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Hello again, friends.

And you are our friends, and it's your favorite good cop, bad cop show, or maybe it's cop and a half.

I'm not sure.

Welcome back to another edition of Jim Cornett's drive-thru right here on another beautiful day somewhere.

It's beautiful here.

It may not be by the time you hear this.

I'm your host, the great Brian Last, and we're going to get through this today, folks.

Here he is, the leader of the cult of Cornet, Mr.

Jim Cornette.

My foot may cop a feel up your ass there, there, pal.

Hey, huh.

What is this?

A party of puffies?

What's going on over here?

I'm all right now, but last week I was in rough shape.

You know, I tell you, hey, no,

you know, we're a day and some late recording this, folks, and I'll take the heat for this because

my birthday week was going well.

Had a wonderful birthday day.

Got so many well wishes and well tweets

from the cult of Cornet and got a nice cake and I even got to cake early as a matter of fact and and

got a papa of Murphy's take and baked pizza my favorite with double sausage bacon

uh ground beef green peppers and onions and extra cheese that was wonderful did I press my luck Brian because

So you know, I've never tried one of their calzonis.

So I got

you don't pronounce the E, Calzone.

Well, you don't pronounce the E.

I pronounce the E.

Well, I mean, you're not supposed to.

Not that you do.

You're not supposed to.

Nobody has told me every time I order a Calzone, they just go right ahead and give it to me.

Well, you just said you haven't ordered one in years, so you obviously don't know what's going on.

Now, Stacy has them.

Stacy gets them, but I don't get them because I like the pizza.

But see, I was going for a double header this week.

So Tuesday, I was going to have the pizza on my birthday, and Wednesday, I was going to have the calzone.

But nevertheless, whatever you call it, I'm not having another one because

I woke up the next morning after that at just

violently ill.

There was something going on with that calzone.

It was a calzone.

It wasn't a calzone.

It was a calzone because there was some amoebas in there.

And

it's been rough.

It's been rough.

I won't go into details for the sake of the listeners, but I've had a bad 24 hours.

Some people had, yeah, he's sick.

He's sick.

But I'm getting better, baby.

I'm coming back.

I'm going to thwart you people yet that wish my early demise.

Me, a senior citizen here in my own home, puking and pooping and

sweating about.

But I'm back, baby.

It was like a night at Vince's.

Oh, come on now.

That's what the cleanup was like the next morning.

Boy, they had to get the hazmat suits and everything, didn't they, to go in there?

He's so cleanly.

I don't understand.

But nevertheless, I'm feeling better.

We're going to try to get through this today.

I might not have the normal energy level.

But speaking of health, something has come across the human affairs desk, Brian.

So I thought I'd bring this up now on the first show after we heard about it.

Ken Cantrell.

He's having an affair?

No.

With who?

Human Affairs.

Who is he having an affair with?

Ken Cantrell?

The Human Affairs Desk.

With a human.

That's what, like my uncle Dink down at WHOP radio in Hopkinsville, he used to send the shout-outs.

to the sick and the shut-ins.

Well, Ken Cantrell, our old friend in Paintsville, Kentucky, is feeling puny,

as Christine Jarrett used to say.

And he's going to the doctor, and we wanted to wish him good

health, get well soon, good wishes, whatever I'm trying to say.

I'm still under the influence.

You know, and Ken,

one of the early tape traders, I mean, going all the way back to the first home VCRs, practically.

massive wrestling collector, sponsor of the wrestling events in Paintsville over the years, and an accomplishment.

He was on the Paintsville Volunteer Fire Department for years, despite being a convicted arsonist.

How about that?

He's a convicted arsonist.

Why would you say this about this poor man?

He's already having an affair.

Now you're already saying

fires?

Him and his mistress starting fires all over the place.

No,

Lisa and he have been married for a number of years now.

They're very devoted.

But no, that's what I used to say about him on the promos.

When Smokey Mountain would come to Paintsville, the sponsors were the volunteer fire department.

And I would be running down what a crummy town it was.

And I'd say, even that no-good Ken Cantrell on the volunteer fire department, he's a convicted arsonist.

And people around town would start, hey, Ken, you're an arsonist.

But anyway, I hope he feels better soon because we need...

That's something you want to hear around town.

Well, you know,

in a jocular fashion,

they were saying those things.

But anyway, feel better, Ken.

Feel better.

You know, years ago in the 90s, when you had no time, I was trying to get my hands on some early Freebirds stuff, and I asked you who I should talk to.

And you said, well, I have everything, but I don't have the time.

Ken Cantrell

would have it because he was a major Freebirds fan.

And I got in touch with him, and he had all the early Georgia stuff, compilations of it.

Great stuff.

And a really nice guy.

So hopefully he gets better.

Well, he can't get any worse.

Well, feel better.

I guess feel better.

Yeah, no, he's.

I understand they're going in, they're going to have to do surgery and remove his head out of his ass, and he'll be fine.

And I hope your wife doesn't find out about the affair or the fire.

Oh, come on now.

The fire and the affair.

That's a good idea.

Would it have been better if I'd have said human relations desk?

And also, some news from here in Kentucky.

And by the way, what did I say

about that I-75 shooter down there in Laurel County

that was he was in the Daniel Boone National Forest on foot, and they hadn't found him in like 10 or 11 days or whatever, however long it was.

I said, there is no way

because he abandoned his car, apparently, and he may have had guns, but he abandoned the, at least the big one he was using.

And one would imagine at that kind of getaway,

he wasn't prepared for living in the woods.

But nevertheless, I said, unless he popped up in the next couple of days trying to get the fuck out of town, he's up there, he's shot himself, or he's fallen in a ravine or whatever.

And son of a gun, what?

What are you laughing?

You said it so much more concisely and completely right.

You're like, oh, he's dead in the woods.

Oh, you just said it like it was a fact.

Like you may have done it.

No, I didn't have anything to do with it.

I wasn't even there.

But

apparently, some fucking

now, listen to this.

They've had

law enforcement teams, state police, local officials.

I don't know who all they got

apparently combing these.

God, I don't know how.

You might want to Google how big the Daniel Boone National Forest is, for fuck's sake.

100,000 acres, whatever.

And they needed to use machetes, right, to get in there.

And

these, this couple, I guess, who were live streaming on their fucking cell phone

were wandering around in the woods.

Oh, look, there he is.

But now they did the DNA test and they said it's inconclusive.

You found a fucking guy dead.

He's been dead for a little bit less than a time, and they've been looking for this fucking guy in the middle of goddamn Daniel Boone National Forest.

Nobody else has been reported missing.

How can the DNA be inconclusive?

He had a note on him that said it's not me.

Well, there you go.

A deathbed denial.

By the way, the Daniel Boone National Forest includes 708,000 acres of federally owned land within a 2,100,000-acre proclamation boundary.

The name of the forest was changed in 1966 to honor Daniel Boone.

Well, there you go.

So that's a big-ass place to be looking around or a big-ass place to be out on foot in

if you're not highly prepared.

This guy apparently wasn't Rambo.

Do you remember what the original name was of the forest?

I do not.

The Cumberland National Forest.

Okay, that makes sense because it encompasses the area of the Cumberland Gap, which, as every small schoolchild knows, is the path that Daniel Boone took to blaze the trail into old Kentucky.

Well, we've spoken about Ken Cantrell and Kentucky.

Here, I've got another

Kentucky

piece of news.

Okay.

Now,

now that they've calmed the I-75 shooter down, did you hear what happened down in Letcher County?

Letcher County?

I've never even heard of Letcher County.

Letcher County, that's all the way down there.

It's either, I think it's on the border of Western Virginia, right there near the corner of West Virginia.

But apparently

the judge just got shot by the sheriff inside the courthouse in his own chambers.

Boom, graveyard dead.

Sheriff being charged with first-degree murder.

They had an argument, is the only details they've been able to come up with.

But they did announce there's no threat to the public.

Now that the sheriff is in jail because he's a murderer, I guess.

They didn't finish that sentence, but can you believe that?

He's going to be waiting for trial for a long time.

They have to find a new judge.

Yeah.

Fuck.

Is this some Hatfield in McCoy?

I'm telling you, that's the down there in eastern Kentucky.

They're fun that way.

That's right.

And in your part of Kentucky, the police just shoot the civilians, not the court staff.

For heaven's sake.

But hey, what's going on up here in New Jersey, Brian?

Everything's nice and normal up here.

You got no...

Sheriffs murdering people.

You've got no highway shooters.

You've got no.

There was a big thing this past week because one of the two-lane areas was closed down for repaving.

They repaved all the roads to make everything nice and smooth, but it caused some traffic for a day or two.

So a lot of people were up in arms.

That's terrible.

Well, they ought to be up in other people's arms.

It would be difficult to hold yourself up with your arms.

I sound like Groucho Marks now.

Yeah, my gardener no-showed for a week because of it.

He said, I can't get to your house.

Damn his eyes.

My gardener's next door.

How come he got to that house?

Well, he got in before they stopped everyone.

Well, whatever.

so that's the exciting world in new jersey ladies and gentlemen they close our bridges here all the time for with almost no notice back and forth that's a you're you're just talking about minor inconveniences you know what a minor inconvenience is going to be brian

uh no i i do not know this no a minor inconvenience is going to be If you don't take advantage, you being the royal you out there in podcast land, of the big big holiday sale at jimcornet.com beginning Saturday, October 5th at noon Eastern.

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And do not

make me look like a Bret Hart caricature on a

chalkboard in the middle of a goddamn rec center somewhere in Scranton.

He used to be quite profane with some of the cartoons he would do of people.

I still have one that Lawler did of me one time.

We got to send him a couple of these figures to draw on.

Well, that's that's all right.

He's he's doing well.

He can buy them at half price.

But Lawler did a caricature of me one time.

We're sitting in a locker room in Evansville.

There's nothing to do.

Obviously, there's no internet, cell phones, all that stuff.

And it's Evansville, right?

He said, hey, let me draw you.

He's got a fucking napkin from the

concession stand.

He's got a big ballpoint pen.

He said, Let me draw you.

He said, Hold still for a second.

He did like two minutes.

He does this thing on this napkin.

I can't see it, but I'm sitting there.

And he said, Okay, I'm finished.

You know, he's what an artist he is.

And he turns around and he's drawn a perfect caricature of my hair and head and glasses and nose.

And then I have a giant dick and balls hanging underneath

with a jacket and a shirt and a tie underneath the scrotum.

It was so artistic.

I've framed it and kept it to this day.

Oh, that lawler.

Well, that crazy kid.

Anyway, what do you got going on here?

There's not a lot going on.

They recently repaved the road and there was a lot of people.

I think you mentioned that.

I'm talking about on your program we're supposed to be doing here.

I'm supposed to be the one that's out of it and have no energy.

People were up in arms.

That's what I'm talking about.

But we have lots of things to talk about today, or, you know, on the surface, I would think we do.

But we'll see what we're going to talk about.

Now,

in the midst of your delirium, and I got to hear more than I needed to, I mentioned to you that there was only one thing I thought worthy of your time from Raw.

which I thought would A, get us around reviewing the entirety of Raw, but B, actually focus on something I thought was a really strong segment.

I built it up pretty big to you.

Let's find out what you think.

Well, yeah, and in a roundabout way, you're talking about the Raw from Monday night, September 16th, which opened

with

Lock Mussolini.

I was afraid I'd poopy.

But no, the opening, let's just stop it now.

The opening

segment was our friend CM Punk doing a promo because this thing with he and Drew McIntyre will never be over.

But first,

they did the thing, and again, these they're artistes now.

And I think AEW is trying to copy it slightly where they have the guys that started the show walking in the building.

It didn't exactly look the same as like when they do it in the WWE, but

they did the shot where

Punk pulls into the garage in his car, and they have a long single camera shot

where he walks all the way through the back through gorilla with a game face on.

He's focused, and straight through Gorilla out onto the stage and through the curtain.

And

this time, there was he was slow, he was deliberate, there was no celebration going out there, wasn't firing people up.

He gave up the big end, and he still had a big entrance, but he gave up up the big, I'm excited entrance for the issue

because he's fucking highly pissed, right?

And he took his time starting because they had the CM Punk chants going and the cheers and blah, blah, blah.

And

he kind of said what I said at the beginning of the program with you, I thwart all you people who wish my demise.

He says, even if some of you may not like it, depending on how you feel about it, I've got way more matches in me than some people think.

And there was bigger chance at that.

And he did a serious promo.

And the thing is,

at least he bothers to try.

This was a promo that could have worked again

on Territory TV 40 years ago or whatever when you didn't admit or act like or intimate in any way, shape, or form that this was not a legitimate fucking issue and you hated a guy, right?

It was refreshing to see

a wrestling promo on a wrestling show.

And yes, some

probably the AEW fans, that small segment of society, will say, oh, everybody knows that this is a work and he just well, but the thing is, I know it's a work when I go see De Niro

in a fucking movie or Pacino or any of those other O's.

But I don't expect them to, in the middle of the bank robbery or the dramatic scene or the goddamn big reveal,

turn and wink at me to let me know that it's a movie.

So he did a promo.

He went over his history with Drew McIntyre.

It should have been over, but I'm too stubborn.

And Drew McIntyre's mistake is not getting the job done.

And then he said, you know, he said he had more matches in him, but he said, how many hell in a cell matches do I have left?

Honestly, zero.

And my sister and my wife asked me not to do this.

And the people started rumbling because they thought he was going to back out of it.

And then he said, so please allow me to tell you why I'm going to do this.

and got a big pop and got the punk chance.

And the only way that this is going to end, it's going to be over, is hell in a cell.

And he can't promise McIntyre that he'll kill him because I don't make promises I'm not 100% sure I'm not going to keep.

But he promised him that he's going to make him bleed and you're going to have to kill me.

And then he finished up with,

I'm prepared for this to be the end of CM Punk.

If you're prepared for this to be the end of Drew McIntyre, I'll see you in hell.

And it was a straight fucking serious promo to build interest in what is

pretty much acknowledged to be their top

rivalry of the year.

And even if everybody knows, well, they're not really fighting or whatever the fuck he meant it.

And he was the De Niro or the Pacino

or the Matsumoto or whatever in the fucking piece

so I know you liked it but did you think I would like it because of what that I just said that I liked it for well I thought you would like it because of the change of tone and was a necessary change of tone because of the pace and the way they've been doing this whole thing and the injuries and the attacks I thought it was one of his strongest promos since he's returned

What did you think?

I guess it's a minor thing, but it stood out to me.

The use of the word kill.

That's like one of those words you would never hear under Vince McMahon.

Yeah.

And normally they would even tell you not to say that

in the territories because, well, nobody believes we're going to kill anybody.

But here's the thing.

He didn't say he was going to.

He loopholed it to where it worked.

I can't promise I'm going to kill you because I don't make promises I'm not sure I can keep.

But But you're going to have to kill me to beat me.

Well, and that tells me it sounds like Punk thinks he's going to win.

But nobody's going to die, but the word was there.

And it just, again,

you can be serious on the wrestling program because you're insulting people's intelligence in my mind.

If you go out on the goddamn wrestling show

and are unprofessional enough to wink and nod and giggle and do the funny stuff in the middle of what's supposed to be deadly serious.

And that's why the other Jackovs can't draw any money because nobody takes anything seriously except people falling through furniture,

which gets old and is

miscellaneous people.

We don't.

Wow, who took the best table bump last week in AEW?

I don't know, there are seven.

But you remember something like this because he was serious and he's a star and it's a big deal.

So I liked that.

And then Wade Barrett quoted the devil went down to Georgia.

I didn't, well, he's from across the pond, but I guess he's been here a number of years, hadn't he?

I guess so.

I mean, he worked for Florida Championship Wrestling or NXT, whatever it was, and that's in Florida.

So you got to think someone was listening.

Yeah.

They're big Charlie Daniels fans down in Florida.

Because every once in a while, when the devil was in Georgia, he'd stop down for a vacation in Florida, go to Disney World.

Anyway, this is your program.

Well, that was all you watched on Raw.

Yes, it was.

And that's why I had a happy birthday.

And again, to summarize, you thought that was a very strong segment.

Yes, I did.

I give that one a 10.

It was easy to dance to it.

It had a good beat.

If you had to place a wager going into it, how good it would be, do you think you would have gotten that correct?

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Nothing at all.

Can you bet on field goals?

I would assume so, yes.

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Possibly.

I would assume so, yes.

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I assume so.

Yeah.

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It wasn't loud enough the first time.

We are in the future.

As if you didn't know.

You think it wasn't loud enough?

Oh, you're still here.

Yeah, I decided to come back.

Well, we had to take a brief break for a telephonic conference in our busy lives.

And now we're back to continue with the program.

But the people have missed absolutely nothing.

I'll say, but we're back, ladies and gentlemen.

It's your show.

It's my show.

And we have gone off in various directions.

We've talked a lot about Kentucky and, of course, Raw, a little bit about Raw.

But Jim, let's stay on the topic of WWE before we move on.

Last week, we reviewed the debut of SmackDown on the USA Network.

Not like Fox, not a broadcast channel available everywhere.

USA Networks, first WWE SmackDown.

What did you think?

What did you think the ratings were?

Have you paid attention to what the ratings were?

I guess is is the question.

No, I haven't heard because you were supposed to send them to me and you didn't do it.

And then I poisoned myself and I've had other things going on or coming up or coming out or whatever.

So I'm going to, like possibly many of the listeners, I'm going to be surprised here to hear what they were.

But it was the debut on USA.

It was heavily promoted.

Cody and Solo, that cage match, the big angle, Roman Reigns.

They dropped the cow.

They put everything on the line there.

What were the numbers?

Let's go to the numbers, and they're interesting.

I hadn't really looked at them before, but WWE SmackDown's USA Network debut Friday, September 13th, 2024, 8 to 10 p.m., but I think it was 10.05 p.m.

On average, watched by 1,723,000 viewers.

Okay,

so that is what they've been doing.

2 million or thereabouts, 2.2 on Fox, its network, it's broadcast.

But that is comparable

with the raw numbers of late, is it not?

Or close to.

For comparison's sake, let me pull up the most recent raw numbers I have here.

Jerk them on out.

September 16th, so just a few days after that, Raw on Average was watched by 1,509,000 viewers.

Whoa, so it beat Raw.

And on a Friday night where, you know,

the old folks say that the young folks like to go out on friday and saturdays and let me just pull up last week's and again these were compiled by wrestlenomics

last week was september 6th on fox it was the final fox episode the average viewership was 1 million seven hundred and seventy thousand viewers oh okay so the last time

Honestly, we paid close attention to the SmackDown numbers were closer to after WrestleMania and King of the Ring and stuff when they were doing some big shows.

So it settled into the high ones potentially.

Well, it's very interesting.

I'm reading the notes here again.

This is the September 6th episode on Fox.

It was the lowest number and the lowest key demo since December 29, 2023.

Oh.

WrestleNomics noted, AEW Collision ran head-to-head on TNT.

with an average of 157,000 viewers.

Oh, Jesus Christ.

SmackDown was number one in the key demo on broadcast as usual, despite delivering the second least watched episode in its five-year run on Fox.

The only episode lower was the best of that I cited before December 29, 2023.

So that was just that lame duck show, and

people decided to go to the all-night gas station.

So by and large, they had the same amount of viewership on the USA Network debut than

they had on the final Fox episode, off by what?

50,000 viewers.

Well, that's a pretty seamless transition.

Now,

where will it settle in?

Do you think everybody's going to migrate over eventually?

Or was this a, oh, we got to watch the debut, but then, well, we don't want to watch it anymore because it's on a different network?

That doesn't really make sense.

Well, we'll see because, again, SmackDown's always been pretty consistent.

And they're really good at holding their viewership.

But they were also on broadcast TV and there has to be some kind of drop off if you go from broadcast to cable still in 2024.

With that said, and we'll talk about a few of the quarterly hours here.

Looking at the trend line that WrestleNomics has,

it is significantly off the overall viewership from Fox, which, according to this trend line, was around 2.2 million give or take each episode.

But the key demo is not that far off.

And at times, the key demo actually is somewhat equal to the other one.

So we'll we'll see.

I guess it all comes back to you have to have a hot show.

You have to have a good show.

And you would think with less commercials like they had on Fox, it gives you more of a chance to have a better show.

And that was already a good show

for WWE fans.

Well, that's

I couldn't have put it better myself, whatever it was you just said.

They opened 8 to 8:15 p.m.

quarter one with Triple H's introduction.

And the Cody Rhodes versus Solo Sokoa cage match beginning.

1.56 million viewers.

And for the record, 713,000 in the key demo.

So the key demo is as big as AEW's overall viewership.

Oh, good lord.

But also, so they started with 1.5 with their average of 1.7.

They're going up, aren't they?

Quarter two, continuation of the cage match, 1.78 million, 815, 830.

1.75 for more of that match in the angle.

In quarter three, they have a women's segment, Mee Chin versus Piper Niven, continues into quarter four,

as well as the Kevin Owens and Ricky segment.

That's 1.7 million.

So once they got above that, it's almost like the opposite of the Big Bang theory thing.

They got held down by the first quarter, and all of a sudden it popped right after that.

Yeah, people realize, oh, shit, we're over on USA

this week, and oh, shit, there's a cage match with Cody and Solo, and they picked up

more people in quarter two than AEW

losually uses

usually loses in

quarter two and quarter two matches the nine o'clock hour quarter five nine to nine fifteen p.m.

which was again that Kevin Owens Randy Orton tag match

1.78 million drops down to 1.72 for Nia Jax's segment drops all the way down to 1.67 for Andrade versus Carmelo Hayes.

That's not surprising.

9.45 to 10 p.m.

And again, there's a a five-minute overrun.

Quarter eight, the post-match of LA Night with Carmelo and Andrade.

Bianca, Jade, Nia, and Tiffany backstage.

Roman Reigns' entrance and the start of his live promo, 1.8 million viewers.

Five-minute overrun, Cody Rhodes and the Bloodline come out, 1.81 million.

So they came back and finished at the high point for Roman Reigns and Cody Rhodes and the Bloodline story.

They also peaked with the key demo.

Quarter seven, again, Carmelo versus Andrade, 687 in the key demo.

Quarter eight, 783.

791 for the overrun.

So

they did not lose audience during this show.

They started at their lowest point and kept building.

It's the way it's supposed to be done.

I always thought that was, I've always heard that's the way it used to be.

What's that Carly song?

That's the way I always heard it should be.

i'm not a big carly simon fan i couldn't tell you hey you're the one she was singing about

you're so vain that was warren beatty or was it mick jagger or was it ryan o'neal i'm not sure who it was you probably think this podcast is about you no this is jim cornette's drive-through i'm just yeah but you're the host of it oh but you're the star of it you're the star both our faults earth revolves around a star as you know

Well, those were the SmackDown ratings for the debut on USA.

Jim, let me ask you about a real world story before we get to more wrestling.

Yes.

Have you been following the story of Dave Grohl releasing a statement announcing that he is a new father from someone outside of his marriage and that he's going to do everything he can to make it up to his family?

Have you been following this at all?

No, I have.

What?

Why would I be, am I a member of the Dave Grohl fan club?

Why would I be following Dave Grohl and his sordid

family of soft white rock stars I didn't think that I thought this was right down your uh he's way too new for me way too new I know he's done something with somebody somewhere where what was he famous for nirvana

yeah one of those new bands I don't that's too modern for my taste well what are your thoughts on what he was in something else though wasn't he after

the foo fighters oh now I've always been in favor of the fighting of foo they are the weakest softest

corporate rock garbage band.

But there's too much foo in the world.

If people are going to fight the foo,

I'm spitting all over my microphone.

If people are going to fight the foo, I believe we should follow them in their fighting of foo.

Well, I have an article here from the New York Post in the celebrities column.

Why did he feel the need to tell the world that he's fucking around on his wife?

Well, the statement...

Inseminating strangers at random.

The statement he released on Instagram stated, I've recently become the father of a new baby daughter born outside of my marriage.

I plan to be a loving and supportive parent to her.

I love my wife and my children, and I'm doing everything I can to regain their trust and earn their forgiveness.

We're grateful for your consideration towards all the children involved as we move forward.

All the little children of the world.

Well, then, why is he embarrassing his wife and children by telling the entire world that he's been fornicating with some mistress and has procreated some progeny?

Well, that's the thing.

What causes someone to go public with a statement like that?

Is he trying to get ahead of something, a lawsuit, a story, whatever?

It sounds like he was trying to get ahead and it went wrong.

I love my wife and children.

I'm doing everything I can to regain their trust.

How about keep it in your pants?

Start with that.

Now that I did all this stuff, I need to ask for forgiveness before I do it again.

Well, as long as people forgive him, then that's the most important thing.

And by the way, he can also tell people that his wife has pimples on her ass to regain her trust.

Well, apparently she's spending a lot of time with her tennis coach now.

I guess that's the move.

Wait a minute.

How old is this Gruel fellow?

Dave Gruel, Dave Grohl, is 55 years old.

His wife, 48.

55 fucking years old?

He's having a baby?

Well, he's not having a baby.

He's caused someone to have a baby, but Jesus Christ.

Well, I'm sure it must have been a Mensa candidate that he was with on the road.

So maybe this will all work out for the best.

But there's the real world news about Dave Grohl.

Well, thank you for bringing that up.

I must admit, I've never liked his music.

But, Jim, let's go now to the wonderful world of AEW.

Oh, boy.

And before we talk about dynamite, I guess we should mention, and it's kind of weird to even bring it up anymore because we've talked about it at length.

And we're in this weird hanging period where everyone's waiting for what we expect to come.

And you know what they say?

Waiting is the hardest part.

But we've gotten to the point now where Tony Khan publicly is saying that he has 100% certainty that AEW will be with TNT, Warner Brothers Discovery, TBS going forward.

A report came out that a deal is in the works for 170 million-ish per year, and that number can move.

Well, that number could move, but it would be for AEW programs twice a week on TBS, TNT, and True TV,

which makes people wonder, are they going to drop one of their low-rated shows?

Are they going to be having replays on True TV?

How exactly will that work?

It appears, as we've said before, a while back that we thought it was coming.

It appears the deal is coming, but no one knows exactly what it is.

So I guess I don't even know what I'm asking you.

Well, and also that figure that you gave has been extrapolated by some among them.

Uncle Dave Meltzer has weighed in on this and written a dissertation.

But people are getting that number from what

I was already sick from the food poisoning and then trying to read Uncle Dave's reporting on this gave me a headache and made me question my sanity because it's a word salad.

But

they're saying it's supposed to be double the current figure, but nobody can establish how they're figuring the current figure.

Can you figure that out?

Because are they doubling the original deal, or they're doubling a deal that they had, or the prior number, or before they escalated the contract, or when they added the TV show, but you can deduct that because that's half a, it's

insane.

And

all we know is they're supposedly, and here's another thing.

They don't, you don't know

whether the pay-per-views are figured in or some kind of streaming.

What are they buying?

Are they buying more for

from AEW for the larger amount?

Or is it for the same thing?

Or what's involved?

Nobody knows.

Yeah, Tony has 100% certainty, but we have 0% clarity on any.

And

Uncle Dave, in long paragraphs, single-spaced, with a lot of numbers and some various speculation, did a page and a half on it.

But

here's the closing statement

in Uncle Dave's dissertation on the new AEW TV rights fees and what it may mean for AEW and this and that.

And he was very, very complimentary and very glowing through much of it.

But finally, he says,

put succinctly, for a promotion to have major popularity, it's still about making stars and having the exposure where they are seen as stars for enough people.

It always has, and even today,

it still does.

Yeah.

What the fuck?

That sounds like Oscar Gamble.

You know, a lot of people don't think it be like it is, but it do.

Examine it.

It always has, has, and even today, it still does.

What the fuck?

Well, that was succinct, wasn't it?

It was succinct.

Yeah, that was succinctly put in the most tortured syntax

of, but, you know, a lot of people don't think it'd be like it is, but it do.

Every week, Dave's writing turns more and more into Captain Beefheart.

I swear to God.

You don't know where the fuck he's going.

It's almost like Lano writing on the side of the envelope crossways and around around continued on back that was one of his mentors but you know to circle back the the idea the tv deal is coming like you said

tony's a private company they are a public company so we will find out details but no one knows exactly no one knows exactly what percentage of aew warner brothers discovery has an interest in

No one knows.

Well, and a lot of people don't talk about it very often, but we established that sometime back from Tony's words, the things that he had said, that they have some interest in the pay-per-views or had some interest and are,

I guess, going to continue that in some fashion.

But there's no,

they don't have any voting power in the company.

My God.

Tony Kahn is actually the only one with voting power for AEW.

Well, yeah, because if they opened that son of a bitch up to votes, it would look like fucking a South American country.

But

that's the point is, are they

Ecuador would be good for one.

Are they

including any kind of rights of the pay-per-view into a streaming thing where it's guaranteed or blah, blah, blah, or whatever.

We don't know what they're buying and what they're paying.

See, Tony has three big things.

You know, if you look, take away his booking and everything.

If you just look at like a businessman and the assets he has, he's got the the TV shows

and whatever audience they could bring with them.

He's got the pay-per-views and he's got the archive.

So that's why a lot of people have said, if this does not come with a max component, it's not the win it could be because you still need to house all that archival content and make money off it.

Right now, it's not being monetized correctly.

Even their YouTube stuff, if you know a little bit under the hood about YouTube, I don't think they're correctly doing that.

So, I mean, there's an issue with where and how the archive is monetized and where it'll be.

And then with the pay-per-views, too, right now it's

on regular pay-per-view, it's on Triller, whatever the hell that is, it's on the Zone, it's on BR Live.

If it was just on one streaming service, that would be a major benefit to AEW.

That's

also right now, where if you want to see all in 2021, where do you go?

For me,

I don't mean just you

loyal you.

Well, I don't know where anyone else would go, but for me, because I purchased that one live on BR Live, I could still access it, I believe, through that website for as long as that deal exists between AEW and them.

But I mean, no, what if you didn't see it?

What if you're a new fan and you say, well, I like this horse shit.

And I want to watch all the pay-per-views that they've done before I figured out that this was a thing.

How do you do that?

I don't know if you can.

Again, maybe on one of those sites like Triller or Dazone, they have the archival pay-per-views.

They certainly don't have all the archival TVs.

Because you used to be able to buy the DVD and have it on your shelf, no matter how old it was.

And now with the WWE

network slash peacock, you can go there, but AEW stuff just sits somewhere.

See, that's the other thing, too.

You know, and again, a lot of it relates to whatever existing deals you have for an AEW or WWE or anyone, but the idea of just selling direct downloads to replace DVDs, Blu-rays, VHS, everything else that came before it, it's not really been exploited enough.

Because

people want to keep what they want, even if they'll watch it on a streaming service.

At WrestleMania, if you could buy a high-definition...

the rights to having a license, I guess you should say, to having that digital file, people would pay 60 bucks for that after the fact, after they already watched it, but they don't really do that.

And they should.

I would.

Well,

then you need to go in there and tell them how to do these things.

No, I don't know if we get along.

That's true.

Some of those people I've heard are quite hard to deal with.

What do you think AEW's TV deal needs to be for it to be a win?

Now, again, a lot of people are just focusing on.

If it's $170 million, let's say.

Dave Meltzer's big thing is they are now the second most profitable wrestling company in history.

And Dave's done that, which is a ridiculous way to look at it considering inflation and everything else.

Well,

but even then, they've spent more money than any wrestling company ever in the history of ever to

this point.

And the spending is going up.

That's the other thing.

As WWE free agents become available, the spending is going to have to go up.

And as Tony wants to retain the talent he has who want to go to WWE, he's going to have to double and triple salaries.

The spending is only going up.

It's not going down.

Well, but also, whose word are we taking that?

Didn't we establish or from best guesstimates that have been out there that he's paying a hundred million dollars a year just for talent

and renting NBA-sized arenas and staffing them and doing a full television production twice a week?

And

who knows what else?

So

the point is the incredible amount of money being spent.

And Dave is thinking, and he's trying to proffer that theory to the world so more people will think it, that, oh, well, now

that means this will wipe away all the first five years of losses.

How the fuck?

How the fuck is even $170 million a year going to wipe out

five years of losses when they've been spending money like this?

How much money have they lost?

How much money did they lose on the video game?

Did we ever get a real number on that?

Because it's a private company.

Did we ever find out how much money they blew on a video game that everyone who knew anything in advance, like us, said was going to be a complete bomb, that it wasn't ready for the market.

And it's a disaster, that game.

We heard they were spending 50 or 60 million dollars and it was on clearance.

I don't think that was a profit, but

I'm just saying, I don't.

You can't look at this thing and go, what the fuck?

How, how,

even if you're making a profit as it exists now, how is it fiscally responsible to run these fucking massive buildings for 3,000 people?

And how is it in any way fiscally responsible?

Miro just asked for his release.

He moved to Bulgaria last year and he's been paying him since then?

I meant to ask you about that.

Hold on, let me pull up something here.

But I'm just, how many more people is he just paying that we haven't even thought of in months?

And again, how many is he paying more than current market value?

It will become market value.

Every single one of them.

Well, that's the thing.

It becomes market value as he overpays them.

And that's why people are like, oh, why is WWE mad?

They could pay these guys a lot.

They can.

But they all of a sudden have a figure, whether it's right or wrong, who is just increasing the salary structure just because it's play money to him.

That's where, if you're running a real business, it's like, what the fuck?

What is this guy doing?

We're going to have to redo our P ⁇ L.

Jim, I have something here, and several listeners have sent it over.

This is from Fightful Select.

Fightful Select Sean Ross Sapp has learned that Miro,

formerly Rusev,

has asked for his release from all elite wrestling.

Formerly wrestler.

Miro hasn't wrestled for AEW at all in 2024.

Last winning a match at AEW World's End in 2023.

We're told that Miro was sidelined longer than AEW expected after that match.

That's when he went to Bulgaria, isn't it?

Yeah.

But has been healthy for quite some time.

There was some consideration internally to use him in the AEW all-in casino gauntlet, and he had pitched working with Jon Moxley earlier this year.

Oh, good lord.

I'd like to see that.

Let's see if Moxley acting a tough guy in there with Miro.

Yeah, you know, that would be interesting now that I'm thinking about it.

Miro and AEW were unable to get on the same page creatively, something that became somewhat common for the two sides over recent years.

Miro

worked only seven matches for AEW in 2023

and has only wrestled 11 matches since December 2021.

Jesus Christ.

He said his hero is Carl Pavano.

You won't get that, but other people will.

I don't.

We've not learned if Miro was granted his release or if there's interest from WWE.

Miro is earning into the seven figures.

Jesus Christ.

Miro had signed a contract upon joining AEW in September 2020 that was set to expire in spring 2022.

However, he signed a four-year extension around that

that could still have him with AEW until spring 2026.

So there's a pretty thorough report from Feightful Select and Sean Ross Sap.

What do you think of the Miro situation?

And first of all, if that's in any way true, seven figures for this fucking clown that they brought in in a pink Minnie Mouse shirt.

And then

he almost had something going when he lost Pip Sabian and the whole thing.

And then

he was gone.

And then he's back.

The inexplicable

real-life marital turmoil that was playing out on our screen with him and Lana, what was it Tim Ross said in Four Rooms?

Whatever kind of psychosexual game you people are playing.

CJ.

And

then he's wrestled 11 times in two years, making seven figures.

I can't believe,

yes, I can, but one thing of the other of these two has not happened.

If anybody had any sense,

if Miro was getting paid a million dollars a year, if he's,

you know, maybe I ought to accept

some of these creative pitches since I'm making a million dollars a year, or actually, no, he could just go to live in Bulgaria and make a million dollars a year to sit on his big fat ass.

But if I was Tony Khan paying this son of a bitch a million dollars a year, I said, I don't care whether you like my creative.

Go out there and put the mascot over.

I like pockets.

Or I won't send you your check and you can have your release.

What the fuck?

See, that's the thing.

Tony Khan being a horrible booker has to kind of be taken out of the picture.

And again, if you're going to bring Miro back just to throw him in a casino gauntlet match, how many guys get wasted in their return like something like that?

But if he's turning down everything for years, and now they're saying that,

what was the quote here?

He has been healthy for quite some time.

So he's...

Is that mentally or physically?

There's something going on here.

And again, it comes back to unless he contractually has creative control, why isn't Tony Khan putting his foot down?

When has Tony Khan ever put his foot down?

Yeah, I mean, again, a million dollars ain't going to cause him to do it.

And the other thing is, well, let me ask you from whatever you're going to say, say it, but also from the WWE end,

if you look at all the drama with Miro and AEW and you realize it probably isn't 100% Tony Khan,

do you have second thoughts about bringing him back to WWE?

Why would they want him at this point?

Everybody they've got's over.

he lives in bulgaria he's been a problem child at the other company unless he's got some close friends there he can plead his case of complete innocence

and if

he doesn't sound he's he hasn't acted like a

stable type of individual himself remember when he was gonna come all over me on twitter like god's wrath he was gonna come to your house and come all over you yes like god's wrath i didn't know God even

engaged in that type of activity.

That's a good tag team name.

God's wrath.

Yeah, that's good.

It could have been him and Pip.

On me and CJ.

Well, somebody got some wrath out of that, but I don't.

Anyway.

What was her deal with AEW?

How much money was she getting paid by AEW?

To do what?

Nobody ever figured it out.

Exactly.

What was that whole thing?

That's what I'm saying.

How many of these people are still being paid that we have not seen?

They may may not even live upon these shores anymore.

And, you know, the other problem is this impassing the creative.

Tony has bad ideas.

Every idea from Miro is how to break up his marriage on live TV.

What's he going to do now that that's out the picture?

Yeah, this was not a situation where Jack Pfeffer was facing down Eddie Graham.

This was, oh, we've equally got some stupid fucking ideas.

We just, we want our stupid instead of the other guy's stupid.

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Well, we will keep on top of the stupid news with Miro, but Jim, why don't we talk about AEW Dynamite, which took place a few days ago?

What was it?

September 18th.

September 18th, the day after

your birthday.

You know what?

What?

I'm just thinking.

I watched this show at the same time I was eating the garlic and chicken calzoni that poisoned me.

And maybe it was this show rather than the calzoni.

I I hadn't even thought about that.

It was the exact same time and I haven't been the same since.

Wow.

They should have subtitled this program, Is This a Fucking Rib?

Well, the answer is no.

They're very serious about what they're doing.

The opening match on this program from Wednesday night, September 18th, and I forgot to even write down where they were.

And I don't know if anybody knew where they were because nobody showed up, but

the opening match was Pockets, the company mascot, with poor Kyle O'Reilly and Mark Briscoe providing

the Larry and Curly parts to this fucking Mo

against Chris Jericho with his two stooges in the corner.

And this thing took up pretty much the first 25 minutes of the television program.

And yes, I know

Jericho is a shell of himself and he's in his mid-50s and the gimmick is rotten.

But he's still a name, he's still a recognized star, he still might be

of some benefit to them in some way.

And he went 25 minutes with the comedy mascot and lost

in Wilkes-Bear, Pennsylvania.

Wilkes-Barry,

boy howdy.

Estimated attendance: 2,896 tickets distributed.

Well, that's tickets given out.

Not everybody, but they didn't have 2,865 guns in town to force people to come at gunpoint.

Anyway, any thoughts on that thing before we move along?

You know, it's been a few weeks now where for no good reason they returned to this Pockets Chris Jericho feud.

They had the really embarrassing angle with Jericho's car.

That'll probably be on the worst of AEW Volume 3 on the bus.

Now that we think about it.

Yeah, this was a big grudge match from them totally scuffing the upholstery on that fancy sports car of Jericho's with a handful of quarters last week.

This match is a great example of the problems with AEW.

Orange Cassidy,

you know, it's been five years.

I don't think anyone gives a shit anymore.

And it's something that hurts AEW more than they're willing to recognize.

Again, the diminishing crowds that go to the live shows, he still gets a pop from a smaller and smaller audience because he'll never be part of a winning team that bring people back in.

And Jericho is the opposite.

Orange Cassidy's been doing the same thing for five years.

Jericho, in the midst of the endless midlife crisis, that is Chris Jericho, has an awful gimmick that AEW fans don't like.

It's not heat when people leave to go to the bathroom and the concession stands when you're on.

That's not heat.

That's the opposite of heat.

That's we don't give a fuck.

And both these guys, the best thing for AEW with them both being far away from this TV and far away from Tony Khan for a while because

some of the people

are just the wrong people.

Jericho's not even halfway through that 10-year contract we heard he signed until he's 62.

So he's got to come up with some ideas on how to put

the guy over the Tony-dressed ass for Halloween to make the guy happy.

They'll keep paying him.

So then

there was a lot of

the plumber and Claudio and Pac and their thing.

They did a promo in the back with the ominous music where they talked in circles and they're trying to get

O Wheeler useless to defend the six-man tag team belts next week, even though he didn't agree with them for beating up Brian Danielson for whatever fucking reason.

And that was an ongoing thing that we'll come back to.

Did you enjoy the match between Hook and Tits McGee?

No, not really.

He came out.

He suplexed the guy twice or three times and

choked him out.

I'm kind of bored.

Yeah, bored may not be the right word.

I'm kind of over hook until they do something good with him.

Well, it's disappointing now because it never went anywhere, and he's been made to look stupid, and his weaknesses have been exploited rather than his strengths being exploited.

And imagine if he had Paul Heyman like Taz did.

Oh, boy.

You know what I mean?

Like, he would have found a way to not.

We've seen it, like you said, we've seen every weakness on the mic, in the ring, and of course, with the overall booking.

The whole point of someone like that is to hide all that forever.

And AEW, to me, I'm kind of over hooked right now.

Well, maybe when he becomes a captain,

See now, if Jim Hurd was around, he'd put a pirate hat on that motherfucker, have him chop his left arm off and put a fucking hook on it.

You'd have a goddamn movie tie-in.

He can make Tony Schiavone sme.

Well, speaking of smee,

did you smee the interview with Private Party?

I did.

This was the best interview I've ever seen them do ever.

And

for a moment, I said to myself, you know what?

If they're going to use this Moxley thing to give private party a harder edge and make them more serious and believable, I couldn't believe how much I liked Isaiah Cassidy on the mic here.

I thought this was great.

And

I want to congratulate the meth growers of America for, God damn, it was like a Federal Express commercial.

All of a sudden, they're blah, blah, blah.

Like, what the fuck happened here?

Apparently they knew they had to get it in before they got the shit kicked out of them later on.

Well, that's the problem with it.

It was a good promo if you were going to set them up to be a little different.

Instead,

I mean, we'll talk about it when we talk about it, but when you punch Sean Moxley and he doesn't even sell it,

like it right away, as soon as I saw that, I'm like, oh, these guys had a chance with that promo to be a little different.

And now they're just back to being flippy jobbers.

Every baby face in this company starts a fucking fight and promptly gets his ass handed to him.

You know, again, you look at AEW, five years of dynamite.

The very beginning, you looked at Mark Quinn and you said, if this guy had training, if this guy was produced, this guy could be,

I don't know if you said top star, I won't go that far, but this guy could be

money for you.

He could be money for you.

That was five years ago.

They're exactly where they were five years ago, if not worse off, because five years ago, we hadn't seen them get their ass kicked

all the time or be jobbers or be aligned with the Hardees or just just non-stop bad booking.

Or they were they were suckered by several uh crooked managers, weren't they?

They were, and again, we're five years later.

You looked at Mark Quinn and you saw the talent there.

When was the last time you remember even seeing him in the ring do anything?

So they're doing something really wrong with that.

Well, speaking of really wrong, Renee Moxley Good was with Christian Cage and his company, and they

even Christian's promos now are just kind of, well, it's the same thing he's been doing.

He's very well spoken, but we're not covering any new ground here.

But then Pip Sabian came in the room

off camera and Christian Cage tells him off.

And he said, I don't care whether your dad's dead.

Well, he was trying to talk to Nick Wayne, right?

Well, I don't know what the fuck he's doing.

Did Pip Sabian and Nick Wayne used to have a relationship?

Were they dating on Saturday nights?

What was going on there?

I don't know what's going on with them, but I think that's what it is.

He's trying trying to talk to Nick Wayne, and that's what's causing Christian to, you know, at this point, why could you even be bothered?

Every promo he does, no matter who he's feuding with, your wife is dead, your dad's dead, your mom's dead.

What the fuck?

Your company's dead.

Your fucking promos are dead.

Your gimmick is dead.

No one cares about this.

It's dead.

How did you like the tag team match with Serena and Maria against Queen Waiata and Yuka Sakazaki?

Queen Aminata, who's a very attractive woman, and Yuka, who the fans there seem to know and seem to react to.

I, you know, I needed a break

after that

long private party promo.

I needed a little bit of a break.

So I actually did not watch this match.

I must admit, I'm not really into the AEW women's division.

Well, and then we got a, did you see the Nigel McGinnis package where they actually finally told us that he used to be a professional wrestler?

We just talked about that in the review last week, and we said this was the big thing missing.

They're assuming that fans know anything about Nigel when the only thing he's ever done on mainstream TV was his Desmond Wolf or being a commentator.

Maybe it's a little too late considering the events next week.

But at least they tried.

But at least they tried.

And I thought it was a really good video.

I think they did a good job with it.

And also, when they actually, Nigel said, you know, a lot of people don't even know I was a wrestler.

Bleach your hair again.

You look cool back then.

He, you know, there is something to be said for that because you see a bleached blonde guy in this day and age, you know he's a wrestler.

But anyway, folks, we were at 9 o'clock in this two-hour program with what we have just described to you.

This is what they were airing while in the middle of a rights renewal

rambunctiousness.

So

at 9 o'clock,

here came.

Moxley the Plumber, Claudio, and Marina Schaefer

walking through that big, empty arena to the ring, and they actually,

one of the handheld shots

kind of strayed too far over to the left for a minute with one of those spotlights playing around, and you could see one side of the building was completely empty.

But well, if you notice, they came out from the empty side so that when the camera shows them coming out, you would only see the fans behind them where the fans are situated.

Yes,

it's a piece of very tough balancing act you got to do there between trying to get a shot and showing that there ain't nobody there.

But then as soon as they walk to the ring, here comes Private Party, your favorite tag team, Brian.

And they jumped Moxley and

he completely no-sold it and just they proceeded to beat the fuck out of Private Party.

They couldn't even whip the girl.

He no-sold it to an insulting degree if I was one of those guys, to be very honest with you.

Unprofessionally, to be honest.

There's no selling and then there's acting like the punch didn't happen, smirking and continuing to walk.

That was ridiculous.

That was egregious.

If I was one of those guys, there'd be a problem.

And considering that Moxley is O for life against fucking Home Depot

stock boys and fucking Kroger employees and these amateur jiu-jitsu tournaments, I have a feeling Private Party could probably handle him.

See, some babyface has to use that.

Jon Moxley, I challenge you to a grappling match.

I've seen the videos.

You can't beat anybody.

Come on, get in here and let's grapple.

Oh, well, and it went forever.

They just beat them up and beat them up, and the girls beating them up.

And then Commander ran out to help, and they beat him up.

And then the girl beat up Alex.

Poor Alex, what did he do?

And then Moxley gets a toolbox and gets a hammer and a microphone.

And which one did they have

of the private party members held down there?

Was it Quinn or was it Cassidy?

I don't even remember.

Well, whatever.

They hold the baby face immobile and he's struggling to get away.

Like, oh, let me lose, let me lose.

And he belittles him to his face and said, I'm going to give you a gift and then hit his hand with the hammer.

And then here's the thing.

I think that was Cassidy.

I think that was Isaiah Cassidy because that that was the one who cut the really good promo, I thought.

Well,

that'll teach him.

And then here comes Darby to make the big save and tackles Moxley.

And

they roll in the ring.

And Darby's still carrying his skateboard, but he's not doing anything with it.

Claudio doesn't get in the ring to help.

Schaefer doesn't get in the ring to help.

It's Moxley and Darby in the ring yelling at each other

and then staring at each other.

And then Moxley bailed out and Darby yelled at him some more.

And thanks for coming, Private Party.

Your thoughts?

Again, you know, I will go back to Private Party because I was so happy they did a good promo and then it was completely thrown away by the no-selling of them.

And then, of course, they just, for no good reason, take out his hand.

Moxley's watching too many movies.

See, that's the problem.

Because AEW has this not even part-time schedule, schedule, he has a lot of time to sit there and catch up on cinema.

And he's watching all the things that he hears about.

And he just wants to take things from movies and bring them into AEW, whether it's line-for-line dialogue or whether it's some of these things.

This stuff is terrible.

Every Jon Moxley thing in AEW has been some version of, I'm a complete badass.

I'm going to sell nothing and then just keep doing this.

It was him as a solo.

It was him with the BCC.

And now it's him with whatever this is.

Is this still the BCC?

I don't know what the fuck it is.

Yeah, so

they lost Wheeler.

A wheel came off.

Who do you put over in the match next week, Darby versus Moxley?

Winner getting a title shot.

Well,

is it actually Moxley?

It has to be Moxley, doesn't it?

Because didn't he just put a plastic bag over the goddamn champion's fucking head?

So how is Darby going to get a title match against danielson when my the

you know and remember i swear to god when i was watching none of this 10 years ago or whatever it was remember when moxley was together in the wwe with rollins and roman reigns the shield yes

and uncle dave was saying oh but the star of this group is moxley

And I was like, boy, that guy must be pretty good because I know how good Tyler Black was.

The star of the group is the guy who has the best relationship with my website.

That's what it is.

Well, there you go.

Now we have found out that what the fuck.

So, one is the

co-biggest star in the business right now, Roman and Cody.

One is in the upper echelons of stars in the business, and one is this fucking drunken bum staggering around, losing his hair in front of our eyes on TV every Wednesday night, making no sense and stinking to join out.

Uncle Dave can pick them.

What about the newest multi-million dollar acquisition in the AEW

basket of puppies and kittens?

Ricochet, did you see the Ricochet match?

Oh, boy, did I, against maybe someone getting equally as good a push right now?

The Beast Mortos, I believe.

Rigger Mortis.

Good old rigor mortis.

There's something so low rent about him that I like.

It just looks like a generic Luchador on a garage show.

What are those chains?

The chains on his bull mask.

There are chains hanging down on either side of the cheeks.

How can you punch this guy without breaking your hand?

See, he's smart.

Well, anyway, this.

I got a little bit of it, and

I had to get some relief.

I had to fast-forward through it because it,

I mean, it's, it's sloppy, nonsensical, aggressive parkour because you've got,

you got what you got here, but it took their new

big star Ricochet, who is, when did, what'd you say?

A couple weeks ago.

How long is it going to take him to be one of the boys?

I said about three or four weeks.

Yeah, it took maybe

quicker than that.

Yeah.

We've never seen this fucking

mantor

until two weeks ago, and it took their new big signing 15 minutes to beat this guy, and he did it with a head kick to a stationary target that didn't come close,

and then a reverse DDT slam thing.

Not even a flying ding bat off the top rope.

What the fuck was this?

There was a spot that people started sending around of Ricochet going for a kick or a stomp of some sort and completely missing.

Yes, that was the

there's the bull, the bull of the woods, baby, is on his knees with his head bent over.

And

Ricochet jumps up and is going to do a big flying stomp and came down like six inches in front of the guy's head and stomped the mat.

And the guy collapsed.

And

it 15 minutes again of this.

You know what else doesn't help Ricochet?

His promos.

Because I see that.

Well, that's the thing with him and Osprey, the more he talks, I think the less people are going to want to hear him talk ever again.

I swear to God.

Let me, we'll skip ahead because

there's something else in between.

But then the next time we saw Ricochet after the Battle of the Whiff kick,

he and Osprey were in the back challenging each other.

They're both baby faces, by the way.

Osprey is very popular, and Ricochet was presented in a way as to he should be popular, but now they're mad at each other.

And they're going to fight on October 2nd for the international title.

Boy Whoopee can't wait.

And here's what I wrote.

The longer Ricochet talks, the worse it is.

Yeah,

that's the truth.

Osprey, you can't even understand what he's saying, but at least he holds you.

Yeah,

you're trying to figure it out.

But with Ricochet, you hear it and

you're not really stirred by it.

Yeah, you're like, I hate this guy.

I don't want to hear this guy talk anymore.

He's making me not like him at all.

Very off-putting.

Well, you know, Jim, maybe Ricochet, maybe the problem is maybe.

What is his problem?

Maybe he missed that stomp.

Maybe he's talking in a boring manner, in a voice that no one wants to hear.

Maybe because he didn't get a good night's sleep.

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I think they, as a matter of fact, they get some of this stuff from a lab in Wuhan.

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That

the Brain Trust over at AEW has taken.

Because next up, they thought it was a good idea on this rotten television program to have Tony Schiavone interview in the ring hangnail Adam Page.

And I've decided that Adam Page is to wrestling promos what Helen Keller was to opera singing.

Oh.

He is just what the,

he comes again, another pretend one to be badass.

He can't carry it off.

He's not magnum TA.

He looks like he ought to be riding a big wheel instead of a fucking Harley.

He is not a cowboy.

He may be a cowgirl.

But so after Tony Schiavone mangled the introduction to this, trying to ask

Paige why he said he would be after anyone who supported Swerve, but it took him about 45 seconds to say that.

You're going to be mad at anyone behind him there.

Then Paige starts talking and doing his new bit now, since he's changed personalities.

Well, he hadn't changed personalities.

He didn't have one to begin with.

Now he's got a fake one.

Do you know Tony Shimani just stands there and doesn't even look at the, he's just holding the microphone like he's staring off

into space somewhere.

Is that supposed to convey his

indignant look?

Or what is if a guy interviewing me was ignoring me like that, I'd get mad at him and threaten him too, would you?

I mean, I don't know how many times I can go over it.

Shivani's awful at his job.

He's terrible on commentary and even the things where he holds a microphone, either hands the microphone and walks away, or he just says dumb things.

And some people there like him because he's the friendly old man version of Shivani.

I've always gotten along with Tony.

I always liked liked Tony myself, but if he...

He's terrible.

He's terrible.

And I know that, I mean, I don't know what a good announcer could do with this rotten program,

but

he's got to try, doesn't he?

Something?

When was the last time Tony Schiavone tried?

That was the whole problem with him in WCW.

He was just this empty shell, seemingly breathing and blinking.

but spitting out just nonsense all the time.

And he does it here.

Everything's the greatest.

The fans are up.

Good call.

He says nothing.

He's there because he's Tony Khan Stooge, which is the role he sought out since the beginning of AEW.

Well, and there was so much competition for that one, too.

I'm surprised he was able to play Sahai.

But anyway,

Paige then threatens Tony.

He's going to beat Tony up because Tony said good things about Swerve.

And then

Jeff Jarrett came out to save the day.

And Paige beat the shit out of him all around Ringside.

And then when security ran out, Jeff was trying to fight back and Paige fucking left.

And then Jeff said, well, I'm not going to let Paige touch Tony.

No, you didn't.

You let him beat the shit out of you.

Yeah, you idiot.

What sense did that make?

And I mean, at least Jeff was trying to show a little...

fire at the end there when

the security came in and everything.

But God almighty, every babyface.

Where's the giant?

Where's Sanjay?

Where's his whole little clique of people who don't do anything?

Why aren't they beating him up too?

Well, they ran out there to help pull him apart after he got his ass added to him.

I put money on Karen Jarrett against Adam Page.

Why isn't she going after him?

You know what?

I'll goddamn guarantee you.

I've seen her in action.

Oh, really?

Oh, quick.

One of those freak offs that you guys have?

No, come on.

I've been hearing about this.

It's in the news.

She'll ring your your bell.

Oh.

Karen could.

How much does that cost?

Stop talking like that, you guilty-minded individual.

I'm saying Karen Jarrett could kick the shit out of Hangnail Page.

I'm convinced of it.

You know what?

Problem, too, with Hangman Page is?

He may have been a sap, but he was so nice as a drunk.

He was just such a nice, happy drunk, all things considered, seeing how he turned out.

Well, see, that making you got to drink again.

Yeah, you ought to get back on the booze.

That's the thing.

They're wanting us to say this guy is now, or wanting us to think or believe that this guy is now some badass homicidal maniac who burns houses down and exacts retribution on people when he was a morose, simpering drunk hanging out with fucking comedy job guys.

for two years in his life

and then they they realized

maybe about one year and 11 and a half months too late that they'd made a mistake.

And then it's too late.

Based on the way Jeff Jarrett's been used, especially over the last six months or so, considering everything that happened with Adam Page and Swerve, is this an acceptable side thing until Swerve comes back?

Well, they've...

They've done a couple of things here lately with Jeff that made the people like him.

He's been doing the heel thing, and the people didn't want to like Jeff because he's too old school wrestling for that crowd or whatever.

So it didn't, and it was with Sanjay and the comedy stuff and the goofy pinhead giant.

And that was gaga, but Jeff can talk and Jeff can still work.

And when they had him do that interview with Danielson and started to try to give him the pep talk or whatever, people started liking it.

And you could have made Jeff Jarrett into a personality that, while his best days in the ring may be behind him, he could be a mentor, motivator, or coach

to some

needy up and can.

And I'm not talking about some fucking job guy off the bottom of the barrel.

I'm talking about coming in with Danielson, who needs a helping hand,

or coming in with another top baby face needs words of encouragement, and they get close and then

you beat up Jeff

to get heat on the match with the top baby face that he's goddamn mentoring and the guy that beat him up

and you can even have the match first because Jeff can work and he can get all these green fuckers through the shit that where it would make sense

but then they blew that within weeks to where now, okay,

he does a promo every now and then and people like and he gets beat beat up.

The fuck, you've got to establish

some

relationship, some

importance for somebody to have Jeff giving them this talking to and on their side.

And then Jeff has to show that he's still capable of standing up for himself and maybe beat a few fucking miscellaneous people.

And then the other guy has the match and he gets the shit kicked out of him in the end and the angle is done.

And the other guy,

I don't know what the fuck I'm even going through this for.

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Well, we're going to continue going through whatever the fuck it is we're talking about here.

But that was the Adam Page, Tony Schiavone, Jeff Jarrett segment.

Yes.

Go out of your way not to see that, but what else was on the show, Jim?

The main event, the six-man tag team match.

Explain this one to me, Lucy.

Osprey and Felcher and take a shit with Don Fallus against the Hardley boys and O Cody.

Okay,

they're all heels, except for Osprey, who's supposed to be a babyface, after he asked out of the heel manager's stable.

But the heel manager

and his friend Felcher

asked him to come back for this six-man tag team match.

And

but

they're all heels.

Who would give a shit about this?

It makes no sense.

What is Don Fallus's purpose there now?

Who is trying to get the heat here?

The one team is the EVPs that have been running rampant.

They're not really running rampant anymore, but nothing was ever done to make them stop running rampant.

And they pile drove

the owner of the company.

It's never been mentioned again, and except it was just for the NFL documentary, right?

Right.

And that was a big thing this week where NFL released the Day with Tony Khan thing where he had the neck brace on.

Yes.

And his idea of selling the angle was being able to do everything he would normally do, just wearing a neck brace.

Yes.

And other people...

from other teams were saying, what's going on with that neck brace?

They were making fun of him.

They were mocking him as

you would expect.

And he could hear them.

And

he even said in one of the clips, well, see if you like it.

If you get pile driven, what the fuck is the best?

And it seems like now, looking back, that he only did that for this documentary because it did nothing to help the business, nothing to build in the future weeks of television.

It was a useless, what should have been a major angle.

When was the last time it was mentioned on TV?

I don't recall.

Yeah.

I don't recall.

But the other thing in that NFL documentary, apparently they show Tony Schiavani, or Tony Schiavone, Tony Khan, Tony Schiavone's avatar.

They showed Tony Khan five years ago, like on an NFL field with his he looked normal, didn't he?

It was like another person.

It was like another person.

Not to say that if you would have sat down with him, he wouldn't have just spit out a bunch of shit like he does with everyone else.

I can vouch for phone calls.

But he, it's like night and day what the wrestling business has done to him.

It's

night and day.

Night and day.

So anyway, you had two six-man heel teams going at each other.

Why anybody would give a shit, I have no idea, except for the people who wanted to see a bunch of video game moves, because that's what this was.

Nearly a half an hour with the overrun of indyrific bullshit.

They have their own referee, the corpse ref, Rick Knox.

So

they can do whatever, the flipping and flopping, the same old shit.

I don't know there was a tag in the last five minutes of this match at least.

It's just people running at each other and doing things, and most of them look like children.

Tagashet's got a ton of potential or did have.

He's been wasted.

They didn't do anything with him when they had the opportunity.

Then they bring in.

Other Japanese wrestlers that are much worse than he is and pay him a lot more.

Felcher,

good young athlete with some kind of focus on something.

You could do something with him.

Osprey, we've said, needs to be produced, or he'll just be a video game, but the people like him and you could work with him.

And of course, we know the Hardley boys are a total loss.

And O Cody,

how long is it going to be, Brian, before people quit pretending

that this guy can move or can bump or can

he can't move.

He doesn't bump.

His strikes barely connect.

He moves like a hippo with a hernia.

And he's trying as hard as possible not to get hurt or break a sweat.

He moves like he's in quicksand.

Can you argue with anything I just said?

I've always liked Okada in New Japan when I watched his big matches, but I cannot argue that he has been a non-entity in AEW.

And despite the push and the belt and the alignment with the Bucs, he's been a non-entity.

And in the ring, he has been disappointing, at least to me, and seemingly to a lot of other people.

And the other part of the problem is, on one side, you kind of have in a perfect world, a little shot of the future.

Osprey, Fletcher.

And again, I think the more you see of him, at least for me, yeah, he does a lot of the stupid stuff everyone does because those are all the people he's around and he has no one producing him.

Who's giving him ideas?

Don Callis?

But he's got size and he's getting bigger.

He's still a young guy.

Yeah.

Takeshta, I've always been high on, and you have too, when you watch him.

He's been not empty because he hasn't been around, but they're against the Bucks and Okada.

The Bucks are dead.

I mean, they are frighteningly dead.

When you really think about the buzz they once had around them,

it's amazing to see how little anyone cares about them and how little the AEW fans care about them.

And Okada.

But it's one thing.

Once you've seen what you see, it ain't going to change.

And if you saw it in 2015, it's the same thing it is now.

It's just they're older and less interesting.

There's no potential anymore.

It used to be, oh, man, they can go to WWE or they could go to Ring of Honor or they could do this.

They could start their own company.

We're five years later.

There's nothing left.

Barely any hair left, but there's nothing left.

And Okada,

you know, at least least he shows up for work.

I'll give him that.

There's a lot of millionaires in AEW who don't go to work.

At least he shows up, but

I tuned out of this match.

And this isn't something I would have done a few years ago, even with the Bucs' inclusion.

But I didn't give a shit.

And we know that they're building towards the story with the Callus family and Osprey.

It was all about the story, not about the match.

But AEW focuses on the match, not the story.

And again,

if we knew whose side we were supposed to be on, this would be a lot easier.

You know whose side you're supposed to be on.

The one babyface on one of the six-man tag teams of Heels.

Oh, crazy.

So one wrestler in two tag teams.

Then if he gets screwed over when he's teaming up with people that are going to screw him over, then doesn't he deserve to get screwed over?

Because, you know, what do you think?

Of course, I bit you.

I'm a snake.

I just want to know if anyone has the guts, if anyone has said to Tony Conspace, you cannot book television.

Even if you you want to be the matchmaker for the pay-per-views, let someone else who's not one of the wrestlers put together the television show.

The TV never does them any favors.

And that's the whole job of the TV.

I bet you that probably the only person ever told him to his face that he was a rotten booker is currently one of the biggest stars in the WWE.

Which one?

Well, and that doesn't even narrow it down.

Either punk or Cody, probably punk.

I don't know if Cody would, Cody just probably wanted to just get the fuck out of there before he got any on him.

And yes, I love you all, but I must go.

It was very bad at the end, but the thing is, Cody's very diplomatic.

Punk is not diplomatic, especially if you're going to be the one fucking him over.

Yeah, so I'm pretty sure Tony's heard it, but he doesn't listen to

competent sources.

So the Bucs are dead.

Okada's dead.

The Osprey Fletcher callus thing is something.

And of course, you got the Osprey Ricochet match, which they're determined to do very, very soon.

Is that next week?

I think they said two weeks.

Two weeks, two weeks.

Coming out of the tag.

Got to give it a big, long build.

Well, that was AEW Dynamite.

What were the ratings on this fiasco?

Were they dead?

Let me pull up the ratings here.

AEW Dynamite, September 18th, 2024, 8 to 10:06 p.m.

on TBS.

On average, watched by 687,000 viewers.

Oh,

all all right, so they're back under seven.

And just for comparison's sake, because we've talked about it before, I just want to see if I could pull this up rather quickly.

The day before, NXT on USA, September 17th,

8 to 10.07 p.m., on average, 677,000 viewers.

So

10,000 people difference now between the developmental program and their A-show.

And they're building NXT up in the weeks before it goes to broadcast TV.

Punk in Chicago, week one, Orton in St.

Louis, week two.

That could be very interesting.

Well, let me go to the quarterly hour breakdown, Jim.

These were compiled by WrestleNomics.

Quarter one.

And noted trainer Thurston Howell III.

Quarter one, Chris Jericho versus Orange.

Cassidy with picture-in-picture ads.

782,000 viewers.

Okay, now they didn't start again as strong as some some weeks, so that means they don't have as fur to fall.

But I would say this thing had to run off at least 50,000 viewers in the first 15 minutes, don't you?

Well, we will find out quarter to 8:15, 8:30 p.m.

The continuation of Jericho vs.

Pockets, the Pac-Claudio Moxley backstage promo.

Wait, Pac really disappeared when they all came out.

The Wheeler Utah backstage promo,

and Hook vs.

JD Inc.

724,000 viewers.

Okay, it wasn't 50, it was 58,000 that they lost.

Well, we go now to quarter three, 8:30 to 8:45 p.m.

The post-match of the hook match with Undisputed Kingdom, Private Party's backstage promo, an ad break, The Patriarchy's backstage promo, and the start of Queen Aminata and Yuka Sakazaki versus Mariah May and Serena Deeb with picture and picture.

You know, give them credit.

At least they're fun names to read.

682,000 viewers.

Apparently not fun names to watch, though.

There went another 42,000 people.

So they're down 100,000 even

in the first 45 minutes.

Well, we're going at a quarter for 8.45 to 9 p.m.

The continuation of Amanata and Sakazaki versus May and Deeb.

the Mina Shirakawa promo,

an ad break, Nigel McGinnis's video, and the Jon Moxley, Claudio Castignoli, Marina Shafia, Private Party, and Commander live angle,

674,000 viewers.

And it continues to fall.

At least that was only 8,000.

That's kind of...

Normal bathroom break kind of thing, but nobody's clamoring to come back in.

Well, we go to the big 9 o'clock hour, 9 to 9.15 p.m.

The continuation of Moxley and Claudio and Marina and Private Party and Commander and Darby and their live angle.

A Jack Perry video that was nonsensical.

We didn't even talk about that.

Oh, I skipped over that because I saw that fucking bus and I said, ah, fuck it.

And the Ricochet versus Beast Mortos match with picture-in-picture ads, or the start of it.

715,000 viewers.

Also, the high point in the key demo, 330.

So they got back up over 700,000.

That's 26.30, so 41,000 people at the top of the hour.

But it doesn't look from their average like they were able to keep them.

Am I predicting correctly?

We will find out.

We go to quarter six, 9:15 and 9:30 p.m.

The continuation of Ricochet versus the Beast Mortos.

The Hangman Adam Page video.

An ad break and the Hangman Adam Page live promo, the start of it.

661,000 viewers.

Good lord.

All right.

So there went 39, 49, 54,000 people or

basically more than they just gained.

That's the low point of the show so far.

We go now to quarter six, 9.30 to 9.45 p.m.

The Hangman Adam Page Jeff, is this quarter six?

No, this is quarter seven, excuse me.

Quarter seven, yes.

Hangman Adam Page Jeff Jarrett live angle, the Ricochet Kyle Fletcher backstage angle, an ad break, and the elite versus Konosuke Takesha, Will Ospreay, and Kyle Fletcher,

641,000 viewers.

Wow, the main event starts and they lose 20,000.

Well, we go now to quarter eight.

I remind you, we have a six-minute overrun.

Quarter eight, 9:45 to 10 p.m., the continuation of the Elite versus the Callus family with picture and picture twice,

637,000 viewers, six-minute overrun

627,000 viewers.

Damn, they lose.

Again, they've killed Modern Family.

So they went

from the start of the program at 782,000.

They lost 141,000 from there to the start of the main event.

And the main event lost them another 14,000 people.

And again, ever since this overrun issue came up with Dave Meltzer really trying to spin it, that it's a positive thing and that it's the responsibility of the fans to keep track of it.

It seems like the overrun's always down.

Now, we just saw on SmackDown the opposite.

They started low, or at least at their low point, and the show kept building.

Yeah, you get a bump at the nine o'clock hour.

That's your job to try to win people over at that time.

They did, and their overrun went up.

AEW, every week the overrun goes down.

And it was the Brian Danielson-Swerve-Stricklin feud.

And now it's the stuff with the Bucs.

And Will Ospreay, who's, it seems like whenever they have the top babyface in the company in something at the end of the show, people don't watch.

It's every week.

Well, another case, so there you are.

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Well, and you also, you don't need to put a razor near your neck when you've been watching AEW on television.

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Well, Jim, speaking of close shaves, let's talk about some other topics in wrestling, and of course, outside of wrestling, too.

One of the ones that I guess because you've commented on it in the past, and also it somehow is very reminiscent, not somehow, for reasons that are obvious, it's a little reminiscent of some of the Vince McMahon stuff.

What do you think of the arrest this past week of Sean Combs, P.

Diddy, Puff Daddy, Diddy?

I think he changed his name to love once, which is crazy considering all these stories about how he shared his love, apparently at parties he called freak outs where for days at a time loaded on drugs being secretly videotaped with i would assume a good amount considering they recovered a thousand bottles of lube and baby oil from his house

i'm guessing there was a lot of lathering up happening there you know if somebody hadn't heard about this story they're going what the fuck is he talking about well i'll stop now and we'll expand from here what are your thoughts on the arrest of p.

Diddy and and the chance that he may never see freedom again?

Well, we have talked about Daddy Diddy and all the little itty-bitty diddies

in the past on the program, and I was not familiar with a lot of Diddy's work or his music or his whatever the heck else he's been involved in.

But now suddenly,

Boom, they just, they came down, swooped down the feds and arrested him for not only sex trafficking and drug trafficking, out of traffic violations, I don't know, arson is in there, assault, Rico,

a conspiracy, racketeering, whatever the fuck.

I don't know, but I'll tell you one thing.

Finding heroin is one thing, or finding illegal stockpiles of weapons is another thing.

But goddamn, it's hard to talk your way out of it when they find you with a thousand bottles of lube, isn't it?

See, let's stop right there, because let's just say we were going to have an orgy, right?

Oh, well, you can go ahead and say it.

I'm reserving comment till I find out who else besides you is attending.

I'm not saying I'm going to attend, but let's say there's an orgy and we're part of the

party team, I guess.

The cast.

We're in the cast.

If you're going to have, let's say, eight people,

how many bottles of baby oil or a lube would that be?

How much lube is needed, right?

Doesn't a little bit go a long way?

Isn't that the point of lube?

Well, that used to be one of their their commercial taglines.

A little dabble, do you,

on the Astro Glide?

But

I would think that even if you're going for two or three days on all these wild wonder drugs that were apparently being passed around, that still one bottle of lube, well, it depends on the size of the, but I saw pictures of bottles of lube that looked pretty good size.

These weren't like pocket or purse.

Wait, were those his or was it just a generic photo of bottles of lube?

Well, no, it was the bottles of lube that the FBI.

Do you think that's the first time the FBI ever had to confiscate bottles of lube?

Do they have to like sit down with a pen and write down what's baby oil and what's KY jelly?

They got to inventory everything, but I would think that one bottle of lube per person would do you for a couple of days because, you know, after a while, you don't have to reapply that shit that often.

So was he having a thousand?

Where was he holding this thing?

The Jaffa Mosque in fucking Pennsylvania?

Well, no, apparently he was doing it in, at times, at least in hotels, because there was some hotel in New York that after this story broke said that, like, yeah, he had to pay, I want to say $50,000 to repair a giant room that everything was covered with baby oil.

So he brought it into the hotel.

I guess that's another thing.

Someone had to carry a bunch of lube and baby oil into the hotel.

So what are the fucking bell hops down there going, oh, wait, that's just Diddy's people carrying in his baby oil.

And that's what that hand truck is.

And apparently drugs.

Apparently there were drugs and lube and all sorts of who knows what.

And again, secret cannon.

And you know, you got to steam clean those carpets and the drapes to get the lube out of that hotel room.

If you have to replace the drapes, that's expensive.

There are no cheap drapes.

No.

So right there.

But now, here's another thing, though.

He is a wealthy man, is Diddy.

Because he was offering it.

They don't want to hold it.

They don't want to let him out on bail.

They want to hold him.

Well,

they are holding him.

This has been determined now.

They're not letting him on.

Yes, that's why I said they don't want to let him out on bail.

They want to hold him because he's got more money than the federal government.

They figure he can just fly away to a private island or whatever.

But he was saying he would put $50 million bail up,

that he wouldn't go anywhere.

Which would, what would that be?

Would that be a tenth or a 20th of the money that he's got?

Maybe?

Well, it's hard to say because, again, what he's got what is that

it might be chlamydia too as we find out now i guess the point is a lot of the revenue streams are drying up who's gonna oh see that's why he needed the lube

all right you know

but here's the thing he's got all that money is here's the point i was going to make with this

He's got all that money.

Why did he need to buy the lube from Costco in bulk?

Why couldn't he just buy as he's having a freak out or a fuck off or whatever it was?

Why didn't he just buy the lube needed for that individual

freak out or fuck off?

Why did he have to buy and stockpile?

Then he's got evidence against him and also...

And he got a good deal in bulk.

Well, yeah, but he's rich.

He doesn't need to buy in bulk.

I mean, only the poor people that have orgies with 75 or 100 people need to buy the lube in bulk.

There's a lot of bad judgment went into this all the way around.

And apparently at these parties, and again, stories are now coming out, and it's one thing hearing stories about Diddy, because I heard things way back when I was in the music industry, but not like this, but stories are now coming out from people who were there.

I just saw an interview with some, I guess, male prostitute who was

arrested a few years ago for shooting up Trump's golf course.

Was his name Deuce Bigelow?

It wasn't Deuce Bigelow, but he had shot up Trump's golf course and they arrested him.

How do you shoot up a golf course?

I'm going to nail that hole in one, bam, bam.

But what?

Well, apparently when he was being.

Did he get stiffed by Trump too?

I mean, not paid.

When he was being interviewed, he started saying how, yeah, they brought him in to have sex with, you know, Cassie in front of Puff Daddy, and Puff Daddy would sit there and masturbate.

And he went to these parties and Rick Ross and Puffy are gay, and there were all these big rappers having

sex with each other.

Rick Ross Wasn't he that big motherfucker on AEW-TV?

Well, no, he called out the big motherfucker.

That was Keith Lee.

Oh, where's he?

Well, he was a pretty good-sized son of a bitch himself.

Well, again, this is according to the stories that are now going out, and they're coming out in articles.

And again, there are accusations that apparently at these parties, you would have male rappers having sex with each other, which again, it changes the way you see a lot of the guys who are acting real hard and like they're ladies men if they're all just getting bombed with puffy and fucking each other.

You know, I know somebody out there goes, oh, people have been lives have been damaged by this horrible activity.

I don't give a fuck who's in goddamn Diddy Daddy's social circle or if you were hanging around Daddy Diddy and any of the little itty bitty diddies,

you're probably fucking nuts too.

How worried do you think

celebrities, rappers, musicians, whoever it may be, politicians may be, how worried do you think they are?

Just like a Jeffrey Epstein kind of of thing where apparently it's not about a flight log.

It's about videotapes.

There's video evidence of who was at these freak offs that he was secretly recording.

Well, now, are these all innocent victims and or professionally paid individuals?

Or are

there stories of celebrities and public figures being mixed into these videos?

Reportedly, celebrities and public figures being at these parties, freaking off.

Well, in that case, they're probably going to be freaking out.

Well, we will.

I'll tell you one thing.

I haven't, fortunately, I haven't been to any of Daddy Diddy's parties since

the home video came into being.

Well, we will see what happens with Diddy.

Back in the 60s, me and Diddy's daddy, we had fun.

Diddy's daddy was a connected guy.

He was hooked up with Frank Lucas.

So he hooked up with Frank Lucas, so they're all just having sex in discussion.

That's not what I'm saying.

All right, well, let's move on from this pervert to another pervert.

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What are your thoughts going into it about what's about to happen, what we're about to hear?

We don't know what the story will be.

A lot of people are afraid it'll be WWE whitewashing everything.

And other people are thinking, maybe there will be.

people admitting that Vince was a fucked up guy in this Vince McMahon documentary.

Well, I'm interested because I've heard some people have said, oh, it's a big burial of Vince.

And, you know, they're just digging into him.

And maybe that's to,

maybe that's true.

It is going to be that.

Or maybe they're preparing people.

So

if it's not that bad, they'll think, well, if that's a big burial, then maybe he's not so bad.

Who knows, right?

Till we see it.

But the point is.

I got a problem with these Netflix people.

And you know this.

I told you this.

I'm going to now tell the world.

They are debuting.

It's not like a six-part series where you get to watch a part once a week, and it's not like a debut of a television program where 8 o'clock Eastern Time, right here on CBS,

Netflix is putting all six of these episodes up at the same time at 3 o'clock in the morning.

And you claim to me that there is a strategy for that, but I think that's stupid as shit.

What kind of goddamn big event, the Super Bowl, the goddamn Oscars, the opening of an all-night gas station, what happens at three o'clock in a fucking morning?

The freak off.

Besides that.

Well, again, it's three o'clock in the morning East Coast.

That would be midnight on the West Coast.

People are still up.

Who wants to start a six-hour goddamn deal at midnight?

And it sets it up so that if you are

an interested party, you can wake up that morning and immediately lay in bed and watch the whole series you know there's going to be people watching the series

by the time we wake up there's going to be some crazy wrestling fan has already watched the whole thing and they ran the twitter to get out first who has a life bereft of responsibility to such an extent that they can get up on a thursday morning in the middle of a weekday and watch six hours of television starting at eight or nine o'clock in the morning wrestling twitter

you got me there

all right well did you see the comments that, and I don't know when exactly this is from, but this was sent to me by a bunch of people on Twitter.

The Chale Sonnen comments about Vince McMahon?

I heard something about it, but I'm willing to be filled in with more detail.

All right, let me just double-check to make sure this is a.

And by the way, while you're double-checking, what I'm going to say or was going to say is that

we are going to cover this on next week's.

It's going to be the drive-through,

And it, you know, we'll have some other things on as well, but it will be a special episode devoted to the Vince mini-series that we're going to get out as quickly as possible after we get up Wednesday morning or Thursday morning at 9 o'clock and watch this fucking thing or whatever.

Whatever day it is.

All right, let's go to audio.

Apparently, this is, it says here, courtesy of Flagrant, which I'm guessing is a show.

It's Chail Sonin with four other men on a couch.

It's like the view, but.

Wait a minute.

Now, what do you got more men on a couch now?

This is program is degenerating.

Let's play this.

The clip says, Chail Son exposes Vince McMahon for sleeping with men with Andrew Schultz.

A year ago, you know, Vince just got hit.

It was like six months ago.

I'm picking up a number, but it kind of feels like about six months ago.

And I told Jim Roman, it was the middle of a smack off.

We were talking trash anyway, but I said, I never met Vince, and I know 11 people that he slept with, eight of them men, all consent, or eight of them, women, all consenting adults.

So, which is the implications now.

But that's true.

That wasn't the joke.

And Jim wanted to run it.

It was too hot.

He said, man, we can't do it.

Oh, Jim, I wasn't joking.

I was talking trash, but I wasn't joking.

And anyway, I mean, when Vince got me too out of the business, I did think it was a surprise.

As good as he is, I would not completely count that he couldn't come back.

When the men start coming out, it will be a different story.

Wait, wait, wait, he used to bang dudes a little bit.

Oh, yeah.

But he would hold their careers over them, just like he would the women.

It was the same thing.

You get paid more, you get pushed more.

This is not a secret in the industry.

Like, I'm not talking transfer, yeah, not at all.

Am I talking?

This was very well known.

Sure,

very short, yeah.

But I mean, Sean Michaels, like guys that you would know.

There was things

as well, or whatever it is that they, but yes, they had their

relationship.

Because you're wondering if you're wondering if I'm like,

Let me pause this for a second.

I have not sped this up, and I've not really had a point to stop it.

It's just been rapid fire.

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Now, Chail and I have had pleasant conversations, but Chao

is a remarkable, a stunningly accomplished self-promoter.

And

he's a very smart guy.

I don't.

know that Sean Michaels, for one, would just come up to Chale's son, and I'm not even sure they're in the same social circles, and say, you know, by the way, I really hated it when I used to have to bang Vince.

Or what?

You don't think it would be Vince banging him?

Well, which

I mean, whichever terminology you're using,

the banger or the bang-e

no, it's not

well known in the industry.

It's one of those well-circulated rumors

to try to explain Vince's

boy toys.

Sean Michaels.

No,

his suffering of Sean's piccadillos and fucking bullshit, his putting up with Sean Michaels, people tried to explain it that way.

But

I'm sorry, but of all of the things,

honestly,

if that was revealed to be a fact, I would be more surprised than I was when I found out that Vince was being sued for taking a poop on somebody's head.

Because, you know, the old joke, well, I won't even, the old joke.

But nevertheless, no, I'm sorry, but

I don't buy this, but I think it's going to chail a lot of

people talking about it and publicity as we are right now.

Well, again, and I don't know exactly when this is from.

I just went up on Twitter the other day from an account, Isaac's Isaac's Army on Twitter.

Well, that's got to be reliable.

Let's hear the last few seconds of this.

I'm doing a bit.

I'm long hair.

Oh, I guess that was it right there.

He didn't just say men, he said it was a bunch of women, too.

Well, now, I believe that wholeheartedly because

that's been somewhat documented, if not by Chale, and he didn't mention any names, by all the paperwork and variety of payoffs and things that have gone on.

But we haven't found any men that have been paid off or signed NDAs or kept quiet.

And

I'm sorry, I just don't see Sean and Chale sitting down and having that conversation.

If it ever did happen, I don't believe it would be bandied about in

idle chatters.

So

do you see Vince having freak offs with women and other top guys?

Again,

what do you call a top guy?

John Laura I would never

know, no.

Just because of knowing John Cena.

John Laurinitis, I wouldn't call a top guy, but I can believe he'd do it.

That was not the most surprising part of that lawsuit to me.

Right.

What about Sean?

If someone said, if it came out in an investigation now, all these years later, that in the 90s, they weren't necessarily sleeping together, but Vince and Sean

would chase women together.

Would that surprise you?

That would surprise me, not only because

at that time, everybody was keeping a pretty good eye on Vince, and everybody was keeping a pretty good eye on Sean, and they weren't crossing paths on a personal level that much, but also at that point in time, I can't see Sean Michaels when he was dallying with one of his army of

groupies wanting that old man around to fucking

be, you know, Mr.

Blanket, Blanket, first name wet type of thing.

I can't see, no.

A lot of the guys in those days, in the 80s, he'd try to go out to the bars with them, and they'd

Vince, that is, and they'd give him their finish and all that stuff.

But in the 90s,

he wasn't going to the bars with the boys, and they weren't inviting him or trying to talk him out of not going.

So, I don't, anyway, yeah,

more interesting stuff, but I I don't buy that one.

Well, like you said, we'll be reviewing the episodes of the Vince McMahon documentary in the next week.

Looking forward to watching that.

And now here's another thing.

You said John Cena, instantly, I could say no.

You said, if you'd have said Brock Lesnar, at first,

I might have said no because

he's a fucking farm boy.

He just wants to be in Saskatoon and he doesn't really like to get out in public, but I can buy that.

If you said

Batista, I'd say, oh, fuck you.

So it just depends on the individual,

but no,

I don't see any of that.

Well, we shall see.

Jim, another story this past week that a lot of people have been sending over different things.

I got to see if there's anything comprehensive here.

Comprehensive or comp that you can comprehend.

Have you been following the Logan-Paul-Kevin Nash feud?

Apparently, Logan Paul said something really stupid and Nash made fun of him about it and then Logan Paul responded with, well,

I'm better than you were.

Well, let's have some that's my superficial understanding.

Apparently it started when

Logan Paul interviewed Hulk Hogan and in the interview either didn't know what the word shoot meant or pretended not to know what the word shoot meant the first time.

That's right.

That's right.

That's what it was.

Apparently, Kevin Nash.

Here's a comment from him.

He's not one of the boys.

Where would he even learn that shit at?

Where is he going up and down talking jargon?

In the building?

Everyone is in their own motor coach.

There is no interaction.

There is no socialization.

You don't become one of the boys just because you're around them.

From what I heard, he's making five million bucks for limited dates, and all those other guys are out out there making house shows.

Fuck you.

Fuck you.

That's from the boys.

Fuck you.

I don't give a fuck how many people are following you.

If you said you had 24 million Rhodes Scholars following you, you're fucking Jesus.

You have a bunch of idiots.

So again, there was Kevin Nash reacting to apparently Logan Paul not knowing jargon.

Is that jargon that at this point in time you even need to be deep into the business to know?

I've got to think he was pulling somebody's leg because I don't see how you could walk into the building and not know what a shoot means.

And

since everything is K-Fabe is in the goddamn dictionary now, right?

The urban dictionary, or is it the real dictionary?

It may be the real one.

I'm not sure.

Yeah, so it's not like these are the guarded terms they once were.

And

if you know what a work is,

and you would have to know what that is, because I'm pretty sure, as stiff as he probably was when he first got into business, a lot of guys, hey, we're working here.

Then you would have to know what a shoot is.

And I don't see, was he just playing dumb, doing a bit, or what?

Because otherwise, you're a complete imbecile.

That's like,

you know, being a dentist and not knowing how to use a toothbrush.

That's kind of the first thing you'd pick up, wouldn't it be?

You would imagine, yes, but let's get some.

Let's get some audio here.

Logan Paul responding to Kevin Nash.

He is shirtless and

apparently maybe in the forest.

I'm not sure where he is.

Let's go to this right here.

I got people messaging me.

They're like, yo, Kevin Nash is talking shit about you.

I said, damn.

Who is Kevin Nash?

And I mean that.

I'm unfamiliar with this guy, which I think is his problem.

I'm not as versed in the WWE and wrestling as maybe I should be, as my peers are.

But then, how am I so much better than all of them?

You know, I don't have the answers to these questions.

It is a question.

I don't know how I could be the best in the WWE, or at least one of the best.

Like, I'm surely a top fiver, and I don't even do it full-time.

Now, imagine if I did learn a little bit.

Imagine if I devoted,

came one of the boys,

learned what the difference between a shoot and a work was.

Will that make me a champion?

Fuck me.

Fuck you.

You're one of the old guys who is bitter that I am better at your job than you ever were.

And that makes you pathetic.

This will be my sport, and I will continue to make guys like you eat your words when I devote a little bit of time to it.

So fuck me.

Fuck you.

Well, there it is.

Logan Paul responding to Kevin Kevin Nash.

What do you think of that?

Well, you know, here's the thing.

He is a brilliant heel because he knows instinctively how to be an asshole and say the right things to piss people off.

And we've said that.

And

obviously he knows who Kevin Nash is because you couldn't walk into goddamn

WWE office and not see pictures on the fucking wall, right?

If you've watched any television program, so he's working that.

Maybe he, and he just said, so I don't know the difference between a work and a shoot.

Well, apparently he does now to somebody who's smarting him up or whatever.

But he's a great heel and he's saying that shit because he knows Nash has fans and he'll piss all of them off.

And

I got to be honest with you.

If you're talking about somebody who gets paid a lot of money for limited dates, Nash was pretty much a trailblazer, Logan,

and counting inflation into he may be on your fucking tail or right up there with you, nose and nose, neck and neck.

You know, that's a very good point.

That's a very good point.

And

Logan Paul is a better

in-ring performer,

but I don't know if he's ever going to be as smart to the wrestling business, even if he knows what a work in a shoot is and all that stuff, as Nash was.

And so

Nash had very good points about a lot of the guys that are getting the business these days.

A lot of them,

you know, the money is different and the way that they're treated is different now.

And they've got motor coaches or they've got private dressing rooms or whatever.

And you don't get to learn how to be one of the boys.

But that's not just limited to Logan Paul.

There's a lot of these guys that ain't boys.

So I think we've got

a little bit of a heel heel program here.

I think Nash was in the right

for responding to Logan Paul in that way, if it was actually legitimately real that Logan Paul didn't even know what a shoot was.

But I think Logan Paul did a good job in answering as a heel

because

he said exactly everything you would say.

If you were trying to be a heel.

Yeah, I'm good at this and I don't even try.

Imagine when I do try, I'll get even better.

What a fucking arrogant, obnoxious asshole.

That's perfect.

If he was telling the truth, and he may have just said it just to be, you know, part of this promo, but should he know who Kevin Nash is?

Well, again,

is there a baseball player playing on a team today that doesn't know who Willie Mays or Mickey Mantle was?

Even if you didn't never meet him personally.

I mean, you would think he would either know Diesel, Kevin Ash, or NWO.

That's all he doesn't even even know.

If you walk into the WWE office, you're going to see pictures of this person on the wall.

If you watch any of the programming about the WWE, including some of the programs you're on, they will have highlights of these things

or the biography or the this or that or the NWO or whatever the fuck.

You watch Peacock,

you pick up a fucking wrestling magazine,

you're on an

interview on a fucking podcast or a website with people talking about about wrestling.

No, you couldn't.

You know, he might not have heard of Carl Fergie.

I'll give him that one.

But there ain't no way Logan Paul hadn't heard of Kevin Nash.

Like, does that make him look good saying, I don't know who Kevin Nash is?

Is that worse than not knowing what a shoot is?

Well, no, because it gets him heat with the wrestling fans for being a fucking obnoxious piece of shit.

So whether it's true or not, that's what he should say as an obnoxious heel.

Well, Kevin Nash responded.

I have a few quotes here.

If you watch it back, I didn't say fuck you.

I said, fuck you for the boys.

I guess I'm one of the boys, so yeah, I guess technically.

But I don't have a dog in the race, man.

I don't have anything in the race.

I love the fact that the boys are making that kind of money.

It's just that the rebuttal, I just took it in character when we talked about it and just did what you do.

You just embellish a little little bit because we get a sound bite out of this.

Okay, I guess he's just saying that he started up to get a sound bite.

I'm not sure.

I'm not sure about that.

Well, here's Kevin Nash on Logan Paul practicing.

I asked a person that's been in the ring with him, how is he?

He said he's amazing as far as what he could do physically.

He just doesn't remember anything.

Oh,

that is something that is a trait with some people.

I don't know how much truth there is to this or not, but they brought a ring down and brought a couple of trainers or boys and they go through his matches.

Maybe he said he should get more depth of knowing the history.

He's smart as fuck because Puerto Rico, I want to think there's like a 4% tax or some shit there.

So I guess he lives in Puerto Rico because of the tax situation and WWE has sent down a ring and trainers to work with him for his matches.

Let me stop there.

He lives in Puerto Rico on purpose.

Every wrestler I've ever known that went to Puerto Rico couldn't wait to get back.

They called it island fever.

Get me the fuck out of this place.

Does that change anything about what you think about Logan Paul, the idea that he's practicing matches move for move, maybe?

Or at least.

Well, no, I figured that.

I mean, they walk through matches amongst experienced professionals these days before TVs, both for

camera angles or entrances or run-ins or positioning, whatever the fuck.

No, I was assuming that they were working with him heavily on these matches.

What I think that Logan Paul has a talent that is a natural, it's not easy to teach, not only his athleticism, but the way he reacts to things in the ring.

You can't practice reactions or you can't practice just having heel instincts like saying these things and

getting people fired up and getting us to talk about him.

He's a really obnoxious,

fucking arrogant, pompous bastard.

And I like that about him.

Now that recently, you know, he

may very well be a Trump fuck, in which case that diminished his appeal to me greatly in my eyes, but you still got to recognize when he has a talent for something.

But as far as doing those 20-minute matches, they weren't calling those in the ring.

I don't even think the main events amongst the very

most experienced experienced guys are called in the ring anymore.

Well, on that topic, let me finish the last quote I have here.

You're not a top five guy if you can't.

When I was 42 years old, if you can't go out there and I'm sitting at home in the dressing room drinking beer and we got 12 minutes and they give us the finish and your music plays and mine plays,

you're not one of the top five guys if you don't know what the fuck we're doing.

If you can't just go out there and call it.

he has to be reminded.

So that answers your, or at least.

Yeah.

Well, and see, that's the thing.

Even, let's say Cody and

Roman Reigns is the main event.

They're going to work that match out.

That's not to say that they either one couldn't go in the ring and call one or call the same match, but they're still going to work on it ahead of time.

But guys who are not

at that level of experience are going to have to work on it more.

And there's usually, there needs to be a leader.

And remember, one of the Logan Paul matches we didn't really understand and didn't really enjoy was Ricochet

because he wasn't a main event guy and there was no real leader.

They just wanted to do fancy moves and dive at each other.

So Logan Paul, he needs a leader and he needs practice.

And at this level of his experience, he should because he didn't train the normal way.

But that doesn't diminish Nash's point that you can't really be one of the top guys in the company if you can't go out and do this from scratch.

Well, Jim, maybe Logan Paul can reach out to a wrestling veteran for some help, learn how to have the instincts to call it in the ring.

Maybe he needs to call somebody and maybe needs a good phone plan.

Well, if you need to call it in the ring, you got to call somebody that knows how to call it in the ring, and then they'll tell you how to call it.

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And

here's the thing, maybe take your cell phone.

You know, they make those things so small these days.

and stick it in a crotch of your tights.

And that way, when you're out there in the ring, you can have somebody that knows what they're doing call you and call the match for you.

And all you have to do is keep one ear on your crotch.

And that way they can walk you through the whole thing.

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What's that promo code?

Jim?

JCE.

Every time you see Logan Paul in a match and his opponent gets him in a head scissors, he's listening to the Mint Mobile phone plan in the guy's tights telling him what to do.

And then he nips up and does the spot.

Also, you'll see a lot of men are putting their heads in other men's laps these days.

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What's that promo code, Jim?

JCE.

And you know, that's the thing is that if you stick that phone in your pocket or in the crotch of your tights or whatever, then anybody that puts their head within a about a three-foot radius of your crotch will be able to hear what's going on.

Oh, you hear that music?

You know what that means?

We had to wrap it up with Mint Mobile one more time, Jim.

What's that promo code?

JCE.

That's right.

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My pen is snapping if you hear that.

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All right, well, Jim.

Looking like a fool with your pants on the ground.

A couple more things before we get out of here.

A few people sent over a question about this.

I don't know if the video went around, so let me ask you.

This was sent to CorneyDriveThru at gmail.com from Andrew.

The same week of the last stampede, Jim Crockett Promotions booked the African-American brother duo, the Dargan Twins, as the Midnight Express.

Leroy and Luther Dargan.

I haven't heard those names in 30 years.

They were billed as the Midnight Express on Twitter.

Are you kidding?

Well, the question is, was that perhaps a rib on Watts for pushing black talent?

I don't know why the person thinks it would be that.

Or was this...

Sounds like it's a rib on us.

Well, the thoughts on using the name the same time Eaton and Conjury were breaking out as stars in Mid-South.

You know what?

I had never heard that, and I guarantee you that that was completely coincidental and accidental.

The Dargan twins, they were two black guys.

They were twins, right?

Leroy and Luther, and they had a very brief wrestling career, but I remember they were in the Carolinas, and also I think they were continental for a while or somewhere down south.

The last stampede was April or May of

1984, depending on what stampede event.

We shot the angle in March.

By the time it played on TV, it was the end of March.

I think it was complete coincidence.

They probably saw two black guys in the Carolinas at times, hey, let's call them the Midnight Express.

And then they realized there was another one.

And because Dusty,

what was that?

Was that

Dusty was down and worked with us at the August Superdome,

but he heard about the match before that.

It may have been close to a period of time where they were just hearing about us over there.

Flair had been in, I think, over the summer in Oklahoma at least.

So, but yeah, there was a time where, except for the movie, the Midnight Express had no meaning in wrestling.

And then

only in Alabama and Tennessee, because Dennis and Randy and Norvell had done the thing in Continental and in Memphis, but nowhere else.

So

coincidence, I believe.

Now, if they'd have kept it up until we came in, I'd have been pissed because then

that was always why I was told that Tom Ronesto and Jody Hamilton, the assassins, when they went to the Carolinas, they were called the Bolos

rather than the assassins because there had been

outlaw assassins in the territory and the name was kind of blah because of them.

So if we'd have tried to come in as the Midnight Express and there'd been an underneath team called a Midnight Express there for a year, that wouldn't have fucking worked, would it?

Maybe they saw us and said, let's change it.

And we'll see what more we can find out.

Maybe there's some video.

The fact that people are sending this to us makes me think there must be some video.

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on that topic, I have a list here in front of me.

These are the reported trademarks that have been filed by Chris Jericho.

Oh boy.

Trying to get to the top of this is a big list.

The list of Jericho trademarks.

Let's get your thoughts on some of these trademarks.

Hi guys, recently trademarked.

The fuck, how can you trademark high guys?

The Jericho Vortex has been trademarked, as well as the Learning Tree and the Educator.

The Educator.

The Rarefied Air of Jericho has been trademarked, as well as Seek and Destroy.

What the f Jericho juice and Judas juice.

This next one's interesting.

Wait a minute, Brian, you know, before we go any further with the list, you know as well as I do because we both trademarked some things.

It's not free.

You can't just say, I want to file this.

You have to fill out paperwork, pay somebody to do it, filing fee, et cetera, depending on how far you want to go with it or how,

you know,

how narrowed down you want it to be for goods and services, whatever.

It's ongoing.

How much money is he spending just to indulge all of these goofy ideas he's having?

Is any of this ever going to be monetized?

Probably not, but there are also friendly wrestling attorneys who just want to be around the wrestler, so they'll do some stuff and specifically around trademarks from what I've heard.

Gas wrestling under trademark.

Gas wrestling.

Gas wrestling?

What wrestling that gives you gas?

What is gas wrestling?

Or wrestle.

Everyone's on steroids.

I'd like to see that.

The Jericho era is under trademark.

How about the Jericho, the Jericho era?

Well, no, that's not this one.

This is the Jericho era.

This was trademarked in November 2023.

The Golden Jets.

You may remember that tag team of him and Kenny Omega, I think.

Yeah, but then they were broken up for the Golden Lovers,

Ibushi and Olivier, so that they could be in adjoining hospital beds recovering on Tony's dime.

Also filed for trademark by Chris Jericho in 2023.

Babyface Assassin Productions.

Limited.

Also, I don't know what this is.

One word.

Duck Trillion.

Duck Trillion.

One word.

Not sure what that was.

Maybe a bender.

But these two, this is an interesting concept from May of 2023.

Fozzie Fest

or Fozfest.

I guess he couldn't decide.

And he hadn't used any of it.

Well,

it wasn't hard for Ozzie to decide.

Why is it hard for him to decide?

Before that, in 2023, the first filing of the year was for Jerushow,

the purported tag team of him and the big show, I believe.

That went a long way.

They went down in history with Bach Winkle and Stevens.

Here are some interesting ones.

In 2022, Christery.

Christtery?

Wait a minute,

that's Kiss's fucking...

No, that's Kistery.

This is Christery, not Kistery.

But that's the same goddamn thing.

A money grab?

Maybe.

What about Seltzer Man?

Seltzer Man.

Seltzer Man?

I guess what you have to do is...

Here comes the Seltzer Man.

So what?

You watch his matches and it gives you indigestion and you need a Seltzer?

What about Bromide Man?

How about...

You know?

Good lord.

Metamusel man.

The same day he filed for Christtery.

He also filed for this day in Christary.

Also, he filed for the Ring of Jericho and Chris Jericho's blood boat.

The blood boat.

Wait a minute.

I know he does the cruises, but do you want to go

on a cruise where it's entitled the blood boat?

Especially with the history of cruise ships

having

outbreaks of various diseases of ill repute.

Maybe you should trademark the Chris Jericho blood tests with that.

But also here, the Ocho.

You remember the Ocho?

That was in October of 2022.

The Ocho.

Yes, he had done something eight times.

Also, in 2022, the Watch.

The Watch.

The Wizard.

You remember the Wizard?

Remember the Wizard?

After the Ocho, shouldn't he have been the Nacho?

What's nine?

Well, this is technically before that.

We're going backwards.

Oh, we're going backwards.

So is he.

Well, you may remember these two from March of 2022.

JAS and Jericho Appreciation Society.

Boy, how could we forget those?

That was a big pill to swallow.

The influencer.

The influencer.

A lot of people want to be those, I understand.

Here's another one you may remember from its brief run before Jon Moxley spoiled that.

GFY.

GFY.

You remember that?

Yeah, for the younger listeners,

Jericho trademarked and was going to make an interview deal out of GFY, which basically stands for go fuck yourself.

And the same week on TV, Moxley just had Tourette's and blurted out on television for no apparent purpose.

Oh, go fuck yourself.

And it kind of put the damper on that.

Mr.

Blanket, first name wet.

We are now in 2021.

There's an image here, the symbol, the image of Chris Jericho as the painmaker with his hat and his Alice Cooper makeup and his spiky jacket and everything else there.

God of War.

God of War was trademarked in 2021, as well as the Rock of Jericho.

Oh, the Rock of Jericho.

Come on.

A name from the past, Corazon de Leon.

Trademarked, that was his name in

the CML.

I can see that.

He actually campaigned and competed under that name.

Not sure about this next one, Clint Bobski.

What?

Clint

Bobski.

C-L-I-N-T, the name Clint, and then Bobski, Bob, B-O-B-S-K-I.

Did he have like another idea for a Stooge like Ralphus?

I'm not sure, but obviously things changed from what he thought in the past because the next one from 2020, Million Viewer Man.

No!

That hasn't aged so well.

The Million viewer man, Chris Jericho.

He wouldn't be able to give the supporting documentation on that one to get that trademark pushed through.

Here's an interesting one: Mimosa Mayhem.

That was the match he had with Orange Cassidy.

It was an AEW match.

What do you think of AEW allowing the wrestler to trademark the gimmick they used on their show?

You know what, I bet you?

I don't know anything.

I don't know it for a fact, so you ain't heard it from me, but

knowing that Tony Kahn is predisposed to be entertained in his childlike mind with whatever's going on up there by that fucking goof, Pockets, and he dressed up like the idiot for Halloween, and he books him to beat everybody in the company, legitimate wrestlers, and he puts him on TV constantly.

And it was never funny to begin with, and it's long pastale.

But Jericho saw that and said, not only am I going to come up with Orange Cassidy's signature match like Wahoo and the strap match or Avon Koloff and the chain match, but then I'm going to

trademark it.

So every time Tony books one for his favorite little comedy figure, he's got to pay me something.

Do you think that's what he was doing?

But it was such a stinker, they never had another one?

I think you could argue to this day that no one has better manipulated Tony Khan for their own benefit than Chris Jericho in AEW history.

So I don't know.

I'd like to say the Hardley boys are giving him competition there, but go ahead.

Let's hear more.

He gets more money than they do.

The Painmaker, you may remember the Painmaker.

Yes.

Demo God.

Remember when that was a thing?

I remember that.

Doesn't really brag about that one anymore.

Now he's the bathroom line god.

The wheel blocks.

The wheel blocks from 2020.

The wheel blocks.

Not sure.

Thank God we never found out what this is.

Gig pigs.

Gig pigs.

Oh, my God.

Gig pigs.

Are those what he calls his ring rats?

The gig pigs?

You know what?

There you go.

They're the girls that like Fozzie and wrestling, and they come to both of his gigs.

Well, here's some interesting ones during the pandemic: Grains and Greens,

Grains and Greens,

and then, and I'll spell it for you, quarantine.

They used to be one of our sponsors, didn't they?

Or that was another title.

That's a different company.

Well, here's another one, and I'll spell this one out for you in a moment: quarantine.

Quarantine, K-U-A-R-A-N-T-I-N-E, quarantine.

During the pandemic, that's what we needed, a wrestler named Quarantine.

Also, there's a few more here, Jim.

The Bubbly Bunch.

The Bubbly Bunch.

A little bit of the Bubbly.

Also, Flim Flam.

Flim Flam.

Now,

nobody in that company has a fucking copyright on Flim Flam.

They're all practitioners.

There's still more.

The podcast he used to do, Talk is Jericho.

I don't know if he still does it, actually, maybe.

Talk is Jericho.

That's trademarked.

That makes sense.

Also, the Chris Jericho Rock and Rager.

Rock and Wrestling Rager at Sea.

That makes sense.

It's very long, but it's what he does on his on his blood boat.

Fozzie.

He owns the trademark, the Fozzie, according to this.

Well, because everybody in the band is, all they are are the musicians.

Nobody knows who they are, so he's the star.

Painmaker Posse.

The Painmaker Posse.

Any thoughts if that would have worked?

I'd like to see if they would misspell that just a little bit on

the application like aew did on one of its applications before so we could get the painmaker pussy well shortly after aew started october or on tv at least october 2019 he trademarked two things the painmaker and the inner circle you may remember that i read the the first big group that he was able to sap energy and life sustening force off of

A few more here, a little bit of the bubbly, Rock and Wrestling Rager, and finally, Chris Jericho.

He owns the trademark, the Chris Jericho.

Well, that one was probably easy.

I don't know if anybody's fighting him over that one these days.

You know, it's one thing if you're going to use these things in commerce.

It's another thing if you're just trademarking anything that comes into your head.

It's not the way it's supposed to work.

But any thoughts on this?

And

well, yes, again, it takes time and effort.

And even if he's got some

mark doing it for him for nothing, that's a lot of shit to go through for just vague concepts and blurted out words, isn't it?

It certainly is.

And I didn't give credit to the person who sent this in, Danny in Wigan, England, or Wigan.

Wigan England.

Wiggin.

Excuse me.

You of all people can't pronounce Wigan.

You know, I haven't seen it in a while.

Wiggin, England.

Wiggin England.

And

if Billy Riley had his way, you wouldn't see it at all.

Well, Jim, before we wrap things up today, I want to talk a little bit about some retro action figures because I've got got a flood of them right here.

And one of them I know you have

from the Zombie Sailor figure line, the brand new Hercules Hernandez figure wearing the t-shirt from Power and Glory.

There's also a Paul Roma figure

to finish her Power and Glory set.

But Hercules Hernandez, the black trunks, the beard, the kind of the look he had in Mid-South.

What do you think of the figure?

Yeah, the chain.

The look he had in Mid-South besides the t-shirt.

But boy,

you sent me one of those and I do appreciate it because now I've got a, I can't say a shelf because I have no more shelves left, but

I have part of a shelf where I've got books and I've got some space on the end.

I'm starting to prop up all the figures of guys that I'm getting now that I actually managed during my career that I have not had figures of before

or representations of or whatever.

And Hercules is there proudly because because I loved that fucking guy and what an athlete he was.

But no, these things are cool.

And,

you know, it's a

it's an under,

what's the word I'm searching for?

An underrepresented era that some of these guys are coming from where they either the company wasn't doing land office business on merchandise or just these guys

In some cases, like the Mantar figures we talked about, they may have slipped underneath the surface or between the cracks or down the drain or however it's fucking framed.

You know what it is specifically with the Hasbro figures, and these are obviously Hasbro-style figures.

If you look at like 1990 when they first came out, they were Demolition, the Twin Towers, Andre, Rick Rude, Hogan, Savage, DiBiase, Jake, Brutus Beefcake, maybe Andre.

But there were a lot of guys that weren't in that.

And then when the second group came out, it was some of the other other top guys that were there at the time, Dusty, a few other people.

But there were still a ton of guys not included.

There was never a Hercules Hernandez in the line.

Well, yeah, because, you know, think about it.

Not Hercules at that time, not even Hercules Hernandez.

Yeah, and think, you know, if they if Vince had 50 guys under contract because he was running two and three shows or whatever, but they only did a line of,

you know, eight figures at a time and then eight more had come out.

And by the time they do another one, that guy has left and gone somewhere else.

They do more without it.

You know, some people,

and we've talked about it, how the Midnight Express never really got figures when they were on top and popular, where things would have sold.

It was after the fact and not done on any widespread basis until

mine came out at jimcornet.com, Cornet's Collectibles, the Midnight Express and Heavenly Bodies action figures are available.

But

some of these guys,

as we said, underrepresented, never.

That was one of the main reasons I wanted to do these Midnight Express figures, as we talked about before, is so many of the guys didn't get any money from their own merchandise.

Either they weren't sold as they should have been, or

they got jacked around and didn't get their, you know, their rightful due on it.

The Midnight Express have been and are from these.

And

these new retro figures have have gone through the

various families or estates or whatever.

So at least you guys are finally getting something.

On that topic, and slightly going away from wrestling, but part of the zombie sailor figure line and talking about estates, I sent you one of these, the new Bruce Lee action figure.

Yes.

And I'm curious, because you are a Bruce Lee fan.

Did you ever feel like when you were, you know, young and a fan of his that there was ever proper merchandise?

I mean, there was never an action figure for you to get, was there?

No,

there was never an action figure.

And I lived through

the Bruce Lee craze, the heyday, the movies, Enter the Dragon, and then his death, and

the iconic status that was awarded him afterwards.

And there were special magazines all over the newsstands, and you could get Bruce Lee wall posters and Bruce Lee,

you know, kung fu courses.

And

did I mention tons of commemorative magazines?

Never an action figure that I ever saw.

And this one has him in the stance and has the bloody

claw prints from the fucking mirror room scene, right?

That's right.

So this one, yeah, so this is a cool one, but no, they didn't.

You had everything else but, like I said, the videos when video became a thing, home video, videos of the movies, drive-ins would do, you know, quadruple features, everything that you could exploit about Bruce Lee, except an action figure.

Well, again, that's in the Hasbro style and sticking on the topic of Hasbro style figures.

And as opposed to the ones in AEW they're doing now, which are in the has-been style.

Well, this is the newest one from Figure Collections.

Wrestle Something Wrestlers line.

Again, the Hasbro style.

The brand new referee Mike Kiota action figure.

It comes with three replaceable hands, of course, with different fingers up so you could properly count in the photos you're taking with the figure.

Yeah,

if I know a Kyoto, one finger would specifically be up.

According to Acadist from Willingboro, New Jersey, made his TV debut in 1989.

He has been the third man in the ring ever since.

From then until 2021, he called some of the most legendary and iconic matches in pro wrestling history.

Again, this is from Figure Collections and the Wrestle Something Wrestlers.

What are your thoughts on referee action figures?

Is it a necessity?

And Mike Kiyota.

Well, you got to have the referee if you're going to have two wrestlers wrestle, right?

You got to have a referee.

And

Keyota, again, like I never had a crossword with Mike Kiota.

He's a fun guy, nice guy.

He was there to show up and do his shit.

And the referees in those days,

except for

Earl Hebner and Timmy White, who had attained some level of status and seniority, all the referees, and it wasn't just

Kyoto, it was

there was Jack Doan

and

Tony Chimmell, even though he was a ring announcer.

They all had to work on the ring crew also.

When I first got there, I was like,

stunned

that all of the referees were also the ring crew guys.

So they had to ride in the truck.

They had to get there early, set all that shit up and didn't get dressed.

I'm like, holy fuck.

But no wonder they had

Hebner or they had Timmy White to do the

main events so they could spend a little more time with,

you know, concentrating on their match and what was going to go on if it was a pay-per-view TV or whatever.

But those, the referees, they got their money's worth out of them.

But Kyoto, very nice guy.

I'm glad to see he got memorialized in plastic.

Well, sticking on the topic, and let me just mention also, because I have them here, Figure Collections just put out guardrails for anyone who needs guardrails for their

photos.

But Jim, I have here from the Hastel Toys gimmicks, grapplers and gimmicks, excuse me, grapplers and gimmicks line.

You talk about wrestlers missing from those sets of the late 80s, early 90s figures.

The fabulous Rougeau brothers, Jacques and Raymond.

What do you think the finishing maneuvers for each one of these competitors is?

Oh, now they've got an individual finishing maneuver rather than a tag team.

Each of them have their own finisher.

The French flop and fly.

Oh.

And the Paris Peace Accord.

Jacques has the Montreal Masher.

And, of course, Raymond with the Rouge Rage.

I think mine were better, weren't they?

I think so.

Maybe I would give Jacques Rouge a rage.

He's the one who took Dynamite's teeth out.

Maybe when the Eddie Auger figures come out, they'll modify those.

Well, that's a different toy line.

We'll see what happens there.

Jim, the Rougeau brothers, again, a team that I don't think you ever would have interacted with.

You were around Jacques Rouge earlier than that.

But did you see the stuff with them in Montreal and the Garvins as it happened?

And any thoughts on them?

Did you ever watch them as baby faces or heels in WWF?

Yes.

Well, I'd known Jacques Rouge,

and we've talked about it since he came to Memphis in, what was that, 1980?

It was 82, wasn't it?

Yeah, 1982, he came down as a babyface, and

he was French-Canadian in Tennessee.

So that was goddamn stranger in paradise.

And so they quickly turned him heel because he was.

You know, we've talked about, I mean, this is not any, not even an insult.

French Canadian people,

many of them have a way of talking or coming off to Americans, especially Americans that aren't used to dealing with French Canadian people, where they're fucking assholes.

And Jacques was not getting over as a babyface, but boy, he was a natural heel.

He was a French Logan Paul.

Ray Rougeau, I worked with more when I got to the WWF.

in the 90s because he was still doing

French language commentary and would do some work

around the

Canadian events that DeMarco was running and et cetera.

So, Raymond, very nice guy, and the more calm of the two brothers, but he was in the

boxing match we did in Montreal, Owen against Raymond Rouge,

where he had George Chavallo in his corner.

So, that was fun.

But no, the Rougeots were a good tag team, and

I always enjoyed them more as heels but they

they were more

noted for being heels in the United States but they were huge baby faces in Montreal and what was that run with the Garvins 85 or 86

I believe it went into 86 I believe 86 so but the point is Ronnie and Jimmy because Ronnie's French Canadian and Jimmy is not a blood relative so he's old-fashioned American, but they were able to be the heels and face the Rougeots in Montreal.

And one thing about Montreal, and we've seen it with the Rougeots, we've seen it with the Leduc, we've seen it with Kevin Owens, Kevin Steen, they support whoever the local wrestling hero is.

And Jacques in modern days has drawn some incredible size houses on indie shows in Montreal.

But they were, what was it, the promotion?

Was that all-star wrestling at the time or what was international?

International.

They were drawing 15,000 people and up to the forum in Montreal for those tag matches, right?

And had a ton of heat.

And that's right.

And that's right when they made the deal with Vince and the Rougeauds went there.

King Tongo went there.

Dino Bravo went there.

Yeah.

Everyone ended up working for Vince.

And business in Montreal went to hell in a handbasket

because he got all the stars.

But they were drawing a tremendous amount of money.

And that's when,

you know, it's all about time and place and angle

because

they had Montreal had not been doing well business-wise

for a few years before that but boom it made an incredible comeback and you had

that's what they need that's the Montreal

recipe

is to have really strong local French Canadian baby face and then a heel

that either is

you know maybe in Ronnie's case French French-Canadian, but also just heels that work well with those baby faces, and you can draw money, or you could.

I don't know if you can do anything anymore.

But there you have it.

Well, there you have it.

One more figure I want to quickly mention because we'll have more about these in future installments of this because it appears there's a competition going on between the Randy Savage estate and the Davey Boy Smith estate.

Who can get the most stuff out?

But we have here from Hasdel Toys, gimmicks.

I did it again.

Grapplers and gimmicks.

Davey Boy Smith 97.

For anyone looking for a Heart Foundation, Davey Boy Smith.

Davey Boy Smith97.

We'll talk more about Davey Boy in future weeks.

One last Hasbro-style figure from KWK K-Fabe Heroes, our friend Sean Ng.

This is the brand new Comet Kid figure, aka Max Moon.

Oh my gosh.

Tom Borick, aka Paul Diamond from Outer Space.

Born May 11th, 1961 from Outer Space.

Tom Borick.

And it has some.

Oh, wait a minute.

That's across the international dateline if it's in outer space.

So how do we know what day it actually was?

I'm not exactly sure.

Is that Eastern time?

But we talk about filling out your collection.

Here's a character that briefly appeared in 92 and 93, played at first by Conan, I guess, developed by Conan and Vince, and then they fell out.

And Vince gave the gimmick to Paul Diamond, who had been Kato in the Orient Express under a mask.

He became the comic kid, aka Max Moon.

Any memories of Max Moon?

I wonder how many driver's licenses Paul Diamond had.

And he wasn't even the original Paul Diamond.

There was a Paul Diamond wrestler in the 60s that was good-looking, you know, a bodybuilder type.

The way that he got to be Kato in the Orient Express was because Paul Diamond and Pat Tanaka

were a tag team called Bad Company with two Ds, B-A-D-D, Bad Company.

And they worked for Vern and the AWA, right?

And they did,

I think they had a run down in Continental and Alabama.

This was mid to late 80s.

Might have gone to Memphis for a while.

I believe they did.

And

they were a good tag team.

And as a matter of fact,

when the Midnight Express and I took that time off

from WCW in 89,

we quit because of George Scott, and then he got fired and finished up before we did.

We took the two months off.

One of the matches that we had was for a promoter named Joe Pizza because his last name was Italian and you couldn't pronounce it.

So everybody called him Joe Pizza up in Northeast Ohio.

It's around Akron, Canton, thereabouts.

And it was the Midnight Express from the NWA versus versus Diamond and Tanaka Bad Company from the AWA.

And Dr.

Mark Curtis was their manager.

No way.

Yes, it was really close to Pittsburgh.

And

Brian worked for Joe Pizza on a lot of his shows.

So he's the one that kind of put it together because he had called me and said, hey, this guy, Joe Pizza, wants to bring you all in to work with Bad Company.

And I'm like, okay, so Brian set it up.

So naturally, he put him in a quarter and we had fun.

I think I've got a tape of it around here somewhere.

It's the only time we ever had a match with him.

But point is, when they got to the WWF, I think it's another one of Vince's things.

Well,

why is one of them not Japanese?

Well, because one's Japanese, one's not.

They're bad coins.

Well, let's make them.

The Orin Express put a fucking mask on the guy.

Nobody will be able to tell.

Well, remember, he replaced Akio Sato, who retired.

Originally, it was Sato and Tanaka, and then Sato retired and it became Kato and Tanaka.

Well, how the heck did they get Tanaka away from Diamond to put him with Sato when Sato

was on the verge of retiring at that point?

Money.

Ah.

Well, nevertheless, anyway, you had the team of bad companies suddenly became the Orient Express, and

they weren't able to do as much as they did in other places up there, let's put it that way.

But Diamond was a nice guy, but like I said, he had 18,000 names.

How good was Pat Tanaka?

Very good.

Very good worker.

His drawback was he was so small.

And now that wouldn't have been,

he was still, he was short as well as small.

It wouldn't have been a big drawback now as it was then, but he was a really good worker.

All right, one last thing in the Hasbro realm I want to mention because this is one of the coolest things.

And I love what these guys put out.

Recollect Retro Creations.

W-R-E

collect retro creations the piper's pit playset

for your action figures you could have the blue background or the uh tan background it has the wallpaper and the little desk these guys put out a bunch of cool stuff check them out recollect jim another figure i just got from japan

from bandai

the Great Muda Poison Mist Spray Series.

It's the Great Muda in red, and it has two replaceable heads.

One of them is just a stationary Muda head.

The other one, do I have it here?

The Muda in red.

The ladies go crazy for the Muda in red.

The other one, I lost the other Muda head because I was so disappointed.

The other one has a little capsule where you can insert a liquid.

and open its mouth and it's supposed to spray out of mist.

However, from my experience with this so far, there's no spray.

It's just a direct water shot like a water gun, which is not what Muda did.

Well, I think you should be able to, you should kind of press down on top of the head.

It's like a Pez dispensary.

So this is the, you can check this out from Bandai, the great Muda.

What do you think the estate of the great Kabuke?

The Great Kabuke.

What do you think his estate is going to say about this?

Don't they need to share some kind of trademark?

Actually, from what I understand, and I probably shouldn't say too much, there is a Great Kabuki figure in the works right now that'll be coming out.

But yeah, I have it, but is it going to spray the mist, brother?

Well, this one doesn't spray the mist, it just shoots out liquid, shoots out water right at my face.

Well, it's not supposed to be water, it's supposed to be red liquid or green liquid or whatever.

I had to test it out with something just to see if it works first.

Well, see, you're not using the right thing.

Get the food coloring.

Because, you know, when he shoot the red, it's bad.

When he shoots the green, it's bad.

But when he shoot the black, the shit's on, brother.

Jim, from A24, I have the brand new Zach Efron as Kevin von Erich action figure.

From the Iron Claw, it is Zach Efron in Kevin von Erich's famed yellow trunks with his blue jacket with yellow trim and no shoes to make it look authentic.

Looks just like Kevin von Erich, except for looking like Zach Efron.

Except it looks nothing like Kevin von Erich.

What are your thoughts on action figures from movies of people playing real-life characters who need a good updated action figure?

That's a lot of degrees of separation there.

An action figure of a guy playing a guy who's playing a...

I don't know about that.

I think if, you know, but maybe what they could do, I'm thinking, because I saw Kevin the other day when he was on the television from Dallas, you know, on AEW.

Do you think they could save plastic if the companies got together and they just, with different clothes on, they marketed the same figure for Gary Busey and Kevin von Erich.

Oh, come on, it wasn't like that.

You thought he looked like Gary Busey.

Well, I'm just, there's starting to be a little resemblance now as they age.

I don't know about that, but uh, the new Kevin von Erich or Zach Efron as Kevin von Erich action figure, Zach Eric Efron, available nowhere.

Uh, except

Zach Eric von Efron.

That's what it is.

Jim, one last figure here.

You keep saying that.

This is from the Monday Night War WWE Mattel line, WWE versus WCW.

Each figure has a specific date applied to it.

This figure from Raw, May 12th, 1997, is Rob Van Dam.

Thanks to Jerry the King Lawler, Rob Van Dam left ECW for WWE,

declaring the promotion too low budget to handle his extreme talents and showed why he's Mr.

Monday Night.

And thanks to Jerry Lawler, was that what they did on television?

I can't even remember.

Jerry Lawler.

Okay, yeah, I guarantee you, Jerry Lawler really had no fucking connection whatsoever in giving anybody in ECW a job.

Also in this line, there's a build-a-figure where every figure comes with a part for another figure you could build.

This one has the disciple, Ed Leslie as the disciple in the NWO.

Did it have an extra brain or an extra face?

One of his less well-remembered gimmicks, but he was jacked to the tits at that time.

Rob Van Dan coming to Raw.

What do you remember about the Raw?

May 12, 97.

I'm assuming that may be the Raw at the Manhattan Center, but no, no, hold on now.

The Raw at the Manhattan Center

was earlier in the year.

I thought that's where they that's that was before the pay-per-view.

That's right.

Yeah, that's not where Van Dam debuted and began working for the WWF.

As a matter of fact, that was the time where he didn't even work for the WWF.

They were there, but Paul E was playing some kind of psychosexual game.

And And Sabu and Van Dam were out in the fucking trailer.

Paul was bringing the messages back and forth because nobody was happy about their finishes.

Van Dam came in full time later on.

That wasn't a red letter day for me.

I have no recollection of that.

I was probably there.

Where was it?

It did not say, did it say?

Hold on.

I could go find my book and probably tell you, but I don't feel like standing up and risking.

It does not say, but that was the retro figure rundown this week.

Jim, on the topic of figures, let the listeners know where they can get the final Jim Cornette variant that you could have so much fun with and draw all over and market.

Oh, come on.

Where can they get it today?

That's right.

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And with that, the drive-thru is closed.

That was the original one.

That's why it doesn't sound as nice as the pentatonic one.

Yeah, that was the original sour note that was ever struck.

Well, let's get a song or two before we get out of here.

We have one that has been submitted, a name we haven't heard in a while.

Rocky the Ramon.

Oh, Rocky.

Rocky the Ramon with his latest hit.

But we'll find out about that.

Here it is.

The name of the song is Tony Com's Dough.

Fanana Bin for Tony Con's Dough.

I be working out a lot of machos.

Where does it come from?

Where does it go?

We're getting fat on Tony Con's Dough.

Fanana Bin for Tony Con's Dough.

I retired a long time ago.

Where does it come from?

Where does it go?

We're getting fat on Tony Constable.

Banana bin for Tony Constable.

We'd never have to see Riho.

Where does it come from?

Where does it go?

We're getting fat on Tony Con's dough.

Banana bin for Tony Consto.

Couldn't be an EV people tacky clothes.

Where does it come from?

Where does it go?

We're getting fat on Tony Constable.

Came to town and booked the largest hall.

His plans are big, but his crowns are small.

His booking is shit, and his plans are dumb.

But he and his friends are having a lot of fun.

Banana, banter, Tony McConstoe.

I be working out law nonchos.

Where does it come from?

Where does it go?

We're getting fat on Tony Constable.

Banana, banter, Tony McConstoe.

I've retired a long time ago.

Where does it come from?

Where does it go?

We're getting fat on Tony Khan's dough.

We take you now to the media scrum where Tony Khan is about to speak.

Here we go.

Hell, what's going on?

Let me stop this for a moment.

What is happening?

It's kind of a cross-combobulation of Cottona Joe and

the chipmunks and the chipmunks.

Week after week, the ratings fail, but Tony is hoping for a big media sale.

How much will he get?

Nobody knows.

But it doesn't matter, cousin Tony Con's dough.

Banana band for Tony Constable, we'd never have to see Riho.

Where does it come from?

Where does it go?

We're getting fat on Tony Constoe.

Banana band for Tony Constove.

Couldn't be an EVP with techie clothes.

Where does it come from?

Where does it go?

We're getting fat on Tony Con's dough.

All right.

We seem to be coming to a close.

I'm gonna start lowering this down.

All right, I'm going to call it here because it's just music going.

Sorry if you had a witty thing at the end, Rocky, but what do you think of that, Jim?

Well, I just applauded it.

Good tune, easy to dance to.

Maybe Cotton Eye Joe can be

a theme song for Tony Khan in the near future.

All right.

Well, I don't know.

He certainly got eyes that look like piss holes in a snowbank.

I don't know about cotton.

Let's try this one.

Are you even getting these emails, Brian?

It's been about a year.

This one was sent from Stefan in Auburn, Maine of the band's spermicidal tendencies.

Let's try this.

Let's go to this.

And then, suddenly, in the ring from behind is Jacob Fatu

under that name, the Samoan worm.

Oh,

the

of Samoa!

And now you see...

That didn't sound like a wolf that second one.

That sounded like a wolf.

But now you see how to get over.

Samoan werewolf in an enemy, and you understand.

MLW's needs lower Sequoia's brain.

He was going to a place he would be overlooked.

Gonna kick the fucking shit out of Cody Friday

Ahoo,

werewolf of Samoa

Ahoo, werewolf of Samoa

This is clearly much better than Forbidden Door

Screwing the competition

Further they were humiliated Saturday night

When the Samoa and the werewolf was lying

Look out for your foot now

But anyway, so we got the werewolf.

He got him.

He looked like a million bucks.

They made him.

They put him over big time on commentary as it was happening.

And the Tongans, the moment at the end where they walked up and Solo and Jacob are in the front and they all do the one finger,

the Tongans almost looked like worried.

Spong the werewolf of Samoa.

Son of the Tommy Kid of the Samoa Swati

He is the werewolf of Samoa

I find it a bit confusing where man or family sits

I dare ask if it's racist

Oh no

werewolf of Samoa

I who

He is the werewolf of Samoa,

the lion,

the lion.

All right, well, we've just received a complaint from the Warren Zvon estate.

What did you think of that?

That's what killed Warren Zivon.

That saw it.

No,

a good attempt there.

There's something in there somewhere maybe needs to be more fully explored.

All right.

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Again,

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