Side Stories: Movie Stories III
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Speaker 4 There's no place to escape to.
Speaker 2 This is the last podcast. On the left.
Speaker 2 Side stories?
Speaker 4 That's when the cannibalism started.
Speaker 2 Side stories. Yes.
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I mean, I want Lois Lane getting her pussy eaten out by the super dog. I want the fuck.
I mean, that's a lot. I want Superman fucking having sex with the green lantern.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 Getting himself four butts yeah that's the only way I'm watching these movies yeah is that I need multiple I need the other guys from Wakanda arriving and they're fucking having fun and they're kissing and they're sucking and they're fucking everybody's kissing I think that also it's like if Spider-Man had a hole in the suit and he could shoot webs out of his suit he does have a hole in the suit yeah he doesn't shoot webs no but it comes on magically the suit comes on magically and he's got a hat I think if he could shoot webs out of the wrist of his suit that he could shoot webs out of the cock of his suit oh yeah but he doesn't ever because everybody's leaving money on the table
Speaker 2 No, it's because they're weak and they're stupid, and it's why superhero movies are never going to properly cut the muscle. Somebody's upset.
Speaker 2
I'm not upset. Sounds like you're upset.
No, this is me having fun. This is you having fun? This is me.
Speaker 5 I'm scared of your fun. You should be.
Speaker 2 You should be because my fun doesn't leave any stone unturned. My fun does not leave any bridge unburnt.
Speaker 2
I like my superhero movies, but I understand that they have no place in this conversation. Exactly.
Because we are talking about movies about aliens today. Welcome to Side Stories.
Yes.
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My name is Henry Zabrowski. I'm sitting here with Edward Larson.
Oh no, I'm so big.
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Really good. Thank you.
And I'm also working on it.
Speaker 2 It got us all sick.
Speaker 2 We're all dying here.
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And we're also sitting here with my fetid, strange little DNA runoff, Jackie Zabrowski. It's me, it's me.
I'm all gloopy and sloopy. Oh no, am I the alien?
Speaker 5 I'm not.
Speaker 2 I'm a girl.
Speaker 2 But we still don't understand your parts.
Speaker 5
No, and you never will. And you have no idea where my tentacles are going to come out from.
But don't worry, they always come out at the wrong time.
Speaker 2 You know what I've heard? Actually, uteruses do come from Venus. Yeah.
Speaker 2
We plop down in the water. The first woman crawled out of the Indian Ocean.
This is true. Yeah.
Speaker 2
As just a uterus with fins. Interesting.
And then slowly but surely, those fins turned into tits.
Speaker 5 Then turned into a head. The most important parts.
Speaker 2 Yes, no, tits were first. Yeah, well, the uterus was first.
Speaker 5 I mean, obviously.
Speaker 2 The ute, how you got in the you?
Speaker 2
And then you got the boot, which is the butt. Yes.
And then the head. Ute and the boot.
And then the tits. Oh, yeah.
The tits are fourth and fifth. All together at once.
Speaker 2
This is not what today's episode is about. It could be.
Today's episode is about.
Speaker 5 I'll talk about utes and boots.
Speaker 2
I love utes and boots. Tell me about it.
That's my new store. That's my new Western gear store.
Speaker 2 Utin and boot. You know, man.
Speaker 2 If you're Utin, you better take a boot. Yes.
Speaker 2
We are actually going to... Utin is what women should call just living.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 We are talking about alien movies.
Speaker 5 Every day I'm mutiny.
Speaker 2 Every day I'm Utin.
Speaker 2
The reason why we're talking about alien movies is because we are headed towards contact in the desert. And we love film.
Here we've talked about film several times as a triptych.
Speaker 2 And I think that you, Eddie brought this up.
Speaker 2 I think it's good to talk about alien movies because I think even amongst sci-fi films within the sci-fi genre, you would call the alien film its own part of the genre. Yeah, they lean into horror.
Speaker 2 Sometimes.
Speaker 5 Sometimes, exactly.
Speaker 2
Sometimes they lean into discovery. Because for me, the gamut of alien movies goes from like Closer Encounters of the Third Kind to alien to things like Mac and Me.
Yes,
Speaker 2 what was the one with the horror?
Speaker 2 The other one with the guy
Speaker 2 Gossett Jr.
Speaker 2 Oh, Louis Gossett Jr. Well, enemy mind, enemy mine.
Speaker 2
Another good alien movie. Yeah, that one scared the shit out of me when I was a kid.
It's fucking weird. Stargazer.
It was Starman. Starman with the
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man who fell fell to the world. Felt nerve.
Yeah, it felt like.
Speaker 5 But then that's again, this conversation really, it depends on what we're defining alien as here.
Speaker 2 So here's what I want to I want to say. First of all, no comic books, no Marvel, no DC.
Speaker 5 aliens don't count you're saying that and you said and up top you said no superhero movies. No, but I do have one that I feel like could ebb
Speaker 5 both genres.
Speaker 2 Let's talk about it.
Speaker 5
And that is yeah, I said ebb. Just go with it.
Ebb like it's a web, okay? Like it's being spread like its legs are being spread like a web.
Speaker 2 I'm still thinking about the holes in the webs, okay?
Speaker 5 Webs have legs? Meteor man. Meteor man.
Speaker 2
Meteor man. Meteor man.
It's not a superhero movie. But it is a movie.
Speaker 5 It is a superhero movie, but it is also an alien movie. But I feel that that is a movie that encompasses both.
Speaker 2
Meteor Man. Meteor Man's fun, but Pluto Nash can go fuck.
Couldn't generally go. Pluto Nash could suck my dick.
Speaker 5 Yes, but Meteor Man is great.
Speaker 2
That is the... So you decided, of all of the films in the history of film, you went back and picked Meteor Man.
I love Meteor Man. Is he an alien?
Speaker 5 It is because
Speaker 2 he's not an alien. No, he touches a comet.
Speaker 5
That comes down. But then here's the thing.
Okay, this is what my question to you guys is. Is it still an alien? No.
It is a meteorite that comes down.
Speaker 5 But it is from outer space.
Speaker 2 No, it needs to be its own alien. All right, it has to be its own alien.
Speaker 5
I am, hey, this is a conversation. No, we're talking.
You're coming in defensive. I'm asking the question because then, alien, right? Yeah.
Foreign things coming into your country. Austin Powers.
Speaker 5 Is he an alien?
Speaker 2 No, he's not. Time traveling.
Speaker 2 That's an immigrant.
Speaker 5 He's an immigrant.
Speaker 2
Looper's not. Looper's not an alien.
He's from an alien movie.
Speaker 2
No, you're just saying the word. No, no, no, no.
But some aliens could be us from the future, Henry. Different.
But I'm just saying, guys, no, no, no, no. We immediately went off off the rail.
Speaker 2 I'm here. This is not just aliens.
Speaker 2
Because if it's going to be alien, it's Star Wars, no Star Trek. I don't care about those.
No, we will do. Yeah, no, we will do an immigrant film.
Speaker 2
I want an immigrant film serious thing. I would love to do it.
We will, but that's not today.
Speaker 5 But I only want to talk about Austin Powers when we do it.
Speaker 2
But he's also technically a federal employee. Yeah, and he's not.
He doesn't.
Speaker 2 He works for the Brits. He's not an American citizen.
Speaker 5 No, he's a British spy.
Speaker 2
Yeah, but he never swears in. But most of the movies take place in London.
Yeah. Oh, Jolio.
Speaker 2 You went down the wrong path immediately at the very top of this poll.
Speaker 5 You know what it was? It was because last night I received the assignment late. And let's say I had had quite a few hogs legs at this point, and I started laughing to myself.
Speaker 2
And you are talking about pork and not weeds. Yeah, obviously, yeah.
I'm jumping, I'm grabbing, I'm gnashing. She can tell the fat content goes up in her blood when she gets the rosation.
Yeah, baby.
Speaker 5 And I'm all flush, but not with the horn.
Speaker 2 I'm flushed with the space.
Speaker 5 But are we flushed with the space balls? And how do you feel about Barf being considered an alien?
Speaker 2
This is the thing. Again, we were trying to say no, Star Wars either.
I think Space Balls is out. Yes.
Okay. I think actually,
Speaker 2 how about this? Movies that take place in outer space are out. Well, unless they specifically involve an alien
Speaker 5 world, but mom and dad saved the world, if you think about it, that is human beings then going so then the humans are the aliens.
Speaker 2
It still is an alien-centered film. I would say Mom and Dad Save the World is an alien-centered film.
That is an alien movie. They're on an alien.
Part of it's on Earth.
Speaker 2 And part of it's on Earth, and they go up there. That has the
Speaker 2 child molester and the other guy who's a woman in that?
Speaker 5 Yeah, Chester Chester.
Speaker 2 Chester Chester?
Speaker 5 Child Molester.
Speaker 2 No, that's the dog.
Speaker 2
Patty Bertie. Patty Perkins.
Patty Perkins. Yep.
Speaker 2 So here's some other aliens.
Speaker 5 When I typed in, these are actual alien films.
Speaker 2
Terry Gard. Terry Garder.
R.I.P. And so I typed an alien film, and this is what comes up.
Contact Starman E.T. Yes.
Galaxy Quest
Speaker 2
makes sense. Galaxy Quests, I don't count.
I put
Speaker 2 because it's in space. They don't ever go to Earth.
Speaker 2
I mean, I do sort of, I see what he's saying. It's like a fantasy film.
So you don't have to.
Speaker 2
I think it's more like Lord of the Rings Rings than E.T. Still.
What about alien? And what about alien? Because alien does take place on the Nostromo. And it's hairy.
That's not an alien.
Speaker 2
It is an alien movie movie. But it is.
I think, you know what? It makes it an alien movie. It's all humans versus alien.
Sure. I can actually see that too.
I feel the same way with
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the species. Ooh, yeah.
Yeah, species. Species is fun.
Speaker 2 I mean,
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that's on Earth. Spicy.
Yeah, yeah. Good fuck movie.
Not the spicy movie. Good fuck movie.
Where's my good old-fashioned fuck movie? That's not. Ugh, baby girl.
Ugh. Yeah, baby girl sucks.
Speaker 2 Natalie and I tried to watch it, and both of it had the opposite.
Speaker 2 No, it's not.
Speaker 2
It had the opposite effect on the woman. No, I think it was very demeaning to women, and we'll get into it on a different podcast.
Yeah, on the immigrant podcast where women are immigrants.
Speaker 5 I would love to have a kink conversation with both of you. No, it's not demeaning.
Speaker 2 It's oh, it's completely
Speaker 2
she still needs a man. Okay.
She still needs a dude. If she was completely independent, she could have sex with a vacuum.
She should have fired fired his fucking ass. Yeah, she'd been like, fuck you.
Speaker 2 Don't you disrespect me. I'm the boss.
Speaker 5 You guys know so much more about the female experience than I do, and I appreciate you both.
Speaker 2 Now,
Speaker 2 you're not an expert here. I feel in this room.
Speaker 5 So then, but then I'd love to talk about alien comedies because I didn't realize.
Speaker 5 In thinking about all of these alien movies, I realize as a whole, I am way more scared of space in general than I am of individual aliens.
Speaker 2 That's why you grip on Jeff so hard?
Speaker 5 Yeah, because he's got a big space.
Speaker 2 No, you're scared of him leaving.
Speaker 5
Oh yeah. But also I'm scared of the gravity going away and me just being sucked up into the universe.
But that's just, you know, you got to grip onto the ones that you love. Yes.
I am.
Speaker 2 You wear a space belt. Yeah.
Speaker 2 You wouldn't drift into space.
Speaker 5 Well, no, that's to keep my space pants up.
Speaker 2
No, the space belt. Those are the space pants.
They're attacked to your space shirt.
Speaker 2
Yeah. It's all attached.
Yeah, yeah, it's all attached, baby.
Speaker 5 i wanted to talk about cone heads and i wanted to talk about earth girls are easy i had to see somebody take a sandwich like that since my mom yeah
Speaker 5 cone heads is amazing cone heads a wonderful movie now last night i was with some friends and we were going to watch earth girls are easy because of this prompt but then we had the conversation of does it hold up We didn't end up, we talked about it for so long, we didn't end up watching the movie.
Speaker 5 But then in talking through it, that I was like, I think it still holds up. When was the last time you watched Earth Girls Are Easy? 25 years.
Speaker 5 Yeah, it's been a really long time, and I remember I loved it. Yeah, I loved those things.
Speaker 2
Well, think about the fact that Jeff Goldblum, Jim Carrey, and I believe Damon Wayans are the three aliens in that movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And
Speaker 2
they do it. That was stacked because I wondered about the time they did Once Bitten.
But you know what? To be honest, I am not a fan of the 80s screwball sex comedy. I am kind of over it.
Speaker 2 Earth Girls Are Easy is very much a screwball sex comedy more than anything else. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 And I, like, because I like, I want my alien movies for the most part to have a touch of, like, you can go to fantasy, like Flight of the Navigator. Great.
Speaker 2
I love Flight of the Navigator because it both is an adventure film. I like all Florida movies.
All sure.
Speaker 2 And, but, it's also this, it has a touch of why we're making a movie about an alien, which is we're introducing another way of thinking.
Speaker 2 We are, we're going on, we're, we're expanding our experience in a way that we would never be able to get on our own and so there's something about flight of the navigator that to me is one of those
Speaker 2 That's a good example of the difference between that and Earth Girls are easy, which is just to see Gina Davis with no brawn. Of course.
Speaker 5 Is there a trauma that happens in Flight of the Navigator? Because I don't, I don't, I haven't seen it since I was a kid, but I remember something about it that really made me very sad.
Speaker 5 It's just all I remember.
Speaker 2
All 80s child movies back in the day had a wonderful sense of what it actually was like to be a kid, which is sad. Which is and dangerous.
Yeah. And scary.
And they rancer.
Speaker 2 Yeah, they would allow things to be sad. They would allow things to be scary for kids, unlike now where they're not allowed to feel any emotion.
Speaker 2 So they are now obviously everything's all saccharin and everything's all about
Speaker 2
everything's fine or whatever. Yeah.
But it's like this stuff is like, it's nice. You just remember this because it felt like because the kid was genuinely on his own.
Yeah.
Speaker 2
And you all had well that and he was hanging out with the alien who became like real friends with. Yes, right.
And then, what the trauma is, they tried to take his friend from him, yeah.
Speaker 5 And so, maybe just as a kid and seeing that, it just really I and I haven't seen it since.
Speaker 5 And I was also thinking about watching last night, and I was like, I feel like I just remember a profound sadness in watching this.
Speaker 2 It's called nostalgia, it's got ET, it's got the E.T. vibe, it's got the Mac and Me vibe where you become friends and someone wants to steal your friend.
Speaker 2 And one of my hardest things about like truly about E.T., which I'll always kind of like, I am thankful that they have gone ahead and I guess re-put the guns back in. Yes.
Speaker 2
I believe that they did that. You can watch either version.
When they took the guns out of the movie,
Speaker 2
in the end, like Spielberg went back. He wanted to make sure it was like good for kids or whatever.
He CGI'd E.T. a little bit, like him hopping over logs and shit like that.
Speaker 2 But they did a sheen over it. It was really funny.
Speaker 2 So bad.
Speaker 2 Yeah, he looks like Kermit.
Speaker 5 Oh, but I love Kermit's little legs.
Speaker 2 I do too, but it's different than when it's E.T.
Speaker 2 And so it's like, but that was like one of those things where I watched that and I was like, when you take the guns out of their hands, I know why you're doing it, but you're also removing the stakes.
Speaker 2
Yes. Yes.
You're removing what this is really about.
Speaker 2 If you remove the stakes, I ain't coming.
Speaker 2 Why about you?
Speaker 2 Why about you?
Speaker 2 Yeah, I know. E.T., but yeah,
Speaker 2
they re-released it, but now you can watch the older version if you get your hands on it, I believe. But E.T.
is like, I still very much, obviously.
Speaker 2 et is an unbelievable film now how about this et or close encounters close encounters close encounters every time yeah i think i go et actually really i think close encounters is like if you're like henry and you're a bigger fan of aliens in general it's got the lore all of it it's got it's got the research
Speaker 2 also the idea that maybe spielberg like this is where i love the conspiracy edge too because spielberg At the time, he had government consultants working on that movie. Yes.
Speaker 2 Jacques Villais, who was one of my, obviously, one of my favorite theoreticians, my favorite alien thinkers, he was also a consultant on the movie.
Speaker 2
He's portrayed as a character within the movie, the French guy. Yes.
And Close Encounters of the Third Kind is based off of that guy.
Speaker 2
And so Spielberg technically was told many times that this was like there. That's why there's a lot of conspiracy theories.
Is Ship in the Desert something that actually happened?
Speaker 2 No, but the idea of the U.S. government coming up with a communication protocol to talk with something that doesn't speak is actually, I guess, like part of the government research he got that he
Speaker 2 like slipped into the movie.
Speaker 5 I'm sorry, you mean like arrival, like what happens in arrival, that that's what
Speaker 2 basically the idea of using tones, like when he does the whole like the talking to the aliens, right? That came from a government
Speaker 2 concept of if we are approached by another species or something from outer space,
Speaker 2
how do we communicate? Whoa. And so that is what's awesome.
That's what's awesome. And then
Speaker 2
I feel like that's almost Steven Spielberg's crowning achievement is Close Encounters of the Third Kind. And it's just, the end's beautiful.
It's wonderful.
Speaker 2 I love with, by the way, there's going to be spoilers in this
Speaker 2
video. Yeah, if you're going to see Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
I don't know why.
Speaker 2 I think we're going to be loose-lipped for the rest of the episode.
Speaker 2 Yeah, I think that you should know that there will be some spoilers ahead.
Speaker 2 But at the end, with the aliens, when he got the who he got little girls to portray the aliens, he liked all the little aliens at the end, you know how they're walking around, they're all like chill girls, like
Speaker 2 because he liked the way they moved, he liked the way they like were gentle and like and stuff like that. Yeah, they're all little kids.
Speaker 2
He didn't want to be, he didn't want people to be scared of them. He wanted people to like be enamored with them.
And so they're all cast as they're all little girls.
Speaker 2 What is more enamoring than the movement of a little girl?
Speaker 2 Nothing is more, nothing makes me more filled with amor. Nobody
Speaker 2 said they want to fuck across the camera.
Speaker 2 I am
Speaker 2 deeply, deeply attracted
Speaker 2 to the movement of a little girl.
Speaker 2
Is that the guy you're singing? Sankalm. Jacques Villa.
Oh, God. Yeah, Jacques Villa actually was the first person to sing that song.
And also, Spielberg, we got to mention War of the Worlds.
Speaker 2 I think that War of the Worlds, we talked about this right before we started recording, is a sleeper, fantastic movie. I really like it, but I think that it lost its cock at the end of the movie.
Speaker 2 It did.
Speaker 2 You know, when they let the kid, when they didn't kill the son,
Speaker 2 they should have killed that motherfucker.
Speaker 2
He was an idiot. Show people that there's consequences for your fucking idiot actions.
I agree. You know, like, there should be more kids.
Speaker 2 Killing.
Speaker 2
I've talked talked about this. Yeah.
Kill the child.
Speaker 2
Let the kids know that if you fuck up, you die in the film. You die.
You dead, dude. All right.
Tom Cruise is not coming back. He's five foot two.
He's not going to protect you. All right.
Speaker 2
He doesn't care. He's out there looking for a dick to suck.
But he's not here to protect you, little boy.
Speaker 5 No, or a fish to suck his dick.
Speaker 2 It depends on what he's looking for. And he, or maybe he was a Namah
Speaker 2
with the activities of a little girl. Oh, yeah.
Here it comes, full circle. The fish is the woman.
Wow.
Speaker 2 Where are your gills?
Speaker 5 They're underneath my flaps.
Speaker 2
Yep. Member, ute.
Tips. Yeah, gills.
Speaker 5 The gills come seventh in importance. It depends on how you look at the gills and how much you want to stick your dick inside of them.
Speaker 2 You're already talking. He already brought up Predator.
Speaker 2 Tell us about prompts, Eddie. You have to do that.
Speaker 2
Well, Predator, I mean, well, first of all, we talked about arrival. Let's talk about arrival here.
So that's the first contact film. Yeah.
Speaker 2 Well, I'd almost say it's his own genre itself, even amongst alienations. So I have
Speaker 2
then let's go back even further. Alien abduction versus alien invasion versus alien contact.
Yes. There's three different things here.
Yes.
Speaker 2 There's three different things going on here. I think alienation
Speaker 2
are horror movies. Yes.
Alien invasion are action movies and alien contacts are kind of like drama. That's actually really
Speaker 2
good breakdown. Yeah.
It's a very, very good breakdown because it's true. All the alien abduction movies, Dark Skies,
Speaker 2 Fire in the Sky,
Speaker 2 there's a communion. They all have an edge of the horror to it, which is the truth of being space raped.
Speaker 5 And also
Speaker 5
being brought to an unknown place. That's already very upsetting, and you never get taken to a second location.
I know these things.
Speaker 2 We know these things.
Speaker 2
But abductions are also, I'm trying to think of, like, my mind, I'm trying to think of a, you know, what's a positive alien abduction movie? What? Cocoon. Cocoon.
Well, do they get abducted?
Speaker 2 Well, sorta.
Speaker 2
That's an invasion. They come and they put the eggs in the pool.
And the old person. Are they all aliens at the time? I don't remember Cocoon.
Cocoon, they come.
Speaker 2 It's an old person's home and they show up and they're like, there's like 45 weird eggs in the bottom of the pool.
Speaker 2 You know, and there's like these giant eggs in the pool and they're trying to figure out what it is. And then all of a sudden, like, they all get powerful.
Speaker 5 Am I wrong that I just remember this being very, very boring, but I haven't seen it sit for a very long time.
Speaker 2
I went to the theater. Yeah.
I remember loving it as a kid. I didn't like it.
To be honest with you. but I also, I mean, Dama Michi, so much fun.
Brian Denahy, Wilford Grimley. I mean, like, this is.
Speaker 2 You can't find this movie now, by the way. It's out of print and it's not streaming anywhere.
Speaker 2 Why?
Speaker 2 Apparently, it's like selling very high on eBay. That's so funny.
Speaker 2 I thought it was. Why? It was a Ron Howard movie that's
Speaker 2
an unfortunate. It's like a forgotten classic.
I mean, look at the fucking cast. Like, I know that you guys don't know.
If you're younger than the age of 35,
Speaker 2 the boot, and the goot, I mean, get me there. Dude, if you're you're younger than the age of 35, there used to be a thing called character actors.
Speaker 2 And what they used to do is they used to have people that looked like people you'd meet on the street, but they'd be actors and they'd be in things. And one of those things.
Speaker 5 And now we just don't get jobs. They just don't.
Speaker 2 Well, they just don't.
Speaker 2 You either have to be deformed
Speaker 2 or you have to.
Speaker 2 And they're only going to make so many mask movies.
Speaker 2 There's only so many.
Speaker 2
You get one fat girl movie a year. Yep.
That's how you get it. If you don't get it, that well shit out of luck.
Sorry about it. We already put a fat one in.
And so this one had, you know, who's huge?
Speaker 2
It's Don Amici. Don Amici is an amazing character actor.
I believe was also in Batteries Not Included. I think he was.
Batteries Not Included was an amazing movie.
Speaker 5 But not an alien movie.
Speaker 2 Yes, it is.
Speaker 5 Oh, it is. Oh, I was thinking of short circuit because I was looking at Batteries Not Included, and I was looking at short circuits.
Speaker 5 Short circuit's not an alien movie.
Speaker 2
No, that's not a crazy one. We will do a come to life movie.
That's Robot Come to Life movie. We will do a robot.
Speaker 2 Just like that's Chappie is short circuit, and batteries unincluded is more district nine.
Speaker 2 That's fascinating right down to it. Yes,
Speaker 2 very good. Yeah, I do.
Speaker 2 You know what's funny?
Speaker 2 We love batteries.
Speaker 5 I do love batteries unincluded.
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Speaker 2 What I think is important when we talk about this dumb stuff, right?
Speaker 2 Like we're sitting here partially, it's obviously we're having fun on the show and we like talking about movies, but it really is important, I think, to filmmakers.
Speaker 2 and i've heard this said in filmmaking class which is the idea of know your genre yeah it doesn't matter what anybody else thinks about the movie if you know what the genre of the movie is as the maker.
Speaker 2 And so that perspective changes everything.
Speaker 2 And it really requires, I think, unfortunately, the real education of a filmmaker is watching movies and identifying what are the telltale signs of very specific genres.
Speaker 2 Because then, what you can do is, if you're a really good filmmaker, you can manipulate the traditional chapters of a genre film to tell stories.
Speaker 2
But it's important to know those very traditional chapters. Right.
And that they are very distinct versions of movies.
Speaker 2 And it's funny until you start to really pick them all apart to see, like, there really is entire veins of, you could see producers in the 80s saying the having kind of dumb ass conversations like this that are actually extremely important to the art.
Speaker 2
Absolutely. I mean, it's alien movies are very deep.
They're way deeper than you think they are. Oh, yeah.
You know, a lot of times they reflect society, which I think is really fucking cool.
Speaker 2 Well, that's also the best part of horror and genre. I feel like horror as a genre is one of the best.
Speaker 2 Same thing with sci-fi. Sci-fi and horror are such a great entertaining way to deliver ideas as well, especially sci-fi.
Speaker 2 Sci-fi is like, that's why in the end, I love sci-fi is because it delivers cool concepts
Speaker 2
in an entertaining way. I like District 9 is kind of about apartheid.
Very much so.
Speaker 2 So it's very, I love that.
Speaker 5 District 9 is so good.
Speaker 2 I love District 9.
Speaker 2
I feel like that movie, people, I hear a lot of people say they don't like it. No, it's because he lost the pole.
I think the director himself kind of lost it. It got nominated for Best Picture.
Speaker 2
But the rest of his movies were not very Elysian. I love Wisdom 9.
I love Chappie. I'm a Chappie sympathizer.
I hate it.
Speaker 5 But District 9 was very good.
Speaker 5 And it has great re-watchability. I hate it for me, Chappie.
Speaker 5 Chappie Ruin, not for me.
Speaker 2
There's a sequel coming. Of Chappie? Chappie? District 9.
District.
Speaker 2
I've been working on it for like 10 years. Yeah, District 69.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fucking hear your name and flip it upside down.
He pussied it. They're fucking eat your prawn.
I'm going to slap you.
Speaker 2
I'm going to fucking skin you. I'm going to take your shell off.
I'm skinning your spot in your little legs. Nobody pussy's my asshole.
I want to bring up a movie that I...
Speaker 5 It was one of the first movies I thought of when you said alien movies, and it was one of my favorites as a child, and that was Purple People Eater.
Speaker 2 One-on-one, hardline, purple people.
Speaker 2 One-on-one, hardline, purple people.
Speaker 5 Do you remember the movie?
Speaker 2 Absolutely.
Speaker 5 I was obsessed with that movie.
Speaker 2 We all were. Slapsick
Speaker 2 children.
Speaker 5
So weird. And I feel like that's why, in going back through, I have so many more memories.
And I don't know if it was because I was born in the late 80s of Zaney alien movies.
Speaker 5 Like, yes, when I think alien movies, first, also, one of the first things I thought of, Little Shop of Horrors.
Speaker 2 That's more of where my brain goes. Yes, it is.
Speaker 2 Yes, that is an alien movie. And it's an alien, very much an alien movie.
Speaker 5 It's from outer space.
Speaker 2 It's a trend.
Speaker 5 I think, yeah, I think of like, you know, a Rocky Horror picture show.
Speaker 2 I think of the Rocky Horror Horror House.
Speaker 2
They're aliens from the planet Transylvania. From the planet Transylvania.
Oh, that's not a a Frankenstein movie. No.
Oh, actually, there's part of the movie. Have you never seen Rocky Horror?
Speaker 2
I have, but I'm always hammered. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
It is. It's so.
Speaker 5 I think that, like, having, I would love to do a big, like, go and do like an experience. I've never actually gone.
Speaker 2
It's done a couple times. It's a lot of fun.
Yeah. It's a lot of fun.
I have friends that do it in,
Speaker 2
like, they do it regularly. And it, yeah, it sounds like a blast.
I just never, I've never
Speaker 2
stumbled upon it in Phoenix when I was by myself at midnight, and I had one seat left. It was amazing.
I had such a great time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 Little Shop of Horrors is very good and really did scare me.
Speaker 5 That, I think, scared me more than the original Alien did when I saw it young, just because I
Speaker 5 thought it could happen. Like in a way that I think when I was a kid, I thought Alien could never happen, but Little Shop of Horrors could.
Speaker 2 And I know that's very stupid.
Speaker 2
Well, because you're in space and you can relate to New York. You can't relate to a spaceship.
You're
Speaker 2
scared of Event Horizon. Yes, because we grew up in Skid Row.
Yo, Skid Row.
Speaker 2 Oh,
Speaker 2 and I love Little Shop of Horrors. You know, I think that I wonder what it is.
Speaker 2 Maybe let's ask this question because I wonder if, again, if you're younger than 30, if you've experienced this, where when we were growing up, I remember being
Speaker 2 vaguely traumatized by certain films when I was a kid that now I look at and are not
Speaker 2
scary. Right.
Well, you don't have restrictions on you, right? You can watch anything. Semi, sorta.
I mean, like, but it was the stuff that was interesting. It was the stuff like
Speaker 5 you're showing us the look who's talking toilet.
Speaker 2 Look who's toilet talking to the toilet.
Speaker 5 That was look who's talking to, right? I think so.
Speaker 2 You know what mine was?
Speaker 2 Give me your piece. Give me your p.
Speaker 2
Yes. You know what was mine? It was the opening sequence from Amazing Stories.
Oh.
Speaker 2 The opening sequence from Amazing Stories that was the steven spielberg's basically twilight zone red tv show yes yes that was truly play this this for some reason it still brings chills to my fucking spine for some reason this the song of it does is that just
Speaker 2 no this is a sexy scene there's a second this is a clip because it's a uh there is that remember that when he got the ring he buys the ring from the pawn shop yes and it's danny devito and real pearlman yeah oh my god yes
Speaker 5 i don't know why this I remember this.
Speaker 2
This freaks me out. It's like, it literally makes all the hate.
I love it.
Speaker 2
It shows you, like, this is like spaceship Earth. It is.
It shows you, like, the evolution of storytelling.
Speaker 2 Something about the music and about the caveman being lost in the dark and then the top hat.
Speaker 5 Top hat and magic.
Speaker 2 Oh, those dirty magician liars. I don't like their lying.
Speaker 2 Life isn't an illusion.
Speaker 2
Life is real, Magician Man. I gotta watch that.
I haven't seen this legitimately since I was a child. Amazing Stories really holds up.
Yeah. I've watched a fuck ton of
Speaker 2
Toil Zone movie. They're all Obi Twilight Zone movies.
Except for the murder he committed. It's actually, it's a perfect.
It's not a murder. It was an accidental death.
That is going to get.
Speaker 5 They were being fast and loose. That was some murder.
Speaker 2 They were being fast and loose, but at the same time, they didn't kill anyone on purpose.
Speaker 2 Unfortunately, it's just the idea that movies are supposed to be just so important that it doesn't matter what happens to anybody involved.
Speaker 2 Like, that's like one of those things that I'll always sort of like, there's a bitter taste in my mouth because it led to the Rust stuff and it led to the Almo Brothers stuff with Sarah Brown and Sarah Jones.
Speaker 2 And it led to all that stuff where it's like that idea that, you know, we're all, we need to be so thankful to be in this
Speaker 2 industry that we can die for it. But accidents do happen on any job.
Speaker 2
I agree. I agree.
It was mostly just everybody saying. It's not like a line cook's never been dead, you know?
Speaker 2 Well, most of the time a line cook is killed by an ex-stroll friend or someone else on staff.
Speaker 2
That's different. Again, they just are.
They chose the life. Line Cook Life chose them.
What are some recent alien films that you've seen?
Speaker 2
Alien, obviously, we're not talking about the alien series, but like a movies about aliens that you've seen. I'll go first.
Last night, I wanted to prepare a little bit, so I put two on.
Speaker 2
I didn't make it through the second one, but I saw No One Will Save You, the Hulu original, new new film. Yes, it's I.
Yes, I. It was better than I thought it was going to be.
Speaker 2 I wish I would have known that there's no dialogue in the movie.
Speaker 2
Oh, my God. That was, I remember I'm 30 minutes in.
I'm like, are they not talking? Yeah.
Speaker 2
Well, I got technically Alien Romulus was fine. I really liked it.
I liked it. I liked it better than Prometheus.
That's fine. Oh, fucking fan.
Of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2
I thought that was fine. I saw that one.
And then, is Dune an alien movie? No. No, Dune's in the Star Trek
Speaker 2
genre of it. I mean, it's the fantasy.
Have you ever seen Sputnik? No. Sputnik is a very good alien horror film.
Yeah. Very, very good.
Speaker 2 And there was another one about, remember that the moon's dangerous? The one where they go up on the moon. I want to say it's Apollo.
Speaker 2 It's a couple.
Speaker 2
They made it a couple years ago. Yes, Apollo, like 19.
They go to the moon.
Speaker 2
They go to the moon, and it turns out the moon's got bugs on it. It's got evil bugs on it.
Yeah, not dangerous. It's called Apollo something.
It's Apollo something.
Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. That's another one of the more recent reasons.
Speaker 2
Of course, Google's like, Apollo 13. No.
No, I know what that is. Yes, it's Apollo 11.
Speaker 5 Is a quiet place an alien movie? Yes. They are aliens.
Speaker 2 Alien invasion.
Speaker 5 They are aliens. It's an alien invasion.
Speaker 2 Okay. Yeah,
Speaker 2 that quiet place prequel, whatever that other one is. God, that was hot garbage.
Speaker 2 You're telling me the cat isn't going to meow one fucking time? One time.
Speaker 2 One meow out of that cat.
Speaker 5
The original one was pretty good. I thought it was pretty good.
It's not like it's not, yeah, it didn't break the bank.
Speaker 2 Do you know how many movies came out in a row about being quiet? Yeah. There was like five movies in a row about being quiet.
Speaker 5 And I think you know which one won? Don't breathe. And don't breathe was obviously.
Speaker 2
Made for $2 million and so good. And that is our Be Quiet film movie genre.
Episode 7: The Quiet Place. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
One thing I like about the quiet place, no cokeheads.
Speaker 5
Sadness. Yeah, man.
They're not tweaking out loud enough.
Speaker 2
But also, Cloverfield Lane. 10 Cloverfield Lane is fucking awesome.
Yes, one of John Goodman's greatest roles. Tragedy, he didn't get nominated.
Yes. He puts on a display of acting in that film.
Speaker 2
I love 10. It's one of the movies on my list.
I think it's one of my favorite alien films. I love that movie.
Yeah, it's terrifying. It's three different genres in one.
Speaker 2 You know, it's like, it's like a
Speaker 2
capture? What would you call that? Like a kidnapping film, I guess? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, I would put it as a,
Speaker 2 you know what's funny? It's in the Be Quiet movie category.
Speaker 2
Yes, it is. And we're saving it for that episode.
It's in the be quiet movie category. Unfortunately, that's its own whole other thing.
Everybody's got to be quiet. So how do you feel about.
Speaker 2
Can I let out of the bag who we're going to interview at Contact of the Desert? Of course. We're going to interview Whitley Schreber at Contact in the Desert.
Very excited.
Speaker 2
So I'm like, once I found out last night that Communion is actually about him, written by him, wrote the screenplay and the book. Yes.
I got halfway through it.
Speaker 2
I'm enjoying it, but it is a little silly. It's dated for sure.
The Christopher Walken thing, it is quite dated. The aliens are definitely puppets.
There is a weird thing with Christopher Walker.
Speaker 2 I like Puckins.
Speaker 5 Christopher Walkins really give in a very age.
Speaker 2
I think these are behind the scenes. This is from the movie.
Yes. This is from the movie.
Speaker 2
I didn't get to this part. He dances like this in the movie.
He can't help it. You know, it's like Sam Rockwell.
He's going to dance if he's in a a film. Yes.
You know, he used to be a dancer.
Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I, I, like, how do you feel about communion? Is it accurate? And then a follow-up question, Henry.
Speaker 2 What is the most accurate movie about alien invasions that you or something like that that you would think of? I personally think
Speaker 2 the most accurate
Speaker 2
is I love arrival. Okay.
I love the idea of something truly alien that it is very difficult for us to understand. Love that.
Speaker 2 I think that's a part of what the main issue is, is that we expect these things to show up and we'd even recognize them. Yes.
Speaker 2 And then communion, you'd probably close to put the most directly
Speaker 2 consulted by somebody that was abducted by aliens.
Speaker 2 So I guess technically you would say it would have to be the most accurate.
Speaker 2 Because he was the guy that wrote it was abducted by aliens. Fire in the sky.
Speaker 2 Fire in the sky had a lot of liberties i don't know if travis walton necessarily was even involved with the making of fire in the sky because it's based off of the book i believe that he was more inspired oh he's in it he's in the movie he's in the movie but i don't know if he makes a cameo so i think he's i mean he co-signs it for sure when we saw him speak in contact in the desert he showed scenes from the film of course yeah yeah i mean he's got to be pro it yeah but like what do you so you think arrival would be the most accurate to what we're talking about here like uh like you know know, I mean, I go back and forth.
Speaker 2 I mean, because it's so over the top, and like, they're making like a clear point that,
Speaker 2 first of all, don't be scared of them. Well, you know, and it's just as much a time travel movie as it is.
Speaker 2
Yeah, I do. Yeah, you know, it's hard because, in my mind, I still believe that there's way more of a psychic component to the whole thing.
I think that the idea of the
Speaker 2
entire scenario being kind of wrapped up in one movie is actually quite difficult. Yeah, I think Close Encounters might be the most accurate.
Sure.
Speaker 2 Because it's got the orbs, it's got the, you know, it's got a lot of things that are taken straight from people's experience. Oh, yes.
Speaker 2 And then the idea of being feeling like you're special, like you're being spoken to, like you're, you got chose. Richard Dreyfus was chosen in that film.
Speaker 2 A lot of times people talk about abduction scenarios going on by the time when the when people that have been abducted that remember past a certain age, they then kind of go into either some form of regression therapy or something where then they begin to think that they're or maybe come to realize that they have been getting abducted since they were a kid.
Speaker 2 Yeah.
Speaker 2 So that would also reflect that.
Speaker 2 And then I do think it's Mac and Me.
Speaker 2
Yeah. And I think that's the final one.
Yeah.
Speaker 2
Because it has to have a butthole. It has to have a butthole for a mouth.
Yes. You know what other one I like a lot? Contact.
Contact is a very emotional movie. Yeah, I enjoy contact.
Speaker 2
I think it is, it's definitely, it has its silly parts to it. And like it gets a little weird with the Matthew McConaughey and all that stuff.
But I love the Jake Busey character.
Speaker 2 He's terrifying to me. And, you know, it's just sad.
Speaker 2 Do you think Jake Busey like frightens his family and his friends? Obviously.
Speaker 2 Did you see that Gary Busey's grandson has a band? It's a one-man band that he does fake rave music with.
Speaker 5 Oh, so he's not like playing the accordion or anything.
Speaker 2
Is it Jake's kid? Or is it one of, it was another child's? No, it's some other child's because the guy's too old. Oh, okay.
But yeah, I mean, that's nothing to do with what we're talking about.
Speaker 2
No, I think. Gary Busey could be an alien.
Yeah. He definitely could have.
Speaker 5 I have a question for you guys because you said, all right, no movies that completely occur in space, but what about sphere?
Speaker 5 Now, that is in space, but that is an alien to, or it's like at least, you know, something that is
Speaker 2 too
Speaker 2 sphere's kind of water-ish, isn't it?
Speaker 5 Esque, but it's also
Speaker 5 read you and you go inside of it and and like no, so it is no alien to it.
Speaker 2
Now we know about aliens more than ever. They are probably if they are somehow based on the planet Earth, they probably are coming from the water.
Yes. Okay.
That makes sense. Wow.
Sphere.
Speaker 2
I haven't thought about sphere in a lot of time. I loved the movie.
I saw this in the theater and I remember really not liking it.
Speaker 2 Really? Yeah, I remember.
Speaker 2 Watch it again.
Speaker 5 It's great.
Speaker 2 It's a Michael Crichton film.
Speaker 5
I mean, it's very bad. It's not good.
It's, I understand if you were young watching it. I like watching it now.
And I think it's maybe because I watched it so many times when I was young. Yeah.
Speaker 5 That I always enjoy it. It's not, you don't watch it for it to be good, though.
Speaker 2
Okay. I have two more esoteric choices that I absolutely love.
Oh, yeah. Annihilation.
I love Annihilation. But that's, you know, that's on another.
Annihilation is great. You know what else?
Speaker 2
Can I say something about Annihilation? I feel like... The plot from Annihilation was borrowed from for Frozen 2.
And I think that they fucking ripped off Annihilation.
Speaker 2 Well, you know what they took it off?
Speaker 2 Okay, you're all
Speaker 2 okay.
Speaker 5 I thought you meant that Frozen 2 or that
Speaker 2
Space Invaders. No, the other way.
Oh, right. Space Invaders is fun.
Speaker 2
Space Invaders is a lot of fun. Oh, shit.
Yeah, this movie's a blast. Everyone knows about Space Invaders.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is very stupid.
Speaker 2 It's actually not good at all, but it's worth watching. I would see that again.
Speaker 2 Yeah, no, definitely, you know, biggest joint you can roll for sure.
Speaker 2 You know what I'm saying? Space
Speaker 2
You know, way better than Paul. I hate Paul.
Paul sucks. Right? I hate Paul.
Paul was garbage. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Seth McFarland's not good at movies. He's not, is he? No.
Speaker 2 Although I am very excited for the new naked gun.
Speaker 2 I'll see it.
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You know, but with Annihilation, you know what Annihilation is. Annihilation is essentially a retrofitting of Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad.
same thing as the same thing as Apocalypse Now.
Speaker 2 Same thing as these.
Speaker 2
It's all about traveling into a thing. Technically also Annihilation borrows a lot from a sci-fi author by the name of J.G.
Ballard, who wrote a book called The Crystal World that is just like this.
Speaker 2
It's just this, like, a weird force has arrived. It's changing a part of this one part of the country.
Scientists are arriving in there to try to figure it out. Yeah.
Speaker 2 And it's a, there's something about that that travel in.
Speaker 2
No one saw Annihilation. I feel like it got like unjustly, like, I don't know, panned, or I don't know what happened to that movie and why it wasn't popular.
It was probably a fucking name.
Speaker 5 Alex Garland.
Speaker 2
Same guy you did. Is that X-Machin? No, no, no.
That is X-Machina. You're right.
And Civil War. Yeah.
Speaker 2
Yeah. Warfare.
And Civil War and Warfare. Wow, okay.
Speaker 2 So I like all of us movies.
Speaker 2
It's a new Iraq War. Yeah, it's the new Iraq War movie.
It's good. Is it funny? Yeah, it's hilarious.
It's hilarious. Yeah, it's a laugh amen.
It takes place in real time. Oh, wow.
It's very good.
Speaker 2 Oh, that's. Oh, but it's.
Speaker 5 But he's also doing 28 years later, which I am excited.
Speaker 2
Oh, I thought that was Danny Boyle. That's Danny Boyle.
Oh, is it? I thought it was Alex Garland. No, Danny Boyle.
Speaker 2 They're putting Michael Gandhi
Speaker 2 in more things. He was good.
Speaker 2 He was good.
Speaker 5 He's good in Warfare.
Speaker 2
He's good. Yeah.
Oh, did you see Warfare? Yeah. Oh, well.
Both of us saw it. Oh, we didn't go together, but we saw it.
But we both saw it. Yeah.
All right. Let's move on to
Speaker 2 alien films we don't like.
Speaker 2 I'll go first.
Speaker 2
Pitch Black and Signs. Don't like either one of them.
You know, Pitch Black is funny because that's that's a Vin Diesel effort outside of Triple X that I actually kind of like.
Speaker 2 Because nowadays, you know what's funny about those style of, like,
Speaker 2 this genre is that at this point, because of the superhero genre, it makes these movies look way better. Okay.
Speaker 2
Without the super. If you got rid of the superhero movies, place in space, so I go, I'm going against my own voice.
But if you got rid of the superhero genre,
Speaker 2 we would still be bagging on these movies.
Speaker 2 But because superhero movies are such a waste of everybody's time and such a waste of the economy and money and shit, these movies you just showed that like, look at this.
Speaker 2
Like, this was made for like $25 million. You dumb gods.
Don't you hate the superhero genre?
Speaker 2 We do ads for them. Yeah.
Speaker 2
Yeah, I fucking can't stand them. I think Thunderbolts is going to be great.
The problem with the movies, my main issue truly is just the I'm not going to watch 10 movies to watch one movie.
Speaker 2
You don't have to. That's just idiot proof.
No, but then that's the problem is that now I'm watching them as an idiot and I've done this.
Speaker 2 I've tried to watch them out of sequence and then I watch one that I'm sort of vaguely interested in and they have all these references to a bunch of shit that I couldn't possibly give a fuck about and it's all this other stuff where it's like just make this one movie and you I would have bought a ticket to it.
Speaker 2
This was just one standalone film. I could just watch the movie.
That's why I watch movies and I hate television series. I don't watch television series because guess what?
Speaker 2
They never end and they just fucking keep going. You really don't watch it.
I don't like TV that much, but I do watch some of it. You watch none of it.
None. I watch none.
I watch people.
Speaker 2
You watch trash TV. I watch trash reality TV, documentaries.
I watch my drag race. I watch my, I got Project Runways coming back.
Speaker 2 And then I watch movies. See, I watch none of that, and I watch some
Speaker 2
actual TV. Yeah, every time I watch a TV, I don't like it.
You're such a fucking coward. I actually like it.
Speaker 2
It's not for me. I hate the thing, too.
You know what I really, really fucking hate? What I really fucking hate when somebody does it.
Speaker 2 he open this yeah it's when they hate when they like it's just there's too many storylines all at once
Speaker 2 and everybody it's just like i i just don't i don't care you love twins
Speaker 2 i you know you know what's proof that henry doesn't like tv shows you hate the dune show
Speaker 2 i'm not allowed to we have to cut that
Speaker 2 you'll have to cut it we do ads for marvel movies marvel movies they don't even hear what we say
Speaker 2 we have no idea what we say we love them we love them.
Speaker 2
No, you know what it is about them. I guess it's like, I don't mean to be that butthurt about it.
It's just like, I feel like you could probably like, I'm watching our friend, Ryan Kukler. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 Oh, is this how you're referring to him now?
Speaker 2 All right, great.
Speaker 2 I'm watching him get run over the coals in the trades, all bagging him for his money, how little, quote unquote, how much money that show was supposed to movie, was supposed to make sinners and shit.
Speaker 2 It's killing it. It's an R-rated movie that's number one in the box office two weeks in a row
Speaker 2 yeah dude but they're comparing it to the everyone in china is seeing the new marvel movie money that they have to make these marvel movies have to make yes hundreds of millions almost a billion dollars just to break even and it is killing us yeah it is killing the entire industry well it's bringing back into independent film no it's not yet because they're all dogging on the independent films that sort of do well.
Speaker 2
Sinners is not an independent film. They are viewed.
That's how fucked shit is, Eddie. That's fucking fucking buster.
But that's how shit. That's how fucked shit is right now, Eddie.
Speaker 2 But that's viewed as a scrappy movie that might just make it. It's like, it's a fucking, a huge tent-pole horror summer film, you morons.
Speaker 5 There's two Michael B. Jordans in it.
Speaker 2
It just gets to a point where it's like, how much money are we all supposed to make? Yes. No, but that movie's going to fucking, it's killing it.
It already made back its money. No, I love it.
Speaker 2 I'm just saying that that's kind of what we're up when that's what the Marvel and superhero movies do is set up this like truly unmatchable amount of money. Yeah.
Speaker 2
That everybody has to make. Yeah.
And it has to be palatable to any person with half an eyeball that can arrive to see it.
Speaker 2 And they're shitting on him like he didn't make two of the biggest movies ever made. He's just, he just made,
Speaker 2
he made what superhero dude. He did one for you guys.
Yeah. He made Black Panther guys.
Speaker 2
And everyone's trashing the fact that he got this deal where he owns it after 25 years. You guarantino got the deal.
Everybody, it is nothing uncommon. Everybody's just
Speaker 2
trying to hurt this man. Yes.
They're trying to hurt the man and trying to hurt the work. And there's no fucking reason for it.
All right.
Speaker 5 Well, I like the movie The Faculty.
Speaker 2 Oh.
Speaker 2 You know what? I thought they gave it a good soundtrack.
Speaker 5
Yes. It's got a great soundtrack.
It is. But in talking about alien movies that are not very good, that is definitely one of them.
But man, I will say, if it is on, I'll watch it.
Speaker 2 Do you remember they had to push it because it was all about killing the teachers? Oh,
Speaker 2 right after I call them.
Speaker 5
Yes. Or are you thinking about teaching Mrs.
Tingle?
Speaker 2 That I am because it was supposed to be killing Mrs. Tingle.
Speaker 5
And then they changed it. Teaching Mrs.
Tingle was the one where they killed the. Because this is, I mean, they're aliens, so you got to kill these.
Speaker 2
You know what? One I had to get over my penis to enjoy. What? Under the skin.
I never saw it.
Speaker 2 Under the skin, when I first saw it, I was just like, it's good, Scarlett Doctor Minc's boobies in it.
Speaker 2
And then now as an adult, I watch it and I realize it's actually quite good. It's quite haunting.
Yes. It's actually very, very, very good.
Speaker 2
It's like, and I want to say it's probably Scarjoe's best movie. I didn't even know it was an alien film.
Yes. An alien.
I started like researching this episode.
Speaker 2 It's Scarjoe's best movie outside of her where she's not in it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 You know, it's a good future space movie, but not an alien movie that kind of I've always put in the same genre as as this, and I'm probably incorrect. It's melancholia, you know.
Speaker 2
Melancholia is a cool movie. That's a very interesting movie.
It's got deer hunter vibes to it, you know.
Speaker 2
It's sad, it's very sad, yeah, it's very sad. But I like that movie, and it's got you know, Kate Winston's boobies.
Well, no, not Katie Winston, the other one.
Speaker 2
Oh, uh, Kirsten Dunsted, Kirsten Dunst, but they're sad boobies, but they're sad boobies, yeah. That's the thing.
It's like I always kind of felt like that was Under the Skin sad boobies, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 You know what's also funny, too, is that as a kid, too, like I remember doing that. You ever just like, okay,
Speaker 2 Jackie, you're not here.
Speaker 2 You ever do the thing where
Speaker 2 I need everyone to know I am still here, where you have to thumb through an extremely sad movie just to see tits as a little boy? Oh, I mean, yes, that was a big part of it.
Speaker 2 My childhood, I was flipping through the page.
Speaker 2 You don't want me to see her.
Speaker 5 You don't want me to be hearing this, but I need you to know I need to bring up Astronaut's Wife because that is definitely a movie that I would go right.
Speaker 5 I knew exactly how to get to the one sex scene in Astronaut's Wife, which was a great fun alien movie.
Speaker 2
Now we're just looking at Holly Hunter nude for the piano. Sad and nude in the piano.
I never saw the piano. I didn't know Holly Hunter got nude.
Yeah, but at the rest of the day. Sad nude.
Speaker 2
She's so boring. Oh, man.
She's so beautiful. Yeah, she is.
She's really just a classic, beautiful woman. She just cry, cry, cries.
I watched The Firm the other day. Guess what, man?
Speaker 2
No fucking piano in it either. I'm expecting.
There's no piano in that movie. Here's my thing.
You call that movie the piano.
Speaker 2 Are you really going to fucking tell me there isn't one piano in the piano? Listen to me, Eddie. Not one Jerry Lee Lewis song.
Speaker 2
Oh my god. Yeah, man.
That's fucked up. And you know what else?
Speaker 2
That's how that movie should open. There's no game in the crying game.
There's no game. It's just crying.
Yeah.
Speaker 2
Man, that would be so cool. The piano.
Or the piano too. Or at time.
Speaker 2 I think she's a deaf woman.
Speaker 5 It says there is a piano in the piano.
Speaker 2
Yeah, there's like a piano in it. Yeah, she's mute.
She's mute. Oh, she talks through a piano? Well, she does the thing where she's like, she tries to marry the piano.
I don't know.
Speaker 5 Yeah, she becomes the piano, but she can't.
Speaker 2 Oh, you ever played the piano game with a girl where you press on her clit until she starts doing the chopsticks?
Speaker 2 But you do it with your feet, like Tom Hanks. Yeah, my heels.
Speaker 2 Don't forget, in Big, that woman fucks a child.
Speaker 2
Don't forget. But we are talking about alien movies.
Hey, Dengue. There's a whole genre of child trapped inside adult's body having sex with adults.
Different episodes. There's many of those films.
Speaker 2
Sleeper movies about aliens, ones that you think maybe have flown on the radar, people haven't seen that much. I'll go first, as always.
Slyther. Love Slither.
Speaker 2
So Slytherin. Slither.
Slither. Fucking
Speaker 2 cool, man.
Speaker 2 It's gross.
Speaker 2
It's fucking. Michael Rooker is incredible in that movie.
Great. I really love Slyther.
You know what's one that I forgot about that I was reminded by? I mean, and it's a major one.
Speaker 2
It's just one of those that doesn't come about because it's the type of movie you don't see as much anymore. The Blob.
Ooh, the 80s Blob. Yes.
Speaker 2
Kevin Dillon. I love that movie.
And the idea of there used to be a lot more movies about just a big thing.
Speaker 2
You know, like, you know, there was like ants. Remember them? You ever seen them? Yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
With the ants. It's like very interesting.
Speaker 2
It's actually kind of an interesting movie. There was also the other movies.
Wasn't there one about Killer B ones? Yes, and there's one about caterpillars, I think.
Speaker 2
Caterpillars. I don't know.
Not ants. Not ants the film.
Speaker 5 Yeah, ants the film.
Speaker 2 Ants the film, which I think is technically the last Sylvester Stallone Woody Allen movie.
Speaker 2
The last Sylvester Stallone Woody Allen film that we'll ever get. Yes, that's the last one we'll ever get.
I don't think there'll be more. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 There are two.
Speaker 2 There's an Ants 2. No, two Sylvester Stallone Woody Allen movies because he's in Annie Hall.
Speaker 2 He's one of the guys that robs him on the train. That's so.
Speaker 5 Whoa, the Italian stallion.
Speaker 2 Wow.
Speaker 5 Robbing him on a train.
Speaker 2
Or no, it's Ors at Bananas. It's one of the other ones.
He's on, he's in. Stallone is in.
Speaker 2
Those are the ones of his I've seen the least. Yeah.
But regardless, we're not doing that. No, no, we're not doing Ali.
Yeah, we're not directors. Yeah, we're not doing it.
aliens. We're doing aliens.
Speaker 2
We're going to do another one where we do canceled directors. Okay, good.
I can't wait for that.
Speaker 2
Oh, that'd be good. I'll get into that.
I'll talk in the middle. That's movie.
I just saw Chinatown.
Speaker 2
Great movie, man. That's Chinatown.
Great movie, man. Guess who did like it? My wife.
She was extremely upset by that film. I don't know.
Speaker 2 It was like, because in the end, at the very end of the movie, she was just like,
Speaker 2 that's it?
Speaker 2
It's Chinatown. Chinatown.
Yeah, baby. It's Chinatown.
Speaker 2 She did not enjoy the. Yeah, she was not into it.
Speaker 5 I really liked Attack the Block. Yes, that's the first one that is like a
Speaker 5 one that people don't want to do.
Speaker 2 John Boyga.
Speaker 2 Star Wars. Does he do anything else?
Speaker 5 I think, doesn't he do Star Wars?
Speaker 2 He did Star Wars, but that's all done now. He then got upset about the, then he got mad about his treatment during Star Wars.
Speaker 2
The Pacific Rim. He was in Pacific Rim.
Oh, they're fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're okay, those people. Man, that second Pacific Rim was so bad.
You know, I find them entertaining.
Speaker 2
I like the first one we saw together. It was a lot of fun.
Truly, anything that's not some form of IP, sign me up. I just, I'm looking, I'm desperate for new IP.
Yeah. Like, give me another time.
Speaker 2 I don't care. Bring Triple X back.
Speaker 2
I know no one likes Triple X. Oh, no.
But
Speaker 2
I'll see more Triple X movies. I watched five Final Destination movies in a row at home because I was sick.
I watched all the movies in a row. That's great.
Speaker 5 Did you love them even more as they went on?
Speaker 2
They're terrible. Yeah.
But what's nice about them is that they're, it's not,
Speaker 2 I'm not being spoon-fed things that I need to purchase.
Speaker 5 Honestly, you know what you need to do next? Watch all of the Fast and Furious movies back to the business.
Speaker 2
They are good. They are good.
That's too long. No, there's a bunch of really, really bad ones.
There's Tokyo Trips.
Speaker 5 There's a couple ones you can cut out in the middle, but man, it just really, when they talk about are they aliens, when they come,
Speaker 5 when they ride in the car from space down back to Earth and still jump out of the car.
Speaker 2
They're anything but aliens. They're family.
They're family.
Speaker 5 Their family. One that came up that I forget.
Speaker 2 Color out of space. I brought this up.
Speaker 5 I said it under my breath earlier.
Speaker 2 I view Color Out of Space as an Eldritch horror film.
Speaker 5 Now, what, now, a question though, what would be the difference? And because then it's not coming from space, because it's coming then essentially like from the Earth?
Speaker 2
I don't know. I don't know anything about this movie.
Oh,
Speaker 5 I think that you would really enjoy Color Out of Space.
Speaker 2 It's a slow burn. It is
Speaker 2 Nick Cage.
Speaker 5 Oh.
Speaker 2 Yeah.
Speaker 5 It's cool. It's just a fun, psychedelic Nick Cage sci-fi movie.
Speaker 2
Yes, it's by Richard Stanley, the guy that did Island of Dr. Moreau.
Okay.
Speaker 2
That was the failed, was considered to be the failed island of Dr. Moreau.
I still enjoy it. I love that movie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2
Also, an undiscovered classic of his in the sci-fi genre, Hardware, which is actually quite good. And the Dust Devil is, I've seen all of his films for some of the things.
Really? Yeah. And
Speaker 2 Dust Devil's really strange. It's like an erotic horror thriller that he kind of, after the success of hardware, he was kind of allowed.
Speaker 2 Again, this is one of those things that you still give great deals to filmmakers all the time. He just got this kind of like, all right, now you make, you have dreams, desire.
Speaker 2
And then he made this kind of weird wizard desert sex movie. And everyone's like, oh, this is bad.
But it's quite. I liked it.
Now, how about this?
Speaker 2
I know this is one that y'all love and we haven't brought it up yet. Maybe, I don't know if it's a sleeper or not, but bad taste.
Oh.
Speaker 2
Bad taste is a part of the Peter Jackson. Oh, yeah.
You know, Peter Jackson, those early movies, they mean a lot to me. They're not good.
They're not meat, but they're important to watch. Yes.
Speaker 2
They're not his best work, but they are like. Dead Alive is.
I love Dead Alive. Dead Alive holds up, and like I, the X-rated version of Dead Alive is required watching.
Speaker 5 I think Meet the Feebles holds up, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 I haven't seen it in a minute. When's the last time you saw it?
Speaker 5 It's been a minute.
Speaker 2 It's pretty bad. It does not quite hold up.
Speaker 5 But here's the thing, though. Bad Taste and Meet the Feebles, for me, are important movies because I remember seeing them at a time that I didn't know
Speaker 5 you could make movies like that.
Speaker 2 And we were like, we laughed on that. In America, you couldn't, probably.
Speaker 5
Laughed and just like loved it so much. And it so affected me that while, yeah, they're not good movies, they were huge to like opening up my brain into like what you could make.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 Cause to me, that's the big deal is that like,
Speaker 2 what does it mean to you? What do the movies mean to you?
Speaker 2 I think that that's like what we sort of miss sometimes in the age of like I think that's also part of why I have to examine my anger and when i get angry and you got like you heard me earlier i got angry and then a lot of times what my therapist tells me to do is to stop and think about like where is it coming from and the anger a lot of times for me it comes from a deep sadness and i think part of where the sadness comes from sometimes is that when you are making work on such a level where you're putting out 10 episodes of a series at once and the idea of binge viewing and binge content making and binge like all of this concept you begin to lose like i guess that's one of my main issues is that with the the new influx of all the content is that they all blend together and then part of me then thinks like these are people each one of these television shows is a year out of those people's lives that you consume in six hours and then you're like next and then I feel like it does get to a point where you're like the movies used to for me these movies meant something like even the bad ones meant something a lot of time the great actors say they prefer television because they really get a hold of the character.
Speaker 2
I understand. They get to really be a part of the character for a very long time.
But that's if the writing is good. Yes.
Speaker 2
And Killer Clowns from Outer Space is how we're ending this whole fucking game because it's the best one of all. Yeah, it is a great movie.
I really like it. But no.
Speaker 2 I mean, I totally understand digging into it as an actor, but again, I'm the audience member. I'm not the actor.
Speaker 2
Yeah, for sure. I'm trying to watch it.
And I get sad because I feel like a lot of people's work gets overlooked.
Speaker 2 And I think that people spend a lot of time and then their work is harshly judged and quickly judged and it's flushed on the toilet yeah no and it makes me angry because i feel like more people should understand what goes into the stuff that they watch wow yeah and i you know and i have a similar feeling i feel like horror movies and like and sci-fi alien movies and all that stuff was really big for me because it like i don't know it kind of like i was an only child who like i was like i lived in boca raton but my family was like the family that went poor trying to live in boca raton yeah and so like i wasn't like in with all the rich kids and i was like super fat.
Speaker 2
And so like I went to Catholic school. So I was a nerd.
I didn't have any friends. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 You know, and so I had like two friends and we watched horror movies and we fucking and that's how like I related to society from like exactly from like eight to like 14, you know, until I got to high school and my fucking came out of my shell.
Speaker 2
They're very important. They really help people more than people think.
Oh, yes.
Speaker 2 You know, it's a lot of people look at it as trash and all that stuff, but it's actually like they teach you about society.
Speaker 2 They like, they're the first movies where feet for women and people of color are the leads. No, sci-fi was a, sci-fi means the world to me because of that.
Speaker 2
Because I'll always remember when I first got into reading sci-fi and watching these movies was when we moved really from New York to Florida. Same thing.
So it was an escape. I was alone.
Speaker 2 And there was something about connecting to something else that felt.
Speaker 2 alien. Yeah.
Speaker 5 Right.
Speaker 5 And specifically with aliens, I think that opening up, especially from from a kid's perspective, of opening up what could be and showing you, even in like the zany alien comedies that a lot of us grew up on, I feel like it showed us that.
Speaker 5 Your current reality isn't the only thing that can exist.
Speaker 5
And that's a good thing. Like I watched alien movies from being a kid and thought, oh, that's freedom.
That's a freedom that
Speaker 5 we can have. That who knows what could happen.
Speaker 2 Think about how free the flying purple people eater monster was.
Speaker 5 So free.
Speaker 2 The last about a freedom that anyone's ever had.
Speaker 5 Didn't have to wear any clothes. You know, unicorn horns.
Speaker 2
Totally free. Stitch was free.
Yes.
Speaker 2 But Stitch, not a...
Speaker 5 He's an alien. Alien.
Speaker 2
Oh, yeah. Stitch is an alien.
It came from out of space. It's the first scene of the movie.
I'm going to admit, never seen it.
Speaker 5 I also haven't seen it. Really? But they're coming out with the, because a lot of people in our chat on our Friday show were very excited because they're doing a live-action Lilo and Stitch.
Speaker 5 And I'd never see, I've never seen it.
Speaker 2 That makes me want to die.
Speaker 2 I'll check it out. It looks cute.
Speaker 5 Just the idea of the live-action Lilo and Stitch.
Speaker 2 We already have a Lilo and Stitch. They can just watch the old one.
Speaker 2
But you didn't. No, it's not for me.
You know what I mean? I'm saying the kids can watch the old one. You know, kids can watch the old one.
They already fucking made. They already made it.
Speaker 2
And it wasn't even that fucking long ago. It was 20-something years ago.
Whoa, is it? Yeah.
Speaker 5 No, I guess Monsters Under the Bed and Demons are very different than aliens because I just saw little monsters and I got excited about the monsters.
Speaker 2 But that's Monsters Monsters. That's another episode that we will do.
Speaker 5 That is, yes, yes.
Speaker 2
Monsters. Well, this has been wonderful.
This really has been. Can we write down all the potential episodes that we're going to do?
Speaker 2
Somebody will do it on Reddit. We'll definitely do the Be Quiet films.
Yeah, I like those. Canceled Directors films.
Speaker 2
I think Canceled Directors' films is going to be important for us. Oh, absolutely.
People really want us to do that. Oh, yeah.
They really want us to examine
Speaker 2 and really give us
Speaker 2 a rental. I think that's a good
Speaker 2 Woody Allen watch list. Yay.
Speaker 2 I'll tell you what to watch. His front door.
Speaker 2 Make sure he's here. Make sure he don't leave.
Speaker 2 Make sure he don't come after you now.
Speaker 2
Oh, Woody Allen. You know, he's done.
He'll be dead soon. This is great.
Make sure you watch and listen to Good Pud. Please.
It's the funniest show on the network by far.
Speaker 2 We are going to be doing, you'll see a revamp of Good Pud. We have a bit of a special coming up for you very, very soon.
Speaker 2
We certainly are going to, I hope you enjoy because we definitely enjoyed making it. And we are going to, that's going to, and then Hoopagoo is going to be coming in.
We're doing hoop soon.
Speaker 2 Yes, absolutely. We're going to be pausing live streams, but then we're going to come back out with a whole season of hoopagoo goo.
Speaker 2
It's going to be very well made and produced. Not that it wasn't before, but it's going to be organized.
We're doing that. Very excited.
And then, of course, this comes out on Wednesday, May 7th.
Speaker 2 If you happen to be in Fort Lauderdale, the three of us are performing tonight
Speaker 2 at the Fort Lauderdale improv. So we
Speaker 2
are prepared. We have our material.
Jackie's doing 25 minutes. Yeah, I've got it all said.
And she's doing, she's got a whole thing, and it's all about abortion. Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2 It's going to be a lot of fun. I'm about to talk about abortion.
Speaker 2 Make her cry. I'm talking about abortion.
Speaker 5 But, of course, you know, if you've got abortion problems or if you have any other kind of problems, I've got 99 problems, but abortion ain't one. But a bitch might be a problem.
Speaker 2 If you've got abortion problems, I feel bad for you, son.
Speaker 5
And you should take those problems to who's thebitch.com. Let us know what those problems are.
Who's thebitch.com?
Speaker 2 Don't up a phone number.
Speaker 5 We do have a phone number, but all the information is on whosthebitch.com. Good work.
Speaker 2
Yeah, go do that. And then also, tomorrow night, we're going to be in Orlando, the three of us, at the Orlando Funny Bum.
The early show is sold out.
Speaker 2 There are still some tickets available for the late show. And that's where Jackie will be doing.
Speaker 2 She'll be doing her full hour on her portion.
Speaker 2
And that's when she's going to come up, mostly be talking. We're not going to be talking.
Jackie's going to be up there. Eggs.
Eggs. Yeah.
Eggs. Eggs.
You use
Speaker 2
it. I'm going top of my legs.
Yeah, I'm doing a lot of
Speaker 2 poetry. Eggs are going out out here.
Speaker 5 And by beat, poetry means I'm going to do poetry and y'all going to beat the shit out of me. Okay.
Speaker 2 Okay,
Speaker 2
Marino Brokovich. Hitting that woman.
Uh-oh. Always funny.
Speaker 2 Also, if you happen to be in Key West this weekend, come and see me in Key West at the
Speaker 2
Comedy Key West. I'm going to be there from May 9th to 11th.
But he may not be doing comedy, but he is going to be drinking hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you just be right there with him.
Speaker 2 Yeah, absolutely. Especially on Mother's Day.
Speaker 2 Please go see his show on Mother's Day.
Speaker 2
Please just go see any show on Mother's Day. What else are you doing at Key West on Mother's Day? That's all he's asking for.
Bring your mother to his show on Mother's Day. Aunt Key West.
Speaker 2
They like me. Come on.
Moms love me. They do.
Come on. He's a lot of eat pussy on the island.
Speaker 2
All right, y'all. This has been Side Stories Satan.
Goodbye, everyone. Bye.
Hail Peter Jackson. Yes.
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