#1055: June 17-18, 2025

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It's time to pray.

I have great respect for knowledge fight.

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.

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Andy and Andy.

Stop it.

Andy in Kansas.

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Andy.

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Just time to pray.

Andy in Kansas, you're on the airplane for holding us.

Hello, Alex.

I'm a six-pin colour.

I'm a huge fan.

I love your room.

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I love you.

Hey, everybody.

Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.

I'm Dan.

I'm Jordan.

We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jordan.

Oh, indeed we are.

Dan.

Jordan.

Dan.

Jordan.

Quick question for you.

What's up?

What's your bright spot today, buddy?

My bright spot today is probably on a, not surprisingly, Tony Hawk 3 and 4.

Yes, we talked about that.

The remake has come out, and I've been kick-flipping around

like crazy.

I've been playing a lot of Tony Hawk 3 and 4.

Is it good?

Is it scratching your itch?

It's scratching some itches.

Yeah, for sure.

When we talked about it a little bit before I got it, and I was reflecting on how I don't know if I remember what levels

were in it.

And it's the perfect level of nostalgia.

I did play these games a lot.

Okay.

But I only kind of remember the maps.

Gotcha.

I really, really, really remember one and two.

Tony Hawk 1 and 2.

Like those ones, I've memorized those maps.

All those levels.

These, I'm like, what?

London?

Oh, fuck.

I don't remember.

I kind of remember this.

Right, right.

And I think that's just like the perfect medium.

Nice.

Is there anything new that you're enjoying in there too?

Or is it all just straight up?

This is what I've been looking for.

Well, there's a couple things.

One, there's some fun secret skaters, of course.

We got Michelangelo from the Ninja Turtles.

Oh, that's funny.

I don't know why I legitimately was like, the artist, really?

It's like, no, sure.

Maybe the artist's in there too too deeper in the game.

Maybe, maybe it's the past, yeah.

But also, I kicked this game on, and I don't know if things got like super crazy at some later point in the like Tony Hawk Underground or

some of those games.

But I was, as soon as I started playing, I had this like just voice in my head, echoing in my head of you talking about how many stats they had.

And they have basic stats.

Okay.

It is only like eight or nine different things, like lip balance, manual balance, speed.

See, yeah, right, right.

It's all just, it's meat and potatoes.

And so you would love it.

I believe you.

It is uncomplicated from an RPG perspective.

I'm interested.

Yeah.

Some of those menus are getting out of control these days.

No menu difficulties here.

Ooh, that's nice.

That's nice stuff.

Yeah, so I'm enjoying that.

What's your bright spot?

My bright spot, spot, unsurprising.

Wimbledon.

That Yannick Sinner, that Carlos Alcaraz, they played tennis.

It was great.

Tennis.

It was very enjoyable.

Nice.

It was a good match.

Center won, which is extra good because that means we're setting up the U.S.

Open as our thriller in Manila.

Setting up the rubber match.

Exactly.

That's what they say.

Yep, yep.

If they make it there.

If they make it to that.

Right.

Barring

Carlos getting bored or one of them getting injured or Sinner getting

doping banned again, they're going to be the two at the top.

That last one seems like it could be a possibility.

Also, is it a bracket-style tournament?

The U.S.

Open.

All of them are, yeah.

Yeah, so is it possible that they would meet in an earlier round, or would they always be

one and two?

In the old days, yeah, but now they're one and two, and they're just going to be one and two back and forth, so they'll meet in every final for the rest of our lives, basically.

I'm excited.

It's going to be great.

There's going to be a lot of angry Charles Barkleys and Carl Malones in the tennis world.

There are so many broken human beings

that were born at just the wrong time.

Like the end of the big three and the beginning of Carlos Alcaraz.

Like

poor Zverev,

he's just ready to give it up.

He's lost.

He's number three in the world, and he's like, I suck at tennis.

How is that possible?

Three's not good enough.

It's not good enough with those two.

Yep.

It's tough.

When you get a tight two,

that's all you need.

No, no, no, no.

Any more than two, and it's probably.

You know what?

I'm not going to do that Dave Mattelle joke.

I don't think so.

Sure.

Yeah.

So today, Jordan, we have an episode to go over.

We're going to be talking a little bit about June 17th and 18th,

2025.

Real mess, real mess of time here.

We have, of course, the civil war in the United States that's going on.

Sure.

Alex has killed Gene Hackman.

And now Israel and Iran are real at each other's throats.

Having a Donnybrook, if you will.

They are.

And Trump has made it pretty clear by this point that he doesn't care that Israel is attacking Iran.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The attack on Iran carried up by the United States has not happened yet, but Alex fucking knows it's going to happen.

Wow.

And so he's in this real bad space.

Yeah.

Real bad headspace.

And we'll talk about what that leads to.

But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new walks.

Ooh, that's a good idea.

So first, thank you so much, Jonathan, Martin, Timothy, Sasha, Melanie, Basira, and the archival staff at the Magnus Institute, London.

Thank you so much, you're an Iowa Policy Walk.

I'm a policy wonk.

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And I ate a chicken-fried steak, and all I got was this vision from my cat, Isis.

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Thank you.

Oh, boy.

Uh-oh.

We got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.

So thank you so much to John Crenshore, Wyvern Wrangler of Ravenglass.

Thank you so much.

You and I are a technocrat.

I'm a policy wonk.

Four stars.

Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.

Daddy Shark.

Bomb, bomb, bump, bump, bump.

Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.

He's a loser, little, little kitty baby.

I don't want to hate black people.

I renounce Jesus Christ.

So the reason I said, oh no,

before I read that name was I saw the word Wyvern and I thought it was another like Gaelic or like a bunch of words.

I'm not gonna pronounce it.

Right, right, right.

You're not gonna be able to pronounce a Welsh word.

Yeah, yeah, so I thought it was a

ton of Y's and W's coming at me, but it was just one word.

Good news.

Good news.

I got scared preemptively.

That'll happen.

So we start off today here on the 17th, and we actually have a couple of out-of-context drops from today's show.

It's been a while.

It has been a while.

And that's why I brought two.

Okay.

So I'm going to let you choose A or B.

Ooh, these choices are getting so hard.

I'm going to defy expectations.

I'm going to go with A.

Okay.

This one's the tamer of the two.

Okay.

See,

I'm just going to.

I'm just going to

go crazy, I think.

Okay.

All right.

Okay.

That's a person who's legitimately probably about to go crazy.

That's fair.

I think I'm going to go crazy.

I mean, it's, you know, don't drive yourself crazy trying to keep yourself from going nuts.

Mm-hmm.

Now, here, unfortunately, is B.

Stop.

The whole Bible is about God telling the Jews,

you need to knock it off.

You need to knock it off.

So that's...

Hold on.

Now,

that's an interpretation that I had not heard of before.

You didn't go to Alex's seminary?

The whole Bible.

The whole Bible.

Because it was all leading, all the whole stuff, you know, the Noah, the flood, the whole thing.

All of that was leading up to the moment when Jesus shows up and is like, hey, knock it off.

Cool it.

And then we go on.

But really, that's that's the end of the book.

The whole, every single book of the Bible is the thesis.

Yo.

Jews.

Knock it off.

Cool out.

Knock it off.

Okay.

Such a crazy thing to say.

And then also

so indicative of where this is going, unfortunately.

Yeah, that does sound right.

So we start off on the 17th, and Alex is in quite a state about the Iran-Israel situation.

And that, I would say, is the entire tension of this episode, is that Alex is having to deal with the fact that Trump has openly signaled support for Israel attacking Iran.

And Alex is getting some intel from behind-the-scenes sources that Trump plans on joining in and attacking Iran probably on Thursday, maybe on Friday.

It was a little later than that, but whatever.

But this is going to start World War III or four, depending on the mood that Alex is in at the time.

It's all really disillusioning.

And one kind of thing, it's a thing that Alex can't hide from because it's such a high-profile betrayal of what Trump was supposed to be in office to do.

Tucker is still carrying around the shame of supporting the Iraq war, so he's been very strongly opposed to attacking Iran.

And his public position on this leaves Alex with no choice but to address this.

He can't just like, let's talk about something else.

Oh, bathrooms or something.

No, we're the bombs.

Yeah, the bombs.

This is not what Trump is supposed to be about.

And it's a high-stake situation.

And the thought leaders in Alex's media space have indicated that they're not going to go along along with this.

We're essentially in the same place we were when Trump bombed Afghanistan in his first term and Alex drunkenly ranted about Trump shoving ISIS up our dirty assholes.

Yep.

The difference now is that Alex isn't drunk, so this isn't funny.

No.

It's just sad.

You're just watching a guy who likes to pretend that God enlisted him as a child to create the Patriot Revolution that would build up to getting Trump elected.

And he's now realizing that the whole thing's falling apart because it was bullshit.

It's kind of nice to see these folks scrambling and trying to figure out how to play this situation, but the thing is,

it's infuriating that they never experience any kind of self-reflection or like, how is this my fault?

Sure, sure.

This is the state that we find Alex in.

And

he believes that

Iran

is going to be attacked.

Sure.

Probably nuked.

Sure.

Trump maybe sent out some nuclear codes

and everything.

That makes sense.

And from all the indicators I see and what's happening, I expect the United States to strike Iran massively as early as Thursday

and as late as early next week.

But I would imagine when I see the movements going on and the nuclear launch codes that anybody can see being sent out, but they're scrambled to the submarines, to the bombers.

and to the ground forces that have ground-based missiles.

Those are nuclear launch codes and targeting codes.

And that's called taking the safety off.

And I will assure you, the public's not being told, but the death con has been raised.

Two weeks ago, Russia raised its and sent targeting and launch codes to the submarines.

This is a lot bigger than just Iran.

So everybody that thinks if we trigger Armageddon early, Jesus comes back,

no, you're just going to get the Antichrist.

But that doesn't matter.

I guess everybody just wants to die.

So I understand.

That's my thing.

So that's, yeah.

That's not a good mood.

He's in a bad mood.

I guess, hey, I guess everybody just wants to die then.

How about that?

Yeah, and we've heard him say that kind of stuff before, but it's usually full of more like

theater.

Yeah, yeah.

There's more energy behind it of like, oh, you all want to die.

This is resignation.

Yeah.

Oh, I simply will watch everything that I have known and loved fall fall to pieces of ash in front of my

little bit of fuck.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And so Alex kind of has to do the only thing he has left to do, and that is be like, hey, if you want to be a Nazi, go for it.

Okay.

I'm so sick of just trying to be honest and stabilize the world and have freedom for everybody to either be accused of being a Nazi or be accused of working for Israel for God's sakes when I'm neither.

But I tell you,

the anti-Western, anti-white, anti-Christian rhetoric going on and being tacitly approved of by the neocons.

You can't sit around with all your racist crap against Western society and then point your finger at a Nick Phone and say he's a bad guy.

When

I think it's healthy to be totally politically incorrect now so that the left knows they no longer have any power over anything we say or do, because that's how they've been controlling us.

Yeah, be politically incorrect, but also if you say anything that is vaguely insulting towards white people, then you want to commit genocide against the West.

Ah, these people just don't have the courage to say the N-word yet.

Get out of here.

So now that Alex is speaking somewhat freely, it's important to understand that this actually isn't a shift in his position at all.

In earlier times, Alex would be more opposed to groups like neo-Nazis or the Klan because he felt like that was in his best interest politically to work towards a white nationalist state in this more covert way, and that the whole game would be disrupted by openly and knowingly associating with Nazis.

That calculation has clearly clearly changed, and now instead of trying to pretend that Nick Fuentes isn't a Nazi, Alex can just get on his show and say that Nazis aren't so bad compared to these imaginary enemies I yell about.

He's always felt that Nazis weren't that bad.

It's just now fine for him to be open about it.

Yeah.

He feels like, eh, right.

There's no such thing as like a little bit of Holocaust revisionism.

You know, like once you're a Holocaust denier, even if you're like, but I mean, no, the Holocaust happened, but like it wasn't that bad.

Like you're also a Holocaust denier.

You're, you've already crossed the veil.

You're fine.

You might want to hold on to those thoughts for a little bit later.

But why am I unsurprised?

Yeah.

Why am I unsurprised?

It's a mess.

Oh, boy.

So, Alex doesn't stay on this topic for too long because he remembers that almost a decade ago, he made a video about how Hillary Clinton was going to start a nuclear war.

Yeah.

And this seems to be like kind of relevant now.

Now, this is an

Eight and a half, almost nine-year-old promo

dealing with the fact that Hillary said, I'll go to war with Iran, I'll go to war with Russia, I'll go to war with China.

If we get a cyber attack, I'll attack them.

They can easily false flag and set them up.

What a word.

And I will give the order of the military to launch nukes.

It's like the Dead Zone.

Stephen King's book, excellent movie.

Michael Cronenberg watched it again last night.

I hadn't seen it since I was like 10.

Christopher Walking.

And anybody he'd be able to shake somebody's hand after he's in a coma, he can see the future if there's any violence.

And he sees this politician who'll be president one day launching a preemptive nuclear strike

and starting nuclear war.

So Walking goes to kill it.

But the politician sees it and grabs a baby and puts it in front of him.

So that discredits it, and then he kills Walking.

But that's the dead zone.

That's a movie.

This is a disaster.

Okay, so I get that Alex enjoys his sci-fi movies, but he's really lucky that his audience doesn't seem to have any critical thinking skills.

He's on air ranting about how Trump is going to end up leading us into a nuclear war because he's not reigning in Israel as they attack Iran.

And in order to drive home this point, he's deciding to play a clip from the 2016 election season where he tried to sensationalize the idea that Hillary wanted to lead us into a nuclear world war.

Alex made that clip to attack Hillary in service of getting Trump into office, something that has been the centerpiece of his content for basically a decade now.

His actions, including making this video arguing that Hillary would start a world war, were done specifically to help Trump win the presidency, and we now see that the end result of that is being on the brink of a world war.

Alex promised the audience that voting for Trump was the way to keep Hillary out of power because if she was in power, then there would be a world war.

But now, apparently, Trump isn't the guy who's going to do anything differently.

And by playing this video, Alex may as well be screaming at the audience that the past decade of his content has amounted to nothing.

He's been part of a political project that has handed comical levels of power over to billionaires and unaccountable international corporations.

If his audience could think for themselves, they should want to eat him.

Like, it's crazy.

And playing that video is almost like rubbing the audience's face in it.

I mean, there's the.

I don't know if there's anything more stark than I warned you this person would do this, so you should choose this person, then this person has done this that I warned you the other person would do.

Whoops.

That's the most you can be.

That's the most wrong you can be.

Yeah, but that's diametrically wrong.

But is it still Hillary?

That's like, it's not, I wasn't a little bit off.

Like, that was wrong.

Sure, sure, sure.

But Trump got elected, but maybe Hillary's still starting this war with Iran.

Now, if that's the case, that's actually, that should be a very comforting thought because then it's like, well, there's nothing we ever could have done in the first place.

I've been wasting all of my time being angry, so what I should do is go to Hawaii and then, I guess, murder Zuckerberg.

Is that his plan?

Walk in.

Yes, that's right.

If that's the case, too, though, that ad that Alex is playing here shouldn't have ever been a campaign ad.

Yeah.

Because clearly voting had nothing to do with the end result.

No, it should have been just a warning from Terminator 2 ad.

Yeah.

Another one of those before it's time.

Alex used to hang out with the guy who called himself John Connor before he became a picture.

Is he okay?

Is he okay now?

He had a little pickup artist period and

man on the street bits.

I think he's doing great.

It's a lot of traction on Twitter.

Yeah, great.

So what do you think about pizza?

Like it.

Traditionals?

It's good.

Because Michelangelo enjoys it as well.

Both the actor, or not actor, never mind.

I'm out.

The actor, the turtle actor?

I blew it.

I blew it.

Yep.

Sorry.

I am a fan of pizza.

You're a fan of pizza?

Yeah.

But it turns out.

Bread, cheese, meat.

Love it.

There's a lot we can learn from tracking pizzas.

Tracking them.

You know, they'll tell you people that own pizza shops and liquor stores.

I read it in the news decades ago, but I've asked people at liquor stores and pizza places, both I've frequented in my time.

The owners, when do you sell the most product?

What holiday?

And they'll tell me a holiday, and then I'll say,

what about

the war starting?

And they go, oh, that's the most.

That's when we sell the most liquor, the most pizzas, the most whatever.

Because it's become this American pastime to watch cities bombed

and

get drunk and eat pizza or whatever.

Well,

this is all coming home economically and through sleeper cells, probably, or they'll do false flags regardless to legitimize it all.

And maybe a Trump assassination to be blamed on Iran.

They've pregrammed that.

So, yeah, man,

whenever there's a war starting, people love to get some pizzas and buy booze.

Isn't it just the Pentagon orders a shit ton of pizza on very specific nights, right?

Like, if you cross-reference when the Pentagon has ordered a shit ton of pizza and when we have about to go,

when we start on a war?

Yeah, that's what they're doing.

There's the kernel of truth in the

index.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Something that goes back to Desert Storm.

Right.

People have claimed that an uptick, not just pizza places, but like delivery food places.

Whatever you like.

Yeah, specifically around the Pentagon

in D.C.

It is not something that relates to the entire country.

Nobody's like, hey, we started a war.

Let's order two pizzas.

Yeah, yeah.

It's fun.

And it is an interesting metric because there have been data points where it has been shown to be like, oh, this did line up with this.

Sure.

It's not necessarily something I think that you could use as like a solid predictor

of like, oh, my God, increased pizza sales.

We're going to war.

All I say is correlation 100% equals causation, and you'll never convince me otherwise.

Yeah.

The thing that I think is fun, though, is that like Alex has fundamentally misunderstood what this thing is.

And it's actually like a borderline interesting thing that you could be like, oh, yeah, that makes a certain amount of sense.

And also, and instead, he's ruined even that interesting tidbit.

Yeah, and the night when Israel launched their operation against Iran, pizza sales were up anecdotally from shops around

the CIA and the Pentagon.

So like that is what Alex is responding to.

Yeah.

Is like a New York Post headline about that.

Yeah.

But he is fundamentally misunderstanding it in order to be like, oh, you fucks just want to eat pizza and watch bombs.

Do you know why God invented pizza?

The same reason he did everything else, to tell the Jews to knock it off.

Right.

All right.

So

Tucker and Trump are in a little bit of a fight.

Okay.

Because Tucker has some very strong feelings about, I don't want to do Iraq again.

Yeah, let's not do Iraq again.

And so Trump is like, this fucking guy, he needs to get back on cable.

He has no audience.

Wow.

Criticizing me.

What a dick.

Okay.

All right.

It didn't take long.

Alex isn't thrilled.

You've got

Trump making statements about Tucker Carlson, who's been such a great supporter.

And, oh, he's a good network show.

He doesn't have an audience.

No one listens to him.

You know, the classic Trump thing.

And, you know, he says that about CNN.

It's true, not about Tucker.

And it's just

a side effect of the fact that Trump, after they tried to kill him and all the rest of it, doesn't give a n F.

And that's good with the Democrats, and that's good with him bullheadedly doing the right things he's doing, and that's what's so paradoxical.

So much

stuff securing the border, stopping the fentanyl, and

deporting all these violent criminals and illegal aliens and the rest of it.

So this is such a great Alex stance.

It's good when Trump does his normal asshole routine to the people we don't like, but it's not so fun when he does it to us.

When he bullies CNN, he's speaking the truth.

But when he says the same things to try to to bully Tucker, it's all made up.

This is soft.

This is very weak behavior.

Yeah.

But I think it's interesting that Alex feels this need to equivocate around Trump.

You know, like, there's so much shit that's going on that there's like,

you see what he's doing, right?

You see all this?

This is exactly what you're supposed to be against.

And that's why he has to keep retreating back to these things like vague ideas about fentanyl going down or, you know, all these criminals that are getting deported yeah these are these vague abstractions that he's created hysterias around yeah over the past years

and he can just be like well it feels like those problems are being taken care of so I let's weigh the good with the bad that's just that's just money that's just money you know like back in the day this is the idea is simply like oh this is what those other people do this is when I'm watching uh fucking whatever fuckface on TV go like, oh, W is fine, but also I don't like this.

That's what they do.

We don't do that.

We're hardcore here.

Fuck those guys.

You know, we don't do that.

We're above the whole thing.

And now he's like, but Trump is nice sometimes to fuck you.

When he's mean to CNN, it's funny.

Shut up.

Learn a thing.

It would be nice.

It would be nice.

But he can't.

Nope.

Because he didn't care to begin with.

There's never been any learning that I could see.

That caring was an act.

Yeah.

So if you're going to have,

you know, a conversation with a guest about the Iran-Israel conflict,

who do you think would be like the worst person you could get?

I mean,

well, barring, of course, Ted Bundy, who you just don't want on your program.

And Joe Lieberman, who I think is dead.

He is.

He is dead.

We've talked about this.

Is Colin Powell?

Is Colin Powell still alive?

I think he is also passed.

Oh, shit.

So I'm just going to say that we're going to get maybe in the top five.

Okay.

Dick Cheney.

No.

No.

That would be a huge swing for Alex.

Yeah, that would be.

That would be a moment where he'd really have to look in the mirror.

No, who is it?

Nick Fuentes.

Oh, great.

Yeah.

Of course.

Shit.

So Alex has Nick on noted anti-Semite and real piece of shit, Nick Fuentes, to talk about the conflict that is brewing between a rough.

Wild.

Yeah.

Bad choice.

Wild.

And it was Nick Fuentes that just said, look, I can't vote for Trump because even though the Democrats are horrible and evil and all the rest of it, at least they at one level listened to the military and said this could potentially cause a nuclear war and at least a collapse.

So we're not going to be for it openly.

Now they are because it's happening.

So I said at the start of the show, since then, it's on Fox.

By Thursday at the earliest, the latest, sometime next week, all the assets are building up.

They're going to start hitting Iran first.

Oh, just a bunker buster to get a new nuclear site we found, which has been known for a decade.

It's, oh, we're not going to direct war.

We're just striking them with bunker busters.

Just like, oh, Israel, oh, we're just doing, you know, seven days to take out their missiles and their nukes.

Oh, actually, you know, who said two days ago, we're never stopping.

We're not negotiating.

And then as if Trump is his vice president, Trump comes out today and says, unconditional surrender.

That's all we'll take.

Unconditional means they will allow regime change.

Meanwhile, the Israeli newspapers are we're going to hang the Ayatollah just like Saddam got hung by the Shiites they gave him to.

Sure.

So we're going to Nick Fuentez over the next two hours.

He's been the most on this predicting it, vindicated, and demonized for it.

No, he's demonized for other stuff.

But I think that Nick has something that Alex desperately needs right now, and that is that he had a correct conspiracy

right-wing position.

Sure.

He very publicly during the lead up to the 2024 election was like, I'm not going to vote for Trump.

This is ridiculous.

And that, I think, has given some credibility to where he stands right now in this space that Alex is desperately needing because he is.

He's standing on jello.

Yeah, you know, I find it difficult to feel sympathy for people who engage in something something that our religions have been talking about.

Like, this is some low-key shit.

Like, oh, you were a liar, but the deal was you're not supposed to lie to me.

I lied.

We've been doing this for several thousand years.

No more of that.

You did it again.

There should be a sign on Trump's head that says, like, don't believe me.

Don't believe me.

If you believe me, you're fucking stupid.

Yeah, yeah.

Believe me at your own risk.

I mean, we can tattoo things on sleeping people.

No, no.

Is that illegal?

It's legal to put their hand in warm water.

Right.

That's legal.

But we can't just tattoo random things on people who are asleep.

No.

Okay.

Well, then I guess

I would have to come up with a different idea.

I mean, I think it's very technically assault, but I don't know if a tattoo has specifically been adjudicated by the Supreme Court.

I mean, it's practically just a flesh wound.

Yeah, but I also think that you would get arrested for giving someone a flesh wound.

That is fair.

That is fair.

That is fair.

But what if I didn't charge for it?

frankly, he owes me money.

Okay.

I'm not going to untangle this.

So, Nick, I think what he's there to do is essentially take a victory lap at Alex's expense.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well,

it it's a little bit, I don't want to say bittersweet because there's nothing sweet about it.

It's a horrible situation and a lot of people are dying.

And obviously, the strategic implications for the United States are detrimental and massive.

At the same time, it's like you said moments ago, I did not support Trump last year because this was my primary concern.

And I said this last year.

I said that I'm not going to vote for a Democrat.

I don't think I'd ever vote for a Democrat.

But unless Trump could give a commitment that we wouldn't wind up in exactly this situation, which is a war with Iran, I said, I can't vote for him.

You know, and at that time, people were saying I was a Democrat plant.

They said I was a Fed.

I was trying to divide the MAGA movement.

I just saw that this was a little bit more likely than a lot of people thought.

And now we're here.

So on the one hand, it's a little bit nice for people to realize, you know, sometimes Chicken Little knows what he's talking about.

You know, sometimes the

low IQ anti-Semites, you know, maybe there's some truth there.

So when Nick says low IQ anti-Semite, he's rubbing it in Alex's face.

Previously, Alex had tried to portray Nick and his followers as Israel-obsessed people who would blame Jewish people if they stubbed their toe.

Oh, these people, they see Israel behind, and Jews Jews behind every shadow.

Nick knows that Alex has characterized him like this to the audience, and honestly, Alex should recognize this as a hostile opening.

Nick has asserted almost complete dominance in the conversation.

Like, I was right to not blindly follow Trump, and my anti-Semitic shit is right.

How dare you?

This is exhausting.

I can't imagine being either of the two of them having to do.

How many times are we going to do power dynamics between these two?

Take a nap.

it's primate behavior it's fascinating

just just fucking relax man what is it but also

i honestly find it a bit more fascinating than just about anything else on his show yeah because there's something really primal about it yeah there's something uh that comes out with this like old over-the-hill silverback gorilla type guy yeah who's just like has got this youngster who's like i'm i i don't care i'm alphaing you i'm seeing the giant uh lion sea lion thing that's on the rock with the 15 women and then attenborough being like and the smaller males sneak up you know it's like this is what's happening yeah wild the next generation is here to do a little dance on yeah yeah crazy yeah so uh in in further rubbing things in alex's face I think anybody with eyes to see can understand how the world is squeezing apart and destabilizing.

It's going to end in some kind of ultimate conflict that, like World War II, on the other side of it will be a new world order.

You know, not to say like any kind of Illuminati, like new world order, like the power dynamics of the globe will be different.

If we had a bipolar world order after World War II between the U.S.

and Soviet Union, if we had a unipolar world order after the Cold War, led by the United States, at the other side of this war is going to be a multipolar world order.

Or, you know, it might be the Stone Age if it turns into some kind of nuclear escalation.

Tens of millions of Alex's dollars that he's earned in his career come directly from playing clips of George H.W.

Bush saying new world order.

Yep.

And Nick Fuentes is saying there's going to be a new world order and then explaining why the things that all of these, you know, people like Bush in these clips that Alex plays, why it's not as suspicious as Alex makes it out to be.

Yeah.

That's an insult.

That is exactly like, to me, that is like

somebody going on Carson's couch and saying the F word.

Or just pissing on his couch.

Yeah, well, I mean, sure, there's that.

But I was trying to put it into a more genteel way of like, that is an insult that in the context is even bigger than you can understand.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, like, if you did do that, you would cause like consequences for his shit.

Absolutely.

It would be a nightmare, and you would be fucked.

Yeah.

And it's like,

you know, there's something particularly in a lot of cultures throughout history, there's something that's really offensive about doing something to someone who has welcomed you into their home.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, and like, if Carson brings you over to the couch,

you should behave at the couch.

You should behave better than you've ever behaved at.

Alex is having you on the show.

Yeah.

Behave a little bit with Alex.

Play this game with him.

No, fuck that.

Bobcat Gold Twate's going to light your couch on fire, motherfucker.

Yep.

Yep.

So

Alex knows that Nick's a Nazi.

He knows this.

We We all know he's a Nazi.

Well, based on text messages that he had from Millie Weaver, he knew that Nick and his followers were like fans of Hitler before he even really had Nick on the show

back years ago.

And so when Alex says something like this,

it's a heavy thing to say.

This does not end well, in my view, for anybody, but especially Israel.

And I predict that you're going to see all the anti-Israel sentiment, and some of it is overblown, and some of it's exaggerated.

And, you know, I don't think in general, you know, the average Jews involved in this, there's inner fighting.

But I'm not an apologist for Israel.

I wanted Trump to do the right thing.

As Israel

takes us to the brink of thermal nuclear war and all the rest of it,

you notice I've just been escalating, trying to spotlight this so people understand how serious this is.

I want to celebrate on policies of sanity and not get into the identity politics.

But at a certain point, they make it so much about identity, you have to operate in

that sphere.

And you got to get past any guilt of any group that's criticizing you and just double down.

I think that's the medicine for the disease now.

We crossed that Rubicon the last year or so where I was like, Fuentez, you're going too far.

We need to, you know, try to, and now it's been pushed so far that, no, it's, it's the medicine we need.

Oof.

That's bad.

Smoke him if you got him.

Alex knows that Nick's an anti-Semite.

And in that clip, he's explicitly endorsing it.

Yep.

But here's what's fascinating about that clip.

Alex is also saying that Nick Nick is incorrect and that the bigotry that he's rebranding as identity politics, it's not reflective of reality.

But it's what Alex thinks we need.

Basically, the message he's sending is that it's dumb to hate Jewish people and that's what he thinks will cut down on the possibility of attacking Iran.

So you should do it.

And you shouldn't feel guilty about how people are going to accurately describe your positions as bigot shit once you make this little switch to being politically incorrect.

Yeah.

There's nothing to argue with here because Alex is saying that what he's advocating for is wrong.

The hatred for Israel is often overblown among people he associates with, and a lot of his guests fall into the trap of blaming Jewish people for all of society's problems.

And Alex knows that's bad.

He just doesn't care.

There's nothing to convince him of, other than I guess he should care, and that's not happening.

You're never going to convince somebody of that.

If I were Nick in this interview, I would just be laughing my ass off.

I'd be like, you idiot.

I mean, I wonder if he hasn't said something inexplicable or like

accidentally, really, really

poignant, which is that I think ultimately beneath what he's saying is the reason you didn't do all of these things before is because you were afraid of social consequences.

Yes.

Now there are no social consequences.

We have become self-sufficient.

And if you offend social consequence people, who gives a fuck?

They don't live near you.

You're just going to come hang out with us us and we can all say it to each other.

Yeah, I think

that is a part of it.

And I think that there's another part of it that is

just like we have rationalized this enough that now

there's a framework where you can trick yourself into thinking you're not being a bigot.

Sure.

You're just being the only way you can be, like, play defense against the people who are bigoted against you.

Sure, sure.

And it's kind of gross.

So, Nick, I think he gets the message, and that it's just like, speak freely.

Just whatever.

Anything goes now.

Yeah.

Well, it's shocking the way they play the victim, you know, and I think that should give everybody a lot of pause whenever the Holocaust is invoked and the victim status.

It's like watching Emperor Palpatine in Star Wars.

You know, we're too weak.

We're too weak.

They're sponsoring terrorism.

We have to take them out.

We got to go after Iran, Libya, Iraq, every country in the whole world.

Help me then.

We can

power.

Yeah.

It's literally.

So, yeah, I don't.

You can't trust him.

Yeah.

So we can just do Holocaust denial on InfoWars now, and Alex will do voices and play along with you, and it's all good fun.

I guess so.

You can't for a second pretend Alex doesn't know what Nick is saying.

Yeah.

He understands this entirely.

He's making an active choice to be like, this flies now.

Let's get Ye back on the show.

Let's fucking do this.

Who cares?

Yeah, I wonder if they've, I mean, yeah, I think it's inadvertently

learning a weakness of social consequences, which is ultimately you can only face social consequences if you accede to them.

So the only people who are going to be now affected by social consequences are people who believe that social consequences can come to them.

So their enemy, so to speak, is now destined to destroy itself

because they have refused to let anything divide them.

Now, now there's no even pretense of divide.

Is this a Star Wars thing?

No, no, that's just, you know, that's just how consequences work.

If you can't face them upon anybody, they're not really a useful tool for them.

Right.

You know?

Right.

They may not be, or you need to readjust how

those social consequences work.

And maybe there's a possible avenue that

could be explored.

But also, I think that you don't have to worry about them being indivisible.

Sure.

I think they will create social consequences for each other internally, as we've seen

very recently about the Epsteins.

Right, right, no,

that's what they would do if they were capable of it.

Yes.

Yeah,

but they will within their own communities.

You know, it's the same thing we've talked a bunch before.

Like, if they were ever successful in creating a white nationalist, whites-only utopia, they would kick out the red-haired people.

You know,

there would be some division that they would end up needing to create.

Yep.

Because otherwise, shit does not work.

Yep.

So

this is another little bit of a nick, just kind of rubbing Alex's face.

Oh, yeah.

Shit.

But when it comes to Israel and the Jews and all that, I just want to fight policies, whoever's running them, whoever the globalists are, for a big 10.

I understand other people having other angles.

It's just that then other people want to make it all insinuary.

If you know how Israel's really worked, they did hundreds of bombings against themselves after World War II in Europe, the Middle East, Spain, you name it, to bomb synagogues to make Jews run to Israel.

You had Madeline Albright's dad working with Hitler to round up and rob Jews, you know, Soros, all of it.

So there's also,

if you attack Israel in a full broad attack, in my experience, most of the Jews aren't in on that thing.

Then they get persecuted and they actually believe they're controllers that are a cult within a cult feeding off of them.

That's been my perspective.

And there's other crime syndicates and groups out there.

And so, in my view, it's just oppose the policies and we can somehow stop it.

But now

it's a runaway train now.

Yes, that's an apt description.

It is a runaway train.

I don't think anybody could put the brakes on it.

That's what's scary.

Not America, not Russia, not China, not Iran.

Nobody can seem to put the brakes on the train.

Somebody tried a long time ago, but

now we're just off the rails.

There's no way to have Darwin out of it.

Darth Beebe is about to be the emperor of the planet.

Yeah.

Do you think for a second Alex doesn't get exactly what he's saying?

Oh my God.

So

I think you're so fucking hot shit.

God damn it.

Well,

I mean, look, I think obviously that is a little bit annoying and kind of tacky.

But if you're someone like Nick,

you have largely conquered Alex.

Yeah, you got to do do it.

You've got to do it.

Yeah, it's got to feel really good to make up with Hitler kind of references.

For sure.

Deny the Holocaust on Alex's show to his face after he has begrudgingly introduced you as an expert who was right about this stuff.

Yep.

Like, it's just rubbing your face in it.

And Alex does not need to do this.

He's doing it as it's a choice.

Yeah.

You know, I don't know exactly what it felt like to be a Pictish warrior holding an axe, lifting your kilt, and waggling your penis at the other army.

But I imagine it's very similar to that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's very similar energy.

It has to be.

Yeah.

Very much so.

So, um, Nick says another thing that I thought was a little bit come on, man.

Okay.

I also think we need to look at how people like Elon and Trump, they have been sort of used as a Trojan horse in a certain sense, because with Trump, you get a lot of the neocons in the White House.

With Elon, you get a a lot of the Palantir people.

You know, they talked about this Palantir database they're putting together, and it's being put together by holdovers from Doge.

So I think that, you know, Elon and Trump, they both kind of have this Faustian, Aryan thing going for them.

You know, they're reaching for the sky.

Elon wants to be multi-planetary.

Trump wants to fix America, but they and their own teams have been subverted.

Faustian, Aryan thing.

I mean,

it's just, it's pretty overt.

It's pretty fucking overt.

I've dot what, Bob?

Yeah.

What you gonna do?

I mean,

I don't know what more you could do other than like Alex is still trying to do a little pretending that he's talking about Israel.

Yeah.

As opposed to like

he's he's trying to not fully make it clear he knows exactly what Nick is talking about.

I would like to, now that we are here, I think now is the time.

A lot of these conversations that people are having, very difficult, very difficult.

I think we should stop, go back, and re-litigate whether or not violent video games are ruining children.

Sure.

Because I think we can win that one now.

I think we've got that one.

Because if I look out at the world, nah, it wasn't violent video games that did it.

You know what I'm saying?

Maybe we should re-litigate Two Live Crew.

I think so too.

Yeah.

We got to go back to that first years of Fox News like time travelers and be like, y'all, you have no idea what's coming for you.

You assholes banned Sir Mixola.

Yes.

And by you assholes, I also mean like Tipper Gore.

So don't get me wrong.

It's not all Republicans.

No, no, no.

Y'all are going to be bumping to wet-ass pussy in 30 years.

Get over it.

Get over it.

And then we'll not be there in 30 years.

Wild.

So they take some calls.

Yeah.

And surprisingly, they get a call from Israel.

Yeah.

Okay.

Allegedly.

Connection's pretty good.

All right.

I have no reason to distrust this person.

Okay.

But it doesn't go great.

Oh.

Let's go to Mike and Israel.

Israeli Army dual citizen.

Israel is our ally.

Mike, thanks for calling in.

We really appreciate your view on things.

What's your take on this?

I've listened to you for a long time.

I'm a dual citizen.

I grew up in Tyler, Texas.

So

my mom is Israeli, Roman Catholic, and I live in Nazareth.

I'm currently on active duty, and I'm going to tell you, I used to have the views that you guys have.

America first, you know, don't get involved in stuff with Israel until I came over here and lived here with my family and fought Hezbollah and fought Hamas and saw how much these Muslims want to destroy, not just Israelis.

They want to destroy everybody that is not their religion.

They're truly possessed.

These people want to murder children.

And you get a whole new perspective when you've lived in Israel as long which I've lived here 12 years now.

And I'm currently up on the Golan hype, fighting for my country.

And well, Mike, let's be clear.

Let's be clear.

The average Jew I've ever known has been a really smart, nice person.

And I don't support Hezbollah.

I don't support the Muslims.

I don't support the Mullahs.

I understand

that the jihadis are nasty.

That said, Netanyahu just put al-Qaeda in charge with Turkey and others.

Netanyahu, you know, his boss before him created Hamas.

So the CIA put the mullahs in or helped them in 79.

Do you get my point about why does the West continue to set up radical jihadis so they can knock them down later?

How do you respond to that?

Absolutely.

That's a historical fact.

But you have to remember from the Israeli, from the Mussad perspective, they do that to get control from the inside.

Mussad has completely infiltrated Iran right now.

They're doing their best to hunt down the mullahs and kill them quietly, but because of all of the

missiles and stuff going back,

everybody knows what's going on, so it's got to change to a different kind of warfare.

Also, Alex, I'm not a Jew.

I'm Roman Catholic.

I just wanted to say that.

Okay, so I understand there's a lot of Christians that have gone just like you got foreign fighters in Ukraine on both sides, North Koreans, you name it.

Nick, you want to respond to Mike and Israel?

That guy's definitely a Jew.

I was going to say, that's got to be the answer.

That's got to be the answer.

Destroy everybody else.

Yeah.

They accuse everybody else of what they themselves are guilty.

Yeah, that's, come on.

Yeah.

I should have made the first thing you should have thought you were going to hear out of it was, oh, he's obviously a Jew.

It was a low-handed pitch right over home plate.

Right there.

That's great.

Yeah.

This caller has an interesting angle, which is that Alex doesn't hate Muslims enough.

I would say that Alex has that base fully covered, but maybe this caller's expectations are different than mine.

This was the first point in the interview that I felt like Alex was getting to see Nick's less polished side come out.

Sure.

When he says that that caller is definitely a Jew, I felt like, okay, man, this is not, you're hot dog and a little too much.

Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.

I think this is because the caller said that his mom was Israeli.

Right.

But if you go back and listen to the start of the call, he clearly identifies that his mom is Roman Catholic.

The caller obviously did this because he knows that he's talking to a very serious anti-Semite, and he wanted to make sure that Nick didn't think that he was Jewish because Nick hates Jewish people.

This is pretty fucking insane to just be happening on Infowars.

Nick has been making cool, edgy Hitler references and engaging in explicit Holocaust denial, and now this is just a fine way to interact with a guest on the show.

Like, I know that the shit was never good to begin with,

but this is bad.

I think that is revealing of one fundamental misunderstanding of bigotry that most people on the wrong end of it have of like, oh, you hate me for a thing.

And I am that thing because I am that thing.

When really bigotry is I am defining you as that thing.

I don't give a fuck what you think you are.

Right.

Oh, no, I'm only one-eighth Jew.

Like, I give a shit.

You're Jewish to me, buddy.

Like, that's where the one drop of blood laws come from during the civil, you know, like, this is what's happening.

Yeah.

You don't have a choice whether or not you want to.

You can convert away from Judaism.

Not to me, though.

Yeah.

You know.

For someone like Nick, and what that moment is revealing is the way that this is not about a definition.

It is about a reason to exclude.

Yeah.

It is about a reason to block people out of your in-group.

Yeah.

Or specifically put them into your out-group.

Yeah.

I have a green card.

Not today you don't, because I decide you don't.

It never had anything to do with what you needed to do.

It had everything to do with me deciding.

I'm not in this country legally.

Am I?

Are you?

Not to me.

Yep.

So this may be quite literally the definition of faint praise.

But

Nick has this response to the caller where he has decided, nah, you're definitely Jewish.

Fair enough.

And I think that Alex

at least is like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, why are you saying that?

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Why are you making such a scandalous accusation on my program?

Wow.

Which is probably not the best way to go about it, but at least it's sort of pushback.

I'm not disagreeing with you on the overall issue, but there are a lot of Christians that go over and join Israel.

How do you know this guy's Jewish?

He just sounds Jewish, and Catholics don't.

Protestants might go and do that, but not Catholics.

There you go.

Because the Catholic Church doesn't, I mean, there's some debate inside the church, but Catholic Church is not super pro-Israel.

They've been advocating for an end of the war and

allow you to have your statement, but real fast, Mike, respond back to him saying that you're Jewish.

No, I'm not Jewish.

My parish is the Basilica of the Annunciation in Nazareth, where Saint Gabriel announced to the Blessed Mother that she would be the mother of God.

I am Roman Catholic, and I fight in the idea.

Are you Jewish?

My mother's family is in me for 500 years.

Don't tell me I'm a Jew.

I'm not a Jew.

Is he ethically Jewish?

I'm not in Israel, And I defend my country.

I defend my Should they let people that aren't Jewish join the German?

You stand accused of being Jewish.

How do you plead?

Listen.

This is funny, but not in a good way.

It's funny because this is

identical to a radio broadcast you could probably hear in Germany in 1929.

Yeah.

100% identical.

Like, oh, are you sure you want to call this guy a Yudin?

And it's like, not on radio.

Do you want to get this man hurt?

Like, this is crazy.

Sounds like a Jewish person.

Sounds like a Jewish person to me.

Fucking hell.

Unbelievable.

Wow.

So I get that Nick's accusation that this caller is Jewish is out of left field and is reflective of his inherent anti-Semitic worldview, but Alex is missing the forest for the trees here.

He should be concerned with Nick's outburst, not with whether or not this caller is secretly Jewish.

How should Alex's position on this caller's point change whether he's a Jewish person in Israel or a Roman Catholic person in Israel saying the same thing?

How is that relevant to responding to the point?

I mean, it seems very important to Alex, which is weird.

It should be super important to Nick because he hates Jewish people.

Yeah.

But Alex is supposed to just kind of be like a, I don't agree with Israel kind of guy.

He's not supposed to be, oh, well, wild.

It's not great that Alex is surprised that someone who's not Jewish can join the IDF.

He doesn't seem to know too much about this stuff, and that's great.

He should also be super worried about Nick insisting this guy is ethnically Jewish as the clip goes on.

Nick generally tries to keep up a cool facade where he doesn't hate Jewish people because of their ethnicity.

He just doesn't like that the Talmud is mean to Jesus.

Moments like this kind of let that mask slip, which I guess Alex endorses now.

Because if he's like,

Are you Jewish?

No, I'm Roman Catholic.

Are you ethnically Jewish?

Yeah.

What are you talking about now?

I mean, again,

it goes back to this, like, within the out-group, the distinctions are very important because they're your group.

You're the in-group in the in-group.

You know, where your distinctions between, oh, this is a person who is grown, this is Orthodox, this is yada, yada, you know, all of these different things.

Outside of the out or the in-group, you can be whatever the fuck I say you are.

You're not in my group.

Right.

You know?

And when Nick says that, like, Catholics are on his side of this, it's because he is like a Vatican II kind of guy.

Right.

Doesn't believe that the Pope is official because they apologized about the Holocaust.

You know, they still got mad about the Inquisition, and I think they had some good ideas.

And I'll tell you what, they didn't particularly care if you were ethnically Jewish or not.

Yeah, so when he says like the Catholic Church has this position, he means the Catholic Church that he adheres to, which is the anti-Semitic fringe Mel Gibson's dad branch of the Catholic Church.

The convert or burn Catholic Church.

That classic one.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I thought this was a pathetic demonstration.

I think that Alex should be ashamed.

I understand he's down in the dumps because Trump is turning out to be real shit.

And it kind of makes the last 10 years of his life look bad.

Sure.

That's not an excuse for this, though.

On one level, it's not an excuse to turn Nazi.

But then on the other hand,

it's not an excuse to do a

public humiliation ritual,

groveling to Nick Fuentes, this weasly little 20-year-old fuck.

I mean,

it is so hard to realize, like, one of the hardest things to listen to, listening to this for me is like,

This is not how a child speaks to me.

You know what I mean?

Like, I can't believe Alex is letting you talk to me like that.

You do not speak to me in that tone of voice, young man.

Like, I can't imagine having a conversation with this kid the way he's talking.

Well, and especially if you're somebody who has like decades of a career, and a lot of that career relies on walking this thin line and this thin ice of like, I don't mean Jewish when I say globalist.

I don't mean Jewish when I say globalist, I swear.

When that is something that you have such a history of, when this 20-year-old dick is coming in and just sort of torpedoing down that wall, breaking that ice,

you shouldn't be going along with him.

You're falling in that ice.

See, and it's his fault because you've got him on in what he thinks is his fountain or his like fortress of solitude, which is like the Jews did it, you know, like it's which is very great.

Good work.

But he's a 20-year-old kid, and he's talking to you about a multipolar post-fucking Cold War world.

Shut the fuck up.

You don't know anything.

You were born after the Iraq war started.

Shut up Well, about your multipolar knowledge.

Fuck off.

Sure.

But yeah, Alex can't really afford to do that.

Can't really afford to do that.

Oh, well.

So the two of them have a great time.

And

what a mess.

So we jumped to the 18th.

And now by this point, Alex is really bummed.

Yeah.

He's.

It's been a rough few days.

Shit's for not good.

Yeah.

The world is going to probably be on fire in a few days.

Yeah.

Tucker had his interview with Ted Cruz.

I don't know if you saw that.

I did not see that.

Why did he do that?

Well, the real question is, why did Ted Cruz do that?

That's what I was thinking.

Yeah, because it was him falling into a series of traps that Tucker has set up for him.

And

it was...

Yeah.

If I were Ted Cruz, I would be putting a hit out on Tucker.

It made him look so bad.

I mean, boy,

it is never going to surprise me even a little bit how many people are just willing to not do homework for a show and just will show up.

Like, if I'm Ted Cruz talking to Tucker Carlson now, I'm like brushing up.

That guy wants to get scalps.

Yeah, maybe, but I think that you'd also have a pretty good reason to think you're walking into a safe environment.

I'm sure.

Like, that might be hubris.

That's why I don't trust nobody.

Right.

It was a miscalculation on his part.

yeah and so that cheers alex up a little bit but it's not enough no shit is just bleak yeah but then there is you know a little bit of sun poking out yeah and uh and that comes in the form of cash patel

oh god this is not gonna go well well it is for today

it's not later no no that's gonna turn on cash patel pretty hard that sounds right but for now he has proved that the 2020 election was stolen oh a story broke yesterday and more has come out today

that we actually covered and broke part of

during the 2020 theft of the election.

And this is something really positive Kosh Patel has done.

And when he releases all these incredible documents on a routine basis, Crossfire Hurricane, you name it, it gets almost no attention.

Even in the liberty movement, the populist movement, because we already know a lot of this.

So we just go, okay, that's an old story.

Yeah, but it's the actual proof

and even more details.

But the communist Chinese government, listen to me, I'm getting chills right now.

Chills.

On record.

Through the Carnegie Endowment and the CIA.

A lot of Cs

shipped in

millions of fake ballots

for the mules at the distribution centers in the battleground states.

And then the White House had already created a group to oversee that at DHS to make sure that no one would report on it and to block anyone that reported it.

Total premeditation

with all these big agencies working against the American people.

So we have a government that's run by dipshits, which is always true to varying extents, but more so now than ever.

And this government is particularly full of a specific kind of dipshit, the former right-wing media figure dipshit.

The top two guys at at the FBI are people whose previous careers were being right-wing media shit talkers.

Because they come from that world, they know how to engage with it, and they know more or less how to placate the players within it, like an Alex.

They've done a really good job of this, with the exception of anything involving Jeffrey Epstein.

The whole PR stunt where they gave a bunch of their old friends from the right-wing dipshit media binders and pretended they were releasing bombshells to them, that was a really good effort, but it fizzled out, and at the present day, this has become a huge disaster for them.

But at this point, on June 18th, Cash Patel is throwing meatballs right over home plate for these folks to swing at.

He tweeted out: quote, the FBI has located documents which detail alarming allegations related to the 2020 U.S.

election, including allegations of interference by the CCP.

It's not proof of anything, but instead, it's just an alarming allegation.

And Patel's tweet doesn't include any evidence.

It's just this statement and a screenshot of a blog post about a conspiracy about China shipping in fake IDs that were going to be used to sway the election.

As NBC News coverage of this story points out, quote, the unsubstantiated claim promoted by Patel, which an unidentified confidential human source gave to the FBI in 2020 during Donald Trump's first term, asserts that the Chinese mass-produced driver's licenses were to be used in a mail-in ballot scheme.

The only thing backing this story up is an August 2020 seizure of about 19,000 fake IDs, many of which came from Hong Kong or China.

The Trump media went to work arguing that these were for stealing the election, but that's pretty stupid.

There is a big industry for fake IDs in the U.S.

because underage people want to go to bars.

Fake IDs are great for that, but they're not enough to get you registered to vote.

Like when you flash your ID to a bouncer, they're not checking your information against a database, then only letting you into the bar if it matches up with what's on their computer.

They don't do that.

No.

That's why fake IDs work at bars.

And generally, the person might be drunk themselves or not give a shit.

Everybody's fairly motivated to only be aware of a fake ID if it's bad enough or if you're bad enough at flashing it.

Right.

And as somebody who's worked in those industries, you can't get in trouble if you check someone's ID and they give you a fake ID.

Yeah.

So as long as you're giving someone an ID, most of the time,

they're not going to really care that much.

Because what am I?

Am I the ID knower now?

I'm a bouncer.

I am here to solve problems if they arise.

I'm not here to, like, oh, this is from Carl, the guy who makes fake IDs down the street.

That's not my job.

If they have a comically mismatched ID, then you might get in trouble.

Sure.

But as long as you make a good faith effort, then you're not going to get in trouble.

Yeah.

Which is why fake IDs work there.

Yeah.

That is not the same for voting.

Nope.

It's not the same for traveling, getting on planes and stuff.

People don't want you out there.

No,

the good faith standard really only applies to this bar setting.

Yeah, yeah, because we all kind of think that the whole drinking age is bullshit anyways.

But, you know, whatever.

And people who are looking to flout that

are really motivated.

Absolutely.

They're really into going into that bar.

More motivated than I am and keeping them out.

And so ultimately, that kind of disparity is going to win.

Yep.

Yep.

Nature abhors a vacuum or something.

Something along those lines.

So there's no proof here, but by signaling to this old conspiracy while occupying the office of the head of the FBI, Patel knows that he's giving official backing to whatever dumb bullshit folks like Alex will come up with, and that's good for keeping all these dipshits busy.

This five-year-old tip about fake IDs is now being reported by Alex as proof that China used the Carnegie Foundation to send a ton of ballots in to steal the election.

Like, he's created these ballots and he goes on about this and he's talking about how like, oh, there's proof of these Chinese people getting off planes with ballots, millions of ballots.

All right, so here I am.

I'm like, mid-level guy.

I'm shooting my shot, though.

I'm trying to make it to the next level.

I'm trying to get there.

So I'm taking this idea I have to fuck with the United States elections to my superiors at the Politburo or whatever.

I don't know what it is anymore.

To just to Shi.

I'm just walking up to Shi with a binder and I'm like, buddy, check out this plan.

Do you think he reads that plan and goes, yep, millions of dollars going your way?

Yeah, he says, for sure.

Also, I have to catch a plane to Minnesota and put on a rubber mask.

What are we doing?

Yeah.

Yeah.

She's busy.

No, no, for so many reasons, guy.

Yeah.

You're fired.

This is dumb.

Yeah.

So Alex, he's done some soul searching.

And maybe some things need to change.

with his relationship with Trump.

Sure.

And he makes a statement.

Any moment now.

Any moment.

He makes a statement about this.

Yeah.

Because I've done a lot of soul searching on this and people are very triable.

People either want to say you're for Trump or you're against Trump.

I will be for Trump on good things he's doing and I will oppose bad things.

That's what you're supposed to do.

And I'm very thankful he's in office and not the Democrats

because they are the mega cancer and at war literally with our basic values and are promoting every form of transgender, pedophile, open-border globalism you can imagine.

And Trump is really ramping up deportations.

I needed to get to work this morning.

I was coming in to work out first, got a gym here at the office,

and I saw the state police in ICE

right when you turn in on the road to our office

with a truckload of what were probably illegals being put in handcuffs.

It was a

large Ford double-cab cab truck, and

they had their mask on, the ice, and I almost pulled over and got some video, and I was just, no, I got to get to work, plus, everybody knows this is going anyways.

It's so funny to imagine that Alex Jones comes across government agents in face masks stopping vehicles and apprehending people, and he's telling this story as a positive thing.

He thought about taking video of it, but not to make a documentary about how the police state is upon us.

He wanted to record the event so he could shut the people up who were saying that Trump isn't deporting enough non-white people.

That's crazy.

He can't act like this.

And, like, how can he not like for a minute give the appearance of being like, man, I'm worried that people are going to just realize that I'm contradicting my entire career?

Like, how can you not be scared in that moment?

I don't know.

I don't know.

I think there's something weird with these people that I don't understand, which is an overwhelming confidence, but an unwillingness to, like, it's not real, okay?

And I'll tell you how I know it's not real confidence, because real confidence eventually requires a heat check.

Like, if Steph Curry is hitting four or five three years in a row, they're all consistent, he's got to take one that's like, am I actually just made of superpowers today?

It's got to be a heat check, you know?

This is NBA Jam.

Am I on fire?

Absolutely.

Am I on fire?

Like, Trump should be like, eh.

I was in those lists.

What are you going to do about it?

Heat check.

You know, that's confidence.

Alex being like, none of this makes any fucking sense.

I don't care.

Follow him.

Don't follow him.

We're going to move on with our lives.

You know what?

I think that

down this road is hubris.

It is absolutely hubris.

And I think that it's folly.

But I think more what you're seeing is like this guy is a fucking supplement salesman.

He knows that enough people are going to be tricked by whatever placebo shit.

Like, hey, if I sell 500 orders of this shit, maybe two people will be mad.

Who gives a shit?

Yeah.

Like, he just knows.

It doesn't matter.

Maybe two or three people are going to be like, hey, man, isn't this the police state?

Weren't you mad about the Department of Transportation being on the road?

And now you're fine with federal agents and masks putting people in a truck in handcuffs that you think are probably immigrants.

Yeah.

You know, like, maybe a couple people will get pissed off about it in the audience, but the other 490, you know, whatever, they're fine.

It's supposed to be, like, for him, it's supposed to be important.

It's supposed to be real.

It's supposed to be more important.

And for this to be what it is, like, to hear him say, like, I'll like what he likes and I'll oppose what I don't like, is the same as admitting, like, I didn't like it when the Cubs traded away Schwarber.

I loved Kyle Schwarber.

I thought he was great on the Cubs.

I didn't, I'm not going to stop it.

I'm not going to, like, now we've changed the, you know, and

it's like, this is supposed to be about principle, not fandom.

And it turns out it's about fandom.

It's just fandom.

So as for that Trump thing, though, like, I guess it's good that Alex is going to say that good things are good and bad things are bad, but I don't know why this is a revelation that needed soul searching to come to.

Right.

Shouldn't that be what he's always done?

Or is this an accidental confession that up to this point he's lied about stuff Trump did in order to make him look better to the audience?

Right.

He's saying he's going to call good things good and bad things bad as if that's a change in behavior.

Like, previously he was saying that bad things were good.

Inquiring minds get a little suspicious about this because it's a little too obvious.

Like it's it seems like what he is trying to imply that he is going to do is no longer say Trump is doing 150% of what we like.

He's only doing 85% of what we like.

Yeah, and shit, it might be 70.

Right?

Yeah.

Which is

the same now.

Yeah, I mean, he's terrorizing a lot of the people that I want terrorized.

Right, which is good.

Yeah, and I know that that wouldn't come about without him.

That's good.

He's probably going to terrorize people that I don't want him to terrorize, though, so that's bad.

Yeah, but it's a necessary compromise that we're just going to need to make.

Right, but he's going to bomb people that I don't want him to bomb, too.

And that's good or bad.

Wait, what?

What do I believe?

I believe

that

children are the future.

I'm just

Treat them well and let them lead the way.

I don't know why.

I felt that coming from you.

I couldn't remember exactly what the next line was.

So Alex, he has a theory he's got.

And it's a good one.

And that is that, hey, listen up.

Every time there's a false flag that gets us into a war, what's involved?

Yeah.

Water.

It's always boats.

These boats.

They get us into trouble.

These boats.

I mean.

Speaking of the Lusitania.

USS Liberty.

I guess I don't have enough information to dispute that.

So it's always boats.

It's always boats.

Alex thinks there's a boat situation on our

horizon.

Somewhere.

So all the forces are in the final positioning stages.

We're hitting them with bunker busters.

They respond and hit our bases.

Even if they don't, somebody will false flag.

You know that.

We have lots of...

Countries with Iranian militias in them that we've got bases in, so it can easily be done.

And they can be blamed on them.

But But I think knowing the Iranians, they will hit our bases,

they will attack the aircraft carriers, so there won't be any need to false flag them.

And now they've got the Nimitz up front schooning around there in the Gulf, right by the Iranians.

It was supposed to be decommissioned next month.

Just, hey, don't I look pretty?

Don't you want to hit me with a torpedo or with a gunboat

or with ballistic missiles?

And remember, the Germans,

the Austrian-Hungarian Empire, put ads in the New York Times during World War I saying, the Lusitania

is carrying weapons from the United States to the British Empire,

and

do not sail on it because starting after this date, we're going to sink it.

And that date passed for a few months, and still

the Germans didn't sink it.

And then famously they had to just drive back and forth in front of the U-boats.

And then the Kaiser said, sink that son of a bitch.

And then, oh my God, you sunk our ship.

We're coming into World War I.

Come on, bud.

And the Russians have discovered intelligence that the Ukrainians are planning to do a false flag on a U.S.

ship in the Baltic.

How would that make any sense?

And how do do we get into the Spanish-American War?

1898?

Boats blowing up the main.

Boats.

How do we get into Vietnam officially?

64, Gulba Tonkin.

Boats.

USS Liberty was a failed false flag because the ship wouldn't sink.

It's just easier to blow up a boat.

The Iranians are going to attack the Nemets.

It's all about the boats.

It's always a boat.

Wild.

Yeah, the sea is an untamed territory.

I wonder if all of those boats aren't actually completely useless in any kind of real situation because

anything that you can hack is ultimately the weak point, right?

So, like, they have to be completely unhackable, which can you even do?

I don't know about completely, but I think you can get pretty close.

I think that, yeah, I think military systems are.

That's dangerous.

Sure.

That's dangerous.

We shouldn't be allowing people to have these machines.

So, okay.

Yeah, if I understand you correctly,

they should all just go in canoes?

Yeah, I think ultimately

either we're going to have to turn off the lights to fight,

but Larry and Jihad kind of situation.

Because people want to fight, I guess, for some reason, and then they can fight in a way that will allow, or we're just going to use computers to hit each other from a distance.

That's no fun.

Nobody wants to do that.

Yeah, I don't know if hitting people in the dark is that fun either.

Hey, listen, I'm not advocating hitting people in the dark.

Yeah,

I don't know if,

you know, sitting and hit attacking people with computers is that different than, you know, the drones have been around for quite a while.

But, I mean, the fight is for the people who want to fight, you know?

But they're not actually fighting.

Now they're convincing people to, like, tip, type, type, type.

So what it sounds like to me is that you're arguing that violent video games ruined

the world.

I think maybe, because those kids need to learn how to fight.

I think you're right.

We kept them inside for too long.

Now we're all going to die because of that.

So interestingly, you're going against your...

I changed my opinion from earlier.

I think they were right.

I'm glad we relitigated this.

There we go.

So this seems to be a big theory that Alex is running with on this episode, that the USS Nimitz is being put out to sea as a ploy to get someone aligned with Iran to attack it so we create this justification for a larger-scale war.

Sure.

It's an interesting theory, and it's always about the boats.

And it made me think of something.

It reminded me very strongly of something that I had heard recently.

Goblin from Texas, you're on the air.

Go ahead.

Yes, sir.

This is just, one, a blessing to be on air with you, sir.

I've been waiting a while.

So I feel like the Holy Spirit has led me to just say this because I don't think anyone's really had a similar experience or has similar information.

So I think that, one, we already are past the brink of total war.

I think that

the options are very limited, and the only way that we get out of this is all ahead, backstop.

We need to stop now.

And I think the way that they're going to fall slag us into this is they're going to go after the Nemets.

I think that they're going to pull a USS Liberty.

If you look back in history, the way they've gotten involved, the U.S.

involved in World War, since World War I, has been submarine warfare.

You had...

It's all about the boats.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Hold the fucking phone.

Hold the fuck.

The 9-11.

What are we doing?

What's a plane, but a boat?

I guess I retract my statement.

Airboat.

Fair enough.

Spruce Goose.

I feel like his most important false flag was 9-11,

right?

Directly related to his career.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Not like in the grand scheme of the universe, but for him specifically, he's identifiable as the 9-11 was an inside job guy.

Yeah, which is is definitely Israel did it now, by the way.

Things have shifted a little bit for Alex.

He's really into Israel having done it.

There we go.

There it is.

No, sure, that wasn't a boat.

But the rest of them.

But that...

Okay, never mind.

You know what?

I gotta...

Yeah, I'm fine.

I'm fine.

They're all boats, even in the sky.

Alex thinks that the 777 attacks on the London Underground,

that was also a false flag.

Those were underboats.

Yep.

Okay.

Train boats.

Train boats.

Yep.

So anyway, Alex is just stealing a theory from the day before.

This caller was

on the 17th.

The day before.

Goblin from Texas called him.

He had told him a week.

Told him about the Nimitz and

how it's always boats.

Just turns around, flips it.

That is an impressive turnaround time.

Yeah.

So on this 18th, this episode, Alex

gets a little bit mad.

And I think part of the reason is because Trump sucks.

And then the other part is is because his dad's getting sued.

And I feel really bad about,

I'm not going to play a bunch of clips of him complaining about his dad getting sued.

Sure.

Because he's doing this like, my dad had a heart attack.

And they know that.

And they're coming after him.

They're going to kill him.

They're trying to kill my dad.

And I don't know what his dad's health situation is.

And it really bums me out.

I'm sure that if Bernie Madoff had a heart attack, people would be like, ah, he had a heart attack, but he also stole a billion dollars.

So fuck that guy.

Yeah.

Look, I'm not trying to defend Alex's dad.

He sucks.

But, like, I think that it's just gross to hear Alex talking this way, trying to exploit his family's health situation.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I don't want any part of it.

But I do want all of this, where Alex pretends that he is making the air in the studio cold.

And I've never, at a gut cellular level,

been this

sick to my stomach.

I mean I'm sick to my stomach right now and I'm somebody the most terrible stuff happens.

That doesn't happen.

I've got really serious nerves

ice water most of the time in my veins.

I mean I let myself get angry.

It's real when I get energetic and make a point, but I allow myself

to illustrate that and have the energy a lot of times so I can keep working.

So it's all real, but I'm cold as ice at the bottom line for the truth.

And I cannot suppress my literal nausea right now because the danger is so huge.

Just like I told you last Tuesday, I said, ooh, it's going down.

We're going to hit Iran.

You can feel it.

Look at the crim Reaper standing behind me.

I'm just, it's like 50 below in here right now.

That's me allowing my psychic connection to the Holy Spirit to let myself go ahead and just open the gate to the ethereal.

And now it's 30, 40 below in here.

I can feel the temperature dropping literally right now.

That's death.

That was a good time to play him out of here.

Yeah, I like that.

Some cool jazz for you.

Oh, my God.

Whatever you do, get the word out, Paul Revere's.

Only the truth can set us free.

We'll be right back.

Oh, my God.

That even sounded like a lounge singer.

Only the truth could set us free.

All right.

This is the first time.

All right, my Paul Revere.

That's the next one I wrote.

Tweet out links to my show.

You cool cats.

Oh, my God.

Yeah, so that vibe is perfect.

Honestly, if he hadn't done that plug at the end and just would have ridden out the

news jazz to the break with him talking about how the Holy Spirit is making it cold in the room, because he started thinking about ice water in my veins,

he started to think about that.

And then he kind of remembered probably watching like a ghost hunter show where they walk into a ghost and it's colder there.

The Grim Reaper is here.

The Holy Spirit, I've opened the gate.

It is fucking cold in here.

Blah, blah, blah.

Beep.

It is a little bit like

walking backwards

through a Rube Goldberg machine.

You know, like you can see, like, this is where the

fan hit the thing, and then that rolled the ball down.

That's where this thought came from.

And then you go back and you're like, oh, this is where the fan came from.

But it's fun.

It is fun.

It's a lot more fun.

And it's accompanied by weird noises.

You don't get that in the same way.

Like a Rube Goldberg man.

Not always.

Not always, not always.

You might get a little bit of the marble falling onto your track or whatever.

That's a satisfying noise.

There is that.

This is an unsatisfying noise.

This is a gross noise.

Yeah, this is a bunch of...

Yeah,

not a good at Rube Goldberg.

No.

So

Alex has some interviews on this episode.

And one we're not going to talk about really at all.

He has an interview with Syrian girl

who sucks.

A Syrian girl?

She's a sort of internet celebrity.

That's what I was worried about.

We've talked about her before.

Right, right.

She's come up a bit in the past.

Right.

But I've not seen all that much of her lately.

And it seemed painfully obvious to me that she's paying for airtime.

Yeah.

Or Alex

just got hit with, I don't care anymore.

He is checked the fuck out.

He lets her talk for almost entire breaks.

Like, not even butting in.

He's just got sleep.

He's eating his sandwich.

Lost the will to live.

Yeah, well, I mean, it's been a rough couple.

And probably, if he is eating his sandwich, does not even feel the need to butt in to the point where he's chewing on Mike.

Woof.

Brutal.

Just out of it.

Full on underneath the table.

But she has something that is really interesting that she highlights kind of, and that is that all of Alex's

conversation partners have a fundamental problem with him that they're not unpacking.

Yeah.

And that is they all don't support going to war with Iran.

Right.

But they say that Netanyahu is lying about how Iran is close to getting a bomb.

Right.

Getting the nuclear bomb.

Right.

They say that that's propaganda being used to, you know, like the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq create a justification to go to war.

Sure.

Alex firmly believes that Iran has a bunch of nuclear weapons already.

Yeah.

And they never really deal with this difference

opinion.

Which, ironically, is both of them agreeing that it's propaganda just from different

right yeah.

Well, they agree that something's bullshit.

Yeah.

But like if they hold these perspectives, then like they don't see eye to eye at all.

Right.

Because if these people who say that Netanyahu's lying about Iran trying to get the bomb, if they believed what Alex believes, which is that Iran already has a bunch of nukes,

their position might be different.

Right.

Yeah.

I mean, essentially, it is the propaganda.

We both know that the propaganda is happening because the propaganda is either some or soon but we either but on the other side is you saying there's none and me saying there's all yeah yeah there's there they agree on the premise that there's something trying to uh get people to support a war with iran right uh but beyond that point they are totally on different pages.

We agree.

Fuck that guy.

Also, we agree.

Fuck you.

Yeah.

So there is is one guest that we are going to talk a little bit about just because I thought this appearance was just remarkable.

And that is Dr.

Kirk Elliott, Alex's gold sponsor.

Right.

Okay.

How are they doing?

They spend a long time selling gold on this episode where the

world war is breaking out and all this stuff.

Yeah.

Seems interesting to me that they spend probably an entire hour of the show doing infomercial for gold.

I mean, I imagine that guy felt the signal go up whenever he hears, like, oh, bombs are dropping, he's like, Alex, we got to sell some gold, buddy.

We got to strike while the bomb is hot.

Yeah.

If I were him, I would just put a thermostat in Alex's studio.

And when the temperature drops, it's gold time.

It's time to sell.

So

I found this fascinating, and that is that, like,

Alex is clearly being like, you motherfucker, sell gold.

Like,

don't say anything about anything other than gold.

He is so frustrated that Kirk Elliott is not a closer.

Oh, my God.

And

so continuing, tying it into Powell, the Federal Reserve, Trump's ending our surrender to the World Trade Organization.

To just set this up a tiny bit, and this is after Kirk has just done a pretty long stretch of like, now, a lot of things, their price is dependent on supply and demand.

But a little bit later, I'm going to tell you what really drives up the price of gold and silver.

Right, right, right.

He's dancing around a little bit too much, and Alex is sick of it.

He just wants him to go from the bottom of the bottom, connect it.

Yeah.

The globalist, all the positive things.

How this affects that as you look into that crystal ball of yours as a leading economist.

U.S.

and global money supply surge to record highs.

Dollar hits three-year low.

What that means.

Singapore takes aim at Comex

and

LBMA gold markets.

Why is China buying so much gold and what it signals for global investors?

And you already talked about in chaos we trust, knowing God we trust.

But yeah, we all know what happens in chaos with gold and silver.

Well, you add in the fundamentals with the currencies and then devaluation.

It's guaranteed to only go up.

And then you add war.

You want to revise your forecasts that have been trending.

exactly when they would go up the last two years, except under,

you under-predicted, predicted and you told me privately, which you told me what it would be, and I wrote it down.

It was actually dead on.

So why not, you don't want to hype people up and steer them wrong.

And I do this myself.

The only thing I get wrong is

underestimating things because the truth sounds too crazy.

I'll kind of dial it back subconsciously.

And so,

yes, you sell gold and silver.

Yes, you have the highest ratings, but just tell people what you privately tell me even before this kicked off.

And we're not saying that's going to happen.

And I'm not saying you're being deceptive, but it is a form of deception to, you know,

under promise, over deliver, which everybody does.

Even though you think something's going to work, you still want to hedge your bets.

Hey, asshole.

Asshole.

You're lying to the audience if you don't tell them that gold is going to be $20 million an ounce.

This is amazing.

Yes.

This is amazing.

Because I've actually

squeezed these fools.

No, this is, I've been in situations where I'm in a sales situation, like learning the ropes of how these people do a thing.

And the guy who's the actual salesman is right there.

And he has to try and tell me, dude, here's how you should be selling without telling the people I'm trying to sell to that I am selling them on something.

You know,

that like navigation of like, here are some levers that you can try that might be a thing to say to them about how great it is.

Yes.

All those.

Private estimations that you make that are so much higher than what we talk about.

Wink, wink, wink.

Right?

Like, hey, you're doing these people a disservice if you're not telling them how great everything is going to be forever.

Yeah.

The problem is that, like, probably some of those salespeople that you're talking about at least had some subtlety or some like panache to what they're doing.

Some of them.

Whereas like Alex is...

This is...

Blunt.

This is really obvious.

Yeah.

And that's kind of the entire vibe of this interview that the two of them have: is like Alex just begging Kirk to like push this more aggressively.

And I take one thing away from that.

Yeah.

Alex works on a percentage.

Yeah, he must.

If he had a flat rate, he would not care how much gold or silver Kirk sells.

Alex is in deep sales mode here.

Yeah.

And I think that means he gets a cut.

Yeah, that would have to be.

I mean,

that's the only motivation I've seen get people to behave like this.

Yeah, he has he has this like really strong energy of like you know how if you go in for like I don't know, let's say a timeshare or something like that, sure, sure, sure, sure.

You'll have someone who's really nice to you, who talks to you, and then there's the closer, sure, right?

Yep, Alex feels like the guy who does the work of getting you ready for the closer, who's mad that the closer is not closing.

He's like, I've done all this work, I have primed this audience, they think the world is going to be on fire in three days.

Sell them the fucking gold, asshole.

I can't imagine

being faced with two people.

Imagine being faced with two people.

One of whom says, well, things change up, down, you can't predict the future.

And the other one who says, gold will only get more valuable forever and you'll be happy all the time.

I can't imagine like being like, well, I mean,

I'm going to have to go with the guy I'm going to be happy all the time with.

Come on.

And

the guy who's like, chaos is a ladder.

Who are you, Peter Bailish?

What are you doing?

What's happening?

Chaos will only make our medals more valuable.

All right.

So, literally, no matter what objection that I give to you, you will find a way to turn it back into a not-no.

Are you saying that you will not take no for an answer?

Yes.

Ah!

So,

this is what I would say: just there's a great little moment in here where Alex is so fucking exasperated with Kirk.

I just think this is really funny.

Maybe it's an indication that my tastes are off.

The international, you know, the IMF, the G7 nations, the international bankers, all of them are almost in cahoots, it feels like, against Trump to make his policies not succeed.

There's no doubt.

And so let's stop here and elaborate.

You always like to be conservative and say it looks like, no, it's 100%.

The private Federal Reserve is owned 80 plus percent, and the only audit they had when it was created in 1913 by the Rothschilds and European banks.

Jerome Powell sits on the private board of it.

He's part of the other boards as well.

You've seen him testify to Congress and Bernanke and others, and they won't even tell Congress where the trillions go.

Just give it to these foreign banks, to our shareholders.

This isn't a PowerPoint.

They have lowered interest rates for the EU.

Other countries have lowered interest rates, but they won't do it for us to sabotage his recovery.

Then they manipulate him into joining this war, pushing Iran into blocking the straight war moves, which they say they're getting ready to do.

That bare minimum, 130 is conservative, probably higher.

Makes sense.

That will cause massive inflation, and that will accelerate the recession we were already in into a depression and derail everything he was trying to do.

And you would think Trump is sophisticated enough, and that Howard Ludning and others would be explaining this to him.

And this morning, he's like, well, we're not going to have a long war.

We're just going to take out their nuclear sites.

Those are already taken out, supposedly, okay, other than this

bumper buster they got to use.

And then they'll attack our bases.

And then that draws us into a full-scale attack, guaranteed to happen.

I think it's going to start Thursday night into Friday morning.

And I hate the fact we're almost always right, folks.

And then I'm watching our recovery and his success and American sovereignty burned down and the globalist bankers that had us maneuvered.

And Moody's didn't lower our credit rating on the course to collapse for for sure.

But as soon as he turns course and it's winning and everybody's lining up behind us, we're winning the trade war and he's getting a lot of political agreements through it as well.

And American soft power is back.

Here comes the globalists to grab victory from the jaws of defeat and make us a debtor nation under their hegemonic control.

And there's Benjamin Yetan Yahoo laughing the entire time.

Is that what you're saying, Dr.

Elliott?

Exactly.

Couldn't have said it any better myself.

I mean,

it's awful, right?

And so to me, when you look at this,

these are the accelerants that are causing the economy to decline, gold and silver to go up, and every asset basically that's a tangible thing.

That's the only silver lining is we know what's going on.

We've been accurate.

You got to make lemonade out of lemons.

That's why you get into gold and silver right now.

And you're the place to go.

Hands down, highest rating, best prices, done.

Go for blood.

You asshole.

Listen, buddy.

I don't want you to sound like that.

When I see you, I want to think of the six flags guy.

I want to hear.

I want people thinking gold is coming from all over.

I want people having gold coming out of their nose.

You are the gold guy.

Don't give me half-assed bullshit.

Hey, Kirk, you're boring.

Right?

You're boring.

What is happening?

I got to talk for two minutes straight.

God.

And then you start talking, and I have to take back over to do a plug.

I have to direct, I have to do the call to action and all of this explanation.

What the fuck are you here for?

Say people will be rich if they buy gold.

It is the simplest thing to do.

We've been selling gold for millennia.

Yeah.

And I know that we've been saying that Trump is going to fix everything with the economy.

That's not your job.

No, but the globalists came and fucked it all up.

Exactly.

They did it.

Yep.

And now you need to buy gold again.

Exactly.

Come on, Kirk.

Kirk.

Catch up, man.

He sucks.

He does suck.

This is bad.

I just, there's something really special to me about the moments where Alex is like, I'm surrounded by fucking incompetence.

I mean, it's your own fault, but yeah, I agree with you.

Yeah.

You surround yourself with incompetence on purpose.

Part of it is that.

Sure.

And then part of it is also no one else will work with him.

The pool of potential recruits is low.

Yeah.

I mean, Kirk Elliott was, you know, selling gold on Nazi shows and QAnon shit

prior to getting called up to the big leagues with folks like Alex.

So like, I mean,

he'll just do it with anybody.

You know, he'll take whatever

he can make a little money off of.

But like, Alex is so bad and so dumb.

But in this instance, he's hyper competent.

He is so much better at like, dude, we're selling gold.

That's what we're doing here.

Use these news stories and the shit that I've built.

This is the quilt that I've been building.

I've been sewing this for you.

Now fucking use it.

And Kirk just, he seems to not get it.

And there's something so pure about that exhale.

That

there's something just amazing about that.

Yeah.

It's the inverse, like I was telling you about physical therapy.

Whenever he put my spine back in a way, I went, ugh.

Like, I couldn't control that.

That's the opposite.

That's the, on the wheel of noises you make without any control over them.

That one's the one where it's like, Jesus fucking Christ.

Yeah, full-on exasperation.

Stress noise, anti-stress noise.

And I've been doing this fucking shit for 30 years.

Do you not understand how this game works?

Come on, ding-dong.

Ted Anderson was better than you.

I wonder if there's a part of him that is like, I am never in conversations about where I'm truly talented, which is sales.

Like,

when I was in sales,

they would have maybe be conferences and people would celebrate you for like oh your clothes rate is blah or your sales numbers are blah and people go ape shit With Alex people come up to him and they're like, oh, you're right about stuff, but they're never like you hit your fucking numbers, man.

If there's one thing about you, Alex, that I respect, it's that your quota is too low.

It's too low because you nail it.

Well, I wonder if he does.

And then I also wonder that, but that's not.

But I also think that at those sales conferences and like get-togethers,

you would not be celebrating a guy who's like fake crying and begging people and saying, I really

are way off, my man.

Those sales conferences are the most craven and desperate places that I have ever been to in my entire life.

Yeah,

I know that.

Yeah.

But they're also about image.

And I think that if somebody begged for sales, I think they might be not seen as that cool.

Sometimes.

Sometimes.

Then again, how are you really going to know?

Is it like for a lot of these people, though, they feel like anything is begging for sales, you know?

There's never, because if you say, like, you can't take no for an answer, then you're implying that you'll just eventually get to the like, please, my, please buy this from me.

Please, please buy this.

Well, I mean,

I saw Glenn Gary

Glenn Ross a number of years ago.

And as I understand, a sale is a sale.

I'll always be selling.

So, like, you know.

If you're begging someone or if you're cool, the sale is a sale.

You know what they say?

You know what they say about in baseball?

You know, single's a single.

Doesn't matter if you hit it 100 miles an hour or you bunted it.

It's not going to show up in the scorebook how hard you hit it.

Right.

Although now it does.

It does show up in the scorebook how hard you hit it.

Yeah, so I guess you can cry and beg people.

You're still hitting your quotas.

As long as your numbers are good, I don't care what you're doing.

Now, at the same time, I still think Alex's numbers are bad.

I agree with you.

But

this brings us to the end of this exploration.

And one thing that I think is really notable is on the 17th, Alex is being super like, let's all be Nazis.

Let's all, anti-Semitism is cool.

Nick Fuentes, you can't call him a bad guy.

He gets it.

This is the medicine we need.

And that does not follow along into the 18th.

The 18th, he is not continuing this thread, which actually I think is worse.

Because it's confusing.

If you're in the audience and you're watching these shows, if Alex was just like, fuck it, we hate Jews now,

and he kept that going, at least you'd have a rock to stand on.

You'd know, like, okay, this is what this show is doing now.

Right, right, right, right.

And you could choose whether you wanted to be a part of it or not.

Right.

But by doing this pretty explicitly Nazi demonstration on the 17th and then pretending this didn't happen on the 18th, it's kind of gaslighting the audience a little bit.

You know, it reminds me of,

in episodic fashion, it reminds me of a very special episode in like Saved by the Bell, where it's like, didn't she get addicted to drugs?

And we never dealt with the fallout of that.

There was just one episode where it's like, don't do drugs, and then we just moved on.

Like, everything was totally fine.

I'm so excited.

I'm so excited.

I'm so full of hate.

Right?

Like, there should have been, we got to have a follow-up.

Like, is she okay?

Like, is she, you know, has she got a treatment plan?

What's rehab like?

She was fine.

She was

fine.

Jesse was fine.

Alex is not.

No, no, no, no, no, very much.

And And we should replace him with Tori.

I think that's a great idea.

Yeah.

Anyway, oh, no, that's not good because then Alex is going to be in Showgirls.

Yeah.

Might be interesting.

Depends on what scenes you're talking about.

So we'll

get to started on writing that movie.

And we'll be back.

But until then, we have a website.

Indeed, we do.

It's ZnowledgeFight.com.

Yep.

We'll be back.

But until then, I'm Neo.

I'm Leo.

I'm DZX Clark.

I am the mysterious professor.

Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo.

And now here comes the sex robots.

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.

Thanks for holding.

Hello, Alex.

I'm a first-time caller.

I'm a huge fan.

I love your work.

I love you.