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I just don't have it today.

Hello again, friends!

And you are our friends, and welcome back to another edition of Jim Cornett's Drive-Thru, a fun, fun edition, guaranteed.

I'm your host, the great Brian Last.

We're going to have fun, reviews, questions, topics, and who knows what else with this man, the leader of the Cult of Cornet,

Mr.

Jim Cornet.

Why do I sound like a fucking radio soap opera now?

Suddenly, and here he came, the spinster cornet.

The spinster cornet.

You don't have it today.

The spinster cornet.

As opposed to which days do you have it?

Well, sometimes on Wednesdays, sometimes

Friday, Saturday.

And occasionally another day with a Y in it.

And why can't I, you know, I could have been a spinster.

Had Stace not come along, I could have lived out my days in spinsterism.

And I'd, you know, be feeding cats and things now.

But

there's nothing the matter with spinsterism.

More people ought to be spinsters these days.

You know, early on, and I don't know why this made me think of it, but early on in my career in Showbiz, I was working in an office, and there was an older veteran executive who was there, and a very attractive young woman walked by.

I may have looked her way, and the guy just goes very loudly, oh, you like the spinners!

I was like, Jesus Christ,

what'd you say?

Yeah,

my favorite song was Rubber Bandman.

That's right, That's right.

Like a rubber bandman, get me out of here.

Just sling me out of here now.

You like the spinners?

Well, this is your show.

Yeah, no, it's not.

See, that's the thing here.

There is no responsibility on my.

No, I'll tell you something.

It is.

I'm trying to get in a good mood here today and

go along with the frivolity and the flow of the jocularity of the program with the hilarity that ensues when we engage in all of our various

tomfoolery.

But for one thing, it's cold, wet weather here.

Now, at least we're not

having a real hot spring.

We don't want that.

Thankfully, we're not having that yet because that leads to the thunderstorms and the severe tornado weather.

But it's very wet, it's soggy, and it's still in the 40s outside.

It's rained, it's been raining, it's going to rain again.

It's damp, it's dank, it's cloudy, It's foreboding.

My arthritis is acting up.

And

Brian, I'll have you know that my faith in human nature has been shaken to the core, to the bone.

My faith in people, the goodness of people,

the morality of people.

You found out about Hotchkiss, that he hasn't invented a goddamn thing?

Oh, now, come on.

Now, you.

You finally figured it out, huh?

You take every opportunity to try to slander Hotchkiss, who's done nothing but help you with all the upgrades he's made over here.

Oh, yeah.

And you're jealous of the concepts that he's invented here on the internet, like the email blast and

the sale and all that type of thing.

You're leaving about the seps, just the cons.

Well, but nevertheless, it's not even about Hotchkiss.

Here's what, part of this is Hotchkiss, actually, but it's not even, he wasn't a perpetrator.

He was the

whistleblower.

Because, you know, I'm a celebrity.

This is common knowledge.

I am a celebrity of some description, which is

people in certain circles know who I am, right?

So that qualifies you these days to be a celebrity.

And I get fan mail.

And we've talked about, I've read some many times on the air.

And

I've thanked people for

things they've sent me.

I get fan mail, right?

This has been acknowledged.

But every, I won't even say every so often, generally, you know, once a week or so, you get a card or you get an envelope from somebody.

And usually it's a kid or it's a guy who says he's collecting autographs for his kid, or it's somebody that you know is probably an adult, but you can tell by the.

communication and or the request that they probably spend a lot of time.

They may be the homebound, the sick and the shut-ins.

Will you please sign my picture?

Will you please sign my trading card?

And they put in the obligatory self-address stamped envelope.

And yes, you might say, well, you know, you sell these things, Jim, on your website, which I do.

But the autographs and such, but I try to be kind.

to the fans.

I think back to the old days, if Christine Jarrett had caught me 40 years ago trying to charge one of the fans for an autograph, why she would have given me the grip and then whooped me.

Because you didn't do that stuff back then.

That was too mercenary.

The promoters were the ones that got to steal all the fans' money.

But anyway, well, you know, so ever so you get the

request, we please sign my card, self-addressed stamped envelope.

Every once in a while, if it's like a 8 by 10 or something important to people, they do put in a gratuity,

which in addition to the self-addressed stamped envelope, with things being the way they are these days, that's that's

nice and

appreciated.

But

I noticed a couple of screwy things here recently that made me start to suspectify some people's motives.

Now, one of them

was, because

you can tell sometimes people,

they're not really making an effort.

It looks like they just send this out to whoever the fuck they can get an address on and see what comes back to them.

Because the letter that was typed, not handwritten, but typed, Brian,

began

dear Mr.

Cornette at the top, right?

And in the first line said, Hi, Conan.

It's so great to be writing you.

What?

Yes.

Conan.

The Conan.

The dumb shit forgot his cut and paste was or whatever the fuck was going on with that.

So I was like, yeah, fuck you.

You can't have me.

I should have wrote Conan and sent it back to him, but no, I said, no, fuck you.

But then recently I've noticed it seemed like.

That there was a guy, this one town in New York.

I won't mention this guy's name.

I'm fixed to talk about him for a minute.

I won't mention his name, but Mineola, New York, I'm looking at you, motherfucker.

That's on the island.

Well, wherever it may be, it may be underwater by the time I get finished.

I said, I've seen this guy.

He sent me some couple of trading cards, right, to sign.

And it seemed like I've seen this guy's name before.

I've recognized that.

town or whatever.

Seems like he sent me a few things, right?

I've started thinking of that.

Anyway, point I'm getting to is Hotchkiss saves the day

because I've been going through the vault because I told you about the spring sale at jimcornet.com,

a place you can trust, a fine business reputation with legitimate merchandise.

But for the spring sale, we've been going through to now that.

Again, Hotchkiss has fixed my website up with the inventory feature where it actually works and I don't have to just cut it off when I'm eyeballing it.

I've got three of something laying around or six of something laying around.

I had some boxes from what I used to do FanFest.

We're getting that.

We're trying to do a little spring cleaning and give the people some opportunity to buy some merchandise I haven't had for sale for a while or haven't put up for sale yet.

Some of the vintage magazines, things like that.

And because this is one-of-a-kind stuff or limited stuff, or I found some of the trading cards from the WWF and TNA, but maybe I've only got 10 of one or whatever.

Hotchkiss was doing a little looking up on the inner webs as to what these things might be going for in today's environment.

And this motherfucker in Mineola, New York, that's been sending me cards like two at a time for apparently for a little while.

In a self-addressed stamped envelope, oh, thank you, Jim, for sign big fan of yours, is selling this shit on eBay for hundreds of dollars.

Oh, get the fuck out of here.

Now, nobody's buying it.

Not for hundreds of days.

You know where it says

so-and-so watching or so-and-so bids or whatever.

No,

you can tell people are going to fuck you

for hundreds of dollars,

but he's trying it.

So

I just got a little envelope from him coincidentally the other day, and he's going to get a letter back from me here if he doesn't hear this if he's not listening to the show weekly he's going to be surprised when he gets a letter back from me but can you buy hundreds of dollars on ebay and then he's going to sell the letter on ebay

oh well and then in that case

then i can write him another one and we can continue to play well now that would make him rich wouldn't it All right, the motherfucker is going to get, I'm going to write the letter on flash paper.

And then as soon as he reads it, I'm going to have somebody touch it off and it'll be any, but nevertheless, keep trying to fuck the cult of Cornette or the general public.

Just anybody stupid enough

to pay hundreds of dollars for a trading card with my auto, just generic autograph on it, when it will shortly be available at jimcornet.com for a fraction of that price.

See there?

Yeah, fuck you, Minnieola.

Fuck you, Minnieola.

No, we're going to have some cool stuff that I've found and some old

publicity pictures from the WWF from my from 93, the first photo session I had.

Some of the black and white glossies they used to send out.

I've got a stack of like 50 of those that I've had for 30 years, things like that.

So we're going to have that up in a few weeks and some old magazines back from even before I was born.

such that when people still counted in Roman numerals.

But we're not going to be selling any trading cards for hundreds of dollars

because we don't want to molest the public the way that Minnie Ola does.

Good heavens.

Can you believe that?

Take it so now.

And by the way, he's also officially getting credit because now I don't care about eight to eighty blind, crippled, or crazy, whoever writes me, some poor needy child saying, Jim, can you get me out of this locked basement I'm trapped in?

Otherwise, can you sign my card i'm them too

i ain't i

i ain't signing for anybody what did he say in the letter in the thing he just sent you it's just always a little no hey jim you know love your show or love your podcast or whatever you please sign my card there's some generic no reference like hey you may have noticed my name many many times before

and no he you know apparently just thought that because really he's it's not a a memorable name and he wasn't a memorable person until i found out he was selling shit that I was sending him for hundreds of dollars.

And I thought he was some poor fucking fan with a goddamn OCD and somewhere in dip shit, New York.

And he liked to collect autographs through the mail.

See, I'm trying to be nice to people,

but no more of that now.

Tell your children, tell your children, ladies and gentlemen, that Jim Cornette will no longer.

respond to their fan mail and send them autographs that they otherwise might not be able to afford, or elsewhere they couldn't eat lunch at school that week.

And he's not doing it anymore because of fucking Mineola.

Sound like Ringo.

Peace and love, peace and love.

Just don't send me anything.

I'll never sign it.

But peace and love.

No, peace and love, but fuck Mineola.

But anyway, and just now, and we have another opportunity.

And Levitt Town sucks too.

Oh, that prick,

I'll tell you what, did you

he had the nerve to call the police on me?

I always thought his level was trash.

Let's just rip all of Long Island.

Well, up one side and down the other.

If I knew where any of it else was, I would rip it too.

But I'll take your word for where all the rest of it is.

All right.

But nevertheless, we have an opportunity now for people to join in on fine merchandise of the show with

much less

expense to them and and and much less shame they would go into these black market but you know i even saw a couple of the autograph things of me hotchkiss again showed me this

a couple of them it was not even my autograph there's fake jim cornett autographs out there there's a there's one that i don't know how the it

it was signed in a just let's say in a fashion in a place, in a fashion, in a whatever that I've never done in my life.

Right across your face?

Right Right across my face.

I just saw that on eBay.

I was like, Jim would never do that.

What is that one?

Wow.

Yes.

Yes.

So, folks, again, jimcornet.com

for your autographed merchandise, because then you know it's coming from the horse's ass himself

and/or

Brian, the new show t-shirts that we got going on now where the people can revel in

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Some of his great artwork is currently out there.

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And more than shirts are to come.

This is the worst bit of

an unwieldy way to say.

More than shirts are to come, ladies and gentlemen.

Yes, we may.

We are looking into bikini underwear and spandex support hose.

More than shirts, there will be.

That's what I meant to say.

There will be them there.

And then people will say, low, there they became.

You know, I'm excited about all that.

And again, check it out, ArcadiaNVanguard.com or look for Jim Cornett's drive-through shirts on shop or wherever.

But the real thing I'm excited about is the new Jim Cornette autograph authentication program we're going to set up where people can

have you say that is indeed my autograph.

And or in the other direction, no, that's bullshit.

Have I come to the point in my life, Brian, where I'm so successful that people now have tried to sell fake Jim Cornette autographs?

That's an industry that's blooming.

Makes you wonder what else is out there.

Are there fake Jim Cornette tennis rackets on the collector's market?

Well,

you'd have to have a DNA test done on some of the blood drops.

I did actually

sell one of my legitimate

ring-used tennis rackets here at a fan fest.

It's been years ago now because I haven't done one in five or six years or whatever,

where I could say that was indeed Ricky Morton's blood right there.

And the guy, oh, good, good.

He maybe he was going to clone a new Ricky Morton.

I don't know.

You brought up DNA.

Have you seen the thing in the news that the company 23andMe, which collects DNA or you send them samples and they tell you about your genetic traits or illnesses that you could potentially have that are in the see?

I thought 23andMe was a fucking dating site.

For a chance to date 23-year-olds?

Well, it sounds like it doesn't, you know,

barely legal or 23 and me, that kind of thing.

That's what I thought that was.

I think 23 is plenty legal.

It's not barely legal.

Well, but still, but it's still close enough that you could pretend.

But what do you think of the news that this company is going bankrupt or gone bankrupt?

And now the attorney generals and I believe, or attorneys general, I guess I should say.

in New York and California so far have both said, delete your data.

Delete it now

because all your genetic data is part of the sale unless you delete it

so

but wait a minute hold on hold on now brian you got a lot of explaining to do here i hope you're not going to do any dave splaining to me

but what

what market would there be

What is the data?

There's so many questions.

They look up your DNA,

they can basically tell if you committed any crime.

But if you committed a major crime in the past and then willingly submitted your DNA sample to somebody, then fuck you.

You deserve to go to jail because you're an idiot.

But past,

well, am I right or wrong?

Okay, well, keep going.

Oh, yeah, I committed murder 27 years ago and got scot-free away with it, but boy, I want to see whether I'm the fucking second cousin of Alec Baldwin.

So the

so the point is,

what other market would there be for anybody's DNA?

How could it be harmful except to catch you in a crime if you had a sample of somebody's DNA?

What can go wrong here, Brian, according to the experts is what I'm saying to you.

Well, I have an article here from the Wall Street Journal in the technology section.

23andMe is bankrupt.

Here's what you need to know about your genetic data.

I held a headline there to scare you.

Now, I've never done this kind of thing.

Would you ever consider it the idea of sending in your DNA to some outside company far away who are going to send you back information and put you in a national database or at least their own internal database?

Well, there was that one time that I sent a box of my own shit to, you know, this guy.

No,

I wouldn't even know how to, no, I don't want to do this and don't know how to do this.

And

I'm not, it doesn't sound like that, that potentially was anything I've missed out on here.

23andMe filed for bankruptcy, proposing to try and sell all of its assets.

For consumers who have provided genetic data to the company for testing purposes, here's what to know.

What happened to 23andMe?

The DNA testing company was a hit with consumers who bought its DNA testing kits, but it never managed to turn that success into a viable business model.

Efforts to use DNA to develop pharmaceutical drugs ran into costly delays, and an attempt to move to subscription-based services failed to draw enough interest.

The hell kind of subscription-based services would they have for.

I don't, what are they?

Do you get the DNA of the month club?

Here's another person you may be related to.

Hey,

I know some girls back in Louisiana.

They had a DNA of the nightclub.

What has the company said about its plans?

In an open letter to its customers, 23andMe said there will be no changes to how it stores, manages, and protects customer data.

Here's a quote.

Any buyer of 23andMe will be required to comply with applicable law with respect to the treatment of customer data, the company said.

For the time being, 23andMe plans to continue operations,

and consumers can continue to order test kits, which the company will process.

In court documents, 23andMe said it plans to try and sell all of its assets.

It already received early interest from certain potential buyers, including former chief executive and co-founder Ann

Wochiki,

or something like that.

W-O-J-C-I-C-K-I,

M-I-S-I-S-S-I-P-P-I.

All right, but never.

The company says those offers are not actionable.

Well, but here is my

question that I again pose to you.

Besides being able to tell, to finger you for a potential felony that has been committed in the past and or find out.

who you're related to somehow,

then otherwise, what good?

Can Can somebody take your genetic data and

mix one of you up, clone you, and just make one of you?

Or what is the,

it's not like it's your goddamn, your bank account information.

Well, here's the section, what can happen to my genetic data in a bankruptcy sale?

It can be sold to the highest bidder.

Honey, I'm sorry.

The guy down the street bid more for my sperm, so I'm afraid I'm not going to be able to spare any for you.

It can be sold to the highest bidder, according to legal experts.

The genetic data it accumulated for more than 15 million customers is considered one of 23andMe's core business assets.

I don't know what else they would have as an asset.

They've already begun using customer data to develop drugs with the pharmaceutical company GSK.

Wait a minute.

How did it now?

Hold on here, cowboy.

This went from a genealogy website to we're developing drugs off of your chemical makeup.

Apparently so.

And

a new buyer could seek to make use of it for similar development possibilities.

23andMe has said it found more than 50 drug candidates.

So far,

two have made it to the early stage human trials.

Later this year, data could be released that will show whether one of them works.

Oh, when you said they found 52 have made it i'm like jesus christ they killed 48 of them

but okay so now they're using people's dna that they get on a widespread basis to do the genealogy thing to try to find out more about

how that human beings in general or react to

these various drugs.

I assume not administering them to the actual

people

without their permission.

They know what's going on, but they're just accumulating the information from a lot of people.

So now we're getting into some kind of business.

Yeah, unfortunately, the only business seems to be to sell the data.

And apparently, everyone opts into that when you sign up for whatever you do with them.

You could opt out of it by just deleting all your data.

But that's crazy.

That's scary.

Thank God I never did this shit.

Well,

again, I'm not sure how they're really going to get you unless they can clone you off of this stuff.

And then some night you come in and there you are sitting on the fucking couch playing with the kids and you're like, What the fuck are you doing here?

You're me.

And they are not anymore.

You're you and I'm me and now I'm you.

So fuck you.

See the way that works.

Now's where we need the organ music.

Not the fucking happy organ music.

The dun dun dun dun.

All right, this is going so well so far, but that was business news.

Jim, let's move on to politics.

Let's be real.

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Oh, good lord.

News this week.

I have an article here from WRAL News.

Woo!

North Carolina lawmakers name-check famous pro wrestler Ric Flair in new bill.

A bipartisan bill filed in the North Carolina Senate Monday would earmark $500,000 to study the feasibility of creating a professional wrestling Hall of Fame museum in the state.

They're calling it the Ric Flair Act.

Flair, also known as Nature Boy,

has had a 50-year career in professional wrestling, including bounce at WRAL when the station hosted live wrestling matches in the 70s.

By the way, that's the station in Raleigh, W-R-A-L.

Imagine that, that they used to have the tapings at, yes.

Flair claimed the world title multiple times over the years as he moved between wrestling organizations.

With his trademark shock of blonde hair, his big gold belt, and his signature, woo!

Woo!

You sounded like you hurt your ribs.

Well, Trader had to end it in a sentence.

It's hard when you use it in a sentence sentence as opposed to just, woo!

But when you actually have to like go to another word right after it, it's hard to figure out the truth.

And his signature, woo!

Flair became a local celebrity in North Carolina.

He lived in Charlotte for many years.

Senate Bill 404, the Ric Flair Act, is titled.

Yeah, hold on here.

This is what I was laughing about because listen, this is why it's named the Ric Flair Act.

An act

to remember iconic combatants through fostering learning awareness and interest in wrestling.

R-A-S-S-L-I-N.

They got all the way to the end and they said we can't make it fucking fit unless we do that.

It directs $500,000.

His name should have been Flow.

It directs $500,000.

It directs $500,000 to the North Carolina Department of

Natural and Cultural Resources to study the matter.

The agency would be expected to deliver a report to state lawmakers by the summer of 2026.

God damn it.

It's going to have a million dollars and a year and a half.

in a Republican state, by the way, for the government to figure out whether it'd be worth their effort and time and money to have a pro wrestling Hall of Fame museum in North Carolina before they even

spend any money on actually having it.

Well, Senator, state senator, I believe, Jay Chaudhry, if I'm saying that correctly,

said the bill celebrates professional wrestling's cultural and historic ties to North Carolina.

He said he grew up watching pro wrestling on WRAL in Raleigh.

Our shared cultural heritage in this state is college basketball, NASCAR, and professional wrestling, Chaudhry told WRAL.

Professional wrestling still hasn't gotten the recognition it deserves.

At least two other professional wrestling museums are in operation in Iowa and New York.

Well, that's behind the times, isn't it?

Are they talking about the one that went from New York to Texas and then was flooded out and dismembered?

Well, that was a different one in Albany, right?

Is it Albany?

I think it's Albany.

Yeah, yeah, but the other one, yeah, the other one's still up there.

But nevertheless,

first of all,

$500,000 in a year and a half to try to figure out whether or not this would be a good idea.

If you sent one wrestling promotion.

Woo!

sounds like a plan.

Well, no, I'm not even, I'm not even knocking

Flair with this.

This is out of his hands.

He, you know,

he just served as the anagram for this, but there was the Ric Flair North Carolina lottery ticket when his picture was on the North Carolina lottery tickets they were selling.

This is years ago.

And all the boys, the joke was

every Ric Flair lottery ticket is guaranteed to win you $5,000,

but they cost $10,000 each.

Yeah,

this isn't the first Ric Flair act in the news in the last few years.

All right, now, come on now.

My problem is you and the Egyptian.

Here comes the Egyptian.

God damn it, what I'm trying to say to you is,

if you sent one wrestling promoter around the state in a car for about two weeks, he'd be able to figure out if there was a building that anybody could rent a space in, in a place that anybody would go to with that would be interested in

an exhibit or some type of museum about pro wrestling, its history in the Carolinas.

And

that would be probably in conjunction with some kind of existing business, whether it be

a fucking,

you know, sort of on the for the people who know the Quaker Steak and Lube, where they're into the bike nights and they got motorcycles and motorsports cars hung upside down from the ceiling and whatever.

Some sports bar, whatever, I don't know.

But to have a museum

devoted to all of professional wrestling,

you'd really have to get,

as they have, and also Charlotte's a bigger city than

the other places that are involved, but you'd have to get, you know,

the local arena, I think it is in

New York, is involved.

And

the

Iowa,

somehow the town council or local

civic affairs are involved because of wrestling in the heartland and the Frank Gotch legend and blah, blah, blah.

But I don't see any place in the Carolinas where, unless it was a place you could also go and eat and drink, or it's part of another

attraction,

where a wrestling Hall of Fame would be a money-making proposition.

Crockett didn't win.

Well, they haven't said anything about it being a for-profit.

That hasn't been said.

Well, but

God, even to just not spend all the money that it would cost to run it on something like that,

I don't see.

And,

you know, again, because it would have to be a Carolina-centric wrestling hall of fame, because most of the people there, again, unless they moved from New York when they were small children.

Who's Bruno San Martino?

When you get back into the territories,

you know, you're going to have that where

to maybe a large segment of today's audience, or even people who didn't grow up in that part of the country, they're like, who is this?

But for the people in that part of the country, if you incorporate anybody else, they're like, well, who the fuck is that?

So,

you know, when Vern Gagne walked out in the Mid-South Coliseum on that first show that Jarrett went with the AWA in 1978, people are are like, what the fuck?

It's like, I roll even, because he hadn't been there in 25 fucking years.

So, but nevertheless, it'd be tough because the other thing, too, like you said, it'd be one thing if it was a Carolina Centric Hall of Fame, but even that,

you know, at a certain point, there, you know, with any of these states, if anyone says this is going to be a, you know, Montana Hall of Fame, a California Hall of Fame, if it's just about local wrestling, there's a point where it ends.

And then you're just talking about wrestlers who were born here, not anyone who had a career here, really.

And that's the big difference.

You kind of have to make it a national one.

And if you're going to start one of it from scratch, what are you going to display?

Forget about finding a building and where, which are major problems.

But they got 500 grand.

So, hey, drinks around the house.

But what are you going to fill it up with?

Well, again, that's why, because in the Carolinas, it's such a unique place.

That's why the fan fests have done so well well for so long.

And,

you know,

their territory kind of morphed into one of the national companies.

It was still the

Crockett brand, kind of slash NWA brand, slash

Southern wrestling kind of brand.

Ric Flair was still there.

They had a lineage to

that major,

you know, territorial promotion that was stronger than anybody else's except for Vince's.

And even then, you know, now they've been out of business 23 years.

So,

God, no, 24 now.

So there's a cutoff age at that.

And then, you know, some of those guys, including Flair, who's still recognized today, they went on to the national TV.

So in the Carolinas, you can get away with something like that.

And

again, I hate to say it.

People always say I take up for it in Memphis, not even in the other towns.

Nashville, I think the ship has sailed.

Louisville, you know, maybe a curiosity, a blurb in the paper every so often.

Memphis still remembers its wrestling history.

And

he, you know, as we've seen now, it's getting,

you know, shorter.

Dallas, the von Eric still mean a bit, but it's not hysteria like it used to be.

So

you're right.

There's there's one audience that's kind of aging out from having large numbers, and then it becomes a national thing where there's no particular local attraction.

That's the problem with having a wrestling Hall of Fame museum, who's in it, where it goes,

you know,

whether it's for-profit or not, just like some of the wrestling promotions, whether it's for-profit or not.

If there was a Carolinas one, think of how many people in what would need to be kind of the first class wouldn't be there because they were dead.

No Ole Anderson, no Gene Anderson, no Johnny Weaver, no George Becker, no assassins.

That's just no sweet Hansen, no Rip Hawk, no Johnny Valentine.

Flair's there, no blackjack Mulligan.

Ken Patera's there.

There's a man with a bucket following him.

There's a man with a bucket over there telling me it's time to beware.

But yeah, and that's the thing is that

if you said Weaver and Becker

maybe 20 years ago to almost anybody except people in the Carolinas, they'd have been,

what?

And now it, you know, that

point has been reached, but all but the most dedicated of the wrestling fans in the Carolinas, Weaver and Becker.

You got Steamboat, you got Flair, you got Greg Valentine.

You know, No Wahoo.

I mean, there's a cutoff.

There's like a firm cutoff.

And that's the thing.

It's hard hard to do a state-by-state one.

So everything's going to be a national one where you'll have like, you know, going in this year, the Andersons,

Bill Ward,

and, you know, Earl Hebner, the Hebners,

and some guy from NXT you've never heard of.

And we're going to celebrate the women with.

one of those noted women wrestlers from the Carolinas.

You know, that's what it'll become.

Well, I'm glad to see you're so optimistic.

Right?

I mean, that's what it always becomes.

Every one of these things that pops up, all of a sudden it becomes just, you know, let's give everyone an award.

Anyone who shows up, get it.

Well, it's like the Mike Lano thing.

Mike Lano used to just show up and hand out plaques.

Now the Halls of Fame do it.

Show up, get a plaque.

Let us give you a plaque.

You know, did you ever think it was funny that Lano had such an obsession with plaque in both of his interests?

That's funny.

That's a deep one.

But no, but see, you're already, this horse is not going to leave the barn, cowboy.

You're already talking about whether it's going to go or not.

And no, they've spent 500, appropriated $500,000 that they will spend somehow to determine that, no, we can't fucking do this.

Well, let's see, though, because you know what they'll probably do?

They'll probably experiment or experiment.

There will be no experimentation.

They'll probably see what is being done in Iowa at the Thez, Tragos, Tragos, whatever the fuck it is.

At the Thez Hall of Fame.

They'll see what's going on in Albany.

Remember, the one in Albany now is part of an arena.

Well, that's right.

That's what I remembered earlier.

It used to be the Albany Civic Center, and now I think it's the,

is it the MVP arena?

Did MVP buy a controlling interest in that?

It may be the MVP arena, but my point is that kind of thing where maybe, you know, we'll see.

It's the Carolinas.

Maybe they could find a place to put it that's already there.

Maybe they could find a sponsor.

I'm not saying you know successful, but I'm saying I'm not giving up on the idea they're going to do this and not do something.

You know what?

The first exit on I-95 from the North Carolina state line over into South Carolina, right next to south of the border, they can put in the Wrestling Hall of Fame.

And then the kids can go and ride the plaster donkeys and get the sombreros and eat the Mexican food that costs three times as much as anything else that you'll ever find.

And then go across the street and see the Wrestling Hall of Fame.

you got a slaughter and cornodle come out and march around with the fans

slaughter and cornodal

slaughter and on the border uh or south of the border fucking restaurant is probably

goes hand in hand i have an interview somewhere from like 83 with slater and orton in mid-atlantic and bill ward brings him in and by that point he's an old man you know he used to host a show he before bob cotton he was hosting the show and he goes come on in here right now dick Slater, Dory Funk Jr.

And Slater starts doing his promo.

And then at the very end, Orton, who's been standing in the back with his sunglasses on, his cowboy hat on, just his arms crossed, he goes, Bill Ward, do I look asleep?

No, sir.

Don't call me Dory Funk Jr.

Well, we'll see if that video is on a loop at the Wrestling Hall of Fame under the Ric Flair Act.

You know,

was

was there ever any money put on if there was a Ric Flair Act, that it would be about a wrestling Hall of Fame?

Well, you know, Jim, on the topic of Bruno San Martino, famously he wore a wig, or several, went through several phases.

There was Mop Top Bruno.

There was Lou Alcyndor Bruno.

There were various Brunos.

And then eventually he embraced his natural receding hairline, but it looked good.

It actually looked good and classy on him

but obviously based on his mustache later in life and the color of it he may have wanted to keep the dark hair at least imagine if bruno san martino had had simpler hair color to help him feel confident through his matches it would have been simpler But back then in the days, in the days of yore,

you talk about black hair and gray hair, they were seeing black and white.

So there was only one or the other.

You couldn't even go in between there.

It was all more difficult back in those days.

And you know, Bruno was not the only one who was challenged.

He wore

a couple of those wig devices.

One time, he looked like he was wearing a couple of them at the same time.

Wahoo McDaniel, I've mentioned this.

Remember the can of black spray hair?

There was a can of black spray that you could get at this.

This is in the late 80s, early 90s.

And Wahoo's hair was jet black, but he had a big old bald spot up on the crown of his head.

And he would comb his hair over.

And he would, theoretically, you were supposed to spray this stuff on the hair that you may have, and it would make that hair look thicker and darker.

But he would spray it on his bald spot like a can of spray paint.

And he goes out in the hot buildings and and he's got a chin lock on the guy and he's sweating and he's dripping black paint down on his opponent's face because his head is running

see it was it was it was primitive back in those days brian is what i'm trying to say but no longer no longer because of our friends at simpler hair color our friends at simpler hair color what do you this is an echo in here what i thought i just said i'm reiterating they are our friends you're reinforcing it that they are indeed our friends

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But there's still hope for a lot of people out there who are just starting to get gray or people who've been gray for a while, but let's face it, nobody knows who the fuck you are.

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There are plenty of people with happy lives who just want to enjoy the color of their hair hair the way they want it to be.

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well, you don't take it off because it's on there, but you know what I'm saying.

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It's not like when you go to the store and you buy this slop where it's like turning a bucket of paint over your head, and you've, you got to repaint the entire bathroom just to change your hair color.

What I'm thinking about doing, honestly,

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Then I'm going to grow a beard.

No.

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Public, that is.

Again, first of all, I don't know where you're going going to be walking around the public and moving your chest hair, but no, this is not going to happen.

Second of all, well,

when it gets long in the wintertime, because I want to be warmer, it sticks out through the looking buttons in my chest.

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Let's focus on that word, hair, as in the top hair.

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Well, Jim, let's now move from the beauty section of the show to international affairs.

affairs.

And we're going to talk about the WWE's seemingly never-ending tour of Europe.

Real quick, though, make mention here, in terms of international things, international wrestling historian Dave Cameron passed away as we are recording.

So I just want to say something here to recognize that because, you know, I just posted photos of him, and he wasn't a young man, at George Hackenschmidt's house.

Yeah.

In 1962, he is someone who a lot of the stuff we know from Australia, New Zealand, and quite frankly, around the world is because of the research he did in the live.

I mean, not even just research, things he experienced live.

Yeah, and of course, we had joked here on the program a while back that obviously Harley Cameron was the illegitimate daughter of Dave Cameron somehow and possibly Harley Race.

But

No, you saw that name popping up everywhere on anything related to international bulletins from that part of the world in any of the wrestling magazines from the 60s on.

And like you said, he's in a ton of the pictures in your files and actually visited George Hackenschmidt at his home.

And how old was Dave Cameron?

Do you have that information from?

You know what?

I could see what Steve Ogilvie posted, but I don't know if.

Well, he had to be, as you said, he wasn't like a toddler in the early 60s.

So,

you know, he had been doing this and studying the business and, you know, involved in trying to report on the business for a long time and all of his adult life.

I'm not seeing an age anywhere.

Maybe they don't have numbers that high.

Maybe it was.

Cowboy Bob Ellis, I heard, just turned like 96, right?

That's crazy.

That's you never even hear of him.

That's what he looked like in the 70s, also.

And he hadn't been, has anybody seen a picture of what he looks like in the last 40 years?

Not really.

Maybe there's a reason for that, too.

Talking about big stars that lost their hair early.

Cowboy Bob Ellis.

And you know what?

And also, he was for years such a big drawing babyface, but he always got juice.

He was always had the dead man walk he'd do through the crowd when he was bleeding and then he'd make his comeback and he'd go crazy.

But his head looked horrible by the mid-70s when he was working for Bruiser.

And from what I was told, he had the,

I don't know what they call it, the process where he had like his head sanded down with all the gig marks and the scars and everything

and had his forehead smoothed over and then got booked in Puerto Rico.

That was like the last full-time run he had in his fucking career was in Puerto Rico after he got his gig marks fucking derma brazed or whatever.

So it's funny for those of us who have followed the wrestling history.

But anyway, and so, and yes, we're sorry that Dave Cameron has passed away, but we're glad Bob Ellis is still around.

91 years old, Dave Cameron.

There you go.

So he was,

Bob is still in the lead.

Mark Lewin, I guess, on his trail right behind him, living a better life, though.

Mark Lewin is married like a princess, isn't he?

At some island?

What?

Are you what now?

Isn't Mark Lewin married to a princess

like at some island that he was and living on a living on an island in the Pacific Rim?

You know, now that you mention it, I haven't heard this, but now that you say it,

it's not that preposterous considering who's involved.

Is this the only kind of business in the world where you can say, well, I can believe that when say, yeah, I guess married a princess and living on a South Sea island or whatever?

I don't know where to Google this or look this up, but I swear to God, I've heard it.

And it wasn't just

Mark Lewin, Island Princess.

Mark Lewin.

Kevin Sullivan kept up with.

Remember, we were talking about international tours on

one of the recent programs, maybe the last one we did.

And that, you know, when Nigeria had

American tours that nobody ever knew about and things like that.

Mark Lewin was on a lot of that stuff because Kevin Sullivan was, as I said, kept up with Steve Ricard, the promoter over in new zealand they found all kinds of those things

the pacific rem brother again i'm trying to get more information but apparently he's married to a woman named princess linda who's a singaporean princess oh wait a minute now do they have princesses princess's eye what is the princesses or princess eye what's the plural do they have those in singapore I don't know.

I don't know too much about the

self-proclaimed princess of Singapore because it is the wrestling business.

I don't think she was in the business, but I don't know.

We'll see what we hear from the historians out there.

Unfortunately, Dave Cameron.

Dave, they just, where's Dave going to be when we need him on this breaking story?

From the Pacific Islands.

That's right.

Yes.

Goddamn, no wonder we can't find out.

Without Dave, we're going to be in the dark about all this.

But there it is.

We loved you, Dave.

Hell yeah.

But like you said, a lot of this stuff that came out of that part of the world got out because of Dave Cameron.

I have tons of his correspondence in the wrestling news files and, you know, specifically the Flair Harley race stuff in 84, the title changes.

You know, I got the programs here because of him.

He sent them out to people, the program, the poster, everything.

So he was on that stuff and treated it very seriously.

Yeah, and

nobody in this country may have known or might not have found out at least very as quickly, if not for Dave, the Stooge camera.

No, you see now you can't end this like one of our spots.

You can't stop going up the roof

at the end.

He was a great guy.

We loved him, but yeah, he stooged off flare and race.

If Harley ever got a hold of him,

no, he was a wonderful guy and upholding the honor of the industry.

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Well, Jim, let's move across the Atlas and let's go to Europe.

where the WWE, as we said before, their endless tour of Europe.

And this time they had SmackDown and I know you watched it and I'm sure I did.

I just don't remember.

Where were they?

And what was it?

You know, for what going to Europe, when I was a teenager, one of my very early girlfriends used that as

a synonym for throwing up.

Oh, I got so sick and I went to Europe because of the noise.

And I'm not trying to insult our European fans.

It just tickled me at the moment.

But they were in

Bologna, Italy.

bologna italy

and

this time it was a big crowd but it it was a come down

uh on monday when they just got back in the primary english speaking world because over in scotland they they've had a show or two so they're not quite as just overall thrilled to be there.

But Italy, they had the Italian flags.

They were doing the fucking singing

and the cheering and the chanting and the whole nine yards.

What language do they speak over there in Italy?

Italian.

Oh, that's convenient.

No, I asked you that the other day about Belgium.

I said, what do they speak there, Belgium-ish?

And then people got mad.

They're like, well, the United States isn't the only country in the world, you know,

but at least I know how to speak their language mostly.

Anyway, the point is, Brian.

What is that point?

They're still still over there.

They're not coming back over there.

Over there.

Say a prayer to beware because the Yanks are coming.

Will they not let our boys come back, Brian?

You think they're getting tired of it by now?

They're not doing the

Will Osprey grind gimmick where they fly back and forth in between TVs, right?

They're fucking there.

They've been there for a couple of weeks.

They're going to be there for more.

They're going to London.

Yeah, they had something on the screen that had the upcoming schedule, and it was like, we're going to be here on Monday, and then we're going to be here Tuesday, and here Thursday.

It was like all these different days, and one of them was a taping.

So the rest were all just house shows, very, very lucrative house shows.

But they don't work that schedule here.

They go over there and they're working every single night.

Yes, suddenly they're they went from this ain't bad.

We go out on the weekends, whatever.

Now they're in foreign countries every day for like fucking four weeks.

But nevertheless, I don't know how do you can you take that much clean underwear?

Some of these people are going commando

or buying new underwear.

Well, you can't know this the sizes are different over in the other countries, in the foreign lands.

You can't, you don't know what you're getting.

See, there couldn't, there might not be room for the boys.

You'd sterilize yourself or something.

Or something.

Anyway, how much longer is this show three hours?

I'm talking about SmackDown now.

I wasn't sure, actually.

I don't know, but I had the same thought.

It's

not even that it's all talk and people think, oh, you mean interviews?

It's that it's all talk.

The interviews are fine with the stars.

The matches, as we've joked, get in the way.

But now

it's talking about the talking that's coming up after this talking and it's spots and it's commercials.

And we're selling you this game and we're pitching you that product.

And oh, by the way, here's aerial shots of everywhere we're going to be for the next six months at all these towns.

It's a travelogue.

They ought to be on the travel channel.

I mean, in Knoxville, to get a fucking aerial shot of Knoxville for the Night of Legends open, I think we had to

Fox 43 didn't even have a news show at that point.

We had to go to the Chamber of Commerce or some shit.

They don't even just show the building they're in.

Sometimes they show, they've caught me a few times where they begin the show.

I'm like, wow, look at that building.

And they're like, Las Vegas.

I'm like, oh, shit, they're in Vegas.

We're going to be there in a month.

Like, why are they starting the show showing that?

Then they go to the real building they're in.

And then look at the country we're going to be in next month.

And here's a pyramid for you.

And somebody's paying them to show it.

Here, will you please show my pyramid on TV?

Sure.

and here's a pyramid and there's a half million dollars it's just but it takes for and but then you've got to encounter the entrances with the singing and the cheering and the chanting and the stalling and the milking and the milking and the stalling and the slowly i turned step by step inch by inch i creeped up on the microphone

you know and then it it's really crazy when you talk about some of the advertising And, you know, Riyadh obviously was advertised on the Mat and that's our commercial and just the things they do in every country they go to.

And even Tony with All In in Texas, so much of wrestling right now is based around tourism.

It's just based around local tourism.

Boy, and they've made world tourists of the boys now.

They can't.

I bet somebody just wants to run Baton Rouge every once in a while.

But anyway, on SmackDown, we'll get to the main part of it because

they were doing a wonderful show for the people in Bologna, Italy,

where they don't ever get to see these people in person, but and they were so happy.

And these people are having the time of their life.

But I'm like, God damn, at some point,

let them get to the fucking point.

We know you can sing the songs.

I don't know what some of the chants were because they were in Italian.

And all the people over there know the tunes, Brian.

It's from the soccer, I understand.

They know the tunes.

They know the keys of the chant, the singing,

the chant singing, the sing-chanting.

How would you?

Well, nevertheless,

they had Orton and Owens do a promo.

It was like a personal appearance in tights.

Orton just has to go out.

The fans are lit.

He doesn't even have to speak.

Owens comes out and gives the bullshit heel apology.

I was wrong for attacking you.

Cody deserved it.

Sammy deserved it, but you didn't deserve it.

So

we should forgive each other and go for the tag team title at WrestleMania.

So that Orton could say, Well, I should kick your ass.

So take your apology and shove it up your ass.

And now you're just bitch Owens bitch instead of fight Owens fight.

And he does a promo at Owens and then

the end.

And

people loved it.

And then they had a tag team match with

Priest and Jimmy Uso against Nakamura and Drew McIntyre.

And Drew, again, is, I think, top five in the business right now.

I just love everything he does.

I didn't love this, but he was in it.

I love him.

But, you know, Priest and Jimmy won.

And then Drew got on Priest.

He got some heat on him.

People loved it.

It's the standard stuff.

The point I'm making is that they didn't have to do anything earth-shaking for this crowd.

And they're getting paid a fee for the television.

And

it's done well enough that they can just fill the time up and they're hot enough that.

The viewers aren't going to riot.

So this is just

a basic old show, right?

Not enough spikes.

Too many excited fans.

You got to tone that down.

You got to tell them that long-term boogie.

Brown Strongman and Jacob Fatu.

We saw that again.

And

they DQ'd him.

There's tension now, and there's problems between Solo and Jacob.

And I love that story.

We'll see something there.

And Tommy Tonga, poor thing, is caught in the middle.

But Brown is not

very good.

And

yeah.

But

we had Piper and Zelina.

We had Liv.

Did you watch you?

I know you don't remember that the show actually aired, but Liv Morgan versus Jade Cargill.

Oh, I did watch this because I'm a big fan of Liv Morgan and I'm intrigued by Jade to this day.

Well, were you, I was intrigued as you were.

Were you intrigued as to see, okay,

what's she looking like these days?

Has there been a noticeable improvement?

And

I don't know whether I can still tell because they set it up

step by step, inch by inch.

She can be led, she can be hidden.

They set it up where she did basic stuff.

Liv

gravitated around Jade's orbit.

And

it wasn't until the end she made a simple comeback and did two nip-ups.

I think the nip-up is her

go-to thing like Jacob Fatu.

I'll just headbutt somebody if I don't have anything else to do.

But she kind of got sidetracked.

It appeared for a second and/or lost.

But then

Liv was selling, and Naomi appeared and distracted

Jade so that Liv could go for her finish.

But Jade caught her and gave her a backbreaker.

And then Naomi hit Jade with the belt, which, of course, the referee didn't see.

And Liv hit her finish one, two, three.

And then they beat her up some more.

That's the first time Jade's been pinned.

Well, yes.

And that's the thing:

I couldn't tell whether she's better or whether she's rusty or what they did a good job of hiding it,

but at the same time, I still don't know because she still doesn't seem like she's comfortable in between doing the things that they have worked out when they worked out their floor routine.

So we'll see.

I've become a really big Liv Morgan fan.

She does all the little things I like for a wrestler to do.

And I know she's smaller, so sometimes you can.

Wait a minute.

Now we could.

As a wrestler, will you stop it, Mr.

Perford?

We could clip that she does all the little things I like.

Well,

no,

she's grown on me, too.

She's really good.

She's attached herself to me.

She's really good.

There was a thing the other day.

Was it Raw?

Where she was in the middle of a beatdown.

Yeah, it was Raw.

She was in the middle of a beatdown and the music starts playing.

Usually the heels nowadays stop what what they're doing.

They'll wait for the person to come and enter.

She looked up for a second and then she kept throwing her punches.

Went right back to the, get more punches in.

Well, yeah, there's, you know, I've got some room.

And

again, I'm not saying that I'm particularly in, oh, look at the artistry of her matches, but as a, as a personality, as a character, as the kids say, as a gimmick.

as what she's doing with it and how she's integrated with the the story with her and dominic and rhea and the whole nine.

Yeah, I like what's going on.

She's a personality.

I will admit to that.

Is there an issue with the fact that even if you look past WWE, you look to AEW,

whatever it is now, four years of Jade Cargill, maybe it's a little less,

but you don't really see much improvement.

Not that they're like, well, you don't see regression, but you don't see,

doesn't seem like there's any growth.

Well, that's the thing I was looking for in that I didn't expect any growth in AEW because not only was there no place.

Yeah, she said, oh my God, the difference in training is insane, right?

But now that she's been there a while, and I know she's been off, but what's she been doing?

Is she working out to get back to that point?

Is she training in developmental and secret in a dark room?

What, you know,

let's start seeming more natural in your environment than what you seem to feel like or seem like,

but nevertheless,

moving on.

Are the street prophets again

baby faces?

Didn't they just switch heel?

We don't really care.

And I know people are going to say, well, if you'd watch, you'd know.

Well, I don't care enough to watch, but I'm just confused now.

I'll get over it whether I find out or not.

But didn't they just?

How could you say you do do reviews if you don't watch it?

You're a hypocrite.

Because I'm not saying I'm doing a review of the Street Profits against the Lucha Heels.

And

Purely Deadly came out there, too,

and did stuff.

And they wonder why the tag team division is bleh.

But the Street Profits are the new tag team champions.

And according to the fans, you deserve it.

But then finally, we got to, okay, this is a three-hour show, folks.

That's what I'm saying.

We got to the

meat of the matter, the part that people were waiting for

because we wanted to find out what was going on with Roman Reigns and CM Punk

and

our friend Seth Franklin Rollins.

And the tease was at first they go to the back, the parking lot or the dock or whatever, and a black limousine pulls up.

And

it's like a black soccer van limousine, I guess.

They've got over there that the door doesn't open like a SUV, it's a slide open like the side of a van, right?

You know what I'm talking about, Brian.

Yeah.

So

when the door slides open, you see a couple of hands reach out and grab the frame to pull themselves out.

And suddenly,

out emerges Paul Heyman in a black suit.

So it looked like a minivan giving birth to a bowling ball.

And he struggled,

he struggled out of the thing and then straightened himself as best he could.

And

he's walking in.

That's the tease for the main event.

Did you see that scene?

Am I lying with what I'm saying?

That scene?

I saw the scene, yes.

It was one of Heyman's greatest roles.

Yes, playing the bowling ball.

The

and he cleaned the placenta off himself from his mother minivan

so they go to the

the segment here there comes roman and paul out to the ring and there's the otc otc chance and

some italian chance or and more otc

And

you know, and Roman, he's starting out as a beneficent tribal chief, a benevolent tribal chief.

He's a your OTC loves you.

So I'm going to tell you what's on my mind.

And his promo is he still, he believes he's in the right.

At the Royal Rumble, CM Punk screwed me.

So

last week I screwed CM Punk.

And at the Royal Rumble, Seth Rollins tried to kill me.

So I tried to kill Seth Rollins.

And I'm going to be here for the next 15 or 20 minutes.

If anybody wants to come out here and confront me, just let me know.

And son of a bitch, wouldn't you know who won the pony?

Immediately, Seth Rollins is mute.

This is, they are so over, and this is working

with all these people.

They don't even have to try.

Here, basically, here's what I did, and here's why I did it.

And if anybody has a problem with me, come on out of here.

Okay, here we go.

And Seth comes out, and there's the whole building is singing at the top of their lungs.

Whoa.

Well, I see, and they can't all sing like me, so you can imagine what theirs sounds like.

And Seth gets in the ring, and there's more singing.

Whoa!

And Seth.

I apologize for the audio, ladies and gentlemen.

Well, you know, now that I've got mine fixed up, you ought to get Hotchkiss.

Get him a plane ticket.

He'll fly up there and fix yours too.

So, Seth says, Roman, you messed up here.

You should have let me finish CM Punk.

You should have let me get rid of him once and for all.

But it's always been about you and me, says Seth and Roman, that is the pronouns, pal.

And it's time that we added

another chapter.

And suddenly,

hey, Luck Mussolini

in Italy.

There he comes.

They're singing his song.

Did you do a record scratch?

Yes.

And here comes Punk.

Another chance.

CM Punk.

See him punk.

I wish they'd have got Howie the Mailroom Guy on TV back in the day so we could see if we get a Howie the mailroom guy, Howie the Mailroom guy.

But no,

he's over and he gets in the ring.

And

he tells both of them, neither one of you have ever beaten me by yourself without the other one helping you.

And I didn't screw Roman Reigns.

I didn't screw you, but

He reminds everybody that Paul Heyman owes him a favor.

And then he says, but Paul, I want to thank you for delivering the tribal chief on a silver platter.

And right as Roman looks around at Paul like, you did what?

Punk jumps off the turnbuckles and nails Roman with the microphone from behind.

It gets on him.

And then Seth is confused for a second, like,

and then he, I, he jumps on Punk.

And he gets on Punk.

And then Roman says, wait a goddang doll, doll, darn minute.

And he grabs somebody, and then my DVR froze.

But I understand from reading about it that for the next 15 seconds or so, they all just

got in an altercation with each other.

And that's obviously headed toward WrestleMania.

But that was three hours of SmackDown.

I mean, at least AEW is impaling people for us and giving us fucking little Easter eggs of find the production error and see where the fake wall is, shit like that.

But SmackDown's just giving us a travel log on fucking, where's next?

Tukum Carry, New Mexico?

You know, it's interesting, too, with the Rollins, Punk, Roman stuff.

All three guys have...

legitimate stories with the other ones.

Rollins and Roman, of course, goes way back, but they all came in to help punk.

So that ties into it.

Doing it as a three-way, is that to you better than

over time doing each one of the three independently?

Well, they're going to, or they should,

do each of those anyway.

But for WrestleMania and because everybody expects it now, and it's got to be something extra, and you got to, you know.

I think that's why they're doing a three-way, but you can't tell me that Punk versus Roman or Roman versus Seth or is not a pay-per-view match at some point or another that they need to do.

Well, they don't need to do anything, but boy, howdy,

in any other era, if you had a match that attractive, you would do everything you could to do it.

So, I think they got to do them eventually, but WrestleMania is upon us, so they're dropping the cow, as Dan Aykroyd would say.

All right.

Well,

on the topic of that was SmackDown, by the way, but yeah, it was.

On the topic of

Dan Aykroyd, I'm trying to think of something that would tie in the fucking Dan Aykroyd.

Of course,

he was the child of the Miss Daisy character in driving Miss Daisy.

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This may not be a great example.

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Oh, just overworked.

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Jim, help me out because this isn't my show.

God's sake.

Well, I'll tell you, you've made me want to have a drink.

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As we move on, before we get to Raw, let's have a little break in the action.

Let me grab this back here.

I have a book in my hand.

Well, don't threaten me.

The book, son of a bitch.

I've got a shoe over here, and I'm in reach of a bottle.

The book, the 2002 publication, Hollywood Hulk Hogan

with Michael Jan Friedman.

Well, it's written, Hollywood Hulk Hogan by Hollywood Hulk Hogan with Jan Michael Friedman.

But I have the chapter here dealing with Memphis, and I wanted to read it to you to get your interpretation of it.

Okay, this ought to be interesting.

He talks about Pensacola.

I did like this part here.

I just walked into the first dressing room I saw, and it turned out to be the bad guys' dressing room.

This guy, David Schultz, who wrestled as Dr.

D,

saw me in there and yelled, who the hell are you?

What are you doing here?

Kayfabe, get the mark the fuck out of here!

So before we go forward jim if a wrestler yells kayfabe get the mark out of here is that breaking kayfabe

well first of all

like many of the hogan stories there is some grain of truth in this much like there's a grain of sand on the beach Obviously, if Hogan had made it that far, and we know that Hogan

trained first in Florida and worked under a mask,

what was the name that he, when he first got the ring in Florida?

Super Destroyer, would not like the famous ones, but just he was underneath.

And then,

you know, the two territories he worked at first were

the Memphis Territory and the Mobile or Pensacola Territory for the Fullers.

And

at that point, he was smart enough to the business to know that the baby face shouldn't go in the heel locker room.

But he also,

since he probably what happened is that he got to this building, he didn't know where the fuck he was.

He'd never been in goddamn Alabama before.

He's just got there and he blunders into the heel locker room by mistake.

And Schultz, obviously.

has to know who he is because look at the size of him.

You couldn't mistake him for anybody else.

Probably cussed him like a red-headed stepchild for being in the wrong fucking locker room.

Get the fuck out of here, you fucking idiot.

K Fabe.

You would say that to one of the boys who was obviously doing something contrary to that in public.

Kay Fabe, idiot.

So I can see that happening, but I don't think it was.

He was so clueless at that point.

He just blundered in the wrong door.

He wanted to beat my ass.

And there were a bunch of other wrestlers there.

Roy Wayne Ferris,

the honky talk man, and some others who could have gotten away from me.

He

makes Wayne sound like a fucking serial killer with people in his goddamn crawl space when he reads out his real legal name.

And then there was Roy Wayne Ferris, who was convicted of.

But I was so big, they didn't really jump.

So I just walked across the arena floor to the good guys' dressing room and met all the guys I was supposed to be with.

But that was my introduction to Dr.

D.

Pretty soon.

We would raise some hell together and become good friends, and we would stay that way for a long time.

And after that, he would end up hating my guts and calling me a steroid abuser.

But at the time, all I knew about him was that he had given me a hard time for walking in to the wrong dressing room.

But let's get to the Memphis part here.

This is page 43 of the Hulk Hogan autobiography.

I wasn't exclusive to Louis Tillette, so I wrestled for a couple of other outfits in between runs in the Pensacola, Alabama territory.

One of them

was the partnership of Jerry Lawler and Jerry Jarrett, which operated out of Memphis, Tennessee.

Jerry Lawler was like a god in Memphis.

At times, he was as popular as Elvis.

He even ran for mayor as a joke.

He didn't lift a finger to promote his campaign.

It wasn't a fucking joke.

He didn't lift a finger to promote his campaign, and he came in third in a 15-candidate race.

Oh,

he gave quite a few people a finger trying to, that one trying to win.

It was in Tennessee that I became known as Terry the Hulk Boulder and won my first heavyweight championship belt.

I wasn't Hulk Hogan quite yet, but I was getting there.

It was also in Tennessee that I started using a boot to the face and a leg drop as a finish.

Nobody else was using a leg drop at the time.

So it set me a little apart from the other guys.

Okay, hold on one second.

People in this territory had been watching Plowboy Frazier drop the fucking leg for goddamn 15 years at that point.

Here's the thing Hogan did start.

I don't.

I don't remember the boot to the face yet.

It definitely didn't always preface the leg drop, but when he started doing the leg drop here, I can testify it was the most air he ever got

because the Memphis rings had some give to them because it was a bumping territory.

And he could get a little spring and he would get air and it looked fucking good for a guy that size.

That was one of his,

you know, most accomplished moves.

But when

he got to the rings that Vern and then Vince had,

that air significantly fucking declined.

One night in Memphis, I saw Jerry Lawler put a pile driver on a comedian named Andy Kaufman

who had gotten involved in wrestling.

Then Lawler and Andy Kaufman showed up on the David Letterman show.

Lawler slapped Kaufman and Kaufman threw coffee in Lawler's face.

And all of a sudden, Andy Kaufman began showing up on wrestling cards on a constant basis.

I didn't

hold on here one second.

by the way um

the hulk worked memphis in 1979

and lawler pal drove kaufman on may 5th 1982

just for perspective now he did come in one time as a heel managed by jimmy hard against lawler was that 81

february 1981 i was there and i'm in the fucking at ringside in the video taking pictures.

Okay, well, he puts himself here in Memphis when this happened.

I don't understand why they let a guy like Andy Kaufman get into the ring to wrestle, especially after I had worked so hard to pay my dues.

But I was young and green in those days.

I thought wrestling was about having a good match, getting a six-pack of beer, and picking up a girl.

It didn't occur to me that we were trying to draw money.

I remember a time at the old Chicago Ambassador.

Now, actually,

during the period of time that Hulk was in Memphis in that first run,

I could agree with that.

It didn't appear that he knew that the object was to drama.

I remember a time in the old Chicago amphitheater when I was working for Jerry Lawler and Jerry Jarrett.

When I happened to walk in on a meeting in the dressing room, Lawler was there.

Jarrett was there.

And Andy Kaufman was there.

Oh, good lord.

It was like walking into a Pentagon meeting.

I knew I needed to back up.

I knew I needed to back right up.

Because all three of these personalities are so intimidating.

Because I wasn't welcome.

Later on, I passed Andy Kaufman in the hallway.

I didn't know him, but I didn't think it would hurt to be friendly.

So I said hello to him.

Why would he think that, why would that even pass some kind of editing process if this is indeed a book instead of like Mario Galento's self-published thing that that his fucking wife wrote.

Well, let me stop here and ask you.

So when,

because you were still around, when Lawler and Jarrett ran all those shows at the Chicago Amphitheater,

was there typically a room that they held their secret meetings with Andy Kaufman in?

No.

And

here's the thing.

Jarrett and Lawler never ran the Chicago International Amphitheater.

Lawler has worked there.

It was long past a point where Hogan would have worked for Vern and been at the Chicago amphitheater where lawler and jarrett co-promoted super clash that was in 1987 hogan had other fish to fry at that point andy kaufman died in 1983

there hogan no none of these people coexisted on a wrestling show in chicago or anywhere else

uh

kaufman didn't die in 1983 i'm sorry it was 84 right beginning of 84 i believe yeah um but the point is no Hulk Hogan.

I'm sure Andy Kaufman and Hulk Hogan had met at some point,

and we know Lawler and Kaufman had met, we know Lawler and Hulk have met,

but they weren't all three in the same place the same time ever,

especially with Jerry Jarrett added to the mix.

Yeah, that's what I was going to ask you.

The Jerry Jarrett, to the best of your memory of refly up for one of the Chicago shows in 83, maybe at Super Clash, maybe thinking, well, if I'm here, Vern will have to give me some money, and he didn't.

But

no, this is all, and again, a timeline, don't worry.

The Hulk came into Tennessee.

And, God damn it, was it?

Yes, it was early 79.

They did the video that's out there on YouTube, but you've seen it with Michael St.

John doing the voiceover.

And they shot him.

from feet to head right on the with the lighting of the bodybuilding.

It's the Hulk.

And

he worked as Lawler's tag team partner for a few weeks.

I think it gets Ron Bass and Pete Austin that

he worked with with him and his brother Eddie Boulder, who came at point

Terry Boulder was here for a few weeks.

He did a team thing with Lawler against the Mongolian stomper and somebody.

And then he was out for several weeks, which I believe was they sent him to

Mobile, one of the runs there.

And then he came back.

And that was he introduced his brother.

And that was the summer of 79, where it was Terry and Eddie Boulder, who later would become Dizzy Hogan, Ed Leslie, Brutus Beefcake.

And they had a program with Ron Bass and Pete Austin, who my old partner, Danny Davis, was managing, Sergeant Danny Davis.

And they tried to push Hulk because of his look and his size.

And putting him in a main event as tag team partners with Lawler for a couple of weeks against the stomper, et cetera, that was fine.

But then

that night in Memphis, and that was the WFIA convention,

they tried to put Terry and Eddie Boulder against Ron Bass and Pete Austin in the main event.

After they'd seen Jerry Lawler and Bill Dundee versus Michael Hayes and Terry Gordy, the Freebirds, and

Jackie and Roughhouse Fargo against Wayne Ferris and Larry Latham, the Blonde Bombers, and Danny Davis in a three-on-two handicap match where they tore the whole building up.

And that was what the people, it was like eight or nine thousand people or whatever.

That was what they came to see.

And then

here goes the main event with the Hogan brothers out there, and it was crickets.

They were so green.

The people were used to

action and matches of people to talk and they don't what the fuck, blah, blah, blah.

It's all this wild shit.

And then these green muscle guys, it didn't translate.

And they had a stinky run

for maybe another three months or whatever.

And then, and poof, they were gone.

And Hogan couldn't talk yet either.

It was, he was struggling because you've either, again, on YouTube.

I was in the TV studio when one of those interviews that's on YouTube was cut.

And he, he was saying daddy, but he was like, and I'm going to tell you this, daddy,

and brother.

And

he was trying, he knew what he wanted to do, but it wasn't coming out yet because he did his first year in the business.

But they did not get over

because of the competition on the roster from all these other guys that.

knew exactly what the fans wanted to see.

And

they were just green and they couldn't fucking talk.

Let me finish his thoughts on Andy Kaufman.

Of course, he passed him in the hallway.

His eyes opened real wide, and he looked at me like he was scared to death.

Like he thought I was going to kill him on the spot.

He was out of his element, I guess.

And he didn't know what to expect.

That was actually Andy Kaufman's normal facial expression.

I never really liked his act.

That poo-poo-pee-pee stuff he dialed up, the weird alien mouse voice, voice.

It was out there.

It never did anything for me.

Is Hogan the only person in the world that didn't love Andy fucking Kaufman?

If you ask me, it was just boring.

Oh, good lord.

That poo-poo pee-pee stuffy dialed.

The alien mouse voice.

I mean, he played Mighty Mouse.

That was one of his skits.

Well, you can tell that apparently Hogan has spent a lot of time boning up on pop culture.

We ought to listen to this show.

See, we had the George M.

Cohan reference earlier.

Now we're going to do the seven little foys in a minute.

Well, that's, again, from the Hulk Hogan book.

Oh, the poo-poo-pee-pee.

Some of the chapters here, A Rock and a Hard Place, The Giant, K-Fabe,

Steroids, Money, Music, Money, and Matsuda.

So obviously, there's maybe more to mine here in the future.

The Deodorant King.

When I was wrestling in New York, I met a guy named Mike Sharp, who was a second-generation wrestler and the biggest hygiene freak I had ever met.

Mike Sharp was usually a preliminary wrestler, so he would often be in the first match of the evening.

But there were times where he would get locked in the building after everyone went home because he was still in the shower washing off.

Okay, I hate to say it, but this is a spot where Hulk Hogan is not telling a lie.

Usually,

Mike Sharp, well, go ahead, go ahead.

Usually a guy would put a right guard deodorant stick under his armpit and go one, two, three, four, five, done.

Mike Sharp would carry on a 20-minute conversation and swab his arm with the stick the whole time.

He would use up the whole damn stick and then he would start on the other armpit.

In fact, if you looked at his bag, he had 30 or 40 deodorant sticks sitting in there.

Then, after he was all done using the sticks, he would go back and take another shower

and he would do the same thing over and over again until they kicked him out of the building and went on every night the guy was a total wacko for hygiene by the way that's an entire chapter that's chapter 12 the deodorant kid well

And it degenerated into just a bit of exaggeration, but not that much.

It was Mike Sharp was, and I only peripherally knew him because he was was still working when i first started with the wwf he was still working especially like the tvs in the northeast whatever

but he was noted in the industry it wasn't just with the he

i guess had some kind of ocd

but he was a physical fitness guy too he was very you know serious with that and He would get to the building like hours before everybody did.

So he could go out and run the the bleachers.

You just see him running up and down the stairs in the building, up and down, and up and down and up and down.

And then he'd take a shower.

And then, you know,

he might then have to go to the meeting with the finish of what he was going to do, talk to his opponent or whatever.

Okay.

And then if he had time before the doors opened, he'd go run some stairs and then he'd take a shower.

And then after his match,

he had his after-match routine, and it was an involved thing.

And on at least one occasion, which gave rise to, oh, it used to happen all the time, but it may have happened more than once.

His aftermatch shower, and bear in mind, he wasn't on last.

He was on in the middle of the show, but I think he did some more fucking calisthenics after his match in the locker room.

And then he would take a shower.

And one night, the shower went so long that everybody,

everybody left and they closed the building, locked him in the the fucking building.

Because nobody knew he was still back there in the shower, in the bowels of the building.

And

that was kind of the thing that he was known for

and very

conscientious about his work.

I mean, you know, but he there,

I don't know if Mike Sharp is still around and I'm certainly not trying to.

He passed.

He passed a few years back.

All right.

Well, I'm not trying to, I wasn't trying to start a feud with him or anything, but there had to be something

going on.

But he was not a crazy person.

He was a well-meaning, earnest, kind of straight type of person that I had experience with.

Like, oh, yes, yes, no, no, yeah, whatever the fuck.

Not like some crazy person, but he was.

Here's my impression of Mike Sharp walking down the hallway after realizing he's locked in the building.

He used to just growl in his matches.

That's what made him stand out.

I loved it.

I saw him doing it at the Manhattan Center.

He got the whole building going.

He

looks a lot like, I guess maybe even some of the fans who saw him on WWF TV don't know his father and his uncle, the Sharp brothers, Mike and Ben Sharp, Mike Sharp Sr.

They were a giant big name attraction tag team in the 1950s, and they were on that first tour in Japan with Ricky Dozen, where the Sharp brothers in Japan, because they were like six, five or six apiece and 260 pounds or whatever, that was giant for the time.

So they were the first major Americans names wrestling in Japan, and they were a noted tag team.

And

he looked a lot like it, but he had that old-fashioned 50s way of body language, way of carrying himself and drawing back at the fans and

all that stuff.

It was great.

great.

But he pulled it off.

He made it work.

But he was locked in at least one building for bathing too long.

I just found a flyer the other day for his wrestling school down at I think Brick, New Jersey.

And a lot of the Jersey indie guys of the 90s came out of there.

Devin Storm, Donnie B, I think maybe Mike Meraldo, Inferno Kid, maybe.

I don't know.

A lot of guys from New Jersey came through.

Maybe not Inferno Kid, but a lot of the other guys.

I don't know.

Well, thank you for that clear and concise.

Maybe Rick Ratchet, but I don't know if any wrestling school would want to take.

You've been keeping long hours with all this business we've been trying to conduct here lately.

More to be announced, more to be announced.

But, Jim,

let's go from the wonderful world of Hogan

to

Europe.

Back to Europe for more WWE, more WWE in Europe for WWE Raw on Netflix.

Well, they were in Glasgow, Scotland.

Shout out to our friend Kenny McIntosh.

He's getting married this summer at a location near some of you people over there.

So be sure to crash Kenny's wedding.

But they were,

again,

they've been in Italy.

They've been in Spain.

They're in Scotland.

They're going to London.

And I mean, if I was

30 years younger, I might say, yeah, for the next four four years or so, keep me the fuck out of America as much as you can.

But God almighty,

some of these people might want to go home and see their family every once in a while, mightn't they?

And they're sold out again, 11,000

whatever people.

And the crowd shot with the drone coming into it.

It's a bowl.

a bowl type

arena is what I'm trying to say.

So it was round.

and when the drone came in it just it looked like one of the the the the the thunderdome that we talked about brian where the motorcycle rider could just ride around the the bowl

the thunderdome

the crowd looked impressive did it not it did and they of course love to sing and shout and twist and shout and dance and let it all go it's like when Rock and Roll first let it all hang out.

It's like when Rock and Roll first hit Russia.

When Billy Joel was playing and finally the fans like, hey, the troops aren't going to shoot us.

We can dance.

Yes.

Oh, comrade, move your booty.

Oh,

well, yes,

they were singing here and chanting.

And they play John Cena's music.

And immediately, John Cena sucks.

John Cena sucks.

John Cena sucks.

And you know what?

We thought we were going to see some kind of Hollywood Hulk Hogan transformation where he's going to start wearing all in

all,

wearing all black or look heelish or grow a beard or something.

He hasn't changed the outfit

and one iota or the burger towel that he holds up.

And by the way, you know, John Cena, that's where he got the idea for the towel that he holds up.

It's from my burger towels.

Obviously, that's one of the things I taught him in OBW.

You You knew that, didn't you, Brian?

I had not heard that.

That's

not something I had seen before.

Well, you've heard it now.

See, you never know what you're going to learn here or potentially what I can make you believe.

But the thing I'm saying is, it works to me.

Now, not changing the look because now that you want to find

something wrong with it, or the people want to pick at it or whatever.

Because let's face it, he's still a man that's almost 50 years old wearing that stupid fucking outfit and with and waving a burger towel around and hustle, loyalty, respect, you can't say all that stuff.

It worked for the time and then it worked because he it became iconic.

But now that they're looking for a reason to not like it,

it fucking works.

That outfit gets some fucking heat, doesn't it?

If you're thinking about it that way.

I think so, yes.

And also, I do think the idea is that he didn't change.

They changed.

Or is that what he's saying?

No, he's saying that everyone's always been awful.

Maybe they've always, they've always been awful.

That's right.

But I'm just that people wanted, they were thinking, oh, is he going to change?

Is it going to change the music?

Are they going to change the looks?

He's going to come out on all Hollywood with the rock or whatever.

No, he just looks now.

He looks like a fucking balding man having a midlife crisis and he's pouting.

And that's the grid, the look.

That is Boo Boo face.

The look that he's giving when he comes out, he's the opposite of, oh, I'm happy.

Let's go to work.

And I'm going to slide in.

He's walking out.

He's looking at those people with boo-boo face.

Like, fuck you.

And all he has to do is something on your mind.

And they boo him.

And he heals the feds, but he's being a fucking.

And now he's got a stick up his ass.

John Cena, the doctor of thugonomics, the guy that,

you know, was anti-authority and establishment in his youth or whatever the fuck,

at least in their minds, is now

he's the fucking petulant fucking old guy.

Get off my lawn, kids.

He's, he's, you know what he's doing, Brian?

He's yelling at clouds.

But it's,

get there, fuck you, Cena and Netflix.

At first, they tried to bleep,

fuck you, Cena, but the guy was off.

So what I heard was, fuck you, bleep, fuck you, bleep.

And then

they started chanting, shut the fuck up, and the guy just quit.

He just said, fuck it.

I'm not even getting in this.

But he cuts the promo on the fans.

and how they're all horrible people.

For 25 years, I've listened to your lies and noise.

And I got to recognize the one guy with the sign that says, Cena fears Finn Martin.

Finn Martin, obviously, longtime editor of numerous wrestling publications in the United Kingdom.

And

he's actually the American or the English cousin of the American Quinn Martin.

Brian, you know, Quinn and Finn, they were quite a tag team.

I don't think there's anything back in the Tennessee territory.

I don't know about that.

And that

Cena said that your lives are all sad.

You got sad lives.

And he did the heel promo on the fans and their shortcomings.

And I can't do it justice because he's the

linguist, but he knocked him for not liking the spinner belt in 2005

and how everybody hated that.

So now he's going to ruin wrestling for everybody because at WrestleMania.

He's going to win the title for the 17th time and make you forget all about Ric Flair.

And even worse, I'm winning the title and I'm retiring with it.

I'm taking it home with me.

So I'm going to be the last real champion here and I'm going to walk away with your memories and your dreams and you can't stop me.

And they hit Cody's music.

Oh my God.

And now they're happy.

And they're singing and they're whoaing.

And here comes Cody to answer this effrontery to the wrestling fan there in Glasgow.

And,

of course, he immediately, well, when his music comes down, the people

sang-chanted for him.

Again, it's the soccer, I guess.

They know all the tunes and all the

ebbs and the flows of the things.

They're very musical people over there, aren't they?

Who would have thought it would be soccer,

the football, as they call it over there, that would get people together?

I get

they're musical because they get their bell rung all the time.

Is that what we're being told?

Who's telling us that?

No.

Well, then, how come they sing so much better than the crowds in America?

The American crowds don't sing.

Again, I don't know what the soccer chants are, but there was one song that literally just sounded like Cody Rhodes, Cody Rhodes, Cody Rhodes.

I don't know what song that is.

Yeah, but they were all doing it at the same time.

Over here, you can't get people to agree on the lyrics to stairway to heaven.

Anyway, Cody comes out and does a babyface promo and takes up for the people.

And he fights for their right to party.

And he said, you said that you would take this belt from them.

Well, shouldn't you take it away from me first?

And he took up for the fans, which led to them doing more

sing-chanting.

And then he laid the belt down down and dared John Cena to take it.

And Cena

turned around and left the ring.

And Cody called him back and dared him to get in the ring.

And Cena came back and he went back out.

And then Cody, in his dustyism

of the week, he said, Let me tell you this, John Cena.

Your psychotic need to take this doesn't outweigh our need to keep it, baby.

Only said it like Cody says it.

And then he told Cena that he's going to walk away from WrestleMania and the WWE empty-handed, just like he's doing there.

And again, they just, they talked and then they

left.

And it takes

20 minutes.

And I'm not saying any of it's bad, but it's just between the singing and the chanting and the milking and the interringing.

And it, it,

if you'd have done something on one of Vince McMahon's programs 30 years ago that had the pace of this, he would have screamed at you.

I see, we could have done this in fucking six minutes.

But it was very good.

What did you think?

I thought it was excellent.

It went a really long time,

but I really enjoyed it.

But some of the critics who have not liked the Cena Heal promos

have seen them say, and they're right.

It went a long time, but it was really good.

Cody's argument is ridiculous.

And I know he's really hot right now.

The fans are singing his name,

but

he's not mad because he's got his ass kicked.

He's mad because you want to take the title from them.

What?

I mean, come on.

It's dusty.

It is.

You can do what you want to this pole

broken down body.

You can do what you want, Ivan Koloff, Anderson Brothers, to this pole broken down body.

But when you start talking about the people of the state of Georgia, that type of thing.

Is Cena trying to deliberately drive Cody nuts?

Where he gets Cody all amped up, wanting a fight,

and then he just bows out and walks away slowly.

Like he's playing mind games with him.

Well, no.

What he's doing is he's acknowledging that there's still, what they say, 26 days left to WrestleMania.

We don't need to be physical this far out.

And then he's playing mind games.

But yeah, no, they're milking this.

And why?

Why would they need, you know,

if this was AEW, yes, they'd have jumped each other coming out of the fucking entry tunnel and they'd have brawled for 15 minutes through the building.

They don't need it right now and they don't need it this early, this far before the,

I would suggest that

one time,

probably

before WrestleMania,

there will be a situation where Cody either almost get he gets Cena, but he don't get to do what he wants to do, and Cena turns it around and beats him up again,

or perhaps just Cody gets his hands on him, but don't get what he wants to do.

Well, no, I still think, and then they'll, they'll, Cena will get a little heat on him again.

I don't think it'll be more than that.

And again, two weeks now of this, I don't think they could have Cena go into every town and just do this kind of promo over and over again.

I think two weeks is enough, it has to be something different, but two weeks with no mention of The Rock,

no mention of Travis Scott from Cody, no mention of you teamed up with The Rock to turn against me and all these people.

The announcers who are instructed in these things do reference that, oh, he sold his soul for the final boss, but none of the talent is.

But yeah, but the people actually doing the angle aren't saying anything about it.

What the hell is that?

Because now, even if The Rock shows up again in a couple of weeks to be a part of this, you're not starting from scratch, but why has he not been referenced or mentioned by the actual people doing the 25-minute segments?

Because the announcers can be instructed as these things to say, but the people doing the 25-minute segments are the guy that's retiring after being one of the biggest stars in the history of the company and the other guy who's on top during their hottest period.

And I don't think they want to talk about it a lot, either one of them.

I think they're doing what they're doing to get the attention on them

and their match and not

on people who might want to steal some spotlight.

Well, perhaps they could switch it up and they could say that it's not about the rock.

They could say it's about John Cena not having a good night's sleep, not having the right mattress

well you could talk about that because if this was 20 years ago or whatever when john cena was the that had the doctorate in thugonomics he would say well your mama walks down the street with a mattress tied to her back

but see now you can't say stuff like that anymore because everybody knows that all the finer whoers have air mattresses that they can inflate and deflate as necessary.

So it's no longer a thing where you see people in that line of work walking down the street with with a mattress tied to their back.

And here's another reason why you don't see that.

Yeah, let's focus on people who live in a house and do things.

Well, yes, well, there's all kinds of houses, Brian.

Haven't you

ever heard of some of those houses?

Let's specifically not mention some houses, but let's talk about Mr.

and Mrs.

America just looking for a good night's sleep.

I was at a house in New Orleans one time.

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And Jim, I understand before we get back to international affairs, we have some local news.

Well, boy, I tell you, somebody got a wake-up call.

Of course, one of our stringers sent this into the desk.

It's

the guy that's covering the Ryan Nimeth beat

this week.

Folks may recall, although maybe you don't.

It's been a while.

But Ryan Nemeth sued

Tony Khan, all-elite wrestling, CM Punk.

potentially Home Depot and Dan Rather.

I'm not sure.

No, no, that was Raqqa Khan.

Don't get the two.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Okay.

For blackballing him from the wrestling industry and ruining his, what would have been an incredible Hall of Fame career.

And

there was some ridiculous verbiage that you, it was almost like a, some kind of comedy club or improv room parody of what a lawyer would put

in a lawsuit about the

fascination that Tony Khan had with CM Punk and the adoration and adulation and

anal interference or whatever.

I could say with more to be said in the future, we are literally involved with lawsuits where we detest the person who we've had to sue, yet we didn't get as personal as he did in his fucking lawsuit.

We wanted to,

but respectable attorneys that you would think would be...

you know, the ones you'd want to win a case would not have approved this.

But nevertheless, that's the last we heard of that from Ryan.

Well, apparently now Ryan Nimeth

has changed his little bio on his, I think it's Twitter.

It's

at

and follow and it's, he's got the followers and the fight.

He's following 3,000 people.

That's when you know you're just a social climber.

Who can follow 3,000 people and give a shit?

But nevertheless,

he's changed his bio.

Would you like to hear what the new bio is for Ryan Nimeth on the social mediums?

I didn't know what the old one was, but sure.

It says, raise your hand if a literal billionaire sent someone to sue you four minutes before you walked on stage for your off-Broadway debut play this weekend.

And a little emoji of a yellow-faced fellow with a blue sleeve slapping himself on the forehead.

So apparently there has been a countersuit

to the suit.

Apparently, David Geffen finally got his hands on Ryan Nemeth.

Good to hear.

And poor Wright, he was off Broadway.

I understand it was a play in Schenectady.

It was off Bowery.

But, well, no, Hunts Hall turned him down.

But Bernard Gorsey said he'd do it if the money was right.

So now there's,

I guess we'll be hearing that there is a countersuit for some kind of what would you sue in return for that suit that we read?

Bad writing?

Did we, we didn't,

what did what would Tony sue him for?

I mean, I know that Tony,

I mean, this is their move.

It's not even about Ryan Nemeth.

They try to force things back into arbitration.

That's what they want.

The last thing they want is to have to go through the courts, and the last thing they want is to have to go public with a trial, with a jury, and everything else.

Well, Ryan Nemeth got served, and he wasn't even in a dance competition.

So he's been served with something because that's the way that,

you know, that's the way that these amateurs who've never been in multiple lawsuits from a variety of positions, such as myself, that's the way that they refer to being served in a suit is he sent somebody to sue me.

And now he's going to sue Carol Channing for being blackballed from Broadway.

How many billionaires do you think he's sideways with?

Could this not be Tony?

Is this another billionaire?

Well, it's interesting.

Would Tony do this as a way, if it was true, and if we're going with the idea that anything in this lawsuit is true, would Tony do this in this fashion as a way to win back the love and affection of CM Punk?

Hey, remember when they served you right when you were going to get married?

This guy ain't getting married.

I waited until he was going to disease you on Broadway, but this never happened.

Yeah, this is the best it's going to get for this guy.

So we'll get him here.

But no, I think Tony is suing him for defamation of his manliness for talking about the fascination that Tony allegedly has for punk's manly bits.

And he's like, this is ruining me from

getting all the young debutantes at all the balls that from the other kids of parents who invented bumpers for cars or wherever the fuck his social circle is at.

what do you think

that must be his social circle sure the the the kids of other parents who invented car bumpers chim chim can you meet my friend mike michelin do you know my friend mike michelin over here yeah just he's got

he's the one we always talk about with a spare tire around his waist oh it's good year rob good year rob's over come over here say hello to tony bumper tony

tony's got plenty of bumps he's gonna be doing

I kid, I kid, of course.

Tony, the bumper, baby.

This is, I'm sorry for rubbing my hands together as I'm thinking about all this.

Jay Snakarado is going to get mad.

Travis Eckle's going to have a mental breakdown trying to figure this one out.

Ryan Nemeth arguing, even to get past the insults, arguing he's blackballed was ridiculous because

he might be

someone the AEW wouldn't hire, but that wouldn't stop WWE.

Tony Conner would have nothing to do with that.

And he's been working for TNA

where his brother's there.

And he's off Broadway.

And he's off Broadway.

AKA TNA.

He's, you know, what was he in?

Was he in hair?

Like, what was he actually doing off Broadway?

Rent with Brian Nemeth.

Wait a minute.

He was in a takeoff of Greece called Hot Water.

Bye-bye, Birdie, but it's bye-bye, Tony.

It's all about the lawsuit.

Well, that is the local news.

Let's get back to WWE Raw.

Oh, they still were doing that, weren't they?

In Scotland, in Glasgow.

There was at Glasgow.

Glasgow,

Glasgow.

There was a bunch more stuff.

I'm going through the plugs and the commercials and spots and travelogue.

Here we came up on EO and Bianca and Rhea and what's going on with them.

And

Adam Pierce is an underrated and underheralded individual.

The way that he exhibits frustration, not only with

the talent that is giving him all kinds of problems, but also some of the fucking cornball shit that he has to deliver.

He's like, he's got the bits.

He takes the glasses off.

He fucking looks at the consternation on his face.

He's got to work with this shit.

But they did the same thing.

It was like they've taken this show on the road.

It wasn't in Broadway.

It was in Baloney.

And then it was in Glasgow

where they did another thing where EO comes out.

She's barely taller than the barricade.

Somebody tweeted, by the way, her build listed statistic

on the official website is she's five foot one.

Oh, you saw that?

You saw someone tweet that?

I saw somebody tweet that.

Did you see the hundreds of people tweeting how wrong you are about EO, that she's good, that she has talent, that she's over, that they like but nobody said she wasn't five foot one

i said she was in the range i think that was the range i said i said up to five three i said up to five three i capped it at five three you sound like the guy that gave me the warranty on my roof

But anyway, she struggled to say that she would take on both Ria and Bianca when Bianca came out, interrupted Adam Piercy.

He was trying to make a proclamation again.

He couldn't get it out because

people wouldn't quit interrupting him.

And Bianca says, this is bullshit.

She didn't say bullshit, but she might as well have.

She earned the number one contender spot.

She's not letting Rhea into the match because she doesn't deserve it.

And then Maria's music hits and a big pop.

Now they brought the big guns out.

Because EO, they're polite and Bianca, they seem like they're not happy with Bianca over there in Glasgow.

But Rhea brought the house

And she said, I don't give a damn about WrestleMania or who I've got to go through to get my title back, but I want my rematch.

And Bianca tells Ria that, well, you can just hold on and just hold your horses for three weeks and wait till I beat EO, and then you can have your rematch with her or with me.

And they did the same thing, but they've done this how many times, like two or three times now,

where

Bianca and Rhea get face to face, arguing, ignoring EO, and she starts to walk up, and one of them just pie faces her, like, get her out of the way, like, yeah, not now, kid.

And then Eo again started back at him, and Pierce blocked her off.

No, no, no, don't do it.

So I'm pretty sure

at this point,

that some way or another, Ria

and Bianca are coming out of this thing,

feuding for the title or even a chance at the title if they don't take it from EO at WrestleMania.

But Bianca is going to be the heel.

But Pierce has the solution.

Next week, it's going to be Rhea versus EO,

and the winner will face Bianca at WrestleMania.

And some way or another, I bet you that Bianca is going to cost Rhea

the title with EO next week.

But anyway, anyway, nevertheless, then they all three

Ria and Bianca start arguing again, and EO ran at Bianca, but Bianca alley-ooped EO, but EO grabbed Rhea in a hurricane rana or whatever.

And they went through the most preposterous series of choreographed three-way shit that I have ever seen.

And

even though this was an

overseas crowd into everything,

the people weren't really going crazy for it because it was so

there was no payoff and excitement and aggression.

It was just the endless alley oop into somebody else foiling someone else's move.

But whenever Bianca

got a hold of EO like she was going to do something, they booed the fuck out of that.

Did you notice that?

I've been telling you, I thought Bianca's giving off heel vibes for a few weeks, ever since since the Naomi attack and the...

Oh, now you agree with me.

I've been saying it.

And I think every time I would say it, you would just turn it around to insulting E.O.

Sky for no good reason.

But here we are.

Is this still going to end up a three-way?

I think

it's almost got to the way that they're going, doesn't it?

And also because of.

The fairness to the female genre

that we have to have the guys three-way and the girls three-way, like we got the guys rumble and the girls rumble, and again, blah, blah, blah.

But I'd rather see Ria and Bianca.

Anyway,

dramatic music.

Jim, let's move on from the girls segment.

There's still more of Raw.

You never know when it's safe, folks.

Yeah, that stuff can just come in at any time.

And oh, Jesus Christ, what was that?

Well, now we come to the part of the raw program where we come to the the three

men vying for supremacy and the triple threat situation that they got over there with cm punk and seth franklin rollins and roman reigns they had a big package on that with the happenings and then suddenly

a like mussolaney

had a big crowd poppy from Glasgow for our own punky Cause

what's the matter with you?

It was awful lyrics.

That's what's the matter with me.

My voice almost stuck like that.

Now my voice is stuck.

Your voice wasn't even the problem this time.

It was the actual lyrics.

Well,

I'll have you know I'm a cunning lyricist as well.

Punky?

Our own punky.

Hey, by the way, are we still calling him Franklin?

I've had people ask us that because apparently WWE has dropped freaking.

He's now just Seth Rollins, the grown-up Seth Rollins.

Well, but just is he still Franklin?

Just because they're allowed to change people's names willy-nilly doesn't mean that we are bound to that, does it?

We can still call people by their proper names.

I agree.

What about Jack Double Barrel Cannon?

What about him?

We can call him that.

Yes, we can.

But anyway, you know who they were calling CM Punk over there in Glasgow?

CM Punk.

Because they got the big CM Punk chants going and they

sing.

They're multi-lingual over there in the overseas lands.

They know all these fucking songs and chants and they go back and forth.

It's amazing.

And he's there to do a promo.

Now,

riddle me this, Brian.

We just talked a little earlier in the program.

It seems so long ago and oh, so far away.

But they're all over there.

They're in Bologna and they're in Cologne and they're in fucking London and they're in all these places, Spain and France.

And

but how can if they're

Roman Reigns nor

Seth were on this show?

And Punk comes out and cuts a promo and basically says that they're, you know, they're going to be in London.

They're too scared to come here or whatever he said, but did they just say it, oh, we're over here, but fuck it.

I mean, does that count toward their number of contracted dates to the point where they'd rather sit off on a sold-out house or what?

I don't, yeah, that's they flying back and forth.

That's what I was wondering.

This did this conflict with Romans' 15 dates a year

or whatever.

Well, but whatever he works, goddamn.

If you, if you're over there, would you would you come all the way back home to be home for a couple of days, turn around and leave again or whatever?

I I don't know.

You know what?

I'm glad

when I watched TV, when I was a wrestling fan, when I was a kid, you could think, well, if I got into business, I could go all the way to Memphis, Tennessee.

That was a big deal.

But fucking Maine to Spain on a choo-choo train.

Anyway,

so Punk cut a promo.

It's a great promo.

And he's promoing, you know, his issue with these two fucking guys.

And he had

a little homage, or as the kids call it, an Easter egg or whatever, with, you know, the more things change, the more they stay the same.

I work with children.

But Seth screwed me at the elimination chamber because he's a little diaper piss baby.

And

Roman screwed me.

Well,

for those two, it's personal, but for me, it's business.

There's two guys in my way and they got to go, Seth and Roman.

And he dropped a little hint that, Roman, you know, somebody better tell you that

your wise man isn't just your wise man.

And there's a contract signing on Friday.

I'm like, what the fuck?

Did they get they all went home from fucking where were they Friday night in Spain

or Bolivia?

They all went home and are coming back to London

Friday.

You always mentioned Bolivia.

Bolivia is nowhere.

We got a big audience.

I'm trying to talk to the people out there, there the cult of cornet

in uruguay uruguay is a hotspot for us right now uruguay

uruguay uruguay well i'm sorry i didn't mean to maybe that's something that you need to tell people about yourself on your own

i didn't mean to reveal anything but nevertheless

nevertheless nevertheless

more of this that's happening

uh seth and roman fuel up the jets and i'll see you in london that's what punk is saying i'm not going to be there so

but he reminded everybody again neither one of you have ever beaten me without the other one's help and i brought you into this business and i can't wait to take you out of it because they were his shield along with the the other guy before he started exhibiting all the brain damage symptoms or whatever

you what do you think

I hate to go back to him.

That's probably what Renee thinks, but

what does he think when his two compadres

are two of the biggest fucking wrestling stars in the goddamn world for the biggest wrestling company in the world, and he's over there getting a fucking phony bat stuck in his back?

I think he has personal satisfaction in that he's able to do all the stupid stuff that Brock Lesnar said.

I'm not doing this, you idiot.

He now does it, and he has a billionaire paying him and his wife millions of dollars to be there every week for this.

He does promos that no one likes.

Their own fans have turned against him.

His matches are terrible.

His stable is the most boring stable ever.

But he's doing his own thing.

If he was here, hey, he's in divisions.

Hey, listen, he's also exposed himself.

I'm not saying WWE wouldn't bring him back because they'll bring anyone back, especially to hurt Tony.

But man, I can't even vision him fitting into the scene over there right now because he is awful.

And these guys aren't.

Well, nevertheless, they weren't there, but Punk was, and he's going to see him Friday in London for the big contract sign.

So, you know,

again,

they get to see one of the stars, but this is

a big deal to these people.

Over there, they get one big show in, you know, a dog's age, as Aunt Lola used to say.

And then, you know, Punk comes out and does a promo, where are these other fucking guys?

Oh, we're going to be in London.

And even the people booed that.

And he said, you're booing.

He said, well,

I can't help it.

I'm here.

You know, so it was just like, fuck.

Couldn't they, couldn't they just come out and walk around and talk a little bit?

That's all they need to do.

Anyway, would you like to go to the main event, Brian?

Yeah, good promo, by the way.

Good promo.

Well, thank you.

I probably talked about

no, I thought you meant the one I just did.

What do you think they're going to do with Heyman?

Well, I don't know.

And where's Brock?

The Duke Weight Loss Clinic.

No, that's not what I'm talking about.

Oh, you mean, what are you talking about?

Creatively, they're going to do favor.

CM Punk's favor.

We don't know what it is, but they're still teasing it.

What do you think it'll be?

And what do you think Heyman's going to do?

See, the problem is

I think Heyman realizes,

like I did at one point in time, 30-something years ago, when a shoe was on the other manager, that he's not as effective, or he can't get in the meat of the matter as much as a babyface.

But circumstances,

you know, kind of demanded it.

But now, where do you go?

And

I don't know.

It's not like that if he suddenly favored punk over Roman, that it would switch him heel.

It's not like if he favored Roman over punk, it'd switch him heel unless they want to switch Roman by way.

So

there may be some resolution to this where it's what's best for Heyman.

Which, you know, again, might or might not.

Where does Brock stand with Dana White and those guys?

Are they

happy with him?

Yeah, I don't think there's any heat or anything that I know of.

Okay, then it seems like that they will bring anybody that can make them money, and Brock could make them money,

but maybe Brock wants too much money because he knows how much money they, because he was already making a fucking shitload of money.

Or are they just waiting for all the Vince stuff to go away?

Because until it does, you could bring him back.

And the next week, it's like, Brock Lesnar asked her for a plate of piss.

I don't know.

Data White was on video power schlapping his wife in a bar and he didn't even fucking go home for a day.

That is amazing.

He was doing interviews on TV right after it, too.

And he's just like, yeah.

But I think there was a mitigating circumstance that she hit him first, but nevertheless,

but yeah, so I don't think they care about that shit.

No pun intended.

I don't think they care about that shit.

But it's time for the main event.

For the Intercontinental title, I had to watch this because I wanted to see.

It could have been ugly.

It could not have been.

I was nervous.

Braun Breaker versus Penta.

And I'm thinking, is there going to be a style clash here?

Is Braun too green to deal with that type of thing?

And while it wasn't his best ever performance, it didn't stink.

It wasn't that bad.

There's still, you know,

Braun looks incredible and his fucking style, he reminds me, he works like his father and he has a personality of his uncle.

But

there's still

when Braun is having to position himself and cooperate for the

have a coronas, especially the one that Penta halfway missed and kind of body scissored him.

And just the stuff he's doing, it doesn't highlight Braun in the best light.

But like I said, it could have been a lot worse.

Although in the first 30 seconds, Penta grabbed him in a headlock with his right arm.

And I know the people who are smart

on the fucking internet are going to say, well, that's the way they do it in Mexico.

Yes, that's the idea.

That's the way they do it in Mexico.

Which is another reason why it's always been hard for luchadors with no experience in the United States and/or vice versa to fucking work with each other because a lot of times they do work from the other side down there.

But the point is, they're not in Mexico.

They were in goddamn Glasgow.

And

for Braun, I bet you that may be the first time that anybody

would have ever headlocked him with the right arm before.

And all he did was pick him up and throw him off and show his strength and everything.

But what else could you do?

He couldn't do anything else because it'd be all fucked up.

That's the point.

Does the guy just,

he's been here forever.

And so does he just forget?

And or what?

Was that

may not have been a rhetorical question but could he just suddenly forget where he's at

i guess you could

but

where you've been for years

i don't know

anyway uh it just it's just so odd i'm thinking

what the could you possibly do from that

you can't but you anyway

uh

Braun controlled a lot of it.

There wasn't a lot on the air, to be honest.

They didn't show show by the time they got him in the ring, and et cetera.

And then they went to break.

But finally, both of them were down

and they did the dueling chant, but it was let's go, Pinto.

Woof, woof, woof, woof, woof.

And then Penta made a comeback and a backstabber and two count.

And Braun foiled a Mexican destroyer into a gut buster.

And

they were, again,

you know,

I just don't like seeing Braun have to put himself in position for all this tomfoolery when he's got something going on.

But then Penta did a dive, and

Braun was right there, standing there, and he had his arms up.

And Penta went right past him.

They both fell down, but Penta just landed flat on his ass on the floor from flipping over the top rope.

And I'm saying, what the fuck?

Why?

Anyway,

Braun hit the Brekensteiner and covered him, and the crowd was counting with that one.

One, two, and he kicks out.

And I'm like, all right, Braun gets up with the mean face.

He's barking.

And then Dominic,

Dominic, and Carlito have appeared.

And Dominic drew the referee, and Carlito got up.

And Braun just brought him right in the ring and hit him with a spear, but the referee has to turn around and look and say, well, this guy's in a fucking ring.

But now they've made the rule up that as long as the guy can get in the ring all he wants, as long as the referee doesn't see him hit anybody.

The fuck.

So

the referee looks at that, but then Dominic comes in and clips Braun's leg, and then the referee disqualifies him.

So they just wanted to get out of it.

It was a spot show finish

for the people in Glasgow because, you know,

why beat either one of these guys?

And Dominic gets on Braun, and Finn comes in and hits Braun with a chair a couple of times, and then he gives it to Dominic.

Dominic hits him about four times with it.

And then Dominic gives the chair to Penta and says, hit him.

And Finn's like, what are you giving him the chair for?

You should have heard it with that accent.

What are you giving him the chair for?

And then Penta threw the chair to Dominic, who caught it and held it in front of his face so he could super kick it.

And then Finn got on Penta

and hit Braun with a chair again and double-stomped Penta.

And both the baby faces are down selling, and the heels are up.

And I'm not sure how I feel about a program involving Braun and Penta

in a feud with the

miniature Judgment Day.

What the fuck is going on here?

Can we just get Braun in some main events, please?

More Braun.

brawn

the match wasn't bad i know you were wondering how they would work together it wasn't bad again i think the only thing that really hurt it for this was just the idea that you have two babyfaces wrestling each other so the fans i don't think they want to boo penta and i don't think they want to boo braun it's like man brawn technically is still a heel because he hasn't actually turned but the people like him because he's so cool if judgment day is coming after him he's a babyface well yes Because Judgment Day are one of the acts you can say are clearly heel.

Right?

I mean, they're clearly heal.

Not too many.

Yes.

Yes.

But I'm just saying, Braun's being Braun and it's working, but I hate who Braun has to be Braun with here these days.

I'm impatient.

You hate who he has to be Braun with.

You mean Penta?

Penta and or Finn and or Carlito and or, you know, with Dominic,

it's fun when Dominic takes big bumps, but

you know and it's a tag team's whatever the jd you gotta figure is going to come back at some point

well then

we could talk about that and they're already doing ray phoenix vignette videos i think on smackdown

well maybe ah

So maybe Pinta will need a partner after Braun gets mad because Penta gets beat and spears him out of his boots.

And then Penta brings his brother Felix in.

And then Bron goes somewhere else to fight big stars.

Why didn't AEW just call him Penta?

Like Penta El Zero Miedo is just such a, I don't know, it doesn't necessarily work for non-wrestling fans in English, but Penta just kind of says it and you're done and you can move on.

It's like, oh, yeah, Penta.

Why didn't they ever just,

and that reminds people what they said over in AEW after Penta left.

Penta, gone.

Junior.

But that was Raw.

Raw gone.

Another WWE Raw.

And of course, Jim.

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But, Jim, as we move on, let's get some questions before we call it a day.

And several questions I'm sure you understand have come in over the last day about a big news story breaking.

I have an article here from Fightful.com by Colin Tessier or Tessier, one or the other.

Tessier?

And Sean Ross Sapp.

The Sap and the Tessier.

Gail Kim, Ariel Schneer,

and others are fired by TNA Wrestling.

TNA makes some major changes.

As reported by Fightful Sean Ross Sap, TNA sent out an email saying that Gail Kim, Ariel

Schnerner,

Rob Kligman, and Michael...

Not Rob!

Michael!

Michael Shuchenko

are out of the company in a round of firings.

Kim had been involved with talent relations, and she was also working as a producer.

Schnirner had been overseeing all content, and he worked closely with TNA President Anthony Chicone, Chicione, whatever his name is.

Where the fuck are these names coming from?

On all Canada, on all talent and creative decisions.

Kligman had been chief revenue officer at Anthem Sports Group, while Kligman was the vice president of digital operations.

Well, it just said his name twice.

Kligman had been the chief revenue officer, while Kligman was the vice president.

Either he was both or they left one of the names there.

I have the official email here.

Departing our leadership team are Ariel Schnirner, Gail Kim, Rob Klingman.

It said Kligman over here.

Klingman, and Michael Shuchenko.

Do you think there's a Klingman and a Klingman?

Maybe that's why they get fired.

It was confusing.

I think this is all to keep people away from Shushenko.

Something going on there.

As a longtime Anthem employee, Ariel has played an important role in

growing our Anthem properties from his work with Fight Network and most recently his focus on TNA.

Ariel has been instrumental in building our storylines and growing our audiences.

So naturally, he had to leave.

Gail has had a long and storied career in TNA as both a champion wrestler and a part of the TNA leadership team.

Gail has been a powerful presence in our locker room, supporting our talent and their great performances.

So she must go.

On the sales side, Rob Kligman, they went back to the other spelling now.

Good lord.

Rob Kligman departs as as chief revenue.

No, what do they don't even know how to spell their employees' names?

Rob Kligman departs as chief revenue officer.

And in digital, Michael Shuchenko will be departing the organization April 30th.

In addition to these leadership departures, we also say thank you and goodbye

to Karen Clevet,

Sebastian.

Was there a fuck you in the middle of there?

Sebastian dastrange

romy blazer

and raphael morphy

i know raphael he's a uh a live event promoter has been there for some time and was working with jim ross on his tour at one point he's heard he's heard thank you and goodbye a few times in the last few years

our company is built on the strength and dedication of our team and these that's why we're booting them out and these changes do not diminish the value or the contributions of those affected.

So let me stop there.

We have more news, but let's first go through this press release here about who's leaving.

I guess the first name a lot of people wanted me to ask you about is Gail Kim, just because you do have a history with her.

And of course, you have a history with TNA.

I believe you guys were there at the same time.

Yes.

What do you think of Gail Kim?

What do you think of what Gail Kim brings to the table right now in 2025?

Would she be an asset to AEW or WWE?

and what do you think of her leaving tna

well hold on now there's about 18 questions there um

i was there gail was with me both in ovw

and in tna

and i've always mentioned that i thought that her matches with awesome kong at one point were what was carrying the show ratings wise and

It was probably the best modern day women's wrestling matches that I'd seen at that point.

And maybe still, to be quite honest, before everything man, woman, child, and animal, vegetable, and mineral went crazy.

And Gail is also a responsible person, and I haven't seen her in years, but she's a responsible person.

She was a responsible adult.

If she's transitioned into production, talent relations, helping the girls with their matches, that's certainly a job that I would

put Gail Kim on a very short short list of people that I would want doing that in a wrestling company.

So

I don't know what is going on over there within the organization, but

at the same time, I don't know that she's,

how can I put this?

I don't know that she's been out shopping for more work.

She's also, last I heard, been happily married to

Robert Irvine, one of the celebrity chefs.

And I don't think she's, you know, out out there turning her resume in for every company in the world.

But,

you know, if you're going to have a

female producer for the company or for the female TNA talent, I can't think of many that would be better.

So I don't know what

the problem is there.

Would she be an assay for AEW?

Well, behind the scenes?

Well, now I have to say, oh, I've just put Gail over, but I know you can't be an asset there.

You can only be aggravated there if you care about what you're doing and have any knowledge of the wrestling business.

She would probably be somewhat miserable, shaking her head at why the fuck is all this shit going on?

She's a rational professional in the industry.

And of course, all these changes, all these firings at TNA are coming on the heels of their recent change at the top.

It doesn't have his name here anywhere.

There was a guy named Silva that just put it in charge of TNA, didn't they?

And now his name is not in his name.

Well,

he is still the president of TNA from one that I'm seeing,

but he's the one that issued the memo announcing that everybody else is gone.

Is it weird that you see all these firings in a period of time where I think everyone's kind of acknowledged TNA has more positive buzz right now than it has

at least in a decade, maybe more?

And I'm

the WWE relationship's a big thing, but what do you think of the timing?

that's again

you know what it was months and months ago now they fired demor and and everybody was like oh gosh but they actually their business picked up and i'm not saying it was direct cause and

you know result or whatever but their business picked up so now we're hearing good things and they're dealing with the wwe and they've got crowds that they're tapings and now they fire everybody that's in charge of everything again.

What makes these people happy?

But and also just

I have no idea who Ariel Schnirner

Schnirr might be.

I've never met him.

They made him apparently effectively

the head of creative because he was the executive producer of the television, but he'd never been involved in a wrestling business.

So I'm pretty sure that any of the

wrestling ideas or wrestling,

you know, the meat and potatoes of the thing have not been coming from him to begin with.

So I don't know whether that's a big deal or not.

Maybe he was getting in the way.

Yeah, at this point, when you get made the head of creative, you're just one step away from being fired.

Yeah, yeah.

But I mean, seriously, he had been, he'd been a executive within that organization rather than a wrestling person.

So whatever.

Well, Jim, more TNA news.

Let me go back to this article here from Fightful.com.

The wrestling reporter Mike Johnson reports that Hunter Johnson, no relation, also known as Delirious,

will head creative and Tommy Dreamer will continue in his role on the team.

They will report directly to Silva.

Dreamer will also head talent relations following Kim's departure.

Senior Vice President of Digital, David Clevenger, will be starting in April as well, while senior vice president of sales, Nicole Rasheen,

has already started with the company this month.

So there it is, a booking change.

And of course, next to the Gail Kim part of the story, the other thing people wanted to get your opinion on was Delirious.

Hunter Johnson, I don't know if he still prefers to be called Delirious or Hunter Johnson.

Hunter Johnson, former Ring of Honor booker, someone you work very closely with, is now the booker of TNA.

Again, in a period of time where TNA has more attention on them than they have in a long time.

What are your thoughts on this?

Well, and you know, one of the things that I like about Hunter, he doesn't want to be called at all.

He never wanted attention on it when he was booking.

I'm not talking about as a wrestler.

That would be counterproductive.

But with his book, he didn't want praise.

He didn't want attention.

He didn't have pictures of himself unmasked on the internet, shaking hands with the, you know,

the perpetrators of the big match he had just booked or whatever.

He is a workaholic.

He has a great wrestling mind and a head for

trying to please the modern fan and do the stuff that the young folks want to do without making the wrestling business or the particular company that he's working for look stupid.

And that's why we got along so well.

And I enjoyed very much working with him.

And, you know,

I bet you he hadn't changed much in the last almost 15 years or whatever

in that he still, he,

he was literally thinking about this stuff night and day.

And

how can we do this?

How can we do that?

How can we,

you know, what great match can we put on for the pay-per-view?

Whatever the fuck.

He was always thinking about this stuff.

And he was a workaholic.

And

even having, and he's also had much more patience than I am.

And

even having to deal with Greg the Office Boy for so long in Sinclair Broadcasting, he never just reached out and just grabbed anybody by the neck.

He was always the one trying to explain to people why you probably shouldn't grab that person by the neck.

So, you know, for every, I think that's a definite plus because

I don't know why in the world he was doing that job for Ring of Honor when Tony Khan bought it.

And Tony Khan bought all of the fucking

Drek and didn't keep the, you know, the diamond in the punch bowl there.

So

I think that's a definite plus.

I don't know what their problem was or what the issue was with Gail.

But if they've lost Gail, they've, you know, with getting

Delirious in charge of the creative, I think that's a positive.

And Tommy Dreamer loves talking to the young guys.

He loves talking to the boys.

And so he's probably good for talent relations.

What are Hunter Johnson's positives?

What are his best qualities as a booker?

Well, as I said,

he tries to figure out a way

to appeal to the modern fan and to let the young people do their thing,

but framing it in a way that it doesn't make the wrestling business look just completely phony or stupid.

And

I know there was a period of time that he had to hold his nose when

the Buckaroos and all of the rest of the lollipop guild had the company held hostage for a couple of years there.

But otherwise, you know, his track record has been, at least from the times that I worked with him and from anything I've seen,

he was trying to have some level of

credibility and make personalities and make talent and make stars instead of having a car wreck every week so that he's he's he's in the middle age wise he's not young and stupid but he's not old and cranky

do you think tko is going to purchase tna

no

because if they do that

that negates yes future talent may be a

thing that they're looking at and blah, blah, blah.

But if they were to purchase the thing, it negates the reason why they're probably doing this down deep to begin with, which is to avoid any kind of monopoly or antitrust talk.

The ones that are not a threat to what they're wanting to do or who they're wanting to have or not going to make any waves for them.

business-wise is the ones they're going to associate with.

And the ones that are going to fuck shit up or do shit they don't want to do that they can't keep under their thumb, they're the ones that they're going to fuck with.

They're going to fuck with AEW for upsetting the pay schedule and Tony just being richie rich and paying these indie goofs millions so that everybody thinks they're worth more.

But they're not going to fuck with TNA because they're a smaller company owned by a company that doesn't want to rule the world in wrestling and just needs programming and they can work out a talent exchange and everybody will be happy.

All right.

Well, that was the TNA news.

And as we promised, one of these weeks, and we're not exactly sure which one it'll be, it may be the next one or the one after that, but we are going to check out TNA.

We're going to see what all the buzzes are.

We got to see a before and after.

We got to watch something here pretty soon.

And then whenever they take over, who knows when this new administration's

policies will start to kick in.

And there were people like, man, as soon as Scott Damore is gone, they're going to go downhill.

They're running Long Island and LA.

So I really don't know.

But we'll see.

Let's see what all the budgets are.

Well, but they've just fired a lot of the people that got them there.

So let's see where, you know,

maybe I'd want to go in and just really stink

because it seems like that they only fire people when they're on an upswing.

Well, Jim, let's get some more questions here from the Cult of Cornette.

This one was sent via email to corney drivethru at gmail.com.

I'm guessing this is not a real name from Bitch Tits Bob.

No, actually, I know him.

You ought to see him.

It is a real name.

My question is if Andre the Giant would still be worth a shit in 2025

or if he would be just another typical giant that stands around and looks confused.

What do you think?

If Andre the Giant existed today, would he still stand out in the modern wrestling business?

Well, which Andre?

Let's say we're talking.

Yeah, I mean, that's the thing: mid-70s Andre, 1980 Andre, or late 80s Andre?

I think mid-70s Andre

would take over the goddamn world in an instant.

The Andre that people remember from WrestleMania 3 era,

no, if that's the first thing you saw.

See, remember

there was a time when everybody got old, right?

Whether it be Mickey Mantle or Joe Lewis or whatever the fuck.

Most people didn't see Andre

when he first became, you know, a deal in North America from

really from the time he was in Montreal in what, 71

to about 74, you see the pictures in the magazines, he's throwing drop kicks.

He's fucking doing all this.

He's doing a pedigree.

You know, he could move and he could also work because he'd been in Europe for five years and had some experience before anybody knew who the fuck he was or that he was around.

And then by the time that people saw him across the country in 74, 75, 76,

they had told him,

don't do so much of the things you're doing because you might get hurt and you're drawing too much money.

But these handicap matches or the matches against the big guy in the territory or whatever, have the big man match.

You never do a job.

But athletically, until

what, maybe

late 70s, when did he, when did he break his ankle?

That was early 80s.

81?

I think 81.

And he had already started gaining some weight and et cetera.

But, you know, by the late 70s,

you know, he was starting to slow down, but still until the ankle break and then he really got heavy in.

early and mid-80s.

Then he was still for the time, he was still impressive because of his size and because he could work and he had

he had aggression in the ring.

And when he'd do the giant bellow, when he got mad,

it scared people.

So his aura lasted longer than his physical prime.

But then that's why

Vince made the decision to pull the trigger on that match because he could see by 87.

You know,

it was enough where you could tell that he was hurt and he wasn't.

And it was kind of sad.

It was starting to get sad to look at him for the fans, be like, oh.

So he had to get the match out of him then.

He was never going to have another chance at it.

So which Andre you saw first would indicate whether or not, but if you had the Andre of the early and mid-70s

and he was produced still well, but like a more of a giant of today, you would have

one of the biggest attractions you could possibly imagine.

Because he, psychologically, he knew how to work.

He could go up for a fucking slam.

He could do all that shit.

And he wasn't broken down enough yet that you couldn't get him over to an audience that had never seen him before.

By the time he was broken down in real life, he was already such a big name.

It was just like, oh my God, Andre's here.

Not to say he wasn't a big star and not to say he didn't have great success and everyone knows his name.

But why do you think Vince got it so wrong with the big show?

Because everyone always pointed to Andre and say, Vince knows how to promote a giant.

If there's anything Vince McMahon knows how to do, it's promote an attraction.

Do you think it was just the nature of the times and how fast everything happened and the booking?

Or do you think Vince

maybe didn't have that?

Didn't have, I don't know.

Why do you think the big show was never presented as being extra special as a giant like Andre was, even though he really was?

Well, or at least it didn't come across that way.

Am I really angry with this question in any way that makes sense?

Do you know what I mean?

Yes, yes.

Big show didn't dominate the business in his era like Andre did in his.

And part of it, Vince McMahon,

he knew how to get a giant over because he had watched his father do it.

And yes, you know, stand Andre on a box for the fucking interviews and everything.

Vince Jr.

knew that.

But Andre was a project of not only Vince Sr., but a lot of the major promoters who worked in conjunction because they had this big drawing card to not fuck it up.

And

at the same time, as I mentioned, Big Show didn't have a lot of experience.

When he, his WCW run, they weren't anxious to teach him a lot, whether it be physically or psychologically,

about the business.

Although, I will say they presented him better, I think.

The giant I felt as a fan during that era meant more in WCW and was more of a big deal

than he was as Paul White and then the big show pretty quickly within weeks of WWE, they kind of took him down a few notches.

Yes.

And that's because again,

you know, they knew they were getting a guy that had, and I've told a story, Larry Sharp had found Paul White and brought him to a fucking Dennis Coraluzzo show that I was at at one time, I think.

Yeah.

And it was the 94 NWA convention in Cherry Hill.

Yeah.

Okay.

And he said, I said, my God, look at this fucking guy.

He said, I'm having his first match next month.

And I said, get me the tape, send it up to the office.

I guarantee you he's got a contract.

I just need, give it, give me that to show Vince and boom.

And WCW, Hogan, found out about him.

And he never had that match, I don't think, for Larry.

They just signed him and kept him undercover and debuted him on pay-per-view against Hogan.

So that's what I'm talking about.

They presented him great as the son of Andre.

Yes.

They went that far and they presented him great, but he didn't have a fucking clue what he was doing.

And then when he got to the WWF, Vince got him, but then realized that he didn't really know what the fuck he was doing.

And that's how we ended up with him in OVW to make him, yes, lose weight.

They were on that kick, but also

to kind of teach him a little bit more about the fucking business in general, just by osmosis with the guys and et cetera.

And then

he had to go and get over in the WWF because once Vince sours on you at the start, you have to work that much harder to try to fucking get over and justify yourself.

So it was a rocky road.

All right, Jim, our next question sent via email to corney drivethru at gmail.com is from Bob Jackin' It in San Diego.

I have a question about Ric Flair and Irish whips.

I've noticed in his matches he almost always grabs a quick side headlock if he wants to be shot off into the ropes.

And conversely, puts himself into a quickside headlock to back the other fellow up if he wants to shoot him off.

My question is,

was the quick headlock and shoot off another chance to call spot?

Do you know if this frustrated anyone else working with him, or did Ric Flair just have a problem with Irish whips?

Let me start.

First of all, it's not an Irish whip.

When you grab someone by the arm or the wrist and shoot them off into the ropes, that is the modern day

definition of the Irish whip, which evolved from,

was was it dano o' mahoney

who was the the the top guy in boston in the 20s doing the irish whip sheldon goldberg now is screaming at me

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no he's he's screaming the name because he knows but anyway the irish whip was an irish wrestler and he would take the guy's arm and it was kind of like a judo throw where you would duck under and yank it and the guy would go over that used to be an irish whip originally but where you're grabbing a guy and throwing him by an arm loosely is an Irish whip.

But when a guy has a headlock on you and you shoot him off into the ropes,

it's shooting him off into the ropes.

And yes, that was the thing is that Flair, and everybody said this,

Flair talked very minimally,

even if he had the chance to his opponent.

Before the match, he called almost everything in the ring.

You'd have a basic finish, and that was it.

And boom, boom, boom, when you're going and

maybe he's just taking a hip toss and a drop kick, and suddenly he jumps up and grabs the headlock, and he's got time to say, one tackle, hip toss, fucking drop kick.

And boom, off you go.

So that's, yes, a headlock is a place to call a spot.

And because Flair was doing it so quickly, that's why there was no reason to fucking hang out and have a conversation over it and if you didn't get it the first time

goddamn something bad was going to happen but you wanted to you know but yeah you know one tackle drop down hip toss drop kick get it again boom off you go

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Jim, let's get another question here.

This one sent the corny drive-through at gmail.com from Justin in the AWA, WWA Crossroads of Peoria, Illinois.

Hello, gentlemen.

With talks of the Milwaukee Midget,

I was wondering who are the best working midgets midgets in wrestling history.

I thought he was going to say, when talks of the Milwaukee Midget, what about the Peoria pussy?

It feels like Lord Littlebrook was the top of workers when it came to the midgets in the glory days.

Who else was seen as a hell of a hand?

I will list some to help Jim and his aging mind not have to think so hard.

That's what it's

the fuck, Little Tokyo.

You're asking me the question there, pal.

Little Tokyo, Butch Cassidy, Cowboy Lang, the Karate Kid, beautiful Bobby.

It says Little Brooks son.

Little Beaver, Jamaica Kid, Tiger Jackson, Fuzzy Cupid, Sky Low, Low.

What did Jesus?

What didn't he just Google every midget?

No, you left off Julius Sneezer.

One of my favorite names.

And we Willie Wilson from Florida.

To uh, and what about Little Bruiser?

Remember Little Bruiser?

We see him on aew with a dark order that's right

uh

and actually little bruiser drew a sellout house in indianapolis at the expo center with they little bruiser was a little fella that looked just like dick the bruiser and they broke him in and used him long enough to get people familiar with him and It was Bruiser and Crusher and Little Bruiser versus Bobby Heenan.

Oh my God, now all I remember is Little Bruiser and Heenan, but I think it was Heenan,

Von Raschke, and Ray Stevens, I believe.

But nevertheless, that was one of the first matches.

That was 1970, what, two in Indianapolis, one of the first matches I ever saw on TV.

And of course,

Heenan gets beat by Little Bruiser, and

it was the ultimate humiliation of a manager.

Oh, we're going to have this bridget come in and beat you up.

And of course, I stole that later on, but it sold a fucking thing out.

Anyway,

originally,

going back to it, I'm not sure who

the first set of little people were that wrestled or whatever, but back in the,

I guess going back to the 50s, Sky Lolo was the name

that everybody knew as the top midget wrestler.

And at the time, the midgets were out of Montreal.

That's why

Tony Lanza, the photographer, has so many great pictures of them.

But Skylo Lowe was French Canadian, and I think Little Beaver was too.

Fuzzy Cupid,

as a matter of fact, was the top name midget before Skylo Lowe, going back probably even to the late 40s.

And I knew Little Brook.

Little Brook was a heck of a guy.

And I don't mean to say this in a bad way, but sometimes the top midget name was the, imagine this, when you know who won the pony, was the midget that was booking the other midgets.

Because by the Littlebrook era, the midgets were out of St.

Joseph, Missouri.

And even though Lord Littlebrook really was from England, he was a British native.

He had settled in St.

Joe, and that's where.

the midgets were booked out of at that point.

I think Little Tokyo lived out there.

And

Cowboy Lang was a name, and he was a heck of a worker and had a nice little gimmick.

I think he, Stacey worked with him on an independent show in California,

slapped the shit out of him, apparently with a potato, because she didn't know what she was doing.

But I think he lived in California, but he was with that group of Little Brook and Tokyo and Cowboy Lang and et cetera, during the 70s.

And then Little Brook ended up

when the midget wrestling business in general fell out of favor.

He had that run in WCW managing Rip Morgan and Jack Victory, remember?

That's right, the Royal Family.

Yes.

And he was a heck of a guy.

But that's why everybody says, oh, you shouldn't call him midgets.

Well,

every time that I would see Littlebrook, I would say, Lord, how are you?

It's all, I'm just booking the midgets.

Well, he's one.

If he didn't mind, I don't.

All right.

Well, that makes it official.

Best working midgets.

There it is.

Jim, let's get another question here.

This one was sent to corny drivethrough at gmail.com from Sam in London, England.

This is more of a logistical in-ring question.

Why is pulling the tights illegal?

And how does it give you that much of an advantage when pinning someone?

That's the question.

That's the question.

Well, pulling the tights is illegal

because it is using,

I forget how it was worded in the old, but using the opponent's gear

against him and gaining an unfair leverage advantage.

And

when wrestling was trying to be presented as somewhat legitimate, in all seriousness, if you've on top of a guy and you're trying to pin him for real and you can grab a hold of something, whether it be in the, if you've got the right leverage on a roll up and grab the tights or whatever, that does add just a teens, just a tiny bit more leverage or stability or whatever.

So it could be done.

And that's why all wrestling finishes came from small things that could be a bitch in a,

I say could be a bitch, could be a complaint,

could be an out.

could be something that turned it into a fluke, an unfair advantage.

That's where all finishes in wrestling started from to necessitate a rematch.

So pulling trunks

in the 30s and 40s could sometimes get people to come in the ring.

They would be so mad.

That son of a bitch, he had a hole in his tights.

I saw it in the 70s where people would crowd the ring and start throwing garbage in.

That son of a bitch pulled his tights.

But then it loses its effectiveness when it's done so often and so much.

And then finally people wonder because the announcers quit knowing how to call it and the boys quit really knowing how to do it.

And it's like the question we had a week or two ago when,

well, if they throw the guy on the ropes, you know, why do they drop down and all that stuff?

It's just been

now it's just done rather than

done as if it's in the spur of the moment and explained properly.

Does that make any sense?

It does make sense.

If it's something that happens and then it's not a focus of anything after the match, it's not a focus of anything after the match.

It's just the ending of the match.

That's just the way it goes.

Jim, our next question sent to corny drive-through at gmail.com from Ken.

How do other wrestlers feel about other wrestlers picking their nose during a match?

What now, which person is picking which nose?

I guess the question is about wrestlers picking their nose, what the opponent would think of it.

But I guess since you opened this door, why don't we also talk about examples where someone picks someone else's nose?

Is that what you're saying?

Yes.

Well,

I mean, if you're wrestling a guy and you see the guy picking his nose, you think, well, I guess he got a big booger in his nose.

He can't fucking breathe.

And it's better than, you know, blowing a snot rocket on the mat.

I think I'd stay away from the old test of strength, you know, after that.

But,

no, most of the time, you know, you will see in a lot of matches, guys got to blow some fucking snot out somewhere because

or in hell in a cell, Cactus had his tooth stuck in his nose.

But no, Ronnie Garvin, I've said this before, and this is not exclusive to him.

But Ronnie Garvin used to get the job guys down on Atlanta TV and fucking get them in some kind of sugar hold and stretch them.

And I saw him one just to be,

just to entertain himself, if nothing else, one week he grabbed the guy's finger and made the guy pick his own nose and then eat it.

And that wasn't a spot that was called in a locker room beforehand.

But regardless of what finger is what going into, whose fingers going into whoever's nose, sometimes mama says it bees that way.

You got to do what you got to do.

But I don't know of anybody that I ever just could remember made a habit of just leaning on a turnbuckle in a tag team match just you know with their finger fishing around

what about just general i don't even know what you would call it fiddling around with yourself

you know just picking you know be sticking a hand under your armpit or just picking yeah well you know sometimes you gotta You gotta pull the tights out of the crack of the ass or you gotta scratch the armpit or whatever.

But that, again, that's not as bad as a lot of times the old timers like to grab a head scissors and fart in your fucking face.

And that was, you know, that's how Fez got the belt.

Well, as a matter of fact, in some cases, if the tap out had been invented back then, you would have had, but yeah, the face farting was

rampant.

Andre, we just talked about Andre not long ago.

Yeah.

And that would be like a wind tunnel coming at you, but that was a thing he liked to do.

Jim, our next question sent to corny drive-through at gmail.com is from

your fan in Morocco.

There's a name here.

Sounds like a secret agent.

That's how he signed it.

And I don't know if I can read the name that's in the email here, but let's go to this question from Morocco.

Since John Cena is attempting to break Ric Flair's record, do you think Ric Flair should be a part of the build-up to the WrestleMania match?

No.

And a part of the buildup can mean anything, including just a one-off appearance on Raw, where they do something with a Helcina, obviously.

Well,

I don't know.

I think it's probably a distraction at this point.

You can talk about,

you know,

who was it?

Hank Aaron could talk about beating.

Who was it?

What record was it?

Mickey Mantle, you're the baseball guy.

Well, Hank Aaron took Babe Ruth's home run record, and then two years later, Barry Bonds took his.

Okay, well, when I was a kid, it was the big thing was Hank Aaron just beat the record that lasted for 50 years from Babe Ruth or whatever the fuck.

Babe Ruth didn't need to be there for it to be

a big deal.

I think it would be a distraction.

They've got enough on their plate with Cena having just switched.

There's the rock looms around, even though nobody wants to talk about him.

I don't know if they need to interject another legend to suck up a lot of the oxygen in the room.

Also, you don't know what kind of reaction Flair will get,

you know, because the idea would be he'd be babyface in that role because the Hilcina is the one who wants to take his record.

But if the place doesn't respond to him in that manner, you have a problem.

Well, I think they're going to be a whole lot more fucking supportive of Ric Flair than they might be Hulk Hogan, apparently.

But still, you know,

you just, never know.

Let's let's not complicate things.

We've only got three weeks, kids.

Well, Jim, perhaps Ric Flair may see what's going on with John Cena and may understand the exact amount of times he won or lost the championship, whether recognized or not, and say, This isn't true.

I am the undisputed champion the most amount of times.

Cena's not breaking any record of mine.

I'm going to sue

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But, Jim, before we get out of here, a couple more questions, and we'll get a song too.

This next one was sent.

Oh, you want me to sing?

So, what would you like me to sing?

No songs being requested, but questions being asked to be answered.

Jim, our next question sent to CourtneyDriveThru at gmail.com is from Bill O'Brien.

Considering the ratings they had and the attendances they were pulling when Cody Rhodes was with the company, do you think AEW could have maintained that level if Cody had stayed and kept his EVP spot?

Or do you think Tony Khan would have just continued to book it into the ground?

So I guess the overall question is: if Cody had not left AEW, would would it have made a major difference on AEW's business where they are today?

Would they still be kind of doing what they were doing instead of down to where they are now?

Right.

Basically.

That

it's hard to say because

Cody, as we've come to realize in retrospect, we believe was.

was miscast.

It was not a good fit.

He was trying to,

he was in the wrestling business when everybody else was in the friend business, if if you want to put it that way

you can tell by what we've heard they everybody has said oh cody was the one checking the production cody was the one talking to the tv truck you know camera angles we walk through this entrance cody had been

to the big show

and we're not talking about paul white there and he knew how things were done on a major league level and he wanted to like dusty he had that creative bug and he had that bug for

wanting to do more than just be, you know, one of the boys, whether it be the world champion or behind the scenes producer or whatever.

He didn't fit on air

because it was, you know, for all the reasons we've talked about.

So he wasn't drawing them a ton of money.

But I think you can say that his influence behind the scenes would have been more important, whether it would have been a more professional television program, whether other talent that were more serious would have been focused on instead of because they were friends with somebody, whether the CM Punk would have been able to coexist with the children, or whether what would have happened would have happened because Cody was a guy who could have been in the middle there.

He was one of the boys, but also one of the office.

He knew.

how to talk to big stars.

He wasn't like Tony Khan who was scared or the Buckaroos who were wanting to fucking move their biggest star out because they didn't like him.

He was business.

So, would he have been able to rectify that and save that?

Now, that's why they were probably laughing.

Cody and Punk, they had a clip of them on this overseas tour on Twitter laughing about something.

And they both turned out better because Punk was able to get away from there and get away from AEW early, where he could walk right into a top spot in the company when it's hotter than it's ever been.

And he wouldn't have been able to do that if the lollipop guild hadn't been kind enough to fucking bury him and scare Tony and get him fired.

And with Cody,

one has to think that he realizes, my God, if I had not made this move,

then I wouldn't have finished the story.

I wouldn't be the biggest babyface on the planet.

I wouldn't be making more money I've ever made in my life.

And

he's got to thank the Buckaroos for that because

what else could it have been that nobody ever spoke about?

The differences in how did they term it, philosophy or whatever.

Well, there you go.

So

if Cody had stayed, he would have been more important to AEW behind the scenes.

And they may be better off, but still with the

children from Kookamunga and Tony Khan being

rudderless, lost ball in high weeds, he could have only done so much.

So he's definitely prospered by making this decision.

Yeah, I mean, the problem was Cody couldn't coexist over there because you need people who will play along with you.

And at the same time, Cody was the most serious and the one who understood things the best.

He also needed to be produced.

Cody was not Cody

left to his own devices.

We got rambling promos.

We got angles that went nowhere.

I mean, the Anthony Agogo feud, the Jade.

As great as, as funny as the Jade debut is, that whole segment is a fucking train wreck.

And it was a lot of that kind of stuff.

But Cody was fighting a battle against everyone else there.

The Bucs wanted to just do their own thing.

They still just want to do their own thing.

Cody.

Now that now they don't even come to work to do it.

Cody, if he had a bunch of people who kind of had the same idea about wrestling as him, it may have been different.

But the problem was you had the Cody segment on the show, and then the very next segment was like a different company.

Remember, we used to call it the Codyverse.

It was like there was a thing happening with Cody segments, and then you'd go to an Omega match, or then you'd go to the Bucks, or then you'd go to whatever.

And it was like two different things it was the best thing for cody to leave

it was the best thing for wwe

because where would they be right now not that they wouldn't be successful i'm not saying that

but who would be the top babyface right now it worked out perfectly cody being slotted to that spot right now

worked perfectly and it never would have worked that well in aew and

I guess to answer the question, do you think AEW would be where they are today, give or take, if Cody had stayed?

Um,

I think they'd be better off than they are, but probably not by much.

Because, again, for the same reason, when we said, Well, would Gail Kim be an addition to AEW?

I don't know whether Frank Gotch and goddamn Toots Mont

could be an addition to, you know, what do you do?

We do the best.

Bring Popeye the Sailor Man, the best sailor in the world.

Put him on the deck of the Titanic 20 minutes before the water comes up over the fucking edge.

What do you?

And if Cody had stayed, he'd probably be fighting a lot more with Brandy right now.

That's the other thing.

Either he may have had a fucking stroke.

All right, Jim, let's get one more question here on the show.

And actually, before we get to that, I see some news here.

Uh-oh.

So let me ask you about this.

Soraya has announced that she has departed AEW.

Oh.

Do you think WWE brings her?

I thought that happened about six months ago.

Where's she been?

Well, she started, remember, in the summertime.

So I don't know when the contract would have run out.

I don't know if they released her.

They just let go of her brother who was under contract, I know.

But going back to WWE, should WWE, would they be interested in bringing back Paige or Soria?

I don't really.

You know, again,

their own

physician crew, medical crew is the ones that said, hey, she probably ought to quit because of her neck, right?

That's right.

I forgot about it.

She's also.

It's so funny.

It's just that I completely forgot about it.

Yeah.

So even if they said, oh, well, you know,

maybe we can clear now a new examination.

It's

a whole new girl's world up there.

And nobody really remembers.

Well, I don't say nobody.

She's been gone to the mainstream for what, four or five years now?

Because only people that watch AEW every every once in a while would know that she's even still in the wrestling business.

So

I don't know.

I mean,

we haven't seen anything of her exploits in AEW to suggest that she's ready to take a bunch of those hard-ass bumps and have those hard-ass matches that

a lot of the girls are having up there these days.

So,

eh,

I don't know.

All right.

Well, our final question here today, Jim, was sent via email to corny drivethrough at gmail.com from Ricky in Peoria, Illinois.

What do you remember, if anything, about a guy called Fantasio?

Fantasio.

He wrestled one match for Vince and was instantly gone.

I believe he was also called the Spellbinder.

I was about to say Spellbinder.

Yeah.

Fantasia.

Was it?

No, that would be Freebird Fantasia.

Yeah, that was Brett Armstrong.

Was it Fantasio?

I couldn't remember.

What was the guy's name?

Oh, oh, was it Del something?

Del some, not Del Wilkes.

That was the Patriot.

But they found this guy in Memphis.

He was big.

He had a good body.

I remember Randy Hales telling me about him.

you know, when they first found him or whatever, but he's a good body and a big guy, and he was apparently a trained magician of some description

and

so he became the spellbinder

and he was doing you know thing where he'd make the object appear i don't know what the but you can imagine a goddamn giant muscle bound wrestler that's also a magician spellbinder

and

that was

late 80s, early 90s, Memphis.

And that's when Lawler first started working,

both Jarrett and Lawler, Jarrett first, and then Lawler when they thought Vince was going to jail.

And

one of the deals they pitched to Vince because they thought that'd be right up his alley was a magical fucking wrestler.

And I don't remember that either happened right as I was just getting there, or it just happened right before I got there.

I can't remember which.

I remember him from the USWA in like 93.

I think that's around the time he first got there, but I'm reading Wikipedia.

Rios Del Rios was his name.

Del Rios.

His real name, Harry Del Rios, which I didn't know.

Rios made one televised appearance on the July 16th, 1995 edition of Wrestling Challenge.

Okay, it was way after I got there.

He portrayed a babyface named Fantasio.

Again, I don't remember the actual match.

I don't know how it's pronounced.

A magician wrestler.

He wore a black and white mime mask, which he handed to a young fan sitting at ringside.

That revealed matching face paint when removed.

He defeated Tony DeVito by sneaking up from behind and magically pulling out his boxers, allowing him to roll up DeVito for the victory.

After the match, he magically removed.

Because every wrestler wears boxers under their tights.

After the match, he magically removed the boxers of referee Earl Hebner, though he never again appeared on TV.

he did wrestle and match against Rad Radford at a house show.

Or Luis Faccoli.

That's right.

Yeah, I don't remember watching on a wrestling challenge, so I missed that week.

But

what are your thoughts on a magician wrestler in general?

I mean, you could have brought him into Smoky Mountain.

He was available for a while.

Yeah, that's,

we were fine.

Well, I mean,

I can't say that I'm against the concept of a magician wrestler, just if it's well done and it, you know,

might get over.

This was

probably not from the sound of it, well thought out.

Because I remember against Spellbinder in Memphis, I think he did things like a cane that shot fire and, you know, more

dangerous and or violent type things than pulling a fucking guy's underwear out.

So I can't say I'm against the concept entirely, but I would have, it would be cool if you had like a devilish type that, you know, he'd

throw his hand up with a flourish and his finger would catch on fire so he could light his cigar or some shit like that.

That may be spooky, depending on the individual, but I don't know about pulling a fucking guy's underwear off.

All right, ladies and gentlemen.

I magically got his underwear.

And then I magically erased the skid mark.

Well, with that, ladies and gentlemen, the drive-thru is closed.

We're erasing the skid mark?

If you want to call it that, sure.

But let's get a song before we get out of here to kick off our new song season.

Send in your submissions, CourtneyDrive-through at gmail.com.

Please send them as an MP3 or an unlisted YouTube video.

Please make it about the show, obviously.

No AI.

That's what I was going to say.

We're doing this again now.

and we're asking no Al on this because before it was getting repetitive, everybody was a goddamn musical genius.

Usually, when we go through a season of a lot of big things happening behind the scenes, we like to kick it off with new music and new musical submissions.

So, please send them in.

Corney DriveThru at gmail.com.

Let's go to one of our old favorites, Jim, Rocky the Ramon.

One, two, three, four.

I've had enough, they're really dumb.

I've had enough of these crummy scrums.

I've had enough of these crummy scrums.

Crummy scrums.

Don't say that great again.

He rambles on and it never ends.

I've had enough of these crummy scrums.

Grummy poking, grummy TV,

grummy wrestlers, grummy ratings.

Every time he opens his mouth, purple tie of media comes out.

He takes the questions from apologists.

A rambling answer is all you'll get.

I've had enough of these crummy scrums.

Crummy scrums.

Crummy scrums.

Great, great,

great, great,

great, great,

great, great.

great, great,

great, great.

Not much substance, but a lot of talk.

At least he's not as annoying as the rock.

Drinking tequila as Crummy Scrum.

Crummy, grummy, grummy, grummy, grummy, grummy, grunny, grummy, crummy, grummy, grummy, grummy, crummy scrums.

Crummy scrums.

Thanks for finishing.

Well, there it is, Rocky the Ramon, a return from Rocky the Ramon.

And there's no AI here because of the video, and I'm sure it'll be on YouTube, a split screen.

He's playing every single instrument himself.

But there it is.

He does that.

He plays with his own instruments more than anybody

I know on earth.

Well, he is the one who's.

And again, if the Ramones went to one of Tony's scrums,

that's what would happen.

But bravo, Rocky.

Well, welcome back, Rocky, and welcome back, songs.

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