Matt & Brady Tkachuk on 4 Nations Face-Off, Partying with The Cup & Art of Hockey Fights | Ep 126

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Speaker 2 I'm going to take this question off because Brady would kick my ass.

Speaker 1 He's He's got a little reach advantage. I feel the same way about Trav.
He's a little slit wiry motherfucker. Hey I ain't getting in a fucking cage with you.

Speaker 1 I told Jason I was like we ever played the Eagles. I was fucking coming off there and I was gonna drop that drop the gloves with him.
That would have been electric.

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Speaker 1 And Jason, Tilda, 92%ers, what we got coming up. We're back.
That's right. After one week off, we are back to you every Wednesday.
Short hiatus. Rejuvenated, baby.
Rejuvenated. That's right.

Speaker 1 We're going to get you guys caught up on everything we did last week, which wasn't that much. But either way, we're going to get you caught up.

Speaker 1 We also got some no-dumb questions, and we got a great conversation coming up with the brothers of Team USA Hockey

Speaker 1 and the NHL. The Tachuck brothers are with us today.

Speaker 1 So can't wait to dive into that. But first, as always.
As always. Let's start with a little bit of that new news.

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Yeah, what do we got going on here, Travis?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 I helped support this film from a distance. It's about the military.

Speaker 1 It's about veterans coming back from war, specifically Afghanistan, and having to deal with the problems of losing somebody in war that they went to combat with. Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 It's a beautiful story. I think

Speaker 1 it's something that a lot of veterans deal with when they come back home.

Speaker 1 And I thought uh it was obviously a star-studded with people like morgan freeman ed harris uh sinequa martin green and natalie morales i think it was just it was it made sense uh to to help support this film and um it is getting absolutely great reviews and um it is out this friday well i can't wait to go watch this thing this sounds awesome jason you ended up uh getting into a little fun with uh our guys fits and wit Fitz and Witt.

Speaker 1 Yeah, jumped on the couch with the boys. I did.
That was actually, we jumped on that before the Super Bowl Bowl

Speaker 1 down there in New Orleans. New Orleans.
But yeah, those guys are awesome. You know, we love both of them.

Speaker 1 We were out there in Tahoe last year with them, and it feels like we've just hung out even more since then. So always good to chop it up with both those guys.
They're great personalities.

Speaker 1 They're funny. They're engaging.
Was happy to hop on the show with them. Dude, one of my favorite stories.

Speaker 1 Fitz is over there talking about the night that the whole gang came over to my house in KC like three years ago. After the Thursday night game.
It was so unexpected. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So unexpected for them to actually show up. I was like, dude, there's no way they're actually going to show up.
I send them the address and they all pull up.

Speaker 1 And I'm just over here just like having the best time with them. And I was like a little kid in a candy store.
I'm pretty sure we won the game.

Speaker 1 And I was on, you know, had the whole crew over the house, including everybody that was in the suite. That's awesome.
I just remember

Speaker 1 going up into the attic and just grabbing the most like, like all the shit I'm trying to hide from everybody, like random like port like like artwork and like portraits and like t-shirts and shit and it was just so funny he's just walking around the place like he owned it and every time he came down the steps it was with something even more embarrassing than the last

Speaker 1 good man the guy's the absolute best and uh if you haven't watched are you smarter than a celebrity Fitzpatrick is the fucking man. Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 Fitzmagic is, he's a Harvard grad, so he's absolutely brilliant. He's witty.
And

Speaker 1 he made it so much fun to be a part of that show with him. So, um, make sure you guys check out Are You Smarter Than Celebrity with me and him and on

Speaker 1 good old prime video, baby? Oh, yeah, baby. Love that.
Love that. Jason, you want to talk about that? Uh, the parade you were at, dude.
You went to a parade out there in Philly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was at a parade. Oh, yeah.
Um,

Speaker 1 listen, Philadelphia knows how to do parades.

Speaker 1 There's a few things they know how to do

Speaker 1 extremely well. Parades is one of them, whether it's a members' parade or a parade after an Eagles Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Uh, it was was absolutely electric there's something really like and you know this from the parades that you've had in kc but there's something so just incredible about sharing in a moment with that many people yeah right like millions of people are lining one street in philadelphia and down at the art museum steps and it's so apparent how much joy and pleasure you as a football player or you did as a football player and now this team who just won it this year was able to able to provide for an entire city and i just think it's one of the things that is just like beyond awesome to be at.

Speaker 1 And for me, like, I don't know, it was, I got to see the guys before they went out on the parade. I went down to the stadium, got to hang out with them.
It was chopping it up with

Speaker 1 a lot of the offensive linemen, especially Stout and people that I had spent a lot of time with in Philadelphia. Got to congratulate a lot of former players, Jalen Hurts, Nick Siriani.

Speaker 1 So it was, it was an awesome day for me to just like kind of appreciate as well as the fan base. Then Selik and I, we went on a different route.

Speaker 1 We were like, all right, we're not going to go on the buses. We're just going to kind of meet those guys down there.
We went to the oldest bar in Philadelphia, McGillan's, and

Speaker 1 proceeded to then try and just walk to the art museum steps. Big mistake, nearly impossible.
We had to like, we got chauffeured there by some cops and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 Found our way there and we're able to, I don't know, it was just, it was just a lot of fun. We're running throughout the crowd.
People are going crazy.

Speaker 1 We're seeing the buses and all the guys. And Nolan Smith is having himself one hell of a day.
And it was just, it was really fun to be a part of it and see those guys be able to

Speaker 1 experience it for their first time, especially the guys that weren't there last time. We won it.
To see the city that galvanized around the team was incredible to see as well.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's always beautiful, man. But

Speaker 1 I'll tell you what, I saw Selly before the

Speaker 1 game. Yes.

Speaker 1 I don't know how long it's been since I saw him, man, but just to see him on the sideline and to give a big old hug, man, I miss that fucking big bear, dude.

Speaker 1 He's such a good dude. He is.
And it was awesome seeing him and seeing Connor on the sideline. There's so many people in that fucking organization that I absolutely love.
CB.

Speaker 1 CB finally got a Super Bowl. How about that, man? Happy as hell for him, man.
Yeah, man. He'd been hunting for that for a long time.

Speaker 1 It was really great for a lot of the people in the organization or for everybody, but like, especially people that, you know, you're there for a long time with, or you're there who haven't had one yet.

Speaker 1 And then all of a sudden they get that. And the celebration going down Broad Street, man, there ain't nothing better than it.

Speaker 1 I mean, people are going crazy.

Speaker 1 Tried to, at one point, tried to walk through Love Park. And it's, I mean, I don't know.
It was just, it was, it was absolute mayhem. Absolute mayhem.
So, yeah, Philadelphia's got parades figured out.

Speaker 1 That's for damn sure. I love it.
Well, there's another celebration, and it's today. Bennett turns two today.
That's right. You guys are getting ready to bring in another baby.
Little Benny.

Speaker 1 Lil Benny turns two today. And what do you guys got planned for her? So she's actually, unfortunately, we're doing the podcast.
So

Speaker 1 she's at the alpaca right now without me. We've kind of been celebrating it last night and today.

Speaker 1 But yeah, Benny's,

Speaker 1 she is so funny right now. And she's at that age where she responds and can talk, but she doesn't always know what she's saying.
And it's just adorable. And like,

Speaker 1 I don't know, it's hard to explain, but it's fantastic to interact with her on a daily basis and that's cool seeing the the learning process and like the curiosity of a child all manifesting uh is just that's probably my favorite part about being a parent is just watching a child figure things out and being there with them while they're doing that and like how amazing something as simple as like figuring out how to open up the fridge or you know whatever it is every day there's gonna be something that just blows her mind that you take advantage of every single day as a grown-up and you're like oh my god this just made this little kid's entire day was figuring out how to screw unscrew a water bottle right now that's all she's doing the rest of the day and it's like the best thing ever so anyways benny's doing great happy birthday to benny happy b-day by the time the next kid is here we'll have a five-year-old a four-year-old a two-year-old and a newborn so we're in the thick of it We're in the thick of it big time.

Speaker 1 It's going to be crazy. I still don't know how we're going to handle four, but it's going to be intense.
Hell yeah. You guys would be great.

Speaker 1 I can't wait to fucking get up in there and have some fun with those girls and hand them right back to you. All right.

Speaker 1 That's the benefit of the uncle. Uncle Travi.
Well,

Speaker 1 we got some updates for the Heights Hotline. Yeah, we do.
We love all our voicemails that we get from you guys on a specific topic,

Speaker 1 but we got a new one for you. This time, the topic is going to be parenting advice.

Speaker 1 That's right. From a soon-to-be father of four and a father of zero.

Speaker 1 I can give you some advice, though, for sure. No, Travis's great advice.
He's a great uncle. Outstanding uncle, which uncle, you know, kind of like a

Speaker 1 father, a step-by-night belief father. Like, you're a little bit up there.

Speaker 1 We have the best uncle in the world, man. We've still got the best uncle in the world.
Uncle Don? Oh, big Don. Big Don.
Uncle Don. Solid uncle.
Dude,

Speaker 1 one of my favorite people in the entire world, man. He would wheel us around.
He would get us.

Speaker 1 He would just like spin us around like we were in a circus.

Speaker 1 We thought it was the best thing in the world. He'd throw us up in the air.
Yeah. No, Uncle Don's the best.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I already know.

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Speaker 1 Our guests today from St. Louis, Missouri, with a combined 16 seasons in the NHL, six all-star appearances, one All-Star Game MVP, a Stanley Cup championship.

Speaker 1 We have the brothers of the NHL, Matthew and Brady Kajuk. Welcome to the show, baby.
Fucking good. I love the energy.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 2 I'm up now, boys.

Speaker 1 Guys, thanks so much for joining us. First of all, how are we doing? What an electric freaking tournament.
How are you guys feeling?

Speaker 2 It's kind of set in finally. We've had a few days to really reflect on it.

Speaker 2 The bodies are...

Speaker 2 you know, took a little bit of a toll.

Speaker 2 You know, so much for people thinking it was going to be an all-star game.

Speaker 1 That was a ton of possible.

Speaker 2 I mean, I played in the Stanley Cup Finals last year, and it was the exact same. So

Speaker 2 it was very fun.

Speaker 2 Highlight for me was getting a chance to play with Brady, though.

Speaker 2 It was such an incredible time and something that we're going to look back on forever.

Speaker 1 Was this your guys' first time playing together, Brady? I don't know. Did you guys grow up playing together or was it too far apart?

Speaker 3 Yeah, we were too far apart.

Speaker 3 We played in Florida, the all-star game, but that was just all fun and and uh enjoying it but this was you got the gear up yeah throwing right into the fire and and honestly it was the best hockey experience i've i've ever had it it was so cool unreal so so i'm not sure when exactly did they start doing the four nations tournament for uh for all the football like listeners that we got on here instead of the all-star game they went with the four nations tournament right yeah this this this is the first year this was the first year i was about to say i don't remember this happening ever before but yeah it's because it's for some reason it's you know nine years since there was a best on best tournament and i think we wanted to to kind of bring a little energy for the olympics next year since you know the nhl guys are back going to the olympics and uh yeah

Speaker 3 i think the nhl nhlpa did an unbelievable job and and i know it blew like we were talking about it blew the expectations right out of the water it was

Speaker 1 so so awesome yeah i mean trib was talking about it i don't i haven't seen the general country as excited for hockey as much as it was for this last year.

Speaker 1 And there's a lot of politics at play and other things that made it even more intense on the ice for you guys. But I love when hockey is that relevant.
It's exciting. It's freaking aggressive.

Speaker 1 There is passion out there. Everybody loved what you guys are putting out there for Team USA.
And the product. The product.

Speaker 1 The games were fucking fun as fuck to watch outside of, you know what I mean? The two brawls or the three brawls within the first like minute of the game. Dude, it was electric the entire tournament.

Speaker 1 And I think that, you know, me and Jason grew up playing hockey. I don't know if you guys knew this, but Jason played through high school.
I only played up to eighth grade.

Speaker 1 Don't get me wrong, it was just like double A hockey. It wasn't anything too crazy, but it was it was one of the most fun sports that I played growing up.

Speaker 1 And I wish I would have fucking stayed on the ice just because of how much fun you have when you get out there. Did you guys like grow up playing other sports or was it just hockey?

Speaker 1 Because I know the road to the NHL isn't your traditional road where typically guys go through like the high school ranks and everything like that. Like they go through juniors up in Canada.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of different like avenues you can go. Yeah.
What was it? What was it like growing up playing hockey?

Speaker 2 Yeah. So my parents never let us play one sport year-round or like just one sport in general.
Like they're

Speaker 2 my dad obviously played 19 years in the NHL and

Speaker 2 he just

Speaker 2 he just I remember him telling us at such a young age, you have to be well-rounded.

Speaker 2 Like you have to enjoy going from one group of friends to your other group of friends, you know, in the baseball season, the summer, you know, your school soccer team.

Speaker 2 What else? We played basketball, soccer,

Speaker 1 we played every single thing

Speaker 1 that you could sound like our childhood right there that you could

Speaker 2 get your hands on. I mean, we'd swing the sticks and play some golf in the summer.

Speaker 2 But I remember like after hockey season, we might have played a few spring tournaments, maybe one summer tournament, just to like, I don't know, hang out with some friends.

Speaker 2 And other than that, the hockey bag was throw it in the garage. And, you know, we'll see it again in September, October.

Speaker 2 So I think, like, I got to give our parents a ton of credit for that because, one, all these kids nowadays are getting burnt out early, and they're almost getting forced to play it.

Speaker 2 And I don't even know if they love it.

Speaker 2 And I think that it just helped grow our love for hockey more because, you know, when you're playing other sports and we're having so much fun, like, you're almost excited again for hockey season.

Speaker 2 So I give them a lot of credit for that. And I don't think we played just hockey until, I don't know, Brady, when we went to the U.S.
team at 15. Like, like that might have been that might have been

Speaker 2 yeah like we we both played we had similar paths so we both went to the u.s team for our

Speaker 1 sophomores

Speaker 2 yeah so it's it's u.s juniors it's the u17 and u18 national team in ann arbor which was huge for us like and all the best players in the country are coming together um competing practicing together just i don't know making everybody better and then i went and played junior in canada for my draft year and then two years later later brady went to be you for his uh his draft draft year.

Speaker 2 So that was the only difference that we had in our hockey paths.

Speaker 1 Nice. That's unique too, because it feels like hockey is a sport where, at least for us, most of the best players I knew in hockey, they played hockey constantly.
All year round.

Speaker 1 All year round. They played summer leagues.
They played juniors. They were doing it non-stop.
But I love hearing. I think multi-sports makes you so much better as an overall athlete.

Speaker 1 So I love hearing that. That's great to hear.
Let's get back a little bit to the four seasons or the

Speaker 1 four nations tournament.

Speaker 1 Do you think that they're going to continue to do this it was so massively successful matthew you got an injury you talked you guys just talked about the intensity of it do you think that this is going to be something that the nhl is going to lean into in future seasons yeah i mean i i think they've come up with a plan of

Speaker 3 like obviously this was i think more successful than they could could have pictured and then next year we got the olympics and then i think they're doing a a world cup where they've been talking about getting more countries involved that uh instead of the four nations get more like the i think they're looking for like eight countries so just to see more talent uh being showcased and i think they're talking about having even some games in europe which i think would be a really cool experience and and tie that into the 2030 olympics and so i think they're coming up with a every two years of of an event like this to to kind of do it i just think everybody missed it everybody missed it up man the best of the best uh but it's gonna be a little bit different with the you know olympic rules.

Speaker 3 There's not going to be, they're not allowed to fight in and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 So the fans, listen, man. But you're not going to allow it, baby.
You got to go to the bottom. I know.

Speaker 3 It was great. But

Speaker 1 I've been arguing to get that rule set in the NFL for years.

Speaker 1 I mean, could you imagine just once every game, you just get a fucking...

Speaker 1 You're allowed once

Speaker 3 to take the helmet off and just say it's throwing.

Speaker 1 Oh, bad. I told Jason, I was like, we ever played the Eagles.
I was fucking coming out there and I was going to drop that.

Speaker 1 That would have been electric. I do want to talk about the fight because both of you guys, obviously, Matthew, you got in the first fight of the first game with Canada.
Brady, you're the next.

Speaker 1 And then Miller got in the third fight, right?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Did you guys know right from the moment of the anthem that that was going to happen? Like, what led up to that right off the first face-off fight happening, Matthew?

Speaker 2 I think that

Speaker 2 USA,

Speaker 2 that team is such a proud group of Americans and wanted to show how united we were and how proud we were to be americans i mean let's face it like you know i i in you know last bunch of years you really haven't seen that from americans in general like to show off how proud they are to be um a part of the united states and and i think that you know you're our team did a great job of of making a big impact on people from the whole tournament, but especially that game against Canada, going into a hostile environment and wanting to

Speaker 2 set the tone in a very tough place to play against a very great team. And so I think that

Speaker 2 we knew it was going to be an intense game. And me, Brady, and Milsy were talking before about it, about potentially, you know, if there were going to be just some scraps doing it right away.
Maybe.

Speaker 1 If the feeling's right, you know.

Speaker 1 If they set the lights that are right, then you'll get the moods right. We'll see what happens.

Speaker 2 But to be honest, we were all joking around until right before we went out for the anthem.

Speaker 2 And then, you know, we send in our, we are the road team, we send in our lineup first, then they send in theirs.

Speaker 2 And, you know, they, I was just like, Brady, I'm going to ask whoever's lined up on their left side to fight at first. And then the guy I asked fought me.

Speaker 2 And then Brady, I guess, went right over to the back.

Speaker 1 Calling for it, mid-fight.

Speaker 1 Yeah, call him for it, mid-fight. And then,

Speaker 2 and then Millsy went right after.

Speaker 2 I just think it was, you know, it made me very proud to be playing for that team during that moment, to see how united we were in a, like I said, a hostile environment.

Speaker 2 At the end of the day, it's, you know, a fight's a fight. You're going there to beat the other guy up.
But I think it was more than that. It was more to show your teammates, you know, we got this.

Speaker 2 You know, we're, we're together in this. We all come from different parts of the country, different backgrounds, different teams.
And, you know, we're in this and we're going to fight together.

Speaker 1 So that's fucking badass.

Speaker 2 That made me really, really proud, to be honest with you.

Speaker 2 And, and, and even people, you know, since the tournament, that's all they're talking about, how proud they were of our team and how united we were and how we were

Speaker 2 an inspiration to them.

Speaker 2 And I think that's come from the whole tournament, but that's what makes me most proud, I think.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 3 I got to say, I was way more nervous for Matthew fighting. When I saw him starting to throw, I was like, oh, here we go.

Speaker 1 Let's go, boys. Let's go, boys.

Speaker 3 I was listening to the crowd too.

Speaker 1 Every time he was throwing, I was like, okay, I don't even know if I can wait till the next whistle.

Speaker 3 I got to grab somebody now. I can't wait.

Speaker 1 I can't wait to hear longer.

Speaker 2 How clean was our dab up too, Bernie?

Speaker 3 I'll remember that forever.

Speaker 1 That was our cleanest dab of all time.

Speaker 3 Just me set it at Jeff every single day.

Speaker 1 Dude, so how the buildup and everything and how it snowballed and all that from the first game is so awesome. But there had to be a little bit of you.

Speaker 1 You said you were joking around where it was like, you knew your dad did something very similar to this in 1996.

Speaker 1 Within like the first 20 seconds of the game, I believe that was the, that's how it, how it went down with him as as well, right? Clone with you.

Speaker 3 They actually were telling the story because the guy who fought Bill Guerin was our general manager for that tournament.

Speaker 3 And they were both laughing about like before, it's like, who's taking the big guy? Like Billy G is like, I got the big guy.

Speaker 3 And then they're Joker.

Speaker 1 I was like, Big Wald, why didn't you grab the big guy?

Speaker 3 Like, you're bigger than me. And like, just to hear that, just to hear about us leading into the tournament, about joking around, like, all right, if, if this is going to happen, who's got who?

Speaker 3 And stuff like that. So it was funny funny how it kind of came out.

Speaker 2 30 years later, it's like the exact same story.

Speaker 2 So boy.

Speaker 1 So boy. I do think fighting is such a big part of hockey's culture, at least in the United States and in the NHL.
And it feels like it's misunderstood a lot of the times.

Speaker 1 I love the way you, Matthew, just described it. Like it's almost about galvanizing everybody and like, hey, we're not going to take shit from anybody.

Speaker 1 We're standing up for ourselves and we're going to battle. And I think that they had the same response on their end.
And that's what made it so electric.

Speaker 1 Like, there was two countries in particular in Canada and the U.S. that were so proudly

Speaker 1 fighting for each other. And it was just awesome to witness.
One of the things that Travis and I never got to do, unfortunately, with football is we never got to represent our country.

Speaker 1 So it's just so awesome to be able to see you guys do that in a way.

Speaker 1 We're living through our NHL versus man.

Speaker 1 I got to go to the Olympics for the first time this year, which was awesome. You get to see a bunch of people compete for the United States there.
But yeah, watching this was incredible.

Speaker 1 I do got to ask you,

Speaker 1 there's an art to hockey fights.

Speaker 1 Travis and I never got skilled enough or advanced enough to learn. Our hockey fights never got out of the locker.

Speaker 1 We were locker boxing in the middle of like hockey tournament or hockey like camps and stuff like that. We got as far as it got.

Speaker 1 We got a very rudimentary upbringing with either locker boxing or our man Steve Bogus, who was both of our coach just Little League. Stevie.
Stevie, rest in peace.

Speaker 1 He is no longer with us, but he said you got to grab the other guy's right hand with this hand.

Speaker 1 You grab his shoulder right there and you kind of steer it and then you're throwing with this one and i don't know is there is there more to it than that or what's the art of the hockey fight are there unwritten rules i'm gonna take this question off because bro you would kick my ass

Speaker 1 it's got a little reach advantage that's i feel the same way about trav little slit wiry motherfucker getting in a fucking cage with you

Speaker 3 everyone's different though like it's it's all kind of like the same concept but like i know matthew and I, like, even like watching like all of our fights and like just like he grabs like the middle of the shoulder pads here, but I, I like to grab like just like around his elbow.

Speaker 1 Oh, interesting. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And like, I kind of grab and twist it.

Speaker 3 And like, as I'm throwing, like, and if I can't reach him, then, like, I know it didn't happen against Canada, but I throw and then like switch hands. to like go but like there you go

Speaker 2 yeah he's got the left and right so he's throwing both hands hands.

Speaker 2 That's too much for me. Yeah,

Speaker 1 you got to have good balance on the ice to be throwing both hands like that.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but when you grab like the elbow, it's like you control everything, right? Like, you can control, like, when he throws over, like you kind of push your hand forward, like above.

Speaker 3 And yeah, and when he tries to throw an uppercut, you can kind of like bring it down a little bit. So, yeah, like you just kind of tuck your elbow and you're not going to get hit.
So,

Speaker 3 yeah. But usually, the mindset is, how can I knock this guy out

Speaker 1 or right or a left? So, I love it. I love it.

Speaker 3 No better feeling.

Speaker 1 If somebody gets like cheeky and like kind of like dodges and like

Speaker 1 moves, is it frowned upon if a guy like kind of like flanks or if he like tries to do that? Are there any rules or any unwritten? Is there any other finesse kind of move that you make that's like

Speaker 3 I've seen, I've seen guys do like the Superman punch and like that's always like in a square up. That's the only thing I'm thinking about.
It's like, I do not want to get Superman punched.

Speaker 3 Guys will kind of like throw head fakes, like get in there.

Speaker 3 and it's like and you don't want to like overextend to go grab him because then he like back up and can throw but um i mean unwritten rules like usually when the guy's down you don't hit him right

Speaker 1 there's no unwritten rules unless you know

Speaker 3 but for us unless you don't like the guy which we usually don't then we're still throwing at the bottom so

Speaker 3 uh but yeah there's it's it's a free-for-all when it comes to us too that doesn't matter until the refs come in it's until we're going to the box we're going to still try to throw yeah i love it man how was like moms and grandmas, how do they feel about you guys throwing the mitt or dropping gloves?

Speaker 3 Well, nobody knew. And honestly, it didn't even cross her mindset.
Like we didn't tell anybody in our family. And then I guess we were just debriefing after the game with the fam.

Speaker 3 And of course, everybody was so excited. But

Speaker 3 I guess my dad saw right off the draw, like Matthew going back with like his one glove off. And he's like, tapped my mom.
He's like, you don't really know what's coming, but it's happened.

Speaker 3 She's like, what are you talking about? Then whistle, and then the gloves came off. And I guess she was just, my mom doesn't really handle it too well.

Speaker 3 I think, I mean, she's accepted, like, that's kind of who we are as players. But I think on that stage, and she

Speaker 3 was pretty nervous. And, and, uh, um, and then the same thing happened the next draw.

Speaker 1 My dad was like, hey, Brady's going, just watching. No way, no way.

Speaker 3 I guess for like 15 minutes, she just like couldn't believe what was going on.

Speaker 3 And our grandmas,

Speaker 3 it's the same thing.

Speaker 3 I think it gets a little nervous, but I think she knows like how we grew up and how we were rough housing each other growing up and how we've kind of built that toughness with the both of us that we can kind of handle our own.

Speaker 3 But it's funny. I know Matthew's fiancé, my wife, I don't think like

Speaker 3 they're not like that. They're like almost, it's like, that's who we are.
So

Speaker 3 it's funny to see the not even surprise and my our sister taryn she loves it yeah

Speaker 3 she was probably giving so many fist pumps and high five at everybody and and uh so it's pretty funny to see that the different people in our life with uh the different reactions that they have for it That shit's awesome, man.

Speaker 1 My favorite reaction was when they cut the Matthew in the penalty box after you started fucking brawling. Dude, you were fucking banging on the glass, dude.

Speaker 1 I can only imagine how that feels to watch your brother just be on his team fighting for your country.

Speaker 1 It's like the one time you get to represent your country, and you guys know you guys did it the most badass way, man. That's just so cool.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Watching Brady was legit, like the most proud I've ever been.

Speaker 2 It was

Speaker 2 just so surreal. It was awesome.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's another thing. You guys shared a penalty box together.
What was that like? Yeah, what did you guys talk about in there?

Speaker 3 It was a highlight.

Speaker 1 It was a highlight. It was weird just talking about the fight, how awesome it was.

Speaker 1 Last five minutes ever spent.

Speaker 3 And then Milsey came in and just the same thing we were just like oh my god like that just happened like this is awesome now let's go win the game like

Speaker 3 let's go make it meaningful and win the game but uh it was unbelievable it was so it was just like those little things that like i know i i was mic'd up for that game and i'm excited to see like the the full clip and dude it was a little clip of our conversation rate we came in and and uh it was pretty funny because i'm excited to see the whole clip of just what we were even talking about it was it's like two kids talking it's like how how was my fight?

Speaker 2 Oh, it was great.

Speaker 2 It's just like, I don't know, you guys know what it's like. We're just

Speaker 2 with each other. It's like we're two little kids again, just having fun.
So that's what it felt like in the box. It was the best.

Speaker 1 Fuck yeah, man. Well, there was a lot of momentum built up.
And now I think the NHL is going to benefit from this. People are all in on hockey right now.

Speaker 1 It's an awesome time to be in the United States as a hockey fan. What do you think the USA can continue to do to build on this momentum and continue to push the sport as a country?

Speaker 2 Well, I think it's exciting because you've got people across the country that might have never heard about hockey before or watched a game that are now fans.

Speaker 2 And that's something that I think Brady and I and the rest of our team should be proud of and that we grew the game in this country. And the game's in a better place now than it was two weeks ago.

Speaker 2 So I think that first and foremost is very exciting.

Speaker 2 I just think we have to keep building momentum with these international events too, because like I said, how much pride our team showed in representing our country.

Speaker 2 And there is nothing like wearing that jersey. It doesn't matter what team you're on.
There is just nothing like it.

Speaker 2 So I just think next year, when it comes to the Olympics, we have to do a job and compete our asses off and ultimately come out with exactly what we want to accomplish.

Speaker 2 So I think that's very important.

Speaker 2 the game's in a better place right now and this tournament was a great idea for whoever came up with it and it was a huge success. So

Speaker 2 just hockey keeps growing in this country. And I think, too, like, you know, our team in Florida, you know, a non-traditional hockey market is seeing so much youth hockey grow.

Speaker 2 Tampa's had a lot of success. So you're seeing it there.
I mean,

Speaker 2 our captain, Austin Matthews, is from Scottsdale. You know, like there's guys from all over the country that...
Maybe, you know, when my dad played, it was Minnesota and Boston and Michigan. So

Speaker 2 it's growing a lot right now. We just got to keep it going and keep putting together good performances.

Speaker 1 Yep. Fuck yeah, man.
Well, growing up in a hockey house, man, your dad played 19 seasons in the NHL, which is, God damn, that's impressive, man. So you guys grew up in St.
Louis?

Speaker 1 Were you guys big blues fans or who are you guys cheering on in terms of like who you guys were attracted to growing up in the NHL world? Was it like Brett Hall and the boys or what?

Speaker 2 My dad came a little bit later than Hully.

Speaker 2 My dad came. We were both born in Arizona when he played for the Coyotes.
And then I think I was four. Brady was two, maybe.
I don't know the exact when we moved to St. Louis.

Speaker 2 Instantly got hooked on the blues and the players on that team.

Speaker 2 But it's funny, like

Speaker 2 as we got older, because my dad played till he was 39. So we were, you know, more than old enough to remember and watch and love the game and love

Speaker 2 some of the teammates and other guys across the league. Like at one point later on in his career, like our dad's just our dad.
Like he's not an NHL player.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 He's not cool.

Speaker 1 The cool guys are Sidney Crosby and Patrick Kane with those guys.

Speaker 2 So as much as we were Blues fans, our idols and guys we wanted to be like were Sidney Crosby, Patrick Kane, some of those young studs at the time that now we get to play against. So it's so surreal.

Speaker 2 But our dad

Speaker 2 is the best. And looking back, what he did for us is he kind of ingrained the love for hockey organically.

Speaker 2 him bringing us to the rink all the time. Like there were no rules from the coach or the GM like my boys are coming to the rink.
They're going to skate before. They're going to hang out in the room.

Speaker 2 And luckily, they're, you know, everybody was really cool with it and allowed it.

Speaker 1 That's awesome, man. That's so cool.

Speaker 2 So I think, and Brie and I both played in the NHL when we were 18.

Speaker 2 And I think what a lot of guys have trouble with, maybe out of the gates, is what it's like coming into a room full of, you know, NHL guys at that age. And maybe the lights might be too bright.

Speaker 2 But, you know, we grew up in the rink, you know, with my dad bringing us and being around the guys, being around the trainers, you know, treating them,

Speaker 2 as good as you can and

Speaker 2 just being around older guys.

Speaker 2 And so I think that him doing that really allowed us to have success right away and allowed us to make the NHL at that age. So a lot of credit goes to that.

Speaker 2 But growing up, I don't know, Brady, like some of the best memories for us is just being around the room with the guys and shooting the shit and skating with them before practice.

Speaker 2 I mean, it's memories that I've always thought about. I can't believe that we were lucky enough to be able to do that.

Speaker 1 Heck, we were just talking about your family watching you guys brawl. Did you guys ever see dad

Speaker 1 throw the hands on the ice? Oh, yeah. What was that like, man?

Speaker 3 A couple of times. Oh, it was, it was, we were just, oh, dad, you got, you got beat up last night.

Speaker 1 Like, come on.

Speaker 3 No, I knew, I remember like just watching because we were so close to the action and it was just like, just so fired up.

Speaker 3 We'd probably try to emulate it in the, like the room after, like, oh, this is how like he did it. We'd just start going.

Speaker 3 And I remember like there's guys just egging us on and we were just going toe to toe in the locker room

Speaker 2 i remember i remember once we were in the room we were playing like we would just like you know play fight somebody would be like all right you guys should fight we drop the gloves you know fight whatever but i remember one time it was after the game uh we're in the family lounge and we're playing mini sticks with a bunch of kids and i just run brady

Speaker 2 and i just run brady in the numbers you know right from right cross check to the back or right to the couch

Speaker 2 so as the uh the blues doctors and training staff had an, you know, an easy night, nobody got hurt. So they're leaving the rink.

Speaker 2 And my dad calls back and the team doctor comes, grabs Brady and Brady had to get stitches.

Speaker 1 That's

Speaker 2 those are some of the.

Speaker 1 You gotta love it, baby.

Speaker 2 Those are some of the shenanigans that we were up to at the rink. It was, that's just, it was a blast.

Speaker 1 Dude, mini sticks is such a freaking, and that's all we used to do. When Travis was playing, like all the brothers, we'd be playing mini sticks in where they used to store the nets, right?

Speaker 1 But the nets would go out on the ice, and then we go into that cage and we play mini sticks with each other. Our dad actually set up a mini stink or mini stick arena in our basement.
He put plywood.

Speaker 1 It wasn't anything special. He just puts...
No, at the time it was special.

Speaker 1 It'd be full contact mini sticks down there. That shit was epic.
You already know. Mini sticks is a classic.
How much advice did Pop give you guys as far? And is he still giving you advice?

Speaker 1 As far as like being a hockey player and navigating your careers.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he talks to us after every game. And

Speaker 3 the thing that he said, honestly, since we can remember Matthew, and even to this day, is there's two things, just

Speaker 3 be a good teammate and just work your ass off. And those are the only two things that you could control.
And

Speaker 3 just if you do that every single day, and that goes to the next guy, and that goes to the next guy, and that's how you

Speaker 3 become a winning team. And for Matthew, a Stanley Cup team.

Speaker 3 And of course, it was Matthew's been so new to Florida, but I think just that mindset and that advice that he's brought in just was a breath of fresh air for that team.

Speaker 3 And the reason why they're successful in Stanley Cup champs is because of Matthew and that mindset.

Speaker 3 So I think it just, you know, Big Walt, he's got a lot of advice, but those two, he's always said right from a young age.

Speaker 1 That's awesome. He sounds like a fucking man.

Speaker 1 You guys are making your dad sound like a fucking OG. I love it.

Speaker 1 How cool was it to get him to drink out of the Stanley Cup, man? Oh, was that like, that had to be one of the most proud moments ever, dude?

Speaker 3 We got some stories. I know he's got one more story.

Speaker 2 It was so special. Like he worked his ass off for 19 years and came close, but ultimately didn't get to finish the job.

Speaker 2 So to me, one of the coolest parts of that day, I'm sure Brady might remember it a little bit, but I remember it vividly exactly what was going on. So we're obviously up 3-0.
We blow a 3-0 lead.

Speaker 2 We're going to game seven.

Speaker 2 And for some reason, like this day was just, it was just a calmer day. Like it was just, I don't know why it probably shouldn't have been, but it just felt better.

Speaker 2 And I'm going to my car to drive to the rink. And Brady and my dad walk me out.
Don't say anything. Just walk me to the car.
And I thought that was just like a,

Speaker 2 all right, they got my back, you know, no matter what happens, but. You know, this is, this is important.
And as I'm driving out, I just like, you know,

Speaker 2 I just clues in with me. I'm like, I'm not only playing for, you know, myself and my teammates, but like, I'm playing for my family that have sacrificed absolutely everything for me.

Speaker 2 My dad has come so close. You know, Brady has put in so much work and we'll get there one day.
But like, I'm playing for my whole family and everybody that's got me to this point.

Speaker 2 So that was like a super cool moment. And then the next coolest was after that game when we're on the ice when I finally got to hug them all.

Speaker 2 And I don't know how, but the cup got into my hands, like when all the families were out there and just me handing it to my dad uh, that first time was a feeling that I'll I'll never be able to really explain how I, you know, how unbelievable it was.

Speaker 2 And then, and then all the shenanigans in the locker room after it was just you know, the cherry on top. But that

Speaker 2 was such an incredible day and one of the most amazing days of my life. And I was so happy I got to share it with you know, my brother, you know, my sister, my parents, all the family.

Speaker 2 Um, it was really cool.

Speaker 1 That's so cool. Hell yeah, hell yeah.
We uh, we talk about how the Stanley Cup is the coolest of all the

Speaker 1 trophies, man. It's not the tradition where each player gets a chance to, you know, have a day with them.
And I just think it's where the fuck did this guy just go,

Speaker 1 dude, Balouse out here holling. Yeah, so did you take it back home with you? Or what was the, did you, did you get a day with it or a couple days? How did it work with you after you won it?

Speaker 2 Yeah, so it was all like so fast. I remember we won.

Speaker 2 I had like went to the Cape, Cape Cod to party for 4th of July, then went out in Tahoe, saw you guys there.

Speaker 2 Then right after Tahoe, like I had to race back to St. Louis because I got it like a couple of days later.
So it all happened so fast, but I was the lucky one. I got it for a day and a half.

Speaker 2 So I got to hit up everything I wanted to

Speaker 2 in St. Louis.
I had, you know, an unreal party. people flying in from all over the country, family from everywhere, friends came back in town.

Speaker 2 It was so cool.

Speaker 2 But the two things that I really, really wanted to do when I had Day with the Cup is one, I really wanted to bring it to the Children's Hospital, who it's been such a big, you know, important

Speaker 2 charity in our family's life going back to my dad, giving back and working with them throughout his career. And then Brady and I doing stuff in our respective cities.

Speaker 2 So that was like number one, wanted to take it there.

Speaker 1 That's awesome, man. Love that.
Love that.

Speaker 2 And then two, like, I just really wanted like a few hours at some point of the day where it was just my family and I and just staring at the cup and just just hanging out and like hearing the cup stories from the, you know, from the cupkeeper.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know, hearing, you know, what was the craziest year, craziest party? What did this guy do with it? You know, where'd this guy take it?

Speaker 2 And, and just hearing all the incredible things that this big silver trophy has been through. And now it's in my house and I get to hold it and lift it whenever I want.
Like it was so surreal.

Speaker 2 And I know it was just so special for me to have the support of all my family throughout the whole year.

Speaker 2 But that day in the middle of summer, when it started to, you know, die down a little bit, wasn't truly an incredible day. And,

Speaker 2 you know, I can't wait to try to compete for it again.

Speaker 3 Well, you got into some trouble at the start with the cupkeeper, bringing in pretty good ocean.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, no, they weren't happy.

Speaker 1 What do you got to do to get in trouble with that guy?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I didn't know he could either.

Speaker 2 But I guess after, you know, after we won zero hours of sleep about

Speaker 2 40 beers later, I took it into the ocean. And yeah, I guess it doesn't deal well with saltwater, which it makes sense now.

Speaker 1 But I didn't know the rules. I mean, I'm just

Speaker 2 if we just won, we just won the thing 12 hours earlier.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't think about any rules.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but they weren't too thrilled with me. But

Speaker 2 yeah, it's all good.

Speaker 1 We're good now.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That thing was actually in this basement that i'm in right now i got to see it firsthand i couldn't

Speaker 1 can't drink out of it unless you won it or are with somebody who's won it so but i did get to look at it which it's even more of a spectacle in person this fucking

Speaker 1 chabroni so congratulations for winning that we did

Speaker 1 And we did have another, speaking of cups, we did have another cup situation this offseason. You brought up Tahoe.
We got to see Travis's flip cup skills.

Speaker 1 Were you impressed with Travis's flip-cup skills? or

Speaker 1 he's a little bit of a flanker, you got to be careful with him?

Speaker 2 I remember it was the first time I played the drinking game baseball.

Speaker 1 And that was,

Speaker 2 I've told the story because,

Speaker 2 you know, I don't know

Speaker 2 one of the guys that we were playing with, I know it was four on four. I know our team was

Speaker 2 Travis,

Speaker 2 Miles, Teller, Chase Crawford, and myself. Yes.

Speaker 2 It was

Speaker 2 BG,

Speaker 1 Blake Griffin.

Speaker 2 Yep.

Speaker 1 The Mids,

Speaker 2 Osh, and oh, and Baker. Yeah.
So it was a, it was kind of an iconic statement.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And somebody's somebody's family member, I don't know who, but took a picture of it or something. I just remember, I mean, Trav was like, showhey.
He was hitting home runs and stealing bases.

Speaker 1 He was the MVP.

Speaker 1 I was in.

Speaker 3 That sounds like you're just hitting singles, hey?

Speaker 1 I was hitting singles.

Speaker 1 Camaraderie.

Speaker 1 On base percentage. That's what it's all about.
On base percentage.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 that was a really fun.

Speaker 2 I mean, you guys know how fun that week was. And I'm looking forward to this year again.

Speaker 1 Brady, are you going to make it out to Tyler this year?

Speaker 3 I'll take a caddy job at this point.

Speaker 3 I don't have to have the stress of shanking and hitting people and testing beers and heading out.

Speaker 1 It happens.

Speaker 1 If you make it out this year, Brady,

Speaker 1 We got to get a mini sticks drinking game figured out. We got to figure out some game revolving mini sticks and beer.
I'm in on that.

Speaker 1 I remember. I remember Osh, man.
Osh, once we went to Flip Cup, I started kind of getting a little like bending the rules a little bit. Dude, he was not having it.

Speaker 1 I was like, I'm like, I'm one more cheating, like one more time cheating away from just getting fucking socked by my guy right here, man.

Speaker 1 We're about to have a good old-fashioned hockey fight right here. Love TJ's demand, though, man.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, that was a fun, fun night for sure.

Speaker 1 We got to wrap up. We're going to ask a few.
We got to ask. You don't have to answer.
That's the name of this segment. So we're going to ask questions.
You don't have to answer them.

Speaker 1 You can tell us the fuck off, whatever you want, but we are going to ask these questions. All right, you ready? Perfect.
We got to ask is brought to you by Metos Gum.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 2 Brady, you could just answer first each time, Metos.

Speaker 1 There we go. All right.
Who was the favorite growing up?

Speaker 3 Matthew.

Speaker 1 Matthew, oldest?

Speaker 2 I don't think so. I think,

Speaker 2 no,

Speaker 2 let's say Taryn. Let's go with the easy answer.

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 1 She's the only

Speaker 2 girl in the family, so she's the favorite.

Speaker 1 All right. Do you guys have a welcome to the NHL moment? We talk about this with football guys any moment that like it's like oh wow I'm in a new ease now yeah

Speaker 3 I know for me, I was standing next to Alex Ovechkin and I was like,

Speaker 3 oh my God.

Speaker 3 What is going going on right now? And I think he had like two goals that night. I'm like, I was dashed too.
I'm like, all right, that's my welcome to you.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go work on some stuff.

Speaker 2 That's a good one. I think mine was just first Sunny Chill game was in the new Edmonton rank.
And they did like a passing of a torch moment right before we went on the ice where.

Speaker 2 Gretzky and Messier were on the ice just like with the puck and they left it. And then McDavid came flying off the bench and like took the puck in and scored and the building erupted.
I'm like,

Speaker 1 I can't be here right now.

Speaker 1 Holy fuck.

Speaker 2 I'm like, there's no way I'm in the right place right now.

Speaker 2 That was so that was mine. But also, I played Ovechkin a few weeks after, and same story as Brady.
He's like, Welcome to the NHL kid. And I'm like,

Speaker 1 How does he?

Speaker 2 And he's a big man, too. So that was that was cool.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Ovechkin's the man. If you

Speaker 1 guys drop gloves gloves on the ice

Speaker 1 between you

Speaker 1 two, or maybe even you and your dad, who's winning out of you three?

Speaker 2 Brady, I'll save you a trouble.

Speaker 1 I'll answer this for you.

Speaker 2 I don't need you to stuff me a lock with your answer.

Speaker 2 I would go Brady, my dad, me.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 One, two, three. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, Brady. Who's taking it? You or your dad?

Speaker 3 I don't know. That would be.

Speaker 1 I feel like there's like a mental, there's a mental advantage that dad has in that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Oh, he definitely has me on that aspect.

Speaker 1 He'll probably walk.

Speaker 3 I'll go with him.

Speaker 1 No, chance, Brady. I got you.
I got you. You don't have to be nice.
I got you in that.

Speaker 3 Hey, thanks, bro.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 What's the more physical sport? Hockey or football?

Speaker 3 I mean, Football because you get hit every single play. Like hockey, there's shifts where you might not get hit and might just be skating around, but football, it's every single play.

Speaker 1 I will say, though, the hardest I still have ever been hit is on the ice and multiple times.

Speaker 1 Like when you get a hospital pass and you're just going across the middle and you get hit open ice, not ready for it, there is nothing that hurts. Now I didn't play receiver.

Speaker 1 Travis has been hit going over the middle. It's got to be similar to that.

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 3 like a slant route for me.

Speaker 1 I'm like, yeah, I don't know if I want to get hit down the middle.

Speaker 1 That ice is hard. I mean, it's like concrete.
It is. I don't know.
What do you think, Trav? You've had both. You've had a hospital pass and been hit on a route like that.
I didn't play.

Speaker 1 The hardest I've ever been hit on the ice is like against you in practice.

Speaker 1 It was just,

Speaker 1 I was, I was like six, one, six, two on skates in eighth grade. Like I was always the biggest kid, so there was nobody really like throwing me around yet.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I've had my fair share share of

Speaker 1 knockout blows uh going over the middle for sure yeah i don't know i wouldn't know if the kelceys and the kachucks switch sports who's better at the other sport dude for sure you guys at hobbies there's no chance you need to watch me try and skate it's been a long time

Speaker 2 you guys have the size you guys have the size and the intimidation brady and i would just be like you guys are 6'2 and 6'4 what do you mean you guys are big dudes yeah we'd be We'd be very slow compared to everybody.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 What position would you guys play?

Speaker 1 Let me ask you that. What position do you guys think you would play?

Speaker 2 Brady's probably built for... You've got a little tight end in you, Brady, I think.
Tight end DN. See that? Maybe.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 2 I think I'm linebacker.

Speaker 1 Throw that down.

Speaker 1 Just

Speaker 1 let them know. Yeah, probably middle linebacker.
All heart, baby. All heart.

Speaker 2 A middle linebacker that, you know, wants some goal-line offensive plays for a touchdown.

Speaker 1 There we go.

Speaker 1 Give me a volume.

Speaker 1 Who talks the best, uh, best shit on the ice, man?

Speaker 3 I mean, Matthew. I know he's tripped me in a game before.

Speaker 1 I'm like, oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Hey, I'm your brother.

Speaker 3 You just rattled me.

Speaker 1 So I don't, I'm good with him.

Speaker 3 Like, in Calgary, when you trip me, like, go, go hop on the bike, like, in between periods. I'm like, my conditioning that bad?

Speaker 1 I just was like,

Speaker 3 I guess I am really struggling out here.

Speaker 2 I just know Brady, I actually do remember, I just know that that would actually affect him, and I can't believe it did.

Speaker 1 This is great.

Speaker 2 Yeah, there's,

Speaker 2 it's surprising. Like, there's not much chirping in the NHL anymore.
It's just, it's kind of like a lost art. I mean, people just don't really do it that much.
I think the intimidation factor is

Speaker 2 more of the chirp chirp itself than the actual words. So

Speaker 2 I think Brady's pretty good at that as well.

Speaker 1 Is there a hockey slang that people should use more?

Speaker 1 I feel like if you're around hockey players enough, you kind of hear like the natural, like, I don't know, like slang and just like lingo that you guys use on the ice.

Speaker 1 And it's like, I don't know, it's so fun to be around, especially when you guys are competing. I don't know.
I just, I feel like there's definitely something like that.

Speaker 1 I didn't know if you guys had any fun shit for us.

Speaker 3 No, I mean, the only thing I could think of is like, I feel like all we say is like beauty and fella, and like, oh, yeah, like little words like that.

Speaker 1 Like, just like, yeah,

Speaker 1 what a beauty.

Speaker 3 You're such a beauty. And

Speaker 3 that's really all I can like.

Speaker 2 It's so funny, though. Like, I feel like when you say that to people, though, sometimes it could be a chirp.
It's like, oh, Brady, you're a beauty. Like, you're,

Speaker 2 you know, like, it's, it's used both ways.

Speaker 2 That's probably our favorite one because it can mean so many different

Speaker 1 ways, I guess. It That makes sense.

Speaker 1 For sure. You're such a

Speaker 1 last one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're a fucking beaut. I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 We have a stat here for through the first 400 games, you guys lined up with your dad.

Speaker 1 And the penalty minutes are fucking off the charts. Through 400 games, Brady, you're at 588, which is fucking ridiculous.
Matthew, you're at 395, but your dad is at a staggering 1,000.

Speaker 1 I mean, he played for 19 seasons.

Speaker 1 This is through 400 games.

Speaker 3 How many 10-minute misconducts did he get?

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 I thought I had a lot. At the end of the game, I'm telling Refs, all right, give me a 10.
I'm out of here.

Speaker 1 But he must have done it every other game.

Speaker 2 Beat the traffic, hope.

Speaker 1 Do you guys think you'll ever catch dad by the end of your careers?

Speaker 3 I mean, he's got 2,000, I think, in total. I don't know.

Speaker 3 I don't know. I mean, to get into a thousand is a win, but

Speaker 3 2,000 is a tough one to beat.

Speaker 2 That's crazy. Oh, man.

Speaker 2 I think my dad's most impressive stat is he scored 50 goals, which is insane. He scored it twice in a season.
But one of the years, he had 200 penalty minutes with it.

Speaker 2 So it's like, it's like, damn, dad, like. You put that number at 100.
Like, you might have scored 60.

Speaker 1 You would have stayed on the fucking ice. He was your scorner Warner in the box.

Speaker 3 He was like, there's no other option that shows.

Speaker 2 He's like, fuck, I wasn't thinking of that.

Speaker 1 That's my kind of player right there. That's my kind of player.

Speaker 1 Jason notoriously leads, you know, he still has the record for Ohio State hockey for penalty minutes. For Cleveland Heights High School.

Speaker 1 Nope. Can't tell me any different, Jason.
Can't tell until you prove that stat wrong. You led the state.
All right, fair enough. What's the greatest hockey movie of all time?

Speaker 3 Miracle.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Dude.
It's hard to talk about.

Speaker 3 we watched it before the canada game too the

Speaker 3 in in uh the first one we had like six of us in like a it was almost like we're back to like youth hockey yeah six guys in my hand in a room just watching miracle and it was so awesome dude we love that movie growing up man my one of my favorites also is sneaky i know i well you're right but one of my sneaky favorites is uh mystery Alaska.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Dude, that one, that one's a sneaky, like, dude, I will, I gotta watch that. I haven't seen that one in forever, but that was one of my favorites.
That was a great one. I'm still a slap shot.

Speaker 1 I'm a slap shot.

Speaker 2 Did you guys? Oh, so funny.

Speaker 1 Did you guys

Speaker 2 did you guys, did you guys grow up skate on the outdoor rink ever? Like, did you guys?

Speaker 1 Never, never skate with us.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so, like, Mystery Alaska is like, it's like a myth to us.

Speaker 1 It was like a one, yeah, Wonder World, yeah.

Speaker 2 But yeah, no, it's, that's a funny one.

Speaker 2 Everyone was calling Brady and I, you know, comparing us to the Hanson brothers.

Speaker 3 We were putting our faces on their bodies. I thought it was hilarious.

Speaker 2 I don't know if we were that crazy, but maybe we were a little bit.

Speaker 1 Dude, those dudes were batshit crazy, man.

Speaker 1 So fucking.

Speaker 2 The best is when the ref comes up to them during the anthem and basically saying no antics tonight.

Speaker 3 They're on your body nose.

Speaker 1 All screwed up already.

Speaker 2 Hilarious.

Speaker 1 Once again, we got to ask is brought to you by Mentos Gum. Well, boys, that does it for us, man.
We got nothing for you guys. We got nothing else for you guys.

Speaker 1 I mean, man, can't thank you enough representing the USA, representing the good brothers of America

Speaker 1 in sports, man.

Speaker 1 You guys, you guys make us,

Speaker 1 you know, it was so fun watching you guys and still watching you guys, you know, chase after the cup this year, man. But it's so cool seeing, you know, the

Speaker 1 family dynamic before the

Speaker 1 championship of the Four Nations game with your dad, your mom, and you two sitting down.

Speaker 1 It just, it was so cool for me to relate knowing that uh i had something similar with jason going into uh the super bowl which was you know as close as we ever got on the field so um it was it's just awesome you guys do it the right way you can tell you guys this family is amazing and so happy for you guys man good luck chasing the cup this year and appreciate you guys coming on man thanks a lot boys yeah thank you for having us

Speaker 1 two beauties two beauties right here

Speaker 1 baby

Speaker 1 you guys are you guys are beauties in the good way not the bad way

Speaker 2 we'll see you guys guys this summer. All right.

Speaker 1 You know what's good?

Speaker 1 What a pair of good brothers right there, bro. Absolutely.
Dude, I might actually put on a plaque, you know, just be a good teammate and work hard. Dude, seriously.

Speaker 1 That's what it's about.

Speaker 1 And that's what I love about hockey, man. I love the mentality of those guys.
Every single one of them is so selfless, man. They represent a league and a sport that just has a great spirit to it.

Speaker 1 Couldn't be more proud of Team USA.

Speaker 1 Even though they didn't pull it out, they fought hard.

Speaker 1 I mean, listen, they worked hard and they represented the country well and they were great teammates. Here we go.
Bam. I'm fucking with that.
You already know, man. And I don't know why, man.

Speaker 1 I just want to fucking have a fucking few more beers with my guy, Matthew, man. Get Brady down there to Tyho.
That shit would fucking be so cool. What's a good game with mini sticks?

Speaker 1 You remember how we used to play hockey where you would

Speaker 1 shot the quarter into the can? Dude, yeah. We should just play that game with mini sticks.
Mini sticks, get some mini sticks. That shit would get so dangerous.

Speaker 1 And then get quarters, and then you just slap the quarter at the can. If you hit the can, you got to drink.
Yeah, I think this is an awesome game. I'm with it.
We can make it up. I don't give a shit.

Speaker 1 I got time.

Speaker 1 There's something about the world of hockey that I just feel like it's a hidden gem, man. We got to get, we got to get some more of the greats on here, man.
What if we get

Speaker 1 the great one on here? Yeah, I mean, obviously, it will take the best hockey player of all time. I'll tell you.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Man, some absolute legends. That was one thing I was like always so jealous of you being in Philly.
Of what, the Flyers? Dude, just having being able to go and watch the Flyers,

Speaker 1 even going down to Xfinity the year we did and watching the game down there, that was so much fucking fun, man. I mean, that was one of the few years, unfortunately, that they made the playoffs.

Speaker 1 I mean, and I love Claude Giroux. And I was actually just talking with Scott Hartnell, who's back in the area about getting out on the ice because it's been a long time.

Speaker 1 I want to start getting the girls out on the ice. But

Speaker 1 yeah, I am all in on interviewing hockey guys.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and Gretzky, he is hockey. He's the greatest.

Speaker 1 All right. Perfect.
Well, thank you to Matthew and Brady Kachuck. You guys are awesome.
Best of luck the rest of the year. Should we bring a hockey team to Kansas City? Dude, what? Fuck yes.

Speaker 1 I've been fucking on that train for a while. I don't know if Kansas City loves it as much as I do.

Speaker 1 We got a minor league team. Dude, just have you and Pat Mahomes be a part of the team.
I mean, Pat's already doing the women's soccer team, so you guys can just do a hockey team as well.

Speaker 1 Dude, people will show up. We have a minor league hockey team, the Casey Mavericks.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We need an NHL team.
I hear you, dude. What are we calling it?

Speaker 1 The Kansas City.

Speaker 1 What's a good Kansas City? So what's the minor league team called? Mavericks. The Mavericks? Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's not bad. It's pretty good.
I know a basketball team, though.

Speaker 1 Kansas City.

Speaker 1 What's a really specific Kansas City? I mean, there's obviously barbecue, but there's got to be something else. What is Kansas City?

Speaker 1 Kansas City cattle.

Speaker 1 Dude. And you just got to.
The Kansas City Bulls.

Speaker 1 Dude. Kansas City Beeves.
Steer. Kansas City.

Speaker 1 Oh, Steer.

Speaker 1 The Beef is dope. That's a great one.
Kansas City Beef? Kansas City beef.

Speaker 1 That's actually fucking great. Do you know, let me ask you this.
What do you guys refer to

Speaker 1 when there's like a football slang for offensive linemen out in space, do you know what that's called? Like you see a big fat guy out there in space can't really run very well.

Speaker 1 It's like, oh man, that guy looks like a cow on ice. You've never heard that phrase? Never in my life have I ever heard that.
Dude, that's maybe that's something specific to the O-line room.

Speaker 1 But yeah, cows on ice. It's like on screens, you see a bunch of big guys out there.
They can't really move around, kind of look like they're sliding around a little bit.

Speaker 1 Cows on ice is what we call them.

Speaker 2 God damn.

Speaker 1 Now I want to see what a cow on ice looks like. Cows on ice.

Speaker 1 Dude, I'm not going to lie. If you need a minority investor, I'll invest in the KC beef.
That's actually fucking gold. You think just Pat like hockey? Pat's here for any competitive sport.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's here for it all. I don't know if he's ever been to a game, but

Speaker 1 he definitely got fired up for the Four Nations. That's for sure.
I mean, who did? Who's watching that one? Yeah. All right now.
Let's get some no-dumb questions.

Speaker 1 No-dumb questions is brought to you by Intuit TurboTax. Now, this is taxes.
All right, from at clo underscore TV. No, no question from down under here.

Speaker 1 Does Jay Skellsley think that this bee, a mascot for an insurance company, has any resemblance to him? This is a very important matter. We would love to see Trav.

Speaker 1 Trev get some love? Trav get some love?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think that thing looks just like me. I mean, you're not much of a Chucks guy, but yeah, I mean, that's pretty spot on to you.
Same kind of like little like

Speaker 1 little button nose and

Speaker 1 where it really makes sense. Look at the eyebrows.
Yeah, the eyebrows are everything. That's a dead giveaway.
This thing fucking. The eyebrows and the wrinkles on the forehead are a dead giveaway.

Speaker 1 They saw you and saw marketing. I'm telling you, there's something about me that people like to take my likeness with masks.
Gritty, I will take this to my grave.

Speaker 1 Gritty was started the year after the parade. That thing looks fucking just like me.
If you were to mascify Jason Kelsey, you would be like. What the fuck is Gritty?

Speaker 1 It's the Flyers mascot. And now this thing, look at the hair.
That's Ed Kelsey hair right there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And that's what jason kelse ed kelik looks like too i know this is i mean as of right now bow bo allen and i are thinking about doing a little fitness challenge lilo zempic well i might do that tell me that thing is not my likeness shut the up dude they stole it look at those eyebrows it looks nothing like you dude you mean to tell me after the parade the flyers come out just so happen to come out with a mascot that looks like that it looks nothing like you your beard isn't like that.

Speaker 1 Your eyebrows are aggressive, but they're not that. They'll never admit it.
This thing is just, they fucking modeled this thing after me. You're ridiculous.
Shout out to Trev, though. Trev to be.

Speaker 1 Hopefully his insurance company is fucking killing it.

Speaker 1 All right. Next up question from at JDubbs8397.
Answer this question.

Speaker 1 When making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, do you put them on separate pieces or spread them together? I am not a psychopath.

Speaker 1 I put the jelly on one side and the peanut butter on the other side and then put them together.

Speaker 1 Nobody in their right fucking mind spreads peanut butter and jelly on one slice and then puts a

Speaker 1 that's just not how it's real.

Speaker 1 Nobody fucking does that. Is that real? Nobody does that.
There's no way anybody does that. Why would you put the the jelly on the peanut do you put so do you put the peanut butter on the jelly?

Speaker 1 You'd have to go jelly on peanut butter, right? No, yeah, you'd have to go you have to do a layer of peanut butter and then the jelly. I don't know if you're to do that, but that doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 You don't understand. You wouldn't get a smooth, like easy spread.

Speaker 3 It would be making your job harder.

Speaker 1 It feels like there's more control and it's easier to determine how much is going on if it's done on different pieces of bread.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's something that sounds really off about putting the peanut butter and the jelly on the same side. I mean, I guess that's kind of that's how I build a sandwich.
Like if I'm building like

Speaker 1 ham,

Speaker 1 lettuce, tomato, cheese, like all that would be piled on top of the same thing. But then I put the mayonnaise on the bread on the opposite side.
But you have to spread.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you have to, whatever you have to spread, it has to go on like a hard

Speaker 1 even surface. Yeah.
I think that's right. Yeah.
Because it's just easier to spread it. You're not like contaminating the layers.
Yeah. You're not fucking up your masterpiece.

Speaker 1 I hate a sloppy sandwich, man.

Speaker 1 I like my shit nice and fucking

Speaker 1 perfect. don't know i like a sloppy nice little sloppy cheesesteak you get cheese all over your face

Speaker 1 god that's good you like that with whiz uh i like it with american but i will eat it with whiz it's actually not bad if you try it nacho cheese and bread is ridiculous i'm not a big whiz cheese whiz person but whiz on a cheesesteak isn't bad i've said it before definitely prefer american dude this is another thing i want to figure out how to make the best burger there's something about cheeseburgers that i just love come on over i'll teach you.

Speaker 1 I want Andy to teach me. It's who I want to teach me.

Speaker 1 I want Andy Reed to show me the spread. He's got to know the best cheeseburger he's ever had.
Yeah, I'm with you. Any type of spread goes right on top of the bread.
On bread only, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Anytime you got to spread something, you put it on the bread. Yeah.
If you're going to spread, put it on the bread. There we go.
It's a simple rule and easy to follow.

Speaker 1 And that does it for No Dumb Questions brought to you by Intuit TurboTags. You want to get into a little bit of the New Heights offseason?

Speaker 1 Tell the 92%ers what we got coming up, or like maybe some of the things that

Speaker 1 we have in store or thinking about doing? Do we have anything in store? No, we don't. So let's just create it right here.
Just speak things into existence.

Speaker 1 What would be fun is going up to Green Bay, going up to Green Bay for the draft, maybe? That'd be fun. That might be a good time.
Get a few of the draftees, maybe, that are

Speaker 1 see who's up there.

Speaker 1 I'm sure there'll be a few familiar faces from the legendary Green Bay Packers that we could find a way to get a hold of. I'd be in on that.
Outside of that, I mean, we said the great one.

Speaker 1 It would be great to get the great one on here.

Speaker 1 Maybe even all the great ones. I mean, Jordan.

Speaker 1 I mean, dude. Oh, Tom Brady, maybe.
Gosh, that'd be fun to talk to. Yes, I will talk to all these people.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Talk to Tom about how he dealt with not winning Super Bowls.

Speaker 1 Fuck.

Speaker 1 multiple super bowls yeah we'll also get some more brothers we've talked about the the watt brothers before i still think we need to get on the ice with the watt brothers especially after talking to the kachucks we need to get on the ice with jj and tj and then do a podcast on the ice yeah i'm with that

Speaker 1 i think they'd be in too uh i know i know t uh i know jj would be in yeah he's been skating a bunch yeah no we need to we need to kind of get get our bearings before we go out there we can't go out there looking like a bunch of jamokes what about some golf stuff?

Speaker 1 We did Tahoe last year. We both like golf.
Maybe get Tiger. I mean, Tiger's obviously the funnest name that we could think of.
Give my guy Bryson. Give my guy

Speaker 1 old Brooksy Kepka. There we go.
There we go. I know you and John Rock.
Absolutely dogs. Ever since you destroyed Robin.

Speaker 1 I don't even want to.

Speaker 1 I love John.

Speaker 1 John's a great guy. I just, I can't look him in the eyes.
I feel like ashamed every time.

Speaker 1 Hey, John. You didn't tell anybody about that, did you?

Speaker 1 Here's the events that I want to do with you. I want to do draft would be great to do with you

Speaker 1 if we're up for it. I want to do the derby with Travis Kelsey this year.
Now that you are officially a horse owner, I want to do the derby with Travis Kelsey. Come on, I'll show you the reins.

Speaker 1 All right. Perfect.
Perfect.

Speaker 1 That it is.

Speaker 1 I learned from the best. The Zoldens.
The Zoldens are the best. What other events? Stanley Cup? I mean, I'm in on doing the Cup, the, you know, the Larry O'Brien show.
If we can go to NBA, NHL.

Speaker 1 We can do all this we can do all this well then what are we talking so let's just are we just gonna do every event we can't do every everybody always tells me i'm overexposed i can't do everything

Speaker 1 well what else are you doing right now i'm kind of like leaving it wide open because everybody keeps telling me to go away so i'm just going away for a little bit yeah this is i feel the same way no we uh we will not go away and we will continue to do this We will force you to like us.

Speaker 1 How about this? What about obscure sports? Because you and I both love obscure things. All right.
What's obscure, though? Would you want to go hit the

Speaker 1 horseshoe championship in Topeka, Kansas? I've been there, done that.

Speaker 1 First of all, yes. I do want to do that.

Speaker 1 Second of all, we've talked about curling. I ran to Jared Allen down in

Speaker 1 New Orleans after he just got inducted into the Hall of Fame. Nice.
He has a curling establishment in Nashville. That'd be fun to go visit.
I'd fuck around with that.

Speaker 1 Try your hand curling, then maybe talk to one of the best defensive ends of all time. I'm down to do some interactive stuff, like going

Speaker 1 hobby horsing. We got to comment a hobby horsing tournament.
I'm not doing that.

Speaker 1 That's where I draw the line. Come on, Trev.
That's where I draw the line. I'm not going to sit here and make fun of kids, Jason.

Speaker 1 How else do you comment hobby horsing?

Speaker 1 How about this? Darts tournament. 180.

Speaker 1 Come on now. I am so down.
I'm so down. You want to go catch some soccer or some international football? Some of the old.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'll go watch some soccer.

Speaker 1 Catch a premiere game or like Wrexham or Burnley. Burnley?

Speaker 1 Check out J.J. Watts.

Speaker 1 From everything I've seen and heard on Wrexham, I am in. Burnley, I'm in.

Speaker 1 I'm in on all this. Yes.
The key is finding the time. Sounds like we're in on everything.

Speaker 1 92%ers. Why don't you guys? Help us narrow this down? What do you think we would be good at? Yeah, we want to do stuff for you guys and what interests you guys over the summer.

Speaker 1 So, out of everything we said, or even some stuff that we haven't mentioned yet that you think would be fun for us to go and

Speaker 1 see or check out or give the inside scoop for you guys, just let us know. Please send us ideas.
All right, that wraps up another episode of New Heights.

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Fun episode again.

Speaker 1 Do you listen to sad music when you're depressed or do you listen to happy music? Jason, the only way you can find yourself in the light is to find yourself in the dark first. Right.

Speaker 1 I listen to music that is very telling of my mood, yes. I go to like sad country songs.
Yeah, I just listen to Taylor's music. She has something for everything.
That's fair. That's a good point.

Speaker 1 You, no matter what mood, you can find some Taylor music. Yeah.
And How the Eagles Broke My Heart. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No matter how bad I'm feeling, there's a country guy that's singing about it and feeling way worse than me. And that gives me joy a lot of the times.

Speaker 1 Nice. We're gonna bring it full circle.
All right.