Orient, the great Muda.

And that's Gary Hart terminology.

He loved terminology like the Pearl of the Orient, brother.

Well, I think that was actually the start of it.

Gary Hart presents.

Yes.

Because he also liked to present people.

Yeah, like he was Bill Graham, the concert promoter.

Gorgeous George Jr.

did that also in Knoxville with the Mongolian stomper.

Instead of managed by Gorgeous George, it was Gorgeous George Jr.

presents the Mongolian Stomper.

All right.

Well, I have sent you

something that came into a drive-through email because it was

because it was kind of long, so I thought I would send it to you.

But it follows up on a previous conversation we have had on the show about syndicated wrestling television and a name that we didn't mention in that conversation, Johnny Doyle.

I'm looking at it right now.

That email.

The clipping from the los angeles times of november 30th 1950

because we were talking about audience size like how big yes could hollywood wrestling have been how many towns was it going in how many stations was it on what was the audience size

and this was across the country is what we were talking about when these tapes were being syndicated to different stations around the country.

But

as I'm looking at this,

Johnny Doyle was claiming that when wrestling bouts were being televised,

750,000 per show at the Long Beach Arena and 700,000 at Ocean Park.

In addition, these two shows are recorded and retelecast over 26 stations in the United States to more than 10 million persons.

So he's saying

the local Los Angeles airings were 750 and 700,000.

And

I think we can believe that with the population of Los Angeles, even in 1950, and the fact there were, what, three television stations, maybe?

If you were watching TV.

And again, going to the note, this was sent in by one of the listeners, Adam Smith, East Yorkshire, England.

Let me see what he says here.

I'm currently researching that period in Southern California and found the below clipping from the L.A.

Times 30th of November 1950.

While there's no way to validate the viewing numbers Doyle puts forth, the station numbers are likely accurate.

It's also noteworthy that this is after the first wrestler walkout at the Hollywood Legion in February 1950 that caused Doyle to cut down on the amount of weekly television shows to just two.

Yeah, remember that

when TV first hit,

they were starting, the promotion was starting to get deals with TV stations to air the shows in Long Beach and the shows in Ocean Park.

And the wrestlers weren't getting paid for that, but because it was on television, it was hurting the live attendance.

And that's how.

And the Olympic.

And the Olympic.

Yeah, the Olympic too.

And that's how the wrestlers did get paid on the gates.

So they wait.

What the fuck?

They walked out and they

not only pressured for money for TV, but also

for less television because it was hurting the

live event gates.

But at the same time,

the arena promoters and the athletic commissions, as Adam mentions, were saying, no, put more on TV.

But, you know, the wrestlers are like, fuck you, we're getting screwed.

And that started that whole brew haha.

You know, it is interesting.

At some point, that was the first time that conversation happened.

I'm not saying here, but at some point, late 40s, more than likely early 50s.

Hey, we're not getting paid extra in Chicago, in Los Angeles, in Texas, wherever it may be.

You know, you couldn't really sell it then like these are being used to promote the local matches.

Yeah.

Because that really wasn't what wrestling TV was then.

Well,

they had never at that point sold guys on being on TV to promote the local matches because, as you said, they weren't actually doing that yet.

They had just started that when this started.

So

the promoters just started getting on TV and not paying the boys any extra.

Sort of like 40 years later, Vince just starts

selling home video and not paying the boys any extra because nobody had ever fucking thought of it before because they didn't do it.

You know, there's a name that needs a good book or someone needs to write something good about him, Johnny Doyle, a major shaker in wrestling and in the middle of a lot of things.

Yeah, and always

friendly with Barnett and

whoever the

major promoters were in the business for years and years.

But he was Barnett's guy until he died.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, that was the questions.

We're going to get more questions on a drive-thru.

And of course, if you have questions, you could submit them via email, corny drive-through at gmail.com.

If you're a member of the Facebook group, we will have a new post up soon and on twitter hashtag corney drivethrough

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I've got a breaking update here.

News coming across the ticker.

A breaking update?

On the entertainment desk here.

Remember, we were talking about when I went to summer camp, they herded us into a room and they showed us a black and white movie on a fucking screen they pulled down with a

when we were holding a bottle of RC cola and a moon pie.

That was the entertainment, right?

I couldn't remember the name of the movie.

I thought it was Grandma So-and-So Meets the Vampire.

It was not Old Mother Riley Meets the Vampire,

starring Bella Lugosi and Arthur Lucan, who played Old Mother Riley because it was a man dressed up as a woman.

I can't remember all the particulars.

Old Mother Riley Meets the Vampire.

That was the movie.

Who sent this in?

How did you find out?

I got it on Twitter just now.

I retweeted it.

They included the poster for Old Mother Riley Meets the Vampire.

It was a comedy horror flick

done in Bella Lugosi's morphine days.

As in his entire career.

Oh, come on now.

I was hooked on Junkis' entire career.

He was, you know, well, at first he was just undead, and then he had to have prescriptions to cure that.

But anyway, so that's

what that was there.

Fine flick.

What'd you think of Ed Wood?

What'd you think of Martin Landau?

as Bella Lugosi.

I thought it was good.

I liked,

I've told you this before.

George Steele was a great Tor Johnson, but they even contacted me in Knoxville to send them pictures of the Mongolian stomper when they were trying to cast the Tor Johnson.

But

George Steele looked more like Tor Johnson because Archie was,

even though he was almost 60, he was fucking etched.

He was goddamn cut, sculptured.

If you will.

And that's what you thought of Ed Wood.

Okay.

That's what, no, it was a good movie.

Good movie.

Very fine movie.

Not no Old Mother Riley Meets the Vampire, but it was good.

And Martin Landau's performance?

As Bella Lugosi.

And he went all the way to actually use the real heroine, too.

That was incredible.

All right.

It's that kind of show today, folks.

All right.

It's your show.

Well, it's my show, but you had some things to ask me about, Brian.

As you told me earlier today before we went on the air.

Well, we have a few things here that we haven't been able to do on the drive-thru, so we're going to conquer your show, take it over.

Why is the drive-thru always so jammed and we got nothing going on over here these days?

We're having the Yips movement.

Everyone's coming and we're taking over your show and making it for the people here today.

Lots of guest drumming and all sorts of chaos.

But, Jim, we're going to have some guests to program.

Before we get there, let's talk about some recent retro action figures or retro wrestling figures.

What are these?

There's really no action.

I mean, you really can't say action, I don't think.

I think you just say these are retro figures because

you can make them have action if you move them, but

they're not self-animated.

They don't, they're not

there's no spring action.

No kung fu grip?

Well, they have a grip.

This PN News figure here I have in my hand has a grip on it.

Oh,

he's got a

gold microphone.

I was going to say he had an egg fund grip instead of a kung fu grip.

He was a.

And by the way, we'll talk about this real quick because

PN News is the latest figure that was put out by KWK.

Let me grab one of these over here.

These

are so loud.

The official KWK Kayfave Heroes wrestling line, PN News.

There's two variants, one in his traditional baby blue, and of course one in his famed orange get up with the word yo right on front.

Yo.

But

we have a few extra of these that were thankfully sent over to the business.

Now, think about this.

This was 1991.

The kids had been rapping for a while at that point.

And the brain trust that was Jim Heard and the rest of the echelon at TBS thought that this guy was a cutting-edge rapper because he said yo.

Well, he actually said, yo, baby, yo, baby, yo.

And it always made me laugh because that was the thing that Eddie Murphy made the guy say at like gunpoint at Beverly Hills Cop 2.

It's like, do you like rap music?

Say, yo, baby, yo, baby.

It's the same thing.

Almost not a gunpoint.

Unless you looked at the ratings, not a gunpoint shoot.

But that's what PN News was saying to the audience.

They tried everything else but gunpoint.

I don't even, I think people would have just said, go ahead and shoot.

Well, like I said, we have a couple of these rare rare figures because it was not a large run.

No.

These are all collector's items.

We have a couple extras that were sent over to us by

KWK Sean Ng.

We're going to have a contest on the Cult of Cornette Facebook group.

Best rap.

Write a rap, and we'll judge it.

The experts in rap.

Jim Cornette.

Now, wait a minute.

You're saying that they have to write a rap, and then we got to read it and we got to judge it.

So

if you've read the raps they've written, you'll know they're really well-written raps.

Yeah, it has to be something about the show or about something we talk about.

It can't just be, here's a rap I wrote years ago.

I've been waiting for my chance.

And also, be conscious that we're not going to be able to read it or listen to it if it's just filled with filth.

So, if it's something unlike this program, if it is something in rhyme that the Von Ericks would reject in 1983,

don't send it in.

But otherwise, the Cult of Cornet Facebook group will have more about that.

Jim, I have here.

Move over here.

You're over there now.

The latest from the official Grapplers and Gimmicks line by Hastel Toys.

Nada, is this Lynn Denton's firm?

No, that would be just Grappler, no Grapplers and Gimmicks.

Oh, okay.

So he started Grappler and Gimmicks, and now they're trading on Grapplers and Gimmicks, trying to avoid some kind of copyright infringement.

Hold on, on this topic,

should they have stayed the Grapplers?

or do you think becoming the dirty white boys was the right move?

I think at the time, the dirty white boys was a better move because

honestly, Lynn was great with the grappler gimmick, but it was pushed and it was established in Portland.

When they came to Tennessee as the grapplers,

there had been so many masked guys and so many mass jobbers and just so much of the masked thing had been prostituted that I think when you could see their faces, and especially it gave Tony a gimmick for years after that, but when you could see their faces, and

you know, because they were both excellent workers, it was better for that particular place and time.

Well, the tag team featured here from Hastell Toys,

no name, a lost opportunity to say not the Mounties,

The Pierre Carl Olette and Jacques Rouge.

Pierre Carl Olette.

You see, you don't have good French accents there, Brian.

Oh, you do?

Well, yes.

Oh, you do?

Oh, you do?

Oh, you do.

We, we, monsieur.

Oh, I see.

I do.

Oh.

All right.

And the soup son and the soup, and then you have the cooking.

First of all, we apologize to all of our French and French Canadian fans.

second of all no i'm not apologizing to any french canadians they never apologized to anybody else once again i have here they were known as the quebeckers in the wwe in 1993 which was known as a wwf actually in 1993

what do you think the finishing maneuver listed here for pierre car oulet

what do you think the finishing maneuver is oh good lord i'm trying to because it's never

almost never what they actually used almost never yeah they've caught us a few times.

They caught us a couple times, but secondly, I'm trying to remember what they were using.

Was it the

Alouetta, Janti Alouetta?

I don't know.

The Canadian Crunch.

Okay, I don't remember the Canadian Crunch being, unless that's a soft drink.

What was Jacques' finishing maneuver?

Or what is the figure's finishing maneuver for Jacques?

I guess I should say.

Jacques's finishing maneuver was getting so much heat that they finished him up.

That's right.

Jacques Jolt.

Jacques Jolt.

Jacques Jolt.

Is that why they finished him up in 94?

Which I can't remember what he went through a time or two.

No, Jacques was

a fine talent, but he had ways of getting heat on himself because of the French-Canadian air that he exhibited.

And by the way, the back of this figure promises coming soon a couple of interesting figures.

We have downtown Bruno.

All right.

Who's dressed like Brian Hildebrand for some reason?

And here's a big one.

James W.

Ware.

James W.

Ware with his faithful bird, who I guess.

Oh, but no, wait a minute.

How in the world can he not be Coco?

He was Coco Ware in his first wrestling match in 1978.

That was six years, seven years before he went to the WWF.

How could he not be Coco Ware now?

Unless somewhere along the way, he sold the rights to Coco to someone, but I don't know how that would work.

He sold his soul to Coco?

That's not exactly what I said.

And it sounds so ridiculous because it is, but there it is.

The upcoming figures, but this is the recent release.

Grapplers and gimmicks, Hastel Toys,

not the Mounties, not the Quebecers.

But almost.

Not Coco.

Jim, I have here.

I wonder, could he just be Co?

Co-where?

Well, I have here

from Zombie Sailors' official wrestling heels and faces toy line,

President Jack Tunney.

Oh, my God.

Although it doesn't say president, it just says Jack Tunney.

I don't know if they're allowed to list the official office title that he had for the bullshit position, but.

He wasn't really the president, but he was someone who made as much money on the WWF expansion almost as much as any wrestler in some ways.

What are you talking about?

Almost as much as any wrestler.

Jack Tunney, I guarantee you, made more money at that period of time in his affiliation with the WWF than any of the boys did.

Maybe Hogan.

Maybe Hogan.

Because

not only was the Tunney family

really the operators and manipulators of

Ontario wrestling and that part of Canada wrestling for years and years, even predating

Vince McMahon Jr.

But

Canada was always an important market for the WWF during the time of Vince's expansion.

And

goddamn, who was it just cut the promo on one of the programs saying, even when business was down, Canada was always there?

And it was true.

And Jack Tunney, as owner of the promotion and the ruling family there, out of Toronto with those stadium shows they did and the skydome and the blah, blah, blah.

I would think he made more money at that period of time than any of the boys.

As I said, maybe except for Hogan, because the promoters of markets like that were always making more money than the fucking boys.

So I have this figure here.

And again, it's cool for someone like me or other nerds who are trying to complete their collection of every living person that was involved with wrestling in the toy years.

But Jack Tunney as president on screen, was there a least charismatic man to ever be president of a wrestling company?

And what are your thoughts?

What should that role be?

What kind of personality do you think should be in that kind of role?

Well, remember when they had Bob Geigel on television as the president of the NWA because he was the president of the NWA and he had flip-flops and shorts on and a Hawaiian shirt and a bald head.

Fucking hell.

And that was the way he really dressed, but we didn't need to know that.

Jack Toney,

you didn't need charisma at that point to be the president of the end of the NWF, of the WWF or be the figurehead president of a wrestling promotion.

You were supposed to be an older guy.

that looked good in a suit and was saying legitimate shit and not sounding like a gimmick, so that the gimmicks, the talent, and their antics and behavior would stand out.

And then,

you know,

there's always been

the commissioner or the special promotional executive or the, you know, representative of the promotion that was really in the office some kind of way was one of the boys or had retired from being one of the boys.

And I think those

types are easier to draw money with because you can get them in the ring or they can do angles or they can cut promos.

With Jack Tunney, obviously, you couldn't do any of that because he couldn't do any of that.

But he was a really stately-looking gray-haired gentleman who you could believe was the president of a fucking,

you know, some type of sports organization.

So it's, it's, pick your poison.

I always like the gorilla monsoon type or the,

you know, the Bill Watts type or the Bob Armstrong type or the type that you could get in the ring and do shit with or he could be involved physically.

When I was a kid, it blew my mind with my father, who wasn't a wrestling fan, but he kind of knew who the major players were.

When he told me that Vince McMahon owned WWF,

not Jack Tunney.

Again, I was a kid.

I didn't realize, you know, you could be the president and not own the company.

But the idea that there was the commentator who Jesse Ventura yelled at and not Jack Tunney, that blew my mind.

So that's what happened to it.

That's it, it's Vince McMahon and Jack Tunney's fault.

How many people have said that?

So you've been blown by Vince McMahon and Jack Tunney.

I did not say that.

Again, this whole episode has just been an incredible insight into clearly a filthy, filthy mind.

Filthy, filthy, filthy.

Jim, I have another figure here.

This one, once once again, from the Hastel Toys Grapplers and Gimmicks toy line.

The new Mark Merrow action figure.

Does it come with Sable suitcase?

It comes with three variants.

There is a...

No, he...

He wasn't even good enough for one variant.

He was straight down the middle.

He just, that's what you got.

Well, no, this one has red on white trunks or red and white trunks.

This other one has black and yellow, and of course, black and uh

silver or gray here.

Mark Merrill, what do you think his finishing maneuver is?

Oh, boy.

Um,

uh, divorce papers?

The wild womp.

The wild womp.

Okay,

well, he wasn't the wild thing.

Was he the wild one?

Wild man.

Wild man.

Wild man.

He was a wild man.

That's another one.

I told you the story when Bruce was all excited about signing Mark Henry.

He can dunk a basketball.

He was over the moon about Mark Merrow because Vince was over the moon about Mark Merrow, because Vince McMahon was over the moon about Johnny B.

Bad,

which is what he thought he was getting when he got Mark Merrow.

And then

you should have heard Bruce trying to sell me sable.

Oh, and his wife's beautiful and she's coming with him.

I say he's going to be a babyface.

Oh, yeah.

Well, why does he need the woman?

Well, because she's his wife and she's beautiful.

Well, then everybody will be staring at her and not paying any attention to him.

And why does a babyface need a girl in his corner?

Isn't that rather presumptuous and obnoxious of him?

He's this big ladies' man.

Oh, no, they're a married couple.

Even worse.

Then, goddamn, the women won't like him because he's married, and the men won't like him because he's married this fucking hot chick.

Bruce and I couldn't get along on these gimmicks, as you can tell.

By the way, everything I said would happen came to pass, but nevertheless.

You know what's crazy?

His name is Mark Merrow, M-E-R-O.

And there's so many similarities between him and Miro,

M-I-R-O.

Maybe they could be a team.

Merrow?

Either that.

No, Mark Miro, he's older now.

He could be Miro's manager.

Accompanied by Miro Miro.

Well, we have here, Jim, one more figure here today.

And actually, there's two of these.

Let me grab this.

I'm very happy to say two of these are on the way to you right now in the mail.

Bless your little pee-picking heart.

This is the latest from Mattel's WWE Legends toyline,

the brand new Big Bubba Rogers action figure.

There are two variants.

There is one with a white shirt, black suspenders, brown hat, and there is one with a blue shirt, black suspenders, and a black hat.

Both come with sunglasses.

The UWF Heavyweight Championship.

And a, I guess what you would say, return to WCW Bubba Rogers late 90s head as well, if you wanted to switch the head out.

Don't let me read the description to you, Jim.

Wait, but he's still, he had the same fucking head.

Well, no, but the hair, the

head on the figure here.

The head on the hair?

It has a beard, it has a mustache, it has longer hair.

The big boss man, it's a goatee, more of a crew-cut kind of look.

And that's what he returned as.

But anyway, the description.

Big Bubba Rogers was a force to be reckoned with in the 80s.

The 1980s, to be exact.

The agile big man began his career as a bodyguard for Jim Cornette and the Midnight Express before taking on legends like Dusty Rhodes, One Man Gang, and Michael Hayes.

Later, I never think of.

I never think of Big Bubba Rogers versus Michael Hayes ever.

Not exactly a Briscoe and Funk rivalry, but later Rogers traveled to WWE where he dished out hard time

as Big Boss Man.

So we finally get everyone has their Midnight Express action figures and, of course, Cornette Collectibles at JimCornet.com.

Well, thank you.

You actually anticipated, I was going to say, if you need more classic wrestling figures, the Midnight Express and Heavenly Bodies tag team set available at jimcornet.com, but go ahead.

But now there is a big Bubba to protect the Jim Cornette action figure.

To serve and protect.

What are your thoughts on the fact that there is this,

they call him a Chase,

the shirt variant.

The blue shirt, which is the harder one to get.

Again, not dark blue, but like a, you know, a blue shirt.

Well, like the blue, like the blue boss man.

Like the big boss man had a blue boss man, yes.

Yes, or the blue ball man.

I don't know.

What I'm trying to say to you is the boss man had the blue shirt because it was more of a police officer type of apparatus, whereas Big Bubba had a white shirt.

Well, that's what I was going to ask you because, you know, it's funny when I saw this, I started thinking to myself, did he ever wear that as Big Bubba?

Again, it's not as dark blue.

Not that it was dark blue, it's the Big Boss Man's uniform, but it's a dress shirt.

Yes.

Bluish.

Well, because they can't do an actual police or guards uniform, or that would be the infringement upon the trademark of the Big Boss Man.

I don't know if that's, well, we'll see what you think.

Big Bubba Rogers wore white shirts.

He didn't wear a blue shirt.

Well,

not to be bogged down in minutiae.

I'm glad to see that Big Bubba got a figure because, and that's why I thought it was so so crazy when he left the WWF and they brought him back in WCW

that they didn't immediately and permanently make him Big Bubba Rogers

and that they tried to do these the Guardian Angel and the boss and the

all these stupid trying to get around the copyright.

Big Bubba had been a big deal five years previously in the same company.

And it was also, also, it was him as much as the, and I understand why Vince changed Big Bubba to the boss man

because he wants to own the gimmicks and blah, blah, blah.

And it was more of a WWF gimmick.

But it was still Bubba because he was a prison guard at Cobb County and Marietta and he had that in him.

And the Big Bubba thing was what he had created.

himself and made based on the parameters that Dusty and I gave him as far as just a wrestling bodyguard and the things he

needed to pick up on pretty quick.

But that other stuff was just foolishness, and it wasn't gimmicks that looked good on him, and it wasn't stuff that he could sink his teeth into, and it was just trying to remind people in a vague way about who he had been before when he was at a big company, Pinocchio.

I hated all that other shit.

He was too good for that.

What are your thoughts on the figure coming with the UWF championship?

Well, that is the thing about this.

Bubba,

I don't even know if Dusty ever put him in a match for a title when he was our bodyguard and working the Crockett into the territory when they bought UWF.

Dusty had so much faith in him and wanted to create

or get him to the next level, even above that, and create another single heel star

and put the belt on him.

But that's the only singles singles belt he ever had or even challenged for before he went to the WWF.

I love that match, too.

Him against the one-man gang on UWF TV for the title because they're both heels.

One-man gang had been there for a while with Akbar.

Bubba had never been there ever.

And the fans that were still left at that point

reacted to it the same way I did at home.

It was such a big deal.

These two guys could both move.

Yeah.

What were they both, 6'6 or 6'7?

Gang

was so, Gang was one of those guys who was deceptively big.

I don't know if he was taller than 6'4 or 6'5, but because of his weight and just the space he took up, Bubba was probably about 6'6, 6'7,

maybe.

And he weighed a little bit more, but they were both very similar.

in when they first started in the business because gang started with the popos and icw And when I was watching those TVs, I was like, my God,

here's this fucking guy this size that nobody's ever heard of before has never wrestled anywhere else.

And he's taking these over-the-top rope bumps and, you know, over the top of the post and all this other stuff.

And then when Bubba came along, what

like five, six years later than Gang,

He was doing this, he was taking

unique and different style bumps, and he had had a different style of offense because he had

he had really again had on-the-job training and had figured this out as he was going along

so it but he figured out some different shit that worked for him and he picked it up quick and it was totally unique for a style for a big guy at that time

but i'm i'm i can't wait to see the figure Even with all the different heads.

Figures, different heads, different shirts.

You'll be getting them in the mail.

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All right.

Well, Jim, would you like to do some guess the program before we wrap things up?

I've been waiting for this.

I'm going to kick your ass today.

If we haven't prepped the folks, guess the program, the recurring segment, one of our most popular, where you pick a program, give me the lineup, and it is my job to try to determine the year that this happened and the place that this happened.

Now you're making all kinds of noises over there.

You're

flipping and you're swallowing.

I'm not swallowing.

Sounded like glug, glug, glug.

All right.

Well, let's go to this gym.

We have a whole bunch of here.

It's been a long time since we've gone through them, so the pile has grown.

This is a gimme.

We'll start with a nice, easy one for you.

Okay.

I know how old you are.

Rocky Smith versus Tony Belageron.

Belarian.

Exactly.

In a tag team match, Eddie Graham and Sam Steamboat versus Gene Dundee and Tamya Soto.

Tamayo.

They left out a letter here in this program.

Sailor Art Thomas in a handicap match against Tojo Yamamoto

and Bob Arnold.

An intermission where lucky numbers in the program will be announced.

And the main event: Lester Welch and Buddy Fuller versus the Von Brauner brothers.

Alrighty, then.

Rocky Smith would later on go to become,

go to become, go on to become

one of the massed infernos

uh one of the several that used that gimmick uh tony belarian was uh a a sibling of the balergian brothers that were big especially in the northeast and in the 50s they were all strong men were they not did feats of strength and daring do

and daring do yes Daring do, as opposed to the people who daring don't, because they don't want to be daring.

Tamayo Soto,

and did you say Gene Dundee?

That is indeed who I said, yes.

Obviously not Bill Dundee.

Didn't Gene Dundee become

goddamn, was he a brother of the Monroe, Sputnik Monroe, at one time, or am I think he became another brother of someone?

Nevertheless, Eddie Graham and Sam Steamboat were

the perennial tag team babyface champions and/or singles champions in the Florida Territory.

And

at this period of time, which was in the mid-1960s,

they were also doing quite a bit of work in Memphis, Tennessee.

Art Thomas versus Tojo Yamamoto and Bob Arnold.

I believe Bob Arnold was a heel referee gimmick that they were doing at that period of time.

And Tojo was a heel.

Art Thomas was a babyface.

He didn't work the Memphis territory

often, but they brought Art Thomas, Bobo Brazil,

and different people in because of the heavy African-American population.

And finally,

I assume that Lester Welch and Buddy Fuller are fighting the Von Brauners for the World Tag Team title.

Would that be the case?

There is no title listed.

No title listed.

But you know they did that many times.

It's got to be Memphis, Tennessee.

The question I have in my mind is whether it's 1965, 1966, or 1967.

So I'm going to split the difference and go with 66.

The venue,

or the city at least, Memphis, Tennessee, sponsored by the American Legion Post, number one,

Monday night, September 20th, 1965.

Son of a bitch.

All right.

Well, I was a few months off.

All right.

We have another one here, Jim.

This one may be a little closer to home.

Let's see if you can get this one.

The opening bounce.

You sound like you're one of the

psychics in the supper club shows and their stooge sends them verbal cues.

This one may be closer to home.

The opening bout: Bobby Fulton filling in for Skip Young versus El Diablo out of Mexico.

The second event:

noted dirtbag and pervert Buck Rock and Roll Zumhoff.

Good lord.

Hawaii versus the missing link

from three question marks.

The third event: event,

a Texas death match, Kerry, special referee.

So it says, just Kerry, not Kerry.

There was a famous match.

I used to joke about it with Scott Cornish, where Mark Lawrence announced the winner of the match, Kevin.

It doesn't really work.

But Texas death match, Kerry, special referee.

Falls don't count.

30-second rest period after fall.

If someone can't answer, a 10 count after rest.

End of match.

Terry Gordy from Atlanta vs.

Killer Khan from Mongolia.

The fourth event, a special challenge bout.

Mike von Eric vs.

Geno Hernandez.

The fifth bout, Kerry von Eric and the Iceman King Parsons vs.

Jake the Snake Roberts and Kelly Kiniski.

The sixth event,

the Battle of Women.

The Battle of Women.

Battle of Women.

Sunshine in Corner.

Stella Mae French from Florida

versus Andrea the Lady Giant, Nicola Roberts Lubbock.

The seventh event.

The American Tag Team Titles.

The Champs, the Fantastics, Tommy Rogers, Bobby Fulton, says Tommy Roberts, Tommy Roberts and Bobby Fulton from the City of Angels, Chillicothe, Ohio,

versus the PYTs,

Norville, Austin, and Cocoa Ware, Memphis.

The eighth event: Jesus Christ, a special revenge challenge match:

Chick Donovan, Santa Monica,

versus Santa Monica versus General Akbar, Egypt.

Well, he's closer to being from Egypt than Chick is from Santa Monica.

Now, that was a special revenge challenge.

The main event, an ultimate revenge match,

Kevin von Erich versus Chris Adams.

Okay.

I narrowed it down with the Fantastics and the PYTs.

I'm going to lean toward 1984.

I mean, this is obviously world-class.

From the number of matches, it's almost got to be

a Star Wars event of some kind, whether Tarrant County Convention Center or Reunion Arena.

At first, I was leaning toward 1983 because some of the names on there, but

some of those guys were

there for several years with

the Fantastics being

on the card and the PYTs especially.

Norvell and Coco started that gimmick in Memphis, and then they came down and did some

shots in Louisiana when the rock and roll had gone back to Tennessee, working with us as babyfaces in 1984.

And the Fantastics got there around about about that time.

So, all things considered, I'm saying this is a major world-class event at a big

building in sometime

between summer and winter of 1984.

Jim, this is the second annual Turkey Day Spectacular at Reunion Arena, November 22nd, 1984.

There you go.

So, just a couple months before you would arrive.

And then they wouldn't need eight or ten matches anymore.

They had us.

You upset you didn't get to see the battle of women?

I've told you this.

Stella May was my drack leaner.

Yeah, you said that.

Was that down this period?

That was like in 85?

It was like three months later.

Well, I moved there in January of 85, and I get the apartment and I go down to the drack leaners.

And she said, oh, I know you.

Oh, I'm, and what was her name?

She used to work for Moolah years ago.

It was, um, she always reminded me of that woman in Bad News Bears who I worked at the uh the little league, like she was always around the little game.

I don't know exactly what her role was.

That's what she always reminded me of.

But she had been a

woman wrestler in the old days and then moved to Dallas and ran into somebody.

They said, Hey, this would be a great fucking deal.

But yeah, she was working the counter at the Drag Cleaners.

All right, we have another one here, Jim.

This one,

the first event, event, one fall, 20-minute time limit.

Bronco Lubich

versus Jack Allen, 229 out of Milwaukee.

A special event, one fall, 30-minute time limit.

Ilio DiPaolo,

spelled E-L-I-O,

versus Earl McCready.

Jesus Christ.

Joe Tiger Tommaso versus Tex McKenzie.

The special one, or the excuse me, the semi-windup, one fall 45-minute time limit.

Tiny Mills versus Sugi Hayamaka

and the main event, One Fall one-hour time limit.

Al

Mr.

Murder Mills versus Ken Kenneth.

Wow.

Okay.

Bronco Lubich was

most famous in his world-class days as the older referee on world-class TV.

But Bronco had been a manager and before that a wrestler.

It was a great guy, saved his money.

Boys you save is worth more than the federal government.

Jack Allen, who the fuck knows?

Elio DiPaolo was the favorite son of Buffalo, New York, and through the Northeast there in the Pedro Martinez promotion.

Cleveland, Buffalo, Rochester was a huge babyface.

Earl McCrady

was starting wrestling in what, the 30s?

He was an old, old-timer.

Tiger Tommaso, Tiger Joe Tommaso later on became one of the assassins in the 60s with Guy Mitchell, right?

They were Bruiser's assassins.

Tex McKenzie, we've talked about many times.

If this was,

if they were already billing him as Tex McKenzie and not Hugh McKenzie or some of the other names that he used as a rookie, this would have to be

1959, 60, 61, thereabouts.

Tiny and Al Mills were the tag team of Murder Incorporated.

And they were both very large men.

And as far as I know, Suji Hayamaka had to be

some Japanese gimmick they gave somebody else because I've never heard that name before.

And Ken Kenneth, I'm struggling as well.

So I have reason to believe that this is

upstate New York or

those environs of the country

in

1959.

The location?

Calgary, Alberta, Canada.

Son of a bitch.

The date?

October 15th, 1954.

54?

Holy shit.

Okay, Bronco Lubich.

I didn't know he was ever underage.

Young Stars open program.

There will be two newcomers on Friday night's wrestling program at Victoria Pavilion.

In addition, a Tex Mackenzie, the lanky Texas cowhand,

who meets Tiger Tommaso,

Montreal will send young Bronco Lubich into the ring against Jack Allen of Milwaukee.

Lubich.

Montreal, by the way, Bronco's like fucking Czechoslovakian or Lithuanian or something, isn't he?

And by the way, it's spelled Lubich.

L-U-B-I-T-C-H.

Oh, my God.

Lubich, at 220 pounds, is rated as an up-and-coming youngster, the same as Alan, who made his first appearance last week.

They meet for one fall in 20 minutes.

And although the bout is a curtain raiser at 8.30 p.m., it is an important one for the two young hopefuls will have their sights set on better spots in the future.

So wow, Tex McKenzie and Bronco started out around the same time and were working the territory together.

All right, but I've completely fucked that up.

I was the wrong side of the fucking continent and five years off.

All right, here's another one.

This one may be.

Oh, I got two from this venue.

I got to pick one.

I'll pick this one.

All right.

Torrid All-Star Thrill of Mania, a thrillerama, excuse me, bouts.

The opening bout, one fall, 20 minutes.

Poncho Pico

versus Gypsy Viviano.

One fall, 20 minutes.

Rick Valenzuela versus Mr.

Yamamoto.

One fall, 20 minutes.

Akio Yashihara

versus Carlos Cruz.

Chuck Carbo vs.

Ray Gordon.

Two out of three falls, 45-minute time limit.

Don Arnold versus Ray Valdez.

And the main event, two out of three falls, one-hour tag team match.

The Dupree Brothers and manager Major Sam Bass

versus Don Bulldog Kent and Louis Martinez.

Okay,

so we are in the Arizona territory.

Why would you say that?

What would cause you to say that?

I said, well, because I've never,

now I briefly remember seeing the name Poncho Pico.

I don't have any idea who Gypsy Zabadai is or Valenzuela or Mr.

Yamamoto.

I don't think that was Tojo

or Carlos Cruz or whatever.

But when you got to Chuck Carbo,

Chuck Carbo was one of the longtime babyfaces

in the old-time Phoenix territory.

Was Ray Gordon guillotine Gordon at one point?

You may be right, but there was no picture, obviously, here.

Actually, Ray Gordon judged the Hercules of the wrestling world in a July issue of Red Hot Magazine Wrestling Review.

See photos and big-time ranking.

Well, Don Arnold was also an Arizona name.

It's just a little corner with a little photo of his face, and it says Poncho Hico is one of the most exciting wrestlers in the U.S.

And if you don't think so, you're punchy.

But the Dupree brothers against Don Kent and Luis Martinez,

Ron Dupree and Chris Colt, as they would be more widely known, the manager, Sam Bass, is that the Tennessee Sam Bass, Fred White,

before his

Tennessee run?

Because he did outlaw shit before Lawler ran into him in

Alabama and Mississippi in 1971.

Was he ever called Major Sandbass?

Not that I'm aware of.

But I have to say, this is, yeah, this is the Phoenix territory, and this would be what, nineteen

sixty-eight, sixty-nine, somewhere in that area.

The venue, Madison Square Garden,

Phoenix, Arizona,

Friday, June 16th,

1967.

Boom!

And also,

there's a big $25 cash win-win-win contest tonight.

Winning ticket must match color.

Official program of the wrestling matches.

Then it says, this is bizarre.

You buy a program, not a chance.

What the fuck is that?

Well, no, no, I'll tell you exactly what that is because depending on state and local laws, raffles or

games of chance or whatever are illegal.

So you are buying the program.

You are not paying money for the chance at winning something.

Oh, wow.

That's secondary and complementary to the thing.

Please notice state laws prohibit the throwing of things into the ring.

Your cooperation is solicited.

It is also against the law for you to strike a wrestler.

Profanity is forbidden.

Sounds like a real party over there in Phoenix.

Well, I'm telling you, no,

they had to fucking specifically mention those things because

the small-town territories were tougher on the heels than the big territories.

All right, I have a program here, but the story is really the story on the cover.

We'll get to this.

The first event:

Bobby Christie versus Gentleman Ed Sharp,

Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.

One fall, 15 minutes.

Also, one fall 15 minutes for the second event.

Tommy Phelps, Dallas, Texas, versus Blackie Mendoza, Juarez, Mexico.

The third event, six-man tag team match.

Nick Roberts, Tampa, Florida, Joe Hamilton, St.

Louis, Missouri, and Bobby Christie,

Woodland Hills, California,

versus Dr.

X O'Toole,

Phoenix, Arizona.

Boy, that's the Irish masked fucking assassin, Dr.

X O'Toole.

We'll see what more we can find out about him in a moment.

Ed Sharp, Hamilton, Ontario, and tough Tony Morelli, Brooklyn, New York.

The first main event.

For the International Heavyweight Championship,

the champion Sonny Myers, St.

Louis, Missouri, versus the challenger Poncho Lopez out of Mexico City.

One hour time limit, two out of three falls.

The second main event, North American Championship.

The champion Iron Mike DiBiase,

Omaha, Nebraska, versus Anton Ripper Leone.

Oh!

Oyster Bay, Long Island, New York.

I added the Long Island.

Oyster Bay, New York.

Two out of three falls, one hour time limit.

Well, goddamn.

Now I think at first when I heard

the Sharp brothers, Ed Sharp, Mike Sharp, Ben Sharp.

I said, was it maybe up the Northeast?

Then Tommy Phelps became someone, I think, and I can't remember who.

Then I hear Nick Roberts.

Go ahead.

No, no, maybe I'm wrong.

I was going to say, was he one of the wrestlers that became a preacher?

Or am I thinking of someone?

No, that's not who I'm thinking of.

Nick Roberts would be most noted as being Nicola Roberts' father and a Texas mainstay wrestler and promoter, but that doesn't guarantee

we're in Texas because there's Joe Hamilton.

who was all over the place

early in his career.

I was right because I I have this in my collection.

The record, that was what I was trying to say.

The wrestling record, I wrestled with God

before he was the nature boy Tommy Phelps after evangelist Tommy Phelps.

Okay.

All right.

I was thinking of the, like the, what, the Gorgeous George rip-off guy.

Oh, that's another guy who's pretty good.

Yeah, he became a preacher, too, right?

Yeah.

And then when he died, people say, oh, the gorgeous, the original Gorgeous George has died.

And he was, his whole thing was built on a lie.

Not just the evangelism, but also the wrestling.

I don't know who the fuck Dr.

X O'Toole is.

Sonny Myers was a

Central State's mainstay, but he at the same time wrestled early in his career all over the place.

But then we go to Mike DiBiase,

who was

well known in Texas again, Ripper Leone, who later on would become an outlaw promoter in California, but at this time he was a wrestler.

For Joe Hamilton

to be on the card, it's got to be early 60s because he main evented

as an 18-year-old in Madison Square Garden with his brother Larry in what 1959

were in West Texas in 1962 or three.

I give up.

Never give up.

I believe in you.

We are in Amarillo, Texas, wrestling at its best.

Thursday, September 29th, 1960.

Ah!

I don't know who Dr.

XOTOL is.

There's a picture of a mass wrestler here, but it doesn't have information about that.

I have to see what else I can find out.

There's a few interesting things here.

This is from apparently originally the Jack Pfeffer collection.

Because

there's a big sticker stuck to the front of it that says managed by Jack Pfeffer.

And it's on the front cover.

Coming next week, October 6th, see in this arena in person, the most incredible wrestling star of all, Tricky Ricky Starr in ballet slippers, the man women rave about.

Don't miss.

The world's greatest box office attraction, the man that sold out Madison Square Garden more than any other wrestler.

The most amazing wrestling talent in the history of modern day wrestling.

An economy-sized giant among Goliaths.

27 years old.

It's a good thing Pfeffer wasn't given over to hyperbole.

27 years old, 205 pounds, 5 feet 10 inches tall.

The amazing Ricky Starr.

Danced with the Midwestern Opera and Ballet Association, the Municipal Opera Company of St.

Louis, two Broadway shows, Annie, Get Your Gun and Paint Your Wagon, the theater and ballet,

Russe

de Monte Carlo.

I don't know what the fuck this is.

And then it's a comma and it ends.

That's Jack Pfeffer hyping us up.

Wait a minute.

No, that's like the Patty Duke show.

You know, Kathy adores the menu at the ballet Russell and Crepe Suits.

Oh, yeah, she's only seen the sides of Girl Can See from Brooklyn Heights.

What What a crazy pair.

Well, apparently, Ricky Starr, the sensational Madison Square Garden attraction,

did all those things.

And then on the back cover.

He was a big attraction at that time, but I think Jack's laid it on a little thick there.

On the back cover is a picture of

it's not the clearest of photos.

It appears to be some sort of tractor or some kind of farm equipment with Happy Humphrey next to it.

Coming Thursday, October 13th, the biggest freak in the world.

Wow.

The human blimp, Happy Humphrey, 750 pounds.

His tremendous weight advantage makes big handicap for all opponents.

And this is written by people who liked him.

And then there's a list here, coming attractions.

Ricky Starr, wrestling number one box office attraction.

The man, women, rave about, boy, Pfeiffer just wrote this shit over and over.

Former ballet star, the most incredible wrestling wrestling star of all, here Thursday, October 6th.

Hans

Blockbuster Schnabel.

Hans.

Hans, excuse me.

Hans.

Hans Blockbuster Schnabel.

Blockbuster Schnabel.

He's never used Blockbuster Schnabel.

265 pound German assassin here, October 6th.

The human blimp, Humphrey.

750 pounds, top novelty attraction in wrestling coming October 13th.

Doesn't that appeal more to the promoter than the fan?

He's the top novelty attraction in wrestling?

Well,

that is.

There have always been a lot of promoters that would use terminology that meant something to them, but that wasn't ever used in real life.

Well, Vince McMahon.

It wasn't ever used in real life, but it meant something to them or whatever.

And they'd try.

And that's, it's all hyperbole whether it's the Bob Lucis or the Jack Pfeffers or whatever.

You kill breed, violence, blood,

that type of thing.

Just

hype.

Well, the world champion is Pat O'Connor, North American champ Iron Mike DiBiase, international champ Sonny Myers, the World Tag Team Champions Nick Roberts and Jodi Hamilton.

Attention wrestling fans.

Our wrestling promoter, Doc Sarpoulos, after serious consideration, has decided to disregard the National Wrestling Alliance advisory ruling that all future main events be one-fall matches.

He is instead going back to his old policy of longstanding.

Therefore, all main events will continue being the best two out of three falls with one-hour time limit or to a finish.

What's that about, baby-facing the promoter to the fans?

Well, because especially in...

Who didn't want to lose their two out of three three falls matches, isn't that interesting?

Well,

in a lot of smaller territories,

like in the Tennessee territory or out in West Texas or down in the Gulf Coast, cards in the 60s, early 70s were three matches, and every match would be two out of three falls.

So you'd get the full-length show, right?

But at the same time you didn't have to pay any more wrestlers.

They just wrestled longer.

And when the NWA went to one-fall matches with the whole thing, especially for the world title with Thes and Rogers and trying to make sure everybody played ball, a lot of the local promoters didn't like that because they had trained their fans two out of three.

So guys could drop falls in a two out of three match, and it wasn't the same thing as getting beat.

And then once the guys started figuring out that,

well,

even if we're going two out of three, he's still beating me once, you know, with a body slam or whatever, then that became a problem and blah, blah, blah.

All right, let's get one more.

I'm looking through, I got a big pile here.

I got to make sure, I got to get a list of what we've already done.

I never want to

bragging about your

size of your pole or pile or whatever you say.

I said pile.

I didn't say pole.

Well, you got that funny northern

weirdo.

What is that, pole?

You zeem.

All right, here we go.

This program, the card.

Opening bout, Matador Mata,

or Mata, I guess I should say, versus Sandar Akbar.

Sandor?

S-A-N-D-O-R.

Jack Daniels

out of Newark

versus Timmy Geohagen.

Finishing out the preliminaries, Bulldog Pletchus versus Ronnie Etchinson.

The semifinal, a tag team encounter.

Nick Kozak and Ken Hollis

versus Carl von Brauner and Al Costello.

And the main event, the main event, two out of three falls, 90-minute time limit.

Kinji Shibuya versus Ernie Ladd.

Ooh, okay.

Sandor Akbar would probably be Skandor Akbar, but it would be that that is not his regular territory.

And since he's in a preliminary, that was when he was wrestling and not when he was a manager.

And he was a bigger card as a manager than as a wrestler.

Don't know who Jack Daniels is, but

Ronnie Etcheson, Bulldog Danny Plechis, and Timothy Geo Hagan indicate that this is

early 60s to mid-60s, Carl von Brauner

and Al Costello were the internationals.

At a period of time, Carl was not teaming with Kurt and Costello.

That's in between

Roy Heffernan and Don Kent as

kangaroo partners.

Kozak is a West Texas and Texas name

from way back.

Hollis, I don't know.

And Shibuya versus Ladd,

unless this was a very odd

happenstance, Shibuya would have been the heel.

Kenji Shibuya was one of the big Japanese heels of the 60s and especially out in California, Northern California.

But Ernie Ladd being the babyface would indicate

that this was when he was still playing football and wrestling and early in his career, which

started in 63.

I'm going to say this is

1967.

And,

God damn it, are you crossing me up?

And we're in Texas again because elsewhere,

it would almost think that it might have to be Northern California, but it doesn't look right for Northern California.

So we're back in Texas somewhere in 1966 or 67.

Possibly Houston?

Well, it's a good way to close out with a nice win for you.

Okay.

The card, Houston, Texas, Friday, January 6, 1967.

Boom!

The Gulf Athletic Club is the promoter, Mrs.

Shirley Carringer, the assistant promoter.

A tribute to a great promoter, a fine friend, Morris Siegel left a living legacy for sports fans.

This was right after Morris Siegel died and right before Paul Bosch took over officially.

He died in the early morning hours, Tuesday, December 27, 1966,

and it ended a gallant battle that had been going on since 1952

when he was stricken with his first heart attack.

Good lord.

50 years of sports promotion.

And then, if you look on the inside, I guess timing-wise, this is interesting here.

Wrestling returns to TV.

Tomorrow night, Channel 39.

Tonight, a giant truck with the emblem of Channel 39, Houston's newest and brightest TV station, will be in place putting portions of the action on tape.

I'm glad they're telling people what to look for if they want to vandalize the fucking vehicle.

Tomorrow night, on Channel 39 at 10 p.m., that tape will be shown to Houston wrestling fans.

And on every Saturday night, at this choice time in the foreseeable future, this program will be a big part of the TV scene.

as it has for almost 17 years.

Channel 39 is a UHF station.

Don't let that confuse you.

If you bought a TV set within the past two and a half years,

your set is then equipped to pick up UHF by law.

Yes,

but that was changed in 19, I think, 64

because the UHF TV stations were pitching a fit because

most of the TV sets made in the 1950s did not have you had to get a converter, which I had one.

We had one here in my mom's old black and white console TV.

You had to get a converter to hook it up to get a UHF channel.

It's not between channel 2 and channel 13 because they were newer on the on the television front.

It may need a slight adjustment in antenna.

If so, call a service man and he can fix it.

Get some aluminum foil and wrap it around your fucking uncle's fist and have him hold his arm in the air.

You know you want to see this.

Hire a serviceman to come over and fix this right now.

If you have an older set, then it is possible to buy a converter that attaches to your present set and will enable you to pick up 39 and any future UHF stations.

The cost is in the $20 to $30 range.

You're wrestling.

And by the way, by the way, we talked about inflation earlier.

This is 1967.

Your converter now would probably cost you about $150 with the rate of inflation from 1967 to get something so you would be able to have channels 13 through 83 on your television, finally.

Your wrestling will be telecasting color.

Live wrestling will continue to be on Friday nights, but on television, it will be shown every Saturday.

Tell your friends, wrestling is back on TV.

What do you know about that?

What do you know about Houston losing TV?

Well, this all happens through periods of time in the long-running territories where

they're in New York around this period of time.

We've talked about it in New York.

Yeah, I was 67 or 68 off the top of my head that they,

you know, when you've got a relationship with a station in the market and you've been on it for a while, and then they get a new program director or station manager, or something changes, and then you have to go searching.

That's, you know, used to be what led to the end of a fucking market, a town for somebody is when they lost television if you couldn't get another station or if it was a significant downgrade.

I truthfully haven't heard of Houston

losing TV for any significant period of time in their history.

Does it say how how long there that they had been out?

Was it a situation where maybe it was a seasonal thing and they had sports or something?

Yeah, I don't know.

I mean, it doesn't say anything here, but, you know, it's not we are going to be next week on a new network.

It's we're back on TV

on the new network.

So we'll see what we're doing.

And that's interesting.

I think that

probably they just.

Something happened.

They might have got a new station manager or a new program director.

or sometimes it was the promotion.

If you could get more from a secondary or a smaller station than you could being a little fish in the big stations pond in a market, you went there.

For years, Live Atlanta Wrestling was on Channel 11 in Atlanta, which was a VHF station, and everybody could get it.

But then

they moved to Channel 17, WTCG, because the

goddamn owner, this wacky guy named Ted Turner, really seemed to like that wrestling.

And we were going to get preempted for network shit and blah, blah, blah.

So those things can happen too.

Well, before we get out of here on the topic of Houston, I just have this in the pile here.

And Ernie Ladd, by the way, was a babyface in those days in Houston, especially because he played for the Houston Oilers at one point in time in the NFL.

I have a special wrestling ticket, pass one, from Houston, the City Auditorium, Friday, September 10th, 1954, 8.30 p.m.

This pass and $1

plus federal tax is good for any ringside.

What does that say?

Box, excuse me, ringside, box, or dress circle seat in allotted sections of the city auditorium.

Here is the card on this ticket, just a few matches.

Tag Team Dynamite,

Ricky Ricky Starr, and Shane.

C-H-E-N-E, that must be Larry Shane.

Oh, leaping Larry Shane versus Adkisson and Vansky.

Okay, that's got to be Jack Adkisson, doesn't it?

55 and Tiger Jack Vansky.

I think so.

A second sensational two out of three fall main event:

Joe Killer Christie versus Gentleman Ed Francis.

And the main event.

I'm going to read this verbatim, folks.

Not my words, theirs.

Valentine is out to make the Jap Shoeshine Boy quit wrestling.

It will be a sizzler.

Johnny Valentine versus Duke Kiyamuka.

Oh, good lord.

A poor Duke, a shoeshine boy.

I know he was humble and lovable, but really?

So what was this was what year have we established that this was oh, this was 1954.

This was September 10th, 1954.

Okay, well, see, you didn't, yeah, I thought you were telling me something in conjunction with the 67 Houston program, and I wasn't paying attention as to what to

fucking think about that.

Jack Atkinson hadn't become Fritz von Erich yet.

I mentioned before I read you the program, his first appearance in the Dallas Sportatorium when he was still being billed as a Southern Methodist University graduate.

But Johnny Valentine had only been in the business about six, seven years at that point.

He was already had been a main eventer forever.

And

Ed Francis would later on run your favorite territory.

He would run, of course, 50th State Big Time Wrestling in Hawaii.

My people, I say hello to all of our friends on the Hawaiian Islands right now.

The great Brian last, Hawaiian Brian loves you.

I think you know that.

I got all the spirit and the soul running through me.

See,

the secret is you talk like Jimmy Snooker.

You don't have to make any sense.

Just talk like that.

No, but that was guess the program.

And that was.

It sure was.

Guess what this program is, Brian?

I don't know.

Over.

Oh.

Folks, we'll be back in a few days with the drive-through and next week with the experience.

SummerSlam is coming up.

Who's going to win all these belts that have to change hands?

We don't know, but we're going to find out and tell you.

That way, you don't even have to bother with the whole thing.

Brian, any closing thoughts for the audience?

We will see you on the drive-thru for lots of action.

We'll talk about dynamite and we'll try to get more questions.

Send questions, send songs.

CorneyDrive-through at gmail.com.

And send me programs just for free.

In and otherwise,

and in otherwise, and otherwise, until we see you again.

Thank you, fuck you, and bye-bye, everybody.